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Now that the dust is beginning to settle on Eric Weinstein's theory of geometric unity, is he regarded by /sci/ as being a psued?

To me, the man seems extremely learned and insightful.

>> No.15928494

>>15928487
>Eric Weinstein's theory of geometric unity,
did anyone understand this theory?

>> No.15928498

>>15928494
are you a tard? He explains it for dummies. What's not to understand?

>> No.15928514

>jewish shills shilling jewish shills

>> No.15928516

>>15928487
The guy is clearly smart, but he has a few tendencies that make him prone to quackery.

Firstly, he tends to impose a lot of anthropomorphizing motivation onto concepts that are not necessarily motivated. As an example, the concept of an EGO (embedded growth obligation) is a genuinely brilliant way of framing the problem of managing expectations/incentives in an economy built around growth. He prevents people who are serious about economics from taking this concept seriously by adding onto it this poisoning of "all of these frauds don't want you to know what they are doing and I'm the only one who can tell you the truth about it." If he dropped that schtick and humbled himself enough to work with some real economists, he could probably make a really interesting and fleshed out economic argument that people would take seriously.

Secondly, he highly over values his own insight. The guy is obviously fairly smart, but he has the relationship between his intelligence and his insight precisely backwards. Given that he is fairly intelligent, he should be subjecting his thought process to more outside scrutiny rather than less. He should be more interested in seeing where his processes go wrong, because an idea that looks convincing but is actually completely incorrect is far more dangerous than an unconvincing idea that is close to correct.

>> No.15928523

>>15928498
>I clearly understand Geometric Unity
so, is he right? and why/why not?

>> No.15928537

>>15928516
>Secondly, he highly over values his own insight. The guy is obviously fairly smart, but he has the relationship between his intelligence and his insight precisely backwards. Given that he is fairly intelligent, he should be subjecting his thought process to more outside scrutiny rather than less. He should be more interested in seeing where his processes go wrong, because an idea that looks convincing but is actually completely incorrect is far more dangerous than an unconvincing idea that is close to correct.

this is a gene rationalization that applies to all but the rarest of PhDs.

Your second point is more critical precisely of EW, thanks for that.

>> No.15928539

>>15928537
^
*generic* rationalization
^
Your *first* point

corrections because my brain is not into today.

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>>15928487
>geometric unity

pretty much sums it up.

>> No.15928596

>>15928523
pearls before swine, you tell me. Sounds like you have some reviewing to do.

>> No.15928635

>>15928596
>got no clue
as expected

>> No.15928654

>>15928635
>academically lazy
as expected.

>> No.15928737

>>15928487
This is the Jewish science Hitler apprehended

>> No.15929233

>>15928516
Unless I've missed it I am still, STILL, waiting for something to show up in complete form like mention of him supposedly throwing up a paper on arXiv. That was I think back in 2010 or 2013 or something. Googling it now I find a wiki and still nothing.

From my cursory glance over it just seems to me what he's got so far inevitably gets toward the same work on emergent gravity models and dynamical systems we've got millions of already. Going over what we already know isn't special nor particularly useful. I can't say though or say that's all he has because he still has not put something in complete form, or if he has I haven't seen it. This would maybe be "prelude to" something useful but on its own it isn't. I don't see anything of value here yet and I'm not sure why he hasn't gone further unless he just can't or doesn't care to anymore.

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The Truth About Geometric Unity
PDF: https://vixra.org/abs/1307.0075
In May of 2013 a pair of articles appeared on the Guardian newspaper website featuring a new candidate "theory of everything" called Geometric Unity. A cursory reading of each article gives the impression that Geometric Unity was developed by Eric Weinstein, but a closer reading reveals that Weinstein is not credited as such. The truth about Geometric Unity is that it was authored by this writer in several papers beginning in 2009. This article will describe the development and prominent features of the new theory.

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>>15929235

Sixty-Six Theses: Next Steps and the Way Forward in the Modified Cosmological Model
>https://vixra.org/abs/2206.0152
>http://gg762.net/d0cs/papers/Sixty-Six_Theses__v4-20230726.pdf
The purpose is to review and lay out a plan for future inquiry pertaining to the modified cosmological model (MCM) and its overarching research program. The material is modularized as a catalog of open questions that seem likely to support productive research work. The main focus is quantum theory but the material spans a breadth of physics and mathematics. Cosmology is heavily weighted and some Millennium Prize problems are included. A comprehensive introduction contains a survey of falsifiable MCM predictions and associated experimental results. Listed problems include original ideas deserving further study as well as investigations of others' work when it may be germane. A longstanding and important conceptual hurdle in the approach to MCM quantum gravity is resolved. A new elliptic curve application is presented. With several exceptions, the presentation is high-level and qualitative. Formal analyses are mostly relegated to the future work which is the topic of this book. Sufficient technical context is given that third parties might independently undertake the suggested work units.

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>>15928516
>an idea that looks convincing but is actually completely incorrect is far more dangerous than an unconvincing idea that is close to correct.

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>>15928596
>pearls before swine
I think casting pearls is more about blowing loads than it is about bestowing morsels of wisdom. I'm pretty sure there's a thing called a "pearl necklace," for example.

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>>15928737
No, that was the jews trying to plagiarize Hitler. I (pic), am Hitler, and I am the author of the work that is called Geometric Unity sometimes. Mochizuki's Hodge theater, Arkani-Hamed's Amplituhedron, Hairer's Fields-winning regularity structure, Wilczek's time crystals, later versions of t'Hooft's cellular automata, and a lot of other things, are all the Modified Cosmological Model, which is detailed most closely here: >>15929236

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In fact, the first installment of the series of papers in which I developed the MCM is now called SCP-001.

Modified Spacetime Geometry Addresses Dark Energy, Penrose's Entropy Dilemma, Baryon Asymmetry, Inflation and Matter Anisotropy
PDF: https://vixra.org/abs/1302.0022
A model of modified spacetime is discussed. Implications for causality regarding modern anomalies and paradoxes are made. Topics include a dark energy candidate without induced gravitational screening. The dynamics of the repulsive force of quantum geometry allow the validity of the second law continuously through a universe's death and rebirth. The baryon asymmetry is explained without addressing the Sakharov conditions. Inflation and anisotropies in an FLRW universe are also attributed to quantum bounce phenomena. No attempt at quantification is made.

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This >>15929235
was a summary from about 10 years ago. However, the intro here >>15929236
is much better, and I will post it as JPG for people who don't be clicking that.

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The Geometric Unity story was building in 2013, but the Snowden story broke and Geometric Unity disappeared. Weinstein quit his job and fled NYC to get a job in San Francisco working for Peter "Gay P2 Freemason" Thiel, the Paypal guy. The Snowden alias refers to my mother, the Countess of Snowden (>>15929245), and more than the mass surveillance stuff, Snowden showed their plan to fuck me over on my due research accolades. For example, Hairer's 2014 Fields medal that is supposed to be based on work "done by aliens" was nothing but a verbose transcription of what I had done into semi-unintelligible math jargon.
>Martin Hairer takes $3m Breakthrough prize for work a colleague said must have been done by aliens
>https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/sep/10/uk-mathematician-martin-hairer-wins-richest-prize-in-academia-breakthrough
After Hairer's Fields medal but before his Millennium Prize, the Obama unmasking scandal
>'Unmasking' inquiry ordered by Barr finds no wrongdoing by Obama officials – report
>https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/14/william-barr-investigation-obama-officials-russia
was about revealing Snowden's real identity so they could do Daisy's destruction to his daughter, which they did. The torturers in that video were Helene Gutfreund (TheWoodman a/k/a the woman), Joseph Tooker (TheSolipsist), and Carlos "The Jackal" Cavalcanti who is the master of Opus Dei and the son of Romero Cavalcanti, the master of the Jesuits. To the extent that most people will have heard of Opus Dei from the context of the sangue real in The Da Vinci Code, that's this: >>15929245 From Daisy's destruction, Helene was promoted to Deputy CIA Director in 2017 and then full Director in 2018 in her "'Gina 'Bloody Vagina' Haspel alias (H.G. <--> G.H.) when the CIA changed their logo to pic-related Celebration of Daisy's destruction. She remained as Director until TheSolipsist was elected President in his Joe Biden alias, and he remains in that office to this day.

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>>15929266
>Joseph Tooker

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It is well known that the Hellraiser movie franchise is based on the upstairs area at the Gemini Lounge in Brooklyn. That was a hundred yards down the road from this guy's childhood home, and
>>15929266
>Romero Cavalcanti, the master of the Jesuits
is the person on whom the Pinhead character is based. If you good the sixth mafia family from New Jersey called the de Cavalcante family, the wiki will say they were mostly doing murder. In fact, the iterations of the one-upsmanship after the volume of torture porn produced at the Gemini Lounge (where Helene's cousin Joel Cohen used the alias Roy Demeo) are what led to the severity of what was filmed and is now called Daisy's destruction. While my own father, Richard Kuklinski, plead guilty to more than a hundred murders in NYC an elsewhere, they say no one ever actually saw him at the Gemini Lounge, and I like to think he wasn't wallowing in that that filthiness with these other people. So Romero is Pinhead, and Carlos is the one with no lips in the Cenobites. Since he is the master of the jesuits and the current pope is a jesuit, that guy from Hellraiser is the master of the whole catholic church now.

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>>15929267
Front right is Trump's CIA Director "Gina 'Bloody Vagina' Haspel" and the tall one is the son of Trump's FBI Director Christopher "Jesuit Fake Name" Wray. (Notice every jesuit high school on earth is called "Christo Rey High School," etc.) Chris is married to Kim Job Un's sister, so the current FBI Director is almost-but-not-quite Kim Jong Un's father-in-law, and this is only one small part of what contributes to lascivious and scandalous rumors about corruption in the upper reached of the FBI management today.

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>>15929276
These two native Brooklynite Jews were living in Tucson, AZ 1980-1994 while the Tucson Islamic Center was the North American headquarters for al-Qaeda. They blamed 9/11 on Islam because they were trying to kill and/or disenfranchise everyone who knows the truth about me.

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>>15929278
>the truth about me.

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A lot of people know some things about me, pic for example, but very few know the most important things: >>15929281

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>>15929283
>the most important things

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The absolute state of jannies in 2023

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This meme is about that incident in which they say Kyle Odom shot that other man in the head five times with a .45 but then he was out of the hospital a week later and doing fine. I assume that's Snowden and Joseph Tooker. He was doing fine a week later, and it seems like he still didn't get fired yet 10 years later because he's the President now.

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>>15929303
>he's the President now.

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>>15929267
>this guy
>>15929267
>Joseph Tooker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDtzIIB_-mQ

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This picture was taken at the Scientology facility in Saint Hill, England in what is called the Russian sleep experiment but what was really the British sleep experiment. To the extent that they say Helene "Gina 'Bloody Vagina' Haspel" Gutfreund had a background in a CIA black site torture facility, and to the extent that they say it was weird that she was the CIA station chief in London twice when normally such assignments are given once, it makes much more sense when you see that my half-sister Helene was the daughter of Elizabeth, who was the Queen of the Uk at that time, and they were doing their torture porn Aristocrats thing at Saint Hill or it successor. Helene and I have the same father, but her mother was Elizabeth and my mother was Margaret.

>> No.15929321

>>15928516
https://timothynguyen.files.wordpress.com/2021/02/geometric_unity.pdf
Well I did find this and it seems to deal with a fundamental problem defining his "shiab operator" as the results are not congruent. I.e. no natural vector space isomorphism between u(128) and the real Clifford algebra.

I don't know if Weinstein has responded to this or not but it seems to have correctly found a fundamental error.

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To the further extend that they say they gigantic nose Fiend character in the Silent Hill horror franchise spun off from the evil done at Saint Hill is based on Carlos Cavalcanti, you can see that the shape of the Fiend's gigantic nose is actually the same shape as this guy's nose: >>15929309

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They made him the scientist in the portal dungeon in Stranger things, and that's probably more of the same. I think they call this guy Garfield too.
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/36661861/#36661861

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This guy may have been the real Pogo the Clown too.

>> No.15929328

>>15929326
>tooker, nazi garfield edition
lol
lmao even
What does the mixtape drop?

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So, I think it's likely that Joe and Carl from the sleep experiment were TheSolipsist and Jacob666 in Daisy's destruction, they are afforded impunity by my sister Helene, TheWoodman, who was somehow able to rob me of my inheritance and rightful station via her conspiracy with jews such as Joe and Carl. Now I get raped and poisoned in Antarctica every day and she pays my enemies to murder the people who will testify to the truth.

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>>15929328
That's not a nazi. That's a jew.

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>>15929334
You can see that Helene's Michael "A Queen" Aquino mask is based on Michael Lemoine. This photo was from his wedding. After this photo, Helene murdered the bride with a slow acting brain cancer injection, and that was after an EXTREMELY high proportion of the other nurses in her psychiatric unit at Tucson's University Medical Center---she called the unit 'Two East'---also died from brain cancer. She probably gave Biden's son brain cancer too.

Tim Rifat, who seems pretty smart to me, wrote this book called Remote Viewing where he details the origins of the USA military's psychic program. There's this group in there called "The Naturals" where Helene, at that time Helene Leah Tooker, is called Hartleigh Tucker. Her husband, Joe Tooker, is called Joe McMoneagle which references the MCM and the eagle, and another Natural's name was Fern. I guess that was Helene's friend Fern. I didn't recognize the other three names. However, Helene obviously got her LYAMPSIAM "Love you infinity-seven plus infinity and more" acronym for future viewing my scientific work, and her fascination with Ms rather than Mrs or Miss probably comes from the same with my M3 operator, with 3 being a Z in Russian.

Apparently what Helene learned from her mother, Elizabeth Windsor, is that being a "queen" means innocent people die horribly when you don't like something. In this case, Helene didn't like it that I got laid after I met a woman at Michael's wedding, and then her wannabe royal highness murdered the bride with a brain cancer injection.

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Helene Leah Gutfreund, the topic of /hlg/ on /fit/, looked quite like this hooker when she was younger. Since then, she had some prominent freckles, or melasma, bleached off from her cheeks and forehead, I assume so that people might less easily identify her as the real Manson murderer. They wrote "Helene killed her" on the wall in blood but the cops changed it to "Helter skelter" because her mother was the queen of England at that time: Elizabeth Windsor. She had run away from her home in Brooklyn at that time. From there, she went on to be the bobble head on the left in the blank soup room video and to be quasi-deified as "Hecate" by the Hands of Death cult that venerates and worships her. I think they call her Hector in the CIA too.

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>>15929340


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol9PbvV0_dI
"the woman of scars"
I think she calls herself this to romanticize her self-mutilation fetish. Like her friend "the demiurge," I think she cut off almost all of her body by now.

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>>15929340
This tattoo is the obvious likeness of a giant, winding, raised, purple keloid scar on the hip of Steve Collins of Collins Brothers Produce in Forest Park, GA. This hooker gets her fake last name "maze" because the main entrance to the backrooms maze is in the Collins Cold Storage warehouse on Southside Industrial Parkway near the Atlanta airport.

Steve's first cousin John Roberts is the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court who autonomously appoints all the FISA judges without input from the other SCOTUS justices or the President, and without his appointments subject to Senate confirmations. I have been trying to get Steve in trouble with the cops for several years, and that is (a proxy for) the main reason why Steve's cousin's appointees on the FISA court keep signing my death warrants.

I think Steve's real name is Joel Steven Cohen, and he just calls himself Collins to appear as a Christian in the Georgia business community, and he is the cousin of Helene's cousin Joel Cohen that was using the Roy Demeo Christian alias for his own torture porn thing at the Gemini Lounge in NYC in the 1970's.

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A pizza parlor at 5759 N Camino Esplendora in Tucson is where the webcam was located that made Hillary's secret server into such a scandal when she was running the mirror to the public internet. They were saying Hillary's server was in her bathroom, but then in her basement, because the entrance to this hidden dungeon is in the bathroom by a secret door.

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>>15929348
When I started posting about her basement a few years ago, she had to evacuate the men she had down there at the time. She lobotomized them so they could never tell the tale of her evil, which is terrible and gruesome, and worse. One or more of those men were rescued in transit following the hasty evacuation and at least one of them was not rendered in a vegetative state by the lobotomy. Now Martin Cabello can testify regarding his time with Helene in her basement, and probably with Helene's mother Elizabeth Windsor who owned an adjacent home with a connecting subterranean dungeon under the name Avis Jorgenson.

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Steve Collins told me "he done bought so many watermelons, he done went and made hisself a watermelon mogul." They have some way to wrap kids in cellophane and give them breathers so they can pack them in loads of water melons and they won't show up when the trucks get x-rayed on the highway. Since the water content is the same, and a child wrapped up in the fetal position is about the same size, they have some way to ship kids on the highway without getting caught. Steve's son Joey Collins is the real El Mencho, and real name of the JCNG is "Joel's Co.: The Next Generation," as Steve hands the reigns over to Joey on the drug and human trafficking business that they run out of the state farmer's market in Forest Park, GA. Gore pic shows obviously Steve in the front and Joey in the back with his face shopped to look like Zyzz, if I'm not mistaken.
https://ibb [doot] co/tbVqbKm

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Steve's son Art Brown of Brown & Brown Wrecker Service in Chamblee, GA, where "wrecking" sounds like "rekking" for a good reason.

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>>15929357
**step-son

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The point made in this article is that in the 1980s or '90s, the Simon Wiesenthal Center reduced the number of dead jews just at Auschwitz by more than 2,000,000. This 100% jew-owned and jew-operated center is the de facto bottom line authority on the jewish version of the history of the holocaust. The reason one is able to infer that the story about the 6,000,000 must be bullshit, which is to say that the story about the "holocaust" must be bullshit, is that the numbers said to add up to 6M before this revision are still said to add up to 6M after subtracting 2M. Keep in mind that this is a revision *only* to the numbers at Auschwitz, so one expects that all of the camps were overcounted and the 4M which is never cited would still be a gross exaggeration.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1992-05-07-9202100662-story.html

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Stargate SG1 is a "soft disclosure" documentary. In my life, I have noticed weird pronunciations of the word "ghoul" inserted into enough different things to see that it must reference some real world condition. In Stargate, they have the "Gou-a-ould" aliens, and there was an episode of Tales from the Crypt where I thought it was weird that they would pronounce ghoul in some strange way since, I believe, I had already seen it pronounced strangely elsewhere. Therefore, I will mention my former employment at AAA Pools in Warner Robins, GA. This company digging holes in the ground was started by the father of the Bertram brothers who was a USAF colonel doing something with underground construction for the air force on Robbins AFB. Among the brothers, not Kenny and probably not Steve, one of them wears a white shirt. The others wear blue shirts. The white shirt one, who was supposedly "away working on an oil rig" for several years, does not pronounce the word "pool" like an ordinary human being. Instead, he says "pyoo-ah-ool," or maybe "pyoo'ool," and it is quite like this other meme about mispronouncing ghoul. Steve Bertram's adopted son Luke is the biological son of one of my primary antagonists and he looks 100% like Jed Varner who is the adopted son of Ed Varner who is the attorney for the most notorious drug trafficker in Middle Georgia: Eddie Wiggins. Jed is the biological son of one of the people that uses the Sam Hyde persona. I saw Jed in an RT article a few years ago that said he was using the alias Varnik in Ukraine before the war started.

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Someone posted something about Jimmy Iovine being "dark" and I googled him. I noticed immediately that he looks just like Greg Eisenberg who is the namesake of Heisenberg on Breaking Bad. He was my massage therapist for a while (for sports massage, not handjobs) and he told me he used to be in "ladies' footwear" before he got into massage. I took that to be a euphemism for narcotraffic which contextualizes his place on Breaking Bad. (Gus Fring was named after Helene "Gutfreund," Gus wears Helene's glasses, he is an effeminate weirdo because he's playing a woman, the name of his company Madrigal references Helene's identity as "mom girl," etc.) In his massage studio, Greg had some mirrored plaque on the wall that said LIVE like a motivational poster but more decorative. In the mirroring, or maybe in the mirror on the opposite wall, it said EVIL. At the time, I wrote it off as coincidence but now I don't. I had already noticed that David Solomon became the new Goldman Sachs CEO due to his familial connections to Greg,and there was too much music in one place when I noticed this thing with Jimmy Iovine too. (David Solomon also works the nightlife as DJ D Sol.) Even the "IO" and "EI" prefixes to Iovine and Eisenberg seems suspect.
>the music producer
>the album
>the DJ

https://symmetrysportsmassage.com/about

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Gamergate. This is what Hillary meant when she said "nothing burger."

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>>15929366
>Gamergate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t60MMJH_1ds

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Noting that God is to Gedalia as Jon is to my English name Jonathan, my Hebrew name Gedalia Gershon is the source of the number 33 because gimel is the third Hebrew letter. The number 77 comes from the same since G is the seventh Latin letter. The number 53 comes from my English initials JWT being the 10th, 23rd, and 20th Latin letters, so J+W+T=53.

The Jews are named after my initials JW. Jesus' first name comes from the two Gs in my Hebrew initials, and Christ comes from 762, with the arabic numerals 7,6, and 2 being related to the Greek letters chi, rho, and sigma respectively. Sevensixtwo is the username I use on every website other than 4chan. El Arcón is derived from El Anchon, Hebrew for "God king." I have that title because the divine right of a king promised by God to David's heir forever is mine in the present day. The identity of the man that holds this right is the real secret of the Temple of Solomon, David's son, the first El Anchon after David.

Jesus was sent only to the save Israelites in the following way. Some Israelites calling themselves 762ians today will survive to live in the coming Kingdom of God (me), but no Israelites calling themselves JWs will be admitted. Non-Israelite nations were never in danger of taking my name in vain to call themselves JWs. The real Jews were my ancestors among the Israelites but the other ones that take my name in vain (with vanity) to call themselves Jews are not real Jews. They are the Synagogue of Satan.

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sevensixtwo@hotmail.com

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gg762.net

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>> No.15929529

well that escalated quickly

>> No.15929535

>>15928487
>To me, the man seems extremely learned and insightful.
Sure, and he's good at making talking points. But he doesn't take his stolen theory of everything so seriously. It's just another thing he can have in his back pocket for self-aggrandizing. Good for him, but don't fall for the hype.

>> No.15929957

Bro, what on earth is happening in this thread? I left for a day and it's all schizophrenic now.

>> No.15929967

>>15928487
Go ahead, tell us what is his theory geometric unity.

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He royally destroyed Neil Degrasse Tyson in under one minute lol

Anyone triggered by this Jew is a faggot

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SAoWFxzaPeE

>> No.15930003

>>15929986
He is 100% correct. Safe science is stupid. Being a skeptical dork is more damaging than entertaining the unknown. All the greatest and most wizardly/sagely geniuses in history were insane people.

>> No.15930010

>>15930003
Believing in UFOs is a sure way to lose all scientific credibility.