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Impending Kaboom Edition

Previous >>15821069

>> No.15824252
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I saw that message in the last thread krystalfag.

>> No.15824254

Chertov

>> No.15824261
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>>15824252
stand back and stand by

>> No.15824268

My good friend Anton

Please do not takethis as a message of disrespect

But please stop taking the viagara from the lower cabinet

>> No.15824273

>FWS got scared and had to release a cope statement saying their own timeline estimate is probably too pessimistic
kek

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Glass the Earth, demigod war eventually

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>>15824274

>> No.15824286

Titan has like a few lakes and theyre tiny. more like lame puddles, and only at the north pole. disappointing

>> No.15824293
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Gomets :DDD

>> No.15824306

https://www.youtube.com/live/amXx1bW4n1M?si=Oh4YNKXd6_4NrTof
hot girl interview dr bob zubrin mars society

>> No.15824327

>>15824293
My dead colleague (Anton)

Sorry to intercede, but would you stop doing this?

It isn't helping.

>> No.15824331

>>15824327
Sorry, I apologize Alexey

This cant not happen

Trust me

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spaceboat

>> No.15824371

>>15824368
You may as well drive a car in wet cement

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>>15824273
https://x.com/13ericralph31/status/1717588084098048270

>> No.15824411

>>15824368
thats just the 3D render of that space force plane

>> No.15824413

>>15824409
stop noticing patterns

>> No.15824421

two more weeks

>> No.15824434

>>15824409
They were doing fucking NOTHING until the day after the hearing holy fuck I hate them so much kill all of them

>> No.15824463

>>15824371
No such thing as wet cement. Cement is a powder. Once it's wet, it becomes grout, mortar, or concrete, depending on what else is added.

>> No.15824465

>>15823711
Hasn't only Phantom has actually announced plans on launching from Australia?

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/phantom-space-corporation-selects-arnhem-space-centre-for-new-dedicated-launch-site-301802415.html

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>>15824409
Gee I wonder who couldve been leaning on the inherently leftwing FWS and the leftwing bureaucracy of the FAA with the absence of an administrator.

>> No.15824501

It really feels like only the Chinese government has both the resources and the motivation to build a starship competitor.
I honestly have higher hopes for blue origin than any European initiative.

IF neutron is on schedule, then they may be able to edge out flights against falcon 9 and an early, low launch cadence starship, but once starship is up to speed they would also need to transition to a fully reusable system, which is a tall order.
There is potentially space for a baby starship in the US market, but getting there will be very hard.

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Why is SpaceX merch so shit? It's just a tiny "ecks" plastered on a normal shirt and its sold for $30. No wonder people buy stuff from NSF.

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Eris flyby mission when? It's currently the largest known object in the solar system we have yet to visit up close with a spacecraft.

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>>15824463
>No such thing as wet cement. Cement is a powder. Once it's wet, it becomes grout, mortar, or concrete, depending on what else is added.

>> No.15824578

>>15824556
luv those terrestrial bodies <3__<3

>> No.15824587

>>15824556
someone should take this and add additional info such as surface gravity, temperature range and average, atmosphere pressure and composition, element composition, volcanism,and so on so you could casually get a feel for what these planets actually are

>> No.15824611

>>15824503
DIY then

>> No.15824628

>>15824501
Tbh I think stoke has a better chance at competing then any other current company. There is little point in these soon to be obsolete launch platforms, they already can't compete with F9 and F9 won't dissappear any time soon.

>> No.15824650

>>15824463
grout, mortar and concrete all fall under "wet cement" category

>> No.15824685

>>15824503
Only niggers and children wear graphic shirts.

>> No.15824699

BO is going to buy out boing's 50% share of ULA arent they?

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Io, Io, it's off to work we go

>> No.15824736

>>15824628
Stoke has the problem that every other reusable rocket launch company apart from PaceX has. They try to put the cart before the horse. They try to develope the reusable side before they even have a working rocket. That means they will just never launch because of the amount of burnt time and capital. Stoke would be far better off making a conventional rocket with the dimensions they have planned, then once it's got a decent cadence and income (i understand this is probably hard in todays launch environment) they can experiment like SpaceX. I could see the Stoke second stage launching, but the fact they don't even have the beginning parts of a first stage is a problem.

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>>15824503
Imagine posting in /sfg/ and not knowing about engineering socks.

>> No.15824753

>>15824736
>i understand this is probably hard in todays launch environment

It's not just hard, it's basically impossible. Your only hope is getting smallsat launches into strange orbits which is the exact same market that every single other launcher smaller than F9 is trying to compete in right now and they already have functional rockets so good luck lmao. They are doing the right thing by cutting ahead to full reusability.

>> No.15824766

>>15824628
>F9 won't dissappear any time soon
I thought Elon wanted to get rid of F9 asap?

>> No.15824767

>>15824766
No-one cares about Ellen Husk.

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can soeone explain why hls starship is white, and why other variants are not?
Some have said white is for thermal management and to prevent boiloff, buit if thats the case why arent Mars variant starships epicted as white since like 5 years ago?

>> No.15824771

>>15824766
well what does soon mean? Its going to take some time to crew rate Starship, build launchpads and so on

>> No.15824774

>>15824753
i undestand that the market is more saturated than ever by SpaceX coattail riding companies, but trying to jump right ahead to a reusable launch vehicle has never worked, not even once. Every startup before and after SpaceX that tried this went bankrupt without ever making it to orbit. I count BO in this list too because lets be real without Jeff they would have flopped hard with no life support

>> No.15824789

>Dear Moon mission
>behind the moon
>Starship starts depressurizing
>everyone panicks
>Tim Dott dies
>everyone onboard dies .

>> No.15824790

>>15824789
>Retard
>In this thread
>Filtered

>> No.15824793

I have some uncomfortable truths for the SpaceX fans out there.

>> No.15824800

>>15824793
*unzips*
Lets hear it

>> No.15824819

>>15824789
>Hi It's me Tim Dodd, the everyday astronaut *3-2-1... liftoff! *shit royalty free music starts playing as the intro rolls**

>> No.15824823

>>15824800
No comment on the Starship program but let's just say its not causing any kind of panic among their competitors.
As far as engineering talent goes, from what ive seen it mostly goes the other way - ppl work there for a few years but then move on to big aerospace firms in the socal area - NG, Lockheed, JPL, etc (not necessarily to work on rockets). Senior managers and engineers aren't really lining up to go work at SpaceX; it's mostly new grads that find that concept appealing.
Not hating on them or anything. They singlehandedly killed our Russian reliance among other things, but nevertheless my observations seem accurate.

>> No.15824826

PressureFedAstronaut wins every time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNt_SyJjNGw&t

>> No.15824827

SpaceX fanboys are the most didiculous midwits out there. This is why they are quarantined on actual space discussion websites.

>> No.15824829

>>15824246
YSK that products which have 666 in the barcode number are made much better than the other products. Theyre healthier, and they taste much better. The packaging also contains depictions of religious symbolism. I suggest you go verify this fact for yourself, if you want to be caught up to speed on the state of our hellish existence.

>> No.15824831

>>15824819
I think its his music

>> No.15824833

>>15824826
you keep posting these but never bring out even one argument in them

>> No.15824834

>>15824823
lmao, everyone knows that

>> No.15824835

>>15824833
just watch them instead of asking me to spoonfeed you like a Muskrat baby

>> No.15824836

>>15824835
I don't think I will

>> No.15824838

>>15824836
>"wah wah! i have my fingers in my ear so i cant hear it wah wah!"

>> No.15824839

>>15824835
Nope, I don't waste time on those armchair experts

>> No.15824841

>>15824838
I am not going to watch 3h of random ramblings
how fucking difficult is it to bring out one argument? I bet you haven't even watched them yourself

>> No.15824844

>>15824835
>just read/watch my link
>>what is the point you are trying to make
>just read/watch it, okay?
typical schizo midwittery

>> No.15824847

>>15824823
Yeah, we knew.
Musk's retarded antics tend to drive talent away even if they could stomach the awful working conditions otherwise.

>> No.15824848

>>15824844
"Me cant watch more than 60 seconds of video, me a baby!"

>> No.15824849

>>15824823
SpaceX is amateur hour and gets laughed at by others in the industry. Its crazy how real the difference is between public perceptio and the views of people who actually know the industry.

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>>15824838
>>15824848
go back, Grug

>> No.15824851

>>15824823
Yeah, everyone leaves SpaceX and goes to work to BO where the real progress happens.

>> No.15824855

yes the competition is coming for Tes- I mean SpaceX

>> No.15824859

Pretty funny that SpaceX is free to test the water deluge system and even do static fires with it, but can't launch a rocket for some reason
the steam from rocket launches is worse than static fires somehow?

>> No.15824861

>>15824859
I'm sure it's because the FAA has no power to cockblock static fires because nothing is actually in the air.

>> No.15824862

>>15824859
Everyone knows the benefit of the development out weighs the environmental cost but bureaucrats must justify their worthless jobs.

>> No.15824863

>>15824861
But shouldn't that wildlife thing still be a problem? Rocket on pad exploding would cause more damage to surroundings than rocket exploding in air.

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>> No.15824868

>>15824863
apparently this isn't even about mitigating damage, its just about documenting possible damage to wildlife
there is just way too much red tape

>> No.15824871

>>15824862
It's political pressure to punish Elon for not toeing the Democrat line.

>> No.15824874

>>15824868
That's still no excuse for them to sit on it until Congress notices that nothing is happening >>15824409

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https://twitter.com/KenKirtland17/status/1717576459403903063

>> No.15824916

>>15824900
They won't allow anyone to leave, mark my words.

>> No.15824939
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Bill is at Blue today
https://x.com/senbillnelson/status/1717904201617908137?s=46&t=ySaWSLoZU6lwZ7u03-FcBQ

>> No.15824940

>>15824939
lol has this dude been to starbase?

>> No.15824943

>>15824849
>SpaceX is amateur hour
Bait?

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We are never leaving this planet bros. It's over

>> No.15824947

>>15824939
does spacex do nonsense like this? has elon approved 0 value work like this?

>> No.15824951

>>15824947
yeah starbase has had politicians visit it before

>> No.15824953

>>15824951
no, building useless mockups

>> No.15824960

>>15824953
depends how you define "useless", but spacex does have mockups as well like the HLS mockup that was moved recently and crew dragon mockup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XILH_Nejafc

https://airandspace.si.edu/multimedia-gallery/jsc2018e067956jpg

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>>15824862
>Everyone knows the benefit of the development out weighs the environmental cost
ok chang
>bureaucrats must justify their worthless jobs.
chinks are a counter example of bureaucrats giving zero fucks about pollution. Result is tofu ghost city garbage piles eating up what little arable land there is, compounded by the absolutely destroyed ground water (>90% unusable, not even for plants) and air pollution equivalent of several perma active volcano eruptions

the case of spacex rocket development is on the other end of the spectrum in regards to bureaucracy overregulating micro management yet will take heavy handed oversight every day over fast and loose industrialists. If the spaceX crew wants less oversight time to jury rig the tower and OLM to a deep sea oil platform and launch from international waters. There they have much less to worry about alongside the chink ecological disaster known as chang rogue fishing fleet

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Is it a 1:1 mock-up?

>> No.15824970

>>15824969
not the same without the blue balls

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>>15824969
what is he thinking

>> No.15824982

>>15824966
Doing sea launches would still be under FAA jurisdiction

>> No.15824985

>>15824974
>I want to go back to my boat
>my feet hurt

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>>15824969

>> No.15824991

>>15824974
>why is my head always so cold

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>>15824969
So apparently it is a mock up of the demonstrator lander which will fly before the crewed version lands for its respective Artemis mission

>> No.15825006

>>15824939
Does Bill know that Blue Origin makes nothing public and it is currently a giant mystery what it is they do with 30,000 employees?

>> No.15825010
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>>15824969
>That lean
Ngmi

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>>15824969

>> No.15825017
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>>15825013
jeff is the only one not smiling

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>>15825017
looks kind of pissed actually

>> No.15825019

>>15825013
> why am I talking to this corpse creeper

>> No.15825029

>>15825017
>>15825018
he's just applying the lessons his charisma tutor gave him during their last session.

>> No.15825037

>>15825013
Not-SpaceX team

>> No.15825039

>>15824969
>>15825010
>>15825013
>>15825017
https://x.com/SenBillNelson/status/1717904201617908137

>> No.15825047

>>15824974
>there could be spacex around here

>> No.15825055

>>15825018
>>15825017
Bill Nelson and his old age makes him look so creepy with his tiny shrunken eyes. Fuck old age.

>> No.15825060

>>15825029
Unironically. He's clearly trying to appear as a stoic and tough leader standing infront of his creation, but he just comes off as pissed off.

>> No.15825063

>>15825018
where do the crew go? where's the door?

>> No.15825073

>>15825063
shut up chud.

>> No.15825097

>>15825073
>chud
Go back to /pol/ faggot

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>>15825097
I think you mean /his/ faggot

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>>15824900

>> No.15825138

>>15824974
He looks like a body double.

>> No.15825152

>>15824943
Of course its bait are you retarded? Dont give him (you)s

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>>15824503
This is a good piece DOE and its not a graphic shirt. Also this one is gonna resell for allot if that other flamethrower was anything to go off of.

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It's over...

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>>15825194
no...

>> No.15825198

>>15825194
Good morning sirs. I told you faggots no launch in 2023 and now look.

>> No.15825203

>>15825172
I keep forgetting I have one ofnthese on order

>> No.15825210

>>15825001
a mock-up of a mock-up. Astounding

>> No.15825212

>>15825001
why would they build a whole different lander as a demo mission? doesnt that just introduce more risk and cost?

>> No.15825213
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Peregrine lunar lander has been shipped to the cape, Dreamchaser will launch no earlier than March

>> No.15825215

>>15825213
dreamchaser is the gayest name ever. whoever works on it would rather chase cum up a mans anus.

>> No.15825221

>>15825194
Don't they need to remove it to get access to some stuff inside? Could it be related to FTS work?

>> No.15825223

>>15825212
On the other hand I want to watch a lander land and take off successfully again before I'd agree to set foot on it.

>> No.15825225

>>15825213
I wonder if Dream Chaser will be ready before the next Vulcan core. I know Tory's said that they're working on the next few but he hasn't posted any actual pictures of them and you'd think he'd at least tweet something about the second set of BE-4s getting shipped.

>> No.15825228

>>15824823
Everyone leaves spacex to ‘retire’ at one of the other big aerospace players (Boeing, blue origin, Lockheed etc). At those other companies you get decent work-life balance but the progress is so slow that you need to accept you’re not going to be changing the world anymore. If those other companies were smart/better run, they’d use the talent productively. But they don’t. Case in point: blue origin is roughly the same headcount as spacex and if they did anything slower they’d be going backwards. And they have a lot of spacex alums.

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What did they mean by this?

>> No.15825238

>>15825234
They probably finished putting the TPS on it, so it's visually "done" and can be shown off

>> No.15825240

>>15825234
They're building basic social media hype for an announcement in a few days? They're probably just going show off their technically done spaceplane and talk about how they're going to launch in six months.

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https://twitter.com/blueorigin/status/1717911587724664941

>> No.15825250

>>15825221
Yes, the adapter covers up everything in the interstage so any interstage work needs the thing unbolted and removed. Hopefully they have a better plan for the next booster.

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>>15825248
https://www.blueorigin.com/blue-moon/mark-1
> Blue Moon
Mark 1

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>>15825252
> Single-Launch Cargo Lander
>Blue Moon Mark 1 (MK1) is a single-launch, lunar cargo lander that remains on the surface and provides safe, reliable, and affordable access to the lunar environment. MK1 will provide cargo transport, leveraging the 7-meter fairing of the New Glenn launch vehicle, to deliver up to three metric tons anywhere on the lunar surface.

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>>15825253
> Pathfinder Mission
>The Pathfinder Mission (MK1-SN001) will be a demonstration mission, with MK1-SN002 and beyond available to payload customers. MK1-SN001 proves out critical systems, including the BE-7 engine, cryogenic fluid power and propulsions systems, avionics, continuous downlink communications, and precision landing within 100 m site accuracy, prior to the uncrewed NASA Human Landing System mission for the Artemis program.

>> No.15825256

>>15825248
https://twitter.com/BellikOzan/status/1717932703528763502

> Koulouris talking about the tech needed as if it's still low TRL and Blue doing photo ops with mock ups rather than test articles both seem like signals that this MK1 lander is quite a few years away from flying.
>This is the lander they need to build and fly *before* they build and fly the actual HLS lander that is bigger and has additional tech. And they need to demo that one before they put astronauts on it.
>If they didn't already have a contact for the whole thing with a late 20s target date (that even NASA admits is unrealistic), I'd have said we're at a similar point in the timeline to where SpaceX was when they had Dragon 1 mock ups, over a decade before Dragon 2 first flew astronauts.
>But having a fixed end goal (and hopefully steady funding) should help, maybe enough to compensate for the greater technical ambition and slower company culture.
>Still hard to imagine it landing astronauts on the Moon before the mid 30s, likely 5+ years after Starship HLS.

>> No.15825258

>>15825248
now that I know it's a cargo lander I don't hate it. but a long term moon base surrounded by a half dozen of these things discarded would look pretty goofy

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>>15825248
https://twitter.com/DJSnM/status/1717938388815475125
> Blue origin’s Blue Moon no longer has Blue Balls.

https://twitter.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1717914354379551130
> I’m telling you all, don’t sleep on Blue Origin as a legitimate player in the upcoming market. Just because they haven’t done much publicly, doesn’t mean they’re just sitting around doing nothing. It’s awesome to see more of their Blue Lander!

>> No.15825262

>>15824969
>still building mockups all these years later

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>> No.15825270

>>15825260
But what if they are sitting around and doing nothing

>> No.15825274

>>15825270
what, like spacex?

>> No.15825280

>>15824847
>>15824849
>>15825228

the NRO contractors especially are very comfy
a lot of the USAF folks (surprised to find so many at SpaceX!) end up there as they 'should' given their experience

>> No.15825286

>>15825280
Replace experience with clearance

Leave the service with an active clearance and you can name your price to any one of a number of defense contractors

>> No.15825288

>>15825258
Surely there's some recycling of the lower stage that astronauts on-site could do? Tanks could be repurposed for storage at the very least.

>> No.15825301

>>15825288
You'd hope so, but I wouldn't put it past them not to have thought about this.

>> No.15825309

>>15825280
>>15825286
Stop with the gay spacing.

>> No.15825315

Remove the local biosphere at boca so there is nothing to complain about
Throw car batteries in the ocean
Torch the grasslands
Pump out the wetlands
Make it so that a bunch of super heavy lift rocket launches have a minuscule effect compared to the death and destruction already waged
In minecraft

>> No.15825320

>>15825315
Just pave the whole thing over

>> No.15825374
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15825374

Rocket Report: China launches 3-man crew; SpaceX adds to busy manifest
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https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/10/rocket-report-china-launches-3-man-crew-spacex-adds-to-busy-manifest/

Small Rockets
> India tests escape system for human-rated crew capsule
> Avio wants to sell Vega rockets on its own.
> ABL is taking steps toward another launch
> Rocket Lab aims to return to flight this year.
> ArianeGroup outlines progress in reusable rocket efforts.

Medium Rockets
> China has launched three astronauts.
> Next year, SpaceX aims to average one launch every 2.5 days.
> SpaceX adds to its busy launch schedule.
> Ariane 6 fueled up again for nighttime dress rehearsal.

Heavy Rockets
> Tory Bruno, ULA's CEO, talked a lot this week.
> SpaceX performs another Starship wet dress rehearsal.

>> No.15825378
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15825378

I'm guessing this is the right spot to ask. I started a spess show on netflix and one of the early developments is they have to sling shot around a star. Okay, cool, classic sci-fi shit, lfg. Then the captain says "enter orbit" and then "well we have to orbit it 3 times then [go fast]". I was mad they called it orbit but they actually meant orbit, and orbit 3 times as if that doesn't destroy the whole concept of a slingshot maneuver. I'm chalking it up to millennials are writers now and dropping the show, but I just wanted to check /sci/ in case I'm wrong, but I'm not am I? Slingshot is a path using the gravity of a body to speed you up or slow you down, and does not include a full revolution, and cannot be called orbit. Correct or am I the stupid one here?

>> No.15825383
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15825383

Reuse in Europe: Prometheus and Themis reach new milestones
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> ArianeGroup outlines progress in reusable rocket efforts. The methane-fueled Prometheus engine, seen in Europe as a starting point for a future reusable rocket, has undergone regular test-firings at ArianeGroup's facility in Vernon, France, since its first hot-fire test in June, the company reported this week. Most recently, ArianeGroup accomplished a 30-second Prometheus firing, followed shortly by a reignition. The Prometheus engine will be the means of propulsion for a test rocket hopper vehicle called Themis, developed with European Space Agency funding to demonstrate suborbital vertical takeoff and vertical landing technologies. "The aim now is to test operation of the engine throughout its thrust envelope during the coming months," ArianeGroup said. "The engine’s ability to vary its thrust is essential for the Themis stage to be able to return to Earth."
>OK, but when will it be ready to fly? ... The answer to this question: It depends. If you're talking about low-altitude hop tests, analogous to what SpaceX did with its Grasshopper testbed a decade ago, then the answer is next year. Maybe? Major parts of the first Themis vehicle have arrived at ArianeGroup's Vernon plant for integration, and landing legs have undergone their first deployment tests. The initial low-altitude hop tests will be based out of Kiruna, Sweden. Higher-altitude demonstrations will follow later at the Guiana Space Center in South America. Lessons from the Themis program will, theoretically, help inform designs for the replacement for Europe's Ariane 6 rocket, which is still awaiting its first flight. ArianeGroup plans to market the Prometheus engine for use on other commercial rockets. (submitted by EllPeaTea and Ken the Bin)

https://press.ariane.group/reutilisation-en-europe-prometheus-et-themis-franchissent-de-nouvelles-etapes-10733/?lang=eng

>> No.15825385
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15825385

https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/10/daily-telescope-meet-the-flying-bat-and-squid-nebulae/

>> No.15825389

>>15825374
Imagine of Starship got the same kind of attention the SLS WDRs did

>> No.15825393

>>15825374
I can't believe that Arianespace thinks that marketing Prometheus is going to turn them into a European Aerojet. The only companies buying their engines these days are ULA and Astra. Astra's perpetually one quarter away from bankruptcy and ULA is desperate to sell themselves to someone.

>> No.15825396
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15825396

LMAO

Will he respond? Can they even do anything like that?

>> No.15825398

>>15825378
It is not really a slingshot, but in theory they could enter orbit and then change the orbit to change their trajectory, like awaiting an alignment, doing plane changes and lowering the periapsis before a final burn at periapsis to take advantage of the oberth effect and head off to their target.

Or something like multiple gravity assists on the same body. There are ideas that could sort of make what they said work, but it is TV, I am not surprised if they just got something wrong.

>> No.15825401
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15825401

Russia renamed its ambitious satellite program after Putin misspoke its name
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https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/10/russia-renamed-its-ambitious-satellite-program-after-putin-misspoke-its-name/
> It was always abundantly clear that the leader of the Russian space corporation Roscosmos from 2018 to 2022, Dmitry Rogozin, sought to kowtow to Russian President Vladimir Putin. Now we have an anecdote from Putin himself that highlights how much.
>The story concerns a satellite constellation now known as Sfera (or Sphere, in English), a modestly ambitious constellation of 264 satellites. The Sphere constellation is intended to provide broadband Internet service from middle-Earth orbit to Russia and high-resolution Earth observation satellites.
> As is usual with Russian space projects, because they tend to be poorly funded, the timeline for Sphere's deployment has been delayed and its scope reduced. It also underwent an unscheduled name change. Before 2018, this satellite program was known as Ehfir (Ether), a reference to the invisible substance once thought to fill the universe and the medium through which light waves propagated.
> However, that changed in 2018 when Putin publicly announced the program's creation.
> "At first it was called Ehfir," Putin said. "And at one of my public speeches I was talking and said it was Sfera. I arrived at the Kremlin, and the former Roscosmos head greeted me and said, 'Vladimirovich, you said it was project Sfera, Sfera you said. That's what it is, project Sfera.'"
> Roscosmos said it was spending a little less than $100 million on the program in 2021, and about the same amount in 2022. This hardly seems like enough funding to launch an ambitious satellite program. For example, the OneWeb broadband constellation has fewer than 600 satellites, and it likely cost between $5 billion and $10 billion to get into orbit.

>> No.15825403

#starlinkforgaza

>> No.15825404
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>> No.15825405
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15825405

New agreement enables U.S. launches from Australian spaceports, Isar Aerospace Completes 260-Second Hot Fire Test
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https://spacenews.com/new-agreement-enables-u-s-launches-from-australian-spaceports/
> HUNTSVILLE, Ala. — The governments of Australia and the United States have signed an agreement that could allow American rockets to launch from Australian spaceports, although it is unclear how much demand there is for them.
> The U.S. State Department announced Oct. 26 that the two countries signed a technology safeguards agreement (TSA) regarding space launches from Australia. The agreement provides the “legal and technical framework” for American launches from Australian facilities while protecting sensitive technologies.
> Spaceport projects in Australia include the Arnhem Space Centre in the Northern Territory, being developed by Equatorial Launch Australia (ELA), as well as the Whaler’s Way Orbital Launch Complex and Koonibba Test Range in South Australia by Southern Launch.
---
https://europeanspaceflight.com/isar-aerospace-completes-260-second-hot-fire-test/
> German launch startup Isar Aerospace has announced significant progress with the development of its Aquila rocket engine. The company has confirmed that flight versions of the engine are currently being manufactured.
> Isar is developing Spectrum, a 28-metre tall two stage launch vehicle that is designed to carry up to 1,000 kilograms to low Earth orbit. The first stage will be equipped with nine Aquila engines, and the second stage will feature one vacuum-optimized version of the engine.
> On 26 October, the company announced that it had made significant progress with testing its engine at its Esrange test site in Sweden. According to Isar, an Aquila engine was fired for 260 seconds, which is longer than the engine will be fired during a flight. The company has also hot fired a single engine six times without any refurbishment between ignitions.

>> No.15825407

>>15825396
Aren't they supposedly without electricity? I do wish they had internet, seeing bombs dropping on stream was fun.

>> No.15825408

starship will never fly again after the april catastrophe

>> No.15825410

>>15825408
>april
fuck

>> No.15825411

>>15825405
SpaceX already drawing up the Starbase Down Under plans right now

>> No.15825412

>>15825383
>outlines PROGRESS
reusable rocketry is over 3 decades old at this point.

>> No.15825420

>>15825408
it really was frightening to see all those people in danger

>> No.15825425

>>15825420
you mean ocelots right? it was the ocelots that were in danger

>> No.15825427

>>15825408
>>15825410
THAT WAS IN APRIL??

>> No.15825434

Still waiting for ai krystal pix

>> No.15825439

>>15825378
If you're inside the star's atmosphere where it's dense enough to get lift and you're not instantly vaporized (which is blatant scifi but whatever) then you can actually gain speed with a powered aerogravity assist. The only bad math part in the maneuver is assuming more loops around the star is faster - peak dV gain is at one full 360 degree loop. Powered Aerogravity Assists work with planets as well and justify interplanetary spaceplanes.

But this is probably Star Trek you're talking about which was written well before the math on Powered Aerogravity Assists was published so they were just making shit up.

>> No.15825451
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15825451

https://twitter.com/DimaZeniuk/status/1717952367482867733
> Incredible view of @Starlink
satellites gracefully passing through the night sky.
>Truly breathtaking! @elonmusk

>> No.15825452
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15825452

https://twitter.com/cnunezimages/status/1717649873367953459
> - Image Taken: : October 25, 2023

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15825454

https://twitter.com/cnunezimages/status/1717721945452548164
> 365 days ago - Image Taken: October 26, 2022

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15825455

https://twitter.com/cnunezimages/status/1717632388937777214
> XXX - Image Taken: October 25, 2023

>> No.15825457
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15825457

Got this email now, IM-1 delayed to January

>> No.15825475

>>15825425
There's maybe a hundred ocelots left in the US. If you compare that to the more than 300million people living there, a single ocelot death is comparable to more than 300k dead mutts.

>> No.15825478

>>15825475
Thats 3 million per dead ocelot retard and the US population is closer to 400m. Go back to elementary school.

>> No.15825488
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15825488

>>15825374
>ABL
containerization btfo

>> No.15825491

>>15825488
Autistic Butt Lickers

>> No.15825494

>>15825475
wow that's 100 9/11s

>> No.15825511

>>15825455
look at how bad the craftsmanship is on that. iamgine people thinking this will replace shuttle.

>> No.15825516

>>15825475
Isn't that because the ocelot's range has always been south of the border and there never has been a large population in the US, just small numbers in border states.

Ocelots are cool. So I don't want them gone hope things work out for the small population of them there.

>> No.15825519

>>15825457
Would've launched at almost the same time as Peregrine, likely constrained by DSN time

>> No.15825520

>>15825396
after all the Ukraine shit, they handed over military control of Starlink to the US gov so he's not going to get involved in any of this anymore
which is good because Mossad would 100% kill him

>> No.15825522

>>15825411
Abos will never allow it.

>> No.15825525

>>15824769
nasa likes painting things white
thermal management is a possibility. Mars starships are so far down the line compared to the HLS starship that the realism of depictions is irrelevant to reality

>> No.15825527

>>15825488
the point of ABL's rocket is it doesn't need an existing launch pad, that is why the USSF is quietly supporting them

>> No.15825528

>>15825407
yeah because Israel has been giving them free water and electricity for years, and they are bums who won't pay for it

>> No.15825531

>>15825408
hullo the nullo would squeal in delight

>> No.15825535

>>15825475
>There's maybe a hundred ocelots left in the US.
Yes, because it's the fringe edge of the Mexican ocelot population, and most of them know better than to cross the border. Being on the other side of a border does not make it another species.

>> No.15825562

>>15825528
Oy very the chutzpah of those goyim wanting essential services after we stuffed them into an open air prison.

>> No.15825570

>>15825455
I am angry. Angry about tiles.

>> No.15825587

>>15825562
The place looked pretty nice for a prison

>> No.15825588

>>15825570
WHY!?!

>> No.15825612

https://twitter.com/FccSpace/status/1718014742294335768

FCC license. Still no FAA license.

>> No.15825631

>>15825612
FCC license means literally nothing stop posting it we go through this every month I swear

>> No.15825637

>>15825612
NICE
LAUNCH CONFIRMED SOON

>> No.15825641

>>15825631
it confirns launch NET december 5th

>> No.15825644

>>15825641
15th

>> No.15825645

>>15825644
35th

>> No.15825646

>>15825522
They don't own Australia

>> No.15825647
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15825647

Beat the shit from Moona bunnies

>> No.15825648

>>15825645
stomach hurt

>> No.15825652

>>15825494
kek, at least someone got the joke
I hope my children and I can die for ocelot in the near future

>> No.15825654

>>15825522
>400,000 years to invent a stick
>10 minutes to uninvent manned spaceflight

>> No.15825659

>>15825641
Not NET, but rather sequential license from FCC. The current one is still good for a while.

>> No.15825663

>>15825646
You have no idea how bad things are here

>> No.15825686

>#starlinkforgaze 3.1M

>> No.15825689
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15825689

>>15825522
you love to see it

>> No.15825699

>>15825689
>WoKKKeists
He's lost it

>> No.15825701

>>15825562
maybe if they didn't do suicide attacks constantly they wouldn't have to be in a prison

>> No.15825706

>>15825699
he is right
woke people are extremely racist, its just racism of low expectations but still racism
"you are too fucking stupid to follow the rules or have the same standards so we will make new ones just for you"
they treat minorities like how you treat retarded people

>> No.15825709

>>15825457
AAAAAAAA MY DOGE-1 MISSION PLEASE

>> No.15825711

>>15825699
>>15825689
I'm worried that Zubrin will die soon. it came to me in a dream, and he's 70+ and clearly not too healthy judging by his high cholesterol skin.

>> No.15825726

>>15825641
Stupid newfag it doesnt confirm shit its an AUTOMATIC renewal that we've been through EVERY GOD DAMN MONTH. Shut the fuck up.

>> No.15825744

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23starlinkforgaza&src=trend_click&vertical=trends

>> No.15825753

>>15825699
zubs is full of shtetlkeit cringe

>> No.15825770

>>15824726
it's less ugly than the old yellow pics but it's still the ugliest stellar body in the system

>> No.15825790

>>15825689
God damn it Zubrin, do not get involved in the stupid culture war bullshit

>> No.15825801

>>15825701
True they should just roll over and let the jews continue to steal their land

>> No.15825842

>>15825801
shouldnt have lost every war then lmao

>> No.15825843

Gaza has a thriving aerospace industry. Sure, so far they’ve only built sounding rockets, but I’m sure if they keep trying eventually they’ll reach orbit. They just have to keep shooting for the stars and missing.

>> No.15825846
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15825846

>> No.15825859

>>15825843
They're going to need to steal some really big irrigation pipes if they ever want to start putting payloads into orbit.

Still, I can't help but cheer for anyone who's working to pursue a passion for rocketry. Shine on, you wild jihadis.

>> No.15825880

>>15825846
>filename
I wanna know what Bing AI would make of that, before the nofunallowed nerf

>> No.15825891

>>15825309FUCKINGFAGGOTSTOPUSINGWHITESPACEREEEEEEEALSO\nISTHEDEVILSINVENTION

>> No.15825897

>>15825689
REAL
TORCH NIGGERS WITH NUCLEAR SALT WATER ROCKETS

>> No.15825917
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15825917

Fuck Earthers, fuck claim jumpers, fuck scavvies.

>> No.15825928

>>15825522
Well the voice just got rejected so clearly aussies dont give a shit about those primates lol

>> No.15825956

>>15825385
whats with these shitty low effort articles from berger?

>> No.15825958
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15825958

>>15825689
is there no room at existing telescope sites in hawaii?

>> No.15825962

>>15825689
And NASAcels named countless TNOs and other objects with h*waiian names regardless of their attrition

>> No.15826017
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15826017

>>15825958
There's plenty of room, but polynesian islander NIMBYs are even worse than white mainland ones.

>> No.15826026

>>15826017
hate these people so muuch

"muh sacred mountain"

Fuck off

>> No.15826042

>>15826017
Chuck a grenade at em

>> No.15826052

>>15826017
Topkek what is that flag

>> No.15826060

>>15826052
Hawaiian state flag flown upside down because these luddites are physically incapable of respecting the one thing that brought them civilization. They should all be deported to a reservation on the bottom of the ocean where they're forced to mine magnesium for a living.

>> No.15826116

>>15826060
>Hawaiian state flag
>Has union jack on it

????

>> No.15826128

>>15826116
Yes.

>> No.15826133

>>15826116
>>15826026
>>15825859
Gay spacing fuck off

>> No.15826135

>

Gay spacing fuck off

What did he mean by this

>> No.15826226

Anon told me we were gonna get a launch license today. What happened?

>> No.15826230

>>15826226
I'll tell you. But first, you might want to buy this bridge...

>> No.15826249

Xeeting at the Fish And Wildlife Service that they should suck my nigger

>> No.15826251

Dont sleep on Blue Origin

>> No.15826256

>>15824769
Some starship have black side, it's not a paint but black thermal tiles. The ship will be entering atmosphere using this side of ship. Moon starship won't be entering any atmosphere so no black tiles here.

>> No.15826273

>>15826249
Your nigger? Where do you live that you can still purchase farming equipment?

>> No.15826307

>>15824863
Noooo you can't just distribute water around the area surrounding the launch sitee!!!!

>> No.15826308

>>15824939
alright that lander looks extremely kino. And at this point it seems like it may land on Moon before SS

>> No.15826318

>>15826026
There isn't an inch of Hawaii that isn't considered sacred, but the mountains had particular significance

Anyway though they might protest using Hawaiian culture and traditions as the cause, it's really more about how the US government has repeatedly mistreated the islands over the years. They screwed up in massive enough ways that literally any development is now automatically opposed. Zubrin might be enraged but these are people nursing grudges hundreds of years old. The question is how do you even get through to someone who has been raised from birth on real tangible evidence of how outsiders damaged Hawaii? They don't want anything disturbing the landscape. The whole argument over the thing is a mess.

>> No.15826326

>>15825689
Bet Zubrin wouldn't like a Telescope being built on Temple mount.

>> No.15826327

>>15826026
Ok, let's put technoshit everywhere people really like, Mt Rushmore, Everest, Uluru, Kailash, Uluru. Actually wait let's not do that and put them in space where they belong. Fuck abos but fuck ground based astonomer faggots even more.

>> No.15826330

>>15826326
Very antisemitic post

>> No.15826333

Or let's put the in places noone cares about like the Atacama desert. In space as well.

>> No.15826336

>>15826330
Bet that's what he would call anyone that proposed it, he's really a hypocrite. Anyone has site where they wouldn't like a telescopes because of religious, cultural or aesthetic reason, including hypocrite Zubrin

>> No.15826346
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15826346

Mars after we nuke the poles

>> No.15826358

>>15826346
Go back popsci faggot

>> No.15826360

>musk now posting /pol/ images on twitter

>> No.15826369

>>15826360
>posting this without posting a screenshot

>> No.15826373
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15826373

>>15826369
This, not to mention the image is wrong.

>> No.15826375

>>15826373
Yeah there's probably not that many bases.

>> No.15826387

>>15826373
>>15826375
No bases in Afghanistan. None of the points shown in Pakistan are US bases. They might have been used for logistics flights etc. during sand wars. etc.

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15826389

>>15826375
So true sister, I can't believe they would spread such disinformation.

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>>15826346
it's going to look like one of those hideous artificial lakes

>> No.15826402

>>15826318
ignore them

>> No.15826403
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15826403

>>15826395
I like artificial reservoirs

>> No.15826404
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15826404

picture taken from space

>> No.15826405

>>15826389
>FOB Shank Afghanistan
I guess the surrounded narrative is harder to pull off when there is nothing to the north or north east. Any hostile action also requires assent from the host country. You think they can just use these bases as they see fit.

>> No.15826413

>>15826405
>when there is nothing to the north or north east

Ah yes, Iran has great relations with Turkmenistan LOL. Afghanistan has what military exactly? Some rifles and busted out hummers? As far as consent for military operations go, let's see. Saudi Arabia, UAE and Kuwait? The goodness of good goy oil salesmen? Hilarious.

>> No.15826427

>>15826413
what are you trying to say

>> No.15826434

>>15826427
I'm sorry they never taught you to read in school

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15826440

>>15825383
Reminder that reusability is a meme unless you combine it with economies of scale, which Ariane will never have due to the small number of launches/year and the EU being a colony of the US.

>> No.15826461

>>15826403
not a single tree to retreat from the sun

>> No.15826498

>>15826461
Yeah it's a desert. I can see a few beaches that are in shade from the hills though

>> No.15826504

>>15826498
In deserts you will still find trees growing near rivers, creeks and natural lakes.

>> No.15826507

>Starlink will support connectivity to internationally recognized aid organizations in Gaza.
https://nitter.net/elonmusk/status/1718224153474388433#m

its over. spacex is dead.

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15826527

>>15826504
hardly any trees at the bottom of the grand canyon

>> No.15826547

>>15826507
giving them just to aid organizations seems pretty prudent and not giving it for free
last time it was just pointless grief and people become entitled

>> No.15826604

>>15826507
Anyone got the Nationalize SpaceX meme?

>> No.15826611

>>15826547
Entitlement from communist is too high.

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15826615

?

>> No.15826617

>>15826615
balls

>> No.15826618

>>15826373
>wtf, outposts on a geopolitical border? This means war!!!

>> No.15826628

>>15826413
>Afghanistan has what military exactly
Nobody tell him

>> No.15826667

>>15826615
Yellow

>> No.15826676
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Cancel MSR
Ares I-X flight 14 years ago

>> No.15826686

>>15826403
This is why I like terraforming. It just has its own feel. Stuff like this is why we should be doing it everywhere we can.

>> No.15826687
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>>15826686

>> No.15826703

>>15825689
I can't wait to see him holding a tiki torch and marching around by himself with Kali Yuga blaring in the background

>> No.15826707

>>15826403
I bet this is pretty similar to earth-like planets that have earth-like temps, water, and plates - but no life.

>> No.15826712

>>15826676
>Ares 1: 94 meters
>SLS block 1: 98 meters
That gangly-ass rocket is almost as tall as SLS

>> No.15826716

>>15826667
You have to stare at it then look at something white.

>> No.15826719

>>15825689
Race is the foundation of identity though.

Stupid to engage in petty earther fights like this when 8 meter starship telescopes are going to space soon.

>> No.15826724

What are the odds of China overtaking NASA?
Unless SLS is either cancelled or NASA starts looking for a commercial alternative, this rocket is going to be a massive bottleneck for the Artemis program.

>> No.15826728
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>>15826724
Unlikely, the Chinese starship won’t be flying until 2033, with full reuse in the 2040s. Imagine what a decade long head start would look like?

>> No.15826733

>>15826724
pretty much zero percent

>> No.15826734

>>15826728
Okay, but China is going to use LM10 for their Lunar program, not the Starship copy.

>> No.15826737

>>15826724
At best, China could hope to place several chinamen packed into a shoebox onto the Moon at roughly the same time that HLS Starship is landing on the Moon with crew.

It's kinda like the SLS vs Starship race, where no matter who launches first, Starship wins.

>> No.15826739

>>15826724
SLS and Gateway are not bottlenecks, I have learnt to love them both. SLS can send in one launch what it would take a dozen starships to do, and Gateway is a great way to nurture Starship to maturity just like how the ISS nurtured Dragon and Falcon.
Nasa should continue using expendable deep space capable launchers for now, because expendable launchers do have more capability for a given size.

>> No.15826740

>>15826724
Just NASA? 100%
NASA + SpaceX? 0%

>> No.15826743

>>15826739
go back to twitter

>> No.15826749

>>15826326
False equivalence. There are no archeological sites in the TMT footprint. inb4 "because they didn't want to build on it". There is an ancient quarry up there, they didn't give a shit about using it as a resource.

>>15825699
Next level cringe. This bullshit is finally starting to cool off to the point TMT might start moving again, fanning the embers like this will not help.

>> No.15826751

>>15826743
>*X

>> No.15826756

>>15826739
>1 launch every 2 years
>$4 billion per launch
>not a bottleneck
NASA has never needed SLS. FH and the rest of commercial rockets are more than enough.

>> No.15826762

>>15826707
I wonder what Titan's lakes look like

>> No.15826764

>>15826615
gold plated btw

>> No.15826767

>>15826756
SLS can launch about once a year. Thats perfect cadence for a trickle of people to the lunar surface and a barebones lunar gateway, giving plenty of demand for Starship to develop and take over lunar operations. If you dont see it then you dont see it. But what I see is total Musk victory.

>> No.15826768

>>15826762
imagine the smell

>> No.15826774

>>15826768
imagine the cold

>> No.15826775

>>15826767
>SLS can launch about once a year.
That's still pathetic. The bare minimum should be Saturn V peak cadence. NASA won't do shit if the best you can do is one manned mission a year.

>> No.15826781

>>15826318
Nakba

>> No.15826793

>>15826775
well we all know in a perfect world NASA would Starshipmax and pay for Mars colonisation, etc. but in political reality with lobbyists and corruption ghettoizing the lobbyists and SRB maxis to one part of the scheme whilst leaving big areas for starship to fill is the best outcome

>> No.15826795

Starship is the bottleneck for Artemis

>> No.15826799

The FAA is the bottleneck for humanity

>> No.15826816

>>15826795
Everyone buy this faggot a vacation ticket under the name 'trolling outside of /b/'

>> No.15826818

>>15826768
Methane doesnt inately smell like braps we've discussed this like 50 times already

>> No.15826819

>>15826795
blue jarvis is happening, blue lander ishappening. is starship even happening?

>> No.15826822

>>15826816
NTA but it unironically is right now. Artemis is ready for everything apart from landing which is the job of starship.

>> No.15826825

>>15826822
starship could fly a successful HLS demonstrator mission today and they still wouldn't land humans for artemis 2 or get artemis 3 out on schedule

>> No.15826826

>>15826775
The bare minimum for a shuttle-derived launch system should have been four flights per year, with an easy ramp up to at least six once the program hit its stride.

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>>15826346

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>> No.15826834

>15826822
Dont feed this samefag the (You)s he wants right now. An analysis was recently done that said Artemis and SLS were behind schedule and overbudget. https://www.space.com/nasa-sls-rocket-artemis-moon-plans-unaffordable-gao-report
https://www.businessinsider.com/nasa-sls-mega-rocket-unaffordable-costs-hit-20-billion-2023-9?amp
https://www.engadget.com/amp/the-morning-after-nasas-sls-rocket-is-already-6-billion-over-budget-111519603.html
https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-23-105609
>However, the baseline costs and schedules for this future work have not been established despite GAO's nearly decade-long concerns, according to the report, which was put together after interviewing NASA officials and reviewing the agency's current activities, SLS documentation and future plans.
>"NASA does not plan to measure production costs to monitor the affordability of the SLS program," the report states.
>A 2021 revision in NASA's policy had allowed the agency to stick to five-year production and operation cost estimates after the SLS first demonstrated its capability, and those estimates fit within NASA's overall budget. But the estimates cannot replace official cost baselines and are "poor tools to measure cost performance over time," the GAO said in the new report.
Enjoy your vacation negro.

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>We will be the first thing to really be [ready]

>> No.15826841 [DELETED] 

>>15826834
orion has flown around the moon, where is the starship lunar flyby. oh wait, dont bother because anyone who has a slightly different opinion is a troll.

>> No.15826843

>On this stage last year I said that we will be launching in 2024 and that hasn't changed. New Glenn development has progressed a lot.
>Blue Origin currently has 4 boosters well in production.
Knock knock Musk

>> No.15826850

>>15826834
Huh, curious this only began under biden. very interesting

>> No.15826853

>>15826843
Starship had booster static fire 2 years ago

>> No.15826855 [DELETED] 

>>15826834
being this triggered over the fact that SLS if flying while SS isn't. And it still has to do a landing test on the fucking moon. Are the life support systems ready? Probably not.

>> No.15826857

>>15826739
That is retarded
Number of launched is irrelevant, what matters is total cost and cadence
If it was 100 launches per 1 SLS but cheaper and more often, it would still make sense to do the 100 launched

>> No.15826863

>>15826857
Dumb faggot stop feeding that tranny (You)s and use the arrow next to the post number. See >>15826816

>> No.15826868

>>15826853
Completely unrelated and yet starship put exactly the same payload in orbit as new glenn

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>>15826868
>>15826855
>>15826850
>>15826843
>>15826841
>>15826822
>>15826795
Sametranny

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>>15826873
uh oh, you shit your pants :)

>> No.15826915

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1718320289921266123


Dual launch tomorrow from SpaceX. One in California and other in Florida.

>> No.15826921

>>15826915
stop with this spacing.

>> No.15826959

>>15826921
newsposter can't help it

>> No.15826969

>>15826959
Newsanon gets a pass but that last one clearly wasnt newsanon copy pasting for us so its just a fag who wont adapt.

>> No.15826971

>>15826969
It's wild that you think anyone "needs a pass"

>> No.15826978

>>15826873
why the frustration? Just embrace the fact that SS is the bottleneck. Doesn't mean it's better than any other proposed lander

>> No.15826983

>>15826915
Your post is fine. Ignore the schizos

>> No.15826987

>>15826978
>>15826971
>>15826969
>>15826959
>>15826921
What is the matter with you people

>> No.15826989

>>15826987
Slow day, I guess.

>> No.15826991

>>15824409
So what exactly is the reason to wait out for months on end and only initiate talks with FAA the day after the congressional hearings?

Is it not an indication that the regulation hostage situation is happening?

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>>15826987
Go back

>> No.15827008
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Does someone know any good books about hydro-electric plants with lots of data and statistics? Lately it's become my autistic obsession

>> No.15827011

>>15826843
Where and when is this from?

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>>15827011
Blue Origin SVP Jarrett Jones, 11 Sep 2023
World Satellite Business Week, rocket launch panel

>> No.15827033
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WE ARE BACK

>> No.15827038

>>15827033
FTS FULLY INSTALLED??

>> No.15827050

>>15827038
ITS ABOUT TO LAUNCH

>> No.15827055

>>15827033
How many times are they going to take off and put back this fucking thing

>> No.15827057

>>15827033
holy shit. they would only do this if license was immenent!

>> No.15827058

>>15827038
>>15827050
Dumbfuck newfag theyve taken off the HSR like 6 tumes now this means nothing AND thats not even where FTS goes. Go back

>> No.15827062

What are you space weirdos doing here on Saturday?

>> No.15827063

>>15827058
you say that, but nsf doesnt get excited fir nothing. they have insiders telling them what's happening behind the scenes on L2

>> No.15827064
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Jeff Bezos shows off new Moon lander design for NASA,
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https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/10/jeff-bezos-shows-off-new-moon-lander-design-for-nasa/
> Blue Origin has unveiled a mock-up of the Blue Moon lander it says will be ready to fly to the Moon within the next three years as a precursor to human landings on a larger vehicle, perhaps at the end of the decade.
> This is the Mark 1 variant of the Blue Moon lander. It's designed to deliver up to 3 metric tons (about 6,600 pounds) of cargo anywhere on the lunar surface. Blue Origin revealed the design on Friday.
>"Blue Moon Mark 1 is a single-launch, lunar cargo lander that remains on the surface and provides safe, reliable, and affordable access to the lunar environment," Blue Origin wrote on its website. The company is developing the Mark 1 as a predecessor to the larger Mark 2 lander, which will ferry astronauts to and from the lunar surface under contract to NASA, which selected Blue Origin as its second human-rated lunar lander contractor in May, alongside SpaceX.
> “We’re building our landers, both our Mark 1 and our Mark 2, to enable global landing capability on the Moon, day or night," said John Couluris, senior vice president of lunar transportation at Blue Origin.
> With its $3.4 billion fixed-price Human Landing System (HLS) contract with NASA, Blue Origin will be responsible for transporting astronauts between lunar orbit and the surface of the Moon, then back into space, on the Artemis V mission. This mission is officially scheduled for no sooner than 2029, but is likely to slip into the 2030s.

>> No.15827067

>>15827062
Same thing as you

>> No.15827069

>>15827057
No you fucking retard newfag theyve done this a bunch of fucking times now since it was first installed this isnt even a new thing. FTS doesnt even go there its just them making modifications around that area as they have done MANY times now.

>> No.15827071

>>15827062
I've got the ruggers on in the background rn. (Yes, I know sportwatching is for retards, I guess I am one)

>> No.15827072
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>>15827064
>Blue Origin's HLS architecture is similar to that of SpaceX in that it also requires refueling in space. But Blue Moon uses liquid hydrogen as a fuel, while SpaceX's Starship burns liquid methane. Blue Origin will also launch its landers aboard the company's New Glenn rocket, which is not expected to launch until late next year at the earliest. For each human-rated lander mission, Blue Origin needs three New Glenn launches—one to send the lander to an orbit around the Moon, then two more launches to carry parts for a Lockheed Martin-built refueling tug to fill the lander's tanks in lunar orbit.
> Blue Origin's Mark 1 lander will first fly to the Moon on a demonstration mission, with additional flights planned to carry science payloads to the lunar surface. The first two Mark 1 missions are scheduled to fly no later than 2026, according to Aviation Week.
>"We are a hydrogen-based vehicle," Couluris said. "We do that not only because it’s one of the most energetic combinations of propellants, but it also allows us to provide our reaction control system propellants, and our power."
>"So we utilize fuel cells for the night side, and solar arrays for the day side, but eventually we look to evolve that to regenerative fuel cells so that we’ll start electrolysis of water."
> The long-term vision is to tap into ice on the Moon to generate hydrogen and liquid oxygen rocket propellants. At best, that's still a decade or two away from happening at a level meaningful for producing rocket fuel.
>“If we can make hydrogen a storable propellant, with zero boil-off systems, we’re now not only unlocking lunar resources but the potential to open things such as NTP (Nuclear Thermal Propulsion) or other propulsion technologies that go beyond," Couluris said.

>> No.15827073

>>15827071
same

>> No.15827075

>>15827063
Yes they fucking do how do you think they make their money? L2 doesnt mean shit in this conversation either since nothing was even mentioned about launch date in the tweet. Stop shilling for NSF faggot /sfg/ is not your personal paypig site.

>> No.15827077

>>15827064
Blue Origin
Blue Jarvis
Blue Shepherd
Blue Gleen
Blue Reef
Blue Armstrong
Blue Lindbergh
Blue Solar Panel
Blue Ring
Blue Moon
Blue Tug
Blue Boat (sold)
Blue Engine 1,2,3,4,3U,4SE
Is there anything Blue hasnt accomplished? the amount of products they have blows everyone else away. Huge contribution to industry

>> No.15827078

>>15827069
ok relax buster i think its a little more real this time. i have a feeling

>> No.15827083

>>15827072
jfc can no one just do a proper lander these days?
they got the first part of it already (Orion)
whats so hard about the lander

>> No.15827084

>>15827078
Yeah you always have a feeling, a feeling that launch is always two weeks away. Fuck off.

>> No.15827085

>>15827075
wtf does L2 has anything to do with a launch date? spacex engineers probably told nsf this action means launch soon

>> No.15827090

>>15827084
i hate you

>> No.15827091

>>15827069
that can't be, I'm sure a launch is happening today

>> No.15827093

>>15827064
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the new democrat NASA head has never once visited SpaceX right?

>> No.15827094

>>15827062
halloween party later, rn just waiting

>> No.15827095
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Intuitive Machines delays first lander mission to January,
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https://spacenews.com/intuitive-machines-delays-first-lander-mission-to-january/
> HUNTSVILLE, Ala. — Intuitive Machines announced Oct. 27 that is has pushed back the launch of its first lunar lander mission by two months to mid-January.
>In a statement issued after the markets closed, the company said its IM-1 mission is now scheduled to launch on a Falcon 9 in a “multi-day” window that opens Jan. 12 from Kennedy Space Center’s Launch Complex 39A. The mission had been scheduled to launch in a six-day window that opened Nov. 16.
> The company did not elaborate on the reasons for the delay. However, executives warned at a media event Oct. 3 that “pad congestion” at LC-39A could delay their launch. The mission has to launch from that pad, rather than nearby Space Launch Complex 40, because only LC-39A is equipped to fuel the lander with methane and liquid oxygen propellants on the pad shortly before liftoff.
> IM-1 is targeted to land seven days after launch in the vicinity of Malapert A, a crater in the south polar region of the moon. The spacecraft will operate for nearly two weeks, until the end of the lunar day deprives the lander of power.
> The delay means that the first CLPS mission scheduled to launch is now Astrobotic’s Peregrine. That lander is scheduled to launch Dec. 24 on the inaugural flight of United Launch Alliance’s Vulcan Centaur. Astrobotic said Oct. 27 that Peregrine has left its Pittsburgh headquarters and its on its way to Florida for pre-launch processing.

>> No.15827096

>>15827093
might have but I don't remember an instance
plenty of visits to BO and ULA though

>> No.15827101

>>15827093
>>15827096
You people are insane

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>>15827093
Only some low level officials and if I remember correctly, it was posted only on facebook.

>> No.15827105

https://youtu.be/l4JY9D9P6Mw?si=SiMMGGB8dHaxJtzg
billionaire space race
bezos vs branson vs musk

>> No.15827106

>>15827101
so it happened?

>> No.15827108

>>15827072
why the drastic departure from the blue ball architecture

>> No.15827109

>>15827105
Funny, but I unironically feel like Bezos could be back in it. New CEO + spacex being at a standstill developmentally means there is a small chance we may actually see the tortoise overtake the hare.

>> No.15827110

>>15827093
I mean he couldnt say the word "SpaceX" for an entire year after HLS won.

>> No.15827116

>>15827063
>>15827085
faggot bait. kill yourself nigger

>> No.15827119

>>15827116
Tsmt

>> No.15827183

>>15827119
Is this a new "you're a 1" type of shit you're trying to force?

>> No.15827188

>>15827183
What the fuck are you talking about? It means 'this so much this' this is a known acronym unless youre a newfag, get over yourself.

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>> No.15827196

>>15827194
I don't know why, but this made me chuckle.

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>>15827194
Is this a weight distribution/stress model or something?

>> No.15827209

>>15827194
Rover trukknuts

>> No.15827221

>>15827093
>>15827110
what's with all the animosity against SpaceX from the Biden admin?
Like what did they actually do wrong?

>> No.15827223

>>15827188
It's more of a reddit thing to be honest. Are you perhaps one of those disgusting, abhorrent, uncouth, and shouldn't even be considered a human, pieces of shit? (Don't answer because we all know the answer is yes)

>> No.15827224

>>15827194
radioactive robo-brap

>> No.15827233

>>15827221
I said it even before Biden was elected that it would harm SpaceX/Elon/Tesla. Thats because Biden admin's chief financial donation head is a Tesla short seller, Jim Chanos. Look it up. He and Biden are old friends/buddies. Thats on top of Biden parroting "tax all billionaires" ideology.

This led to Biden trying to kill Tesla multiple times in multiple ways. By trying to create a tax credit system that gives GM/Ford/Stellantis ~$5000 extra in tax credit, by trying to shutdown Tesla's only factory for few months during the pandemic, by stalling SpaceX with regulations, by launching a dozen or so lawsuits against Musk's companies now.

>> No.15827239

>>15827194
I've seen very little data from RIMFAX, what is JPL hiding?

>>15827199
Ground penetrating radar radiation distribution

>> No.15827240

>>15827233
Its not just Jim Chanos, there's also that other Tesla short seller woman that became head of NHTSA a while back. She had personally threatened to punch Musk, works for Tesla's rival company and was then put in charge to oversee Tesla by Biden admin.

>> No.15827243

>>15827223
>YOURE FROM REDDIT EVEN DOE THERES LITERALLY NOBODY ON THAT SITE THAT USES TSMT
You couldve just accepted the fact that youre new and moved on instead of trying to pretend like youre an oldfag.
>YOURE NOT DENYING YOURE FROM REDDIT THEREFORE IM RIGHT
Reddit and twitter immigrants are a serious issue for maintaining /sfg/ culture, but screeching reddit at anyone who makes you mad is just retarded negro behavior. Im one of the few anons here who constantly tells any faggot who posts reddit links to go back, have YOU been doing that? Because theres usually only two other anons with me on that.

>> No.15827244 [DELETED] 

>>15827116
enjoy your vacation

>> No.15827245
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What?

>> No.15827247

>>15827233
its partly that but I think the bigger reason is just that Musks companies threaten the status quo and entrenched interests, anything from dealerships to the shitload of legacy suppliers that are kept alive through SLS money from congress, to top it off lately Musk has been vocal about free speech and actually done stuff about this
just this latest thing means he is hated by the left (on top of being a billionaire)

>> No.15827248

>>15827244
Why are you announcing a report?

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Something went wrong

>> No.15827256

>>15827252
The left became woke and woke got taken over by elites. The marriage meant the woke now support WW3.

>> No.15827258

>>15827243
who are you quoting?

>> No.15827267

>>15827256
And the right became communist bootlickers, wild times.

>> No.15827277

>>15827267
The right became free speech activist(against censorship) and anti-war (for the wrong reason, reactionary to biden getting into Ukraine).

Whatever the reasons maybe, its still the right reaction.

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>> No.15827283 [DELETED] 

>>15827248
Why are you announcing a report?

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>>15827077

>> No.15827328 [DELETED] 

>>15827267
at least both sides agree to support our greatest ally

>> No.15827331

>>15827328
See >>15827280 and then shut your fat gob

>> No.15827336
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Spaceflight?

>> No.15827343

>>15827336
We should make a balloon that goes to space

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Soon

>> No.15827356

>>15827077
they're impressive, i'll say that much

>> No.15827360

>>15827348
Can it be fucked?

>> No.15827363

>>15827309
got you to respond filthy wojak poster

>> No.15827365

BO fan wants to fuck Japanese flying robot /:

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>>15827349

>> No.15827382

>>15827008
>search for the word "hydroelectric" in library genesis
>dozens of technical books on the topic

inb4 I want to be spoon fed
It's not a hydroelectric thread, nigger

>> No.15827384

>>15827382
enjoy your vacation

>> No.15827395

>>15827384
>help a retard find technical information on /sci/
>?????
>get banned

Your vacation shtick has turned you into Patrick S Tomlinson

>> No.15827397

>>15827008
Sure, here are some resources that might be helpful:

Global hydropower industry- statistics & facts | Statista1: This resource provides a comprehensive overview of the global hydropower industry, including key insights and detailed statistics on hydropower and renewable energy capacity worldwide from 2008 to 2021, renewable electricity generation as a share of total generation, and global hydropower installed capacity from 2014 to 2021.

Hydropower generation - Our World in Data2: This resource provides charts and data on various aspects of hydropower generation, including annual change in hydropower generation, annual change in renewable energy generation, and annual change in solar and wind energy generation.

Hydropower Plants and Power Systems - Springer3: This book reports on a set of methods for analysis of dynamic behavior and control of hydropower plants. It includes theoretical analysis, numerical simulations, and on-site measurements carried out on eight hydropower plants in both Sweden and China.

Please note that while these resources provide a wealth of data and statistics, they may not be as comprehensive or detailed as a dedicated book on the subject. You might want to check your local library or online bookstores for more specialized books on hydro-electric plants.

>> No.15827399

>>15827395
Who are you quoting?

>> No.15827400

>>15827382
Thank I downloaded one already
>>15827397
thanks I'll check all these out, they sound very interesting

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>> No.15827419

>>15827397
based AI poster

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>> No.15827423

>>15826843
>Blue Origin currently has 4 boosters well in production

May we see them?

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>>15827418
is it actually possible to place the entirety of mars in the magnetotail of an artificial satellite at L1

>> No.15827426

>>15827423
trade secret bigot. Not every company is ready to dissolve their advantage by building rockets in the open.

>> No.15827427

>>15827422
clear love

>> No.15827428

>>15827422
>vulcan heavy
this cant happen

>> No.15827431

>>15827425
There is no evidence radiation is dangerous

>> No.15827434

>>15827426
*by building rockets

>> No.15827437

>>15827431
i think it destroys seeds or something

>> No.15827441

>>15824769
It's white because the moon is white

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>>15827423
Here's some parts

>> No.15827446

>>15827443
for me it's the 2 dudes sitting there vibing

>> No.15827449

>>15827399
It's not a quotation, you fucking moron
It's also not a paraphrase or a strawman
You can't even troll right
You should hang yourself immediately

>> No.15827455

>>15827349
Shuttle was so gorgeous.

>> No.15827456

>>15824769
They could paint it black and it make no difference.

>> No.15827458

>>15827441
will the mars one be red?

>> No.15827460

>>15827449
This is just nonsense. You're being rude for the sake of it, and are the lowest bottomfeeder of /sfg/

>> No.15827462

>>15827456
Why is it painted at all then?
And surely color hs an impact on heat absorbtion

>> No.15827464

>>15827446
the shitposts don't write themselves

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>>15827462
it's in the nasa requirements

>> No.15827467

>>15827456
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBUFtoC2oj4

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>>15827455
It really was

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This is now a spaceplane thread

>> No.15827473

i think silver starship would be fine to reflect radiation. no point painting

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"Space vandals", a recently released book by an Arianespace employee absolutely seething at American Newspace, this is going to be good

>> No.15827492

>>15827483
is it on libgen? can you upload an ebook?

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https://images.nasa.gov/details/GRC-2023-CM-0245

>> No.15827497

>>15827395
he's just pissed that he got banned yesterday for not being able to stop talking about himself being a degenerate sexual freak

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yikes....

>> No.15827508

>>15827506
new debunk just dropped https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV-PllMwq08

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https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/

two starlink launches coming up
7h and 20h

>> No.15827513

>>15827508
say his name coward: kirk kirkland iv

>> No.15827516

>>15827471
I know this is bait or whatever, bit I've dreamed of fucking gigantic gleaming spaceborne machines with no resemblance to human women. I don't know what happened

>> No.15827518

>>15827516
You and I, we are much alike, but also so very horrifically different.

>> No.15827521

>>15827508
watched some points here and there and its basically an argument from incredulity
for instance, he tried to estimate the number of geo sats starship would take by looking at current geo sat bus sizes
why would you do that? who gives a shit about current geosat bus sizes?
its basically saying "no, that hasn't been done before, so its unrealistic to make assumptions based on that. let me make some very conservative assumptiions. now your rocket is shit"
lol
assuming it doesn't work, then concluding its not going to be viable or make much sense is kind of a given which is basically just an argument from incredulity again, "I don't think you can do that"
what is the point of making hour long videos if that is all it is?

>> No.15827530

>>15827521
an analog would be, say I'm developing a car, one of the first cars
people use horses now
I say the car is going to have these features and so on
then some car skeptic comes along and says no that doesn't sound realistic, lets make some conservative assumptions about your car needing this much feed per day and having to shit this many times a week and so on

>> No.15827538

>>15827521
wow he sure did a fallacy even though saying a fallacy is a mistake actually

>> No.15827539

>>15827530
>>15827521
Looking forward to coming back to these videos and calling them dipshits.

>> No.15827545

>>15827539
or it could always be the other way around, we have to wait and see. Average IQ of starship shills is lower than that of starship skeptics which is worrying

>> No.15827551

>>15827538
the point is not that its a fallacy, the point is that there is no real argument
the fact you can't imagine something happening is not an argument by itself

>> No.15827558

>>15827545
Ok thunderfaggot

>> No.15827564

>>15827545
This is why became a starship skeptic: I grew up. and I grew smarter

>> No.15827573

>>15827564
>in my skepticism of Starship, I am euphoric

>> No.15827577

i like the blue moon

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>>15827577

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>>15827577
It's a nice design. I'm glad they improved on the first proposal

>> No.15827586

>>15827577
you like it up the ass too, huh

>> No.15827587

>>15827558
>getting personally offended even though I didn't mention you
kind of proves the point.

>> No.15827589

>>15827586
you don't like the blue moon?

>> No.15827590

>>15827579
The amount of power shown here by Mr. Bezos is astounding. He could crush that old man at a moment's notice, yet he shows restraint.

>> No.15827594

>>15827583
It's actually a separate lander than the HLS bid lol

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>> No.15827599

>>15827597
even the redditors are getting impatient with musk

>> No.15827618

I thought blue moon was 30 tons to the moonar surface. now it's 3 tons?

>> No.15827620

>>15827618
Look, 2.3 tons is plenty, be happy with the 2 tons they offer

>> No.15827623

>>15827618
I think this is operating without the OTV that Lockheed is supposed to be building. 2 tons isn't bad for New Glenn working on its own.

>> No.15827628

>>15827623
Original Blue Moon was advertized as 30 tons to the surface back in 2019. Bezos himself said Blue had been working on Blue Moon for 3 years at that point. Lockheed not involved, and they hadnt bid for HLS yet

>> No.15827631

>>15827620
just be glad it's not ALPACA with negative payload mass

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>>15827618
oh yeah you are right, its 30 tons for the expendable cargo variant from the unveil 5 months ago according to wikipedia, but its mk2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Moon_(spacecraft)

https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/05/blue-origin-wins-pivotal-nasa-contract-to-develop-a-second-lunar-lander/
https://spacenews.com/nasa-selects-blue-origin-to-develop-second-artemis-lunar-lander/

but actually reading the article, it only talks about 45 tons fully fueled and 16 tons dry mass, nothing about payload in either of these (which probably reference the livestream and press releases)
the ars article doesn't even have the word "payload", in the spacenews article payload is just mentioned with respect to New Glenns payload fairing once in the whole article

> The Blue Moon lander is a revised version of earlier designs released by the company. The lander is 16 meters tall and designed to fit inside the seven-meter payload fairing of Blue Origin’s New Glenn rocket. It has a dry mass of 16 metric tons, and more than 45 metric tons when filled with liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen propellants.

>> No.15827642

>>15827628
you sure about that 30 tons to the surface?

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/09/jeff-bezos-unveils-blue-moon-lunar-lander.html
> The Blue Moon lander can bring 3.6 metric tons to the lunar surface, according to Bezos.

>> No.15827702

A mars flyby mission would be totally fine, actually.

>> No.15827704

>>15827702
A little anticlimactic to just wave as you go by and then come home but yeah, no reason you can't.

>> No.15827706

>>15827704
it would push human spaceflight boundaries without requiring any expensive delay-inducing new technologies

>> No.15827712

>>15827470
Kys skittletard NASA shill

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>>15827712

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>>15827706
Venus flyby too, either one would be cool to see.

>> No.15827715

Is Bezos the heroic owner of that land patch?
And why is Elon suing him for breach of contract? What contract? Isn't the owner simply not selling?
https://youtu.be/Lp_PRZxbsS8?feature=shared&t=563

>> No.15827717

>>15826527
I thought those were ETs lol

>> No.15827728

staging
>>15827727

>>15827727

>>15827727

>> No.15827765

>>15827062
It's sunday. I'm just catching up on my threads before breakfast.