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what changed?

>> No.15998585

The science

>> No.15998586

>>15998563
An antivaxxer risked their life.

>> No.15998591

>>15998585
This. The science was settled, then it evolved and settled again.

>> No.15999054

>>15998563
The people who were gung-ho about medical care all ended up in graves

>> No.15999150

>>15998563
Narratives evolved, propaganda was dialed back, and online censorship suppressing inconvenient facts was beaten back somewhat.

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>>15999150

>> No.15999206

>>15999204
It's been years m8, you guys ever gonna come up with a new meme?

>> No.15999207

>>15998563
I get yearly flu vaccines. They do exactly why I expect a vaccine to do: give me mild sniffles, a little fatigued the next day, and then get immunity from being sick.

I got two doses of moderna. That second dose kicked my fucking ass. I was bed ridden for 2-3 days. Coughing up a lung. Sicker than any cold or flu ever made me. Then couple months later caught COVID anyway.

Then these motherfuckers have the fucking gall to tell me that if I got COVID without the shot I would have died or something.

I told all my friends I'm never getting an mRNA shot again, and now they all think I'm a psychotic antivaxxer EVEN WHEN I TELL THEM I STILL GET MY YEARLY FLU SHOT.

These people are fucking deranged

>> No.15999216

>>15999206
Are these suppressors of inconvient facts with us in the room right now, Anon?

>> No.15999223

>>15999216
Does this website count as a room?
GAYRY

>> No.15999240

>>15999207
>>I get yearly flu vaccines. They do exactly why I expect a vaccine to do: give me mild sniffles, a little fatigued the next day, and then get immunity from being sick.
lmfao loser

I get no flu vaccine and I don't get the flu either. no sniffles, no fatigue, perfectly healthy.

>> No.15999275

>>15999240
I teach at university with tens of thousands of students. Before I got the yearly flu shot (18-28) I got sick multiple times a year from grading my students papers. Started to get the shot (29-38) and I don't get sick anymore. I don't care how good your immune system is; if you're in a populated area where people constantly travel all over the world (for breaks) and come back a week later, you're going to get sick.

>> No.15999287

>>15999275
Your immune system is supposed to learn how to protect you from illnesses like the flu. You're probably malnourished, get yourself a bottle of multivitamins.

>> No.15999289

>>15999275
There was no fall in mortality from influenza in the age group who received most influenza vaccines

They don't work.

>> No.15999290

>>15999289
I'm not talking about mortality retard. I just don't like getting sick.

>> No.15999850

>>15998563
Wtf is Gung-Ho? Speak English ffs.

>> No.16000167

>>15999850
>t. illiterate

>> No.16000616

>>15999054
Me and my friends are still able to get up the stairs, do cardio, lift weights in the gym and do our jobs. We all are vaxxed at least 2 times.
Just accept that conspiracy theories are fantasies 99% of the time.

>> No.16000835

>>16000616
2 more years, unironically

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>>16000616
>Me and my friends haven't died of lung emphysema therefore smoking is safe
k

>conspiracy theories are fantasies 99% of the time
Are we talking CNN 'conspiracy theories' or Alex Jones 'conspiracy theories'? Because the historical accuracy of these two are very different.

>> No.16001045

>>15999287
You don't really understand how hemagglutinin or neuraminidase mutations contribute to virulence, do you?

>> No.16001053

>>16000616
Mkultra.

>> No.16001210

>>16000616
That's normal plus booster that was mandatory. However, the government wants (you) to take a vax every year like the flu.
It still seems nobody knows the correct dosage, so people with high blood pressure die because the amount of liquid from the injection increases blood pressure to hypertension levels; that lightheadedness. That is why it's called the "clot shot".

>> No.16001217

>>15998563
The propaganda pushed around them wasn't strong enough to hide the actual medical evidence proving they aren't as "safe and effective" as Mr.Fauci claimed.

>> No.16001329

>>16000835
I that what you were saying 2 years ago? Were you saying 4 more years then? Doubt.

>> No.16001391
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>>16001217
Lots of people have figured out that the whole thing was heavily exaggerated, both the threat of the virus and the quality of the preventative. But they're not ready to admit that they took part in the hysteria that gripped much of the world, much less some of the less moral policies they supported. It's easiest to quietly stop getting the boosters and hope everyone will just forget about everything that happened. The pharma companies however want to keep the show going as it was insanely profitable to them and governments need to keep up the appearance that the threat was real to justify their power grabs, which they want to keep forever.

>> No.16001421

>>16000616
being able to open up your bottle of onions isn't typically considered cardio.

>> No.16001468

>>16001329
There's been 40% excess mortality in 18-49s for over two years now so it's not like nothing is happening.

>> No.16001494

>>15998563
Covid is over so normal people don't care about it anymore.
Having to take multiple boosters was really annoying too.

>> No.16001496
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>>15999207
covid vax was never tested for preventing the disease and recent studies show the more doses you get the more you are likely to catch covid and or die. also it gives you permanent heart damage called myocarditis.

please remember pfitzer has strict NO REFUND policy.

>> No.16001500

>>16000616
>just accept that the government does not lie, basically ever
exciting conclusion my fellow hilldawg

>> No.16001553

>>16001045
You really don't have a balanced diet, do you? I know you won't stop scarfing hot pockets so at least eat some damn vitamins.

>> No.16001579

>>16001468
yeah but it didn't happen to ME, personally, so therefore, your conspiracy theory is deboonked, chud

>> No.16001669

>>16001553
So...you don't know how. Gotcha.

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>>15999290
Why are you here? Don't waste time and get two covid boosters in each arm right now. Is good for you.

>> No.16001739

>>16000616
You didn't get enough covid boosters. Get two every week until you no longer have to worry about getting sick ever again.

>> No.16001799

>>15999290
You need to learn how to deal with your pathological fear of dying of the flu.

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>>16001391
>But they're not ready to admit that they took part in the hysteria that gripped much of the world, much less some of the less moral policies they supported

>> No.16003443

Why get it? What does it even do? They've admitted that the vaccine doesn't make you any less likely to catch or spread the sickness, so what's the point?

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>>16003443
Showing the world that you're a good virtuous consumption unit.

>> No.16003573

>>15998563
>men didn't used to get pregnant. what changed?

>> No.16003576

>men didn't used to get pregnant.
>what changed?

>> No.16003577

>>15999287
He's not malnourished he just has shit genetics.

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>>16003577
uh huh

>> No.16003976

>>16003667
Metabolism is also genetic, retard.

>> No.16003996

>>16003976
>Metabolism
Lol. How many kcal dialy variance do you think metabolism ia

>> No.16004000

>>15998563
gung-ho is a funny word

>> No.16004003

>>16003667
>low fat
Comic is contradicting itself isn't it? He's eating healthy

>> No.16004007

>>16000616
Why aren't you all vaxxed at least five times by now? Don't you believe medical experts?

>> No.16004863

>>15999287
>Your immune system is supposed to learn how to protect you from illnesses like the flu.
more than that: we only ever recover from viral infections by gaining immunity to it in the course of illness. if natural immunity wasn't a thing as these yahoos claimed, then no one ever would have recovered from COVID.

>> No.16005209

>>16004003
>he thinks eating frozen milk and sugar is healthy if it was made with skim milk
Fatty logic.

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>>16005209

>> No.16005316

>>16005300
If you need a 150pg document to tell whether somethig is healthy or not you're probably being dumb

>> No.16005324

>>15998563
Covid turned out to be a sham, at least until long Covid which is incurable and debilitating millions. But, that's like... not killing lol?

>> No.16005330

>>16005300
put down the ice cream and eat some vitamins, then you won't have the damn flu knocking you on your ass every year

>> No.16005339

because all the antivaxxers told them nothing would happen to them and they were right

>> No.16006013

>>16005330
I always find it hillarious that some people get angry when they find out something as delicious as ice cream is also has health benefits. You'd have to be a total moron with a seriously messed up outlook on life to find such a fortuitous twist of fate to be irritating

>> No.16006426

>>16006013
>dairy is nutritious therefore binge eating ice cream won't make me a diabetic fatass
more fatty logic

>> No.16006434

>>15998563
Everyone who took it died or is actively dying?

>> No.16006462

>>16005324
The vaccines can induce long covid. The cause is excess spike in the blood, which is a result of either prolonged infection or failure of the immune systems to kill the MRNA rewritten cells producing it.

>> No.16006531

>>16005300
im not reading all that shit

>> No.16007431

>>16006426
>t. total moron with a seriously messed up outlook on life

>> No.16007432

>>15999204
Is that Doreen Ford?

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>>16006531
>I'm unable to comprehend scientific discourse

>> No.16008419

>>16008405
if you can't prove your point without posting an entire pdf file then you don't know what you're talking about.

>> No.16008443

>>16000616
Still waiting to die because of hospital collapse from covid

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>>16008443
hospitals are where people go to die, if hospitals themselves die then fewer people will die.
medical error is the leading cause of death at least in america, but probably everywhere else too.

>> No.16009696

>>16009679
Really? Because people on /sci/ were saying I would die from a broken bone or an infected cut after the medical system collapsed due to covid.

>> No.16009699

>>15999207
No refunds, you fucking idiot. Why would you get two shots to begin with? Enjoy your continuous and worsening reinfection with covid because your immune system is fucked.

>> No.16009702

>>15999275
Do you think, possibly, being naturally infected with the flu repeatedly when you were younger created a robust and long-lasting natural immune response to influenza, and your annual flu shots are a needless placebo?

>> No.16009706

>>16000616
Why did you stop getting vaxxed? Your limited initial immunity wanes in a matter of months. Don't tell me you don't trust the science anymore...

>> No.16009711

>>16001494
But covid is still here...

>> No.16010677

>>16009711
it never existed to begin with

>> No.16010697

It is a long, slow process for dumb people to figure out there are people smarter than them in this world and it isnt the people who work for the government, but eventually they figure it out

>> No.16010928

>>16009699
That was nearly four years ago anon. My immune system is fine.
>>16009702
Not a chance since even in my late 20s I was getting sick from my students on a semesterly basis. It was never serious, but it was annoying. Since I started getting the flu shot in my 30s, I haven't gotten sick at all from my students. I don't think that can be explained by your reasoning.

>> No.16011314

>>16010928
You turned your body into a spike protein factory, you stupid idiot, for no fucking reason at all.

>> No.16011352

Rules 1 and 2, don't believe anything written here.

Stories here of people who got sick and didn't get sick from the vaxx are as verifiable as the time I met a fairy in my garden. Sadly anecdotal evidence is more convincing than official statements because the media and government lie constantly. Point is, come to your own conclusions and don't let any anonymous jackass tell you that you're wrong.

>> No.16011375

>>15999289
Mortality is not the sole metric of efficacy.

>> No.16011376

>>15998563
Basically people only got it because they were threatened and coerced into getting it... therefore it was nonconsensual and one of the biggest medical crimes in history
128 people were killed in the tuskegee experiment
230 million+ were threatened into vaxxing

>> No.16011806

>>16011376
I only got it once, and my job threatened to fire me if I didn't do it.

Fastfoward 2 yrs, they don't bother to even ask new employees if they are vaxxed any more.
Makes my blood boil

>> No.16011831

>>16011806
>Makes my blood boil
Not enough to do anything lmao

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>>16011831
>Not enough to do anything lmao

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>> No.16011986

>>16011831
I bullied others into getting the vaccine like I did. I did my part and they should too!

>> No.16011998

>>16011806
No refunds, dumbfuck. Why would you even get the first one?

>> No.16012001

>>16011998
Ok, boomer

>> No.16012009

>>16012001
I'm 27, unvaxxed, not dead, and my immune system is still in tact.

Kys faggot

>> No.16012069

>>16012009
You're also illiterate and deranged

>> No.16012092

>>15999216
I support depopulation efforts towards your entire lineage now. Get boosted retard.

>> No.16012093

>>15999207
I would give you a lead vaccine to the dome you fucking idiot. fuck you.

>> No.16012094

>>16011806
smart people said no. You are one of the other types I guess. Your fault fuckhead lmao

Vaxxed losers should lose their human rights. You are the next helots.

>> No.16012102

>>16012094
>not wanting to lose and being basically left with no choice but to get vaxxed means you should have your rights taken
sometimes I wish the virus was an actual threat and not a nothing burger

>> No.16012108

>>16012102
In Canada I had my rights taken. I still didn't cuck and get the vax like you did. You are a weak, pathetic human being. You had the chance to stand up for something totally relevant to your life and health, and you gave in.

Fuck you.

>> No.16012111

>>16012069
I'm illiterate? My spelling and grammar are spot on. I even read books.

By the way, did you get your booster? Oh? Why not?

Kek

>> No.16012336

>>16012108
>I had my rights taken away
>I still didn't get cucked
Canucks. Lmao.

>> No.16012602

>>16010928
>Since I started getting the flu shot in my 30s, I haven't gotten sick at all from my students
Outside your academic bubble it is well knowned that a lot of professions with people or eg sewage contact go to a phase of often illness at the beginning. After a few years they are usually immune.

>> No.16012786

>>16012111
Oh? You read BOOKS?
Then why was it so difficult for you to read a single post moron

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>>15998563

>> No.16013305

>>15998591
>This. The science was settled, then it evolved and settled again.
Never trust science.
Real thread here: >>16013289

>> No.16013306

>>16000616
>We all are vaxxed at least 2 times.
You are like a child.
>They sure gave me the real thing not the placebo!
>I bet it was the real thin!

Like a child. Shit loads of people died from the real vaxx the media did not report on it.

>> No.16013737

>>16011998
>No refunds, dumbfuck
Daily reminder that the medical mafia must be made accountable.

THE CEOs and investors of all these corporations must be dragged into the streets and killed by mobs.

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>>16013737
In most industrialized countries, 90%+ of adults got the injections. There will be no reckoning. No accountability. Almost everyone was complicit.
>But I only did it because...
Doesn't matter. Almost everyone is guilty, just some more than others. The guilty will just want to put it all behind them so they can try to forget what they participated in and hope there are no personal consequences for them.

>> No.16013761

>>16013760
>In most industrialized countries, 90%+ of adults got the injections.
NOT ME! HAHAHA LOL!

>> No.16013774

>>16013761
Me neither but it's far more likely that we will be hated and persecuted than the 90% who did participate.

>> No.16013796

>>16013774
>the 90% who did participate.
LOL I doubt more then 50% participated.
And I think over 50% of that died so the vaxxed are not only 25% of the population.

>> No.16013839

>>16012602
Ten years isn't a "few years" home bro. Also academia is different than whatever blue collar job you're talking about. In academia your students go on vacation ALL AROUND THE FUCKING WORLD. It's physiologically impossible to have immunity to global variants of a virus that's seasonal. It's like you completely forgot the context of my original post so let me remind you. I spend nearly ten years in intro academia getting sick nearly every semester. Switched to getting flu shot in my 30s. Haven't been sick yet. You understand yet?

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>>16013761
the vaccination rate was far, far below what was claimed by the press and the soience liars

>> No.16015112

We grew up vaxxies.
Consider doing the same.

>> No.16015328

>>15999207
>EVEN WHEN I TELL THEM I STILL GET MY YEARLY FLU SHOT.
Why were you even getting a flu shot to begin with? Do you suffer from some medical condition? Having a flu vaccine that targets the wrong strain can make it worse which is probably what happened to you with the covid "vaccine" which was based off an early UK alpha variant and never decided to update it until way past omicron.

>> No.16015330

>>15999275
>I teach at university with tens of thousands of students
You're unhealthly, how is it that these tens of thousands of students and likely faculty members as well aren't getting as sick as you?

>> No.16015337

>>15998563
Covid isn't doing enough anymore to outweigh fatigue, boredom, and laziness about getting vaccination.

>> No.16015600

>>16015328
I've never had an issue with the flu vaccine.
>>16015330
If you actually read my posts you'll see th severity was never that bad. I just don't like getting sick for a few days. I'd grab some DayQuil and go to work.

Why can't you antivaxxers read?

>> No.16016499

>>16015600
>the flu vaccine.
https://www.forbes.com/2010/03/10/swine-flu-world-health-organization-pandemic-opinions-contributors-henry-i-miller.html

>> No.16016507

>>15998563
God I hate this arrested development globohomo diversity art style.

>> No.16017097

>>16016507
Some sort of AI horror is bound to replace it soon enough

>> No.16017199

>>16016499
Again has nothing to do with my reasons for getting the flu vaccine.

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>>16017097
Sadly you are probably right; even AI can turn out art for stuff like this that is at least not ugly, you know the editors of all sorts of publications will force ugly stuff anyways.

>> No.16018018

>>15999207
based. don't listen to the rest, it's glowies

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>> No.16019535

Is this place just pol-lite now? Am triple vaccinated with bivalent boosters and doing hard labor just fine lmao. When can we expect the mass doe offs

>> No.16020223

>>16019535
>i hate /sci/
so leave, why force yourself to look at a board that angers you?
>reeeeee /pol/ is out to get me, its a big conspiracy!!!
you're not the center of the universe, nobody cares about you. your irrational self centered persecution fantasies are cringe
https://www.psycom.net/paranoid-schizophrenia

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If you haven't had your 9th booster you're an antivaxxer. You need to get another shot every 90 days forever, if you don't they you're officially a mentally ill paranoid conspiracy theorist.
Also its not the vax causing deadly blood clots, something else is to blame

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>>16016507

>> No.16021701

>>16012111
He literally said why got it in the OP... You need to get a grip

>> No.16022117

>>15998563
It's funny how the people who cheered on the lockdowns and loved the jab are now acting as if they were always against the lockdowns now that people are pissed.

>> No.16022148

>>16021693
Emotional, complex work?
NO! We need more gay.

>> No.16022484

>>15998563
you are a journalist who pretends to be a doctor.
you may need to see a doctor!

>> No.16023118

>>16022117
Those people all also stopped getting their boosters every 90 days

>> No.16024103

>>16023118
that means they're anti-vaxxers