/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15919430
very nice
>>15919423
is this the QI guy with mcculloh

I haven't been keeping up to date. Are they launching S26 or S28 during ITF-3?

Thoughts on China's upcoming rockets?

>>15919451
S26 is getting scrapped. No more full stainless steel Starships, just beautiful tiled behemoths.
>>15919454
All ripoffs of western rockets. not much more needs to be said.

https://twitter.com/LabPadre/status/1734620661677535313
Test stand A getting cut up and the QD umbilical are FULLY gone. What's going on with the OLM??

>>15919463
its fucking over. They are disassembling the next ship RING by RING.

>>15919446
yes lol

>>15919463
second tower getting built maybe

My farts continue to reek like week old cat corpse

>>15919492
>Mr. Musk, another ULA sniper has hit the second tower

Cybertruck bros…

>>15919507
Not spaceflight stfu

>>15919507
>release candidate
Holy shit just sold all my spacex stock after viewing this and you should too

>>15919507
Too much cyber, not enough truck

>>15919507
I just sold all my neurolink shares. gonna use the proceeds to buy all terrain tires and chains for my ram 4500 evp because im not a stupid retard gay elon musk ball suckler

>>15919454
I like chinaspace more than the average /sfg/ fag—but even I am unimpressed. Even if china got multiple “private” rockets flying, each with capabilities similar to F9 and EVEN if some had reusability, it’s not really that interesting other than it makes USA oldspace look lazy and inefficient for not being able to do the same thing.
But anyways china doesn’t really have impressive capability and they aren’t doing anything that the west can already do better

>>15919507
Where are the rockets in this webm?

15919507
Not spaceflight related kill yourself

>>15919588
Cope and seethe

>>15919507
>muskrats are shilling this piece of shit as lunar/mars rover
lol, lmao even

>>15919597
forgive them, they have severe retardation.

>>15919597
It would actually work better on moon than earth

>>15919509
My sides achieved orbit, that should count for something

A truck getting stuck in the snow? That's unheard of

t. giant retard

>>15919597
How bad of an issue is traction in low-g lunar gravity? Or in fine lunar dust?

>>15919658
how do they manage to fuck up the wheels this badly on rovers when they drive so slowly? is it just mass autism making the wheels super flimsy?

>>15919663
>mass autism
Yes.
Also known as "not requiring 2147483648 in-orbit refuels for a single mission"
Such is the way of oldspace

>>15919666
Fuel is cheaper than broken wheels.

>>15919666
Not like they really had a choice back when Curiosity (and arguably even Perseverance) launched. Biggest you could do was Atlas V or Ariane right? I don’t think NASA was ready to put a ‘mega ultra’ mars rover 2x the size, complexity, and cost of curiosity on a Falcon Heavy back in 2020 lol. They would probably be okay with it now though

>>15919714
Yeah no shit they didn't have a choice, they had to get shit done instead of jerking off to inefficient scifi mission plans.

Now, Artemis on the other hand had a choice and they chose a stupid mission architecture. That said I hope it works out in the end. Even if it utterly retarded with current technology, someone has to keep pushing progress and chinks certainly can't do anything more than copy Apollo-era burgertech.

>>15919728
meds

>>15919728
Unironically agree 100%

>>15919728
>inefficient scifi mission plans.
harsh, but I agree
MSR is retarded

>>15919728
ITS NOT SCIFI ITS REAL. YOUVE SEEN IT ON THE LAUNCH MOUNT. WE ARE GOING.

Cancel MSR & Dragonfly.

>>15919454
China's going to let them all tear each other to pieces and lets whoever lives live. The personnel experience generated by the failed attempts can be absorbed by one of the survivors or folded into CASC for building reusability to the LM-9 and 10.

There's nothing intrinsically wrong with any of the proposals. They're all possible evolutions from conservative ELVs to simple RLVs following the Falcon 9's basic pattern. They won't all work out but the odds are pretty damn high that at least once of them will.

>>15919757
kek

>>15919423
>Barry-1 satellite tracking
https://db.satnogs.org/satellite/QDDY-8878-5291-1819-3935#data
>Schizo blog
https://physicsfromtheedge.blogspot.com/?m=1

>>15919663
>drives short distance
>wheels fall apart
many such cases. old space doesn't even have reusable wheels

>>15919773
The Lunokhods are surprisingly impressive.

>>15919714
A Proton-M could fling about 5 tons to TMI, an Atlas V 551 could do 5.5 tons, an Ariane 5 ECA could do 6 tons, and a Delta IV Heavy could do 8.5 tons.

The Falcon Heavy does present some interesting possibilities. It's sad that we're going to be well into the Starship era before NASA is able to put anything together to take advantage of it.

>>15919789
Falcon Chubby was only ever meant as a stopgap vehicle, which only makes it cooler, the final evolution of its architecture, briefly the greatest in the world. Decades from now only rocket nerds will remember it ever flew.

>>15919789
Nah mate I think we will still be limited by New Glenn and Vulcan Centaur. NASA will be designing missions that have to interchangeably fit on those ships as well, for competitive reasons

>>15919796
>Falcon Chubby was only ever meant as a stopgap vehicle
Next level cope, or are you a newfag?
Falcon heavy was meant to be ready in 2013 and it was meant to be flying to Mars every launch window, the only reason it came so late and launches so seldomly is because it was in development hell and ended up being way more expensive and complex than planned. It was supposed to be easy, just three unmodified falcon boosters, it ended up being a completely different rocket. Elon tried to cancel it several times

https://twitter.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1734694724789764225
Elon bad bros... I thought twitter was going bankrupt

>>15919730
Oh no, a post wasn't included in your programming.
Just imagine it was offtopic tesla/twitter shit and happily go on about your day.

>>15919823
https://archive (dot) is/20231212210714/https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-12-12/musk-s-x-2023-ad-sales-projected-to-slump-to-about-2-5-billion

>>15919829
>bloomberg
do I even need to say it

7 days before KSP 2 becomes GOTY

Something beautiful happened today

Would you buy their rockets?

>>15919887
What's that, then?

>>15919914
A fire extinguisher incident

>>15919902
Literally who

>>15919902
Dave Limp was at this conference, I just realized. He is slated to be the new BO CEO. I think he was here representing Amazon at the time. How ironic

>>15919927
It's called a coincidence, not irony. And it's not a coincidence

>>15919922
Not space related

>>15919929
Good point; well said.

>>15919925
Arianespace and ULA CEOs

>>15919423
Tape outgassing engines will soar through the technology readiness levels soon. How exciting!!!

>>15919937
And?

>>15919945
I am starting a collection of weird space flight related photos

>>15919946
>i-its just tape outgassing!!!
>chuds cant be right!!!

>>15919952
The chuds unironically cant be right, correct

>>15919507
Foolish Tesla. Clearly it needed a rocket motor for these kinds of situations.

Some KSC tanks are heading back to Starbase, and the test stand is getting ripped apart. Also StarFactory is being expanded further, and the OLM SQD is getting worked on too. Busy busy times, but this is making me think that we have another IFT-2 length wait for IFT-3.

>>15919958
Saving this for the screencap when they're proved right.

>>15919658
I hate wheels almost as much as tiles.

>>15919962
>when they're proved right
By themselves. A party with a vested interest to find something here.

>>15919970
Their target for the test is a figure that would be impossible to achieve without the drive working as advertised.

>>15919507
>put truck in situation where even a tank could get stuck
>it gets stuck
woah.
>>15919597
haha he didn't get the responses he wanted so he made one of his own, embarrassing.

https://youtube.com/shorts/XV-gTmp1XE4?si=pX4LgSRJGJydYd9U
did you see this?

>>15919507
Put on tire chains retard.

>>15919988
>woman

>>15919961
told you so.

>>15919993
Answer the question

>>15919988
>shorts
No

>>15919995
No, I didn't.

>>15919973
McCulloch made a post on Patreon today where he determined that the baseline orbit of the satellite is actually decaying a bit every day so if the orbit raises above the original it's pretty obviously a real effect of consistent thrust rather than just lol outgassing.

https://twitter.com/BrendanCarrFCC/status/1734696706795778126

spaceflight relevance, this is about a 880mil subsidy that got given and then retracted from Starlink and it seems it was clearly political

>>15920004

>>15919988
What is it with space sluts like this always trying to show off their belly button or whatnot? does she have a father?

>>15920007
>What is it with space sluts like this always trying to show off their belly button
multiple docking ports uwu

>>15920006

>>15920011

WHEN CLPS LAUNCH

>>15920004
>>15920006
>>15920011
>>15920014
Schizos were right?

Creating a Venus exploration program

https://www.thespacereview.com/article/4707/1

>>15920017
They always are.

>>15920017
have you been living under a rock? this is just one of many examples
the lawsuit about SpaceX hiring refugees, lawsuits about glass houses are just some that come to mind quickly
those were clearly frivolous bullshit
the whining about not giving Ukraine access to certain areas that would have been illegal without explicit approval from the president and yet they still went on a massive witch hunt to claim Musk was actively hindering Ukrainian operations somehow
its a massive fucking list

>>15920024
Luckily those lawsuits got dismissed and its only been reputational damage so far (kind of inflicted by Elon if he kept his mouth shut none of this wouldve happened) but now its cutting in to money. So far it seems countersuits have been successful, not sure if something could happen here though but it seems unlikely. Does anyone know if countersuit is possible to overturn the decision if its proven to be politically motivated?

>>15920011
>Applying a speed test to those providers would show speeds of 0/0 Mbps.

>>15920030
>its only been reputational damage so far (kind of inflicted by Elon if he kept his mouth shut none of this wouldve happened)
He's afraid that a culture of "just keep your mouth shut" will be unable to go multiplanetary. If it comes to a choice between screaming "NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER" directly in Barack Obama's face during a Tesla investor call or giving up on Mars he'll scream.

>>15920040
Did someone say nigger?

>>15920004
Yep. Biden admin is cancer. They need to go.

>>15920040
Destruction of society is a threat to space flight. The current trend is dangerous.

i'm working IN not out, you're efforts are pointless - give up now.

>>15920065
Kys schizoid

>>15919986
>put truck in situation where even a tank could get stuck
>it gets stuck
toyota hilux would have no trouble there

>>15920091
I've seen plenty of good trucks peel out on ice if they're not chained up. This is just what happens when you let yuppies get AWD.

>>15920091
Any standard truck with over-inflated non-studded or chained tires would get stuck in that spot exactly like the Cybertruck, only it would probably be worse depending on its weight allocation. Now go back.

>>15920017
For about the last eight years or so, you should have listened.

>>15920017
The gov is corrupt.

>>15919986
I’m not a samefag, lol
Stay mad

>>15920141
>iToddler file name with desktop 4chan
Something wrong here. What jewish tricks are you trying to pull?

>>15920004
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1734715088529953103

>>15920065
Scrambled rubiks cube is unsolvable. two yellow middles

>>15920174
Skill issue

>>15920177
agreed
the Rubik's cube is an IQ test and you fail if you don't realize you can move the stickers

https://twitter.com/CSI_Starbase/status/1734740468519350291/photo/1

>>15920004
Reddit is censoring this lmao. I double checked their spacex board and its not posted there

>>15920213
Felon Musk once again not making his work ADA compliant. Sad to see

>>15920221
lol, not really surprising though as this makes the biden admin look really bad even for normies

>>15920221
>>15920246
kill yourself redditniggers GO THE FUCK BACK YOU CANCEROUS BROWNOID FUCKING KIKEJEW

>>15920213
what's inside the curtain?

>>15920004
Only 12 more months of this left

https://twitter.com/CSI_Starbase/status/1734754128415297905

SpaceX tank farm symphony.

>>15919625
no shit because it would weigh less
but that doesn't mean it's actually well designed for the moon or mars

>>15920286
That's ok, it will improve over time

>>15920292
If SpaceX wants a Tesla rover the should ask Tesla to design a rover from the ground up. Converting a vehicle designed first optimized for use on Earth will never yield a vehicle optimized for use on the Moon or Mars. They are different problems that require different solutions. One-size-fits-all makes zero sense for rovers.

>>15920296
True, I think SpaceX will design their own vehicles. But with parts available from Tesla, just like how they do all their current things. Some core things are interchangeable but requires a lot of re-engineering to make it space worthy.

https://twitter.com/Tesla_Optimus/status/1734756150137225501
its happening

>>15920301
>>15920300
>>>/wsg/5374805
Audio version

>>15920300
why does it walk like it shit it's pants

>>15919877
LMAO read the reviews on Steam. It is a scam of a demo, not even a finished game.

>>15920309
Thats how all robots walk like. Its because it cant bend like humans to stabalize properly I think

>>15920313
I wonder if it's really a mechanics problem or an issue with the software driving it. Like if you wired up a human brain to one of these and gave him time to learn the ropes, wouldn't the human manage to learn a more efficient way to move this robot body? I imagine so.

>>15920309
walking like that is simpler and safer, humans kind of fall forward
maybe the gait will be more humanlike in the future, but this thing doesn't have the flexibility of a human yet
the previous version didn't have any articulation in the toes, but this one has some I guess

>>15920296
it's ok bro

>>15920300
>Tesla robots
Automotive?

>>15920004
>Starlink can't reach required speeds
>speeds are declining, which has to be solved with V2 satellites on Starship, which won't be launching in volume by the end of '25 when the speeds need to be reached
>this must be the result of a political witch-hunt initiated by Biden after his comments that were made well after the decision to revoke was made
what a fucking retard

>>15920017
No, this guy is just a retard virtue-signaling to the "Biden is going after Musk" crowd

>>15920309
kind of seems to be about the sota for these neural nets bots
like this was released the other day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFoBfFhwo18

>>15920319
it can reach required speeds though, thats the thing
the deadline is at the end of 2025

>>15920308
>>15920301
not fucking spaceflight bleed out

>>15920319
No other company requires a new technology to meet the speed requirements on day 1.

Its a nonsensical argument. The Biden appointee made up the reason to put Starlink's expansion under halt. Fucking bitch

>>15920315
>walking like that is simpler and safer, humans kind of fall forward
So they need to program the bots to have more bravery

>>15920301
>>15920300
why did they announce this with a random twitter video, seems like a bigger deal
That's the most human-like robot movement I've seen

>>15920332
NOT SPACEFLIGHT KYS KYS KYS KYS

the biden cocksucker is losing his mind lmaoo

>>15920311
Your misinformation has been deboonked. Try again, sweetie.

>>15920335
i hate biden thoughbeit. i also hate non spaceflight in spaceflight general, tard.

>>15920332
Get with the times. We X-men now. Its not a "random" video. Its a preview of whats to come.

>>15920338
shut up NIGGER. you VILL talk about spaceflight, you VILL contribute meaningful discussion, and you VILL be happy.

>>15920341
Future of Moon and Mars colony. Gen3-Gen4 will be doing work.

>>15920309
Boston Dynamics is the only one who's moved beyond that, since they've been tunnel-visioned on kinesthetics from their founding.

>>15920343
no they fucking wont, humanoid robots ESPECIALLY wont be doing this, there will be dedicated machines for colony building not these fucking niggerbots nobody gives a shit about.

Hello friends.
I was looking forward to watching the Falcon Heavy launch with Clear and all of you again but it seems like I won't be home to watch it. I still hope it all goes well and makes Clear happy :D

>>15920347
the clearcel returns.

clearly a man

Do you reckon /sfg/ will become any better after Musk's death next week?

>>15920351
yeah, a woman

>>15920354
kek admitting hes a trannoid no fucking way

>>15919945
>that lean

>>15920357
she's a TERF acutally

>>15919993
Why would the AI put just a random towel on the woman's head?

>>15920347
>snake
lmao no way

>>15920213
can you visit starbase like ksc?

>>15920361
do zoomers really?

>>15920347
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qe8c9jnQWU
Falcon Heavy's not going until tomorrow. All we get tonight is another boring ole starlink launch

>>15920382
another one towards 100 2023 launches.

>>15919507
Uh oh stinky

>>15920389
californians, folks.

Another scrub.

I am assuming this has something to do with the Chinese spaceplane launch?

https://twitter.com/titangilroy/status/1734589762613154171

Blorgin is finally showing something to media

>>15919663
They made them out of very thin aluminum and added a tread patter with sharp corners, because they have mass autism and are also retarded morons

>>15920427
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVa1bP92TIg
I wonder when the Lex Fridman tour/podcast is coming out
that tweet was a while ago

>>15920427
Frankly it was boring for me. No real explanations on rocket or the engine side of things as I skimmed through it

>>15920413
It does not

>>15920301
She's only a few years away now

NOT. SPACEFLIGHT.

>>15920300
The pace of improvement on this is insane. I wonder how long it'll be until they figure out how to give it a more natural gait/walking speed.

>>15920358
he's too old and frail to resist the gravitational pull

>>15920452
They're already likely being trained on neural net for more natural walking. Either it will evolve from current training or it will evolve from a separate transformer model.

>>15920442
dibs on KOS-MOS

Why do they call it "spaceflight" when it's really spacefloat

>>15920463
It seems like a hardware revision is going to be needed also. Optimus, along with basically every other humanoid robot, has that weird partial crouch even when the legs are at full extension. I assume there's some reason for this, but it also looks to be preventing progress toward more natural walking.

>>15920452
6 months

https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/12/blue-origin-sure-seems-confident-it-will-launch-new-glenn-in-2024/
>Two Blue Origin officials told Ars that the company is not currently planning to perform a full-scale test-firing of an entire New Glenn booster, with all seven of its BE-4 engines, before the inaugural launch. If this holds, it would be unusual. These hotfire tests are a standard part of preparing of the first flight of a new rocket. Just this year, we've seen ULA test-fire its Vulcan booster, Europe's Ariane 6 rocket go through multiple hotfire tests, and SpaceX's enormous Super Heavy booster fire up its engines on the launch pad.

What

>>15919423
If you launch a starship every week for a few years straight that has to rip a giant hole in the ozone, right?

>>15920301
If this was real melong would replace tesla factory workers over night

>>15920477
Remarkable. Take notes ScamX, good engineering doesn't require the deaths of thousands of ocelots.

holy shit i CANT FUCKING STAND WOMEN
DO YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WHEN WOMEN WERE ALLOWED IN SPACEFLIGHT??? IT FUCKING FLOPPED AND WE GOT THE SHUTTLE ERA WHERE NOTHING NEW HAPPENED FOR FUCKING HALF A CENTURY AND ALL THE PROGRESS OF THE SPACE RACE ROTTED AWAY IN MUSEUMS
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH FUCKING TWITTER TRANNIES I SWEAR TO GOD

>>15920300
The bitrate fucking sucks. Why is Elon refusing to upload shit to YouTube? The last Starship launch looked like shit too.

>>15920490
because hes a selfish little fuck that doesnt want his horrible twitter investment to die even though hes killing spacex audience by moving to xitter by doing this. all around lose lose

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1734786417396687310

Starlink prop loading underway

>>15920494
shut up fag

>>15920494
Oh good, I was wondering if that one was launching today. Thanks for the head's up

>>15920494
routine starlink launch? no one cares

>>15920494
Continue, king

>>15920496
>>15920499
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>>15920501
>japanese
holy shit it's clear-sama trying to talk with us. i love ur streams!!!

>>15920503
thats chinese tard

>>15920490
Elon Derangement Syndrome

>>15920506
You think someone else is forcing him to lower the quality of his companies videos? I highly doubt that.

>>15920504
Retard-kun

>>15920508
No, its literally Elon being deranged.

>quantum drive
Rocket Air

>>15920477
Haters (me included) are going to absolutely seethe when it goes perfectly and lands on the first attempt lol

>>15920382
T-10:00

>>15920516
I would love for that to happen but you know that even if everything else works perfectly the second stage is still going to find some way to fuck everything up

>>15920516
shut up fag

>>15919945
space force really needs to have fitness standards. the fact that they dont have to do PT is embarrassing. worse, they keep begging for beards. they literally just want to be the IT guy meme before fucking off to a cushy industry job. we need warriors, not wimps.

>>15920504
technically 自由 and a few other words are japanese too

https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1eaJbgDwNRBxX

Live now. T-4:20 min

>>15920213
isnt the lunar mockup in interior supposed to be done next year? its being made by some other company but i forgot which.

>>15920533
Blorgin has a mock up next year if thats what you mean.

hold hold hold

>>15920300
>android soldier patrols an autonomous armored ground vehicle factory of the tesla cyber armaments megacorp, elon city, martian republic, 2045

everything today scrubbed

>>15920494

I loaded my prop in ur mom's ass last night

>>15920542
another frog WIN in the books. WAGTM

Has SpaceX's peak finally past? They used to never scrub. Looks like it's all down hill from here

>>15920300
>here's your companion bot bro

>>15920545
fuck off Noa you piece of shit thread splitter

>>15920547
>>15920545
i know these are both you.

>>15920549

starlink traffic grew 330% in a year
https://radar.cloudflare.com/year-in-review/2023#starlink-traffic-trends

>>15920562
just cut off the subsidies, sorry chud but you have to vote for biden to get to space.

>>15920562
They 3X the subscribers likely if not more.

>>15920436
All he was talking about most of the time, was the fact that he got to film inside the factory.

>>15920309
Your legs, together, have a dozen different muscles that can flex across three different axis to quite a significant degree of motion simultaneously. Robot legs don't have that flexibility yet and won't have it likely until the end of the decade based on current rate of progress. Still, the egg test is a pretty significant milestone for the bot.

>>15919454
implessive...

>>15919454
The next space competition isn't Blue Origin or Rocket lab. Its China's space companies.

They are moving faster than the tortoise, they will scale faster than the tortoise. However SpaceX will still be the big brother to them.

>>15920591
The next race is actually to nuclear electric propulsion so QI thrusters can take people to the outer planets and then the stars.

>>15920018
At this point VEXAG probably considers anything except a truck full of money backing into the driveway a lie

NASA has rugpulled Venus for DECADES

>>15920488
You wouldn't be shitposting this loudly if you read what Lori Garver did to get HLS selected. Shotwell runs SpaceX...

NASA will never be able to sustain a lunar base concurrently with a manned mission to Mars. Artemis would have to be dismantled and all operations focused on Mars for it to be a reality. Every piece of equipment NASA sustains in space means that many more billions it needs to fund it. Forget sustaining a space station in lunar orbit.

>>15920477
I've been wondering this. Are too many rocket companies a bad thing? Isn't it better to consolidate top-tier rocket scientist brain power instead of diffusing it across too many organizations. Quality over quantity, etc.

>>15920300
What will be the actual consequences of this?

>>15920637
Competition makes progress. Having a broad field early on allows lots of ideas to be put forward and vetted by the free market. The best will move ahead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsyECfDBkdw
wtf is the point? the only way we're leaving the solar system is if we hack the simulation.

>>15920649
Currently? To improve on the next version for their bot.

Down the line 10 years from now? Unrestricted labor for work that humans cant do, dont want to do, or should do.

https://twitter.com/CSI_Starbase/status/1734783989871763768

>>15920657
what do we need bipedal robots for?

>>15920660
To do stuff humans currently do where value is to be gained.

1) In a factory, there's division of labor. Simple stuff by humans where you take part from one desk and move to another and place the parts in right arrangement. All factories are designed with humans in mind right now. So they have a role there for the next 40-50 years.

2) Companions. Waifu bots.

>>15920662
3. "carry this bare slug of plutonium or ticking RTG over to the spacecraft"

>>15920660
sex

>>15920670
you can just use a rover or treaded robot for literally everything except fucking.

>>15920660
It's really just a way to prove we've mastered control theory enough to the point where we can say we're able to replicate something with algorithms and sensors that it took nature three point two billion years to evolve to do

>>15920660
To do the difficult task and other things.

>>15920656
You mean hacking biology. Every argument boils down to weak flesh.

>>15920672
>>15920674
you don't need a robot onahole

>>15919463
>Test stand A
>What's going on with the OLM
you're a disingenuous nigger. go back to twitter

>>15920702
He's right. You dont need to jerk off in general. Go get a girlfriend pathetic incels.

>>15920704
>completely ignores QD umbilical work
talk about disingeneous, youre probably a cut amerilard arent you? kek imagine being a foreskinless goy

>>15920300
>Stay tuned to see what Optimus will do next!

>>15920213
>pervy Jurv
he's a sick man

>>15920562
starting with 10 subscriber now they have 33, big fuckin deal lol

https://twitter.com/SpmtTracker/status/1734842413422637316

Roll out of S28 coming out now

>>15920004
contract for services are not a subsidy

>>15920660
play god

>>15920723
Shut up fag

https://myrgv.com/local-news/2023/12/12/starbase-general-manager-discusses-future-plans-at-invite-only-brownsville-event/
>“This next year’s going to be really, really critical for us to continue to test out and being able to kind of move the Starship into its next level of being able to accomplish its mission, along with us looking at reuse of the booster and being able to perform landing operations. … Our goal is to be able to bring the big booster back, and be able to use it and turn it around and launch again,” Lueders said.

>>15920735
Make it their primary manufacturing and launching site??? Fuck me I guess KSC isnt the plan then.

>>15920721
>>15920562
This is a chart I made to show subscribers and revenue from data on wikipedia back in September. They had 2m subscribers at that time, and I used the simplifying assumption that all of them are on the same plan of $110 a month (in reality, the commercial/DOD users are more expensive, and I'm not sure if third worlders get some kind of localized pricing/discount). The trend fits a 2nd order polynomial with an r^2 of .9982.

>>15920660
>>15920674
you're a retard. the human form is necessary for anything that's not hyper specialized work in an entirely controlled environment.
even in that case like a car factory it still doesnt work. why do you think there's so many line workers for anything that's not welding the car together?
the robots nor the software are good enough

>>15920740
Do you also believe that Teslas will be used on Mars?

>>15920741
cars drive on roads you absolute retard

>>15920743
That was sarcastic you fucking mongrel nigger kys kys kys kys kys kys kys

>>15920745
seething retard

>>15920747
Pissy babboon

https://x.com/spacenews_inc/status/1734792811776512330
House committee debating space mining.

>>15920755
who the fuck still wears a mask lmao

>>15920761
Dr Milazzo

>>15920091
nigger, toyota hilux is my company car and i work in state forestry, shut your stupid ass up, driving up a snowy incline with weight in the back like that is always going to get you stuck, retard.
i'm never going to buy an electric car but it's just such incredibly obvious elon derangement syndrome.

>>15920769
>spaceflight general
>some nigger woodcutter
how about you suck some black cock fat redneck nigger

>>15920775
you sure do think about black cocks a lot

>>15920004
yeah, we know
we called it back then

>>15920779
YOURE THE ONE WHO BROUGHT UP BLACK PEOPLE

>YOURE THE ONE WHO BROUGHT UP BLACK PEOPLE

>>15920347
>snake
you did that intentionally, didn't you?

>>15920779
Yes, and?

>>15920485
funny you'd mention that

>>15920552
confirmation.
kill yourself.

>>15920775
>don't mention cocks once in my post
>instantly projects his homosexuality onto me, upset that even people who do masculine work like felling trees are willing to defend cybertruck
lmao, i told you it's derangement syndrome.

>>15920761
Maybe he is sick.

>>15920660
Unironically robot slavery.

>>15920740
you use human workers in places where it's too hard to make a programable sequence of movements combined with image processing
take this for an example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al68eQXB4FQ
up until the final sorting, human hand won't even touch the nuts and even then, you only need a some sort of grabber, not even the whole pair of arms (let alone legs)

you need a guy to fix the machine when something gets stuck or breaks, but you cannot really automate that (not without a really advanced AGI) and even then you would probably just have a set of robot arms on wheels/rails/crane rather than a bipedal android

>>15920844
specifically sex slavery

>>15919728

>>15920802
Mueller looks funny because his head is big relative to his body

Russian SLS

>>15920964
what's thay actually from?

would be cool and funny if Russia for prestige reasons pursues superheavy lift expendables again

>>15920969
Its Energia >>15918988, which is basically Russian SLS

>>15920964
Energia was actually good and a sane platform to expand, that it only had 2 launches was the corrupt and broken country's fault. Apparently they declassified a lot of stuff last month or something, so there should be more content coming. Some stuff about another mir station too

Schizodrive status?

>>15920988

>>15920739
Usually 54 USD here in Italy, but there's a special offer right now (43 USD):
>ITALY LIMITED TIME OFFER
>€299 FOR HARDWARE
>40€ FOR SERVICE

>>15919454
>>15919829
>>15920755
When are we leaving this planet bros? I'm tired of all the delays. I want to explore the galaxy before I die why is it taking so long?

lol

>>15920979
It cost an arm and a leg to launch, and the logistics behind getting all the hardware together was a near-nightmare

>>15921036
no fucking way, where is this from?? Kek this has got to be satire

>>15921051
obviously its satire nincumpoop.

>>15920300
>0:53
that's not how you walk nigger
ahahah

The great filter has been averted.

>>15921090
>"paris" climate accords
>doesn't focus entirely on nuclear
false advertising

>>15920300
the walking needs some work, people can cope all they like about how its a safer way to walk or whatever, but humans walk with the perfect gait because weve evolved to do so, it needs to walk like a human if it wants to work at pace and not like an old 90 year old faggot with arthrirtis and shit dripping down his leg

>>15921104
Safer for the robot and easier to develop, not safer in the general sense
And the did improve it between this and the previous iteration, its fucking amazing how short of an attentionspan people have

>>15921117
>Safer for the robot and easier to develop
well yeah, its easier to develop it on 4 wheels if ease is what you are going for. the point is if you are using legs it needs to walk like a human

>>15921121
how many fucking times does iterative development need to be explained before retards stop coming up with these dumbass takes?
ITERATION
google it

>>15921127
cope

>>15921127
I don't care about your gay fetish tranny. Now it's time for you to dial8

>>15921127
Iterate my cock into your urethra

>>15921127
oh? so you admit to sucking nigger cocks and taking them up your ass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vYVC7eFF64

>>15921127
you need to be locked away in a psych ward, ive not seen mental illness like this in a while

>>15919454
imo it's not the technical aspects of this generation of rockets that matter the most for China. What matters is the restructuring of the launch industry from just one big SOE (CASC), to one having many companies of various ownership structures. It is bad in the near term because it causes a temporary slowdown in the industry as CASC bleeds skilled labor and there's a lot of chaos and reinventing the wheel going on, however more competition and diversity of ownership structures is good for the industry in the long run.

Apart from the usual benefits of competition, it also means Chinese payload providers and operators don't need to fear an upstream quasi-monopoly creating a competing product, like western satellite companies need to fear SpaceX doing another Starlink. So it allows for a vertically dis-aggregated industry, which increases competition and reduces barriers to entry for innovative startups. There's also been a vertical dis-integration within launch itself, with AALPT and AASPT selling engines outside of CASC and JZYJ appearing as a pure engine provider.

I don't think there will be as much consolidation of the sector as some other people seem to think, at least not in the near-mid term. While there's no way for all the current 12+ Chinese launch companies to persist, I think China's launch industry easily has room for CASC + CASIC + 5 or more other companies.

China will probably want to expand Guowang from the current 13k plan to match Starlink's 40k+ because China wants the ability to offer any country the same level of service as America. There's the G60 alternate constellation. China has a clear interest in power satellites. The PLA likely has virtually infinite demand for reconnaissance satellites and prepositioned on-orbit space weapons, as long as they can be built and launched at reasonable cost. And space stunts will probably be funded lavishly from the 2030s onwards for prestige reasons, like in the 1960s.

>>15921133
but nobody mentioned nigger cock except for you.
why did you suddenly mention nigger dicks out of the blue anon?

>>15921135
stop advertizing. nobody cares.

How do we make sure the mental illness known as religion never leaves earth?

>>15921142
>2030's onwards
they're gonna have to go faster than that
china has plateau'd in it's growth and their looming population/employment crisis is going to seriously deflate their capital in the near future. not to mention western companies flooding out and finding other, poorer countries to replace china for manufacture.
>inb4 not spaceflight
true, but i just wanted to give my two cents on the matter. i think china has enough time to construct a moon mission and build up significant on-orbit infrastructure, but i seriously doubt that growth period will go far beyond 2035 or thereabouts.

>>15921149
its human nature to be religious, religion is just dogma and people are dogmatic about all sorts of things. Mars colonization is a reliious beleif and hopefully it becomes a very large religion.

>>15920637
Whether an industry benefits from a high concentration or not, depends on how great the returns to scale are. If the whole is clearly far greater than the sum of the parts, then you want a consolidation.

Otherwise, absolutely not. Economic theory is clear, that the more competition, the better. The basic economic theory of perfect competition says that the lowest theoretically possible price charged to customers can only be realized when there are so many vendors that none have, as an economist would say, significant market power, and collusion becomes practically impossible.

So it's a balancing act, and it's hard to tell what the optimal level of market concentration is without having detailed technical knowledge.

>>15921128
>>15921131
>>15921132
>>15921133
>>15921139
you need to have an IQ above room temperature to post here

>>15921159
Presently it's clear that there is a tremendous oversupply of rocket vendors. There was already an oversupply back during space shuttle

>>15921163
Its 20c in my room right now
Checkmate

>>15921151
China's population crisis is a myth, mainly perpetuated and accepted by people who have never touched an economics textbook in their life. While it is true that China's population pyramid looks bad on surface inspection, it is not when you look deeper.

China does not need more people, because isn't using the ones it has well. China's agricultural workforce is still around 25%. It should be less than 5% for an advanced country. China's urbanization level is 60%. It should be over 80% for an advanced country. So there's lots of room to better use the people it already has.

China also doesn't need people in the sense of raw biomass. It needs natural scientists, engineers and relevantly skilled labor. Low skill labor is just going to become less and less useful in comparison, and more and more of a political liability and source of instability when they can't find good-paying jobs. And when you look at the trends adjusted for education and skill level, China's demographics are excellent. Even if universities froze student throughput rates tomorrow, China's human capital would still increase for the next 40 years as the current examination rates perpetuate through the labor force and as the current large crop of novices accumulate experience.

Also, China is still accumulating physical capital, which is a factor of production as important as labor and human capital is. Even if China's human capital stagnated tomorrow, China would still have economic growth from

Companies relocating from China is just because Chinese wages are rising, which is because Chinese labor is in such high demand. There is a temporary dip in exports and an outflow of capital, however this says less about China than it says about the rest of the world. Lower exports are natural because of high interest rates in the US and EU. Capital outflow is perfectly expected for the same reason

>>15921174
ok wumao

>>15921174
People sometimes point to China's slowing growth as evidence, however there are many other reasons contributing to that. For example, popping the real estate bubble, using the Three Red Lines policy, is a temporary reason. There are also unavoidable fundamental structural reasons that will permanently slow down China's growth. For example:

China has already seized most of the low hanging fruits in terms of infrastructure investments and other capital investments

There are benefits to urbanization and agglomeration, however there's a limit how big you can build a city or a metro before it becomes impractical and the agglomeration effects in fact become negative due to congestion. Several of China's major cities like Beijing have hit that limit, hence the plans for urban clusters like Jingjinji/Yangtze River Delta/Pearl River Delta, including building a new auxiliary capital Xiong'an in Hebei almost from scratch to relieve congestion in Beijing.

China is getting closer the technological frontier. They are also facing export controls on what existing technology they are allowed to use.

China has decided to make supply chains more resilient to sanctions. Such duplication and reduced economies of scale increases the resilience of the economy however it obviously slows growth compared to just importing it. They have decided to develop most technology at home, even that which they are not banned from importing. Focusing resources on reinventing the wheel obviously decreases growth compared to just importing existing wheels or wheel technology

etc

>>15921185
If the CCP hasn't improved average Chinese fertility rates to 2 by ~2045 then you can say that China has a real population problem. Until then, not really. They only abolished the 1 child limit in 2016 and 2 child limit in 2021 so they don't seem to be in any hurry

>>15921164
Why? Amazon can't launch Kuiper fast enough, and that's with a modest constellation size

Maybe there will be an oversupply once the next generation of reusable rockets become operational and manage to scale up production

finally, a daily telescope worth checking out

>Daily Telescope: A space-based camera spys a secretive Project Kuiper satellite
>Good morning. It's December 13, and today's image comes from a company that images other objects in space—HEO Space. It reveals one of the two Project Kuiper satellites currently undergoing testing in low-Earth orbit.
>Project Kuiper is Amazon's answer to SpaceX's Starlink satellite Internet constellation. However, in the run-up to the October launch of the first two demonstration satellites on an Atlas V rocket, Amazon was super secretive about the satellites.
>Based in Australia, HEO Space flies sensors as hosted payloads on other satellites, with the goal of providing the capability to identify other satellites in space and assess their status, operation, and anomalous behavior.
https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/12/daily-telescope-an-in-situ-image-of-a-project-kuiper-satellite/

>>15921211
oh and from the pic it claims that kuiper sats are about 20m long. fucking huge.

>>15921214
the donny who designed the kuiper sats was previously working on Starlkin and was personally fired by Musk for making the sats too bulky and expensive

Threadly reminder that there's still a nonzero probability that for a brief time the company with the world's most advanced operational orbital launch vehicle will be owned by Jeff Bezos

>>15921232
its near 100%

>>15921232
that might be good to remind SpaceX not to get complacent

>>15920479
nah, it will generate a bunch of various NOx in the stratosphere and do weird shit to the ionosphere (which has zero effect on humanity aside from some weird radio shit that we don't use anymore) but the ozone will be fine

>>15919796
based take

>>15919507
Clearly needs rocket boosters

to solve full self driving they need to get a teslabot to sit behind the wheel and grab the wheel every so often to avoid crashing into cyclists

>>15921188
>>15921174
China's one child policy will be looked back on as an even bigger blunder than Mao's Great Leap Forward. Although the One Child Policy ran from 1979 to 2016, fertility hasn't recovered. The median age is 39 years, with 1.2 live births per woman with a GDP per capita at PPP of $21k . Each of these metrics is worse than the US which has a median age of 38 and 1.8 live births per woman and a GDP per capita at PPP of $76k. Each person born during the decades of the One Child Policy will need to take care of their parents and grandparents-- so that's one worker with potentially 3 elderly dependents. And doing that with far fewer resources than Americans have.

Why does this matter for rockets? Well, because an increasingly large share of the resources of China will be devoted to care of the elderly, the resources that China can devote to other pursuits like rockets, the military, etc will necessarily decrease. A lot of rocketry relies on having high quality inputs, so it's not like China can just prop up the rocketry sector -- rockets rely on many other industries like having a pipeline of enough good engineers, high quality metallurgy, machine shops, chip fabs, etc.

>>15920477
explosion_anime_girl_with_face_replaced_by_jeffs.gif

>>15920479
Dumbest post of the century

>>15921251
one thing that >>15921174 also fails to mention is that while yes, china is trying to increase it's human capital and build a strong middle class of educated workers who will be useful in more advanced fields, it's not happening anywhere near fast enough to replace the economic powerhouse that is their quickly aging and leaving industrial sector.
all those industries that still form a major part of china's economy and job provision will either leave the country or possibly not even find enough people to replace the old workers.
there's a problem in that newer chinese generations now enjoy a certain level of luxury and are genuinely too spoiled to work in the horrible conditions their parents did, their population may be aging but that's not an explanation for the massive level of unemployment especially in the younger part of the populus.

>>15920784
nah he just called you a nigger, which seems appropriate
>>15921253
yeah

>>15921232
Really? I don’t see New Glenn attempting launch until Q3 at the earliest. Do you not believe Starship we reach orbit by then?

>>15921266
YOURE RETARDED.

>>15921251
The one child policy made sense during the period it was in effect, to avoid a deluge of biomass that the country and economy had no ability to meaningfully and effectively absorb. It also freed up resources for investments into infrastructure, that otherwise would have gone to raising children that the country had no use for. China still has more people than they know what to do with even to this day

South Korea and Japan didn't have such a one child policy yet they have low fertility ratio anyway. It's not just a matter of the OCP.

More elderly causing the dependency ratio to decrease will indeed be a drag on the economy compared to if it didn't exist, however it will be more than compensated by things like picrel. The people who would perform the menial labor of caring for the old and infirm will not be skilled aerospace workers. China, like much of the world, has and will have an excess of low skill labor anyway, and the problem will only get worse due to technological trends with AI and automation.

What matters isn't worker-to-dependent ratio, what matters is economic-output-to-dependent ratio. Talking about raw labor force headcount is meaningless. A skilled person with proper tools and infrastructure can be 100 times more productive than an unskilled person. If raw labor force headcount was what mattered, then both China and India would already have been the world's leading economies since long ago

Assuming China can recover the fertility rate to ~2 in the not too distant future, they will have followed the optimal path. The CCP seems to be slowly laying the groundwork for it. They abolished OCP. They're trying to alleviate the worst issues with getting children: cost. They are trying to deflate the real estate bubble so that higher living area won't be ruinously expense, and banned for-profit tutoring to avoid the tutoring arms race causing costs to spiral.

>>15921277
forgot pic

Also, China's retirement ages are ridiculously low, and they have raising the pension age as an option. If democratic Norway could have it at 67, totalitarian China probably can do. It will greatly outweigh the extra costs on daycare when the grandparents aren't available to do the job

>>15921277
>economic-output-to-dependent ratio
Or, more specifically,
economic-output-to-consumption-by-dependents ratio

>>15921266
Do you really see there being zero probability that Starship becomes operational after New Glenn?

>>15921232
>>15921235
>>15921236
New Glenn more advanced than Falcon? I'm not sure. I think once New Glenn can get the first stage reliably landing and reused in a reasonable turnaround time, then it will be at parity with the Falcon family, (which has been doing that since 2016). Until then it's inferior. And it remains to be seen whether New Glenn will actually get to a reusable 2nd stage with high operational cadence before Starship. Personally I think Starship could reuse a 2nd stage in 2025, NG could do it no earlier than 2026. Pic related.

>>15921290
NG has more advanced engines, and is bigger

>>15921290
Actually, I forgot that starhopper was going in 2019. Also, I revised the NG expectations: orbit in 2024, reusable 1st stage in 2025, reusable 2nd stage in 2026.

>>15920336
Nice job posting only recent (probably paid for) reviews, but the reality is that it scores 49% from the beginning.

Stop using /sfg/ to advertise your pathetic demo, Nate. It is a scam just like some of your previous work.

Also stop posting in KSP1 subreddit, you are only getting exposed there since KSP1 with mods mogs your pathetic shitty demo.

>>15921290
I guess it does depend on more than just greater upmass if you want to say one rocket is better than another (cadence and cost/kg perhaps being the most important metrics generally)
but BO might be superior in this one specific metric for a few months (kind of doubt it though)

imagine if elon never left south africa

SUPER MINIMAL SPACE STATION
>RKK Energia apparently mulls "super-minimal" space station as a destination for cosmonauts after the demise of ISS
https://www.russianspaceweb.com/insider-content.html

>>15921232
New Glenn is competing with SpaceX's previous generation rocket so which vehicle are you talking about?

>>15921315
the world would be a better place. iamgine all the rocket startups that didnt work because of elons gay saturation of the market.

>>15921320
russia might have fallen off, but they're still miles ahead of esa

>>15921301
Hey now add the Space Shuttle to that chart with a reusable second stage from 1981-2011.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM1G-B-FK08

https://twitter.com/SERobinsonJr/status/1734920580355252395

>>15921327
there were plenty before musk came along that didn't work, the fact that musk showed it can be done is what inspired such a massive amount of startups
you are such a retard

>>15921334
The worst thing about Europe is that we could have our own space station but politicians just don't want it. There is industrial capability, like Thales making modules for ISS and now Axiom, but on the other hand, there is no will.

>>15921342
how does one become an insider?

>>15921339
advertizing is against the rules

>>15921351
By buying shares

>>15921351
working for spacex or being an investor

>>15921334
Russia has the advantage of only being criminally inefficient when the Czar isn't paying close attention. Europe is always criminally inefficient by design.

>>15921351
Work for SpaceX and get shares as part of your compensation.

>>15921358
>>15921361
>working for spacex
Im a bulgarian without education in stem sadly.

>>15921364
Then your next best option would be to run a multi-billion dollar brokerage group and hope that SpaceX needs to raise a large chunk of cash to keep its projects ticking over.

>>15921308
>Also stop posting in KSP1 subreddit
Way to out yourself, Mr. Redditor. You have to go back, and also, take your meds.

>>15921308
Kill yourself redditnigger KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS GO THE FUCK BACK YOU DO NOT BELONG HERE AND NEVER WILL
>>15921386
Thanks for pointing it out btw

>>15921386
>>15921401
You guys are funny

>>15921406
Jump off a bridge.

>>15921410
climb a mountain.

https://x.com/thesheetztweetz/status/1734992891863257350
KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK OLDSPACE BTFO SPACEX ISNT EVEN IN DEFENCE CONTRACTING AS MUCH AS THEM NO FUCKING WAY

>>15921422
this shits hilaroius. all of spacex is worth less than 20 billion and Elon has managed to swindle investors so much its insane. kind of funny to see and its why hes a great man

>>15921425
dilate tranny ywnbaw

>>15921428
Trump lost.

>Trump lost.

Musks stake at SpaceX is not worth around 75bil
lel

https://myrgv.com/local-news/2023/12/12/starbase-general-manager-discusses-future-plans-at-invite-only-brownsville-event/

>the Falcon Heavy that was set to launch the USSF-52 mission is being lowered at LC-39A.
it's over

Why do some people dislike Spacex?
From a outside perspective they seem like they're doing really good work.

>>15921440
elon bad

>>15921435
*now

>>15921437
>equitable
se acabó

>>15921440
>hey spacex circlejerk, why do people dislike spacex
kys redditor

>>15921435
richest man in the world again?

>>15921440
Reddit Marxists Leftists

Redundant but there's that.

>>15921442
Is it seriously as simple as that?
I couldn't give two shits about Elon Musk, I recognize the talent stood behind him

>>15921445
>kys redditor
No, you

>>15921440
Some people get their opinions downloaded into their brains from trusted and reliable sources who are pushing a political agenda. Other people just like disliking things because they're children who think being contrary makes them look cooler.

>>15921447
I think that has been the case for a while, but TSLA is very volatile

>>15921437
>“We would have love to have multiple flights next year,” she said. “It would be great if we were in the first quarter, definitely. Elon obviously would probably say the end of December, but I don’t think we’ll get there.”
lol

https://twitter.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1734998752807596288

Elon's creating a new university in Texas dedicated solely towards advancement of technology.

>Due to unfavorable recovery weather conditions in the Atlantic Ocean, we are standing down from today's Falcon 9 launch of Starlink. SpaceX teams will continue to monitor weather and a new launch opportunity will be shared once confirmed on the Range
it's so over

>>15921453
many of america's best universities were founded by titans of industry. too bad its in fucking austin.

>>15921462
Starting one in Boca Chica wont do any good. Austin is fine. Its next to future SpaceX headquarter, current Tesla headquarter, Boring Company head quarter, and many other tech companies there.

>>15921445
>circlejerk
Redditor
>>15921449
>no you
Redditor

>>15921464
So what?

>>15921453
TITS (Texas Institute of Technology and Science)

>>15921453
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1453954994546229253

>>15921469
>>15921466
do it faggot

Kill redditors. Behead redditors. Roundhouse kick a redditor into the concrete. Slam dunk a redditor baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy redditors. Defecate in a redditors food. Launch redditors into the sun. Stir fry redditors in a wok. Toss redditors into active volcanoes. Urinate into a redditors gas tank. Judo throw redditors into a wood chipper. Twist redditors heads off. Report redditors to the IRS. Karate chop redditors in half. Curb stomp pregnant redditor redditors. Trap redditors in quicksand. Crush redditors in the trash compactor. Liquefy redditors in a vat of acid. Eat redditors. Dissect redditors. Exterminate redditors in the gas chamber. Stomp redditor skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate redditors in the oven. Lobotomize redditors. Mandatory abortions for redditors. Grind redditor fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown redditors in fried chicken grease. Vaporize redditors with a ray gun. Kick old redditors down the stairs. Feed redditors to alligators. Slice redditors with a katana.

>>15921463
Neuralink and X have operations there too (not sure about X but I think something)

>>15921471
DO THIS NOW!!

>Not an official statement by any means, but at the Galloway Symposium luncheon just now, NASA astronaut Randy Bresnik commented in passing that the Artemis II crew likely will launch in 2025.

>>15921277
>banned for-profit tutoring
First I've heard of this, but in any case you're in GameStop and private school tuition slaps your girlfriend's ass.

>>15921475
So Artemis 3 wont happen until 2027 because SLS can barely put up with once every 16+ months

>>15921475
fucking nasa man

Hey Elon, maybe next time think twice about picking a side in American politics.

>>15921477
dont pretend artemis 3 would happen sooner. SpaceX isnt ready.

>>15921481
Biden admin at work

>>15921342
I wipe my ass with bloomberg

>>15921364
bleak

>>15921491
It's actually worse than you think.

>>15921480
this is pure corruption

>>15921480
So who is getting that money

>>15921497
its obviously going to go into some shitty rural provider's ceo's pocket who will then pay a portion to select government officials as a kickback

>>15921480
>Hey Elon, just kneel to the tyrants
No.

>>15921499
In US do they also lay fiber cables in rural areas areas that connect to nothing? That's how it was here, some company got money, laid cables that people couldn't actually connect to, there's a cable 50 meters from my house that you can't connect to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yZt_xEEzDE

>>15921510
no idea but probably given how scummy most ISPs are

>>15921480
Can/will he sue FCC? It looks like an easy case for SpaceX.

>>15921511
SpaceX is done.

>>15921510
Yes, probably as part of the same global "fiber everywhere" push in the 90s and 2000s. In many cases you can actually connect to it but they'll charge you the price of a small house to do the work.

https://www.commerce.senate.gov/

>>15921480
I still remember anons who tried to say the current administration wasn't against Musk. Fucking faggot, all of them.

>>15921523
It's probably faster and cheaper for him to just deplatform Democrats and all their gay pet media outlets on Xitter.

As a totally legitimate employee of Private Division with the duty to shill KSP 2 on a chinese hypergolic fumes enthusiast forum, I've come to you with a limited time offer:

One Redditor will kill xerself for every person that buys or pirates v0.2.0.0

>>15921497
oldfiber

>>15921561
I aint buying this fucking rugpull. nice try take JEW interactive

lmao Tory was in the news

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcS4ZgwysZs

They probably interviewed him and gave a factory tour for an hour and they used like 3 min of footage for this segment

>>15921561
I'll pirate it if the game actually works this time.

>>15921553
everyone on the far left is against elon. just look at ars posting daily hit pieces about him. there's literally 4 of them on the front page lol.

>>15921561
>World wide release times for a niche spaceflight autism game
Stop pretending your game is hot shit. It only got popular because streamers went "waw cool explosions xD" and then moved on the next day

>>15921585
Final proof that the modern left is a dead loss to society and must be excised like a tumor.
The man who made electric cars popular, who decimated the cost of spaceflight, who surrounded the world with a satellite network to give even the most rural poors internet, who is even trying to break into robotics, THAT guy is their enemy. They are a wasted generation and they'll never be recovered.

>>15921003
>>15920739
Between third world, rural, and institutional/corporate contracts, it would be fair to do a weighted average of $110 (balancing all parties as one). In that sense, $2.64Bn for 2023 is pretty good.