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How scientifically accurate is this Hitler Youth Handbook from 1938? In particular when it comes to the racial science?
Here it says that Europe is composed of 6 primary races: Nordic, Phallic, Western, Eastern, East-Baltic, Dinaric, and that the German people are a mix of these 6 races. About 50% Nordic and then some of the rest. Each race differs in physical characteristics, and also in what they deemed mind (intellect?), and "spirit" (analogous perhaps to personality?).
It also has an overview of hereditary, race fostering, arguing for eugenics (on logical and humanitarian grounds), and against stuff like incest.

>> No.15936063

race is here I assume similar to the idea of landrace not the current contemporary idea?

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>>15936063
>landrace
These are all considered the Aryan races. So you can think of it as sub-race or whatever. Clearly not at the continental level (e.g. what is usually meant such as white, black, yellow/Asian etc.), but more granular.

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>> No.15936077

>>15936067
How well does this model resonate with the genetic data we have on the 3 primary groups making up european ancestry ie western hunter gatherer, anatoilan farmers, and steppe nomads?

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>>15936077
Well, they of course knew about the Aryan/Proto-Indo-Europeans. So these are presumably "races" or sub-groups that stemmed from them in combination with the groups you mentioned.
Here are some relevant parts of the book for that. And note that it is in fact true than Nordics have the most PIE/Aryan admixture

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>> No.15936097

>>15936062
Its not scientific and nobody cares. We have been over this already, its too hard to scientifically define race, everyone just goes with the literal social constructions they have learned from childhood.
All biological classifications are always fuzzy and subjective. Yes, very different species like cows and ants are clearly different types of organisms, but theres a point when you cant be so sure, even ants and cows share many things in common.

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>>15936086
By the way, here is a modern understanding of the Proto-Indo-Europeans or what they're calling Indo-Germanic. The origin is wrong (at the time it was thought to be somewhere in Northern Europe), the rest is about right.

>> No.15936105

>>15936100
who was living in all the places the yamna moved to?

>> No.15936110

>>15936105
Other peoples they conquered. In the case of Europe it was mostly what are now called WHG, AF, EEF i.e. Western Hunter Gatherer, Anatolian Farmers, Early European Farmer etc.
In India for example the they conquered parts of the sub-continent, and brought with the Sanskrit and the Vedas.

>> No.15936112

>>15936100
I thought it was more the bell beakers not the yamna exactly?

>> No.15936143

Holy shit. You can upload PDFs on 4chan? Since when?

>> No.15936147

>>15936143
needs a gold 4chan account

>> No.15936180

>>15936143
this >>15936147, only 3.50$/month
Just type your credit card details in the "Name" field and "GOLD ACCOUNT" (all caps) in the "Options" field.

>> No.15936190

>>15936180
like this?

>> No.15936305

>>15936190
Exactly sir.

>> No.15936328

>>15936062
>Phallic
I'm interested in this phallic race.
I want pics about it.
No homo oc, it's scientific curiosity.

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>> No.15936334

>>15936069
Jews and americans lied to the whole world for 80 years about german racial ideas. They didn't misunderstand them, they willingly lied to preserve their position of power.

>> No.15936342

>>15936062
seems like good and rational stuff. wish they would teach that nowadays.

>> No.15936349

I'm a Ostisch (Alpine) Sovak, am I Aryan or Subhuman according to Nazi ideology.

>> No.15936351

>>15936349
You're a white European. You're not a german but who cares? Identity has several layers. You're part of the Evropean project too.

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>>15936349
Aryan.

>> No.15936360

>>15936353
Also there was no such thing as "subhuman" in NSDAP ideology.

>> No.15936542

the nazis were right about literally everything

>> No.15936549

>>15936542
>nazis
country bumpkins?

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>>15936542
Yep.

>> No.15936589

>>15936333
>>15936328
That's Phalic with one L. Big difference

>> No.15936597

>>15936582
I totally agree with Hitler here, the problem is his solution this this was that the government controls the media directly, which is even worse. I don't know if this is a case of power corrupts or if he was just a hypocrite from the outset.

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>>15936597
I'm not sure it is even worse. Hitler was always very clear about state control, so there is no hypocrisy there. At least here you can hold people accountable (at least when not under a "representative democracy" (idiocracy in theory; plutocracy in practice).

>> No.15936624

>>15936621
>plutocracy in practice
How does a plutocracy differ from and oligarchy?

>> No.15936648

>>15936624
Plutocracy is a form of oligarchy really (and I claim all power structures ultimately become oligarchies of some kind), but one can at least imagine a system of oligarchy that's not motivated by profit, greed, psychopaths etc.
Perhaps an epistocracy where only those above a certain IQ threshold and who proved agency could vote on officials and a leader. And these officials had much more stringent rules to follow (e.g. absolutely no lobbying money, no business interests of any kind etc., no living in private bubbled gated communities, interests outside the nation). This is just brainstorming, not carefully thought out

>> No.15936677

>>15936648
Do you know anything of the role played by credut and debt?
I've been reading a little into the concept of debt jubilees and their history.

>> No.15936685

>>15936677
*credit and debt

>> No.15936689

>>15936677
I am aware that the current fractional reserve banking system (without fractional reserve requirements, i.e. the Fed removed them 3 years ago), and that a cartel of private banks essentially have a monopoly on the creation of money (including the Federal Reserve, which is neither federal nor a reserve), which they create out of thin air by issuing out loans. But there is never enough money to pay out these loans so more loans must be taken out, increasing the debt etc.
I am still reading about it's history and development, and how exactly this great power over the supply of money is used for nefarious purposes. But intuitively it rings true that the debtor is always subservient to the creditor.

>> No.15936705

>>15936689
Yes.
I came across the book forgive them their debts by Michael Hudson.
It outlines the historic practice of simply forgiving debts by monarchs looking to stabilise their power also religious rules that include it.
He makes the case that christianity was originally a movement calling for debt jubilees but was absorbed and taken over by the creditor powers of Rome who we are essentially still subject to today.
They changed the meaning to sin.
I found it somewhat filled in a few of the puzzle pieces I'd been trying to fit into the bizarre first millenium history and the subsequent power structures.

>> No.15936711

>>15936143
/sci/ has had it for over ten years newfag.
A few other boards have special upload capability for certain file types.
I won't spoil you the fun of figuring out which boards allow what files.

>> No.15937360

>>15936648
>not motivated by profit
profit isn't an evil thing if it's earned honestly, its a natural result of superior methods and efficiency in that case. poorly run organizations that are full of corruption and stupidity can't generate profits the way well run operations can

>> No.15937364

>>15937360
>profit isn't an evil thing if it's earned honestly,
cool it with the antisemitic remarks.
Profit as a motive is fine in the business sphere so long it does not conflict with the community.
But government should not be motivated by profit first and foremost -- or really at all -- but rather the well being of the nation.

>> No.15937856

>>15936597
Yes, I think the great failing of these analysis is the solutions they propose.

>> No.15938634

>>15936597
>the government controls the media directly, which is even worse.
having a bunch of "independent" media organizations that are secretly really under direct government control is not worse than having a bunch of media organizations that are openly under direct government control. the later situation is at least honest. having the FBI & CIA censoring Twtter and pretending it isn't going on would only happen if they were committing crimes that they were trying to cover up

>> No.15938639

>>15936062
It's just dumb pseudorational propaganda, of course.

>> No.15938683

>>15938634
>>15936621
>it's better to get sent to the gulag or get zyklon'd than to get censored on twitter
>in an authoritarian government structure government officials can be held accountable

You Nazi retards really have some nerve leaving your little /pol/ bubble to come here with this trite.

>> No.15938694

>>15936062
The truth is: we don't know, because you're not allowed to research race and its differences beyond a very superficial level. In 2023, we're forced to be in the dark about race science.

>> No.15939004

>>15936062
>Phallic
Sure. That sounds completely not made up.

>> No.15939007

>>15939004
It's a misspelling. The word used is Phalic

>> No.15939054

>>15938683
>get zyklon'd
I'm not a louse sorry

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>> No.15940233

>>15936062
>Phallic

That's a weird way to spell dalofaelid but okay

>> No.15940387

>>15939007
As if it mattered.

>> No.15941119

>>15938683
>OY VEY THE NAZIS ARE OUT TO GET ME!!!!
nobody believes your holohoax fairy tales anymore, shlomo

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>>15936062
According to Wikipedia differential fertility does not affect next generation population averages.
Debunked.

>> No.15941901

>>15936353
Bullshit infographic that contradicts other race textbooks of the time.
>>15936360
Retard.

>> No.15941905

>>15939054
David Irving says there were homicidal gassings. Retard.

>> No.15941920

>>15941901
The sources are all right there and also perfectly in line with the OP PDF given to Hitler Youth. Too lazy to find them? Here is Organisationsbuch der NSDAP:
https://archive.org/details/OrganisationsbuchDerNSDAP/page/n805/mode/2up
>Retard.
Oh, go on and find some official NSDAP policy declaring, for example, slavs or jews to be "subhuman".
>>15941905
(only after several beatings, death threats, prison time etc.) Irving doesn't say there were gassings in Auschwitz, which is were Zyklon-B was allegedly used. In the stories the Reinhardt camps used diesel engines.

>> No.15942085

>>15938683
>>it's better to get sent to the gulag or get zyklon'd

I would rather get zyklon'd because zyklon is a delousing agent.

>> No.15942790

>>15942085
This, nobody was killed in the holohoax, if it had actually happened then they wouldn't need to make 9000 hollywood movies about it to convince everyone it was real.

>> No.15942792

>>15942790
Is Unit 731 also fake? The evidence as far as I know is Soviet-extracted testimonies.

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>>15936097
>its too hard to scientifically define race
yeah yeah yeah sure. It's so hard yet no one has any trouble understanding what a white person is when talking about affirmative action. So difficult you can take a DNA test that tells you exactly where your ancestry is from. Or pass some genetic data through a program that matches self-identified race 99.8% of the time.

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>>15942792
>russians lie about everything!!
>except the holocaust evidence, the russians would never lie about that

>> No.15944866

>>15936062
Bump

>> No.15944883

>>15936062
>>15936067
white racism of the nazis, is just the nationalism of the germans after ww1 you stupid fucks.

if you are not literal germans who want to build an empire in the 1930s you are stupid fucks who should have an iq of -100 if a legitimate "iq" test actually existed.

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>>15944883
>reeeeeeeee muh racism!!!!
>science isn't real!!!
why do you chimp out so hard over basic human taxonomy? you don't throw a hissy fit when the same observations are made of any other species. you're just a brainwashed emotional wreck

>> No.15945874

>>15936624
From page 35
>More important than all these measures, however, is the selective process, which today as formerly is being applied by the National Socialist movement. The appeal to the racial pride of our people, has led the best Germans into our movement as fighters and continues to be decisive for the recruiting of the future. Not money and possessions, nor name or parentage are the things most esteemed, but only attainment and readiness to take an active part. The latter qualities, however, are to be found in all ranks and classes of the people. A real socialistic process of selection leads those who have the requisite capacity, and are called for the purpose to the highest positions of the party and the state. The fighting period, by reason of its daily sacrifice of blood and goods, naturally brought with it the severest process of selection. Today the process of selection must take place along other lines. The numerous schools for leaders, especially the Ordensburgen and the Adolf Hitler schools, have taken over these tasks. Here character, willingness to serve the community, power of decision, and ability to do are tested as they once were during the fighting period. The fundamental principle of the socialistic process of selection likewise applies here. As stated in the announcements regarding the Adolf Hitler schools, "School training is gratuitous" and further "Every career within the party and the state stands open to the Adolf Hitler scholar after the successful completion of his course. By these measures, the German people will always be certain of having a suitable supply of leaders. A new nobility, the nobility of accomplishment and work, will guarantee the future of folk and Reich

>> No.15946809

>>15936353
nordische rasse: real, i1 haplogroup, scandinavians

sälische?? rasse: real, r1b haplo, celtic basically

ostbaltische rasse: not real. a white, purely slavic, r1a haplo, race would be real, think of alexei navalny. it's what they tried to depict but had drawn instead some suommi mutant that is not a race.

others: real but not white or european.

also: they weren't racist against slavs, only against poles. but so were other slavs.

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>>15936062
does that book tell you how to burn tranny literature and destroy the jewish porno industry?

>> No.15947295

>>15947278
It has sections on how German cultural and artistic life should reflect the German's spirit and values, and be free of foreign, in particular Jewish, influence.

>> No.15947312

>>15946809
Y-haplogrouos are just male lineage.

>> No.15947383

I don't like it when literature talks about races within races within races, it dilutes and convolutes the total idea of race

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>>15947295
sounds like good stuff

>> No.15948561

>>15936353
It didn't take them long to decide they needed to wipe out Poles too.

>> No.15948998

>>15947383
The concept of race was different to the modern interpretation.

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>>15941920
I wonder why people think the Nazis had a concept of subhumans, "under men" if you will.

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>>15949443
Ah yes, the Americans also considered the Germans literal monkeys (which made up like 1/4 of American ancestry)
Even I were to entertain your laughable brainwashing on this topic, you're using what you ostensibly think is a propaganda poster as some overriding force to everything else presented including official handbooks and legislation. Imagine if the roles were switched
But also, that is from an SS publication. Nowhere in the booklet is there anything about Slavs or Russians being subhuman, nor are they denigrated. Rather it talks about the suffering of these people under Judeo-Bolshevism/Communism.
https://archive.is/DnJhT#selection-776.0-776.1

>> No.15949544

>>15948998
Not really. Race was just used in several contexts. People spoke of both the Anglo-Saxon/British race, and the Aryan/White race. Same word different context somewhat different meaning. If it were up to me we would use subspecies for race as we think of today, and maybe ethnicity for ethnic groups e.g. Japanese vs Koreans.

>> No.15949545

>>15949538
>Even I were to entertain your laughable brainwashing on this topic, you're using what you ostensibly think is a propaganda poster as some overriding force to everything else presented including official handbooks and legislation. Imagine if the roles were switched
What do you mean? If you want to point to race purity laws similar to the Nuremburg Laws in the Soviet Union you're free to do so. Also I'm confused as to why the Nazis were so obsessed with depicted Jews and other races as degenerates in their state created propaganda campaigns if they never believed that degenerates existed, was it just satire of themselves or something? Is this the level of delusion you need to maintain lmao

>> No.15949564

>>15949545
>What do you mean? If you want to point to race purity laws similar to the Nuremburg Laws in the Soviet Union you're free to do so
What does this have to do with subhumans? The Nuremberg laws considered all ethnic Europeans Aryan. When they argue against race mixing e.g. in OP book, it doesn't talk about superiority, inferiority, or subhumans
>Anyone belonging to a non-German or related race is considered a member of a foreign race according to law and according to general usage. For this reason, the racial outlook on life of National Socialism is frequently misunderstood. People insist on finding in this racial outlook on life haughtiness and intolerance. To do so is fundamentally false, however. We reject the idea of race-mixing first, because the hybrid produced by the mixing is a sacrifice to such a nature. For "during his life he is a split personality in his racial makeup. Without a home he stands between two peoples and does not know in his soul whether he belongs to the one or to the other." In short, he is an unfortunate, restless creature. In the second place, we believe that races receive their different natures in order to develop them and not to mix them. In this connection, we have already stated that we see in racial differences no real differences in quality, but rather differences in kind. Therefore, we will preserve the race of Germans in its true character and guard it against false mixing
>if they never believed that degenerates existed
Of course degenerates exist, as I'm sure you agree. But this was universal to all races. In a speech Goebbels said
>subhumans exist in every people as a leavening agent
But even this was not official NSDAP vernacular

>> No.15949585

>>15949564
The relevance of OP's book is meaningless to the point you're trying to make, which is that the Nazis weren't racist.
>The Nuremberg laws considered all ethnic Europeans Aryan
With the exception of Jews obviously
>nooooo a group of people that existed in Europe for thousands of years isn't ethnically European
Sure man, similarly Hungarians aren't ethnically European I guess then.
>Anyone belonging to...
Does not explain why there would be any punishment for being Jewish in Germany aside from not being able to racemix, or various propaganda posters produced specifically targeted at denigrating Jews and never to uphold the standard of a non-degenerate Jew, which should logically exist if what you are saying is true

>> No.15949604

>>15949585
>The relevance of OP's book is meaningless to the point you're trying to make, which is that the Nazis weren't racist.
Nope. That's not the point I'm trying to make. Simply correcting you with respect to NSDAP thought. Sure they were "racist" in that they discriminated on the basis of race e.g. Nuremberg laws
>nooooo a group of people that existed in Europe
You may find this hard to believe, but this thought was prevalent everywhere. They were often regarded as "Eastern" i.e. Arab. Genetically they cluster about half way between Europeans and Arabs, as that's what they are. Remarkable considering how long they wandered through Europe, yet still managed to maintain much of their racial character. What's more is they don't consider themselves white (when it's convenient).
>Does not explain why there would be any punishment for being Jewish in Germany aside from not being able to racemix, or various propaganda posters produced specifically targeted at denigrating Jews and never to uphold the standard of a non-degenerate Jew, which should logically exist if what you are saying is true
They talk about Jews at length in various parts. Notably it says that Jews are members of the German Reich, but are not German (as they aren't Aryan) and thus are not German citizens. Germany was not civic nationalist. It also talks about their negative and ubiquitous influence on the German nation as a group (no one would ever be stupid enough to say every single one, not seriously).

>> No.15950082 [DELETED] 

>>15949585
>With the exception of Jews obviously
jews aren't european, israel is in asia, not europe

>> No.15950813

The word racism was intvented by some comunist jewish guy wasn't it?
As a way to label groups trying to protect their own people as bad.

>> No.15950952

>>15950813
Trotsky.

>> No.15951614

>>15950952
yeah, was it him?

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>> No.15951790

>>15936062
Nazis were controlled oppositions
Thats why they included everyone in the Aryan race

>> No.15951856

>>15951790
All Europeans have "Aryan" i.e. PIE/Steppe admixture. With a general North-South gradient. Peaking in Scandinavia and the Baltics are over 50%.

>> No.15952028

>>15951856
>All Europeans have "Aryan" i.e. PIE/Steppe admixture

Just beacuse you have white skin doesn't mean you are aryan and small noses,blue eyes

Orignal aryans all have blond hairs
Romans woth black hair and roman noses mixed with them to create the mutt-white that exist today


They have done this Left-Right cycle,a few dozen times in history.
1.Push anti-marriage propaganda to decrease white-blond birth rate
2.Import immigrants of lower races to white-blond-majority demographics
3.Push race mixing propanga until enough mutts are created and people are fed-up of diversity.
4.Redfine who counted "white".
5.Now push conservatism and strict marriage laws to normalise mutt production

Each time a cycle is completed in history ,white blond genes will get devolved a little bit and
the definition of who is white will undergo downgradation a little bit.

>> No.15952029

>>15952028
>>15951856
>>15951790
4chan purpose was to create a white identity by constantly posting about how "white race" is under attack from Jews.
In this way a common feeling of "white identity will be generated among mutts and blondes alike.


They are pushing "anti-white" and black/white race mixing ,anti-semitism so openly, because they want to federalise europe,based on a 'white identity'.They want to make the blond-blue-eyed racial identity merely skin deep.

Notice how many times chat gpt bots repeat "jews want to kill WHITES", "jews hate WHITES", "replace WHITES", "WHITE countries",
"WHITES WHITES WHITES"....

Current WHITES with black hair are the result of mixing original blond Germanic races with inferior dark haired Roman races
Pure European races will be forced to live with black-mixed european races like Spain,Roman-mixed races like Italy,Greeks,mongol-mixed Slavic races,Arabs,Turks.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_for_the_Mediterranean

They don't actually want black/white mixing
Because children produced won't fit in very good with white society

What they actually want is blond Germanic whites to mix with dark featured whites
In this way produced children will be indistingishable from actual whites and will result in faster mixing
This will wipe out the already non-existent pure European genes.
This the reason Erasmus programme sent young people accross Europe.
Most of the "nazi" ,"bbc" ,"Jewish shill" posters are bots designed to create this 'white identity'..

>> No.15952067

>>15952029

I agree partly with this.
I've always been suspicious of the "white" narrative, I see it as a weapon to erase my own unique culture into some weird amorphous nonsense like amerimutts suffer from.

We are labelled by our enemies like this, I'd rather use my own language and cultural identity.

>> No.15952977

>>15952067
You can be both Aryan (European) and Italian or Slovak or something. Why is this a point of tension?

>> No.15953670 [DELETED] 

>>15952029
>oy vey its a conspiracy!! 4chan is out to get me!!

>> No.15954777

>>15938639
great argument

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>>15952028
>and the definition of who is white will undergo downgradation a little bit.

>> No.15957173 [DELETED] 

>>15950082
TSMT
jews wish they were white, but they're Asians

>> No.15957596 [DELETED] 

>>15945636
>science is real except when it contradicts my political points of view
>t. libtard stereotype everywhere

>> No.15957610 [DELETED] 

I think that accurate when they were saying the jesuits promoted miscegenation in Paraguay.

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>>15955672

>> No.15959107 [DELETED] 

>>15936582
good quote

>> No.15960785

>>15957173
what'd i miss?

>> No.15961504 [DELETED] 

>>15958394
Excellent article in ur picrel

>> No.15961541

>>15936077
not perfectly. these 6 races are based on physical anthropology rather than molecular methods, which were not available at the time.

they knew somewhat about those groups you mentioned from three sources
>patterns in physical anthropology, e.g. skull shape by region
>connections to archeology: e.g. skull shape in grave sites, and the type fo artifacts found there
>linguistics: they had figured out the Indo-European language group, which points to some kind of big migration
but the groups they define are largely derived from physical anthropology alone
>>15936100
>the MODERN understanding
hardly. where do you think the term “Caucasian race” came from in the first place? look at the map again.
>>15936097
>>15944883
trannies mad

>> No.15961699

>>15961504
Yah incogman's website was a goldmine but unfortunately no longer exists. It is still in the web archives though

>> No.15963303 [DELETED] 

>>15958394
>visicalc being racist
fk u steve jobs

>> No.15965079 [DELETED] 

>>15958394
>visicalc being racist
thank u steve jobs

>> No.15965463 [DELETED] 

>>15936062
since when could you upload a fucking pdf in a post?

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>>15936062
>How scientifically accurate is this Hitler Youth Handbook from 1938
None, Nazi "Race Science" was made up as they went along. Hence Stalin being described as a "lost aryan blood type" in 1942 or the belief that the Western Turks of central Asia had partially Aryan souls.

>> No.15965626

>>15965570
Sir, you are confused. Here were are looking and primary sources, and what they actually said.
Not what your post-war book written by a kind Jewish gentleman tells us.

>> No.15966039

>>15965463
since about a decade ago

>> No.15967444 [DELETED] 

>>15965463
Watch out for the PDFs newfag, trannys use them to post CP by hiding the CP on the pages of the PDF which don't appear in the thumbnail.

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>>15965570
>jewish race science: jew bitch whore fucks anything and the child is jewish
and now you know why jews have negro style fat lips and curly hair

>> No.15969697

>>15958394
>2017: liberal PC nonsense just doesn't cut the mustard

>>15955672
>2024: this violent negro criminal is white

>> No.15971324

>>15969697
so much narrative shift in only 7 years

>> No.15971388

>>15936062
Does anyone else clicked in this topic because the inverted McDonalds color scheme of the book's cover? It's as effective as if it had boobs on it

>> No.15972129 [DELETED] 

>>15941119
lmao shlomo owns your cuck family nazi troon.

>> No.15972186

>>15936097
yes it's fuzzy around the edges but most of the time you can be quite certain. You can determine a person's race and sex from their skeleton alone, no matter how much you relativists try to insist "nothing's real man, who cares man"

>> No.15973223 [DELETED] 

>>15936097
>its too hard to scientifically define race
no it isn't

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>>15936333
>Canary Islands
Uh, Scientists... explain?

>> No.15975106 [DELETED] 

>>15973227
atlantis

>> No.15976682

>>15973227
that whole area is a large mid ocean plateau that was mostly submerged after the great deluge at the end of the ice age

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>>15936062
I wonder how Phallic I am?

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>>15973227
>Southeast Asia
Uh, Scientists... explain?

>> No.15978530

>>15936062
Its probably better than whatever cuck'd version of history they're teaching in schools today

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>>15936062
eliminating tranny literature was an easier task back then before electronic media

>> No.15980290

hitler was based

>> No.15980296

>>15936097
Who can go live in Israel under the law of return? Should I tell them race is too hard to define and they'll let me in?

>> No.15980397

>>15936100
map doesn't show doggerland or extent of ice sheet

>> No.15981952

>>15980397
The Yamnaya are so late in history that those are not an issue. Doggerland was submerged thousands of years before the Yamnaya culture existed

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>>15979150

>> No.15982618

>>15936097
It’s actually very easy: you are half a male parent and half a female parent. Everything else is filler rambling as much as it is the Nazi concept of spirit.
But you people don’t understand gender so here we are.

>> No.15984202

>>15982507
lol

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>>15982507
yeah all of muh book burnings were gay and tranny "philosophy". we should have another one today.

>> No.15985137

>>15973227
How come the Guanches don't get reparations for being genocided? How come the jews are the only victims of genocide who ever get reparations?

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>>15985137

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>>15973227

>> No.15987834

>>15986654
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_mh3xQnMWQ

>> No.15989658

>>15976682
There must be all sorts of submerged Atlantean archeology in the shallow waters surrounding the islands

>> No.15989766

>>15936062
Are there more like this?

>> No.15990292

>>15989766
More like what? Other Hitler Youth Handbooks?

>> No.15990362

>>15938683
>this trite

I heard jews are supposed to have high verbal IQs

>> No.15991394

>>15990292
old book on group differences from a more clear thinking age

>> No.15992293 [DELETED] 

>>15991394
*old book

I remember Carleton S. Coon's books

>> No.15992296

>>15991394
*old books
I know of Carleton S. Coon's books but are there others that are worth being aware of?
Or papers and journals, I think Galton edited a journal on it but I don't remember the name

>> No.15992300

>>15936097
>very different species like cows and ants are clearly different types of organisms,
How?

>> No.15993197

>>15992300
cows have less legs

>> No.15993433

>>15993197
not all ants have to have more than 4 legs

>> No.15993779

>>15936097
Scientifically it is very easy to define races.

>> No.15993889

>>15936062
The Nazis didn't know how to explain to their fanatics that the first recorded empires were in the Middle East, so they invented a story that the foundations of the Babylonian and Persian empires were founded by Nordic settlers (who for some reason wanted the empire there and not in Europe) and then in the process of interbreeding with the locals, degeneration was created. This kind of pedagogy is not only impossible to verify, it also makes no sense

>> No.15994663 [DELETED] 

>>15993433
yes they do

>> No.15994674

>>15993889
Don't see this anywhere in the book.

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>>15993889
do you always just make things up on the Internet or only here? pic rel was known long before the nazis ever came to power

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>>15993889
something that we now know for a fact in the modern day. try again dune coon

>> No.15994749

>>15936062
Europe is composed mostly of a mix of two groups.
Western steppe herders who spread the indo european languages and early european farmers who came from the middle east and spread farming throughout Europe.
in general the further north you go the more steppe ancestry there is and the further south the more farmer ancestry.
there are other groups which also had minor impact like east and west hunter gatherers.

>> No.15995791 [DELETED] 

>>15994749
Europeans are endemic to Europe, theres a record of continuous human or ancestral human habitation in Europe that goes back hundreds of thousands of years.

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>>15994749

>> No.15996833

>>15995805
Turks are not Europeans, they're displaced Asian steppe dwellers

>> No.15996845

>>15938683
holohoax was debunked years ago

>> No.15996849

>>15996833
anatolians werent turks half wit

>> No.15997432

>>15936062
Nazis were alwya controlled opposition
This is whhy none of the top brass of Nazi have blond hairs and every fucling one of them is somehow related to jews

The original "white race" has blond hair and blue eyes

They are forcefully mixed throught the centuries and finally we have this "white race" which is just another word for mutts

>> No.15997528

>>15997432
>Nazis were alwya controlled opposition
>This is whhy none of the top brass of Nazi
You meann the ones who either killed themselves or died in prison to the last men fighting for the cause? Look at the big brain on this anon. I know if someone wants to join their conspiracy the biggest selling point will be that I will be dead in a decade, kill;ed by the people I am working for, for my good work!

>> No.15997581

>>15997528
Nazis were controlled opposite who tried to include the mixed white in the Aryans races

Original Aryanhave tall,blond ,blue eyes and small noses like Gauls of Germanyc or Gaunches

These tribes were forcefull with mixed the blakc race to form what we call "white races"

Gauls mixed Rome
Gaunches mixed with Spaniards

>> No.15998119

>>15997581
>Nazis were controlled opposition
Yeah, this was also my conclusion
the whole fascism thing seems to have been a weird psyop cooked up by tavistock

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>>15998119
Most of what history books say about the 1930 & 1940s in Europe never happened. History is written by the victors and the victors in this case have a well known habit of fabricating history

>> No.15999046

>>15998969
have you read about Hitler's nephew?

>> No.16000229 [DELETED] 

>>15993433
yes they do

>> No.16001508 [DELETED] 

>>15971324
seems desperate
like they were trying the frog boiling technique, but the frogs started to notice so they turned up the heat real fast

>> No.16001525

>>15936097
>its too hard to scientifically define race, everyone just goes with the literal social constructions they have learned from childhood. All biological classifications are always fuzzy and subjective
Anti-science race denial.

>> No.16001541

>>15938683
>get sent to the gulag or get zyklon'd
/x/-tier fantasy slop

>> No.16001561

>>16001541
>>get sent to the gulag or get zyklon'd
https://holocaustencyclopedia.com/

>> No.16001642

>>15998969
This.
>>16001561
lol

>> No.16003280

>>15999046
Whatever was written is probably fake af, just like everything written about Hitler is

>> No.16003288

>>16003280
>William Patrick Stuart-Houston
Adolf apparently visited them while he was visiting england to attend the tavistock institute

>> No.16004157

>>16003288
that never happened

>> No.16004354 [DELETED] 

>>15936062
Bumping this thread because fuck Jews and jannies.

>> No.16005728

>>16004157
Lots of lies about Hitler have been circulated, its only the truth about him that gets covered up.

>> No.16006064

>>15936624
An oligarchy only requires few to rule over everyone else. In a plutocracy the few who rule must also be the most wealthy. Note that if they get their wealth after acquiring power they are just regular thieves, not proper plutocrats.

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>>15998969
oy vey

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>>16007380

>> No.16009673

>>15948432
is crystal dot cafe really 100% trannys?

>> No.16009686

>>16009673
I went there once, the ones that aren't trannys are probably female subhumans.
didn't feel like going back.

>> No.16010164

>>15952029
>pure European genes.
Lol
Lmao even

>> No.16011548

>>16007380
Some of the evidence of "the holocaust" provided by the Russians has already been proved fake by contradicting eyewitness accounts, for example in this video:

https://youtu.be/4-JM6ChF-Fw?t=275

Anne Frank's stepsister Eva Schloss explains how she knows the the Russians' films and photos of the liberation of Auschwitz are fakes and even got the Russian government to officially admit to having fraudulently staged that evidence. Since the Russians faked the liberation of Auschwitz, that calls into question the rest of their evidence, why would they fake the Auschwitz evidence and then use real evidence from the other so-called "death camps", all of which were in what was Russian territory. It seems more likely that they'd fake the evidence at the other camps the same way they did at Auschwitz

>> No.16012214 [DELETED] 

>>16011548
yeah it was just a coincidence that all of the rumored extermination were conveniently located in the russian sector where nobody other than russians were witness to them.
russian are super trustworthy, they would never lie about anything related to politics

>> No.16012361

>>16012214
>why were all the extermination camps closest to the highest concentration of people the Nazis wanted to eradicate
Damn I don't know you got me

>> No.16013634 [DELETED] 

>>16012214
>Russians lie about everything except the holocaust, for some reason or other the Russians would never lie about that.
>The same evil deceptive Russian who produced antisemitic forgeries such as The Protocols of the Elders of Zion would never ever lie about the holocaust, Russians consider that to be sacred or something because reasons and stuff
this is what jews actually expect you to believe

>>16012361
Sure, thats why Anne Frank was shipped all the way from Holland to Eastern Poland, 750 miles, in order to eliminated her even though the Germans has dozens of more conveniently located camps.

>> No.16014321

>>16013634
This isn't the slam dunk you think it is anon
The reason what you just said makes sense is that Auschwitz was a death camp

>> No.16014982

Wasn't frank shipped to bergen belsen where she eventually died of disease?

As far as I'm aware the germans mostly just had a transportation and holding policy without any genocidal agenda despite propaganda claiming they did.
all I've ever found reliable were talks of where to deport them

>> No.16016247

>>15936062
>p28
>All arguments and political demands, which are founded on the belief in the
power of environment, are therefore false and weak. We have already said that
many changes are damaging or unfavorable. We know of some of the cases in
which injuries to the germ plasm have occurred. For example, injuries have come about because of X-rays, the misuse of alcohol, sexual diseases. This knowledge
comes to us from experiments, which have often meant the sacrifice of life itself.

>> No.16016935

>>16007380
the science deniers on this board will see that and still insist on claiming the "gas chambers" lie is real.

>> No.16018108

>>16016935
Never seen him in a Hollywood movie.

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>>16018108
Theres a lot of things you'll never see in a Hollywood movie

>> No.16019626

>>15936062
Excellent PDF, thanks for sharing