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15991267 No.15991267 [Reply] [Original]

>Used to be really mystified by things like Dark Matter and quarks when I was younger
>Started reading up on it and realize that scientists have no idea what they're doing and are just throwing stuff at a wall and seeing what sticks
Why can't they just admit that they have no clue how the universe works?

>> No.15991270

>>15991267
That's literally why we call it "dark" matter.

>> No.15991274

>>15991267
> just throwing stuff at a wall and seeing what sticks
well, yeah. it's called the scientific method and seems to have worked pretty well for humanity so far.

>> No.15991278

Physicists have a pretty good grasp on predicting the results of a lot experiments.

>> No.15991283

>>15991267
>Why can't they just admit that they have no clue how the universe works?
That's the whole point? Not just of physics, but science in general?

>> No.15991294

>>15991267
What a retarded post

>> No.15991315

>>15991267
>Started reading up on it
No you didn't. What are you claiming to have read?

>> No.15991327

>>15991267
real scientists do admit that

career scientists however, are unable to do so, and as such as not real scientists

science deals in modelsthjmh, not truths

>> No.15991337

>>15991267
holy dunning-kruger!

>> No.15991377

>>15991327
>no true scotsman
Just accept that "science" is an ideal and no actual "scientists" in the ethical sense exist. These theoretical physicists will be as derided as alchemists in later centuries.

>> No.15991497

>>15991337
>>15991294
show me simulation of these standard particles
protip: you can't, these models exist only in your head and long ass paid white papers
btw: no you're carefully crafted graph is not a simulation

>> No.15991808

>>15991497
kek, 7/10, but the "you're" and the last sentence gave it away

>> No.15991812

Works fine on mathematics. Problem is converting math to people with lower levels of math. Conventional language breaks down.

>> No.15992376

>>15991267
Let me fix your post for you, anon.
>Used to be really mystified by things like Dark Matter and quarks when I was younger
>Started reading up on it and realize that I have no idea what scientists are doing, and decide to assume how they do their job because I can't be bothered to learn that.

We know quarks exist because we can observe their effects. we know their mass, charge and spin, because we can observe those effects as well. We know leptons and their corresponding neutrinos exist because we can make them in a lab, do shit with them, and watch what happens. We know gauge bosons exist because we can observe their effects, and in some cases, observe them directly.
There is nothing made-up about them, and nothing made-up about their properties either. They're classified the way they are because of their properties.
Bosons are particles with integer spin, and therefore are not subject to the pauli exclusion principle. this can include elementary or conposite particles.
Fermions are any particle with a half-odd-integer spin charge, which includes leptons, elementary particles not subject to the strong force, and quarks, elementary particles that are subject to the strong force.
These are all objective facts. none od them are made up, and none of it is arbitrary either.

>> No.15992501

>>15992376
Reddit arguments ngl.

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>>15992509
Sixty-Six Theses: Next Steps and the Way Forward in the Modified Cosmological Model
>https://vixra.org/abs/2206.0152
>http://gg762.net/d0cs/papers/Sixty-Six_Theses__v4-20230726.pdf
The purpose is to review and lay out a plan for future inquiry pertaining to the modified cosmological model (MCM) and its overarching research program. The material is modularized as a catalog of open questions that seem likely to support productive research work. The main focus is quantum theory but the material spans a breadth of physics and mathematics. Cosmology is heavily weighted and some Millennium Prize problems are included. A comprehensive introduction contains a survey of falsifiable MCM predictions and associated experimental results. Listed problems include original ideas deserving further study as well as investigations of others' work when it may be germane. A longstanding and important conceptual hurdle in the approach to MCM quantum gravity is resolved. A new elliptic curve application is presented. With several exceptions, the presentation is high-level and qualitative. Formal analyses are mostly relegated to the future work which is the topic of this book. Sufficient technical context is given that third parties might independently undertake the suggested work units.

>> No.15992516

>>15992501
??? You're just saying words dude

>> No.15992549

>>15991267
>be young
>not smart enough
>blame it on myself
>try to understand
>be old
>still not smart enough
>blame it on everyone else
>seethe on fagchan