/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15922341
Glass the Earth, demigod war eventually

https://twitter.com/tszzl/status/1735144448663990742

Reminder schizos were right once again.

>>15922350
Reminder taking the side of the richest man in the world makes you retarded. Elon is now bribing FCC officials, and that's worth looking into. Biden will get the last laugh

On breaking news, NASA is now gaslighting SpaceX and want SpaceX to stop commercial space.

The next admin needs to take a chainsaw to some agencies, remove the rot

>>15922341

>ars commenters are celebrating that starlink lost fcc funding
actual cutting off your nose to spite your face

Besides KSP, what are some essential /sfg/ vidya?

>>15922155
japan and china (but not korea) are years ahead of the rest of the world with vtubing. alot of streams and shows are mixed reality, where they have real people and vtubers on the same set together like in the pic.

>>15922386
Starfield™, the hit game produced by beloved studio Bethesda™, of course. It's the quintessential game to play for any and all space enthusiasts.

>>15922402
Todd should go to prison for making me see his dogshit games

>>15922354
this post is extremely low quality

reminder that elon is being attacked on all sides
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/12/more-than-2-million-teslas-are-being-recalled-due-to-unsafe-autopilot/
nhtsa doing a forced recall on teslas because a third party found them to be unsafe

>>15922386
Simplerockets: 2d intro to orbital mechanics and rocketry basics like staging. Like a (much) simpler KSP. This could be a good gateway drug for people who are too intimidated by KSP. I have ~20 hours on Steam.

Simpleplanes: Pretty easy to use but interesting aerodynamics simulator. I have ~2000 hours on Steam, and hundreds more on my phone.

Simplerockets 2 (renamed Juno): 3d rocket simulator, has some things better than KSP and some things worse. I have ~100 hours on Steam.

Factorio: factory simulator. Basically what we will need to do when we go to Mars/Moon/Alpha Centauri etc. I have ~7000 hours on Steam.

>>15922446
BETRAYED BY THE NINE

>>15922446
2 million teslas got a software update oh the horror we'll never make it to mars now sell tesla stock

>>15922446
Its also just an update to add bit more notification to autopilot. LMAO

Its literally a nothingburger

>>15922470
>>15922458
its the beginning of the end of elons empire
the MAN is coming

My lord its FINALLY MOVING! S28 is about to rollout, SPMTs already close to it and S30 moved out of the way.

Ive got my final final tomorrow and then I get to go home. God I hate electricity and mangetism. When do I get to do fluid dynamics??

>>15922386
Hey, someone's gotta disassemble all them rockets when they reach end of life.

>>15922482
>When do I get to do fluid dynamics??
you don't

>>15922500
Im not an EE major though shouldnt I get to do it at SOME point in my degree?

why's it so dead

>>15922577
I'm fucking the intern girl and she has a boyfriend

>>15922577
BECAUSE ELAN ISNT LAUNCHING THE BLODDY ROGKET BASTARD

>>15922446
A software patch being presented as a massive recall by yellow journalism.

>>15922591
Its not just journalism doing it, its the regulators actively doing it. A while ago they released the number of autopilot crashes. Without any reference to any other crash. Or from any other company. The journos used it to claim autopilot was unsafe.

These aren't done accidentally or innocently. Its political.

>>15922386
Orbiter

https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1BdxYrmEDazKX

Roll out Ship 28

>>15922606

>>15922628

>>15922676

what agency is gonna delay IFT-3?

>>15922708
If Biden has his way, department of transportation

>>15922708
ntsb will get full control of the accident investigation
they will also ground falcon 9 because fuck you

>>15922708
The National Council on Disability
launch tower lacks wheelchair access ramp

tape outgas propulsion interstellar transfer stage

>>15922729
outgassing isn't even real
i have never seen it

>>15922019
>>15921981
To respond to this from Mike's blog, it doesn't work because the radius of the universe has changed with expansion. Both the radius and min acceleration would change in cosmic history, according to QI the min acceleration is 2c^2/Dh. So the acceleration should be different, the radius certainly isn't. You can't talk about expansion and then assume everything is constant.
This is fucking numerology level bullshit. It's nice he's returning to his crackpot roots.

>>15922386
Stop wasting your time on video games. Read Ignition, Rocket Propulsion Elements and Fundamentals of Astrodynamics and Applications.

>>15922482
Low IQ spotted.

On Starship how do you keep your cryo propellants at liquid temperature? It will require some revolutionary technology which hasnt been done before. ULA's advanced cryogenic upper stage can only operate for 12 hours, and ULA is better than SpaceX at long duration flight

>Voyager 1 is dead
Pack it up boys it is over

>>15922804
>It will require some revolutionary technology which hasnt been done before.
It won't. LNG reliquefaction has been done before.
https://www.wartsila.com/encyclopedia/term/lng-reliquefaction-system

>>15922816
ok, where is your connection to the power grid to do that when you are on the moon? and how heavy will the machinery be to cool the entire tank wall?

>>15922482
If you are were following the same path I did for undergrad. Electricity and magnetism would be in you physics class 2nd semester freshman year, and you will continue with that in an analog circuit class 1st semester sophomore year. Fluids was 2nd semester sophomore year, alongside thermodynamics. Aerodynamic 1 in the first semester of junior year, with aero 2 and experimental aerodynamics (aero lab) the following semester.

Now if you are in a worse program, I have seen ones where you don't do Aerospace specific classes until second semester junior year, and it is like they waste you time in general education and then general engineering before letting you do your major specific stuff. If I had to guess this is done so undecided people can go in without a plan and they don't have to nail down what they want to do until junior year.

>>15922676
This makes me want to see if they ever did something like this for the Saturn V, even if it was a tank or something, imagine this as part of your town's Christmas parade, or better yet if it was in the capital or the Macy's Thanksgiving parade. Now I am sad, I want more companies showing of what they can do while being festive.

>>15922807
Just wait
https://youtu.be/905BdIg36Rk

>>15922840
by an ad.

>>15922804
thats a hydrogen upper stage, you're comparing apples to oranges.
>inb4 but methalox is still cryog-
i know.

every other space company is headed by anti-christmas atheists. Christmas and the birth of Christ will be celebrated on Mars.

>Finally... Cartoon snowmen and top hats... true western values

someone needs to put melon in jail and throw away the key. i hate what he did to my favourite social media platform.

>>15922876
santa deniers when the orbital rocket company building a rocket to mars believes in santa

>>15922884
have you tried not being a fucking bitch?

>>15922880
It was actually Frosty the Snowman who helped Jesus carry the Christmas tree to Golgota

>>15922494
fun game but I didn't complete it because the characters were so annoying
>the corporation is evil because you signed up to work in space doing this incredibly fun job for which you get paid handsomely
>better commit industrial sabotage and stick it to the man

>>15922386
Re-entry

Learn just how much an astronaut needed to know to fly a capsule in space

How long until they have a full rocket?

https://x.com/stoke_space/status/1735298587251081259?s=46&t=ySaWSLoZU6lwZ7u03-FcBQ

>>15922899
didn't buy it for this reason, apparently you can't even skip the commie backstory and it gets forcefed to you in neverending cutscenes

>>15922807
>it's real

>>15922899
>incredibly fun job for which you get paid handsomely
to pay off your trillion-dollar debt, for which you are essentially enslaved

>>15922930
Die redditor

>>15922912
2 fortnights

>>15922733
Have you ever smelled new car smell?

>>15922804
Are you from an uncontacted Amazon tribe? The rest of us have refrigerators, even in the third world.

>>15922933
that's nice, please face the wall nigger

>>15922886
Fuck off tedditcel ywnbaw

>>15922820
You are a fucking retard. They need power on the moon either way.

>>15922950
i will never be a woman because i dont want to be one, you however, will never be a man.

https://twitter.com/deltaIV9250/status/1735290603229811066

>>15922977
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*sniff*
delicious fresh seethe.

>>15922977

>>15922386
Starflight on Sega Genesis

SPACE TOURISM HERE WE COME


https://x.com/spaceperspectiv/status/1735306744488751197?s=46&t=ySaWSLoZU6lwZ7u03-FcBQ

> MAJOR MILESTONE ALERT Spaceship Neptune's capsule structure is now complete! This #capsule will be used in our next test #flight, which we are calling Flight 2. In 2021, we successfully flew a capsule simulator to #space with Flight 1. Since then, we’ve been designing and manufacturing the pressurized capsule, which will be used in our upcoming uncrewed flights to test corner cases. Data gathered will inform the build of a commercial-grade capsule and pave the wave for crewed test flights later next year. The completion of the capsule structure is the result of highly #complex and integrated work that our Founder, Co-CEO and CTO, Taber MacCallum, calls “one of the greatest iterative collaborations I have ever seen,” and marks a pivotal step toward offering the world an extraordinary, completely reimagined #spaceflight #experience.

>>15922988

>>15922446
The writer of this is a bad faith actor, a propagandist, and should be beaten until he stops

>China announces a modified Long March 2F carrying a reusable spacecraft was successfully launched at Jiuquan Launch Center on December 14.
>The test spacecraft will operate in orbit for a period of time and then return to a landing site in China. During this period, technology verification and space science experiments will be carried out as planned to provide technical support for the peaceful use of space.

>>15922993
*dies

>>15923000
>2045
>starships are launching daily
>long march 400Z is the latest starship clone, launching weekly and occasionally exploding because it's made of chinese steel
the future is funny

>>15923004
That would make him stop, yes

journalist + lamppost = ?

>>15923000
https://spacenews.com/china-launches-mystery-reusable-spaceplane-for-third-time/
articles out already
china watchers are pretty quick i must say
but not as quick as me ;)
maybe i should get a job at spacenews

>>15922977
https://nitter.net/C_S_Skeptic/status/1735045323704426608#m
wew lad, i know this isnt spaceflight related but holy shit, you can just feel the radiant seethe through your sceen.

>>15923023
At least it wasn't a screen cap so I don't HAVE to read that crap

>>15923030
that's exactly why i didn't screenshot it.

water hammer

>>15923031
Thank you anon I appreciate that.

>>15923012
This is why they delayed the X-37 launch

>>15923007

moisture gavel

>>15923039
>>15923000
I don't think that rocket is designed for GTO missions so it might actually just be a coincidence lol

>>15923034

>>15923055
Shocking how one of these killed human apsirations of Mars.

>>15923055
>>15923068
they're not that dangerous on their own, but when operated by women?
oof...

If you dropped a water hammer and a feather on the moon they would both fall down

>>15922341
>>15922446
>>15922977
When are we leaving this planet bros? I'm tired of all the delays. I want to explore the galaxy before I die why is it taking so long?

>>15923092
I have a feeling the water hammer would do some serious damage to the surface. Elon ignored them and now Starship is doomed...

>>15922876
actual sovl

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsUDWXI5KbM

>>15922989
Will you fly in ze ball?

>>15923110
>only 24 views
looks like there are only 24 real spaceflight fans in the world, everyone else just wants to obsess over elon (right wingers) or nasa (left wingers)

>>15923115
wtf is this shit

https://www.pcmag.com/news/spacex-starlink-now-has-13-million-customers-in-the-us

>>15923115
no because its not real spacetravel.

>>15923118
it was a boring video with no real new information

i am glad to see the fluid hammer meme has properly infested SFG.

>>15923095
>why is it taking so long?
democrats

Amazon seeks dismissal of Project Kuiper launch contract lawsuit

>https://spacenews.com/amazon-seeks-dismissal-of-project-kuiper-launch-contract-lawsuit/

>The lawsuit claimed that the board performed little diligence on the proposed contracts to launch the 3,236-satellite constellation with the Ariane 6, New Glenn and Vulcan Centaur rockets.
>The Amazon filing does not discuss changes in Amazon’s plans since the lawsuit was filed in August. Amazon announced Dec. 1 it had signed a contract with SpaceX for three Falcon 9 launches of Project Kuiper satellites starting in mid-2025.

Many keks. Amazon must be delusional to think that those 3 SpaceX contracts weren't made simply to try and fight the lawsuit.

Vast removed the spinning space station from the 2040s roadmap

https://www.vastspace.com/roadmap

F

>>15923138
maybe they have new designs

>>15923138
vastsisters... its over.

>>15923118
only 24 unique IPs ITT

Why the US and China planned to launch simultaneously 2 spaceplanes?

In this podcast Tory Bruno says its impossible to terraform Mars because there is less CO2 than people previously thought. Is this true?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcel_HM0whI

Wait is it true that nasa wants to stop the learning period?

>>15923135
So we were right they got those launches to try and get rid of this case
What a fucking joke

>>15923148
They're gonna have a space dogfight but they won't let us watch because they hate us

>>15923148
>shuttle vs buran all over again
we really are in a second cold war

>>15923173
shuttle was ahead of buran, it could have jsut captured buran in its payload bay.

>>15923153
tory is a snake and has lied on multiple occassions in the past to defend his company's relevance.
i used to trust him but after years of him tryin to skirt reality in favour of shilling his business i honestly dont believe a word that comes out of his mouth.

>>15923178
so hes just bullshitting about mars?

>>15922824
Well I'm not a dedicated AE, I took ME concentration aerospace so for me its kind of expected. This is 1st semester sophmore though, next I've got dynamics, structure, structure and properties of materials, diff eq etc. 1st semester junior I can take concentration classes and I have thermo and mech lab. Fluid mechbics is required at 2nd semester junior but I could probably take a concentration class in that 1st semester right.

>>15923185
i wouldnt be surprised, he's bullshitted about high energy trajectory niches on twitter many times before and completely ignored when people poked holes in his little chart.

>>15923185
Most likely technically correct but lying by omission, didn't bother to watch the video

>>15923185
>>15923189
PS. it's also kind of irrelevant even if it is true, properly terraforming mars is going to take monumental time, money and effort anyway, considering everything else you'd need to have in place to actually terraform it, you would have to bring large amounts of mass from off-world anyway, so it's a moot point to begin with.

>>15923173
Those are orbital nuclear bombers, right? Designed to spend years in orbit with their bellies full of bombs, ready to launch a sneaky attack. And at the end of their lifespan they can just land in a military base, their unused bombs recovered. So they don't waste good bombs and don't release 235U and 239Pu in the atmosphere as it would happen it they were to burn at the reentry instead of landing.

>>15923198
The X37b is tiny, you're not gonna fit many nukes in there

https://twitter.com/wetalktesla/status/1735359074382823873

Brendan Carr being interviewed

>>15923178
>>15923153
ULA has no future. ULA will only do 3 launches in 2023. SpaceX will do around 100. I used MS Paint to put both companies launch histories in the same scale. As SpaceX's launches grew, ULA's shrank. Now with Atlas and Delta retired, they're left beholden to BO for engines, and BO has shown no capacity to deliver anything on time. Because ULA has tiny & unreliable current and future cash flows, if it does sell it will be for a pittance. Everyone who is paying attention can see the writing on the wall. Their reliance on BO and the success of SpaceX has killed them.

https://twitter.com/lexfridman/status/1735360877312778404

>>15923224
Looks like over an hour long discussion with respect to spaceflight topics

Get in here bros. FCC commissioner who dissented against the actions of the FCC with regards to Starlink is in a Twitter space explaining how the FCC is going to fuck with Elon and Spacex
https://x.com/i/spaces/1mnxepDgvLvJX

>>15923240
How can the sitting FCC commissioner dissent like this? Isn't the president his boss since it's a federal agency.

What would the average lunar hab block look like?

>>15923261
like a prison cell but you dont even have the freedom to take off your suit and enjoy the fresh air during yard time.

>>15923224
COOL

>>15923224
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcWqzZ3I2cY

>>15923245
They're appointed for 5 year terms and it has to be two Republicans and three Democrats or two Democrats and three Republicans, so this is the normal situation.

Voyager-chan... speak to us... please...

>>15923288
>>15923224
stop advertising. by an ad.

>>15923221
ULA will have a minimum of four launches: the last Delta IV Heavy, the last NRO Atlas, Starliner’s CFT, and Vulcan’s first flight.

>>15923319
hes a salty retard who irrationally hates ula becuase he thinks oldspace le bad, ignore him.

>>15922676
Nice. This is all the Christmas celebrations that SpaceX employees get.

>>15923288
>>15923224
so jef in this interview basically said he wants to rapidly increase Blue Origins pace and make decisive design choices quickly, even if they are proven wrong down the road. Sound like he wants to copy Elons style of leadership which I guess is a compliemnt. I hope it's real and not just hot air.

>>15923337
>Make decisive design choices quickly, even if they are proven wrong down the road
Yet they are launching high profile satellites on the first NG launch?

>>15923344
I think he means about future things. NG has been in development for like 15 years under a snails pace leadership, so I think it will deliver payload sucessfully on the first launch just like how Falcon 9 did.

>>15923349
Fair enough. I sure hope the first launch goes well.

>>15923337
that sounds very promising, I guess he got sick of sitting on yachts, the change in leadership in BO was an indication of this already

Is Varda's spacecraft reentry still getting cockblocked by the FAA? I haven't heard anything about it in a while

>>15923359
spacecraft is dead

>>15923215
To Carr-
AYO NIGGA WUT DA FAK

>>15923315
shut up retard

https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1735369700153147446

>>15923344
ESCAPADE is not a high profile launch, it is the same category as the TOPICS mission given to Astra.

If New Glenn fails NASA will not be happy but it will not be a devastating loss for them.

Nobody posted the chinkrocket with a winter jacket?

>>15923419

https://twitter.com/TrungTPhan/status/1735405627252576619

>>15923371
At least it's got proper legs. The first Starship on Mars will topple over within 5 minutes after landing and /sfg/ seethe will hit the roof, because it will be another 2 years before they send another one.

>>15923434
they will send multiple if they don't get cockblocked, why wouldn't they?

>>15923437
They use up all their launches on the refuelling flights.

>>15923447
like I said, if they don't get cockblocked (which there are multiple ways)

https://twitter.com/StarshipGazer/status/1735413779033211283

>>15923461

>>15923463

>>15923477
I thought they were removing the suborbital pad? maybe it was just modifications

>>15923224
He's so bogged he can't even talk properly anymore lol

>>15923481
They are removing test stand A. Ship 28 is at stand B.

>>15923224
he seems to have a simplistic view of spaceflight

>>15923520
oh, and youre much smarter?

>>15923224
Didn't realize I was so much smarter than Bezos

>>15923463
I'm not gay, but a trip to Mars is a trip to Mars

>>15922386
LMAO. I only see answers made by weak people.
REAL MEN WOULD MENTION STAR SECTOR.
You all disgust me. Deeply.

>>15922386
Vidya?

at 57:30 fridman asks should BO go faster?
Bezos says that is one of the reasons he left Amazon, BO needs him
I guess it took a few years to catch up with the rocket engineering

we are going to become the most decisive company

wold be knida fun if spacex gets completely rekt by bo after chatting so much smack.

>>15923611
Gradatim ferociterbros???

>>15923288
"we're gonna become the worlds most decisive company, across any industry"
extreme delusions of grandeur from baldy

>>15923617
at 1:01 he talks about there being one-way and two-way decisions, at amazon he had to be the person slowing things down because people came to him with decisions that were one way and he had like 3 other ways to do it which needed to be analyzed
also talked about when he was the CEO of a publically traded company (Amazon), he had to only do that because he has the responsibility to the shareholders yada yada
I really do hope he starts actually ramping shit up now
two SpaceX-tier companies instead of just one
I wonder if he is able to do it, just changing the culture is going to be quite difficult

does spacex frictoin-stir weld the joint on starship?

>>15923616
Even if they buy out ULA and get both the Vulcan and New Glenn up to their max flight rate they can only manage about 20% of the mass-to-orbit that Falcon 9 manged this year.

>>15923138
QI means we can have artificial gravity without spinning, evidently Vast have taken this into consideration

>>15923153
You just bring whatever you need from elsewhere. You'll bring nitrogen by means of ammonia ice from beyond belt, and water ice likewise for water and oxygen

>>15923628
No, and it would be highly impractical to try. Not many materials exist that are significantly harder than stainless steel, and the mixing technique of friction stir welding might not play well with the bulk composition of the alloy. FSW is best used in highly soft and ductile materials, of which stainless is neither.

>>15923621
I wouldn't count him out yet if he actually only recently started paying attention to Blue Origin
its not delusion, he built Amazon, one of the largest companies in the world

in the very least if BO starts accomplishing something it gives the pro-space but anti-musk people a way to champion space stuff other than funneling all money into NASA
stuff that will be beneficial to SpaceX as well like less retarded regulation

>>15923649
It's too late. By the time NG is flying regularly, Starship will have been flying regularly and F9 will still exist.

>>15923650
if BO started accomplishing things maybe 5 years ago, but at this point they're so late to the party that the best thing they could do is dissolve into a couple dozen startups focusing on something other than LVs

>>15923649
Jef said in the interview that the hard part of making a rocket is making the production line to make the rocket, it echoed what Musk says about Teslas, and it got me thingking. Starship has a long way to go, they will need to build the worlds biggest rocket factory, building them outdoors with random mexican assembly quality wont suffice once they are trying to get past prototype

>>15923654
but BO supposedly has a number of internal projects other than just New Glenn like the space tug, lunar ISRU, lunar lander

>>15923653
>>15923654
you overestimate the readiness of starship and underestimate the readiness of NG. NG will fly next year 100%, and will work. Starship still has at least a year if all goes perfectly until it's mature enough for customers, and probably wont be fully operational with booster and ship recovery for 2 years at least

>>15923621
Use greentext and lurk moar twitchnigger. Nobody uses this normiecoal of 4chan.

>>15922341
Haven't been here a few days, does someone know if there is now a date for third orbital flight attempt?

>>15923658
yes, Starfactory is nearly ready though

>>15922446
He shouldn't have made Twitter free speech. This is the price.

>>15923664

>>15923668
no

>>15923670
isnt that for making starlinks?

>>15923654
SpaceX got completely stuck. Meanwhile BO is ready for their New Glenn launch and BO is known for succeeding on first launch

>>15922446
do you think on some internal government document somewhere there's a link to those porn videos where the guy fucks women in the driver's seat while autopilot is on

>>15923668
What kind of attire is THAT?
Better than the cowboy look I guess

>>15923674
lol

>>15923664
I think it's more likely than not that New Glenn will at least make a launch attempt next year. Starship will also reach initial operational status next year, but it's going to be putting in work practicing fuel transfers for Artemis and launching Starlinks for a while before it gets listed for commercial customers. SpaceX wouldn't be planning on trying for 150 launch years in 2024 and 2025 for the Falcon 9 if Starship was almost ready for prime time.

On the other hand, Blue's said in the past that they were planning for a monthly launch cadence for New Glenn at its peak, which seems to be a significant lack of ambition considering the competition it's up against.

>>15923668
nice sparkly t-shirt you got there Bozo

>>15923671
it is necessary
imagine a situation with Musk having no twitter and these attacks happening + Musk being banned from every platform
it would be much, much worse

>>15923679
you can find that on pornhub

>>15923224
As long as he's serving the cancer with the washington glowpost he's still a huge earther to me

>>15923426
even fucking bezos can admit this and those with EDS just cant

>>15923682
Blue of the past was when Jef was in his yacht phase and they were just grifting for his money to share with oldspace. I think now that Jef is switched on there is urgency in the company. He has a lot of work to change the company culture, but it was his idea to get that NASA contract where they have to hit a 2024 launch window. If he really is invested now then at very worst case they miss the launch window and he goes ballistic and fires most grifters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds_JRb_d7Ck

27min episode

>>15923426
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anyN8lj51Ds

imagine a world where we could get kino from more than one launch company. Hopefully Blue stops beingso secretive and pushes stuff to failure in fun ways now that Jef is at the helm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqVoOC2azZI
> How do you deal with stress Jeff Bezos
was it boredom or stress that got Bezos to leave the yachting life?

>>15923698
he said he is extremely worried about the first launch but said you would have to be deranged not to be
I'm not sure they could change to a hardware rich approach very quickly, but who knows
the comments about one-way and two-way door decisions also makes me think he is a bit more risk averse than musk that just seems to send it every time and then drops even years of work if it seems like a bad idea after all (an example being carbon fibre Starship)

>>15923224
>focusing on cheap 2nd stage rather than reuse

The "nonzero chance BO will have the most advanced rocket" anon has been BTFO.

>>15923224
Bezos is alright in my books. Gets more hate here than he deserves.

>>15923705
what Jef said about one way door decisions is true, an example being the diameter of starship.
They downsized the ship significantly from the 2016 variant primarily because they had so much trouble making large carbon fiber tanks, but when they made the switch to steel they didnt increase the diameter again, and over the course of the steel era we have seen them increase the length of the ship and booster edging back toward 2016 performance. Ultimately they will be stuck with another pencil shape rocket which is worse than taking the time to realize they should have upped the diameter. Ship landing tolerances will be worse on other worlds, and the booster will need to use more prop to land amongst many disadvantages

>>15923714
lol I think the hate was deserved, he basically admitted not giving a shit about BO for the time he was running Amazon

>>15923714
His heart is in the right place, but his inner jew keeps kicking in

>>15923719
He's not Jewish.

Was Bezos also bullied ?

are there actual paid shills ITT?
what the fuck is going on in this thread
go away

>>15923725
musk doesnt pay you?

>I merely mention how Bezos is alright
>schizoid muskrat immediately starts speculating about shilling

>>15923715
better this than faffing about for years
Starship system gen 2 can be made eventually

>>15923715
Damn, you sound so smart. Maybe you should start making rockets?

https://twitter.com/VickiCocks15/status/1735333709367185627

>>15923732
Musk said it : )

>>15923737
Musk says a lot of things

>>15923739

>>15923741

>>15923743

>>15923744
> Falcon Heavy USSF-52 horizontal before heading into the hanger.

>>15923746

>>15923748

>>15923749
that weird rig is strange. why dont they just put it on the ground and pull it with a rope?

https://twitter.com/AdrianDittmann/status/1735397436406026686

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6EVP3AtD4Q

Is Bezos actually based?

https://twitter.com/SERobinsonJr/status/1735407737071149546

>>15923755

I just realized, Bezos has technically been to space, Musk hasn't yet

jeff stop posting in sfg

Jeff Bezos says what we’re all thinking: “Blue Origin needs to be much faster”
"We're going to become the world's most decisive company across any industry."
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https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/12/jeff-bezos-says-what-were-all-thinking-blue-origin-needs-to-be-much-faster/
> During the interview, Bezos candidly acknowledged this. "Blue Origin needs to be much faster, and it's one of the reasons that I left my role as the CEO of Amazon a couple of years ago," he said. "I wanted to come in, and Blue Origin needs me right now. Adding some energy, some sense of urgency. We need to move much faster. And we're going to."

Project Kuiper prototypes successfully test inter-satellite optical links
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https://spacenews.com/project-kuiper-prototypes-successfully-test-inter-satellite-optical-links/
> KuiperSat-1 and KuiperSat-2 used onboard optical communications payloads to maintain a two-way 100 gigabits per second (Gbps) link for around an hour at a time, Project Kuiper vice president Rajeev Badyal said in an interview.

>>15923740
you have said the actual truth

>>15923766
kek I thought this image was a shop

https://twitter.com/relativityspace/status/1735364638861345254 (video)
First test fire of a full Aeon R

>>15923740
god he's such a fat fuck

>>15923776
https://twitter.com/relativityspace/status/1735365227452174459

>>15923780
> Aeon R vs Aeon 1 context: The flight config of Aeon R will have 11x the thrust, a 3x larger exit diameter and be 1.7x taller than our Aeon 1 engine

>>15923781
the next few years are going to be very interesting for spaceflight even ignoring Starship
I just wonder how viable thes businesses are going to be
maybe there will be so much demand for megaconstellation launches that the market will be launch constrained

>>15923722
He automatically received Israeli citizenship after his first billion

>>15923711
are you retarded? It's better than Falcon 9. No one has ever said it'll be better than Starship, just that it'll be operational first

>>15923755
The Wipeout reboot is looking good

I'm a 1 but I like Bezos. The hate here was justified when it was about the contract BS he tried to pull for HLS but now it's transformed into a much more retarded form of hatred where BO is some irrelevant company.
BE-4 is done, that's the hardest part. Their factory is mostly done, the first NG is almost ready and it's an ambitious design. They're not going to beat SpaceX obviously but they're a clear second and the market has more than enough space for them

>>15923674
there is a separate smaller building being built in starbase for the starlink satellites, a big factory near austin next to a boring company facility for terminals if I remember correctly and the initial terminals and starlink satellites were built in seattle or something like that
Starfactory is going to be for Starship manufacturing

>>15923818
yeah, the lawsuits and other shit was annoying because it actually might have slowed things down but if Bezos stops doing retarded shit like that then i'm not going to hate him anymore
don't really hold grudges
Musk and Bezos have both spoken about each other positively lately, perhaps they could collaborate in some manner in the future
let bezos build the moon infrastructure so SpaceX can start building on Mars

https://twitter.com/Alexphysics13/status/1735442194645803048

>>15923776
https://twitter.com/thetimellis/status/1735365765807878449

https://twitter.com/torybruno/status/1735315549834424380
> Now that is a big solid rocket motor casting pit!!

>>15923841
Now that is a big waste of time and money!!

>>15923759
There are two men in this picture

Reminder that if youre not fully reusable youre NGMI.

surprising how little bezos knows about spaceflight

>>15923841
why did Amazon give the bulk of the kuiper contract to ULA? seems like such a kick in the teeth to Jef.

>>15923776
cool

>>15923855
it's like SpaceX partnering with Ford instead of Tesla

>>15923855
The other contestants were New Glenn, which was significantly behind in development and not moving nearly as fast, and Ariane 6, which was being developed by the usual European suspects.

Jeff Bezos is actually a cool guy. I don't agree when people gave him shit for spewing champagne all over Spock or whatever. spock was being a total overemotionally dramatic fag. Bezos was having fun (based) Spock was cringe

>>15923865
3/5 bait, should work for some

>>15923865
Spock is cringe but that goes for all of Star Wars/Trek

a little birdie told me that doaces has to do a complete redesign on the heat shield attachment points and that they know the entire series of completed ships are doomed to fail on reentry. musk is currently mad.

>>15923871
>doaces
absolute phoneposting gore

>>15923866
you think jeff should have let that sappy fag ramble on about the muh overview effect? you and i both know it's bullshit

>>15923633
You'd need to do this for 10s of thousands of years

>>15923878
kind of funny to interrupt the speech and spray alcohol all over an old alcoholic when you think about it

>>15923878
>See earth from space
>Wow dude this is so ebin
>Fuck borders and shit one love man
>Daughter gets raped by feral niggers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqC5jjwidrA
>and here's where we machine the 20 million dollar space chairs

>>15923776

>>15923885
>Com'ere! I want one!
>Here, you want a little of this?
>No...
>*sprays it all over screaming bogged goblin*
>*throws bottle in the dirt*
>*silence*
>*place hand on shatner's shoulder*
>*silence*
>*more champagne spraying and girls screaming*
KEK

>>15923665
>WAAAH WAAAH
"use the meme arrow!!"
i don't give a fuck you stupid nigger
>verification not required

>>15923865
Shatner is actually the most skilled of all the Trek main actors.

>>15923715
This will easily be fixed with Starship 2

>>15923922
What does that even mean

>>15923935
Fucking zoomers I swear to god.

>>15923922
most over-the-top, hammy, self-indulgent

>>15923942
I do fuck a lot of zoomers, thank you

>>15923946
Translated:
>I don't fuck anybody

>>15923954
You will find love one day anon

Blue Origin will own the Moon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLwTLqaCnQ8
T-30:00

>>15923966
Jeff Who Electric Boogaloo

>>15923973
RLs failure rate is trash

Bezos didnt have much to say about Elon. He's still seething

who is the moon god and why are they awakening?

>>15923973
hobbit live now

>>15923359
Why not just land in ocean/australia?

>>15923998
cute!

>>15923973
this better not fucking scrub. I can't take another let down.

I will kill myself if they scrub this launch.

>>15923696
Buy an ad

>10 Electron launches
>2nd most launched american rocket this year
it's a lonely 2nd place being so far from both ends

what happened?
when is he coming back???

https://youtu.be/DcWqzZ3I2cY?si=skOqj1Mn7SvPcs-M
Good podcast with jeff bezos on New Glenn, etc. Insightful

>>15924011
i forgot the password

these goblins have nothing on Jessie and Katie

>>15924014
they look like human shrek

>>15924012
amazon is not a space company. amazon really lost its way since jeff left.

>>15923973
T-10:00

>>15924012
fridman is unbearable to listen to

>>15924019
Are you stupid? Blue Origin

>>15924021
why are you listening lex friedman? listen jeff benzos

>>15924022
are you of the opinion that amazon shareholders should enrich jeff bezos' vanity project by snubbing the least expensive launch service provider?

>>15923985
makes it more fun. nobody watches falcon launches. Rocket Lab has a chance to drop the ball. that's suspense

>>15923973
3 minutes

>>15923688
He said "leader" not scientist or engineer. Musk doesn't even have a degree. He's just gotten lucky that's it with a few people he hired to do all the work then it snowballed from there.

>>15924034
where is booba? :(

launchcat.gif

>>15923755
Booba

Max Qute!

>>15924030
I dont know what youre implying but you have no legal case

>>15924034
he tends to get lucky a lot

>yeah we just stuck a bottle of nitrogen on it
>prolly won't short any more

>altitude too high
owari da

kino

>being paid to throw car batteries in the ocean
Beck is based

>>15924049
All that lead-acid is just dead weight, OK?

>>15924049
gotta recharge the electric eels somehow

what... the ... fuck?

>>15924052
Um... wow. 6 feet separation, anybody? Jeez!

>>15924052
Covid is back in full-gear, haven't you heard chuddy??

what is the astro awards and why does everyday astronaut keep on shilling it?

>>15923944
Have you seen Star Trek: Picard?

>>15924051
But those are fresh water

>>15923998
For me, its the Starship plush
>https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=59234.0

>>15923867
Who will be the first Star Wars actor to go to space?

>>15924052
Are you sure you aren't looking at an old stream?

>>15924061
blud works at Chuck E. Cheese :skull:

>>15924052
It's New Zealand. Why do you think Beck is so eager to move major operations to Virginia? Once Neutron is operational Rocket Lab is going to be an American launch company in more than just legal technicalities.

>>15924061
What’s on the shirt?

>>15924064
I think one of the deceased ones already went up as ashes

>>15924052
The company is pozzed lmao.

Anyone still watchign the shitty ForAllMankind? I just watched the latest episode 6 and its nonsense about unions, company pay, etc. This is the leftist propaganda

>>15924064
probably luke skywalker

>>15924052
Jesus...these people are brainbroken

>>15924073
if it was leftist propaganda, then it would make the soviet hardliners look good instead of making them the bad goys

>>15924077
#SupportUkraine

>>15924071
I only found ones for Trek actors

>>15924067
It's a goddamn miracle they were able to launch from there at all.

>>15924073
it would be a worthy project for /sfg/ anons to work together and release a non-pozzed super-cut of this tv series.

>>15924074
I don't think Mark Hamill is the kind to do something like this.

>>15924056
it's basically the oscars of astronomy or something. sfg should buy tickets and maybe we can even sponsor the ceremony to get a shoutout

>>15924085
He is too busy dunking on trumpians hardcore

>>15924073
No point watching. It's made by people without understanding of space or imagination. They can only fill it with weak melodrama. This was evident from season 2 at the latest.

>>15924084
Didn't the author of The Martian write it with the help of space nerds? Could /sfg/ do the same?

>>15924086
please never mention /sfg/ outside of /sfg/. it's shit enough as it is

>>15924073
Should've seen it coming from the very first scene of the first episode, Anon.

>>15924073
I dropped it in s03 e01

>>15924073
I thought they were gonna do something cool with the kid born on the space station. Make it so she couldn't go back to earth because she'd grown too much in low gravity by the time the launch window came around. I thought it would be interesting to have someone who's only ever heard of earth but never been there.

pogo oscillation

>>15924099
where?

Sheared flow stabilized Z-Pinch
>1 million second ISP

>>15924095
what scene is that? i havent watched any of it and dont plan to

>>15924101
z-pinch anon is fucking back hell yes

>>15924101
>>15924104
What's the latest news?

>>15924101
is it the same engine as this?

mars will be unionized. you survive together or you die together. the planet aint for pussy enough for people to go solo.

>>15924110
isnt that a line from the Solo star wars story movie? kek

>>15924110
they will hate you because you speak the (unfortunate) truth

Communism will win in the end

>>15924117
communism with right-wing social characteristics fr fr no cap blud

>>15922989
The rebar caps being present but not covering everything has really triggered my tism

where is the moon god???

>>15924129
Right here

>>15924129
Sup
>>15924138
Fuck off you’re not me

>>15924042
any r34 of clear?

>>15924102

>>15924081
good point. To be proper, Star Wars actor remains should only be launched on solar system escape velocity, so they end up in "a galaxy far, far away"

>>15924118
>communism with right-wing social characteristics
Karl marx was right about the class war and the proles had it coming
The peasents should work for free

>>15924197
huh?

>>15924198
Shut the fuck up retard

>>15924197
is this bait? (For All Wymnkynd is from Apple)

>>15924205
Shut up fag

>>15924215
You're not fooling anyone

>>15924100
my cock

>>15924052
KEEEEK
N
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>>15924219
Stop stealing my lines

>>15923754
*bald

>>15923828
Blue Origin was originally started with the goal of lifting people and industry into orbital spinhabs to preserve the Earth, which is gigabased as long as we keep colonizing other planets and moons too.

>>15924212
kino

>>15924198
Now you made me wonder what the escape velocity for our galaxy is

>>15924235
musk too
it's all fake hair

>>15924238
>you will live in the space pod
>you will work until death in the space factories
>you will leave earth as a resort for the elites
>and you will be happy
basically reverse elysium

>>15924243
About 500km/s apparently, more if you want an inclination change to aim at Andromeda instead of the eternal void. Might be doable near term with a plasma magnet sail booster to get up to 400km/s and some fusion torch for the rest.

https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/3948/what-is-the-escape-velocity-for-our-galaxy#3949

>>15924084
There's loads of spaceflight AU fanfiction.
>Eyes Turned Skyward
>Boldly Going
>Kolyma's Shadow
https://www.alternatehistory.com/wiki/doku.php?id=timelines:spaceflight_alternate_histories

>>15924052
I re-ask my question from the last thread, but with a larger emphasis on the lmao part.

>>15924073
Liberal masturbatory fantasy about unions over throwing the company is so disgusting to see in a show about a better humanity. It just reverts the whole of humanity back into primal animal like tribalist.

>>15924052
The politicization of masks happened only in America, no other country in the world has done that.
Gathering so many people together unprotected during another covid outbreak isn't a good idea.

>>15924290
The propaganda of Mask happened in America due to politicization. However propaganda of mask still happened all around the world because of American politicization.

Are you just going to memory hole people who were arrested, threatened, beaten up, fired in Kiwi for not going along with propaganda? Sorry but, you aint getting away. America pozzed it, you got pozzed as a result of American leadership

>>15924052
Is there any downside to wearing masks? Might as well if you're around a bunch of people.

>>15924295
Down side is concentration of CO2 which becomes deadly. Lack of freedom. Compulsory ideological propaganda.

You should ask why the gov isn't forcing everyone into wearing Burqas. There's no "downsides" to it scientifically speaking. Its all a matter of personal freedom and compulsory ideological programming

>>15924290
Masks don't prevent the transmission of coronavirus
>>15924295
Yeah its uncomfortable and dehumanizing.
Faces are an integral part of human interaction.

>>15924296
There is no enforcement in NZ atm. These people are wearing masks because they are smart - unlike you

>>15924301
>atm
Culture that promotes ideology and wont admit they were wrong continue to march to their death regardless of gov push. Its an ideological push towards ideological purity

>>15924301
They're NPCs as can be ascertained by them working for the worst newspace company which also went public (LMAO)

>>15924304
RL has to be the 2nd best space company behind spacex
Filling up many of the gaps spacex is leaving open

>>15924306
KEK!

>>15924306
There arent many gaps in SpaceX's F9 rocket. What little gaps on F9 will be filled by Starship. Which is what should scare these "2nd" companies. As the 2nd will be very distant as SpaceX scales. The dont have the luxury of political posturing and the company posturing as that will deter many engineers who see this ias a NPC move

>>15924311
Electron has a very niche market that seems to be working.
I'm unsure about Neutron but if they didn't think there would be a chance in the market they wouldn't be building it
What RL is really doing well is making hardware for sats, currently making up half their income iirc spacex isn't doing that

>>15924319
>iirc spacex isn't doing that
largest satellite operator in the world by the way.
rocketlab was doomed the moment it was founded by peter beck. the guy is not a ceo and it shows

>>15924319
>What RL is really doing well is making hardware for sats, currently making up half their income iirc spacex isn't doing that
Starlink income is ~40% of their income last year. It will be 70% of the income this year. And further increasing.

They make their own hardware, they do their own services, they make money off of it.

>>15922932
Which you signed up for! If theyd just let me get on slinging junk into incinerators if pay it off quick.

>>15924323
>largest satellite operator in the world by the way.
true but RL is not doing the same. There's a difference between flying your own stas and making hardware that is flying on many of other peoples sats
>rocketlab was doomed the moment it was founded by peter beck
then why aren't they bankrupt yet?

>>15924331
The difference is who makes money. SpaceX makes money off of it.

>>15924325
Yes that is a valid business model.
RL is filling the gaps left behind by spacex, one of which is making components for other companies sats

>>15924334
spacex does make money off it
so does RL 40mil last quarter

>>15924339
Forgot to include pic

>>15923841
That's actually about the size of the rocket motor testing pit at the old Rocketdyne site in Florida. They were testing a solid first stage for the Saturn there

>>15924339
As I said earlier, the gaps in F9 right now will be closed by Starship. Dynamic launch prices from 20M to 150M will be had with Starship as they will sell all they can.

>>15924296
>Down side is concentration of CO2 which becomes deadly
Source?
>Lack of freedom. Compulsory ideological propaganda.
Lol.

>>15924298
>Yeah its [...] dehumanizing.
Lmao.

>>15922341
what's Jeff up to now???

>>15924351
Electron is 7M to any orbit you want. Not for many customers but there are some as shown by RL earning money
Even with starship there willl always be a small market for electron