/sci/ - Science & Math

When does /sfg/ actually think a Starlink payload will first happen?

>>15936571
IFT3

>>15936571
maybe flight 4 (testing a flight going to actual orbit) if flight 3 is about testing cryo fuel transfer

>>15936571
If everything goes well next flight I don't see why it couldn't be in the flight after that.

Rocket Report: Vulcan stacked for launch; Starship aces test ahead of third flight
--
https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/12/rocket-report-electron-and-new-shepard-return-to-flight-uk-spaceport-gets-ok/

Small Rockets
> Ranking the top 10 US launch companies of 2023.
> New Shepard finally flies again.
> Electron successfully returns to flight.
> Shetland approved for UK launches.
> iSpace finally returns a payload to orbit.
> Chinese firm raises significant funding.
> NASA says RDE engine test a success.
> Latitude unveils plan for evolved Zephyr rocket.

Medium Rockets
> Mixed progress on Ariane 6 tests.

Heavy Rockets
> ULA sale bidders confirmed.
> China's largest rocket lofts spy satellite
> SpaceX completes Starship static fire.
> Vulcan is stacked for launch.

Firefly is just staying silent on their upper stage failure.
What pitiful faggots they are. Their company isn't public and their customers will know anyway so there is no benefit to not being truthful

>>15936587
Stoke is better

>>15936588
Yes obviously. So is Relativity who actually dare to say the words make life multiplanetary.
Rocketlab and Firefly seem to have as their highest ambition getting USSF contracts.

>>15936593
at least rocketlab launches successful rockets

wikipedia wouldn't lie

> Jefferies LLC, a financial advisory company, previously estimated that ULA would fetch $2 billion to $3 billion in a sale. A deal could be announced after the launch of the Vulcan rocket in January.
lmaoo
reminder that SpaceX got valued at $180 billion in its latest secondary stock sale (people owning the stock like employees and investors able to sell to other private parties)

>>15936610
The company has no future, I have no idea why BO would buy it considering Vulcan would end up being worthless if New Glenn flies.

https://spacenews.com/nasa-report-studies-options-for-a-future-national-laboratory-in-orbit-after-iss/

https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/models-for-facilitating-government-funded-act-anonymous-with-intro-tagged2.pdf

> The model that scored the best, in terms of being favorable across all market scenarios, was one called “Government Research Broker” where NASA serves as a broker for arranging flights of experiments on CLDs or other commercial spacecraft, an approach the study compared to NASA’s Launch Services Program for acquiring launches.
> The report adds that there may not explicitly be a national laboratory in LEO once the ISS is retired, depending on the model selected for supporting research in LEO. “The National Laboratory nomenclature may be completely removed from legislation, or the intent of a National Laboratory may transition to a new model in a post-ISS LEO ecosystem that lacks a government-owned platform,” it states.

>>15936617
BO would be buying it for the engineers and contracts. Honestly I don't think they're going to. Bezos seems to have been trying to get the company back on track

>>15936623

>>15936610
Valuations are frequently based on the future revenue potential of the corporation in question and the resulting demand for their stock. SpaceX is both a telecommunications company and a transportation company, and they're likely to be a major player in the former and completely dominant for commercial and US government Earth to Orbit transportation services.

>>15936617
>>15936625
Buying ULA gets BO's foot in the door on NSSL launches, brings the bulk of Kuiper launches back "in house", and removes a major competitor entirely.

>>15936581
>Two minutes after the ignition of the stage’s Vinci engine the test was automatically aborted after sensors detected that “some parameters had gone beyond predetermined thresholds.” ArianeGroup is currently investigating the reason for the early abort. The ESA statement explained that the investigation would be completed by mid-January 2024

At this rate China's going to complete one of its Falcon 9 clones before Europe gets Ariane 6 off the pad.

>>15936607
>"Fly the Lightning"
how can anyone take a motto this gay serious?

>>15936632
Getting ~20 big national security launches as well as being a shoe-in for a Lane 2 spot with NSSL-3 is a steal for $2-3B.

>>15936640
Try Relativity's "GLHF" (Good Luck Have Fun)

>>15936640
The Lightning (engine) didn't fly so well

https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1738308818805641262

Booster 10 fucked?

>>15936670
Your momma got fucked

>>15936588
I want to like Stoke but their rocket is still too small
God I wish there was a second launch company with balls

>>15936670
it's ogre

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoFxTTC-tm0
its over.

>>15936682
Theyre going fully reusable nigger what more do you want from a small company

I hate the ariane 6 so god damn much it's unreal.

>>15936687

>>15936693
What is this plebbit tier meme go the fuck back you dumb retard nigger

>>15936691
If Stoke's rocket works and the QI memedrive works Astra will have literally no justification to continue existing.
>xenon thrusters and fully expendable rockets

>>15936696
>he says posting thunderfag off topic bait
lmao HAHA

>>15936682
They haven't published any official payload figures yet, just that it's more than 2 tons and maybe more than 5 tons. For something that's fully reusable from the start and looks like it's playing with the idea of refueling in orbit from other upper stages, that's more than enough capacity for most commercial missions.

>>15936634
Tianlong 3 is still planned for June
A6 is planned for NET mid June
This may be possible (well, if Tianlong 3 isn't a scam)

>>15936700
They actually have
>3 tons fully reusable
>5 tons partially reusable
>7 tons fully expendable

>>15936623
Good, we don't need one unless it's something that actually needs to be huge like an artificial gravity station.

Describe a launch system or spacecraft with a Spongebob still.

>SLS

>>15936701
We're going to see something tested in the next twelve months. Tianbing seems to have a lot more behind the scenes weirdness going on than your average Chinese space startup, but Tianlong-2 did work. If they are a scam they seem to be a reasonably competent one.

As for Ariane 6, that June launch date is dependent on their second stage issues not needing any major corrections to fix.

Max-Qute!

>>15936755
It's ugly

>still no firefly tweet
clownish behavioir. it's already apparent it failed otherwise you would have confirmed a successful insertion in the last 4 hours

>>15936699
I didnt post thunderthighs link you fucking moron dedditor GO BACK NOW YOU ARE A FUCKING SCUM NIGGER PIECE OF SHIT YOU DIDNT EVEN DENY THE LEDDIT ACCUSATION

>>15936721
True but go back troon YWNBAW

>>15936762
yikes

>Aeon R: How Engines are Manufactured at Relativity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVI-w_aAW6Y

>>15936769
rocketlab bagholding piggies are currently revolving at spinlaunch velocities in order to justify why their engine won't full duration hotfire before Q4 2024

>>15936769

>>15936779
dios mio

>>15936779
>>15936782
i thought she was cute and polite and informative

>>15936779
Rocket Lab has objectively the worst girls in aerospace industry.

>>15936789
and who has the best ones

>>15936793
SpaceX of course

>>15936779
Kyle Rittenhouse through a sex change filter

>>15936563
>>15936670
neocolonialism much!?

>>15936789
Astra does. At least Rocketlab girls don't have penises.

>>15936805
Colonialism is based.

https://twitter.com/SERobinsonJr/status/1738306555324346865

>>15936817
Based on what?

>>15936819
>that wall of text
how much of an elon fangoy can you possibly be?

Taking a long time for Firefly to put out a statement. I wonder if damage control is trying to figure out how to acknowledge this failure without acknowledging that flight 2 failed for the same reason, rather than a total success.

>>15936819
https://twitter.com/SERobinsonJr/status/1738309142782071163

>>15936824
Maybe they can crib one of Chris Kemp's statements from LV0008 or LV0010.

>>15936824
>implying they'll put out a statement
lol. looks more like they'll cut lockheeb a deal and pretend like nothing happened

>>15936831
I hate the way these things look. they look so ugly.. that heat shield is such dead weight too, what happened to bare stainelsss steel?

>>15936834
certified faggot

>15936834

https://twitter.com/NASA/status/1738270766410416191

https://twitter.com/thejackbeyer/status/1738258914725278032

>>15936842
Sex with Jasmin and Laurel

>>15936845
Loral

>>15936847
Loreal Paris

>>15936847
sex with jasmin and oral with loral

r8 relativity's women

>>15936862
remarkably bad.
i wonder how spacex manages to have great looking women like jessie or kate or that booba starbase one in high level engineering positions

>>15936870
>great looking women
>jessie

>>15936874
>he doesnt want to fuck the flipino-black-latina-white queen of spaceflight

>>15936762
Racism

>>15936892
Cuckoldry

>>15936870
I only swear by gwynne

>>15936894
nuclear thermal rocket

>>15936682

>>15936881
when i saw that HOOKER on the livestream for the first time instead of insprucker I was livid. my blood was boiling.

just passing through

>>15936862
Black poofy jacket is a bitch but a absolute freak in bed (she will rim your asshole without asking) I can tell

>>15936916
you are gay

>>15936670
was the leaker telling the truth?
is it really over?

>>15936916
Ew, gross.

>>15936916
based
i thought the same

>>15936670
looks like the jawas are out to salvage Starship

A SpaceX insider told me Booster 10 gained sentience and chose not to static fire. A SpaceX insider told me.

How do we defend ourselves from sentient ICBMs?

>>15936862

3hr to 19th flight of a booster, first time

>>15936945
Niggertree

b10 just fucking popped
its over
ITS OVER

>>15936946

>>15936945
wake me up when it decides to self-destruct

happy holidays sfg!

>>15937004
Merry Christmas, heathen

>>15937004
Fuck off kikeniggerjew

If you say Happy Holidays you are jewish.
>inb4 chud
Yes. I. Am.

>>15936862
>token minorities
I cannot wait until the dei bullshit dies

>>15937011
I am :)

>>15937004
<3

A little birdey told me OFT-3 indefinitely delayed until March. A new booster must be built, issues revealed in the recent test...

>>15937021
post froyo

>>15937022
I so so wish I was wrong friend

>>15937021
I ate a little birdie once. Birds are delicious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkrUuxvKmxU

>>15937028
Die namenigger offtopic kikejew

>>15936831
After Starship what is the next stage of space technology? Nuclear powered ships?

>>15937039
cryo sleep unironically. gotta get to the other planets somehow

>>15937041
*other solar systems I mean

>>15937039
Nuclear electric ships with quantized inertia thrusters.

A meteor just crossed 3 states here in Brazil. It was kino

>>15937039
you mean step change?
after starship there is going to be refinement on starship, maybe a bigger version and so on which are going to bring the cost down incrementally
there might not really be a fundamental change from rapidly, fully reusable chemical rockets to get mass to orbit
but what happens when you are in orbit already has much more experimentation to do
chemical works, but then you have all kinds of electric thrusters which haven't been explored that much, propellantless stuff like solar sails, maybe magnetic/electric sails or whatever, different types of fission powered stuff
fusion perhaps, not sure if fusion has good enough TWR for ground-to-orbit stuff though even theoretically
after that its questionable scifi stuff, fusion seems like it will work eventually maybe, always 10 years away
oh yeah and then you could augment the efficiency of chemical rockets to get stuff to orbit with some pretty expensive infrastructure maybe

>>15937039
Long term lifesupport. Once you get a long term lifesupport, someone rich can fly a Starship across the same orbit as the earth around the sun, and survive for decades.

Found this weird button mushroom looking rog while exploring Pol. May just have to bring Valentina there so I can have sex with her on it.

>>15937081
execute her on that rock

>>15937086
You are a very sick man.

>>15937090
karate kick valentina off a mushroom looking rock on another planet
total kerbal death

just watched the new senpai episode
holy FRICK do you think they will pull the heist off?

>>15937100
I only watch hardcore porn

>>15937100
>the new senpai episode

>>15937110
don't laugh

>>15937111

tfw even the "initial growth phase" for Space Station Freedom was cooler than the "baseline plus half of Mir 2 and some more solar panels" we got

>>15937123
>we will NEVER get a jamestown irl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqiHjdzRMYY
T-60:00
19th reflight coming up

>>15937100
My PC is on the fritz so I haven't pirated any of the new season yet.

>>15937156
its good so far
crazy but good

>>15937157
>>15937156
Shut the fuck up offtopic niggers

>>15937159
>he doesn't watch THE spaceflight show

>>15937157
its goyslop
and you are low IQ

>>15937162
anyone that says goyslop is a midwit

>>15937161
its shit

I'd like to see a new voyager type of mission. We should really test our ability to go further.

>>15937163
full of strong women, black people and faggots which take half of the runtime

>>15937100
Purchase an advertisement

>>15937169
New Horizons doesn't count?

>>15937127
T-15:00

/sfg/ - Shutthe Fuckup General

https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1yoKMwgBayoJQ

>>15937127
T-5:00

>>15937177
Sneed's Feed & Geed

>>15937127
Blow up, blow up, blow up, blow up, blow up, blow up
This fucker better be in pieces on the drone ship

LAUNCH

>>15937202
NIGGERFRUIT

MECO. 19 successful reflights yooooo.
now time for 19 successful landings out of a single booster

>>15937209
both stages norminal

>>15937169
With Starship and LEO refueling we will be able to go further.
Apart from that, the outer planets have moved out of position to do the series of swing-by manuevers that the Voyagers did. This is why we'Re not going bakc to Uranus or Neptune, and why going to Saturn requires specific launch windows.

come on back booster

HE

LANDED

good job

>>15937192
I have been btfo

19 reuses
how many before they get a failure

>>15937127
solid landing

PLAP PLAP PLAP GET REUSED GET REUSED

>>15937229
never
they'll send em off to the Smithsonian before that

>>15937229
I'm pretty sure this is thier face every launch now.

that single booster has launched more than all Long March 3Cs ever

Fuck yurop and fuck hohols

>>15937237
>>15937236
The last one gets loaded up with bombs instead of an upper stage and dropped on Biden's vacation house.

https://twitter.com/Firefly_Space/status/1738435542570705110

Today, Firefly’s Alpha launch had a successful liftoff & progressed seamlessly through each stage of flight, including MECO, stage separation, fairing separation and the first SECO. Alpha’s scheduled stage 2 engine relight did not deliver the payload to its precise target orbit. Communications to the spacecraft has been established and mission operations are now underway. Read more here

https://fireflyspace.com/missions/fly-the-lightning/

>>15937239
>random zigger starts bitching again
hows the two week operation going?

>>15937246

>>15937242
oh noooooo

anyways

>>15937242
What is it with these newspace small rockets and unreliable upper stages?

>>15937249
staging is hard plz understand

>>15937249
Both of SpaceX's high profile failures were due to the upper stage and Ship 25 failed late in the burn. Upper stages get everybody's goat.

>In the eight years since the company first propulsively recovered an orbital class rocket, no one else has done so even once. SpaceX has done it over 250 times.
krausboi

>>15937249
More difficult to test i guess

another clear stream before bed :)
gn'ight /sfg/
see you in 7hrs for the next launch

>>15937255
lmao ok bud, it was done multiple times in the 90s, and Blue Origin has done is a bunch of times as well
>inb4 cope

https://brycetech.com/briefing
can't wait for q4

>>15937268
and F9 is just a 1950s redstone rocket with some shit bolted to it too eh?

>>15937271
goalpost moved

>>15937268
Missed the words "orbital class rocket;" that's SpaceX's qualifier to distinguish their launch vehicle from everyone else's tech demos.

>>15937255
Next rocket to propulsive land will be Starship

>>15937295
lol probably right. one of the chinky startups might do it soon though?

>>15937296
Maybe

>>15937004
It's Merry Christmas, in the state of Texas.

I am now demoralized and convinced that space force pulled some strings to delay FH to put more spook tech on the spook orbiter

>Fly the Lightning
Wtf were they thinking. It's like naming your launch "Obviously a Major Malfunction"

Consider the following:
Sex with Val on Vall

>>15937341

>>15937343
Is this stock? It actually looks pretty good, I dunno what people were kvetching about

>>15937343
>>15937341
>>15937353
Fuck of Kike Shill Program nigger YWNGTS

>>15937353
Yes, it's stock but also max settings and I take screen shots selectively.
>>15937356
GETTING LAID ON LAYTHE

>be amerishart
>clap when plane lands
>be amerishart
>clap when rocket takes off or lands
why are they like this??

>>15937374
Nobody does this

>>15937358
Last one for now. Blackrack knocked it out of the park with these effects.

>latest SENPAI episode
X GON GIVE IT TO YA

I have already sent feedback asking for more jannies. Im tired of all you faggots, I hope they do a new hiring spree so whatever tranitor comes in to power deals with you fags.

>>15937039
>>15937049
Plasma Magnetic sails probably

>>15936721

Damn.

>>15937126
>50% of base is hallways
>>15937161
I've already seen it

Pretend this linked to Child Porn

>>15937100
It's just cheap melodrama. It has nothing to do with space.

>>15937169
Yes, interstellar Probe please

>"I cry at every single launch."

Does it happen to you as well?
https://x.com/BBCr4today/status/1738482516539977807?s=20

>>15937556
No because I don't work on it

>>15937327
>"Obviously a Major Malfunction"
sounds like a culture ship name

>>15937498
Lol, so the boring company is a prerequisite

>>15937039
Electric Starship seems like the next and only rational step for SpaceX. Nuclear-thermal will be skipped over entirely due to the obvious regulatory headache it would cost Musk and it being less efficient than electric rockets anyway. And electric is needed for humans to reach the outer planets

It may be time for SpaceX to start developing something stronger than their argon hall-thruster

>>15937498
Hyperloop is a pussy solution anyway, give me a hard vacuum maglev train or don't bother

>>15937651
hard vacuum maglev train requires a maglev track the whole way and hard vacuum obviously more and better vacuumpumps
compared to a low pressure concrete tube
just fundamentally a very significant cost difference
in the very least you could have a intermediate speed solution with intermediate cost, perhaps you could have the highest speed possible with vacuum maglev, but then low air pressure hyperloop with the air bearings
and then just normal pressure loop with cars like they are doing in las vegas right now

>>15937242
>today, after a successful launch and liftoff...

>>15937039
ships built in space using materials delivered by starships would be my guess. probably using solar for now, with nuclear propulsion and power in the testing phases
Of course, if tape outgassing drives turn out to be real, the next step will be mass production of tape outgassing drives and seeing if they can achieve a TWR of more than 1 on their own

>>15937126
>those rings of flat solar panels on the roof
>of a SOUTH POLAR moon base
these people are clowns

SARAH launch delayed 24 hours

>>15936563
can someone tell me when this Quantum Inertia engine is gonna get tested. Also give a QRD on why it can/cant work

>>15937677
It's clearly in direct sunlight.

>>15937682
Eventually, and it can't work because everything in the universe obeys conservation laws. A QI engine promises constant acceleration without any commensurate change in the engine's performance. The universe does not seem to possess any preferred references frames, so there's no limiting factor. The scaling of kinetic energy goes up with the square of velocity, thus the energy output will eventually exceed the energy input, and a functional QI drive would constitute a free energy device. Since this does not conserve energy and all physics obeys conservation laws, it can't work.

>>15937651
Isn't that basically what hyperloop is?

>>15937699
The memedrive is designed as an open system, and so it is one of two things. If QI is correct it creates a pressure difference in Unruh radiation to act like a sail. If GR is correct it's a tiny Alcubierre drive.

New LED signs coming to Starbase.

>>15937699
>The universe does not seem to possess any preferred references frames
QI is sort of based on there being a preferred frame I would say

Conestoga 1:*wants to launch*
US Government:

>>15937779
Just a SpaceX sign.

>>15937807
hahahah. source?

>>15937819
https://ir.lawnet.fordham.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=1162&context=ilj&sei-redir=1

>>15937738
>If GR is correct it's a tiny Alcubierre drive.
If GR is correct momentum is conserved and it won't work at all.

Richard Mansell
@RaMansell
"Barry-1 is continuing to progress through LEOP at this time and we appreciate the hard work and great progress
@RogueSpaceCorp is making. Quantum Drive #QI testing has been postponed until January."

>>15936670
Oh shit

>>15937862
QI bros... i'm losing faith... tell me it will work...

>overpowered
When did NASA become such pussies?
Von Braun is rolling in his grave.

>>15937545

axiom station under construction

>>15937915

I'm surprised no small sat launcher startups have come out of southern France

>>15937916
>Axiom Space Partners with Kepler Space and Skyloom to Operationalize the World’s 1st Orbital Data Center
https://www.axiomspace.com/news/orbital-data-center

data centers in spaaaaaaaaace

>>15937918
*italy I mean
man I'm tired

https://twitter.com/Kemp/status/1738607160777486770

>>15937918
>euros
>any spirit of exploration
All those genes left Europe many decades ago. All that's left now is gypsy scams

>>15937918
Euros don't innovate, they only know how to regulate
They have no Google, no Amazon/AWS/Cloudflare, no SpaceX, no IBM, no Apple, all they have are trains and elevators, and I'll give them Airbus too since the A320 is 6 inches wider than the 737 thus comfier, fuck Boeing

>>15937920
>might be ready for customers in 2027
hmm maybe i'll drop them an inquiry

>>15937920
Real question, how do they deal with cooling?

>>15937956
iss radiators?

>>15937862
TWO
WEEKS

damn standard model
you fatt

where's the ftl particle

Relativity is gay as shit.

>>15937998
where is this? starbase?

>>15938000
Yes

>>15937998
>unnecessarily limiting overhead clearance
that shit's gonna bit them in the ass one of these days

>>15938007
It's a parking lot.

>>15938008
oh, then it's cool then

>>15938011
That sign is in the upper left corner.

>>15937987
why is there a gay faggot weeb version of this meme?
why does /a/utism ruin everything it touches?

>>15938020
Go back, poltroon

>>15938023
kys lgbtxister

>>15938020
That post was truly awful. It is painfully obvious that you do not belong here. But that is okay! There is a positive solution. Rather than trying to fit in, you should strongly consider going to a site more suitable for posters like you, such as reddit, tumblr, or maybe even Gaia! You have plenty of options. You will be happy, and we will be happy. Best of luck, but don't come back. Bye!

>>15938020
Ask Reddit

>>15937268
>propulsively recovered an orbital class rocket
Retard

>>15936819
>>15937920
>>15936581
When are we leaving this planet bros? I'm tired of all the delays, I want to explore the galaxy. What is taking so long?

>>15938066
you think this is bad wait till you see construction. projects can be delayed by decades.

>>15938066
Stop spamming

>>15937699
>The scaling of kinetic energy goes up with the square of velocity, thus the energy output will eventually exceed the energy input, and a functional QI drive would constitute a free energy device.

This makes sense to me, I’ve often thought about how a rocket engine’s energy output doesn’t correspond to the spacecraft’s KE. Still sucks and I want to believe. But It seems we can’t have nice things and QM is basically a worthless and useless curiosity. Nothing cool comes out of it.

>>15937998
10 vbux says that signs falls over next launch

>>15937998
They are missing half their A

>>15938158
birds took it

>>15937866
>YWN roll around the desert with all the lads in your mobile workshop/storage facility/communal home and scam/rob every human you meet
Just shoot me now

>>15938034
why are you talking to yourself?

>>15938218
That future is still within reach on Mars.

>>15938225
By the time it's feasible on Mars I intend to have transcended human form and left the solar system. At some point in the far future I'll have to manipulate events such that Jawa-analogues arise on a backwoods colony world so that I can cast a portion of my consciousness into one and have a grand old time.

>>15938230
OK reddit

>Moon has a Seething Bay

Where did everyone go?

>>15938328
My family for christmas

>>15938078
>QM is basically a worthless and useless curiosity. Nothing cool comes out of it.
Transistors are designed using QM

>>15937839
GR is incorrect because it's incompatible with QM

The Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation has charged the Deputy General Director of the Roscosmos state corporation Oleg Frolov and his two accomplices with fraud on an especially large scale, the press service of the Investigative Committee reports. In addition to Frolov, an individual entrepreneur and an employee of a commercial organization, whose names are not disclosed, are also involved in the case. They were arrested, the Investigative Committee noted.

According to investigators, Frolov, using his official position, entered into a criminal conspiracy with two other defendants, after which, while executing a contract for the purchase of equipment, they stole budget funds worth at least 435 million rubles.

Roscosmos confirmed that Oleg Frolov was detained. “Details relating to the charges and investigative measures in the criminal case are under the jurisdiction of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation,” the state corporation noted.

Earlier on December 22, the Basmanny Court of Moscow arrested the general director of the research and production enterprise Geophysics-Cosmos, Evgeny Fomichev, accused of fraud committed on an especially large scale. Whether the cases of Fomichev and Frolov are connected is not entirely clear.

>>15938353
The Y is bent. Fire whoever handled that shit.

>>15937169
Put together stirling RTGs, a laser communication array and a plasma magnetic sail system and you probably could. Unfortunately the next outer planets alignment isn’t til 2152

>>15938353
>>15938354
If you say it with a Y you sound like an aussie lol.

>>15938381
Without the Y it's just "gatewuh"

>>15938354
cannot unsee

>>15938158
The best part is no part

Testing

>>15938417
Seems to be working

>>15938418
>>15938417
What are you testing

>>15937039
musk mentioned having nuclear starships as well as pic rel.
this was all a long time ago though so plans may have changed

>>15937918
>>15937948
all competent euros leave to america
europe has a serious braindrain issue, they will never be competitive if they cannot retain their technical expertise

>>15937039
Starship Heavy.

>>15938425
European politicians don't even care about being competitive, they are actively working towards destroying this continent.

>>15937918
>Southern france
HyPrspace and Dark are near Bordeaux, former is starting to get decent sums from the army.
France's launcher industry has historically been more in the north, except for srbs, the south are satellites (Toulouse & Cannes)
>Southern Italy
With what industry lmao?
But avio technically counts as southern according to some.

>>15938486
I meant Northern Italy then
or whichever half has the tech sector

I think the /sci/ bump limit got increased. It used to be 250 right?

>>15937924
There’s Sidereus space in Salerno actually

>>15938497
Meds. Now.

>>15938543
Seriously though.

Will we see a large nuclear ION thruster with Starship or medium solar ION thruster with starship?

We know SpaceX has lot of knowhow with solar/ion drives with Starlinks, whats the next step for deep space Starship? 5 (3 outer, 2 inner) Raptor engines on Starship + 1 Ion engine at center?

Hold the fuck up
Since fucking when was the A stylized?

>>15938580
This never happened stop spreading disinformation chudbigot

https://x.com/kenkirtland17/status/1738764099851358566
Holy shit this is the worst zoomnigger cringe I've ever seen. Its even using jungle drum nigger beats in the background too.

>>15938588
OH
MY
S O Y ?
IS
THAT
A
HECKING
TWITTER POST???????

OH MY BAAAAAAAAAAAAASEDYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>>15937039
nuclear powered ships in trans orbital flights

so what does it actually do?

>>15938628
Most likely it's there to service and repair US military satellites. They don't contract out for that except for launch services so they need to operate their own vehicles.

>>15938628
Tests hardware that the NRO or whoever wants to get back for examination after the mission if finished. The Shuttle used to handle that job through it's air force parentage, but in 2004 Bush mandated that the shuttle only fly essential missions to finishing the ISS and then get retired. The military didn't want to lose that capability so they transferred the X-37 program from NASA to DARPA that same year.

>year is almost over
aside from starship, what were some of the more notable events of the year?

>>15938588
It's just your standard nigger worship, friend

>>15938659
BO's carnival ride exploding the one time they didn't have people on it

>>15938659
First methalox usage in the US with relativity right?

>>15938659
Stoke being the only other US company to announce active development for a fully reusable rocket (therefore Jarvis doesnt count). Vast was a breakout company that announved their official SpaceX Falcon flight to be the first station to space along with updates. Astra FINALLY broke and is now pivoting away from spacelaunch (BLM btw KEEEK). iSpace failed its landing but ISRO made India the 4th nation ever to succesfully land cargo on the moon. Russia failed to do the same even though theyve done it how many times before. That scam Orbital Reef basically got cancelled. ESA lost all active duty EU rockets because Avio somehow left theirs in the junkyard. More Axiom stuff, New Shepherd fucked up, ULA continues to fail upward along with BO and thats SpaceX lawsuit. No real chink news, I think thats about it.

>>15937041
>cryosleep
Wouldn't you just die from the accumulated radiation damage as your body isn't performing any cellular repair during the trip?

>>15938705
You'd obviously be shielded from cosmic radiation. As for radiation inherent to the body's minerals, that's so low that you can deal with it by routine wakeup breaks, to recover and check on the ship.

>>15937673
>seeing if they can achieve a TWR of more than 1 on their own
Just slap one in this stupid meme instead

>>15938659
Political games played by Biden admin with regards to SpaceX

https://twitter.com/GraviticsInc/status/1738622643266519495

Easily 30 people in a single straight line deck. With curved, it can be double that. Now imagine multiple decks.

100 people easily

>>15938588
Kek filtered

>>15938659
Tianlong-2 first private Chinese liquid fuel rocket to orbit
Zhuque-2 first methalox rocket to orbit

>>15938725
i woud fuck the shit out of thos girls

>>15938659
Starships
Year of methane rockets
Psyche?
Some failed companies

>>15938725
Where you gonna store everything those 100 people need retard. Huh? How you gonna get enough food up there.

Any updates? Have we unlocked FTL yet thanks to this man?

>>15938752
Stop namefagging

QI is real

>>15938725
crazy how some companies only hire hot chicks while others only hire uggos >>15936862

>>15938765
>>15938752
Shut up fag

>>15938766
Shut up fag

Scientifically speaking, will QI ever be thing that can be built as a prototype and sent abroad a Starship as part of a rideshare?

>>15938763
>>15938767
The weak should fear the strong.

Personally I think the schizodrive has a chance because it's less cool than something like a nuclear torch drive, and god deliberately contrived reality to be as disappointing as possible.

>>15938780
>>15938773
>>15938770
>>15938765
>>15938752
Obvious samefag

>>15938342
QM is incorrect because it's incompatible with GR.

>>15938783

Thoughts on my newest design?

>>15938791
Implessive

>>15938788
>what is inspect element

>>15938791
Doing basic mockup of this in SW for you right now

>>15938783
Guess again, idiot

>>15938820
>>15938791
Made it

>>15938866
Im rusty so I forgot initially how revolve works but I got it done. Heres another section view

>>15938867
Model view. Hope this is enough for some retarded VC to fork over millions for you

>>15938868
>>15938867
>>15938866
NOOO I FORGOT TO PUT ON THE FINS FUCK
Give me a second

>>15938876
Vacuum only

>>15938877
True but I committed to making this rocket come to life so I'm going to make it as true to the original form as possible. Just finished it anyways hold on

SOVL

>>15938885
Alright finally finished. I can make more of these especially if you go more indepth with details. This one barely has fillets because the original drawing used allot of straight lines

>>15938885
Why is fairing not hollow?

>>15938910
Because thats not what the diagram specified. Theres no wall thickness shown unlike the main body, so I had to assume everything was solid except for the 'doin your mom' bit.

>>15938791
>/sfg/ aerospace inc.
newfag get out

>>15938917
Lol didnt even notice that when I made the rocket for him. Fuck me I forgot Im contracted to 4ASS not this start up.

>>15938659
>BO finally shows hardware
>the absolute state of Vega
>Hobbit Lab fucks up, again

>>15938914
Use common sense. "Doing your mom" is supposed to be a payload, not some empty area. Moreover, there's no point of double walls, it's a rocket, not a ship.

>>15938940
Nigger what? Do you know how to read a diagram? That fairing has infinetly skinny walls, literal lines I cant give that shit walls even if I wanted to when making it 3D. That means that I HAVE to assume that small pocket is hollow and the rest isnt to port it. Also, why the fuck would I assume a block is the payload instead of whats surrounding it? Of course I'm going to make it the hollow part if you dont literally atleast draw out fucking stick figures. Youre the one jotting this shit down and not even thinking about it, atleast be thankful I fucking made it for you ungratefal bastard. Maybe next time draw a good diagram of do it your fucking self god damn needy inbred newfag. I spend a fucking hour and a half doing something for fun as a little gift to /sfg/ and all you faggots can do is nitpick a point THAT I DIDNT EVEN HAVE CONTROL OVER.

>anon discovers the pitfalls of subcontracting

>>15938956
Is that what I just experienced? Some retards ordering me around and saying not enough when I did the best I could with what I was given? Fuck me I dont want to do contracted work if thats what happens then.

>>15938952
Why are you so dense? If you see things that don't make sense you either ask the source or if you can't you fix it yourself. It's a fucking rocket, hairing is supposed to be hollow and you don't do retarded shit like double walls or making lines from oxygen tank going directly to the propellant tank.
>I spend a fucking hour and a half doing something for fun
And you screwed it up, congratulations. Fix it or you'll get coal for christmas.

>>15938670
but that was last year

Will Starship lower the mass-to-orbit cost enough to finally get get going?

>>15939005
Get what going?

>>15938594
It's X post.

goylon slopusk

>>15938681
and the first one to orbit (from China, ZhuQue-2). Eat your heart out Elon and Jeff.

>Jessie lunch

why isn't she still capable of talking after doing the most broadcasts in spacex?

>>15939056
SSRI

Curious how many people from here post on Xitter too. You know he's talking about sfg.
https://x.com/mcrs987/status/1738815253452878056?s=20

>The new flame trench for Starship Static Fire testing at Massey’s looks like it will be roughly 200ft long, 60ft wide, and 60ft feet.

https://x.com/CSI_Starbase/status/1738911159682801829?s=20

>9 people on console for a customers F9 mission
pretty good

females

>>15939064
yeah you're a normal human

>>15939066
I'm not, though.

>>15937920
>data centers in spaaaaaaaaace
Lofstrom loop & server sky. Wafer thin satellite to give worldwide computing power and a good reason to actually launch thing sinto space

>>15939078
>schizobabble
just go back

>>15937895
whats the point of that? Billion dollar down the drain. This should only go ahead if entirely privately funded.

>>15937498
If you’re gonna do high speed rail, just do it all underground. No restrictions on route then. If an earthquake happens you’re fucked anyway.

In any case, it’d be better of commiefornia to start off small, try a normal railway and get it to run on time. If you’re feeling adventurous try using 4 lanes so they can overtake eachother.

>>15938705
that’s what Issac Arthur told me too.
I’d be easier to just fix mortality by dealing with cell senescence.

>>15939061
Implying that someone here went down to Starbase, flew a drone/aircraft and posted their exclusive pictures on an Indonesian spacesuit weaving forum.

>>15937025
I-is it really you?

>>15939104
Isaac Arthur mixes things up all the time. Radiation damage from radioisotopes present in your bones is something for thousands of years of uninterrupted cryosleep. You could mitigate by taking shorter sessions.

>>15939023
this is the problem, economics drives things. We had the tech for men in LEO in the 1930s if we tried hard enough, but there was no need for it.

If we wanted to launch hundreds of thousands of tonnes of crap into space we’d make a LOFSTROM LAUNCH LOOP. Its way better than a railgun, nice gentle acceleration, no barrel wear, and best of completely doable with todays tech using not much more than $100 billion. Go look at his website for how it works, or try youtube, or Isaac Arthur.

>>15939083
Fuck off cunt. As it stands we’ve limited reasons to go to space. Lofstrom recognises this as the barrier to getting into space, chicken or egg catch 22.

http://slides.server-sky.com//serversky24p.pdf

QRD: Very thin cheap satellites are used for computing power, controlled via datalink.
Made on single piece of doped silicon, solar panel integrated in, also uses solar sail style station keeping with variable transparency thrusters.

This isnt skitzo posting, it’s a very good way to make an economic market for massive space tonnage to orbit.

>>15939132
picture for reference

>>15939093
fast probe go far

>>15938728
he said notable, anon

>>15939117
>this is the problem, economics drives things. We had the tech for men in LEO in the 1930s if we tried hard enough, but there was no need for it.
The turbopump is one of two critical inventions for viable orbital rocketry, and it was not operationally viable until the 1940s. The second is the digital flight computer and accompanying software engineering, which was not viable until the 1960s. Inertial guidance couldn't get them there, and mechanical computers were too large, too slow, and too heavy.

>>15938987
I can't keep years straight anymore, it's all blending together. I thought astra blew up tropics 1 this year, too.

>>15939062

Mars Express has a few sips of propellant left. It will mark 20 years of Martian orbit on Christmas.

https://www.theregister.com/2023/12/24/mars_express_mission_extension/

Mars Odyssey also in a similar condition.

>>15936593
>Rocketlab and Firefly seem to have as their highest ambition getting USSF contracts.
Why wouldn't they? If not for government contracts, how else are they going to survive in the long term? They don't have the funding to go through the long and arduous march to develop rockets that will let them catch up to SX or BO in scale, tech and price per kg to orbit. I don't think the niche of light payloads to unique orbits is big enough for them to survive on just commercial contracts.

>>15936629
I think valuations are based on future dividend potential rather than just future revenue potential

>>15936701
>if Tianlong 3 isn't a scam
You can see full TH-12 engine hot fire test footage on their website
http://www.spacepioneer.cc/news/detail/112

>>15938791
I don't think those tanks are correctly sized for the combustion ratio of this fuel-oxidizer combination

>>15938984
>making lines from oxygen tank going directly to the propellant tank
From the cross section, I imagine it's a hybrid rocket motor using compressed powdered cum.

>>15939061
I keep two different personalities. Never mixing the two. One is schizo and other is a normal/reasonable. No one can tell my secret identity

>>15939291
>Why wouldn't they?
>>15939262

>>15939387
you are literally cultivating multiple personality disorder
they are both schizos

>>15937699
Based generalist debunking memedrive in a general but rigorous way

Did JWST launch one or two years ago and when is the new test flight happening?

>>15938984
Go fuck yourself never doing this shit again thanks for ruining the one good deed I tried to do for /sfg/.

>>15939394
Thats not how MPD occurs in people

>>15939262
based negroid detester

>>15939400
What the fuck James Webb launched two years ago tomorrow

>>15939409
Feels like 1 years ago. I might be demented. Also much less science results than I expected by now. the trap planets are lifeless.

>>15939408
>>15939409
>>15939411
Shut up redditards

wtf I missed another f9 launch?

>>15939413
Yes you did chud

>>15939409

>>15939401
Ignore the queer and keep on keepin' on, anon.

>>15939409
The telescope wasnt worth it. Science is dead

>>15939387

>>15939421
He would probably draw this. Niggers do this

>>15939414
>chud
Go back to your containment board faggot

>>15939409
>>15939415

>>15939424
Kek someone actually fell for it

>>15939409
>>15939415
>>15939427

>>15939433
Lotta /pol/ tourists this time of year, they fall for anything

>>15939368
ITAR

i want to fuck starship ass

SpaceX on X during Xmas

when is ft3 ??????????????????????????????

>>15939525
congress has had some scares recently for government shutdowns, which loomed over IFT2.
They only passed temporary funding, which means the crisis starts up again by mid-January 2024. IFT3 hinges on FAA desks being staffed.
This may shift our flight out to February or March.

>>15939545
fucks that sucks. I hope we make it to the moon ASAP

>>15939201
kys

Ideas to make the interstage hot-fire ring fully, rapidly recoverable and reusable?

>>15939570
Not spoonfeeding you again

>>15939570
>hot-fire ring
go back newfag

/sfg/ died (and thats good)

>>15939745
sfg is alive (and that's bad)

>>15939745
because the government died

>>15939769
(and that's good)

>>15939570
Just keep flying it without refurbishments until the booster doesn’t come back