/sci/ - Science & Math

Why do the feds control airspace. Shouldn't states control their airspace?

Starship is a spaceplane

Starship is a rocketship

first for HOT STAGING

https://youtu.be/mq2hymWPN1I
spacex youtube uploaded a new video! Falcon 1 flight 4

>>15850917
why on a rival platform? what happened xbros?

>>15850918
Theyve been hemorrhaging ad revenue

Modernized hotstaging M1D Falcon 1. Two GEM 63XL SRBs on the side. Manned Dreamchaser on top. Call it the Nelson Stack

>>15850920

first for Tom Mueller

>>15850919
spacex has mountains of money from starlink now and has no further need to fund starship development with youtube ad revenue.

I've been shitting like crazy and it may be my anxiety about this license situation. What if they really don't grant it? they cant launch next week and all these holidays stopping the FAA. This could drag on longer and longer, that hearing really didnt help. Maybe made FWS even more bold.

>>15850931
it gets worse, this bombshell just hit at the worst time. congress is NOT happy with muskrat at all right now.

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/spacex-musk-safety/

>>15850917
what the hell I always thought Flo Li was chinese

>>15850935
hello Pluto poster, >>15848658

>>15850938
hello Pluto poster, >>15849930

>>15850931
Well Prepare to shit some more as you watch sapcexes baluation go form 30 billion dollars to ZERO. Musk doesnt have much time left to get the 25% failure rate raptor and 100% failure rate starship operational or he's getting sued by NASA and all the investors will pull out

>>15850943
try again

NOVEMBER 17th ITS HAPPENING

https://x.com/spacex/status/1723158118706839819?s=46&t=ySaWSLoZU6lwZ7u03-FcBQ

>>15850935
hello Pluto poster, >>15849930
(fuck I hate it when I can't get a post right)

>>15850948
They are now salty posting? Desperate!

>>15850948
AHHHHHHHHHH

>>15849930
>electrocutions
>one death
What did they mean by this?

SPACEXX IS BACK ON YOUTUBEEEEEEE

AAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>15850959
it's Xover

>>15850935
This is bad

Comments on that youtube video are exploding

>>15850938
workplace whore

>>15850948
why do they keep edging like this? they didnt do this for OFT-1

>>15850948
about time

>18,885 views 55 minutes ago

>>15850948
HOLY SHIT

>>15850948
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>15850973
>>15850948
>still no launch license
TWO WEEKS

>>15850978
According to the number on the screen, launch is only in 1 week!

>pending final regulatory approval

It's literally not even close to confirmed. Put your dicks back in your pants niggers.

>>15850980
TOO LATEEE

>>15850980
SpaceX is launching on the 17th. You're just mad!

hype hype hype hype hype hype hype hype hype hype hype hype hype hype hype

https://youtu.be/18pCXD709TI
ANOTHER UPLOAD
RAPIDFIRE
IT'S HAPPENING
STREAMS WILL RETURN TO YOUTUBE

so they're legally allowed to put the FTS on even if they dont have launch approval?

fuck it, we'll do it live

>>15850986
TWO
WEEKS

Consider this: They aren't waiting for the license. They're waiting to catch the FAA lacking. Never forget SN8. You don't need a license, you need plausible deniability (maybe not even that)

>>>/wsg/5333810
Looking forward to the launch. Can't wait to watch it with Clear and all of you!

>>15851000
Starship will Clear the tower

so now that its CONFIRMED that the redditor is a larper can we stop posting them

tell me how you are going to "fly" a drone in liquid methane? tell me motherfucker

>>15851000
>JAXA noticed her
>they gave her a freaking job as official JAXA VTuber or something

So proud for Clear

>>15850935
this is irrelevant, you are a retard

>>15851000
cute

>>15850987
total NSF death

Starship | Preparing for Second Flight Test

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18pCXD709TI

Falcon 1, Flight 4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq2hymWPN1I

>>15850917
isnt this a little late?

>>15850917

>>15851027
How do I buy this to piss off stolen valor anon?

>>15851015
Nice use of static fire drone footage and the cybertruck filming in there.

OFT-2 only on X

>>15851031
shutupshutup

>>15851013
>that view of Starship filling up as the drone ascends up the booster

so fucking good

>>15851031
That will be fine because clear will restream and anime seethers will have no choice but to make a xeeter account or watch clear.

>>15851050
I've seen so much seething here and in the youtube comments of the just posted announcement that I really hope they only stream it on X

>>15850948
Oh my God! (by which I mean Elon)

MAKE AMERICA SPACE AGAIN

>>15850980
oversisters, we have finally been defeated

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1723160266517406082

lol its over
IFT-2 happening in 2024 confirmed

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1723176880621154693

https://twitter.com/whoisheartbreak/status/1723158872368844933
>could be

I've got a fever

Clear is moving up

>>15850948
PENDING FINAL REGULATORY APPROVAL GEEEEEEG ITS NOT COMING THIS YEAR BACKCEL

SN9 should have been a wake-up call for spacex safety culture. how many people have to die before we get serious?

>>15850978
THIIIIIS SO MUCH THIIIIS TWO MORE WEEEKS YOU STUPID BACKGGERS HAAHHAHAHAHAHA

>>15851069
>how many people have to die
all of them

>>15851056
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA EVEN ELON IS SAYING TWO WEEKS DUMB BACKCATTLE WILL BE BTFO NEXT WEEK WITH NO LICENSE

>>15851075
americans work through the week before thanksgiving before giving up for 6 weeks. it's now or 2024.

>>15851031
>>15850969
Its IFT, not even orbital. Get it right.

How far will Starship go?
https://strawpoll.com/eJnvvwVbGnv

How many Super Heavy engines fail?
https://strawpoll.com/jVyG8mxekn7

>>15851078
Geg whoever says 1-2 is a moron

>>15851079
I did

>>15851078
The other one, these are all distinct answers, the top one is really just "starship fully suceeds" lets be honest here. I think that vote is dumb when hot staging is such a point of contention along with Raptors 100% going to shut off, fractional orbit failure anons are reasonable though, they could get it right first time but Raptors are just too big of a concern to ignore this time around. The launch would have to be absolutely perfect to get to reentry failure, at which that point yeah Starship tiling DEFINETLY wont hold up considering some JUST fell off while at that pad. Whichever one of you morons voted for full success needs to be put in a mental institution or in the hot staging ring before launch

>>15851081
Anon, I.....

if saturn 5 can lose the center engine (20% of total thrust) and limp to orbit, then super heavy can lose 6. verification not required.

>>15851077
revisionist history fuck off

>>15851000
If we get to orbit Clear will probably cum on stream. Along with every self respecting space fan.

>>15851085
it's all a matter of your TWR

>>15850948
That's the day the federal government shuts down?

>>15851093
oh shit it is

>>15851094
oh shit, it's over again

>>15851066
I want my penis in her

I don't get the hot staging FUD in regards to starship. The real concern is superheavy getting btfo by the ploom. So long as the locking mechanism comes undone and the engines fire then what is there to go wrong?...

>>15851103
overpressure or blowback smashing up the ship engines, obviously.

>>15851103
If the exhaust gasses of the 6 second-stage engines tear a hole in the top of the booster and then the booster explodes and a concussive shockwave/debris fucks up the rear of starship before it’s far enough away to be safe. We saw what raptors did to a bunch of concrete during IFT1, a thin/fragile stainless steel rocket might not fare well!

>>15851117
Thunderf00t debunked hotstaging already

>>15851117
rocket exhaust can't melt steel beams

>>15851117
only RVacs light to seperate

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>15851075
I want to squirt white liquid into that frogs mouth

>>15851127
WHAT IS THIS NUSPACEDOODOOS

>>15851129
yes... plz keep sending those pics... oh yes... open that mouth

>>15851117
>>15851119
>>15851120
>>15851123
Ok, so each raptor outputs a max of between 510-570 tonnes. Not sure the surface area it’s spread out to by the time it gets to the top of the booster, or what throttle profile they will use. But it’s a lot of force on a part of the rocket that is optimized to be as light as possible. I hope it works (and I think it probably will, if not in this flight than in one soon after). There’s a ton of ways to make it work (better armor on the booster, taller interstage, more gradual throttle profile, etc) so it’s not an insurmountable material science/engineering problem but spacex sometimes tests marginal designs in the hopes that they work, so this could be one of those high risk, high reward designs like not having a showerhead on stage 0 for ift1

>>15851132
post your tribute now

>>15851157
i need more frog pics (especially the ones with the open mouth wide af)

Why are we trying to get each other banned again?

Transporter-9 launch stream in twelve hours. It's go time.

>>15851202
I want to believe

who wants to place bets on what the excuse will be when it doesn't work.

>>15851202
Hes a fake and a fraud, just like plasma magnets.

>>15851208
Flight hardware is on the pad, bro. Slough and Greason have had 19 years to get a plasma magnet up to orbit but didn't.

>>15851202
>>15851220
But are you going to be able to accept it as not real if/when it doesn't work? It's not hard to come up with reasons why it didn't work this time.

>>15851207
but imagine if it does just work

>>15851225
But it wont and your a shill that needs the airlock for perpetuating this welfare warrior's lies

>>15851227
but what if

>>15851222
QI makes more sense than general relativity. Show me proof of dark matter first.

>The QI shitposting has begun

Staging
>>new thread
>>new thread
>>new thread
>>new thread

>>15850908
>Space Flight
spaceflight bros, what is our response?

>>15851237
The test article is on a Falcon 9 to launch in the morning. It's spaceflight related now.

>>15851229
PSEUDO. SCIENCE.
>>15851239
Start taking over the making of threads. Its clearly the one faggot still seething, just be faster. Ive unfortunately been busy these past few threads.

some of you are alright... dont go to south padre island on friday

>>15851241
>>15851239
Also didnt space the Previous from the Edition line.

>>15851242
What's happening at south padre island?

>>15851247
Intelsat 708 2.0, electric boogaloo

Honestly OP, how are you still butthurt over that? You typed it wrong and it was proven beyond doubt, just get over yourself and bake the threads correctly its not that hard
Subject:
/sfg/ - Spaceflight Edition
Text:
(Insert Name) Edition

Previous >>########
Image:
Actual Spaceflight Image
Stage Ar: Page 10
Simple format to follow, its laid out right there for you, but you will continue to morph the format from what it has been for months if not a year now just because you hold a grudge against the people correcting you when (You) messed up. Yes it was harsh but its a format that should be followed as hundreds of anons before you have done in a chain of succession.

>>15851251
Don't shit the thread again, come on, nobody cares. Bake yourself at the appropriate time and it'll be fine.

>>15851253
Thats what I'm planning on doing, was going to mention that no I dont want anyone to make another thread while this one or any others in the future are running. Last message on it, nobody, including me, should shit up the threads past this.

>>15851229
Then everything changes.
>>15851241
>Start taking over the making of threads. Its clearly the one faggot still seething, just be faster. Ive unfortunately been busy these past few threads.
What seething? They brought out the hot-stage load head support structure and a tile fell off Ship 25, so another destack seems probable. They have at least a week until IFT-2 as well.

>>15851251
Yeah, no, I'm not the same guy. The only guy seething here seems to be you.

>>15851251
OP here, I'm gonna kill myself

>>15851264
>>15851251
Nice samefagging.

>>15851261
You missed the slapfight we had a week or two ago dont worry about it.

>>15851265
Categorically, unequivocally, and embarrassingly false

>>15851251
wow. You went through all the effort of typing that up to berate OP and you still missed the hyphen before edition. I’m glad you have no real power.

Its not just "NET", SpaceX is clearly prepping for November 17th specifically. They're even scheduling the stream for November 17th. This *really* indicates they've talked with the FAA and the Fish fucks and that they know the license will be granted before that point.
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1723153469673283850?t=Vjo6wXX1K9iNBAkpzb7hPg&s=19

>>15851324
Still on the conclusion of the FAA's FWS consultation though.

>>15851265
OP, did you just accuse yourself of samefagging? Yeesh...

>>15851327
The cool thing about that is under NEPA, there's nothing about mitigating or preventing environmental damage. The only thing NEPA and by extension the FWS cares about, is fully documenting the environmental effects of something. Even if it turns out the water deluge kills 100 plovers a day, FWS can still just complete consultation and get a launch license.

>>15851240
inb4 the glowies delay or sabotage the launch/payload

>>15851342
QI was funded by DARPA, the thruster was validated by a lab in Virginia, and Rogue Space (the satellite company) is getting DoD contracts. There's no incentive for the feds to sabotage the flight test.

>>15851335
No license = No launch, we've talked about this before. TWO. MORE. WEEKS. The absolute state of Am*rican bureacracy.

Yall gon be real disappointed when you find out what the HLS production interior will look like.

Only on X

>>15851387
x ₓ..

QI drive will succeed

"Physicists" will be shitting pissing crying and screaming on xeeter that they wasted their whole lives chasing imaginary bullshit only to get mogged by a based schizo chad.

mega QI career ruining fail incoming

tape offgassing rocket bros, we're so back

>>15851398
Imagine when it succeeds and the first law of thermodynamics is proven to be violated.

quabtim infetarernce wjll fuk musk up

Impulse Space is flying for the first time on the next transporter mission.

https://x.com/GoToImpulse/status/1723082114269430202?s=20

>>15851412
Dont care honestly

>>15851412
public bathroom

>>15851412
And there's also a family photo
You can claim your waifu

>>15851263
Crazy to think that the stage 0 survived the previous launch attempt by pure chance. Had the initial engine failures been on the other side of the rocket, it would have collided with the tower.

>>15851417
Dibs on all of the girls

>>15851420
>>15851417
YWNGTS

>>15851424
are you calling me a wingnut? kids are flippin weird today

>>15851398
if QI is real I'll party until I need to be taken to an emergency room

>>15851427
Offboard tourist confirmed

>>15851416
you can hide likes on X now

>>15851233
A reminder than Mike can't even derive the QI "prediction" for dark matter/rotation curves. The paper he derived it in is demonstrably wrong and he accepts this. So how does he even know what the result is? Because he literally just copied the MOND equations. All he has done is invent some sophistry to repackage those decades old equations.

Also there was a new paper on wide binaries from a staunch MOND proponent this week, showing that MOND is rejected over simple Newtonian gravity.
https://arxiv.org/abs/2311.03436

>>15851430
It won't be a magic moment because even if by some miracle it moves when they turn it on, they need to prove that the mechanism of action is the one they claim; this part has been the downfall of all terrestrial experiments to date.

>>15851251
>Subject:
>/sfg/ - Spaceflight Edition
embarrassing

>>15851239
maybe we should clutter the entire thread complaining about it?

>>15850938
WALLED

>>15851436
The QI drive will be the Blish lock of the 21st century

>>15851561
That's not even possible, because the Blish lock didn't work at all. If this works, even if it works for the wrong reasons, it will be incredibly useful.

We just keep winning, schizobros

>>15851001
Is that Clear card for Koikatsu?

>>15851148
>optimized to be as light as possible.
sorry you seem to be in the wrong place. reddit/nasa is down the hall and to the left, this is SpaceX country, optimisation is cost autism here, not mass autism

>>15851324
biden is going to be eating a tub of icecream and laughing his ass off on friday isnt he

>>15851398
Is it even on Transport 9? I can't find anything from Ivo or Rogue Space in the manifests that have been posted.

>>15851412
If I had to guess, Impulse is going to be one lf the most successful companies doing spacetugs
Kind of doubt SpaceX is going to go into it substantially, easier to just buy from impulse
A bit like one of the Tesla co-founders (jb straubel) starting a battery recycling company (redwood materials) and now straubel becoming a board member at tesla
I think its about giving some space to one of the driving forces behind the original company but also a way for them to create something they own by themselves without elon but they can still work with them later
Musk has said multiple times they try to outsource as much as possible, but often there just isnt anything good enough out there (price, performance, supplier that listens to them)

>>15851251
Uh oh. Retard alert!

>>15851427
>flippin
Hold still while I gas you

>>15851666
sometimes jokes go over satan's head.

Impulse are cool, i wonder if they are working on anything starship sized.

Starship is pretty in-efficient for taking small payloads up to high energy orbits, you could imagine a re-usable tug that could come to pick up a payload in LEO, take on fuel from starship and then boost it up to higher orpits, GEO or even further.

>>15851711
I was the retard all along

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1723364221763637611

>>15851572
Kek

https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2023/11/transporter-9/

>>15851807
Imagine if they blow up the vehicle to spite Mueller

>>15850908
>>15851324
When are we leaving this planet bros? How much longer? I'm tired of all the delays

>>15851823
the moon will likely happen later this decade
mars? maybe early next decade if we're lucky.

>>15851823
We all will die on this rock.

>>15851840
Not me, I plan on dying outside of the atmosphere. I don't care how far out that ends up being.

Vulcan will launch on Xmas, only on X

>>15851823
one more weeks

>>15851846
>go to yemen
>tell houthis to strap you to a missile headed towards israel
>die in space

>>15851853
Do they travel up that high? I didn't think they were that powerful, or else more people would be raising a stink about Yemen being able to hurl shit across the ocean at us.

>>15851846
That was my plan but I was just being a doomer about the fat chance of that plan being feasible. Doesn't matter if it's being shot into the sun or dying on atmospheric entry, I just want my body to be annihilated.

>>15851857
afaik they can. there are different ranges for ballistic missiles. houthis have short and medium range ones, not intercontinental.

Why SpaceX Starship launch was delayed | Elon Musk and Lex Fridman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47dEWpef4Fw

>>15851871
kidnapped seal with headphones that is made to listen to sonic booms to see if it gets distressed

>>15850912
It was decided over a century ago that the Founding Fathers' experiment with Federal minimalism was null and void, so now it has power over every aspect of every American's life..
Any rights now remaining to the states, the Feds graciously allow them to have. For now.

>>15851875
>over a century ago
No, it was decided in the 1930s

How Elon Musk’s Starlink Is Bringing In Billions For SpaceX

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVgVzEVeP4Q

>>15851881
t. newfag

>>15851881
>being this new
do newspacecacas really?

>>15851871
lmao no way this pic is from SpaceX

>>15851913
it might be

>>15851923
It is https://twitter.com/TalulahRiley/status/320422298618302464

N-1 failed 4 times but that was 50 years ago.
Starship can probably make it to orbit this time.

>>15851928
n-1 ONLY GOT 4 LAUNCH ATTEMPTS ANON...

Good paper on Russias collapse as a space power
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0265964623000462

>>15851207
>I want to believe
I wonder, QI being real would be great in the short term for spaceflight, but in the long run it sounds like it would be very limiting on our ability to become masters of the universe

>>15851924
Is that Elon's ex wife?

Wooden asteroids

>>15851938
yes

All aboard the short MVAC S2!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-6AfMiCyQg
I missed Max-Qute ;_;

>>15851823
Even if you left, do you really think that your life would get better? If the purpose is being isoleted from modern day politics, you can just work on an oil rig, a merchant ship, or Antarctica station. Life in space will be wageslaving, ramped up to 200%.
I often think that the world peaked in the 20th century. Average Joe was able to build a house, provide for the family as a sole breadwinner. Now both husband and a wife have to wageslave for their rented flat. And that's assuming you get married, because doing so nowadays is pretty much a trap.

>>15851871
>FWS was worried about the infinitesimally low chance of the rocket hitting a shark
>FWS asks SpaceX to calculate the risk of a shark hitting it
>SpaceX asks for data to calculate this
>FWS refuses to give data because it might somehow spread to shark fin hunters
>SpaceX asks if they could get another department of the FWS to do the calculation since they have the data
>FWS says they don't trust the other department of the FWS
>Took them a bunch of time to resolve this shit
>Another agency asked about chance of rocket hitting a whale in international waters
what the actual fuck

>>15851944
Isnt that just a sea level engine?
And someone explain to me how having a shorter engine bell actually increases performance for LEO?

>>15851945
this is the wrong board, >>>/vt/ is for vtubers

>>15851952
costs less money to build

>>15851941
Wooden astronauts

>>15851949
When they say they're doing a report on environmental impact they mean it. No doubt buried somewhere in there is a study on what submerged stainless steel does to coral and plankton

Don't forget this is splashing down off Hawaii and they are paranoid as fuck about poisoning their fish

>>15851952
It isn't, and it doesn't. They don't need the engine bell to be as big on low payload weight missions like Transporter, so they cut down the nozzle to save money on niobium.

>>15851954
This, it's actually less performance as you'd expect.

>>15851958
Will the report be public? I am honestly curious because I want to shit on CSS with official government data that proves SpaceX doesn't dump all the methane they load during a WDR. It'll also probably give at least a couple interesting details on Starship and I REALLY want to shit on ESG hound by showing official government data the deluge runoff is safe.

>>15851066
good, maybe she will finally have the money for some face mocap tech, hate that weird jiggly uncanny valley vtuber movements

>>15851952
no, it's a vacuum engine with a shortened bell.
it doesn't increase performance, it does the opposite.
spacex only uses it when the performance of the full size bell is not necessary, because it is significantly cheaper. the second stage engine bell is made of an expensive niobium alloy because it's radiatively cooled and thus needs to remain stiff at extremely high temperatures

NASA should build a flagship engineering university in Cape Canaveral, NASA Tech or something like that

ive got an image for all you baiters in here who want free (You)s. its horrible but it will work

>>15851978
i know university of houston offers a bunch of space courses. not sure how good they are though.

>>15851979
Needs to look more NPC like to be more inline with the average sciencegolem.

lmao the official stream on X can still only go for 1 hour
IFT-2 is going to be such a shitshow; they really need to go back to youtube at least for launches of that importance. Transporter-9 really should have been a youtube stream as well.
>15851979
>15851986
cleanup on aisle 1, janny to aisle 1

>stream cuts off automatically after an hour so they have to start a new one
X streaming bros...

>>15851978
Generally the aerospace universities are in tech hubs. Caltech has JPL, John Hopkins has APL, the University of Colorado has JILA/LASP, the University of Texas has its own stuff in both Houston and San Antonio, I wouldn't be surprised if there's something in Washington I haven't heard of, simply because Boeing et al are there

>>15851999
Eat dick nigger.

>>15851978
NASA doesn't build anything

>>15851883
Mainly neutral coverage, but there's one FUD that went unchallenged near the end about the "unknown dangers" of chemicals burning up in the atmosphere from Starlink would pose threat.

This is nonsense. All of Starlink burning up in space would pose insignificant chemical issue because the chemicals that are on the Starlinks are also on meteors that regularly hit Earth and burn up in atmosphere in 100000x the abundance . So the FUD is unjustified.

>>15851024
>isnt this a little late?
Totally didn't even watch the video.

>>15851999
One nigger dick one mouth.

>>15851999
checked

>>15852000
Users set their time when streaming afaik. 1h is default but there are longer that are allowed.

>>15851999
Enjoy it faggot.

>>15850919
>Theyve been hemorrhaging ad revenue
Found the reddit fag.
Over 90% of the fags that paid for ads on twitter came crawling back. Only the LGBQTFUCKOFF twats are refusing to go back.... just like you need to go back asshat.

>>15852012
>>15852010
>>15852002
these are the flerfers messages not the elon posters.

>>15852021
my bet is it's the itsovertranny frogposter

>>15852019
Its not just ads, but also they've been selling data licenses to other companies, along with new premium users + reduction in employee cost + reduction in cost of servers = break even is probably right around the corner.

>>15851986
no, it needs to look like musk

>>15851979
where is xAI? X?

>>15852023
I like posting frogs and btfoing nubabies, not posting shit pics anon. Troons ruin spaceflight too, dont group me with xem.

jannies finally earning their pay

>>15852028
>break even is probably right around the corner
They claimed back in August that breakeven for them was "right around the corner" so I wouldn't be surprised if they are already there.

>>15852037
jannies ACTUALLY did something??? impossible

>>15851945
Clear really enjoys watching those small sats deploy.

>>15852028
yeah, and improving Grok is going to get so many users paying for premium+
might even do that myself if it actually works well (no censorship + real time might be pretty useful)

>>15852043
Real time AI data is interesting one. Search engines cant do that, I'd probably be quite useful for up to date info

>>15851945
she's so much more intelligent and beautiful than the average sfg poster

So close to 100 launches. Should the Rocket Lab stuff being shot out of New Zealand count under US?

>>15851979
Can you make a based elon pepe? shadilay my nimble navigator

>>15852051
If Europe can count being launched from South America as European launch, why not RocketLabs from New Zealand

>>15852019
>Ate the bait whole

>>15852051
Hobbitlab builds their engines in California and lists on the NYSE. The NZ company is a subsidiary.

On the Payload Pathfinder podcast the Firefly CEO said that MLV will eventually be reusable, but the first couple launches will be expendable just to speed up the process and get space station resupply missions going as early as 2025 in lieu of Antares which was retired

https://pod.payloadspace.com/episodes/66

That makes the following medium/heavy lift rockets in service or in development
>MLV
>Neutron
>Falcon
>Laguna
>Terran R
>Unnamed medium/heavy ABL rocket
>New Glenn

>>15851913
>>15851923
>>15851924
This picture is old as fuck you god damn newfags. Shit has been a reaction image since the early days of /b/.

>>15852057
This entire general has a problem with taking the bait, as expected of nuspacepeepees.

>>15852062
They all chasing Falcon 9 which is now ~10 years old

Meanwhile SpaceX is moving away from Falcon 9

Came across this startup small launch company called iRocket, they are building a reusable small launch rocket (NGMI)

And it will have a reusable second stage

https://irocketusa.com/shockwave/

>>15852046
both are very important, the arbitrary censorship makes chatgpt much less useful because it degrades everything arbitrarily
I think the other LLM providers have to decrease or drop the censorship at some point or get simply outcompeted

>>15852065
not responding from time to time results in actual retards staying here with those opinions
poes law and all that
first its people pretending to be retarded, then actual retards come in and think they are in good company and now after a while the retards are the majority

>>15852074
The real threat to (((AI safety))) is someone releasing a trained language model as open source like how Stable Diffusion acts as a hard floor under AI image generator performance even for nono topics.

>>15852064
source?

>>15852074
>I think the other LLM providers have to decrease or drop the censorship at some point or get simply outcompeted
The hope is regulators will force censorship

>>15852073
Isn't iRocket a chinese company?

Flight Termination System Explosives Installed on Starship and Booster | SpaceX Boca Chica

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDKoHpDWNXU

>>15852083
You are thinking of iSpace, this one is a US company

>>15852083
Their real name is a set of chicken scratches pronounced like a dialup modem negotiating a connection, because they're Chinese. The irocket, landspace, etc. names are just for English language press releases.

>>15852083
https://x.com/iRocketUSA/status/1701662370714562898

Founded by Asad Malik.

>>15852082
I guess, but even with twitter they couldn't do it outright, they had to do it in secret while bullshitting the public
I don't think they can really do it, the first amendment helps a lot

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1723425755739082961

>>15851928
>N-1 failed 4 times but that was r*ssians
ftfy

>>15852080
kys newfag

>>15852099
didn't think so, lmao

The Impulse Space team

>>15852091
AI is only vulnerable to regulation as long as it is SaaS. A published piece of software capable of generating political or religious speech would be impossible to censor based on how poorly the courts view prior restraint of protected speech.

>>15852040
They are constantly censoring the board and are working overtime to do so.

>>15852095
do you think elon musk plays up china to drum up more space funding in the US, or is it just real recognizing real?

>>15852104
both

>>15852110
>>15852104
but probably more the latter
SpaceX won't really need funding in the future, they just need the government to get out of the way and recognizing China as the growing space power and adversary it is, might make politicians more eager to remove retarded bureucracy

>>15852095
BASED

>>15852101
nigga in the middle does not want to be there at all

>>15852104
the US government is doing just fine on its own stoking fears about China
but I do wonder how many people in the US know that China has a space station or a mars rover or a huge domestic rocket program. Probably not many.

>>15852104
There's some real recognition. Compare China from 90s, or even early 2000s to today, its absolutely a different world.

The rapid progress China achieves is the envy of anyone who is smart.

>>15852056
Launching from French Guiana is the equivalent of lauching from Hawaii

>>15852117
And to add to that, for the retards who don't understand, its not just the past performance over the last few decades, but also the future rate of change that is what may allow China to outcompete US in a decade or so

>>15852118
Thats true. I'd forgotten that France has so many of these old colonial areas

>>15852064
>>15852099
I know it's old you retard, that's why it's surprising that's if from SpaceX
The twitter link is 10 years old, comes from Elon's ex-wife and it matches his description exactly, that's much better evidence than your shitty memory

>>15851949
This is Catch-22 or Hitchhiker's Guide degrees of retarded bureaucratic absurdity, in the real world.
Delete the FWS. Whoever was responsible for this runaround with the sharks, publically hang them.

>>15852087
you are thinking of i-Space, ispace is a Japanese company

>>15850912
>be me
>fed made apogee motor
>my only job is computer assisted re-orientation
>more specifically, my only job is achieving one specific motion
>same mass never changes without me
>same judgment every time

Someone should call their company AAASpace, so it's listed first when you're looking for a space launch/satellite company in the phone book.

>>15852129
who are you quoting?

>>15852073
>>15852062
>>15852087
So funny to see these knock off companies copying what SpaceX was doing a decade ago without realising why SpaceX decided to pursue Starship instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWFFiubtC3c

SpaceX kino from Kurzegast-lite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hytsUCOltXw

>>15852135
Only Stoke is going for fully reusable.
>>15852136
That german channel is total earther cancer, not sure about whatever this one is.

>>15852136
Skipped through it

>strong bipoc woman doing plant science
>above ground domes and tin can habs
>kilopower
>wind turbines

Yeah no thanks

>>15852052
bing is extremely gay, but it did manage to make a pepe

>>15851076
only the government does that

>>15852136
>posted 2 hours ago
>uses 2019 starship renders
huh?

>>15851949
>>15851871
Elon needs to make comedy show about it and post it

>>15852143
>>15852052

>>15851949
And people still think we're getting a licence in less than a week.

>>15852159
Yes, Friday is less than a week from now

>>15852158
>>15852143
>>15852163
separate anon, is not >>15851979

>>15852159
>rocket by bezos

>>15852163
Ser have you finished counting the beetle density for the surrounding 20km2 of the launch sote? What about the wave propagation simulation model for how the splashdown impact will affect dolphin sonar?

>>15852158
Okay, I take back everything I said about the shittle orbiter. Next to this blunt-nosed brick, it's a thing of beauty and aerodynamic grace.

>>15852165
>>15852170
samefag

>>15852012
this is impressive

>>15852145
That depends entirely on if your job involves consumer holiday purchases. Everything from grocery stores and pharmacies to car sales and airline tickets is in full sprint mode starting the third week in November but anything that can be pushed until January probably will be.

>>15852174
Very accurate shuttle, nice.

Qualcomm ends partnership for connecting Android phones to Iridium satellites,
---
https://spacenews.com/qualcomm-ends-partnership-for-connecting-android-phones-to-iridium-satellites/
> TAMPA, Fla. — Semiconductor giant Qualcomm is scrapping plans to provide the technology Android smartphones would need to directly connect to Iridium’s satellites when they can’t reach a cell tower.
> Despite successfully developing and demonstrating a chip enabling everyday phones to connect with satellites for SOS, texts, and other low-bandwidth messaging services, Iridium announced Nov. 9 that no smartphone makers have included Qualcomm’s enabling technology in their devices.
> Price was likely a contributing factor, according to William Blair analyst Louie DiPalma.
> “Qualcomm conveyed to us that even though the Iridium service was functional and available for smartphone manufacturers to incorporate in their phones, the smartphone manufacturers did not have a ‘line of sight on the monetization models’,” he said in a note to investors.
> “This implies that smartphone manufacturers were concerned about the economics and were objecting to the price Qualcomm was charging.”
> SpaceX and other companies, including startups Lynk Global and AST SpaceMobile, are developing satellites that would connect to smartphones already in circulation via partnerships with mobile operators and the standards they use.

Avanti in LEO talks to become a multi-orbit connectivity provider,
---
https://spacenews.com/avanti-in-leo-talks-to-become-a-multi-orbit-connectivity-provider/
> TAMPA, Fla. — Avanti Communications is in talks to procure capacity from a low Earth orbit (LEO) operator to transform into a provider of multi-orbit broadband services, the British regional geostationary satellite operator announced Nov. 10.
> “Our new global positioning means we will have the ability to provide coverage worldwide,” Whitehill said, “we will be led by the needs of our customers.”
> Avanti has a fleet of five geostationary satellites, giving it Ka-band broadband coverage across Europe, the Middle East, and Africa.
> Whitehill said Avanti aims to bring multi-orbit services into use next year, suggesting SpaceX’s Starlink or OneWeb is the LEO operator as other broadband constellations in development are years away from global commercial service.

Transportation Department official suggests industry help pay for FAA commercial space office
---
https://spacenews.com/transportation-department-official-suggests-industry-help-pay-for-faa-commercial-space-office/
> WASHINGTON — A top Department of Transportation official suggested the launch industry should help pay for additional resources for the Federal Aviation Administration’s commercial space office.
> Speaking at a virtual meeting of the FAA’s Commercial Space Transportation Advisory Committee (COMSTAC) Nov. 8, Polly Trottenberg, deputy secretary of transportation, all but rejected calls from industry to sharply increase the budget of the FAA’s Office of Commercial Space Transportation, or AST, to deal with growing levels of launch activity.
> Asked about increasing AST’s budget, Trottenberg said there were competing priorities elsewhere in the FAA, noting that the aviation did not receive as much support in last year’s Bipartisan Infrastructure Law as other modes of transportation. “I don’t think we made the commensurate investments on the aviation side,” she said, including in “the bread-and-butter systems of the FAA.”
> She proposed that it may be time for industry to contribute some portion of additional revenues needed for enhancing AST. “We’re an agency that has the ability to generate revenue and I think that’s going to be a question for this industry,” she said, adding that she was offering her own opinion and not that of the department itself.

>>15852188
Kill them all johnny

>>15852188
>>15852185
>>15852181
*schlop* *schlop* *schlop* *schlop*

SCIENCE NIGGERS TONGUY MY ANUS

N

kek malding shitskin is angry that he got banned

>FWS was worried about a rocket hitting a shark
>>FWS was worried about the infinitesimally low chance of the rocket hitting a shark
>FWS asks SpaceX to calculate the risk of a shark hitting it
>SpaceX asks for data to calculate this
>FWS refuses to give data because it might somehow spread to shark fin hunters
>SpaceX asks if they could get another department of the FWS to do the calculation since they have the data
>FWS says they don't trust the other department of the FWS
>Took them a bunch of time to resolve this shit
>Another agency asked about chance of rocket hitting a whale
what the fuck

https://x.com/DBegim483/status/1723411206780694787?s=20

sharks lol

>>15852217
How is this even related to the water deluge? That was the main reason why FWS had to do the review.

How the fuck would SpaceX know if the sharks will be there when starship falls down.

>>15852223
they should survey the entire launch corridor

>>15852224
>HOLD because of sharks in the zone

if people enter the exclusion zone and cause a hold on a launch, does spacex have any legal actions they can take against those people?

FWS are gay retarded faggots, but in real life

Hey niggers

>>15852228
They would be eaten by sharks

>>15852228
crash superheavy into them

>>15852228
Give them a ride

>>15852062
>second stage reusability on MLV
Why?
Also, Laguna (which is still a small launcher) is absolutely not happening, and at this rate RS2 probably isn't either.

>>15852023
transformers all do the "we're so back!!!!!!" maniacally deranged, aggressive "optimism"-posting . Idk why they behave like this so consistently but they do. That lk99 bullshit was full of them.

>>15852234
He need some milk

>>15852228
Bombing with FPV drone.

Good night goys

My last goodbye

For real now

Squeeze in one more

>>15851239
At some point he is gonna grow tired of being online 24/7 just so he can bake a thread lol.

Man we used to have such comfy threads back in the day. Now we have frogcel spammers, seething ban evading third worlders posting scat and all sorts of trash shitting it up.

And this is why you shouldn't mention /sfg/ to /pol/troons.

>>15852163
>EELS GOD
>MOLES, MAN
I feel that, as a sushi enthusiast and gardener

>>15851251
OP is severely autistic please understand

is this the flat earth schizo? it reads like the flat earth schizo. I wonder what set him off this bad.

>>15852266
A remider that collagefag is the reason there are /pol/tards here at all. It can never be forgiven (even if he is employed by spacex now).

>>15852264
I dont spam my frogs, I post only occasionally. That fake frogkek from earlier who posted a bunch of gibberish doesnt even post actual pepes.

We need a solution to the FWS question

>>15852276
Whoever asks for forgiveness is collagefag himself or has not been around the worst of his cancer

Jesus Christ

>>15852278
It already has one its called the day of the airlock

>>15852280
AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH FUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCK

>>15852280
NO LICENSE KEEEEEEEEEEEEEK

>>15852277
stupid frogposter

>>15852280
>stack
>destack
>stack
>destack
>stack
>destack
>stack
>destack
>stack
>destack
>stack
>destack

>>15852287
you abandoned /sfg/ to it's fate, for a long time now this general has been a frog general. There is no going back.

>>15852280
I told you niggers to put your dicks back in your pants until we got a licence

>>15852290
that's not true, posting smug fairies does very little to dissuade frogposters because they are simply too stupid to understand that they are being mocked

>>15852280
It's right there in the OP. Why is anyone surprised?

they got the alarms and "attention starbase, the orbital pad is now clearing, please exit the orbital pad, now" on
is this normal for attaching just a qd arm?

>>15852300
They're destacking it.

>>15852297
>xhe actually thinks we care
aint no way bruh

>IMG_2945

>00c1701850d8ef35af73143729dabde588b185bf352247aa7a1756b550d4c579.jpg

Kill yourself frogcel spammer

>>15852311
that's 3 different people retard

>>15852300
Musk has finally had enough

>>15852313
anon...

>>15852317
What?

>>15852317
retard, it is, i didnt post the first or second one but i did post the third one and they certainly dont look like posts made by the same person

>>15852317
reply to all the pepes itt we will show u ss of it not being samefagging

/space frog general/

What a terrible night to be in a spaceflight thread

>>15852326
80% chance you're clearposter

https://twitter.com/whoisheartbreak/status/1723471183415480376

Sborbitel

>>15852317

>>15852331
3 more launches to go...

somebody burped next to the rovercam

Toorsm

>>15852326
>>15852311
Where do you think you are?

nuclear tourism

wtf I missed another rtls f9

>>15852325
it's /spacefrog general/ you utter retard. You are a fucking newfag who is trying to gaslight everyone into thinking that it's not, but apart from a few times, it has consistently been done the right way for at least a year: you are a faggot who cannot admit when he's wrong, and therefore copes by posting shit like this over and over again. You need to go back.

>>15852352
lmao

Remember the simpler times of shooping graffiti on ring sections instead of this gay sperg shit

>>15852358
yeah, the vtuber shit has to go, i agree

>>15852228
they could theoretically sue, but they have to weigh the odds of being able to recover damages from poorfags, and the image of a powerful company bullying the little guy.

>>15852359
This is the exact kind of gay sperg shit I'm talking about. Fucking hang yourself.

>>15852358
you do know a frogposter made this right?

>>15852361
you should direct it at the correct poster, here, i'll help you
>>15851945

>>15851979
doesn't look anything like thunderf00t

>>15852364
why did you add pedo shit to it? this is not the original

>>15852359
>false flagging the frogs
Desperate KEK
>>15852361
Everyone has a right to post stuff as long as its on topic or about things in the general. That includes frogs, and that includes (You) even if we may not like it.
>>15852370
I didnt make this either, do you expect me, a frogposter, to make original edits?

>>15852374
i expect you to not be a disgusting weebfaggot and retcon /sfg/ history

>>15852375
don't be a lazy nigger, anon. Go and fetch the original if you think that one is wrong.

lift

>>15852375
>disgusting weebfaggot
It's like you fags forget where you are

>>15852377
i would but the archive is dead and i dont have all verions saved

>>15852375
Ok let's check out some pre /sfg/ history

>>15852378
no launch this year, screencap this post

>>15852379
at /sci/, not /a/, /jp/ or /vt/
behind your back everyone mocks you, anthropomorphizing rockets, even the most deranged people think you are crazy

>>15852378
Starship lowered to half-mast for veterans day.

>>15852384
ok

>>15852375
>false flagger doesnt have the reading comprehension to understand my original message
you should go back to your 10th grade reading class nubaby. i clearly said there i dont like clear. also not retconning /sfg/ history, the original edit just got changed and this is the one i picked up after clearing my image folder

>>15852388
thank you

>>15852387
>clearing my image folder
i shiggy fucking diggy
digital hoarding is superior
every image i ever saved is still here on my nas, unsorted of course

>destacking
>no loicence
>government shutdown on the 17th
>that will go for a week or two
>it's now pre christmas
>government never does anything during pre christmas until at least the week after new years

It's ogre