/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15910873
Glass the Earth, demigod war eventually

>>15910873
you did it wrong

Think about it

>>15910893
The crewed section of starship will get twice as tall, there will be plenty of room for activities

Praying for the israelis about to get incinerated in the HOSTAGE RING by adolf muskler

>>15910893
I love it when my rocket is 70% staircase

>>15910881
Fuck off I'm the OP sperg and he did it fine enough, this was a good OP.

Well TGA is over, now back to your regularly scheduled two weeks.

>>15910893
forget the stairs and just put in a fireman pole for people to slide down
>getting back up
low gravity, the pole should be easy to climb

Own nothing. Be happy.

How hard can this "propellant transfer" be? I mean, really?

>>15910893
u dont need stairs in space

>>15910963
Pretty easy, there will be a Shelby-class propellant depot in orbit my the end of this year, screencap this

>>15910996
>Shelby-class propellant depot
I hope they actually call it that.

>>15910911
I love it when my rocket is 98% fuel

holy shit /sfg/ is dead.

>>15911049
euros are waking up, mutts are sleeping, and /sfg/ has like one guy from aus who shows up very rarely.

>>15911049
because space is boring and empty and there's nothing to look forward to

>>15911049
there was another falcon launch just yesterday, few years ago that would've still been generating a lot of posts here, but thanks to musk, spaceflight is now just routine business

>>15911060
Kill yourself
>>15911062
Shut up 8v&oe you're right.

>>15911068
Cope and seethe spacetard

>>15911069
I want you fucking dead.

>>15911073
We need a night launch ASAP. If you think that Starship is beautiful during the day, go watch Terran-1 launch tracking. Methalox is absolutely divine. OHHH MY GOD CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT HOTSTAGING WILL LOOK LIKE WE WOULD ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO SEE ALL THE FIRE COMING OUT OF THE SIDES UNLIKE NOW

>>15910889
ARYAN MILK

>>15911079
Der ewige jude, subverting possible spacetravellers with coomer ideals. Fuck off long nose, we are going to space whether you like it OR NOT.

>>15911049
And a little birdy killed it

>>15911102
Looks weirder from the side

So is the Launch Complex now officially called the 'Gateway to Mars'? I saw it used like that in the recent SpaceX tweet.

>>15911109
Could be. It does all seem a bit unclear.

>>15911123
It almost looks like you could walk through that.

>>15911139
It does, doesn't it? Yet the turbulence would rend your flesh and shatter your bones in an instant. Superheavy is fucking rad.

Just caught this evening's launch from my front porch in uh, a certain greater LA county city in California. I totally don't work where you guys would think I work or anything, that'd be craaaaazy right?

>>15911146
Wow edition #183462836383 of 'I work at (Insert spaceflight company) I swear' with literally no good proof I totally believe you and am not being entirely sarcastic right now.

>>15911159
Tomorrow is SN8 three year anniversary

https://youtube.com/shorts/nRob7JKEZQw
Guys this is big: real live Astro Awards!!! BUY TICKETS NOW

>>15911166
grim

91st? Or was it 92nd now?

>>15910893
>slide on the outside
WEEEEEEEEE

>>15910999
If they don't I'm going to start a space propellant depot company just to make that joke.

>>15910893
Wet workshops are fucking stupid

>>15910893
>no safety pods
I know they insist on the "low casualties" gesamt-design but it would be a lot better with safety pods.

>>15911321
Shut up Schwab I VILL NOT LIVE IN ZE POD OR EAT ZE BUGS

Own nothing. Be happy.

>>15911109
Cringe reddit name. Same with Starbase. I still call it Boca Chica.

>>15910996
>>15910999
checked

>>15911314
you vill breath the vapors

>>15911169
>glove foot

have you guys seen this?
https://twitter.com/tony873004/status/1732961608606056718
shit is fucking awesome

>Project Lyra explores the possibility of sending a spacecraft to chase 'Oumuamua using an Earth gravity assist to reach Jupiter, which robs the craft of almost all its speed, causing it to drop to the Sun for an Oberth maneuver.

>>15910937
Just make it like a telephone pole.

>>15910937
have it as a conveyor belt
one side goes down the other goes up
easy

>>15911432
/sfg/ invents the ladder

>>15911416
looks wild

>>15911443
So this is how the first Chinese-American astronaut will die.

>>15911416
Looks gay.
Imagine being the ayys that sent ouma
I would just glass the planet that did something this gay.

>>15910893
I prefer this version

>>15911443
you mean paternoster?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoCQ6tq5wJE

https://spacenews.com/gao-report-recommends-faa-evaluate-launch-mishap-investigation-procedures/
(((unidentified industry stakeholders))) represented by the GAO + the house transportation committee want the FAA to move away from operator-led launch mishap investigations, which may increase the duration of investigations by 10 to 20 times. This is coming from the GAO and the house. It's very suspect, especially just after IFT-2 and the recent hearing on how overburdened the FAA is.
Saying all of that kind of misses the most ridiculous thing: In order for the FAA to do an independent investigation, they'd need to somehow obtain the relevant expertise and knowledge to actually figure out what went wrong, ala the NTSB, which requires a intimate knowledge of the vehicle involved. This is in an industry where vehicle designs are unique to the launch operator, many of which are experimental in nature.
That's a mad amount of work to foist on an agency already struggling under its present obligations. Seems malicious.

>>15911549
>new biden admin GAO head gets appointed
>immediately wants more regulations on commercial space
Who would have thunk?

>>15911416
Nice

>>15911549
13 more months until this senile fuck and his administration is out of office

>>15911549
to continue: I'd even say that actually implementing this would functionally cripple the FAA, and the result of a mishap investigation would be a multiple year investigatory period in which the relevant vehicle would be grounded.

>>15911416

>>15910889
disgusting cow. built for nothing more than breeding 80IQ retarded looking children.

>>15911416
webm

>>15911580
IM OBERTHING AAAAHHHHH

>everyday astronaut appeared to me in a dream again today
>just like last time he was extremely mean to me and started bullying me, but this time he hit me too
why the FUCK does this keep happening how am I supposed to watch his videos now

>>15911603
have you considered not being a faggot

>>15911603
how did he bully you?

>>15911580
lmao what planet did it bonk into

>>15911616
your mom

>>15911617
I said planet not star

https://blog.ulalaunch.com/blog/vulcan-cert-1-dress-rehearsal-of-launch-day-planned
Vulcan minus the fairing is out at the pad for WDR

https://www.c4isrnet.com/battlefield-tech/space/2023/12/04/will-rocket-cargo-work-data-collected-in-2024-may-hold-the-answer/

> “If our cargo hits [a] hard vacuum, that’s a real problem because we don’t want to make cargo that is specially designed to survive rocket transport,” he said. “This rocket is big enough we could put Humvees in it. [But] if you take a vehicle and put it in a hard vacuum, all of the greases, the oils, the fuels — they’re just going to vaporize instantly.”

>>15911617
It's mum.

>>15911624
pic related is a mom

>>15911598

>>15911580
>KSP glitch run

>>15911580
Why don't we do more shit like this?

>>15911632
kek

>>15911642
look at the date

>>15911642
because this little finesse takes 20 years to pull off
30 if you include engineering and funding circus

>>15911650
it has to launch on time or nothing will line up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVEhq_7tOpo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVEhq_7tOpo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVEhq_7tOpo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVEhq_7tOpo
NEW THUNDERCHAD

genuinely curious, when and how did elon musk learn aeronautical engineering? what engineering role did he play in spacex? any self learning guide lads?

not spaceflight related
>>15911680
he learned around the time he founded SpaceX

New Rocket Report
Small Rockets
>Avio misplaces (and destroys) critical upper stage tanks needed for last Vega mission (the production line for these tanks has already been shut down).
>Stratolaunch is preparing to launch a hypersonic missile simulator for the military.
>South Korea launches satellite on solid rocket, in competition with Best Korea.
>Iran launches animals on Salman solid rocket to an altitude of 80 miles, declares it wants to put astronauts into orbit by 2029.
Medium Rockets
>Amazon purchases three falcon 9 flights from spacex, it's future competitor, for it's kuiper satellite constellation.
>SpaceX plans to increase launch rate from Vandenberg, moving from 30 flights this year to a goal of 100 from the base in 2025. It is also hoping to re-certify falcon 9 first stages for up to 30 flights per booster.
Heavy Rockets
>NASA & SpaceX are contemplating whether to attempt a cryogenic propellant transfer in space during the next starship test. This will be done within the vehicle.
>Space Shuttle endeavour and it's tank+boosters is being vertically stacked for display at the california space center.
>ESA published a call for ideas on the development of a new engine with 250 tonnes of thrust. It may be that the agency believes that the next gen Prometheus engine's goal of 100 tonnes won't be sufficient for the next gen of European rockets.
>BE-4 manager alleges wrongful termination & hostile work environment in lawsuit, citing unreasonable deadlines and Bob Smith's angry outbursts in response to delays.

>>15911701
oops, forgot link:
https://arstechnica.com/?p=1989451

>>15911683
didn't intend to derail this thread, nor wished kill an existent thread by making a thread about this. Just felt that this thread was the appropriate place to ask this.
>he learned around the time he founded SpaceX
shitposting aside, for real?? is he just a conman pretending to be a smart engineer or is he the real deal?

>>15911680
>>15911710
IDK, but I remember reading in liftoff that he was reading translations of russian technical manuals on rocket engines. I think he probably has a surface level understanding that's decent enough (definitely better than Andrew Beal's for example).

>>15911710
He is the singular force that pushed relentlessly for reusability and now SpaceX dominates the launch market. That's all you need to know.

>>15911714
u mean he was just good at convincing engineers to develop this tech ?
>>15911713
> think he probably has a surface level understanding that's decent enough
hmm, ok

>>15911722
>u mean he was just good at convincing engineers to develop this tech ?
Are you trolling? Even if for the sake of argument "he was just good at convincing" that's called leadership and no other company has done what SpaceX did. Even when they know that it is possible, and roughly how it is possible since it is already done

>>15911710
oh my >not spaceflight related comment
was about the thunderfag above you, I don't give him any (You)'s

>>15911726
i guess that answers a part my original question

>>15911701
>>BE-4 manager alleges wrongful termination
This guy complained because Bob Smith of all people was setting 'unreasonable deadlines'. His team was so slow even neo-oldspace couldn't take it.
>“Myself, my leadership team and others throughout the company should not have to constantly apologise and make excuses to ourselves and our teams for the CEO’s bad behaviour,” Stoker’s email said. “We spend significant time smoothing things over, building back morale, repairing damage, stopping people from overreacting. [It is] a hostile work environment [which is] creating a safety and quality hazard for our people, products and customers.”

>>15911159
The froyo flavor is rocky mountain road

how will elon pay 1 billion dollars a year interest on his loans to buy twitter?

>>15911795
its twitter that has the loan and they get money from operations

>>15911827
they dont get 1 billion a year from operations lol. And how did Elon transfer his personal debt to the company?

>>15911795
Selling tesla shares and eventually making spacex public to pay off twitter debt.

>>15911833
taking SpaceX public means brilliant pebbles anon is right because there is no way you cna colonize mars and justify it to shareholder meetings

Musk is going bankrupt. A little birdie told me that Musk is going bankrupt.

>>15911830
they get more than that

>>15911870
Can you provide more details on this?

>>15911369
It reminds me of Gagarin's Start, which is acceptable because it actually refers to something that happened there, not just something that could possibly happen there in a decade.

>>15911923
gagarins start is cringe because who the hell cares about some gay ass paedophile from the soviet union? he touched his kids.

>>15911443
>>15910937
>>15910893
unironically use a rope
mars and moon dwellers need the exercise and a rope is as close to "no part" as you can get

>>15911482
it's not that easy in space

>>15911416
Avi Loeb on suicide watch

>>15911987
>tarzan on the moon

https://youtu.be/4L8MY056Vz8
Artemis critics seem to be missing the forest through the trees. I dont care about the architecture at all, I barely care about returning to the moon. Artemis serves to assist monetarily to the development of Starship, and that will be its sole lasting success

>>15912014
Exactly, Starship is what matters. We can't launch Brilliant Pebbles without it.

>>15911987
>need to get an injured crewmember or someone with a rapidly depressurising suit up the rope
>not my problem bud

what the fuck is a Brilliant Pebble

>>15912027
like starlink for missiles

>>15912024
I don't see a problem with that. Helicopters do it and they have downwash to contend with. It will be easier in space.

>>15912027
Pebbles, plural. Tens of thousands of missile interceptors hanging out in LEO.

>>15912014
>uuhmmmm ackshually i have some concerns about starship. yeah

>>15910873

>>15912024
>rapidly depressurising suit
>inside the pressurized hab

>>15912027
Defense system against ICBMs

>>15912027
Alabama rocks, but in space.

>>15912056
boost-phase interceptors can also intercept boost-glide weapons.

>>15912061
huge-faggots can also intercept huge-faggot-interceptors.

>>15912027
ignore all the idiots, they're trying to mock you. >>15912017
just made it up. Probably it's just that the words sounded good together in his head.

>>15912064
glow nig doing damage control

>>15912070
You can't see it, but I'm rolling my eyes at you. "brilliant pebbles" isn't even a good name, it sounds like something from metal gear.

>>15911143
Mk I journalist warmer

>>15912014
>in practical terms, NASA is a National Security Agency. It is there to demonstrate the superiority of the American way of doing important things over other approaches.
>That was Kennedy's goal during Apollo, and it should be this nation's goal now during the rise of China and President Xi, who asserts his intention that China should be the world's superpower.
>When people tell you they're out to get you, maybe you should pay attention.
>NASA is a National Security Agency because it's about the standing of the United States in the global arena. That's what it's about.
>Sorry scientists, but Hubble is a National Security program. It's about "we're better than you". If that sounds jingoistic, I don't care.

Michael Griffin is too based.

fresh content from Roscosmos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_3MdbKqVec

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irtysh_(rocket)

>>15912079
tell me if it's a powerpoint or not.

>>15911507
based

>>15911616
earth -> jupiter -> sun -> yo mama

>>15911603
see
>>15911987

>>15912014
>hello sars, I will not mention india but india is better than nasa. why are you concerned about china when india is so great?

>>15912086
kek

>>15912077
He said that, but then also said the Government should be designing the rocket/lander, not the company, basically begging for Shuttle 2.0. Griffin strings based and cringe statements together in an incoherent babble. Says we cant go without a HLV (we have two). Complains about gateway and Artemis as mismanaged (true but not as mismanaged as Constellation) and argues we're further away from a Moon landing than ever (delusional). Tiptoed around every question at the end, saying he doesnt know enough about Starship HLS or New Glenn to comment. Is he living under a fucking rock? more likely he's just lying or was paid to get a narrative out there.
The proximity of this to the SmarterEveryDay talk and declaration by Boeing they will never do fixed price contracts again seems a bit too convenient. All three within about a month span, and right around IFT-2. Seems convenient

>>15912087
That interaction was bizarre.
>india does better than nasa with less money. can we just get over this now
PLEASE SIR STOP, STOP NOW, DO NOT GO TO MOON

>>15912094
He also said that he had never heard the words "Red Dragon" before. What he's saying between the lines is that SpaceX going to Mars or even the Moon isn't what's important. The important role for SpaceX is getting things into orbit cheap.

>>15912094
>>15912104
>they think they can contain SeX to LEO

>>15912108
Newfag. SpaceX or SeX are the newfag name. Oldchads remember when it was called SET

>>15912108
He didn't say that. He said he thinks it's fine if SpaceX goes to Mars since that's their money to spend how they like. But he's obviously not interested in it, not something he pays attention to.

>>15912117
Stop pretending to be an oldfag its cringe.

>>15912118
The case for government led interplanetary missions is very hard to make when the private industry does it already, and mostly of its own accord. I'm not sure how the "all space exploration should be government operated" crowd approaches that.

>>15912125
*IF private industry does it.

>>15912104
>>15912125
Griffin just loves rimming government ass, and his management of NASA set back human spaceflight decades

>>15912077
GEOPOLITICAL STRENGTH THROUGH 18TH CENTURY BAKING TECHNIQUES

>>15912077
>Demonstrate the superiority of the American way over communism
>By establishing a centralized governmental agency
What did they mean by this?

>>15912125
>"all space exploration should be government operated" crowd
Michael Griffin is not in that crowd. He says that the US government should go to the Moon before China does because it's important for national prestige and America's international reputation. He doesn't say anything about private industry not going to the Moon or Mars, he's explicitly stated that he's not opposed to them doing so.

>If Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos want to spend their own money on going to the Moon and they want to call it commercial.. have at it. It's not my money. Be my guest, enjoy yourselves.

>>15912146
NASA is a civilian agency that uses commercial contractors to actually build the hardware.

How do you build a pressurized surface habitat out of regolith without it being blown apart by the pressure difference?

>>15912153
Engineering.

>>15912153
I don't believe that you do. The surface habitat designs I've seen use regolith for additional radiation shielding, but don't use it to hold pressure.

>Smart Rocks
>Brilliant Pebbles
What next, Intelligent Stones? Genius Gravel?

Posted in last thread too.
https://spacenews.com/egypt-joins-chinas-ilrs-moon-base-initiative/
China could use these nations to subsidize its own industry and increase soft power in space with these programs. Offer and encourage lesser nations into buying Chinese products. Then influence there international space policy. Could be a big deal if played right.

>>15912079
It's a shame about the Soyuz-5. The RD-171MV really is an impressive engine.

>>15912167
YES

>>15912153
make glass or concrete
the pressure difference is at most 1 bar
find something else to worry about

>>15912167
lens flare boulders

>>15912167
>Genius Gravel?
This is the one

im so mad i wasnt born in the era of rampant space colonization .. im young enough to see it happening but id be over the age of being able to leave this planet, gotta kms

>>15912163
>>15912153
Thin plastic membrane to hold in the air, with loose regolith on top of it to balance the pressure and stop it from popping.

>>15912167
>intelligent stones
>genius gravel
you've got 3 trillion dollars and 30 years

imagine the chinese being rendered powerless by genius gravel

>>15912188
another century of humiliation...

stone toss sounds better

>>15912196
amogus stones

>>15912167
Reasonable Rubble

>>15912167
Orbital Alabama River Rocks

Maturing in your understanding of space endeavors is realizing that NASA being a jobs program, though inefficient, is massively beneficial to modern spaceflight.

>>15910873
>>>/wsg/5368955

>>15912226
well... you aren't wrong. Wasn't always that way though: once upon a time, NASA tried to monopolize human spaceflight. You also missed that as a consequence of being a jobs program, they really didn't like competitors to their contractors.

>>15912233
whos dis?

>>15912259
Elon Musk

>>15912266
Elmo Mumbleking

>>15912259
Steve Jurvetson. An investor, I think? I don't know why anon posted this pic.

>>15912259
Robert Zubrin

What is the protocol if someone were to die wearing a space suit, but the physical suit is fine? Would they just "recycle" it? The new models are like 228.5 million a suit.

>>15912296
Part of the reason they're so expensive is they're individually tailored.

>>15912167
nope
after that we'll go back to Dumb Cinderblocks and Retarded Boulders

>>15912167
astute ashlar

>>15912296
Ship back down to earth for repair and cleanup, send back up for active service

>waste dV inducing spin to two heavy crafts
>Need to design latch strong enough
Are there any concept drawings of articulating arms with some form of hose system? Pic id the idea obviously not to scale, but transferring through spinning looks like a massive PITA. I haven't seen anyone mention something like this before. It would be made to find the bubbles and zuck them through.

>>15912296
EVA will primarily be done inside pressurized machines like how von braun initially envisioned.

>>15912334
>EVA will primarily be done inside pressurized machines
*entry plugs

>>15911102
Just look at these mountains, how small they look with tiny trees covering them, compared to the rocket behind them. Starship is huge.

>>15912334
why would you put a dude inside? just use a smaller drone and have a pilot control it remotely

>>15912350
until AGI a manned vehicle is superior to an unmanned one

pure kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikJ3S1J9P7k

back in the day when normgroids didnt know what SpaceX was.
~3k hardcore fans in the youtube stream hyped to see if falcon lands or not

>>15912337
No mountains or trees around Boca Chica: just sand dunes and shrubs.

>>15912014
>>15912077
Was there for this. Absolutely hilarious to see the reactions of all the old space people in the room

>>15912297
SpaceX's suits are individually tailored, the XMU just has interchangeable parts in a few sizes to accommodate the astronauts.

>>15912391
Axiom suits dont exist. SpaceX suits do

>>15912297
The ones on the ISS aren't. They have a few sizes and use the one that fits the best.

>>15912172
That sounds good on paper but in practice doesn't work with poor countries.

>>15910893
i used to work in fuel storage tanks. fuck that noise.

>>15912419
yeah, I suppose it would get very echo-y

>>15912422
i forgot about that. i've dropped tools in one and the noise is deafening even with earplugs in.

>>15912366
merry christmas anon, thanks for sharing blessed falcon 9 content

>>15912424
imagine the choir singing though
https://youtu.be/9rjix44QzFQ?si=BCPIlaKjuQxID8Ss&t=78

>>15911925
>t. anon has not even once, literally never in his entire life, been hugged by either of his parents

>>15912440
Martian tunnels will echo with the voices of the Royal Choir some day

>>15912024
Tie them to the rope, pull it up?
Incredibly versatile, this rope technology.

>>15911710
Why would Elon need to spend more than a year or two learning aerospace engineering, when everyone that HAS spent 8+ years learning it hasn't accomplished a single notable thing since the 1970s? If anything, the level of specialization everyone else in the industry goes through with their education is a detriment to progress. The entire mentality behind SpaceX is basically "engineer the process, not the part" i.e: don't waste engineering talent on overcomplicating a part to solve an issue; instead, use the resources to simplify and streamline as much as possible first. That attitude is complete anathema to the aerospace sector - every other company SpaceX competes with is violently allergic to the mere suggestion of simple and cheap solutions to complex problems.

such a slow news day

>space force activates european and african commands
https://www.airandspaceforces.com/space-force-component-europe-africa/

i think thats it for regional commands. maybe latin america is the final one yet to be activated? might be awhile though since the region is mostly dead for space warfare concerns.

>>15912296
how would someone die in a space suit without it getting damaged? it's not like they select people prone to heart attacks to go to space

>>15912477
They got vaccinated.

>>15910893
If you're gonna do this you should cut an airlock in at the bottom

>>15912480
Go back MIGAtard

>>15912177
Ok now how do you stop it tearing upwards off its foundations.

First operational Zhuque 2 launch is a success

>>15912495
t. vaxxie blood clot sack

>>15912395
It's the EMU, not XMU. The EMU is the ISS suit that's been in use since before you were born. I'm not that retarded anon that can't get his acronyms right, but he's right about the EMU having interchangeable parts of different sizes. The EMU also sucks mega AIDS dicks and causes pretty gnarly injuries (it's been known to skin knees and rip fingernails off) because of its one-size-fits-none nature.
Axiom's gay larp is the AxEMU which probably still does the same thing with swappable standardized size parts instead of individually tailored full suits, but I can't be sire as I haven't found anything that says conclusively one way or the other.

>>15912524
>skin knees and rip fingernails off
how retarded are those astronauts we send up there?
when I wear a glove of the worng size i find it difficult to lose fingernails.
How does that happen?

>According to a Weibo post, LANDSPACE was willing to have a public live stream of the launch but it was blocked by the launch center, even though the launch site is LANDSPACE’s own.
Bureaucracy plague is everywhere.

>>15912511
gg
Methane race is truly over now
China (numba) won

>>15912541
It's quite a pretty rocket
Honestly all the methalox rocket in dev are pretty.

Where is Russias answer to the X-37b?

https://ria.ru/20151003/1296222546.html

>>15912544

>>15912544
Not a huge fan of the tip but the color scheme is very nice

>>15912547

>>15912531
Astronauts lie and say it fits so they can do an EVA

Zhuque-2 launch video
https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1733281468980588716

How is China so strong?

>>15912455
based rope understander

>>15912314
My first novel idea, and not a single (You). I truly am an NPC.

Owari da...

>>15912571
Everyone else besides SpaceX is weak and unmotivated

>>15912505
see
>>15911987

>18.3t droneship reuse
kek, copy down to the payload mass

>>15912552
but how do they injure themselves like that inside a pressure suit?

>>15912480
kek

>>15912495
you will not divide us

>>15912548
circumcision is uncommon in china

>>15912585
zannen deshita

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzPKgTuRwbs

>>15912607

>>15912314
Is the red line supposed to be a diaphragm? If so, why do you need the BubbSuck5000? If not, what is it supposed to be doing?

>>15912612
>>15912607
(that's a CZ-2C btw)
UDMH is still the best plume

>>15912616

Should the Euros convert the massive Ekofisk oil platform to a StarShip spaceport?

>>15912586
Except China

>>15912405
You are correct, but China suckered many nations into Belt and Road. I am picturing this as something similar and to buy votes / influence in space. We are doing somthing similar with UN space and African Union space to a certain extent. Think that DreamChaser UNOOSA mission will happen?

https://twitter.com/jessica_kirsh/status/1733284778567200852/photo/1

Elon's new home address down at Starbase

>>15912615
Red line is the separation barrier between the tanks. Lox and Ch4 have their own internal arms going to and zzucking the bubbles.

>>15912561
Rather modest thrust to weight ratio on that thing.

>>15911925
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting r3ddit-kun

>>15912648
This manchild must be stopped at all costs

>>15912648
imagine delivering a pizza to 1488 Memes St and elon answers the door

>>15912659
Look at all that waste water being dumped into the ecosystem...

>>15912545
They don't have money or talent for it and they probably think it's a waste of time for them ATM even if they had money and talent. They struggle to even get payloads to the ISS.

>>15912671
42069 Memes Street
Starbase, TX

>>15912675
Literally equivalent to rainwater for all intents and purposes and less localized volume than a rainstorm.

>>15912659
Can someone sync every body wants to rule the world FAMK Sea Dragon bit?

>>15912690

>>15912693
>section line thrusters

>>15912621
YWNBAW

>>15912072
Could you be a bigger faggot?

>>15912167
Scintillating Scree

>>15912039
Kekd

>>15911722
>u mean he was just good at convincing engineers to develop this tech ?
He's paying them, he doesn't need any more convincing than that.

>>15912314
Couldn't they just have some kind of piston driven pressure feed system?
Like a caulk gun
It seems like the easiest way to push fluid from one tank to another in zero g

https://twitter.com/raz_liu/status/1733320180724629843

https://www.thespacereview.com/article/4503/1
do not click if you don't want to get even more depressed

what are the chances this thing would have worked?


>Rescue LM
The LM’s two-stage main propulsion system, combined with the fully redundant reaction control system and versatile guidance and navigation capability, offered an in-orbit maneuvering manned vehicle of unique capability. The application of this capability by a LM with very limited modifications would permit in-orbit intercept of, and rendezvous with, other space vehicles for such purposes as personnel rescue, and spacecraft inspection or repair.

https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1733323511949865191

>>15912780
Gamechangher. Quantum leap in rocketry. Amazing work from great country. It's that simpre

>>15912780
certainly a step up from a powerpoint

Talk about your omens....

>>15912780
Ambitious. Paper projects frequently overestimate and undershoot, so we'll have to wait and see how close they can actually come to meeting those targets, but at least they're actually trying to follow the leaders in aerospace rather than flounder around with last generation technology to catch up to a moving target that literally moved past their new aim point a decade ago.

https://twitter.com/InfographicTony/status/1733103221160161372

>>15912780
China is absolutely incredible

>>15912780
The engines are flight proven and LandSpace has developed their rockets really fast so far, this isn't vaporware like the CNSA models

https://www.c4isrnet.com/battlefield-tech/space/2023/12/04/will-rocket-cargo-work-data-collected-in-2024-may-hold-the-answer/

> in about three years, the department should have enough data to make a decision on whether to operationalize Rocket Cargo or move onto something else

>Next year, the Air Force also plans to have a cargo bay mockup — basically the upper half of a Starship.

>hat mockup is now in the final stages of construction by the engineering firm SES in Alliance, Ohio.

> by 2026 — though Spanjers said it could be done by 2025 — the Air Force expects the Rocket Cargo program to demonstrate the ability to rapidly launch rockets, bring large masses of cargo down from orbit, and rapidly load and unload cargo.

>the Air Force Research Laboratory wants to collect is information on how fast pressure drops when a rocket reaches space

>the Air Force plans to collect data on every Starship launch using both external and internal sensors.

>>15912780
china is VERY strong..

>>15912823
If you want to observe, here's the how to.

https://skyandtelescope.org/astronomy-news/asteroid-will-cover-betelgeuse-may-reveal-its-visible-surface/

>>15912852
The recent wumao posting is hilarious.

Booster 10 spin prime... save me... Booster 10 spin prime. Save me booster 10 spin prime.
https://twitter.com/VickiCocks15/status/1733303324164727267?t=mYZtpMj87TZ5acUXwI5GSg&s=19

>>15912935
Too bad I cant fucking watch this or do anything except study right now. GOD I HATE FINALS WEEK SO MUCH.

>>15912273
very early Musk investor and rocket geek. Got Tesla #1

Was I dreaming or something went wrong with last transporter mission?

>>15912962
Yup Zuma 2.0

>>15912968
omg they made a new one??

any anons going to the astro awards?

>>15912950
You and me both brother

>born to early to colonize space
>born just in time to have hope that future generations will
we're the lucky damned

>>15912780
nice cgi, when is it launching?

>>15913021
2025

>>15913014
it's clear that Elon musk gas become too powerful at apacex and he how makes his clownly decisions either no genius like Tom Mueller to push back on him.

>>15913079
>phonepost
>anti-elon
>bait and/or sarcasm
based

>15913079
at this point what's the point of baitposting anymore? there's 50-60 baitposts per thread and none of them are even remotely believable, why do people waste their time doing this?

>15913081
>15913142
>bair posts
>posts something factual which you dont like
this is why we blue originals are laughing at you.

>>15913142
It's a subtle hint that it's time to leave this place, start a family and become a productive member of society.

CRS-30 patch was unveiled.

/sfg/ is dead...

>>15913151
>xxx
Is this the first sex in space?
I cant wait to see a qt female astronaut getting used like a fleshlight in zero g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoJsPvmFixU

In other threads you guys said this video has a lot of inaccuracies but can you point them out to me please instead of just saying "he's retarded"?

>>15913170
2.5% of GDP over 10 years for a bunch of touch and go landings

>>15912851
Did we ever find out why the actual starship exploded? I know superheavy had multiple engine failures.

>>15912851
>Starship breaks in two
Kino, reminds me of the Titanic

>>15913262
I don't think so, SpaceX can be kinda secretive about this stuff since they don't really need to tell anyone what happened. The only way we'll probably find out is if Elon randomly posts about it in a reply to someone on Twiiter.

>>15913170
Nothing he says is really meaningful
first 20 minutes is self-fellation and asserting his expertise by telling stories how his whole family worked on rockets, followed by motivational speech on how great Apollo was how Artemis should be more like Apollo
>you need a lot of meetings and be smart and you can do it, just like grandpa
Then he rambles on about destructive tests are important and how you cannot do baby steps (something he was apparently blown away but forgot about by the next slide)
I'm sure the whole thing was entertaining intermission for the 20 or so attendees in the room. These symposiums are incredibly boring.

Anyway, the few technical key points he makes are beyond ignorant and misleading.
Refuelling was in fact already demonstrated (not by Starship, I admit).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robotic_Refueling_Mission
The main reason why it is not used for NASA missions is certain Alabama senator (one Destin or his dad probably voted for, being from Alabama himself)
As it is tradition, no budgets are ever compared or questioned with these pop-sci garbage.

>>15913271
>CO2 fire suppression
was this ever confirmed? I kind of dismissed it because the only person that was talking about it was the basketball american that gets shilled here regularly.

>>15913309
meant for >>15912851

>>15913309
"The nigger", was what you meant to type. "The nigger."

>>15913306
>pic
This is the actual size. At least for Starship compared to BO's.

>There are a MASSIVE amount of new developments to cover this week!

https://youtu.be/O3D7T722CqU

>>15912950
>>15913009
agelets, when will they learn?

>>15913170

>>15913170
he's retarded

>>15913275
>>15913262
you could just xeet at Elon and ask him

>>15913448
this week. they're studying for finals

honestly debunked musk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Acx_n2WfYM

>>15913477
>confirmation bias against tesla
who cares

>>15913306

Tell me more about this senator and what you're implying.

For reference I'm trying to make sure this guy really did misspoke because I can't use 4chan-tier arguments when I discuss this video with people IRL.

>>15913481
>Tell me more about this senator
Only a newfag wouldn't about the senator from Alabama.

>15913477
i get that it''s ironic and you're baiting, but can you stop advertizing retards here?

>>15913481
shelby said if he is going to hear one more word about depots he is going to cancel the whole programme (don't remember what programme it was, but probably something big)

>>15913477

>>15913170
It rubs people the wrong way because Destin has only a cursory knowledge of spaceflight. The average autist could have given a more useful presentation yet people found it entertaining so they're holding it in high regard, pretending it's going to change anything at NASA.

As an example, what he 'discovered' about NRHO and Orion has been known here for years.

I WAS BLOWN AWAY WHEN I FOUND OUT THEY'RE NOT USING HYPERGOLICS

>>15913514
there is no reason why superheavy is not hypergolic. it works for the chinese.

>>15913170
The second half of the video showed he had a poor understanding of both the goals of Artemis and SpaceX's architecture, leaning heavily on a romanticized view of Apollo.

>>15913170
He's spreading disinformation, possibly malinformation. He's paid by Boeing

>>15913577

What disinformation?

>>15913309
yes. straight from the horses mouth. no im not gonna spoonfeed you newnigger

>>15913590
you will need to read the previous threads for my long form answer

https://youtu.be/WXK1V67VCec?si=ANzsb14DhKSvahAt
keyed, angry said cancel MSR. next he should say this about dragonfly.

>>15913170
see >>15910377. all his points are contradictory and stating the obvious like its some new revelation. he's a midwit who thinks he's smart but is really just huffing his own farts because he's a youtuber and 'le smart' (literally in his channel title.

>>15913448
what did he mean by this.

/sfg/ is dead

>>15913481
As mentioned before, he believes longer-lived orbital infrastructure would risk legacy jobs in space sector, jobs located primarily in his voting district.
Fuel depots specifically would make SLS rather pointless
Instead of SLS, you could use Falcon heavy (or even Atlas V) for fraction of the costs

Not that he was completely happy with SLS.
He demanded SLS should change the boosters to liquid fuelled ones in the future. Not because solids are more expensive, dangerous or inefficient, but because they are made in Utah.

so when do we get to colonize the alien blue catpeople to enslave and use as sex slaves?
https://youtu.be/AK14JjEwmuE

>>15913762
never, ywngts coomer. stay on this horrid rock

>>15913750
KSP 3 waiting room

>>15913766
>coomer-obsessed retard again
glad i was able to draw you out, why do you keep subjecting yourself to being bullied, you could just hold your tongue instead.

>>15913776
>glownigger

>>15913774
KSP 2 gets good on the 19th

>>15913776
anonymous image board, your samefagging every reply to 'bully' me (actually pathetic attempts) doesnt change the fact you will never be a woman. go dilate your axewound pathetic freak, ill keep posting it since its clearly making you pissy.

IFT downtimes suck.

>>15913878
let me twist your head off your neck.

>>15913826
>n-no this one person who keeps replying in the exact same way with the exact same sentence structure is actually someone completely different you stupid schizo!
considering how much you hate heterosexual acts i take it all the sperging about trannies is projection too, what a freak you are.
>i'll keep posting since it's clearly making you pissy
i was literally inviting you to post more, it's hilarious watching you writhe in pain about peoples natural urge to dominate over sexy female blue ayys.

>>15913880
It's not OFT get bent oldtroon.

>>15913887
but what ift i get oft on using them interchangeably?

>>15913691
answer me now.

>>15913902
he is calling people doing finals young

Bros theres actually a possibility of 100 launches this year. 93 so far and another FH tomorrow, and another Starlink coming soon. 20 days left, and we have Starship rollout soon. We need a poll on this, 100 launches by end of 2023 yes or no, can someone do it?

>>15913909
What are we supposed to be learning that he's not telling us thoughever.

>>15913911
It's possible but it's going to be cutting it really close. There are some autists over on the NSF forums that are tracking individual boosters and clocking turn-around times and the opinion there is that there's almost no margin left in the schedule.

>>15913934
There were 9 launches in the last 20 days, they can actually make it.

MUSH FASTER STARSLAVES WE MUST REACH 100 LAUNCHES BY EOY

>>15913946
I really dont think its possible. not enough demand

>>15913986
Did you forget about Starlink?

>>15913986
Theres literally a FH flight tomorrow.

Tiny fairing of the FH with X37B ready for launch!

>>15913946
I mean 100 launches per year in a sustainable market. SpaceX spams their unprofitable meme satelites, but the natural space economy is small and will only get smaller with more fiber optic and new generation cell towers coming online. The real space economy minus military launches and science is ~10 flights of medium to light lift per year

>>15913946
We already have

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_in_spaceflight

[spoiler]>>15913306
Smol brain LEM: "for all mankind..."
MIdwit woke National team" BLM, *pride flag, equality"
Starship: "Who owns the press? Hello!

>>15913914
You're supposed to learn not to be young

>>15914014
What does that entail? Not working toward my life goal of leaving this god forsaken rock? Id rather have my drive and purpose if you mean I should be living a hedonistic and careless life.

>>15914002
No faggot I meant SpaceX only. Wasted trips

>>15913999
Why so much rocket for the x37?
Is it going in a high orbit or something?

>>15914002
>108 launches by the soviets in 1982
The hell were they doing?

>>15914080
no, they're just filling it to the brim with tungsten balls

>>15912167
Intellectual Igneous

>>15914080
Yes, but they won't say which one.
>it's to downmass the QI test sat after orbit change
>source: it came to me in a dream

>>15914082
spysats with film cameras

>>15914048
https://spaceflightnow.com/2023/12/08/live-coverage-spacex-to-launch-falcon-9-rocket-from-california-carrying-22-starlink-satellites/

>>15914090
Stop posting this awful coal.

>>15914110
I said in 2023

https://twitter.com/rookisaacman/status/1733618196769284432

>>15914112
kys negro

>>15914115
kys redditcel

>>15914119
seethe

>>15914123
>Admitting to being a redditnigger
Yeah, you have to go back.

>>15914126
this

>spacex plans 100 launches from vandenberg in 2025
we're going to need a bigger space force

>>15914032
It means stop being young, agelet

>>15914144
Fuck off oldtroon

>>15914148
dont lie, you like being shamed youngsissy

what is the agelet cutoff?

>>15914170
45

>>15914188
no lie, ywngts. too old to have your life extended by innovating medicines, too young to have experienced the golden era of apollo. what a miserable life.

>Musk fears this.

>>15914115
part of a longer thread

>>15914144
kek, based longevity enjoyer

muskcels?.. our response..?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0DWLibRaws

>>15914236
Our standard response is that posters who use ellipsis should be executed.

>15914236
>our response..?

>>15914241
reported for announcing a report + self report for announcing a report

>>15914148

>>15914246
Thank you for your service!

>>15914236
>>15914240
>>15914241
>>15914247
>>15914250
samefag

This has been a good /sfg/

pisslocks

>>15913815
>The engooding of KSP 2
I want to find all of the new discoverables, I'm pretty sure I already found everything in the game upon release. Pic is outdated, Duna looks better now since Blackrack started working his magic and he says there will be a substantial boost in FPS in the upcoming version.

>>15914241
Enjoy your vacation

>>15914284
>This has been a good /sfg/

>>15911079
Kek I think this was from the sls green run, maybe the first attempt.

another great edition of /sfg/ wrapping up, great work everyone

>>15914327
Thank you :) it's my birthday
It's also SN8 anniversary day. Happy 3 years!

>>15914334
nobody cares shut up attentionwhore

have to increase the ratio of shitpost to spaceflight talk in the next edition a bit more

>>15914080
FH can easily put the X-37B into Geo, so it's almost certainly going to Geo. A regular F9 is enough to put it into anything LEO, and medium/high orbit don't really have any relevancy afaik.

>>15914334
>it's my birthday
the agelet is learning

>>15914340
I care about SN8

Staging

>>15914357
>>15914357
>>15914357

>>15914352
i forgot how goddamn kino the wreckage of SN8 looked.
has it already been this long bros?

>>15911580
this is WAY too close to the sun to ever work also we should do it
>>15913577
search the /sci/ archives until you find the first time that video was posted, then read the threads