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It's over...

>> No.16000000

Who cares. Either it's not real and nothing ever happens or it is real and everyone is fucked anyway since gigajews won't change their business practices and consumers won't give up cheap energy and transport of cheap plastic shit.

>> No.16000005

>>16000000
wasted 16M... fuck you

>> No.16000023

>>16000000
Sums up my attitude as well. If real then Humanity will muddle through and be autocorrected by the planet itself, or it will go extinct. Either option is fine. Humanity consists of a bulk of retarded sheep and a few smarter ones who abuse their IQ advantage to exploit the dummies. The few outliers lack the numbers and will to make any significant difference.

>> No.16000098

>>15999980
Based Sabine the doomer queen
Not like we're seeing an influx of migration or anything, heh nothing personnel

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>>16000000

>> No.16000130

>>15999980
Not necessarily, but the collapse of the industrial civilization is almost certain at this point.
>Verification not required.

>> No.16000145

>>16000130
So what happens next after the collapse?

>> No.16000161

>>16000145
Dark Ages 2
America becomes Byzantium
China is the new Sassanian Persia

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>>16000000

>> No.16000175

>>16000145
She explains this in the video.
Africa will most likely experience Malthusian collapse (that's TND for chuds), with millions migrating north that will be eventually killed at the borders. Liberal democracies will transform into authoritarian states as they always do, economies will tank and the wars for resources will break out. As for what happens next over the next couple millennia, your guess is probably as good as mine, but one positive is that the climate should stabilize at some point.
Granted, I'd rather avoid such future, but without virtually unprecedented action from the countries worldwide and some form of geoengineering, this is unavoidable. Doesn't mean you shouldn't care though and at least somewhat prepare.

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>>15999980
I don't give a fuck. Whatevers meant to be is meant to be. Stop crying. MOVE FORWARD.

>> No.16000181

>>15999980
>2 threads in 10 minutes
Buy a fucking ad you freaky bitch

>> No.16000208

>>16000175
Anon isn't that the plot of Children of Men

>> No.16000234

>>16000208
I don't know, I haven't watched it.
I'm just making predictions based on what I know and understand about our systems.

>> No.16000238

>>16000000
Pretty much. Either our technology advances to the point where climate change is no longer a problem before it destroys us or we’re sent back to the Stone Age. Not much in between.

>> No.16000293

>>16000000
This. Why are people worrying about this? You have zero effect on the climate as one of the plebian masses. You might as well worry about asteroid impacts, Gamma ray bursts, Random strokes, super volcanos etc.

>> No.16000614

>>16000000
There it is.

>> No.16000620

>>16000175
Wow an hysterical and hyperbolic leftist take, I cant's believe it.

>> No.16000625

>>16000620
>leftist
Lol no.

>> No.16000645

>>16000620
Yeah remember when leftists made up that hyperbolic meme about every vaxxoid dying by August of 2021 haha that was crazy

>> No.16000644

This thread was made by retards for retards.

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>>16000000
how dare you
https://www.bitchute.com/video/8AHkAJrpAxd4/

>> No.16000713

>>16000620
I don't know where you find hysteria in this or how is this leftist (I, for one, find possibility of TND quite interesting). Just because your feelings are hurt doesn't mean anything.

>> No.16000715

>>16000175
Promises, promises.

>> No.16000729

>>16000645
I remember the "red deer" meme with "vaxxies dropping like flies by november". It's a testament to /pol/ retardation.

>> No.16000742

>>16000650
what the fuck is this trite bullshit
why would you ever post slop like this
even zoomer poo toilet meme videos are better than this

>> No.16000748

>>16000000
lol and yep that's true

>> No.16000763

>>15999980
Global warming is a MASSIVELY GOOD thing. During the Eocene period, the global mean temperature was 14 degrees warmer than it is now. There are fossils of palm trees and aligators all they way up in Northern Canada!! That means it was frost free all the way up there. So changing most of Earths tundra, boreal forest, and cold continental climates to "wet mediterranian" climates (think San Francisco) is a MASSIVE positive change for the entirety of not only humanity, but plant and animal life as well. Do you know WHY the elites are so hell bent on preventing it? Think of all that new land that will be opened up for human settlement! Most of it is complete wasteland now! Governments NEED artificial scarcity to maintain their control. They would have a hell of a time maintaining control over a widely dispersed civilization like that. It's always been a challenge. Look at how paranoid Russia, China, and the United States are about remote elements in their own territories as it is today! It's one of the reasons why the United States refuses to open up western BLM land for settlement which is what they are SUPPOSED to do under the law (Desert Lands Act). But they're to paranoid about anyone just wanting to be left alone and being self sufficient, so that's a total no no. China abuses its remote provinces line Xinjiang. Likewise Russia, and it has had to make lots of compromises in order to keep remote parts of Russia fully integrated into Russia (calling them "autonomous republics"etc). I'll tell you the LAST thing the elites want is the vast majority of the land on this planet to turn into a nice, palm tree laden, mild frost free climate. It would make their Malibu Beach Houses seem that much less special.

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>>16000000
Sabine is a German retard who pisses on the serfs from her Ivory Tower of lies. Simple as. She can't do a basic bitch math problem despite having a PhD in physics. Let that sink in.

>A lithium-ion battery pack has about 0.3 MJ/kg and about 0.4 MJ/liter (Chevy VOLT). Gasoline thus has about 100 times the energy density of a lithium-ion battery.

There is no fuel we can use in heavy equipment or say jumbo jets besides oil and it's derivatives. Then you factor in that mining equipment needs petroleum products to mine lithium and the silver solar panels need to function. Air conditioners also keep many elderly people alive in hot climates, untold thousands would die with out AC and Sabine thinks that's cool.

Even if you want to say humans are making climate change and doing all the bad things it doesn't matter, you can't stop using oil unless you want to kill hundreds of millions of people. You can't feed the world with battery powered tractors. She also would destroy the ladder poor people can use to lift themselves out of poverty and condemn them to near starvation levels of existence for her hair brained bullshit.

Newsflash Sabine, poor people can afford an AK-47 rifle before they can afford a lithium battery so why wouldn't they just do that instead and get rid of the people stopping them from progress? Idiot cunt.

>> No.16000994

>>16000970
>There is no fuel we can use in heavy equipment
Demonstrably false. Ships can be powered by all sorts of fuel.

>> No.16001069

>>16000994
Great now power the world's fleet of mining, farming and construction machinery with it. At scale. Economically.

>> No.16001087

>>16000970
t. The least obvious oil shill.
>kill hundreds of millions of people
As opposed to a few of billion? Even by your own metric Sabine stands head and shoulders above you in math.

>> No.16001337

>>16000970
The solution is to use agricultural carbon for coal liquefaction to produce sustainable and carbon neutral alkanes for fuel. Of course we'll also need a much more robust power source, which means nuclear plants and eventually geothermal.

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>>15999980
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>>16000994
>>16001069
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>>16001337
We live in a simulation, who the fuck cares. Death is a natural part of life. I always tell people that death is the natural way of things. The analogy I use is eating shit. Have you ever eaten an animal? Well, the animal had to fucking die for you to eat it. We're just going back home.

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>>16000175
I like how Africa is supposed to suffer a Malthusian collapse but it's the fucking North American, European and East Asian countries suffering from low birthrates, Trillions of dollars in debt, economies that have priced out their own citizens right NOW!

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>>15999980
>Climate Hossenfelder? Liked her better when she talked about QFT and QED.

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>>15999980
she may have had some """interesting""" things to say in the beginning, but like most youtubers she is now just shovelling out bullshit for $$$

>> No.16002291

>>16000005
What does the 16M count up from?

>> No.16002322

>>15999980
Climate change is a communist lie

>> No.16002371

Don't worry guys, if we give the government more money they'll solve the weather

>> No.16002521

>>16000023
Now you know why so many southerners are moved to Western countries. South will be death zones and their ethnicities would not survive.

>> No.16002553

>>16000175
>Africa will most likely experience Malthusian collapse (that's TND for chuds)
some theories say that originally the Sahara desert was created originally to contain Bantus

>> No.16002554

>>15999980
>scientists
>prays once shit hits the fan
lmao

>> No.16002595

>>16000713
NTA
>leftism
nah
>hysteria
I like when she said "mindFUCKINgly stupid". If that's not a burst of hysteria out of an otherwise (presumably) collected scientist, I got news.

>> No.16003814

>>16000000
Based take

>> No.16003822

>>16000970
I thought the lion’s share of the gasoline being burned was for ships, not for aircraft.

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>>16000000
Nice hex, but I care. Not in the form of trying to prevent it, but in the form of where I plan to migrate to so my offspring have a higher chance of survival.
>inb4 fuck off we're full
I didn't ask. I will white-flight whereever I want and you can't stop me.

>> No.16004397

>>16000234
You gave the impression that you were summarizing her video. Were you not?

>> No.16004400

>>16000763
>Global temps increase by 14 C
>Too hot to live within 30° of the equator
>Everyone forced to move far north or south
>Agricultural system decimated
>Wars break out, absolute mayhem due to starvation and lack of resources
>Society sent back to medieval times or worse
Yeah, Anon, this sounds like a spectacular future.

>> No.16004486

>>16004397
I haven't watched Children of Men

>> No.16004624

>>16004400
>Society sent back to medieval times or worse
Why would it? You faggots say this over and over but never explain why we would. Why we'd collectively forget everything we know and regress species wide. Is it just wishful thinking?

>> No.16004689

>>16003822
>Imagine being this retarded
Compare how much energy it takes to move a mass over a distance using different modes of transport.

>> No.16004754

>>16004340
>>16003814
Take your meds.

>> No.16005018

>>16000005
16 million what?

>> No.16005061

>>16000000
Witnessed

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>>16000970
>>A lithium-ion battery pack has about 0.3 MJ/kg and about 0.4 MJ/liter (Chevy VOLT). Gasoline thus has about 100 times the energy density of a lithium-ion battery.
Modern batteries have about 0.72 MJ/kg now. So twice that and EVs are about 3 times as efficient as regular gas cars so gasoline is only 15 times as dense in real terms.

EVs manage to get comparable range to their regular gas car equivalents by making the batteries very large.

>> No.16005074

>>16005066
So her only mistake was using incorrect energy density for a lithium battery and not looking at the energy efficiency? Dont see how that is inability to do math like >>16000970 said.

>> No.16005078

>>16001359
Yes, all because of contraceptives, and being high iq enought to use then.
Historical statistics say that.

>> No.16005079

>>16004400
Remember that white people evolved during winter times, climate change can extinct you for a long time, and all populations will be dark skinned just because the hole you put in the atmosfere.

>> No.16005099

>>16005066
>gasoline is only 15 times as dense in real terms.
>only

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>>16000000
>that opinion
>that digits

>> No.16005103

>>16005066
>EVs are about 3 times as efficient as regular gas cars
I see this thrown around very often but where does the number come from?

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OMG THE HECKING NUMBERS
sage

>> No.16006485

>>16000994
Water transport is the most energy efficient method of transportation, which is why it's cheap.

Heavy machinery on land is not.

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>>16000000

>> No.16006552

>>16005336
>sage
>Anonymous
what? Do newfags really?

>> No.16006672

>>16000000
CHECKED

>> No.16006939

>>16000000
Checked. Put me in the screencap
Edit: omg 274 views! Can't believe I'm internet famous!!

>> No.16007319

>>16000145
Judaism

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>>16000000
CHECKED

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>>16000000
Checked

>> No.16007525

>>16000000
I am already a poor NEET, I live in a small flat, I don't have a car, I walk everywhere, don't consooom much and don't travel internationally.

Greens are in the government and they don't do shit against climate change, they don't close the borders to prevent third worlders from coming here to have a much bigger climate footprint, they don't shut down frivolous industries like tourism and make flying more expensive, they don't take actions against industry moving to nations without strict environmental laws that pollute more than the local equivalent would.
All they care about is making life hell for middle class people who depend on their car.

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>>16000000

>> No.16009102

>>16000000
I pray these numbers are checked

>> No.16009106

>>16000000
Oh shit those numbers

>> No.16009115

>>16007525
You're using a computer, something which costs billions of carbon credits every hour. So clearly there's lots left to give up. Try not using heat or air conditioning, as well as only eating raw vegetables. Every little bit helps!

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>>16009115
Demons like you deserve to be dismembered, flayed, and burned alive.

>> No.16009285

>>16000000
>>16007525
When I was a NEET I thought I could make a difference. Then I got a job in industry and saw that the lab for a relatively small company could chew through more energy and water in a day than I would use in a decade.
You can't compete. The individual's power is in driving market forces. Your actual behaviour doesn't matter in the scheme of things.

>> No.16009405

>>16001814
This. I like some of her earlier stuff, but not the new material as much. I loved her first “you don’t have free will” video. I’m not convinced that she’s correct, but it was really interesting. Her “is math real” video is my favorite.

>> No.16009417

>>16009115
No it doesn't, retard. Laptops use less than 100w, cellphones and wifi routers use less than 50w, and my gaming computer with a dozen SSDs and multiple graphics cards draws less that a kilowatt. Compare that to pretty much any activity, such as driving where every gallon you burn uses more than 33 kWh which is enough to run your phone for more than 1,000 hours or my computer for nearly two days, or you could even run your air conditioner at full blast for nearly ten hours with that energy. Google "scale" and "order of magnitude" and be less of a retard.

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>>16000000
Al Gore was right. His only mistake was the timing.
Be ready for serious changes on this planet.

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>>15999980
>bitcoin mining now consumes 2% of electricity in the united states
https://arstechnica.com/science/2024/02/over-2-percent-of-the-uss-electricity-generation-now-goes-to-bitcoin/

we could be lowering our energy bills and saving the climate if we banned the pyramid scheme

>> No.16010124

>>16009609
Now do credit cards and tiktok, dumbfuck

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>>16000000
Checked, future self promo for the screenshot

>> No.16012034

>>16001087
>1 degree increase in temperature on average will kill billions.
You are a different kind of retard aren't you.

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>>16000005
Everyone, please remember not to waste >>27182818
>>2718281 was already shit.

>> No.16012068

>>16005103
~70% of the usable energy per unit is lost to mechanical (friction) and chemical (heat) in combustion engines, only about 10% in electrical systems (motors)

>> No.16012072

>>16009417
Sorry, but those carbon credits are getting expensive. You'll have to tighten your belt even more now.

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>>16004754
My what?

>> No.16012470

>>16009417
>actually fell for the "carbon footprint" meme

I wonder, maybe humans are naturally herbivorous, with the amount of nigger goycattle out there these days

>> No.16012802

>>16012072
>>16012470
>Imagine being this retarded

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>>16009609
:^)

>> No.16012903

>>16000175
>he only thinks africa will experience mathusian collapse
The western world is by definition, a Malthusian trap. A whole society of useless consumers who would fight to the death over their right to scream tranny or free palestein but won't lift a finger when they are priced out of home ownership, parenthood, or a worthwhile life.

You guys are fucked. What happens when the toyslop conveyer belts jam up? What will you do then?

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>>15999980
>It's over...
Interesting.

>> No.16012940

>>16000179
you must be a terrible driver

>> No.16012955

>>16012903
>but won't lift a finger when they are priced out of home ownership, parenthood, or a worthwhile life
What are they supposed to do? Violence towards their oppressors that brainwashed them? Just break the law? Even suggesting the required actions is illegal, there's nothing they even *can* do.

>> No.16012968

>>16000000
About right, but I'd say if climate change were real the best way to solve it is just let it happen and allow the market to be free to develop solutions to the problems as they come. The gigajews are the people in government.

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>>16000175
This but dysgenics driven by selection pressures made by complex civilization.

>(that's TotalNiggerDeath for chuds)
That made me chuckle. Still not nice billions must either starve to death or never be born.

>https://doi.org/10.1016/j.intell.2016.10.002

>> No.16013369

>>16012914
Fuck off acorn

>> No.16013475

>>15999980
>Photographing something you want to show everyone

>> No.16013514

>>16000000
omfg, how's it feel? only heard about this, never before seen it.