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How do these craft operate?

>> No.15817998

>>15817996
most likely based on trauma

>> No.15818003

>>15817998
where do we even begin?

>> No.15818005

>>15817998
is there an expert on ufos?

>> No.15818007

>2013 Aguadilla Puerto Rico UAP/USO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6s5RwqnnLM
>2013 Aguadilla Puerto Rico UAP Incident: A Detailed Analysis
https://www.explorescu.org/post/2013-aguadilla-puerto-rico-uap-incident-report-a-detailed-analysis
>The Aguadilla airport case (04/25/2013)
https://www.3af.fr/global/gene/link.php?doc_id=4566
>vehicle splits in two, non-local, hyperdimensional

>Green Pyramid UFOs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKsLK_Na7iw

>AARO All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office New Official UFO Videos
>more confirmed ufo videos
https://www.aaro.mil/

>pentagon ufos
>flir, gofast, gimbal
https://www.navair.navy.mil/foia/documents
https://www.navair.navy.mil/foia/sites/g/files/jejdrs566/files/2020-04/1%20-%20FLIR.mp4
https://www.navair.navy.mil/foia/sites/g/files/jejdrs566/files/2020-04/3%20-%20GOFAST.wmv
https://www.navair.navy.mil/foia/sites/g/files/jejdrs566/files/2020-04/2%20-%20GIMBAL.wmv

>border patrol 12 ufo videos
https://www.postapocalypticmedia.com/watch-ufo-videos-border-patrol-uap/
https://www.cbp.gov/document/foia-record/unidentified-aerial-phenomenon

>mass reduction physics, ufo physics
https://www.navair.navy.mil/foia/sites/g/files/jejdrs566/files/document/%5Bfilename%5D/2021-003244%20FINAL%20INERTIAL%20MASS%20REDUCTION%20DEVICE%20%281%29_0.pdf
https://www.navair.navy.mil/foia/sites/g/files/jejdrs566/files/document/%5Bfilename%5D/2022-006587%20FINAL%20VERSION%20Concept%20Papers.pdf
https://www.navair.navy.mil/foia/sites/g/files/jejdrs566/files/document/%5Bfilename%5D/2020-004558%20Patent%20documents_FINAL_0_0.pdf

>> No.15818015

>>15818003
peer recognition/acceptance most likely. but I'm talking out of my ass really

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>>15818015
do we just take our own photographs?

>2023 October - California - UFOs
https://www.reddit.com/r/TechnologyAndAliens/comments/17cjgtx/pink_pearl_ufo/
https://www.reddit.com/r/TechnologyAndAliens/comments/175hr1t/pink_pentagon_ufo/
https://www.reddit.com/r/TechnologyAndAliens/comments/17cjw0p/light_cluster_ufo/
https://www.reddit.com/r/TechnologyAndAliens/comments/176llz3/light_cluster_contrail_ufo/
https://www.reddit.com/r/TechnologyAndAliens/comments/17cknpq/crystal_jellyfish_ufo/

>> No.15818026
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15818026

Dr. Steven Greer seems to know a little bit about the physics.

>Extraterrestrials and the New Cosmology - Dr. Steven Greer
https://sb0396.a2cdn1.secureserver.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/ETandNewCosmology.pdf
>Dr. Steven Greer on Consciousness-Based Technology
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C51vGNJxXYI
>Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind
https://tubitv.com/movies/560920/close-encounters-of-the-fifth-kind-contact-has-begun

It seems like the Gateway Process is involved. Some kind of consciousness as it pertains to quantum physics and electromagnetism.
Some kind of electromagnetic gravitics and zero-point energy, tesla coils and whatnot. Perhaps even more.

>> No.15818028

Related to human levitation and astral projection.

>> No.15818030

>>15817996
I think >>>/x/ will have answers which don't insult your schizophrenia.

>> No.15818031

>>15817996
>these craft
Anon, they are pulse laser induced plasma balls. They're just decoys.

>> No.15818034

>>15818020
>do we just take our own photographs?
depends. just because you recognize it does not mean you have it or even had it at least. you can understand stuff without going through it.
but peer recognition is a spectrum anyway, constantly varies between some healthy lines. can wander out of it, either surplus either lack. I was referring to more extreme cases anyway, not your average experience. people don't usually have strong opinions on UFOs, apart from that "yeah dude would be awesome, makes sense they exist" and that's that, max depth of going into it.

>> No.15818036

>>15818030
where is your scientific curiosity?

>> No.15818037

>>15818031
they appear to be hypercraft
some of them are likely just anti-gravity

>> No.15818050

>>15818036
I'm not a fan of psychiatry, especially if the test subjects aren't aware of it.

>> No.15818053

>>15818050
the pentagon already released the videos
it doesn't get any more official than this

>> No.15818054

>>15818050
why so detrimental to scientific progress?

>> No.15818113

>>15818026
>Dr. Steven Greer seems to know a little bit about the physics.
Well he hides it well because that pdf is pure schizobabble. Despite being the title, he never actually discusses physical cosmology.
>Linear, relative reality and non-local, non-linear reality both simultaneously exist as Reality. Their perception and understanding is wholly dependent on the level of consciousness of the observer. Even physical matter has an aspect of its nature which is non-local, transcendent and conscious.
Word salad. New age dribble.

>> No.15818131

>>15818113
it's still true though, is there a better document?
the gateway process?
>Gateway Process
https://documents2.theblackvault.com/documents/cia/CIA-RDP96-00788R001700210016-5.pdf
>Gateway Process (Complete Document)
https://files.catbox.moe/adi0we.pdf
>Gateway Process Audio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkmtiwyGvys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpGWtOV_mFo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR8QAbRHMOs
>Gateway Process Documentary
https://www.bitchute.com/video/YeQ8QHoWYjCk/
>Gateway Process Overview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9MUXwHoEh4
>Psychotronic Universe
https://ink.university/static/reference/CIA-RDP96-00792R000400330013-4.pdf

>> No.15818133

>>15818113
it's the new laws of physics

>> No.15818290

>>15818031
This.
>t. aerospace engineer
Aliens, antigravity and any other bullshit is there to just muddy the waters and attract schizos to make the subject associated with freaks.
There’s also some other fun stuff in the air but that’s what these things moving in seemingly non-physical ways are. An advanced laser pointer, dumbing it down.

>> No.15818295

>>15818290
you are incorrect

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Best guess from schizo mind.

The tic tac has 2 engines, each generating a field. One one engine is creating a field that pushes aether away from it, essentially creating a TRUE vacuum space. The 2nd engine cancels or nullifies the effect of the field created by the 1st engine. When these 2 field overlap with each other it creates a thin bubble surrounding the craft of true vacuum space. bubble visible in pic related Commander David Fravor who saw the tic tac with his eyes reported the water beneath the craft boiling away. I think what he saw was rapidly evaporating water caused by the craft's true vacuum bubble rapidly evaporating the water with low pressure/vacuum forces.
It's unreasonable to assume ALL ufo craft operate this way, but that's best guess for the tic tac.

>> No.15818386

Mick west has debunked gimbal beyond doubt. If you're still in doubt after watching that, go to /x/

>> No.15818390

>>15818386
he put in a lot of work gaslighting people
he's calling the pentagon stupid
he's wrong

>> No.15818392

>>15818053
The U in UFO stands for unidentified, not for alien.

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I solved classical electrogravity in 2013. My solution shows how you can bend spacetime with electrical antennae.

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Sixty-Six Theses: Next Steps and the Way Forward in the Modified Cosmological Model
>https://vixra.org/abs/2206.0152
>http://gg762.net/d0cs/papers/Sixty-Six_Theses__v4-20230726.pdf
The purpose is to review and lay out a plan for future inquiry pertaining to the modified cosmological model (MCM) and its overarching research program. The material is modularized as a catalog of open questions that seem likely to support productive research work. The main focus is quantum theory but the material spans a breadth of physics and mathematics. Cosmology is heavily weighted and some Millennium Prize problems are included. A comprehensive introduction contains a survey of falsifiable MCM predictions and associated experimental results. Listed problems include original ideas deserving further study as well as investigations of others' work when it may be germane. A longstanding and important conceptual hurdle in the approach to MCM quantum gravity is resolved. A new elliptic curve application is presented. With several exceptions, the presentation is high-level and qualitative. Formal analyses are mostly relegated to the future work which is the topic of this book. Sufficient technical context is given that third parties might independently undertake the suggested work units.

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>>15818392
The A in UAP stands for anal.

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>>15818461

>> No.15818473

>>15818392
no one ever said they were alien, you said that

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>>15818392
some of them do appear to be alien

>> No.15818522 [DELETED] 

>>>/lit/22627724

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>>15817996
EZ AF: just manipulate the wave function describing the position of your saucer, and collapse it towards where you want to go. Only retards don't know how to do it.

>> No.15819486

>>15818290
What about these, anon?
https://www.fark.com/comments/1386759/Behold-The-USAF-Top-Secret-Nuclear-Powered-Flying-Triangle-Thingy-in-all-its-glory-Oh-yes-there-are-pics?cpp=1
https://m.fark.com/comments/4371964/50903132/Scientists-think-warp-driven-starships-may-be-possible-one-day-at-least-until-some-acting-ensign-pulls-o#c50903132
https://m.fark.com/comments/4371964/50903132/Scientists-think-warp-driven-starships-may-be-possible-one-day-at-least-until-some-acting-ensign-pulls-o#c50903132.. (go to last page, and load 50 comments back)
>Inb4 just read all the comment, bro
Erewhon is your guy. There is more from him elsewhere, and I'll post it if someone is interested

>> No.15819488

For those that don't want to read

>> No.15819492

Help if I attached the pic

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Goddamnit

>> No.15819508

>>15817996
its is an flying goose easily debunked by thunderfoot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCH7BWGpl5s

Same Goes For mexican aliens.
The Only Reason why you Keep seeing these type of THINGS is Politics. To Keep Distracting Anons From Real Issues.

>> No.15819514

>>15819508
Yes, geese often have a plasma corona around them. I was taught in grade school that geese rely on plasma wingforms for flight.

>> No.15819596

>>15819494
>the properties of "inertia" and "mass" were dependent on the existence of external matter
I've had this idea previously, where the properties of other particles in a given particles reference frame are a component of a particles "identity"/properties.

>> No.15819605

>>15819486
Yes, please do!

>> No.15819607

>>15819514
>plasma corona
And how exactly did you establish that? Don't talk out your ass.

>> No.15819608

>>15819596
Hilariously enough, ALL of the BEC and polariton laser research is coincidentally funded by the Office of Naval Research. Ketterle's Nobel work in 1994 was a direct result of ONR funding. The guy mentions at USC is more than likely Robert Hellwarth.

>> No.15819612

>>15819607
You can see it in the picture, tard. Or at least that's what it appears to be.
>>15819605
I'll dump everything I have when I get back home.

>> No.15819619

>>15819608
>The USC mention
https://www.optica.org/History/Biographies/bios/Robert_W_Hellwarth
The article is partially full of shit. Yakov Zel'dovich provided the foundational work in phase conjugation and wavefront time reversal

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The document he refers to is titled Principals of Phase Conjugation by Y.A. Zel'dovich

>> No.15819631

I bet the poor guy who flies that got pulled from the field for getting caught by the humans :(

>> No.15819685

>>15819612
>You can see it in the picture, tard.
And how did you prove it isn't just the scattered light halo/glare from the overexposed object in the middle?

>> No.15819818

>>15819685
It's a FLIR image is why. I could be wrong, but I don't think I am. Plasma stealth/virtual wingforms has been a focus of aerospace research on both the US and Russian sides since the 70's.

>> No.15819832

>>15819818
>It's a FLIR image is why.
That's not an explanation. You are confusing interpretation with observation. There is nothing in that image that indicates plasma. You are taking based on your own prejudices.
This shit is one of the many reasons why it's so difficult to study these things. People say a blob and they say, must be aliens and there anti-deuteride flux capacitor. Detach yourself from what you want it to be and the reality is that it's a saturated object with a glow around it, not clear at all if the glow is real or a camera artifact.

>> No.15819833

>>15819832
See* a blob

>> No.15819842

>>15817996
/thread

https://youtu.be/UTLHmbbI8ik

>> No.15819967

>>15819832
You very may well be right, but this was seen on a military grade FLIR pod and it's more about it's reported flight characteristics and lack of radar return that, combined with the image, lead to me to believe it's plasma. And for the record, I don't believe in aliens. These are 100% ours (US).

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>>15817996
The physics used for the propulsion and inertial dampening has possibly already been discovered. It's just taking a while to penetrate into the mainstream because it disagrees with Einstein's general relativity

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>>15819973

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>> No.15820074

>>15818005
yeah but i think he's at work, check back later

>> No.15820093

>soiyence fiction goyslop thread
>>>/lit/22636318

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>Plasma
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread935820/pg1
Funny enough, you can find some B-2 photos where you can see a obsidian like glossy black line right along the leading edge of the wings. Allegedly, this is the project patch for the retrofits done at Whiteman AFB, the original being the "Classified Flight Test" one

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>>15821262
i couldn't help but mention one of the ufos i saw up close looked like an obsidian polygon ufo, and it had a strange glimmer, the geometry was almost hard to comprehend, it was probably hyperdimensional
it was shaped like two large upside-down black obsidian arrowheads connected in the middle
it looked similar in quality to this one

>> No.15821640

>>15817996
weather balloons just float wherever the wind goes

>> No.15822879

>>15819508
>debunking US government
is this some sort of a conspiracy theory?

>> No.15822901

They use anti neutrinos to interact with the higgs boson field to collapse the sombrero potential

>> No.15822909

>>15819842
This

>> No.15822921
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>> No.15822942

>>15821486
the bright lights on these things are crazy, like in the bottom left image

>> No.15824400

>>15817996
bump

>> No.15824408

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/xhzSZsilLg

After yesterday's SCIF, which going on comments from the Congressman so far suggests they 'didn't have clearance to be briefed on those projects'

However one congressman did slip up and admit they were told about advanced propulsion tech

>> No.15824415

>>15824408
Burchett was asked directly about the propulsion tech and said he didn't want to comment, so seems true

>> No.15824419

>>15824408
>advanced propulsion tech
even if, that could very well be human made. to make the jump to aliens you really need a very clear jump in tech, the nature of which can only be alien, since there's no way such a tech could ever possibly be developed with our current tech level.
which in itself is a daunting task. especially since we're not able to send teams from all over the world, highly skilled technicians and scientists analyzing said alien tech and getting a general consensus from everybody. unless this particular thing happens, whatever it is it's pure bullshit MOST LIKELY

>> No.15824435

>>15817996
super conducting tesla coils

>> No.15824695

They are simulation glitches

>> No.15824701

>>15824419
>even if, that could very well be human made.
It is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U70nrM_E2T8

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>>15821486
>>15818020
AYYYY

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>>15817996
element 115 dude, it comes after element 114
how could someone predict that?
no visible propulsion woah dude, woah, it was jamming muh radar.
humans are basically chimps

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What we're seeing is just the shadow of something much spoopier

>> No.15824864

>>15824837
the military-industrial complex?

>> No.15824865

>>15818390
>he's calling the pentagon stupid
which is reasonable

>> No.15825050

>>15824864
>>15824837
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG1feSs2N8Q

>> No.15825059

>>15824755
>>15824837
I sincerely wish you faggots would read the Fark links I posted. It all seems very plausible from a scientific standpoint, just at the absolute cutting edge. It also seems a WHOLE lot like what Dr. Ronald Mallet, original black science man, was describing with his "time travel" apparatus. Just with a deep, non-linear medium (i.e. BEC or fermionic condensate) instead of just a ring lasers alone. People like Wolfgang Ketterle won Nobel Prizes for this shit, and coincidentally ALL of his BEC/Matter Wave Amplification research was funded by the Office of Naval Research. I can guarantee you it isn't for better clocks. There is also using the BEC as a laser amplification mechanism ala' polariton laser

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>>15824732

>> No.15825099

>>15817996

Engineered spacetime. Probably something akin to a Alcubierre warp drive.

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>>15825099

To add, they are typically, circular, cylindrical, triangular or spherical in shape. Hypothetical alcubierre drive concept have toroidal shapes.

>> No.15825104

>>15821486
lmao

>> No.15825109

>>15825103
what the fuck happens when you run into a phlegm at that speed?

>> No.15825118

>>15825109

I've read that the particles either flow around the bubble of engineered spacetime or get stuck inside the bubble

>> No.15825129

>>15825099
>>15825103
Could you produce something like this with a functional analogue to a Kerr Singularity, like a rapidly rotating toroidal BEC?

>> No.15825142

>>15825118
how would you scan if your path goes through some 100km wide space rock? especially if you're looking at light-years worth of distance. how tf do you scan that journey ahead? especially since you'd need to math out where whatever you can detect will be when you pass that place.

>> No.15825146

>>15821262
Like this photo. Look at the leading edge of the wing, and then look at other photos of the B-2. This shiny black strip along the wings are area around the exhaust is NOT present in other photos of other B-2. Pretty sure the Spirit of Mississippi was one of the alleged retrofits.

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>Note dem wangz

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>>15824837
I am a firm believer that pic related is why this will never be declassified. (((Allegedly))) They® were supposed to start to bring some of this technology out into the public sphere, but then this weapons test in 2004 happened. Here is the same guy in the Fark links talking about this specific thing.

>> No.15825182

>>15825142
This may sound absolutely retarded, but what if Hubble and JWST were tasked to create navigation maps?

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>> No.15825189

>>15821486
if it's obviously a balloon, then it's not Unidentified. it's technically not even flying, it just floats

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>>15825189

>> No.15825308

>>15825189
what if there's an alien inside? think about it, shaped like a balloon is the perfect cover. nobody gives a fuck about a fucking pink balloon.
op may be on to the alien's ruse

>> No.15825370

>>15825308
When did UFO = possible foreign spying device turn into UFO = aliens?

>> No.15825421

https://thehill.com/opinion/technology/4277128-technology-surprise-are-china-and-russia-ahead-of-us-in-ufo-retrieval-research/

Lines up with the new propulsion tech stated by Congress yesterday

The slow drip continues

>> No.15825424

>>15817996
wrong question. theoretically we can model how one could use microsingularities or negative mass to warp space. the real question is how they are powered. we may not know how these craft are powered but the answers as to how they move are currently being held at LIGO and LISA along with obital gravitational observatories.

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>>15825424
zero-point energy
>How to Build a Working UFO | Alien Reproduction Vehicles (ARVs)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUFYnVXbLoY
>Zero-Point Energy
https://sflix.to/watch-movie/free-the-lost-century-and-how-to-reclaim-it-hd-97408.9653206

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>>15825424
Bro, it's a goddamn Kerr Singularity analogue using a BEC. Your Casmir Effect/region of negative energy is generated at the center of the ring. It's also why these things bleed intense radiation because of the blue shifting of input photos that can't escape the ring. It's the photon equivalent to a sonic black hole. Washington State University has generated negative mass with a BEC OF rubidium. This is not far fetched by any means.

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>> No.15825991

>>15825722
can i get a source for this?

>> No.15825994

>>15825991
nevermind

>> No.15826000

>>15825994
for interested anons:
https://www.fark.com/comments/4371964/50922300/Scientists-think-warp-driven-starships-may-be-possible-one-day-at-least-until-some-acting-ensign-pulls-out-all-computer-chips-to-play-dominos-with-engineer

>> No.15826019 [DELETED] 

>>15826000
>i'm goooonnaa fly throo spaice at the speade of lite!!!!!
>just like in muh star wars moooooovies!!!!

>> No.15826088

>>15826000
/Sci/ nigger won't read any of this, although I wish they would. There was a lot more spicy posts until the Great Fark Holocaust of 2004/2005

>> No.15826091

>>15826019
Don't be a faggot, anon. Debunk it, if you can (and I don't think you can)

>> No.15826164

>>15817996
By having an angular speed relative to the tracking plane that isn't even close to the limits of civilian planes let alone anything special by military standards.
Every time you hear "it moved miles in seconds" it's never a visual, optic or IR track, it's always radar and jammers have been able to range gate for decades.

There is nothing special going on but because the official stance is "we don't know what it is" retards assume aliens.

>> No.15826175

These threads are so frustrating because everyone has such fanciful ideas and there's no math to describe literally any of it when people are posting. You can't just say bullshit like "engineer spacetime" and not explain how it works mathematically.

>> No.15826179

>>15825146
>>15825149
This was mentioned in Jane's Defense and later republished in The Hunt for Zero Point. Apparently they used an ionization device to artificially increase the lift of the wing.

>> No.15826563

>>15826019
you jest but, like, FTL is THE universal problem and if at all solvable likely to have been done so independently multiple times in our local area. its like the third task one would give to an AGI. look, ill concede that we mere humans may not be up to the task (more on this later). however, given our sheer inability to explain fundamental features of the universe, id stop at stating its unsolveable. on the topic of zero-point energy, i always found nima's solution to vacuum energy suggestive: https://youtu.be/U47kyV4TMnE?t=4129

>> No.15826566

>>15826179
>leading edge
>WEAV
>we're well beyond that now...

>> No.15826573

>>15826563
ive always liked this as well
The Mystery of Empty Space
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-vKh_jKX7Q

>> No.15826578
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>>15826000
There was FAR spicier discussion that used to be up, but pic related happened (((allegedly)))

>> No.15826970

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsNSF7oBYS0

Graves full explantion is actually interesting, the guy knows his shit.

These things have been around for a while and its very regulary happening

>> No.15826998

>>15817996
Set in place to confuse your stupid little minds. The same way remedial children are introduced to the world, but are l i t e r a l l y intellectuals in disguise.

These crafts are the magnets of the sky. They're the double suns in Antarctica, and even the ants that can form a bridge during a flood to let other ants pass over it. Literally a 'wtf' of nature. It's not meant for you to understand. Only God, aka your Creator, aka [your] Heavenly Father.

>> No.15827785

>>15818020
>>15818476
>>15821486
>>15825087
>>15825269
I admire this level of autism

>> No.15827797

>>15817996
One of those guys from the recent scif said "it seems someone has developed an alternative means of propulsion" I wonder what it is

>> No.15827827

>>15826998
>the double suns in Antarctica
Are you talking about sun dogs? They're well understood, moron.

>> No.15828416
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15828416

>>15827797
electromagnetic gravitic propulsion

>> No.15828421

>>15817996
>How do these operate?
Typically birds flap their wings in order to fly, as well as taking advantage of ambient air currents.

>> No.15828431

>>15822921
Do you want to know what #4 is?

>> No.15828440

>History of Anti-Gravity & Trans-Dimensional Physics
>Dr. Steven Greer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taW4bs1dggY

>Intro to Trans-Dimensional Physics
>Dr. Steven Greer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zls596_FEo

>> No.15828532

>>15826970
ther must be a lot of footage of this shit if they're seeing them daily

>> No.15828542

>>15828421
how do you know they are birds? They are aliens for all we know

>> No.15828578

https://youtu.be/UTLHmbbI8i

/thread

>> No.15828581

>>15817996
Semite combustion engines. They're incredibly efficient

>> No.15828744

>>15826179
>Jane’s
Which yearbook?

>> No.15828751

>>15825180
Oh, I know quite a bit about this specific thing, at least what is on the pic.
It’s really sad that instead of ground breaking SSTOs we’ll be having generic rockets for the coming decades just because the same phenomenon can be used for similarly ground braking WMD and as such, keeping technology enabling such weapon secret is a top priority.

>> No.15828887

>>15826088
Is there any archive for it?

>> No.15828891

>>15828887
Negative, the links I posted are the only ones that still exist. There are ATS posts by the same guy under "Bedlam" and "Tom Bedlam".
>>15828751
I am the original positronium particle beam tard of /k/

>> No.15828902

>>15828887
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1289063/pg1
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread928253/pg6
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1059820/pg6
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread570990/pg1
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread901726/pg3
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1052569/pg6

>> No.15828917

>>15828887
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread287741/pg1
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread904926/pg4
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread637964/pg2
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1133859/pg5
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1117013/pg1
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread728051/pg3
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1140658/pg4
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread630313/pg3
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread292606/pg1#lastPost
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread183684/pg4
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1066328/pg9
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1107221/pg2
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1168536/pg1
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread710158/pg6

>> No.15828927

>>15828887
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread271757/pg1
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread725684/pg2
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread935820/pg1
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1099713/pg3
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1027905/pg11
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1164412/pg1
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread220613/pg1
>and last Fark link
https://m.fark.com/comments/1112341/last

>> No.15828972

>>15828891
>I am the original positronium particle beam tard of /k/
I’m pretty sure it’s plain positrons, not positronium.
I’ve also made a few threads though mostly from a perspective of someone who invented it independently and wanted to find out, first, of perhaps someone already did (and it being classified), second if I can somehow cash in on it despite not being first (so I won’t disclose it to the Chinese etc?).

>> No.15828999

>>15828972
At a minimum it appears to be a polariton driven gamma ray laser. As far as your question, pretty sure this link addresses it
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread630313/pg3

>> No.15829055

>>15828999
> At a minimum it appears to be a polariton driven gamma ray laser.
Well, the end result would be gamma rays either way. All I know that the thing I’ve come up with utilizes positrons as the medium.
>link
In my case it’s a bit more complicated as I’m not a US citizen and don’t live in the US. I’m also just finishing my degree so I don’t really have money not time to make a proper patent application though that should change soon. Still, the problem of living on the other side of the world, in a country that for sure does not have capabilities to research such things persists. And filing for a US patent is sure to be a mess in such case, if even possible.

>> No.15829065

>>15829055
You're a little behind the curve, fren.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/240834525_Prospects_for_Making_a_Bose-Einstein-Condensed_Positronium_Annihilation_Gamma_Ray_Laser
https://news.ucr.edu/articles/2019/12/05/gamma-ray-laser-moves-step-closer-reality

>> No.15829068

>>15829065
I might have worded it out improperly by using ‘medium’. It’s not a laser. It’s a method of particle beam delivery and a propulsion system utilizing positrons; both with accompanying production and storage methods.

>> No.15829635

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/YGvtouPueq

Interesting movement, if real

>> No.15830116

I've red some work on device, that if constructed properly is making objects in it's field not being subject to G so much.

Does anti-gravity belongs to this toppic?

>> No.15831111

>>15817996
they operate by the government psyop program for stupid people who believe it. After that, its gets easier.

>> No.15832320

>>15817996
I wouldn’t worry about it.

>> No.15832670

>Communication with Extraterrestrial Intelligence
https://www.nsa.gov/portals/75/documents/news-features/declassified-documents/cryptologic-spectrum/communications_with_extraterrestrial.pdf

>> No.15833308

>>15828431
Yes but how many glowies will stretch my anus as well as the electronic anuses of my devices if I do know

>> No.15833309

Because I will settle for a new culture book instead, I just like reading about scifi stuff

>> No.15833320
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15833320

>Retired Lt. Gen. Steven L. Kwast says fantastic technology exists that could transport a human anywhere on Earth within an hour.
https://twitter.com/wow36932525/status/1719417510737432896

>> No.15833338

>Recently Retired USAF General Makes Eyebrow Raising Claims About Advanced Space Technology
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/31445/recently-retired-usaf-general-makes-eyebrow-raising-claims-about-advanced-space-technology

>Steven Kwast | The Urgent Need for a U.S. Space Force
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsPLmb6gAdw

>> No.15833342
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15833342

>>15818031
It's something to look forward to if we kick off a major peer-war. Finally get to see all the incredible things they've been cooking up these past 30 years. Plasma decoys integrated into a system like NEMESIS will be kino

>> No.15833401
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>>15833320
>fantastic technology exists that could transport a human anywhere on Earth within an hour.
technically he may be right tho. maybe not one hour considering boarding and shit.

>> No.15833418

>>15825099
Came here to say this.

>> No.15833492

daily reminder that if the object you're observing is breaking all the known laws of physics, you're probably just wrong about what it is/looking at a sensor malfunction

>> No.15833493

>>15825186
>yeah dude I hacked into a DOD system and saw they had records of a whole fleet of interplanetary ships
>did I download any files, take an screenshots, or exfil any kind of evidence to back up claims? of course not
>they also have unlimited free energy lmao

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15833511

>>15833492
it's more likely the known laws of physics are wrong, and you are the reason why they're wrong, because you ignore the new data

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15833513

>>15833493
the zero-point energy is the proposed mechanism for the ufo energy systems, these have been witnessed if you have seen any of the footage

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15833518

>>15833493
the tic tacs are supposed to be black projects, i believe the witness said he saw an entire fleet in the video footage
they are most certainly interplanetary

>> No.15833530

>>15833518
>actual footage is just parallax
>animation shows crazy maneuvers accompanied by a fucking water wake created by the object, neither of which was shown in the real footage
typical

>> No.15833536
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15833536

>>15833530
actual footage is almost impossible to obtain
the animation is all you're getting

>> No.15833540

>>15833536
yeah, impossible to obtain. best we can do is party balloons >>15833511
daily reminder that UFOs are just a psyop meant to distract from real black projects, aliens aren't real and they certainly aren't crashing into power lines after traveling interstellar space to reach us

>> No.15833544
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15833544

>>15833540
not sure where you're getting this information
those are actual ufos, probably ET
ufos are real, and are both alien and black projects
it should be common sense
they've been photographed, we certainly work on this kind of stuff
the physics is hyperdimensional and allows aliens to teleport in, aliens have been photographed
alien craft get shot down by scalar waves

>> No.15833546
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>> No.15833549
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another greer photo

>> No.15833550
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15833550

>>15833540
what exactly would the real black projects be?
synthetic telepathy and artificial intelligence control systems?

>> No.15833555
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>> No.15833558
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15833558

>>15833550
remote viewing isn't real. the black projects are just your typical top sekrit)))) aircraft being tested and retards eat up the UFObait like candy.

>> No.15833565

>>15833540
Black projects are the real psyop. They are used as a nebulous 'explaination' of things people see.

The government doesn't want people to know we are mere ants to the E.T.s. And that we're utterly powerless.

>> No.15833566

>>15833558
not so sure where you're getting that information
>Remote Viewing and Statistical Validation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrwAiU2g5RU
>remote viewing history
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00791R000200090001-7.pdf

>> No.15833575
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15833575

>>15833565
ETs and anyone with that technology

>> No.15833653

>>15833342
Reminds me of this guy's debunking of the Lazar story:
https://www.otherhand.org/home-page/area-51-and-other-strange-places/looking-at-the-bob-lazar-story-from-the-perspective-of-2018/

>> No.15833661

>>15822921
From what I can tell PACL never existed and this document is a clever fake. The lack of actual classification markings is also an easy tell.

>> No.15833673

>>15833653
I remember reading his earlier article linked in that one. If I had to bet on an explanation for the Bob Lazar story, this guy's on the money

>> No.15833685

>>15833550
>synthetic telepathy
notice how these anti-psyop "schizos" are coherent enough to drill in this psyop into your psyche. by continuously mentioning it.
>no but I'm anti the thing I keep parroting

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15833703

>>15833685
it's really just a fair warning
not sure why so much resistance

>> No.15833708

>>15833703
>just stop resisting bro

>> No.15833710
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15833710

>>15833708
what part about all this is not so believable?

>> No.15833714

>>15833710
think I'll counsel you for free brother?

>> No.15833729

>>15833714
you need scientific thinking therapy

>> No.15833773

Well, there is literally no pace to hide from telecommunications.

>> No.15833805

>>15833773
or quantum cancer