/sci/ - Science & Math

With what
Using what
At what cost

>>15936185
to build something like this you a moon colony first

>>15936185
makes no fucking sense

>dude, muh infantile soience fiction fantasy life that got implanted in my brain because i watch too much tv
>i want to be a spaceman!!! just like in muh marvel comix mooooooovies!!!

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>>15936185
Too busy babysitting niggers and other subhumans.

>>15936185
Dildos for your mother?

>>15936424
As space fantasies go, building huge space habitats by mining comets and asteroids is on the more grounded and realistic side, compared to things like terraforming and colonizing Mars.
With the right type of AI and automated construction machines, it might not be that difficult

>>15936185
assume 20m thick dirt need that much for farming, 1m^2=60ton, + whatever structure’s needed to keep it all in at 1Gee + shielding = 70ton

NYC land prices per m^2 =~$20,000
as per https://www.numbeo.com/property-investment/in/New-York
starship if we get lucky might be $200 a kilo,

70,000*$200=$14,000,000 per square meter of O’Neil cylinder, just launch costs
perhaps you could get away with less dirt but then you dont get as good a replica of earth conditions, cant farm apple trees in 3m of dirt.

Hope aint lost tho, we just need to use lofstrom loops, much cheaper, and perfectly doable with todays tech, about 50 billion dollar investment

>>15936185
You anons think we'll ever see one in our lifetimes?

>>15936931
Sounds like a giant waste of time, labor, and money all around.

>>15936535
Space shit is for infantile manchildren who want to ignore the fact the world they live in (created by their ancestors' own hands) is shit and rotten to the very core, so they retreat into future minded fantasies.

>>15936931
There is literally nothing you could "mine" in space that would have a higher value than the fuel and equipment needed to obtain it.
>inb4 hurr, a trillions tons of unobtanium room temp superconductor, chud

>>15937990
True under current cost structures. The tricky question is if it is possible to advance in space mining tech to the point where it is economically viable and how much must be spent upfront to get to that point.

>>15936974
You will eat the bowls of snot and you will like it.

>>15937993
>True under current cost structures.
Are you retarded? It would be impractical no matter the case *unless* we were specifically dependent on it for infrastructure... which needless to say would be a hellish industrial revolution 2.0 type of scenario.

>>15937976
Nope. Not any market incentives to make s full scale one. $14 million per square meter is far to expensive.

Eventually market incentives will arise, but not within a good few thousands of years. Why? Because genetic decline means we’re returning to medieval conditions. Dysgenics; dumb people having more kids than smart people WILL result in the population getting dumber.


Why were we smart in the first place? Low complexity civilisations (e.g medieval Europe) are eugenic. Lots of child mortality, lots of dead poor people. Long horrible road of nature killing everybody, but slightly favouring the intelligent. Eventually complexity of civilisation rises with enough smart people around. Then it all starts again. Cyclical. Watch Edward Dutton.

>>15937990
Yes there is, you still think like an earther.
The value is huge compared to the cost of shipping any of that from the Earth.
Of course that implies we are already colonizing space, and it's a chicken egg problem.

>>15938046
>colonizing space
Yeah bro, "colonize" a resourceless vacuum.
Why not colonize the bottom of the ocean first - it's closer and the land is completely uninhabited by men - where's that pioneer spirit now?

>>15938099
does not scale. once done you again look up.

>>15938099
More obvious argument is that space is more isolated than the bottom of the ocean so has less intra human competition. Same reason an animal might wander into the desert from the jungle.

>>15936974
Formose reactors and amino acid sythesis

>>15936424
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>>15938012
Fuck your economy, black nigger. We didn't lend on the moon in order to make you money, you fucking retard. We did it because it's our universe and we want to explore it and conquer it. Stay at house making your shit below 6 figures money, black monkey nigger.

>>15938099
>resourceless
It's not.

>>15936185
We can't even land 10T on the moon without bankrupting a presidential administration. Those things are about a trillion times that in mass.

>>15936185
Need a way to casually ship matter from Earth to space first.

>>15938208
You're spiritually more aligned with the jews than your Germanic ancestors, you faustian cuck.

>>15938531
I will align my cock with you ass, faggot

>>15938531
>Hey bro crossing the ocean in search of riches, bitches, glory and legacy is like soooo kiked bro, you should be zased, stay here and be a serf eating tradslop like me or something.

>>15939527
traveling millions of miles through a vacuum to reach a destination that has no food, water, or breathable air is totally the same as sailing a boat from one place on earth to another place on earth.

>>15938201
elaborate

>>15939592
bio sacks of shit have no place outside earth. need different hardware to colonize the universe

>>15938531
>Germanic ancestors
Cucks of europe refused to get colonies until they panicked when they found out how small and devoid of resources they were

>>15939836
If you think of black people as a resource on which a country needs to be enriched on, my Semitic friend.

>>15939714
If you synthesize simple sugars with the formose cyclea like glucose and fructose and extract only the right isomers you have a pretty good carbon hydrate source. Maybe polymerize the sugars and you got your synthetic bread.
There are already diff rooms ways to synthesize aminoacid completely chemical or with bacteria. You could just create them and also polymerize them so you get proteins. Then you need fat which isn't a big problem, you only have to synthesize Glycerin and some long fat acids.

>>15936323
With scraps, using all we have

You people find new ways to be lazy and unproductive

>>15936974
nobody in their right mind would suggest building huge orbital structures using material from Earth
You have a huge ball of metal ore right there

>>15937985
better than spending that money on spics and niggers.

We want to make it happen to get away from you retarded apes.

A society with no black people and smelly spics...

>>15942029
>Having to flee your own planet to attain this.
You're basically admitting defeat to your globalist overlords at that point.

>>15942047
Let them have this prison of a planet, and watch the darkies seeth as they rot earth into a 3rd world shit-hole dystopia, while we look down and laugh at them.

>>15942047
>Having to flee your own planet to attain this.
no other solution anon. not joking.

>>15942047
mutts did this before

>>15942053
the prison is the flesh, the biological life. it packs (or rather unpacks) all the gods and satans of the world. for they are modeled after biological human strengths and weaknesses.
such gods make no sense for other forms of life (not biological), as they share nothing. satans tricks don't quite fit anymore (fully), god's as well.
they may develop their own, but god and satan are completely and uniquely tied to human biology.
the earth's environment accommodates humans, with their deities. you can't take that away from it as long as biological humans (not genetically altered) inhabit it. the only solution is new type of life in another place (like planet or whatever), where the earth's gods cannot follow.