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16012881 No.16012881 [Reply] [Original]

If the IQ gap is purely environmental then where are the flood of studies controlling for these factors that show the gap disappearing? I've never seen a single one

>> No.16012923

We don't need controlled studies when we have access to the state of every single country in real time with the internet. I would argue that the average height of a countriy's buildings is a better and more accurate indicator of IQ dynamics than any shitty study social science retards can come up with. If nigs can't build shit anywhere, it's simply the obvious and unequivocal proof they are genetically retarded. Reality is a better controlled experiment than anything done with fucking twins or in a lab.

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>> No.16013275

>>16013268
That's just some retard's op ed on the article. The gap persists no matter how hard they try to control for socio-economic factors. The idea that that means there's no evidence for a genetic component is nonsense.

>> No.16013317

It’s like 80% heritable and 20% environmental. We’re completely ok with genetics being the reason for differences in every other aspect of life except for intelligence because it makes people uncomfortable and eugenics undertones.

>> No.16013319

>>16013268
>wikipedia

Why do you trust wikipedia on this issue?

>> No.16013320

>>16013319
It's the source on the original image. If you trust the original image then you already trusted Wikipedia.

>> No.16013331

>>16013320
No, you're trusting the study itself. The source is just directing you to the study. Wikipedia actually has an FAQ where they deny the entire field of pyschometrics because it's racist lol.

>> No.16013350

>>16013320
No, the original image is from the actual study.

>> No.16013681

>>16013268
>please don't cancel us, this is "inconclusive"
is this the only way to publish truth now? you can publish the data, but you must add a disclaimer that you are a good boy?

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>> No.16015014

>>16012881
If there is an IQ gap, then we should just get rid of it with genetic engineering.

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>>16012881
Niggleston has an article on this
https://circularreasonin.blogspot.com/2023/01/adoption-studies-and-hereditarian.html

>> No.16015283

>>16012881
Because IQ is genetic, and even more genetically connected than height (as % of heritability when controlling for environmental variance). Think of the smartest people you know in your life, and I’ll bet you half their parents are like, chemical or aerospace engineers with PhDs or something. Of course there are outliers just as two normal height parents can have a freakishly tall kid, but it doesn’t happen often.

>>16013317 Ditto.

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>>16013331
>Wikipedia actually has an FAQ where they deny the entire field of pyschometrics because it's racist lol.

>> No.16016424

>>16012881
If the IQ gap is purely environmental then why can't we raise animals to have human intelligence given the right environment?

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>>16016412
lol that looks just like the guy who edits wikipedia

>> No.16017017

There is environmental impact that can raise or lower IQ to a genetic maximum, this is used to reject genetic maximums for a more maliable definition that focuses on making everyone dumber. Of course if you stop black people from eating lead paint chips and give them a proper diet they'll go from 70 iq to 90, that doesn't mean they'll ever get to 100 or more on a large level.

>> No.16018357

>>16017017
90 is way out of their league no matter what favorable circumstance prevail

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>>16017017

>> No.16018731

>>16017017
you're not going to stop dumb people from doing dumb things, its the nature of the beast.
dumb things are dumb

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>>16015014
what form of genetic engineering are you suggesting? how do you plan to eliminate the inheritable dumb genes?

>> No.16019913

>>16018362
Good movie

>> No.16019950

>>16016424
kitty cats are smarter than some subspecies of humans

>> No.16020278

>>16019913
>muh hollywood goyslop soience fiction fairy tales
protip: they're all garbage marketed to 100iq retards
there is no such thing as mass media thats doesn't have 100iq retards as it's intended audience, if you like any of that drivel you are low iq by definition

>> No.16020328

>>16012881
Ok what’s your solution? Genetic engineering? Redirection of labor? Mass genocide?

>> No.16020461

>>16020328
Segregation would do.

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>>16020328
I am picking genocide because it solves the problem and as a bonus reduces the carbon footprint.

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>>16012881
Since there are no genetic differences between races, any difference in outcome only pertains to the environment, the circumances enjoyed or scorned by respective races, then one would assume that outcomes, crime rate, etc. pertaining to race would be directly proportional to socio-economic status, no? However, this isn't the case at all. Even when we adjust for socio-economic status, the differences in criminality and IQ remain, barely varying. The truth is that we have no reason to believe that there was an equal evolutionary pressure towards intelligence across all facets of humanity. It's not only unlikely, but it's an utterly absurd assertion. I just don't believe it.

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>>16012881
>SAT score is highly correlated with IQ score

>> No.16021406

>>16020478
reducing carbon footprint is bad tho. nature does best with over 1000ppm CO2 in the atmosphere

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>>16020890
the gap is more pronounced at higher income levels because most wealthy negroes got their money from being athletes

>> No.16023884

>>16020875
>N=16632

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>>16019661
Eliminating the inheritable low IQ genetics sounds like antisemitism to me.

>> No.16025720

>>16024523
theres nothing wrong with antisemitism

>> No.16026312

There's 30IQ pts gap between me and my siblings

>> No.16026315

>>16012881
why does the iq drop if you're adopted as white

>> No.16026404

>>16020328
why would it need a solution? Does the gap in height between men and women also require "solution"?

>> No.16026515

>>16020328
hindu caste system was designed for a reason and works. Whites and east asians need to be separated from darkoids to protect their genetic integrity

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>>16026515
>caste system was designed for a reason and works
Please tell me you are joking.

>> No.16026522

>>16026520

----> >>16013207

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>>16026520
we gave it a good run, now it is just time for a divorce, irreconcilable differences and what not. No hard feelings, we just gotta split is all. We have different destines

>> No.16027092

>>16026315
it doesn't
twin studies proved that back in the mid 20th century

>> No.16027386

>>16027092
it dropped from 105 to 101

>> No.16027389

>>16013317
It makes people uncomfortable because it doesn't really make sense with what they see in real life. Genetics won't teach you how to read or drive a car.

>> No.16027653

>>16026525
Did you seriously screenshot your own youtube comment?

>> No.16028300

>>16012881
wheres the bar for not adopted and has two black parents

>> No.16028322

>>16027653
I did. You know why? Because we live in a world chalk of morons and I would rather not have to repeat myself every day of my life telling them the same thing over and over trying to keep them from destroying our society with their stupid ideas

>> No.16028323

>>16028322
chalk *full* of morons

You deserve the least amount of keystrokes out of me as possible needed to educate you

>> No.16028391

>>16012923
>the average height of a countriy's buildings is a better and more accurate indicator of IQ dynamics
what about the distribution of burgerslop restaurants in a country to pump down the dumbfuck throats?

>> No.16028785

>>16028300
its too low to display on that chart

>> No.16028800 [DELETED] 

>>16024523
Israel is full of sandnigger heritage, european jews are higher

>> No.16028803

>>16026315
Two major factors I can think of
>If your parents abandon you they are probably white trash and thus bad genetics
>Being raised by two foster parents is different and can have paychological effects even if you don't know you are adopted, just because the treatment can't really be the exact same

>> No.16028840

>>16020278
it's not a science fiction movie. :/ it's just a horror about family trauma. relax you bozo.

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>>16028800
and the full blooded europeans are yet higher still

>> No.16030819

>>16028840
>t. low IQ goyslop brain

>> No.16031057

>>16028323
Get over yourself.

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>> No.16031559

>>16012923
Pretty much.

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>>16012923
You realize it's not the 18th century anymore, right?

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>>16031666

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>>16031678

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>>16031687
I'll stop here but I hope you get the point

>> No.16031710

>>16031691
You are right, we shouldn't have built those things for them, it's wasted effort

>> No.16032465

>>16031710
>we
go eat a bat or something Chang

>> No.16032653

>>16031710
It is, everyone who lives there is still illiterate and has AIDS

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>>16031710
We shouldn't be shipping them excess grain production either, thats whats responsible for Africa doubling it's population every 25 years

>> No.16033231

>>16031666
All of these things were built with materials and technology created by white people so arent really making any kind of point here. There was zero "African technology" used to build any of this

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>>16012881
>which factors should they "control for", OP?

>>16020890
>muh SAT scores
the SAT is nothing more than a game
even a retarded chatbot can score high enough to get into harvard

>> No.16034387

>>16012881
>If the IQ gap is purely environmental
it isn't, its genetic

>> No.16034473

>>16033397
>the SAT is nothing more than a game even a retarded chatbot can score high enough to get into harvard
Wow you mean a predictive AI with a database of terabytes of information can answer questions found on a standardized test? Golly, maybe this justifies your copium.

I doubt you ever scored above 1000 and it eats you inside every day.