/sci/ - Science & Math

Switzerland actually has an insane amount of immigrants. But a ton of it is brain drain. Your actually smart people need a place to go.

>>15925199
Sounds like they introduced an easy 400 billion to go right back into the pockets of their elites after several capital cycles.

>>15925199
And they still claim that "the great replacement" isn't true

>>15925693
it isn't

>>15925693
Shows how easily a population can fall under the sway of right wing demagogues. Why I'm no longer in favor of democracy but a technocracy. Can't trust the idiot masses.

>>15925713
It's objectively true. The organizations that lobby for all this garbage believe if you bring enough different ethno-cultures together in a single nation you prevent cultural hegemony of any one group and therefore you will end war and tragedy because no one group will ever have a mandate for action. They think it creates a peaceful stalemate when all it actually does is turn the whole nation into a pit of racial conflict and corruption. Conflict is driven by proximity and difference. Different cultures need room to breathe.
Importantly they are not for multiethnic monocultures, they are very specifically for multicultures where the cultures are split along ethnic lines. This is the true principle of the replacement and why it is bad. It's not about "whites" per se.

>>15925713
>>15925749
https://tomwalker.substack.com/p/the-great-replacement-a-white-supremacist

>>15925755
I bet you would have thought Irish immigration was "great replacement".

>>15925793
It wasn't because the Irish weren't africans/asians etc
Also the numbers weren't as huge.
The africans and asians can't and won't assimilate.
The whole thing is clearly a population replacement operation.
In next 50 years, all these "white" countries will be no longer be "white".
This will be true for US within the next decade, non whites are already ~45% of total population in US (2020 census)
Since Biden 8M+ have arrived, more to come.

>>15925199
Europe has chosen its destiny.
Europe destroyed itself in the 2 world wars.
It has no future.

>>15925713
Westerners are on pace to becoming minorities in their own countries. Sorry if that upsets you.

>>15925824
Not only minorities, they will likely go completely extinct.

>>15925693
And the other 31% are immigrants

Wiggers deserve to get replaced.
This wouldn't have been true, maybe like 60 years ago, but now, wigger men are all fags and wigger women literally fuck dogs.
These people are utter subhuman degens of the lowest kind.
These disgusting deviant freaks actually support barbarians raping and pillaging them
They have become cancerous, it's a good thing that they are dying.

>>15925816
>non whites are already ~45% of total population in US (2020 census)
And why is that a problem? Are ethnic minorities treated poorly in the US?

>>15925793
I bet you are a jewish discord tranny

>>15925923
Historically, yes

>>15925923
Not when whites are the majority. Why would I give people the power to decide the destiny of the nation my ancestors built for me? You are so obviously a discord tranny, only discord trannys ask questions so fucking stupid like it is a gotcha. Why dont you let me move into your house and eat all your food and pawn all your shit? Is it because you rape your house guests? kys you stupid fucking retard

>>15926003
it is so bad for them they line up by the millions to to some here, risking death and the death of their children to come all the way here to be oppressed

>>15925821
Who was the primary antagonist that started both world wars?

>>15926003
Sounds like whites should have treated minorities better. Reap what you sow.

>>15925793
Nice way of shifting the discussion, fren.

>>15926018
Ah I see, so immigration is White punishment?

>>15926018

>>15925755
>when all it actually does is turn the whole nation into a pit of racial conflict and corruption.
Which whole first world nation is a pit of racial conflict and corruption? Keeping in mind that a few small, isolated incidents a month involving a couple of people is not a nation wide pit of racial conflict and corruption

>>15925923
No, ethnic minorities are given free access to First World White Civilisation in US, with whites themselves becoming the minority this wouldn't be the case anymore.
>>15926018
Whites are paying the price for not treating the "minorities" bad enough
Example - Just Finishing off niggers will solve most of the violent crime problem in US.

>>15926031
The "minorities" are so delusional in their low IQ animalistic seethe that they don't realise that with the whites gone, no one will be there anymore to feed them.
In places like India 60% of the population directly depends upon the government for food, most of it is result of western aid directly or indirectly.
These insects don't realise on whose back they are living on.

>>15926036
US, Sweden, Canada, UK, France, Germany are some examples.
They will only get worse.

>>15925832
You know they don't have to kill a white person to let a brown person into the US.
If a brown person enters the US all the white people are still there. There's also no law against white people having children, they can have as many as they want. Assuming you're white you can have 5000 children if you want, nobody is going to stop you or kill you.

>>15926046
I don't think you understand what entire nation means. The majority of people in all those nations don't see any racial conflict in real life at all. I don't think I've ever seen any. Seeing the same few cherry picked article headlines on /pol/ over and over is the only way someone would think they're surrounded by racial conflict.

>>15926044
Well obviously, this seething brown half wit says they should have been "treated better" yet if it wasnt for us he would likely already be dead since without white people they have an infant mortality rate of about 50% and 30 year life spans living in mud huts. Everything he has in his useless and pointless brown life that makes it bearable came directly from white people

>>15926047
This is objectively false, letting in non whites increases violent crime and terrorism drastically (some non whites such as north east asians might be an exception), no-go zone ghettos come up, beheadings start etc etc, society becomes dysfunctional.
Thus long-term non white immigration does kill whites.
Just recently the violent crimes we saw in Ireland and France wouldn't have happened if non whites wouldn't have been let in.
Non whites specially from Africa and Middle East have tribal medieval sensibilities, they think in terms of marking territory.

>>15926044
but yah , these idiots cant even feed themselves. If whites had just walled themselves off from the browns this planet would divided into parallel worlds. We were walking on the moon when most cultures on this planet were still in the stone age and would still be on the stone age to this day (perpetually in fact) without white inventions of travel and communication.

>>15926052
Well, low IQ creatures can't think long term, they are like animals, they kill, rape, eat, sleep and die.
With whites gone, civilisation will fall apart rapidly, all these new "Europeans" will literally die off in the cold without food.
Sub saharan Africa, Middle East and India will all starve.

>>15926055
True.
The ultimate stone cold truth of life is - Inequality.
Seething about it (communism) does nothing.

>>15926049
>Seeing the same few cherry picked article headlines on /pol/ over and over is the only way someone would think they're surrounded by racial conflict.
Not him, but I've been to Sweden regularly, talked to average people living around Stockholm and Göteborg. Most of them, especially Whites with children, express a desire to leave Sweden within the next few years if the situation doesn't improve. They talk of going to Norway, but Sweden's issues are already crossing the border, and I'm sure these fools with blindly support the exact same policies that caused Swedish conditions.
Racial conflict? Not necessarily, not yet, though I've met no immigrant who likes Whites either. Which is funny. Do not downplay the effects of it. You don't need to go to "muh /pol/" to see it.

>>15926060
So you admit that western nations haven't been destroyed yet.
If they haven't been destroyed yet, then nothing is happening. A random beheading here and there don't matter in the long run.
Until you can prove that the average person sees racial violence and corruption in their daily lives then you have said nothing of value.
Multicultural societies are a net positive for all people, and no amount of schizophrenia will change that sweaty. Only evidence!

>>15926095
Not yet, no. Increasingly infested with crime to the point where people consider leaving (rare for European countries, mind you), yes.
>A random beheading here and there don't matter in the long run.
This may be the most retarded thing I've read.
>Until you can prove that the average person sees racial violence and corruption in their daily lives then you have said nothing of value.
Alright, I see. Bait.

>>15926053
>This is objectively false
No, saying for every non white immigrant a white person is killed is objectively false. 1 million white people per year are not being killed to make room for immigrants, nor are 1 million white people being killed by immigrants per year

>>15926060
I'm not denying some of these immigrants are causing problems. But people need to look at it critically and stop exaggerating. These crimes by immigrants, which is what they are, are happening in an area that is probably 1% of the country or less. Then some people are flipping out saying the whole country is taken over when in reality it's localised to a couple of suburbs and some small percentage of problematic immigrants. Absolutely something needs to be done about it but people are reacting to it the same way far leftists react to climate change, like is gong to be the end of the world soon. When I look at pictures and videos of Sweden basically everyone is all walking around happy and stuff, it's not like people are being murdered in every street like its some kind of non stop war zone

>>15925199
How fucking dumb do you have to be to have ever imagined there was a benefit to illegal migration?

Sure, maybe argue that legal migration of net loss Eastern Euros is ok because some of them might be productive and they could potentially, if rarerly, integrate. But illegals are explicity illegal for a reason because they are the worst kinds of people who couldn't immigrate legally. The "cost" in those studies is ONLY to the treasury, it does not even include to the billions drained out of Western economies annually through remittance payments.

>>15925218
The Swiss get all the Germans running away from the third world shithole Germany has become.

>>15925713
Cope.

>>15925755
Well said.

>>15925923
>Are ethnic minorities treated poorly in the US?
Ethnic minorities are treated poorly in every single nation on Earth. Mostly they get genocided. In Africa the average minority's life ends seeing their kids butchered and their love ones raped and tortured to death.

>>15926038
>Whites are paying the price for not treating the "minorities" bad enough
>Example - Just Finishing off niggers will solve most of the violent crime problem in US
Precisely. Meanwhile Indonesia today is genociding people. Indonesia resettled 300,000 farmers from its core islands to West Papua to displace natives. China today is genociding its Tibettans and Uyghurs. Myanmar is genociding its Muslims. Pakistan expelled 3 million Afghanis.

No one gave a single fuck because it's all about geopolitical interests and activist don't affect much to begin with. USA should just deport all non-Whites, the country will be happy, peaceful and secure.

>>15926047
Low IQ. Most people are low middle income. When you have massive immigration this massively inflates housing and living costs while lowering wages. Good for corporate profits, but terrible for family birth rates.

>>15926060
There is actual race wars in France tho. It's beyond the scale of random murders, but not full blown organised warfare yet. There will be.

>>15926189
Remember how Notre Dame was just a silly ol' accident? I remember.
A little whoopsie doopsie. Une petite erreur! :^)

>>15926159
>probably 1% of the country or less
No, its not. It's in several Swedish cities and spreading beyond some neighborhoods. Stockholm, Göteborg, Uppsala, Sandviken. Normal people are affected by it now, even if it's mostly niggers killing niggers. And "it's only a small part of the country so it's fine" is utter drivel. Country is country, and Sweden is small. Which is why the Swedes aren't saying "Oh, I'll just move to the countryside", they're saying "Oh, I'll move to Norway".
>Then some people are flipping out saying the whole country is taken over when in reality it's localised to a couple of suburbs and some small percentage of problematic immigrants.
See above. It's more widespread than you think. And there being "good ones" among the bad isn't justification when the above happens.
>When I look at pictures and videos of Sweden basically everyone is all walking around happy and stuff
Cool, so you've not actually been to Sweden? You look at brief glimpses of life in the comfort of their homes and photos you find online? This same thing can be said about any place on Earth, but until you actually ask them how they feel about Sweden and it's state, it's completely useless how you *think* it is. Ask any Swede about what societal problem is his biggest priority, and most of them will say the crime rate and the ridiculous state Sweden finds itself in.
>it's not like people are being murdered in every street like its some kind of non stop war zone
I'm sorry, is this supposed to be a selling point?

>>15926203
Yet again, chuddy doesn't have a single peer reviewed study to back his claims up. Typical.

>>15926189
Haven't been paying much attention to France unfortunately.

>>15926214
Last winter there was a French guy killing Kurds at an immigration centre. Then there were race riots for months. Recently you had the attack by nafris saying "where here to kill White people" where they wiped out the equivalent of a small village.

This is how the race war in Algiers started as well it will slowly build and be a full scale war before you know it. Many French generals have signed letters warning exactly about this issue and they are right.

>>15926229
So what you're saying is... whitey caused it?
Wow, how shocking! /s

>>15926229
>Recently you had the attack by nafris saying "where here to kill White people" where they wiped out the equivalent of a small village.
Oh yeah I remember. 20 people or something?

>>15926234
>20 people
That's so few as to be statistically irrelevant.

>>15926239
you are only one person, it isnt murder if I kill you then so it should be fine

>>15926233
There were countless attacks on Whites before. Think the Paris terror attacks that killed hundreds. The difference is now Muslims are just killing Whites becsause they are different. America is the only White country involved in supporting any MENA country, so they don't use religion as an excuse anymore. It's now just a racial war like it always really was.

>>15926239
What number of genocidal murders do you consider "statistically relevant" before you take action? Does it need to 6 million? At that point you've already lost while before you can win essily or even avoid bloodshed entirely by deporting people who don't belong in the country, have a violent hatred for natives and are a massive net loss to the economy.

>>15926246
The original Europeans were Black.

>>15926249
No they weren't. H. Heidelbergensis and H. neanderthalensis were followed by introgressed EEMH all of which were White and carried at least one of the genes for White skin.

>>15926255
He's baiting.

>>15925199
at least they have good food now though

>>15925793
Irish were never projected to be majority of the US

>>15925923
Because countries that have too many minorities (i.e. brown people) tend to have lower quality of life and be less prosperous.

>>15926458
So how is it then that the most powerful country in the world with the largest economy and most global political clout is 55% non-white?

>>15926514
Both your original post and this one gives me the impression that you're unable to understand a "trend".

>>15926514
America was most powerful back when it was still white (arguably even more so relative tot he rest of the world).
We don't have to speculate though. We know what the fiscal impact of various racial groups is. If there were no blacks and Hispanics US would be running budget surpluses. We know what their crime rate is. We know what their standardizes test scores are.
It's hard to argue against the notion that if every black and Hispanic person was replaced by a white person America wouldn't become better overall.

>>15925755
>The organizations that lobby for all this garbage believe if you bring enough different ethno-cultures together in a single nation you prevent cultural hegemony of any one group
No, they're just jews that hate white people

>>15926585
Just curios, what are the units here? Billions USD per year?

>>15926585
>It's hard to argue against the notion that if every black and Hispanic person was replaced by a white person America wouldn't become better overall.
America would be better off even if they suddenly vanished with no replacement

>>15926598
Yes

>>15926018
If by "reaping" you mean allowing unsustainable levels of immigration to suppress wages

>>15925693
and then at other times, they say it's happening and it's a good thing

>>15926792
It's called a celebration parallax. It's either a dangerous conspiracy theory or a truth to be celebrated, depending on who speaks.

>>15926597
Some of them absolutely are, but it's retarded to act as if that's all that's going on. Even if all the glassy-eyed "we are chosen by god to rule the goyim scum" jews disappeared tomorrow, and even if Soros wasn't a hate filled goblin with a god complex, you'd still have to contend with the moderate-but-paranoid jews, utopian hippies, self-hating whites, transnational business interests, resentful thirdies, and islamist colonizers driving the rest of the movement.
This is a civilization wide suicidal delusion, it doesn't boil down to a simple conspiracy although conspirators abound.

>>15927490
that's true. it's called the lifecycle of empires. Sir John Glubb wrote a good book about it. basically, generations accustomed to comfort and luxury eventually destroy the works of their ancestors, who fought and struggled to provide those pleasant conditions.

>>15926095
> Multicultural societies are a net positive for all people, and no amount of schizophrenia will change that!

You could not be more lost in your own delusional coping mechanims if you were intentionally trying to be. Even people who want more multiculturalism long term recognize that it puts large strains on the sociopolitical stability of the nation.

This is especially the case for the lower classes that "lefty" people pretend to care about. The working class are always the people you sacrifice on the alter of your ideological hubris, and are always the ones that will come to cut your head off when you've made their country unlivable with your suicidal zealotry.

>>15926514
>So how is it then that the most powerful country in the world with the largest economy
This happened over a period of 100 years

>55% non-white?
This happened over the last 20 and as everyone can see, except morons like you apparently, is destroying what the people of the previous 100 years (or arguably back to the founding principles) built

You are a really stupid, I just want to point out

>>15925199
Sounds like a load of bollocks to me, which is probably why you're posting some right-wing attention seeking grifter tweeting out an editorialised article from a blog instead of showing us the study

>>15928345
1. Red Ice is a media company

2. Telegram is not twitter

3. Imagine being too stupid to find a study on your own
https://demo-demo.nl/en/

4. Conclusion: you are low IQ and you are not white (redundant I know)

>>15928356
>Red Ice is a white supremacist multimedia company
Well would you look at what you left out. Regardless, anyone can call themselves a "multimedia company".
>Telegram is not twitter
You're right, it's even lower on the totem pole of credibility, and I can't be arsed with either
>Imagine being too stupid to find a study on your own
I did find it on my own, as well as the inevitable controversy where it was funded by a far-right political party and the prestigious university in question is saying their logo is being used without their permission. But that was of course not the point. The point is that OP isn't presenting us with the facts, but rather with a bunch of white supremacists opining on a flawed study also funded by white supremacists and omitting both the actual contents and surrounding context.

Conclusion: my IQ is clearly higher than yours (and my skin is also whiter than yours, irrelevant, I know)

>>15928439
>white supremacist multimedia company
Ahh yes and everyone who isn't a communist is far right because kikepedia says so. I'm not reading the rest because you have shown yourself to be really fucking stupid

>>15928442
>Ahh yes and everyone who isn't a communist is far right because kikepedia says so.
This is like that article where they interview a guy going "I just don't like how if you don't agree with certain things you're villified" and then the description of the guy includes a Waffen-SS tattoo

>>15928442
>>15928452
>The political spectrum according to Anon:
>Far right (hypothetical; no one knows what this might look like) - Centre (nazis, normal people) - Communists (wikipedia) - Supercommunists (the democratic party) - Hypercommunists (Europeans, Californians) - Ultra-mega-übercommunists (what other people might consider actual communists)

>>15928463
>no you

>>15926173
Are you saying that it’s legitimate to flee a third-world country for economic reasons?

>>15928515
>Pre-emptive no u while you accuse the other side of that of which you yourself are guilty

we could have colonized the whole solar system by now
the whole planet could be running on nuclear power

>>15928533
the "everyone I dont agree with is Hitler" meme came out at least 8 years ago in 2015. You are 8 years late to the party to be espousing the people who made the meme are in fact the ones memeing "everyone who disagrees with me is a communist." The left can't meme because you are liars and everything you claim is projection, gaslighting and lies. You can only fool people who dont know your nature and that is only for a short while even though you control all the institutions and censor everyone who exposes who and what you really are. But thankfully Elon helped end all that so now everyone can see what the "evil nazi white supremes" have been saying all along is true, and you are all lying, scheming, degenerate, evil sacks of lying shit and no matter how much lying you do the cat is out of the bag and you have gone from the hunter to the hunted. Your time is over and there will be a reckoning

>>15928552
You're deranged lmao

Guess I'd better get a gun licence because the right is coming unhinged

>>15928552
>the "everyone I dont agree with is Hitler" meme came out at least 8 years ago in 2015.
Yeah. From literal nazis. And you've been doing this "wikipedia is communists, Biden is a communist, Dems are communists, everyone is a communist" spiel the whole time. And guess what? All those people insisting "not everyone you disagree with is a nazi!" defend people waving literal swastika flags. The people shouting "careful, those guys are nazis" were proven correct every time. How can you so brazenly pretend that reality is the complete opposite of what it is WHILST COMPLAINING ABOUT GASLIGHTING AND PROJECTION? You are, without a doubt, the purest distillation of rightoid irrationality I've yet encountered. Absolutely maddeningly beyond the reach of any reason. Just a lump of burning coal where your brain ought to be.

>>15928569
>literal nazis
wtf are you smoking? is there a quantum tunnel that lets NSDAP party members from 1940's Germany interact with us?

>>15928584
>Ackchually it's not nazism unless it's from the nazi region in Germany, otherwise it's just sparkling fascism
Played out and feeble defence.

>>15928561
I have been a left leaning liberal my entire life. Never voted for any Republican until 2016. The only people who ever called me "right wing" were ...... wait for it ..... communists!

>>15928602
In a way I feel sorry for you. You're clearly just not mentally okay. I hope you will one day get the help you so obviously need.
>The only people who ever called me "right wing" were ...... wait for it ..... communists!
Not everyone you disagree with is a communist. You voted for a fascist though so calling you a fascist is just objectively true.

>>15928609
he is right >>15928356 you arent white

>>15928624
I am of Austrian/Dutch descent. You really are insistent on being wrong in every possible way.

Isn't it funny how this lifelong "left-leaning liberal" came to fully embrace fascism because a rare few alleged communists called him "right wing"? How does that work?

>>15925199
Now you just have to figure out who stole the most of those money.
a must see: https://robscholtemuseum.nl/feature-films-theo-van-gogh-0605-may-th-2004-english-subtitles/ (the movie for which that guy was ACTUALLY murdered, the video is on that page)
a must read: https://www.dagelijksestandaard.nl/politiek/te-ranzig-prinses-beatrix-koos-naam-volkert-zelf-voor-haar-paard-en-deed-dat-toen-volkert-van-der-graaf-vrijkwam

>>15928632
This level of mental illness, though common enough at this website, never fails to make me lol

>>15928659
Look man, you're clearly making irrational race-based assumptions that are trivially disproven, your story is fully of holes, and you've stopped responding to individual points instead opting to dump some unhinged tweet compilations. You have no business calling anyone mentally ill.

>>15928670
look man you are clearly a jew, a tranny, or a jewish tranny and unhinged so you have no room to be talking about anyone's mental stability

>>15928699
Note how you can only refer to stereotypes and assumptions whereas I'm referring to your actual words and deeds?

>>15928699
Here we witness the functional purpose of anti-Semitism within reactionary ideology: when the poorly coping reactionary brain collides with reality, it can reconcile the cognitive dissonance by resorting to a category that is white-yet-not-white, so that the ill-founded hierarchy may remain intact and the delusion of superiority maintained.

>>15926210
Are you really challenging Chud when it comes to crime statistics? You must be the biggest idiot here.

>>15925199
400 billion across 14 years is basically nothing.

>>15928965
>Here we witness the functional purpose of anti-Semitism within reactionary ideology:
Based right? TKD

>>15929701
€30 billion annually against a (2023) spending of €433.6 billion, I wouldn't call that basically nothing.