/sci/ - Science & Math

Have you tried using anki?

>>15836048
Anon, you are supposed to understand that stuff, not just memorize it like a parrot.

>>15836059
I can tell you never touched organic chemistry.

Don't know the answer, but yes, it's hard.

>>15836059
You are correct, but organic chemistry is taught in a way which promotes raw memorization.
>t. chemist

>>15836265
LMAO, you are getting scammed.

>>15836616
It's tested that way too, e.g.: "What is the name of the molecular structure in this diagram?"

>>15836654
Yup. Unfortunately, I learned very little organic chem in organic chem class. I learned it later.

>>15836048
anki u faggot

>>15836048
>remember
LMAOOOOO
memory is a peasant slave duty lmao you're supposed to hold it in temporary memory to develop permanent intuition
I have a degree in maths and I don't even know what 12x13 is and I don't want to fucking know and if you told me I would forget it
t. 150k starting data scientist

>>15836654
What? If you aren't dumb, and it isn't asking for a common name, you can get the name based on conventional rules.

>>15836048
Just memorize all 13 godzillion possible hydrocarbons bro

>>15836048
Try flash cards...

>>15836727
Nice LARP.

>>15836048
Having photographic memory and spatial imagination helps a lot, especially when learning mechanisms and drawing stereoisomers. Also, I found it easier to learn mechanisms by drawing them on board/paper rather than simply memorizing them straight from the book.
It's not really that bad otherwise. If Clayden gives you trouble, try McMurry or Morrison-Boyd.

>>15836648
In what way?

>>15836265
>I-I don't need to understand the material!
>J-Just need to memorize it pass tests and get my degree!
Your career is dead before you even graduated, lmao.

>>15838199
>I-I don't need to memorize the IUPAC naming rules.
>I am so fluent in them that I don't even need to memorize anything, because I understood them.

>I-I know when E2 beats SN2. It is just plain obvious to me, when I see it. No need to memorize any rules.

Statements dreamt up by the utterly deranged.

>>15838199
I've nearly failed OC 2 like many others before and after me. Still I have a successful career going on, pretty weird.

>>15836059
ochem is like 95% memorization lmfao
>UMMM NO IT'S NO-
cope.
t. mathematician

>>15836048
Try learning about different metabolisms just to get a better idea of what molecule does what, given a specific organism and an environment of roughly-known composition. Example: initially, you obviously shouldn't try memorizing all the different substance names, but if you're given a petri dish with KNO3 and a bacteria colony consuming it anaerobically without producing fermentation products, you can already tell it's doing anaerobic respiration with KNO3- instead of O2. See how you can understand so much about the organism's metabolism without remembering the gorillion enzyme names.

As a step 2 of the learning process, focus on pathways and mechanisms common to most organisms. Transport chains in Mitochondria, bacteria, Archaea and Chloroplasts, Krebs, Pentose Phosphate, Calvin, Glyconeogenesis and Fermentation. It's a lot, but once you learn a single one, it's going to save you a lot of trouble in other pathways and organisms.
Lastly, as per the example I gave: what anons are saying about not memorizing is semi-true for biochem. You'll end up having to memorize some bullshit, especially in more specialized metabolisms (example: secondary metabolites in plants), but for now you should aim for understanding how different organisms survive with their given metabolic "baggage": what allows them to thrive in certain conditions, and how energy influx works.