/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15848553
FIRST FOR FUCK BIDEN COCKSUCKERS!!!

SPACEX WON!!! YOU LOSE!!!

Buy an ad

We are going
The future of rocketry for the next 100 years

>>15848560
It's free

>>15848553
disastrous picture. This barely resembles a sfg thread

>>15848563
No, jannies do it for free though kek.

>>15848564
cope

>>15848553
I'm not impressed, OP.

>>15848553
Another day not leaving this ball earth. Golem bros..

>>15848564
I sperged out last time but this time I'm neutral. If you want to split threads idc, atleast last two threads were good, still writing spaceflight wrong but its not as horrendous since theres actual spaceflight.

>>15848569
Is the word sphere too complicated?

>>15848571
goddamn you're thick

>>15848571
I would still say this is 'advertising or begging' though.

Wait a minute... if we're all space fans then why are we speaking a filthy earther language like English? Shouldn't we speak in Belter?

>>15848572
Just laugh it up with this guy, he's an /sfg/ regular at this point. Might as well just talk to him at this point since hes clearly not going away.

>>15848577
Belters are self-sabotaging fags and the literal worst scum of the series.

>>15848563
Buy an ad

>>15848577
That language hasnt been invented doe, also that would probably just be an accent of English if anything

Just to recap for the last few days

>Falcon Heavy launch for Air Force's mini space shuttle
>SpaceX bringing in ~$9B rev this year, $15B next year ($10B is Starlink alone)
>STARSHIP LICENSE!!!
>80TH launch this year with 18th booster landing
>Won again Biden admin's refugee hiring lawsuit

>>15848581
What fucking series?? Oh no you have to go back >>>/lit/sffg

>>15848577
We need a better language for the Solar System Colonies .
Like :

ⰥⰽⰆⰌⰏⰟⱏⱂⰿⱅⰫⱛⰖⱆ (i need Mars-prostitutes)

>>15848584
One of these things is not like the other

>WAAAH I WANT THE LICENSE NOW WAAAAH
FWSGODS SAID NO GET IN LINE STARSHIPCACAS

>>15848585
I'm not the guy who brought up "belter" as a notional language.

>>15848594
martian freedom fighters on their way to the FAA

>>15848579
He is not a regular because the flat earth truth is heavily censored on this board, especially in this thread which is filled with golems like you.

Lunaria and Area for off world country names? Area would also probably be the sole ruler of Mars.

>>15848586
>i need Mars-prostitutes
No need for the distinction. All Martians are already whores.

License just flew over my house

>>15848604
Freak porn addict so glad I will NEVER see the likes of you in space.

We are not back

>>15848606
FTS installation just flew over mine too?!

They are done installing the FTS

https://twitter.com/VickiCocks15/status/1722694950280741325

>>15848553
>not FAA edition

>>15848564
not nearly as bad as the thread you baked

How far will Starship go?
https://strawpoll.com/eJnvvwVbGnv

How many Super Heavy engines fail?
https://strawpoll.com/jVyG8mxekn7

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1wcilQ58hI

At this point it's safe to say that there will be no license today

>>15848553
Imagine being this butthurt.

>>15848630
>How far will Starship go?
Either to first stage MECO or reentry.
>How many Super Heavy engines fail?
5-6

Fts has been installed on s25 and b9 very good signs.

https://twitter.com/BDAWG_2017/status/1722699131330719812

X-37 on Falcon Heavy.
Holy fuck, US declared Space Wars on China.
26t of experiments to GTO, the most ever delivered to that orbit

>>15848637
Im gonna say all of them fail because it blows up

I dont know why people are saying 5 or 6 engines will fail ... The engines from ITF-1 were the first batch of the Raptor 2's , we are already in the 300 something batch .

ITF-2 has engines with the serial number 120-150s , so those on the middle .

1 or max 2 engines will fail during the whole flisght

>>15848653
cope

>>15848653
The engine bay was also on fire during IFT-1, which probably took out a few engines in flight.

official from reuters

>they do not have the license yet
https://twitter.com/joroulette/status/1722698355610988762

>>15848553
atrocious thread once again

I want to hunt Martian blacktail deer in a subterranean wilderness dome with a drilling gun by 2500.

>>15848553
Great thread OP!

>>15848680
Based tincan lander

>>15848680
The Can can-do!

>>15848653
the engine failure rate has consistently been 25% for years, why exactly should that change?

>>15848687
You are retarded

>>15848685
This reminds me of the smell of old books. Very pleasant.

>>15848687
Muskrats drown at this fact.

>>15848653
They already failed during static fire.

Need that fockin' loicense

> Elon Musk: War, AI, Aliens, Politics, Physics, Video Games, and Humanity | Lex Fridman Podcast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN3KPFbWCy8

new fridman podcast with musk

>>15848690
I have a whole collection of such art. I love them.

>>15848687
>the engine failure rate has consistently been 25% for years

Except it hasn't.

>>15848594
What's /sfg/'s favorite track? For me? It's You Never Give Me Your Money (Astra).

>>15848696
I am the only one who thinks they talk about the same topics over and over again ?

>AI
"uuhhh AGI will kill us , doom , Safety, we need freedom "
>politics
"the left is soo bad , but also the right is quite bad ... polarization bad ... blah blah blah "
>Video Games
"haha i play a lot Elder ring , wanna see my setup ? im a wizzard uohh "
>Humanity
"we need to keep the light of consciousness on , population collapse blah blah "
>SpaceX
"Starship is the key to expand the light of consciusness across the solar system. We have been ready to fly for months . FAA is bad "

>>15848687
incorrect

>>15848590
literally me right now

>>15848621
F-A-Ain't happening edition

>>15848674
Why not go to an O'Neill cylinder built for hunters?

>>15848298
They balanced it more for Shuttles, which more people understandably wanted to build.

>>15848705
Elon's Silver Hammer

>>15848718
Based.

t. gay

>>15848696
>>15848706
If you listen to famous person a lot, then you get all their talking points. So it's not much more than just a casual chat at this point for regulars.

>>15848722
without the support of an oppressive central government you'll be hunted like rats :^)

>>15848722
Bleed out

>>15848725
This already happens in the middle east and asia

>>15848729
based

>>15848724
Yeah Musk is so generic it's unbelievable.

To whom should Elon Musk make political donations to?

>>15848725
Or you can just mind your own business, and enjoy spaceflight.
>>15848727
I don't think so.

>>15848734
The FAA Alliance of Gays

>>15848697
> Titan as it should be; blue sky, cirrus clouds and stars visible in the day
based

>>15848744
Isn't Titan a foggy yellow world with dense clouds

>>15848744
I don't think that was Titan.

>>15848752
I'm not sure how foggy it would actually be. From the image I've seen the visibility has to be at least 10 kilometers.

JUST ABOUT MCFUCKING HAD IT

HAND OVER THE LICENCE AND NO ONE GETS HURT.

Please watch this video https://youtu.be/AXCbcPJ73jE?si=kQ8U5EhouoqPt_p-

>>15848767
>sorry m8, your tv loicense is at least two weeks out

>>15848769
you need a better pitch

>>15848767
>>15848199

>>15848298
I've just been using them as the first stage engine for my TSTO double spaceplane (Boeing style shuttle proposal) with seven (7!!) (VII) terriers as the second stage engines)
because I'm using the S3 fatso tanks it is only stable at AoA below ~40 degrees, if you try to go side-on to the airstream you lose control authority and it becomes exceedingly stable in a flat spin and you plummet from space to the ground
it is VERY funny when this happens
glad that Kerbin is so fucking small that I get away with this garbage

I'll go into some of the tricks of the trade in a moment

>>15848553
>>15848630
>>15848793
When are we leaving this planet bros? How much longer? I'm tired of all the delays

>>15848717
they also just didn't realize that the majority of large SRBs have thrust vectoring

no license?

>>15848813
no , its over

>>15848813
License denied. SpaceX will be dissolved in two weeks.

>>15848824
i heard that maybe even next week. No more Mars nor the moon. its trully over

>>15848813
we'll know in the next hour probably
trust the plan

given the current absolute state of the Raptor engine I don't think it's the licenses slowing them down.

berger has had ONE post today and its an obituary

>>15848853
On a scale of one to ten, how disappointed are you going to be when the engines aren't a serious problem in IFT-2?

>>15848813
oi!

>>15848577
Belter "language" is just pidgin and it can only discuss dreary industrial topics.

>>15848853
true. those things are fucked up. its like the cybertruck all voer again, they will need a miracle to undig their own grave here.

>>15848857
I hope they engines work. Literally the only thing keeping SS from Space

>>15848853
>>15848865
Samefag

>>15848875
>Everyone that's critical of Raptor is a samefagger

>>15848736
mentally ill crewmates affect me directly and get hit with a table leg in the brain stem if they start acting in ways that put myself and the mission in jeopardy.

>>15848879
You are a dumbass
>>15848883
More samefag

>>15848887
Logical fallacy

I've always said, IFT1 obviously happened so that SpaceX could get more money ahead of the funding round. Raptor development is in deep trouble. They launched with no chance of sucess and knew it would make the pad inoperable becuase self destructiong the pad and then having an excuse was better than the world knowing the horrible state of the raptor.

>>15848903
can't tell if you're false flagging at this point

a NOTMAR for Hawaii just dropped
15th with alternatives from 16th to 20th

>>15848903
They did it because Elon is stupid poopy retard fuckhead fascist, and that's the bottom line

>>15848912
sorry , its not new . Its from yesterday . My bad

>>15848912
november 9th today
9+14=20
Two weeks..

>>15848913
stop trolling
>>15848907
no.

>>15848731
>>15848731
>based

>>15848718
jfc is every week pride week?
and every month is pride month? ffs

how many fucking times a year do they have to pronounce its another "pride week" or "Pride month"?

>>15848926
based zone

>>15848722
can't take mentally ill people into mars for quite a while or chronically sick people in general

>>15848607
>muh porn addiction schizo already going ballistic over a joke again
this is gonna be a good thread.

>>15848922
Shut the FUCK up faggot

>>15848722
you will never go to space as being gay is generally associated with so many different types of mental illness, they wouldn't even have to do a checkup on you, you walking into nasa all neurotic would give them instant red flags and they'd turn you away instantly. you wouldn't even get into the airforce likely.

>>15849000
Spit in my mouth.

Kemp and London offered to take Astra private and cancelled their earnings call

>>15849009
>astra tattoo
unfortunate

>>15849005
Remove your cock before flight tranny

>>15848736
>"mind your own business"
>mention that you like sucking dicks and getting fucked in the ass in a spaceflight thread
How about you hang yourself, you degenerate filth?

>>12190071
Ohhh interesting. How hard would it be to maintain molten nickel coolant on a ship? That seems a bit risky to me idk

>>15848869
>Literally the only thing keeping SS from Space
Deepstate's desire for censorship authority over Twitter is the only thing keeping SS from Space

>>15849056
Dear Oort Cloud Anon, I hope this message in 2026 finds you well. Truth is.. there may be no supplies coming your way.

>>15848696
>we effectively need a fish license to launch a rocket

>>15848793
the million drogue parachutes along the back edge of the craft are for recovery in case I accidentally fall into this flat spin situation
here you can see the secondary command pod to allow me to just command SAS prograde and have the autopilot steer an extremely consistent 10 or 15 degrees AoA (I have forgotten the exact number)

>>15848696
>the fucking comment section full of jeet bots shilling their shitcoin

Jesus christ I hate this shit. Xeeter could swipe jewtubes business if they start hosting videos and blacklisting credit cards, people are done with this bot shit. Easy enough to fund 8$ a month bots but not so much if they blacklist cards, no one is going to be able to constantly spin up that many credit cards.

>>15849009
>In a filing with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission Nov. 9, the company said it received a non-binding offer from Chris Kemp and Adam London, chief executive and chief technology officer respectively of Astra, to take the company private at $1.50 per share.
>non-binding offer
>Kemp and London did not disclose their sources of financing for their proposal but said they “anticipate raising $60–65 million of capital.”
Where the hell are they going to get $60M? Why not spend that $60M on the business instead of buyouts? Whole thing smells.

>>15849122
Wish I had opened some short positions on these homos when I saw them paint BLM on their rocket. Would have been fucking rich.

>>15849122
"Funding Secured"

>>15849122
because they realized no rocket company can survive being public
even if you successfully launch the share price goes down

>>15849129
that's not the problem... who the fuck is giving them $60M so they can spend it buying out shareholders?

>>15849129
They can, but sure as hell not in 2022 or 2023. The Federal Reserve's hiked interest rates a ton in order to clean up that COVID inflation.

Higher interest rates => tougher competition for investment dollars (public or private). No dithering for years in development hell. You need to be getting cash now now now.

https://orbitalindex.com/archive/2023-11-08-Issue-243/#dragonfly-update

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7kR2PvNURM
>Tunnel Visions: Dragonfly Team Tests Rotorcraft Designs in Unique NASA Facilities

>>15849155
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20220017807/downloads/2023_Scitech_Dragonfly_v3.pptx.pdf

>>15849157
And it's going to do everything in its power to avoid the actual goddamn lakes of methane which are literally the most interesting thing going on there. Seriously, fuck the bitch-ass mission planners at NASA.

>>15849157
Designing Dragonfly, NASA’s Titan explorer (the article is a year old)
---
https://aerospaceamerica.aiaa.org/features/designing-dragonfly-nasas-titan-explorer/
> A planetary lander that can fly to new sampling sites will be able to do far more surface science than a slow, trundling rover. Easy flight in the super-dense atmosphere and ultra-low gravity of Saturn’s cryogenic moon, Titan, makes it the perfect celestial body on which to test the idea. Paul Marks spoke to the team behind NASA’s Dragonfly.
> In 2034, high above Saturn’s largest moon, the handiwork performed years earlier by engineers at a laboratory in Maryland will snap into action, if all goes as planned. After a six-and-a-half-year cruise through deep space, punctuated by a gravity assist from Venus, a NASA-funded probe will plunge into the thick orange haze of Titan’s upper atmosphere, a heat shield protecting the planetary explorer ensconced in its aeroshell from the incandescence of atmospheric entry.
> This explorer, Dragonfly, will be unique in the annals of space exploration. An octocopter roughly the size of a Mini Cooper, it will fly out of the aeroshell and descend to its nominal flight altitude of 400 meters, where it will train lidar and high-resolution cameras on the terrain below to seek a safe, solid landing spot.

>>15849158
maybe they are afraid a lake would disable the drone

>>15849160
> Why so long? Titan’s smog-laden atmosphere extends up to an altitude of over 1,200 kilometers, or 10 times higher than the atmosphere of Mars. At the surface, its density is 4.3 times that of Earth’s, and its atmospheric pressure is 1.4 times higher. And with only one-seventh of Earth’s gravity gently tugging the spacecraft down, the consequence is a very slow descent indeed.
> Once safely on the surface, Dragonfly can begin what its designers hope will be more than three years of science operations at dozens of sites. After landing, the drone will sample the surface material beneath it, analyze its chemistry and beam its data to Earth. But unlike wheeled rovers, it can then start its rotors again and fly off to some very different, and very distant, geological locations — using its cameras to navigate optically, informed by mapping data gleaned from flybys of NASA’s Cassini probe — and do another batch of surface science.

>>15849162
Its lifetime mission planning distance is like 12 miles. Seriously, what the fuck?

>>15849163
you build one thats better then.

>>15849167
Just send ten of the one they're making now instead of one.

>>15849168
opportunity and curiosity proved that there is no economies of scale with rovers.

>>15849169
At this point why don't they just send dozens of quadcopters or first person drones? The technology is already there but NASA is forever in the past.

>>15849172
Money is fake, just say you're taking it from Ukraine and write the check.

I bet I could build a boat rover that you could dump in the lakes and cruise around forever on an RTG in my fucking garage. I hate these niggers SO MUCH.

Skyroot Aerospace raises ₹225 crore funding
---
https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/telangana/skyroot-aerospace-raises-225-crore-funding/article67475715.ece
> India’s leading private space-tech company, Skyroot Aerospace has raised an additional US$ 27.5 million, equivalent to ₹225 crore, in a pre-Series C funding round led by Temasek, a global investment company headquartered in Singapore on Monday.
> Skyroot Aerospace, founded in 2018, successfully launched India’s and South Asia’s first, and till date the only, privately developed rocket on November 2022, marking the Indian private space sector’s entry into the space launch market. The company offers on-demand, cost-effective, reliable and regular space launch services to the fast-expanding global small and medium-sized satellite market, with satellite operators who look to deploy single or constellations of satellites across orbits as its customers.
> It was the first startup to sign a memorandum of understanding (MoU) with the Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO) which grants access to cutting-edge facilities and unparalleled expertise. With its Vikram series of rockets, specially designed to deploy small and medium-sized satellites into space efficiently and reliably, Skyroot is poised to transform the space launch capabilities of the country, according to the release.

>>15849179
Russia can build an automatic-loitering first person camera drone that travels for miles and has signal switching to evade jammers for just $35,000. NASA is a welfare program, not a serious science or engineering establishment.

>>15849009
Astra founders offer to take company private
---
https://spacenews.com/astra-founders-offer-to-take-company-private/
> CEDAR PARK, Texas — Two founders of Astra Space have offered to take the launch vehicle and spacecraft propulsion company private for nearly $30 million.
> In a filing with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission Nov. 9, the company said it received a non-binding offer from Chris Kemp and Adam London, chief executive and chief technology officer respectively of Astra, to take the company private at $1.50 per share. That would be more than double the $0.74 share price the company had at the close of trading Nov. 8. The deal would value the company at nearly $30 million.
> In a letter to that special committee, Kemp and London said they were responding to a request from that committee to make an offer. “We believe that Astra’s strategic objectives and business prospects will be best served as a private company,” they wrote. “Taking the company private while delivering a meaningful premium to current shareholders allows for the best interests of shareholders as well as the Company, its employees and its customers to be met.”
> Kemp and London did not disclose their sources of financing for their proposal but said they “anticipate raising $60–65 million of capital.” That funding would cover buying the outstanding shares, transaction expenses and bridge financing while the deal closes. They added their plans are also based on the expectation the company will close an ongoing funding round of $15 million to $25 million the company announced last month.

Airbus and Voyager sign agreement with ESA on Starlab commercial space station
----
https://spacenews.com/airbus-and-voyager-sign-agreement-with-esa-on-starlab-commercial-space-station/
> CEDAR PARK, Texas — The European Space Agency has signed an agreement with Airbus and Voyager Space to study potential use of the companies’ Starlab commercial space station as a successor to the International Space Station.
> Airbus and Voyager said Nov. 9 they signed a memorandum of understanding (MOU) with ESA during the European Space Summit in Seville, Spain, earlier in the week. (Dylan Taylor, chairman and chief executive of Voyager Space, is the vice chairman and a shareholder of Multiverse Media Inc., the parent company of SpaceNews.)
> ESA could also provide cargo and crew transportation for Starlab, the companies added. The agency is starting a commercial cargo initiative it announced at the summit Nov. 6 that seeks to have a vehicle ready for missions by 2028. That cargo vehicle could later evolve into a crewed vehicle.
> “This agreement with the European Space Agency is critical as we continue to foster international collaboration in the space domain and move towards succeeding the International Space Station with Starlab,” Matthew Kuta, president of Voygaer Space, said in the statement. “We look forward to working with Airbus and ESA to extend Europe’s footprint in space and ensure they remain a leader in the new generation of commercial space exploration.”
> “Our collaboration on this next-generation space station builds on a long and successful partnership between ESA and Airbus in developing and operating a wide range of crewed and uncrewed spacecraft,” Mike Schoellhorn, chief executive of Airbus Defence and Space, said in a statement.

>>15849172
2 examples is not going to produce economies of scale, especially when you're still building to muh planetary protection standards and every contractor involved is charging 10x for "mars-grade" components and construction

>>15849172
There's plenty of economy of scale to realize, they just didn't do anything that makes it possible to capitalize on it.

Rocket Lab to launch hypersonic test vehicle for the Defense Innovation Unit
The suborbital payload is a scramjet-powered vehicle made by the Australian firm Hypersonix
---
https://spacenews.com/rocket-lab-to-launch-hypersonic-test-vehicle-for-the-defense-innovation-unit/
> WASHINGTON — Rocket Lab announced a new mission for its suborbital launch vehicle — a 3D-printed hypersonic drone built by Australia’s Hypersonix for the U.S. Defense Department.
> The mission, projected for early 2025, is funded by DoD’s Defense Innovation Unit. DIU, based in Silicon Valley, works with commercial space companies to help fill military technology needs. The suborbital mission awarded to Rocket Lab is part of DIU’s HyCat project, short for hypersonic and high-cadence testing capabilities.
> In a Nov. 8 news release, Rocket Lab said DIU’s mission is the seventh on its suborbital launch manifest.
> DIU’s payload will be scramjet-powered hypersonic vehicle made by the Australian company Hypersonix. The 660-pound drone is about 9.8-foot-long and has a 3D-printed airframe.
> “The HyCat mission will demonstrate HASTE’s ‘direct inject’ capability by deploying the Hypersonix payload during ascent, while still within Earth’s atmosphere,” said Rocket Lab.

https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1OyKAWawmBMJb

5 minutes to launch, cargo mission to ISS

>>15849195
commentary, haven't heard that in a while
sounds like Jesse

>>15849195
Where's Clear?

>>15849195
I can live with the twitter player, but there being no option for a theatre mode to expand the video to take up the whole width of the tab is criminal

>>15849202
fullscreen?

>>15849204
I don't want to have an entire desktop screen taken up for a video

I always imagine the 'stage separation confirmed' guy has literally no chin

he can't keep getting away with it

>we have just heard a call of good nominal insertion

https://twitter.com/Starlink/status/1722718316777841138

https://twitter.com/Starlink/status/1722688911040999671

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1722759691267444737
> Targeting Saturday, November 11 for a Falcon 9 launch of our ninth dedicated smallsat rideshare mission from Space Launch Complex 4E in California
> On board this mission are 90 spacecraft, including CubeSats, MicroSats, and orbital transfer vehicles

>>15849222
Is the supposed EM drive demonstrator in there this time?

why do all the males giving the milestone callouts in spacex missions sound like the exact same person? You guys know the one, the guy who says stuff like "landing leg deply" in every stream. Once one of them was actually doing the webcast commentary whilst another one was giving the callouts and I felt like I was tripping on acid.

>>15848687
Just kill yourself

>dearmoon delayed
OHNONONOOO

>>15849200
Unfortunately in the hospital (testicular cancer)

>>15848687
This fact alone is the most damning about Musk's "Starship"

>>15849240
>can't travel between stars
>can't travel inside stars
>literally 0 stars in the engines
>"starship"
My rage is immeasurable

>>15849243
It travels around a star

Checkmate

>>15849243
Elon "fraud" musk xtrikes again

they should call it boondoggleship.

>>15849250
>>15849243
Star funding is secured

>>15849243
Elon just lies by habit

>>15849223
Looks like it. I want to believe.

>>15849223
>>15849222
BASED!!

Elon Musk drive will allow us to explore the heavens!!!

>>15849243
>can't travel between stars
yes it can

>>15849259
your dad can travel between my cock and the sink but thats about it.

>>15849263
I suck cocks for a living (my dad's cock)

>>15849218
i remember maldives begging other countries to take them in as refugees because their country is expected to disappear due to the oceans rising. maybe we'll see lots of climate refugees trying to escape to mars.

https://www.youtube.com/live/5tPeV9LUq4g
she's gorgeous

>>15849280
uhh..

>>15849281
is that jessi? she got fat.

>>15849281
Girls with that haircut are built for facefucking

>>15849278
Island nations are disappearing because they sign agreements with chinks to wholesale mine offshore sandbanks for silica and their shit erodes away, not because the sea level is rising, because it isn't.

>>15849281
she's getting fatter but yeah, i'd fuck her

>>15849278
lol now that's the best grift. Instead of risking life and limb to illegally immigrate for gibs, you tug the heart-strings of gullible westerners directly.

>>15849285
porn addict

>>15849281
Evil kike schnozzer phenotypes. Gross.

Elon on Lex was surprisingly pleasant. Better than on Rogan

>>15849287
you have shit taste

>>15849281
absolutely disgusting
>>15849280
>>15849285
>>15849287
you should all kys

>>15849299
>>15849300
Nah, I just know a good fuck when I see one

Coomers are worse than flerfers

>>15849222
Impulse Space's first tech demo is also onboard. Also checked.

>>15849314
What's Impulse Space doing again?

>dearmoon delayed indefinitely
they were supposed to launch this year, what gives? They said 2023

>>15849318
Waiting for fish license

How did Elon land this oldspace-preferent contract? Can't ULA launch it in a Delta IV heavy instead of the usual Atlas V?

Also what the fuck does this plane? They stay 600 to 900 days in orbit. So it probably is not 'quick recon'.

>>15849350
>oldspace-preferent contract?
>Also what the fuck does this plane?
>They stay 600 to 900 days in orbit

Gm ser, the designated shitting street is on the left

>>15849316
Space tugs, because SpaceX cannot into higher orbits.

>>15849316
>>15849358
>Space tugs
Yes
>SpaceX cannot into higher orbits.
No

Impulse Space will offer tug service for dozens/hundreds of different orbits on a single Starship launch with 100s of sats on board.

Starship could go to handful of orbit for big chunks of deployment, but impulse will get there all individually

Space tug business seems pretty foolish honestly. SpaceX stepped into the rideshare market overnight and I'm pretty sure they could whip up a dirt cheap tug that integrates with their existing satellite busses very quickly. I would go out on a limb and say they probably already have a team working on exactly that.

>>15849368
On-orbit manufacturing is the only hope. If they had any sense, Relativity would be trying to launch a testbed sat with their glorified welder to go print arbitrarily large pressure vessels in space.
THAT's a product, gimmick rockets aren't.

>>15849368
Asteroid mining business seems pretty lucrative honestly. Blue Origin launched the first reusable rocket in 2015 and I’m pretty sure they could develop a cost-effective mining system that integrates with their existing spacecraft very quickly. I would go out on a limb and say they probably already have a vision for that

>>15849374
I think Varda is big brained, manufacturing super high value, low mass stuff that can only be made in 0G and sending it back, they will do well. But yeah, if I had some money I would look into a 0g spiral welder, send up starship max payload of sheet metal coil and start welding up retard dummy sized coke cans.

>>15849375
Why did you copy my post structure and make a gay post? Idk here's a (you), enjoy it.

>>15849350
>what the fuck does this plane
meme space warfare manuevers and testing spysat hardware

>>15849377
Sorry, I actually didnt read your post. I posted something nonsensical I found funny in my head because it is absurd to say. I got served a $300 speeding ticket and $50 hoa violation today so i'm kinda sad. i wish starship would just fly

>>15849383
Mow your lawn beaner. HOAs are big gay tho yes.

>>15849384
the fine less than the monthly, but i think i can fight it. problem is the violation is they think my house looks faded,meaning i need to paint the whole thing. over 2k to pay someone. i'll probably just do it myself. also funny thing, this is my second ticket in 2 months from the same camera. i need a blowjob bad

>>15849187
>(Dylan Taylor, chairman and chief executive of Voyager Space, is the vice chairman and a shareholder of Multiverse Media Inc., the parent company of SpaceNews.)
I don't trust this fucker

>>15849390
Why not? He's an astronaut

>>15849374
>print arbitrarily large pressure vessels in space
Enjoy your explosive decompression

https://twitter.com/INiallAnderson/status/1722788593473667369

Small starship update from the recent CRS launch

>>15849395
Also some renders

https://twitter.com/SLIM_JAXA/status/1722516887924523350
>We have received messages of support for SLIM from the 6th graders of Hara City Elementary School in Anaka City, Gunma Prefecture.
>"Challenge", "Sure to succeed", "I want to know more about the moon", "new discoveries", "life on the moon", etc., I put various thoughts in the SLIM control room.
>We will do our best to meet your expectations.
thanks google

>>15849397
https://twitter.com/SLIM_JAXA/status/1722517956243099962
>I'm glad to hear messages from everyone at Haraichi Elementary School.
>"I want you to find an alien walking on the moon" may be a little difficult, but I'll try my best!
>By the way, the shape of SLIM is quite different from other lunar landers, so next time you have a chance, I would like you to find out why the shape is different and if there is no difference other than the shape.
I wish we had more probe mascots like this, Luna 25 was very cute too.

>>15849389
>they think my house looks faded,meaning i need to paint the whole thing

jfc

I gave up on the Starlink streams since they went to Xitter, have they already introduced 4k resolution and better bitrate by now?

>>15849395
I'm 100% certain if Jessie was straight and we met it would be love at first sight (when she sees me). We have exactly the same personality, she would like how strong and imposing I am in person. We would talk about the Fermi Paradox and Starship and Robert Heinlein novels. I would hold her hand and we would explore Mars together someday. I would protect her from filthy anons on mars

>>15849403
Not yet, but youtube is unusable since they started banning anyone using adblock.

So only thing left is X for spacex stream

>>15849403
I gave up on all launches except starship launches

>>15849403
I only watch if clear streams. Not going to sign up to xeeter until he fixes that fucking turd.

EU SHITS BRING HER BAAAAAACK

>>15849406
>right click
>open in private window
>adblock now works

>>15849419
Only a matter of time until ads are hard embedded into the stream and then ad block is fucked

>>15849421
the internet is dead

>>15849419
Doesn't work. I'll stick with X as its a better platform for livestream. Usable site > unusable jewtoob

>>15849424
considering buying X premium. might need it for the 4k OFT2 stream

>>15849389
lmao
"land of the free"

>>15849425
Maybe, but I dont need 4K on my 1080p screen.

>>15849427
The kicker is I live on a county island. I cant escape.cant escape authoritarians anywhere. except space. and now you know why im here

Anons, is Ceres part of the inner solar system, or the outer? And for that matter is the Kuiper belt part of the scattered disk, or is it separate and its own 'section' of the solar system similar to the inner and outer solar system?

>>15849438
what difference, at this point, does it make

>>15849438
Being part of the asteroid belt, Ceres is part of the inner solar system.

>>15849438
It's been rightful Jovian Hegemony clay since day fucking one of the second expansion, neck yourself inner shill.

2 fucking Apollo astronauts died between Artemis 1 and Artemis 2.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/09/us/frank-borman-apollo-astronaut-obit-scn/index.html

>>15849450
The asteroid belt is a part of the Oort Cloud

Holy fucking shit

end me

>>15849460
Take your meds >>>/x/

>>15849476
just say youre calling a veteran a liar, no need to post ad homonins

>>15849452
Outercels are so mutated from bathing in radiation and liquid farts they actually believe innerCHADS who are all terrestrial planets, dont own the terrestrial dwarf planet Ceres? As expected of joviggers.
>>15849478
Yes I am calling that veteran a liar, he is a fat disgusting subhuman who peddles your fairytales of red lights in the sky that have never had a shred of real proof, not even a fucking clear, unblurry image of anything like that, for almost a century at this point.

https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1LyxBnpVEOrxN

They added a chat function on desktop. Holy crap

why are they stacking again

>>15849486
Projecting vantablack shitskin belter IP above

>>15849486

>>15849487
>that tiny ass window for the video
goddamn it Elon

>>15849487
I used to hate twitter, but now that elon owns it, i like it

>>15849389
just pressure wash it first

>>15849492
AI generation can do this now? Wow, maybe it can finally draw a hand someday

>>15849494
It has objectively gotten worse, bot issue not solved, embeds are fucked, have to sign up to read replies.

>>15849494
Unprincipled cattle. Twitter was shit then because of its users and still is shit because of its users.

>>15849503
Elon restored most of the good users to the site after they were unjustly banned.

>>15849460
Boeing has this giant cube and they still can’t build a working crew capsule.

>>15849503
excitement guaranteed

>>15849504
This is false and always has been false, 100 people being unbanned doesnt make up for the tens of millions cancerous users, MOSTLY POLITICAL USERS that were also on that list of banned users. I want to see space updates but my feed is jammed with Ronald Harringtons campaign in bumfuck nowhere for mayorship and drama #18316 of the week that I dont give a shit about, and is forced everywhere on the sight to the point that I an blocking dozens if not hundreds of people or bots a day just to get the news I want. It is a fucking attrocious user experience that NOBODY should use for updates when there are offshoots on much better organized platforms that post the same exact shit and filter it for you.

>>15849515
I get Japanese porn and gun pics sent directly to my phone 24/7 dude, you're experiencing a skill issue

After 5 stacks and destacks, this is the final stacking of B9 and S25
https://twitter.com/LabPadre/status/1722860871167377858?t=YFSkqGCTLSp1lkBuLRpZuA&s=19

>Nov 10 federal holiday
>Nov 17 deadline for government funding bill
uh oh

>>15849526
It's absolutely over

>>15849281
you think if they make her even bigger she'll gib pusy crumb
>>15849285
I used to call it "the video game journalist" but now it's everywhere

Coomers will never go to space.

>>15849524
Nope. They need to destack again for FTS

>>15849515
Just block them, smartass. My feed is over 80% spaceflight.

>>15849540
As I understand it, once you install the FTS boxes, you do not need to destack to pull the pins and arm them. FTS boxes have been installed for the ship and the booster.

>>15848558
space isn't real tho

>>15849571
I've seen it down in Michoud

>Frank Borman is dead at age 95
>not a peep from /sfg/

Disappointment is immeasurable

Is this the correct procedure?

>>15849589
For a gravel pile? They're too loosely bound for that.

>>15849417
so how would Ara-ariane 6 differ?

>>15849567
something doesnt add up

>>15849406
>adblock
>>15849419
>>15849424
uBlock Origin works, as does yt-dlp (although I had to update just now)

Strong suggestions that we will get a launch next week and this place is as crotchety as ever lol.

>>15849603
they tied some really long fishing lines to the arming pins and all they got to do is yank hard

>>15849617
What even is this garbage meme, smells like /k/ glowtrannies

>>15849595
That's why you put them in a microwave first

>>15849623
you arent a student of history

>>15849623
>newbaby doesnt know
kek do nuspacebabies really?

ass blew out today

>>15849624

It still smells like /k/ garbage.

>>15849657
>nucaca responds to wrong anon AND 'eddit spaces it
KEEEEEK NUSPACEDOODOOS REALLY DO

>>15849657
that's just how i normally smell

>>15849584
do any americans look like this anymore? Are any americans as capable as he was?

>>15849617
>Strong suggestions
The only "suggestion" strong enough to make me excited is a license and announcement of launch date from Spacex

>>15849680
wat does crotchety mean

>>15849680
This, done with all these fake leaks, its been like 20 times before IFT-1 we thought Starship would launch in 2 weeks, IFT-2 was the same. No license, no launch.
>>15849681
It really is eurohours isnt it

>>15849686
spacex said on the stream

>>15849681
You're using a machine that can tell you the answer in less than ten seconds. I'm spending longer than that on this reply, instead of telling you the answer, in the hope that you become a little more self-sufficient instead of continuing to vomit questions into the ether on pure reflex when you encounter something you don't understand.

>>15849584
>NASA's oldest living astronaut, Borman was best known for his no-nonsense demeanor and said he cared more about beating the Soviet Union in the space race than personal glory.
>Borman left NASA after Apollo 8. Unlike other astronauts at the time, he says he never wanted to land on the moon and had no regrets he didn't get the chance. "I could care less about walking on the moon. You know I would have done it if I had the mission but I never had ... in other words it wasn't an emotional thing for me to go step on the moon. But I wanted to be part of the team that beat the Russians," said Borman.
Uh, based?

On Mars, everyone will get to eat cakes and iced cream constantly. Stuff your piggy faces in the sweet delights! Oink oink!

>>15849704
clearly lying, he was definitely very butthurt over having never gone to the moon, he wouldn't have made that speech denying it if he wasn't, the thought would've never crossed his mind.

>>15849704
Seems to me like a pointless wordview
>I win you lose! Haha!!
Really?

>>15849704
>he says he never wanted to land on the moon and had no regrets he didn't get the chance

This is fucking cope, you dont be part of the first bare handful of humans to leave this rock and NOT want to set foot on the moon. If he really had no emotional involvement with the greatest human endeavour since Columbus or Magellan and was just in it because "muh russia" then good riddance.

read it and weep

>>15849711
>First manual spacecraft piloting
>First orbital rendezvous and docking
>Every single spaceflight altitude record
>First to drive a car on another celestial body
>First deep space EVA
>First reuse of previously flown spacecraft
>First to commercial manned spaceflight
>First to private commercial manned spaceflight

>>15849728
And lets not forget that the United States is the only country that has sent any spacecraft into the outer solar system

>>15849589
Oh shit is the ep already out?

>>15849400
Their orbit insertion burn is soon isn't it?

>>15849734
Nevermind, it's in deep space following its TLI. Orbit insertion is plannee for "end of December"

Anything happening from the Chinese and Indian side?

>>15849729
To be fair that's changed now with JUICE, but up until this year you'd be correct. It's kind of remarkable how the Soviets never bothered to send any missions to the outer planets, or really anywhere besides the moon, Venus and Mars (and most of their Mars missions were miserable failures).

>>15848553
>He doesn't know about mars dra 5.0

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20120012928/downloads/20120012928.pdf

>>15848630
>Starship fails during entry
Isn't the official line that they expect Starship to burn up on re-entry

>>15849780
Yes, we do.

>>15849406
there's like 10 different times to watch addless yt with no problems. brave is one of them

>>15849406
I enjoy piped and invidious. I deleted my google account since I just don't need it anymore.

>>15849728
>first song played in space
>first golf ball driven in space
>first Bible verse read in space
>first Coca Cola drunk in space

>>15849421
But that already happens with sponsorships, sponsorblock takes care of those

>>15849515
Skill issue, you need to follow the right people and curate your strea. Or use a list (feed with just people on the list, such as spaceflight news posters etc)

>>15849756
China keeps launching GEO spysats

>>15849762
The Soviets launched pretty much everything on some modification of Soyuz, so didnt have the lift capacity for a mission to the outer solar system and probably (rightly so) werent that confident about the longevity for their hardware if it had to endure half a decade of gravity assists

>>15849597
shorter skirt

>>15849350


Only 1 Delta IV Heavy left and it's booked up on NROL-70.

Either way it's getting it's ride to go and poke at a Chink Spysat/ the moon so DoD is happy.

>>15849885
Which is why the X-37 is getting a big push this time.

>>15849893
Their QA/QC was shitty/ non-existent at the best of times. Lots of occassions of satellites just streaight up having bad components.

>>15849497
It's getting better at hands for sure. Although this can vary from model to model.
https://files.catbox.moe/c2rawz.png

>>15849915
I'm in fucking tears, that was not what I expected.

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/spacex-musk-safety/

>Reuters documented at least 600 previously unreported workplace injuries at Musk’s rocket company: crushed limbs, amputations, electrocutions, head and eye wounds and one death.

>>15849910
Meanwhile Voyagers are still returning data.

>>15849930
>reuters
well, uh, guess what: I don't believe it.

>>15849930
curious timing on the release of this bombshell

>>15849930
We just going to forget about that guy Starliner amputated? Or those engineers that died when a Virgin Galactic engine exploded?

>>15849930
Remember the security guy pinned down by the shitty rolling entrance gate that had no stoppers?

>>15849930
>one death
kek

>>15849930
The MSM has a thing against Musk. They're trying everything they can to destroy him

Where else do you lurk, sfg? I like the candor, memes, and occasionally insightful post here but I’d also like to broaden my horizons. I also read arstechnica for Berger and now Clark, but Berger is the OG.

https://twitter.com/Steve_Sailer/status/1722873376149209319

>>15849930
>industry average of workplace injuries per 100 workers is 0.8 per year
>company that is launching (read: actually working) a multiple of the rest of the industry combined has 1.5-3 injuries per 100 workers per years
FELON MUSKRAT CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS

>>15849930
> They needed to transport foam insulation to the rocket company’s main hangar but had no straps to secure the cargo. LeBlanc, a relatively new employee, offered a solution to hold down the load: He sat on it.
>After the truck drove away, a gust blew LeBlanc and the insulation off the trailer, slamming him headfirst into the pavement. LeBlanc, 38, had retired nine months earlier from the U.S. Marine Corps. He was pronounced dead from head trauma at the scene.
this is retarded

>>15849958
kek, what a noble sacrifice.

>>15849930
what is the industry average for build sites? because starbase has basically been a buildsite for years now, even the person that died was sitting on some insulation (for a building?)
comparing to other rocket companies doesn't make sense

>>15849955
https://gocodes.com/construction-injury-statistics/

2.8 injuries per 100 workers per year is the avg in construction

So its actually a nothingburger

>>15849930
the timing of this is very convenient waiting to do it just before the launch license is announced pretty much

>>15849958
crayoneater did something dumb? woah

>>15849958
kek
>work for a logging company
>no straps to hold down the tree trunks
>I know, I will SIT on the logs as we drive down the highway
>dies

>>15849962
so half than average compared to other construction sites lol

>>15849967
this, holy shit
I feel zero sympathy

>>15849958
>gravity securing specialist

>>15849958
> Current and former employees said such injuries reflect a chaotic workplace where often under-trained and overtired staff routinely skipped basic safety procedures as they raced to meet Musk’s aggressive deadlines for space missions. SpaceX, founded by Musk more than two decades ago, takes the stance that workers are responsible for protecting themselves, according to more than a dozen current and former employees, including a former senior executive.
so treat the workers like adults instead of retarded children?

>>15849971
workplace complaints being some DEI shit due to Musk buying twitter or what are they talking about?
wouldn't be surprised at all if this is the case, technically correct but irrelevant

Falling foam insulation results in space industry death.
Not news.

>>15849976
kek

4.8 at starbase seems kind of high, 50% more than construction sites on average but difficult to say how accurate these are really if they are scraped together from random sources

>>15849953
only /sfg/, and Neager videos. everything else is pure aids

>>15849974
> SpaceX has defended its safety practices in written responses to OSHA and CalOSHA. In response to an inquiry into the Cabada accident, SpaceX argued to CalOSHA that it shouldn’t be held responsible for such injuries because it provides extensive safety training and the malfunction was not reasonably foreseeable. Accountability for such part failures and any resulting injuries falls instead on a cadre of employees known as “responsible engineers,” or REs, the company wrote.

>>15849989
Fake statistics and fake conclusions

>six times higher than space industry average
SpaceX is doing 10X more than space industry average, so that number is well below the work output avg

>>15849993
> Carson himself eventually was fired in January 2022 after getting into a scuffle with a boss. Carson, who is African American, said he shoved the manager, a younger man, because he had repeatedly called Carson “boy,” despite Carson’s requests that he stop. “Boy” is widely considered a racial epithet by Americans when used to refer to a Black man. The supervisor, who could not be reached for comment, was not disciplined, according to Carson. Reuters could not independently confirm how SpaceX handled the incident.
lol

>>15849996
> Florentino Rios suffered a severe eye injury at SpaceX’s Brownsville site one summer night in 2021, as he worked about 25 feet off the ground attaching two beams to a launch pad. A crane operator missed a hand signal from Rios and mistakenly tried to move the beams after they were fixed in place, Rios said in an interview. That error caused a chain connecting the crane to the beams to snap and strike Rios in the face. Another worker who was present confirmed Rios’ account.
> The company, in court records, argued that Rios’ own negligence was to blame. The case is ongoing.

This was just released

>>15850002

>>15850003
TOUCH DOWN

>>15849999
6min video (its compressed from the original)
https://files.catbox.moe/eq8sor.mp4

>>15850006
> The company also boosts development speed through a structure that gives managers high levels of autonomy but raises safety risks, the dozen current and former SpaceX workers said. The company is split into three teams: engineering, manufacturing, and testing. The engineering leadership includes the “responsible engineers” SpaceX designates as accountable for safety in manufacturing. But those engineers have little control of other teams, including the one that stress-tests the engines and parts they develop, according to two staffers with knowledge of the matter.

generally this article reminds me a lot of a similar one with respect to Tesla, difficult to say how accurate it is ultimately

>>15850002
>>15850003
>>15850004
So the 4th season is finally going to be interesting?
I gave up on the third just after a couple of episodes, it was 10% space and 90% politics, LGBT rights and relationships.

>>15850014
why do you think its going to be interesting? I guarantee you its going to be similar slop, not worth your time

Don't any of these niggas wear PPE? Like all of these are preventable injuries.

Also I find it funny searching up "PPE" gives you the masks and faceshield shit now, rather than hardhats and gloves.

>>15850014
I only watch for the space shit.

LGBT/communist politics isn't my thing.

>>15850004

>a crane operator misses a single hand signal
>somehow spacex as a company is to blame and not the small mind of the operator
is this really how america works legally?

>>15850021
Yes. Companies are liable for anything that happen on their property. Including controlling their workforce.

In fact, its not just companies, but individuals as well. If someone slips/falls/and gets injured on my wet door step, they can sue me for negligence.

>>15850002
> flags waving in the Martian breeze
imagine watching this drivel lmao

https://twitter.com/DJSnM/status/1722974428374733205

MORE SIGNS THAT THE COMPANY IS GETTING READY FOR LAUNCH NEXT WEEK

>>15850025
thats retarded

>>15850025
what a shithole mentality
in a reasonable world you fuck up and fall? your fault
a little common sense goes a long way to safely doing things
a crane operator missing a single hand signal probably due to human error should be the fault of the crane operator and not the company

>>15850027

>>15850031
>a little common sense goes a long way to safely doing things
Thats illegal.

>>15850033
>shieet, maybe if om da towa i clip into da rail so i don die if i slip n fall
is common sense really not that common?

>>15850037
If it common sense was common, we wouldn't be in this situation. The legal mess we have in this country are created due to ~250 years of laws being written in without any expiration dates.

All laws must have expiration dates. Anything important can have 20 year expiration dates. Anything personal can have 5-10 year expiration dates. Entire libraries are created to maintain old laws that have never expired. And libraries upon libraries to interpret those old laws.

>>15850037
Alot of leniency is given to workers to be braindead.
Someone got a workmans comp claim because he got injured on a company bike that was in observable disrepair.

Doesn't take a genius to see the tires are almost completely deflated and dry rotted but it's not the responsibility of the employee to notice that apparently.

>>15850031
The point is that the company should make sure that employees don't have to rely on easily missable hand signs and instead have a voice link of some sort or something. If they then still don't use it, the company can argue that it did everything to provide a safe way of doing things. Safety measures are as much liability protection as they are actual injury protection, it's a win-win if done properly.

I literally can't wait.

>>15850070
to die in an accident at feloneous mumblekings companies? get in line.

>>15849942

>>15850075
KIA.

>Adult ADHD may take a toll on the brain. A recent study published in JAMA Network Open reported that being diagnosed with ADHD as an adult is associated with a 2.77-fold increased risk of dementia.
its so fucking over adhdbros....

>>15849421
They would never hard embed (unless you're talking about splicing in a different ad for each user) because the strength of digital advertising is being able to target specific users (and being able to comprehensively and exactly measure impressions and conversions).

Hard embedding makes the first impossible and the second more difficult.

>>15850085
all they need to do is copy whatever twitch is doing

>>15850081
neuralink will solve this

>>15850092
it will be so funny when people have fucking copper leeching into their brains giving them dementia and yet still praising elon MUSKRATIC

Rocket lab to launch Aussie hypersonic scramjet!

>>15849571
>>15849579
Let’s be very honest again. We don’t have a commercially available universe-sized hard vacuum. Space may someday come about. It’s on the drawing board right now. The atmosphere is real. You've seen it down at Michoud. We're building the troposphere. We have all the strata done, ready to be put on the surface of the Earth at Stennis. I don't see any hardware for an outer space, except that he's going to take an atmosphere and remove all the gas and that becomes outer space. It's not that easy in cosmogony.

>>15849584
Already posted in this very thread
You are, sadly, a gay retard

>>15849930
>reuters no releases op-ed hit pieces
how the mighty have fallen

>>15850106
brb going to create a true vacuum

>>15849964
isnt that what happened a few months ago? right around the time of a suspected starship launch, there was some hit piece or lawsuit that sprung out of nowhere, trying to steal the spotlight from the potential launch.

is he the god of orbits?

>>15850002
remember when this show at least tried to be based on realism?

>>15850119
When was that again?

>>15849964
Nah, they regularly publish hit pieces on Musk, like every other day or so.

If its not them, its CNN/CNBC/NPR/etc. The whole of the news media is controlled by the same elites who sees Musk as a threat to their ideology

>>15850096
you should be banned from using it

>>15850123
the media is bad these days but i heard it used to be way worse, when the news was basically tabloids used to witch hunt people. i guess they've gone back to that after a brief few decades of being a respectable industry. no wonder so many of them are dying off.

>>15850130
Its way worse because in the past there was lot of competition. Now its a single large elite cabal controlled by handful of people at the top that share the same cocktails.

There are almost no competition, thats why you get the unified propaganda. The only remaining competition is X and the conservative media. And ofcourse its in their political interest to paint X as conservative so that they can have half the country dismiss it with political ideological programming

>>15850133
>the media wasnt controlled by an elite cabal x years before I was born

>>15850136
It was actually a lot more diverse, but they've merged into giant blobs. Giant investment firms from elites took control of some companies, they bought smaller competitions, and merged them together. The smaller companies sold because internet took their viewerships. Now the internet is largely controlled by the same few investment bank elites that control the media as well.

>>15850140
>It was actually a lot more diverse, but they've merged into giant blobs. Giant investment firms from elites took control of some companies, they bought smaller competitions, and merged them together. The smaller companies sold because internet took their viewerships. Now the internet is largely controlled by the same few investment bank elites that control the media as well.

>>15849728
>First to commercial manned spaceflight
>First to private commercial manned spaceflight
These are the most important and are not possible in a failed planned economy.
Centralized planing will never lead sustainable space access, the same way it didn’t lead to sustainable air travel o car access to the popualtion.

>>15849711
Poor man's cope

>>15850119
more like cringe on realism lmao gottem

>>15849487
now they just need chat replay

>>15850147
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1722995121879233003