/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15793193
First Crew Module for Gaganyaan test flight takes shape

https://www.isro.gov.in/First_Crew_Module_Gaganyaan_test_flight_TV_D1.html
> The first development flight Test Vehicle (TV-D1) is in the final stages of preparation. The Test Vehicle is a single-stage liquid rocket developed for this abort mission. The payloads consist of the Crew Module (CM) and Crew Escape Systems (CES) with their fast-acting solid motors, along with CM fairing (CMF) and Interface Adapters. This flight will simulate the abort condition during the ascent trajectory corresponding to a Mach number of 1.2 encountered in the Gaganyaan mission. CES with CMwill be separated from the Test Vehicle at an altitude of about 17 km. Subsequently, the abort sequence will be executed autonomously commencing with the separation of CES and deployment of the series of parachutes, finally culminating in the safe touchdown of CM in the sea, about 10 km from the coast of Sriharikota.

https://twitter.com/isro/status/1710506719124570606

Starlink Nears Approval in India + Payload Analysis

https://payloadspace.com/starlink-nears-approval-in-india-payload-analysis/
> India is on the verge of approving SpaceX’s Starlink service, paving the way for the launch—or, dare we say, broadband—giant to bring satellite internet to a nation of 1.4B people.
> Officials are set to meet as early as this month to approve Starlink’s satellite license for use in India, according to two reports from the Times of India and Financial Express. If approved, Starlink would join OneWeb and Jio Satellite in beaming down internet to India.
> 40% without internet: Despite rapid growth, India remains a developing country, with a staggering ~40% of its population without internet access, often due to poor fiber broadband coverage. Even those who do have internet access are subject to shutdowns—sometimes imposed by the Indian government for political reasons, such as to prevent people from criticizing the government or organizing protests.
> With 500M+ people lacking accessible internet, India represents a massive opportunity for SpaceX. Sanjay Bhargava, a former Starlink executive, said in 2021 that the company was aiming to sell 200,000 terminals in India within its first nine months of operations.

>no support for Israel
>no condemnation of terrorists
What's his angle?

>>15793297
there is no winning move

https://twitter.com/AdrianDittmann/status/1710386792820814141

>>15793271
>bubblewrap

Reminder about the conquistador mommies that launched that rocket last night

>>15793264
Cancel Mars Sample Return (MSR)

https://twitter.com/CSI_Starbase/status/1710621329760592068

>>15793335
He meant they SpaceX is building a parking lot instead a static fire stand.

>>15793314
NASA believed, pre challenger, that they could make 18 ET per year.

>>15793341
And now where are we? 1/4 of an SLS core stage a year if we are lucky.

>>15793312
>well-funded aerospace startup making progress
>in a European country with low cost of living, high happiness index, loads if hot women, which is one of the easiest Euro countries to move to as an American

Moving to Spain sounding real good right about now

>>15793352

>>15793341
They were going to make 18 in 1985. They planned to be able to build 24 a year by 1990 and able to hit 40 by 2000. The early shuttle program projections were a whole different kind of wild.

>>15793264
>>15793270
>>15793271
>>15793272
They’re actually building it. good for them

>4chan.org/pol/catalog
>ctrl+f "Israel"

>>15793264
>>15793270
>>15793272
ponder the redolence

>>15793341
Why couldn't they? It's just a hunk of aluminum with orange styrofoam??

>>15793400
it needs to be assembled in a clean room with aeropspace grade styrofoam chud

>>15793383
It's been in the works since 2008, but it was deprioritized for a lot of that time. The current push to get manned spaceflight capability started around 2017. Watching Gaganyaan limp along feels like I'm watching pockocmoc tinkering with Orel.

>>15793400
The retarded side mounting means it had to be robust to stresses from that direction

https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1710673079884824925

https://twitter.com/ESA_transport/status/1710672547073679604

>For all you rocket-lovers, let's do it again tonight . Vega flight #VV23 now set for liftoff at:

> 22:36 local time @EuropeSpacePort
> October 7 02:36 BST October 8
> 03:36 CEST October 8

>Watch live via @Arianespace starting around 20 minutes before launch.

>>15793414
Space Ground or Space Earth whatever theyre called is my fav chink retard name space company

am I missing something about vega or is it just absolute crap?
>3 failures in 22 launches
>average of only 2 launches per year
>4 stages for a small lift rocket (3 of them solids)
>half the price of f9 for about a tenth the payload capacity

>>15793431
I don't know why they keep trying to launch it.

>>15793425
I like galactic energy.
Some anon said that some of these rocket companies have a completely different chinese name that actually make sense, but have little to no relation to their english ones.

>>15793431
vega is awesome.

>>15793437
i'm pretty sure at least one is called X-space and at least one named their rocket "space rocket"

>>15793431
It's crap because of all the reasons SLS is crap. It's just built on a much smaller scale.

>>15793303
One Nuke will solve the entire issue.
Violence is always the winning move.

>>15793431
Vega on paper would've been amazing in the 00s and mid 10s. It's just been mismanaged, and Ariane always had the priority. It was almost gutted a few times and the french didn't even want it decades ago.

>>15793264
Where’s the designated shitting pad?

>>15793446
I don't think Musk proposing nuking of Israel would go over too well

How does spaceflight competition work in a nutshell? Do the competitors steal/copy/buy technology from each other or design their own original ideas in parallel? For example Starlink is a super fucking complicated technology compared to conventional antennas. If Bezos wanted to design something like this, there is really no reason to reinvent the wheel since "it just works". On the other hand, there are probably some trade secrets that they would have to figure out. Are they legally allowed to create a copycat technology? Or could they just license some components from Musk?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B57GDeirtJY

> SpaceX & NASA's Bold Plan: What's at Stake!?

>>15793456
the absolute state of non-SpaceX entities

>>15793460
>the absolute state of non-SpaceX entities
That includes us.

>no Vega fireworks

>>15793270
Will it have a toilet?

>>15793471
it will have a designated shitting corner

>>15793471
designated shitting module

>>15793352
>well funded
No. European tier funding. Not even gubmint help.
>low cost of living
Same as Germany
>happiness
We are poor and have low salaries, high taxes, no industry, 30% real unemployment and 10M immigrants.
>hot women
Not especially hot. Expect the same as in any other western country.
>easy to move
Lots of young people need to leave the country each year in order to have a job and a house. Go figure.

https://twitter.com/GraviticsInc/status/1710671454420045971

>>15793486

>>15793486
>next-gen
what does that even mean?

>>15793488

>>15793490

>>15793489
PR speak

>The engine to push us to the Moon!

>Teams at @NASAKennedy are completing final inspections of external insulation on the service module that will propel astronauts on the #Artemis II mission around the Moon.

>>15793494
>The #Artemis II crew will be the first to travel aboard the Orion spacecraft. On their nearly 10-day journey, they will travel 685,000 miles (1.1 million km) around the Moon and back to Earth.

>Discover what’s in-store for the astronauts: http://go.nasa.gov/3F3TEtB

>>15793341
>Go looking for the "Space Shuttle ET Lessons Learned" PDF I linked here a few weeks ago to recommend it
>NASA has redesigned the site and it's temporarily unavailable

link rot...

>>15793464
4ASS becomes orbit capable 2024
trust the plan

>>15793486
https://twitter.com/GraviticsInc/status/1710329118183833985
>It’s #ManufacturingDay and we’re proud to have an outstanding team building spacecraft at Gravitics. We’re bringing space station manufacturing to the United States, one module at a time.

>Photo: Stephanie Manasterski, building a component for our propulsion assembly. #mfgday2023

>>15793503
yes but the Earth is round

>>15793505
It's still pretty amazing how much stuff that goes to space is built by hand

>>15793508
it's all made in small series, hence handwork

>>15793509
get some anti-psychotic meds, trust me they will help you.

>>15793510
inshallah gravitics will be pumping out modules like a car factory 10 years from now

Friendship ended with Axiom. Now Gravitics is my best friend.

>>15793489
ask them on X, maybe they'll tell you

>>15793505
Gravitics is a fucking investor scam I swear to god. With zero notice they called me and a bunch of other people in for an "interview" where they just walked us around the factory in sight of a group of investors taking a tour and repeatedly pointed out to them that we were being interviewed and that they were "hiring lots of people!". Then they just shunted us out the door when the tour was over. Zero interviews, zero questions, nothing. Their factory is enormous but empty. Their office is a ramshackle cube farm in a back room with maybe 20 employees. The few engineers I did talk to seemed green and unprofessional. All their hardware is for show - just non-representative mockups for investors, except for their pressure test article which they openly admitted was not representative of a flight article in any way.

I wanted to have hope for them but for me, it's over.

>>15793530
funny you would bring that up, the factory did seem kind of emptyish from the pictures
but if the company has like 40 employees, 20 being engineers doesn't seem that weird

>>15793530
could you do us a favor and tour vast's factory too so we have a point of comparison

>Space pioneer sample tested a production level TH-12 engine. Which will be installed on the first Tianlong-3 rocket. The rocket plan to have its maiden flight at May 2024 & full 1st stage test at end of 2023. They are moving fast.

>TH-12 is is a 1350 kN oxidizer-rich gas-generator cycle rocket engine burning LOX and kerosene under development by Space Pioneer
>Tianlong-3 is a two stages, 590t launchers carrying 17t to LEO and 14t to 500km SSO in reusable mode.
>Tianlong-2 (2t to LEO) first succesfuly launched last April, however it used YF-102 engines on its first stage, which isn't built by the company.

>>15793481
Nigga, it's not so bad. I sure as fuck would love to live in a more prosperous country, but considering what just happened is a milestone for this country, and exactly the kind of high tech industry we need... we could be much worse. I have lived in central europe and the quality of life is still better here, if you make decent money.
All our politicians need to be roped however.

>>15793264
>>15793270
>Gaganyaan
So once India finally kills someone with a bad flight, will they finally get their heads out of their asses?
Don't get me wrong, India has made leaps and bounds in their space program, but for a country without a whole lot of experience, they sure are rushing to launch humans after a few lucky breaks.

https://twitter.com/Arianespace/status/1710705242906525700

Vega launch is delayed, new date TBA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWE08fJZac4

>>15793562
>MUH HEALTH N SAFETY
>SO ARROGANT
>THEY'RE JUST NOT READY
You fell for the reusable astronaut meme.

>>15793573
>reusable astronaut meme
Shit, forgot about those single-use astronauts.

>>15793572

>>15793580

>>15793582

>debunks musk

>>15793562
>rushing to launch
did you miss the post where I said they started working on this in 2008?

>OCON OUT
>PEREZ OUT

Ha, they're developing the equivalent of airmail for LEO space stations
https://spaceref.com/space-commerce/nasa-awards-outpost-a-phase-2-ignite-sbir-contract-to-advance-its-cargo-return-system/

It's not quite a rogallo wing (they use paragliders) but they want to land capsules and not just drop them

>>15793562
How are they rushing with this unmanned test of the escape system?

>>15793644
Just going too fast.
Slow and steady is best

>>15793608
Wrong thread dude.
also the massive celebration for Verstappen even though it was Oscar that actually won the sprint race is kinda funny.
>>15793652
I think you might be retarded.

Next stop -- Failure of Mission. Because when they're still doing emergency repairs a few days before launch, you know you're doomed.

IFT-2 is also done for. No more 2023 launches.

Ground Control to Major Tom....

>>15793658
NGMI

>>15793562
>they sure are rushing to launch humans after a few lucky breaks.

Three and a half years from Sputnik to Gagarin.

>>15793562
Newfag

>>15793662
60’s space men were built different

IFT2WNGA

https://twitter.com/marstimrdad/status/1710736791572004880

It sucks balls that spacecraft will never look like this

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2023/10/07/exp-project-kuiper-tim-farrar-100705aseg1-cnni-world.cnn

haven't watched the vid yet, but this guy seems to have mild EDS from the twitter posts I've seen from him, just as context

>>15793688
>starlink is going to have a 5 year lead when Kuiper gets online

Q: Too far back to catch up?
> depends on how big the market is
> its going to come how big the consumer market is

>>15793682
>trying to use these in KSP
>even with 4x speed you're sitting there for 20 minutes

>>15793691
Sad it's eventually going to be replaced by lasers.

>>15793688
He's had EDS syndrome for nearly a decade. AFAIK. He's always been claiming SpaceX bad Starlink bad, etc.

Books to learn about spaceflight engineering?

>>15793718
Go find a syllabus for any decent university's aerospace engineering department.

There are too many to list here.

>>15793689
I don't understand what it means

i miss the early days

>>15793721
ESL or dumb?

>>15793721
It means first mover advantage in space is way more valuable than first mover advantage in business

As in orbit, you have to spend more just to keep up. Amazon has literally bought the entire commercial launch capacity OF THE ENTIRE WORLD, both extant and in development, to catch up to SpaceX with Starlink. I don't think a similar situation has ever happened in real life before, aside from maybe people cornering markets in metals in order to abuse futures contracts

>>15793722
Back when we though we'd be on Mars by now.

>>15793682
It has more xenon than the dry mass of an Electron first stage. Pretty fucking wild

>>15793720
I'd like something more human than a list of books online, maybe someone who enjoyed one of them more or with a specific subject. I would have asked a chatbot for a random list.

>>15793726
That's not true. Elon is half ass, bezos will do it better the right way, slow and steady. infinite cash!

>>15793727
kek

>>15793726
checking timestamp

>>15793693
I made an interplanetary crewed transport with big ion drives. Departure burn is over an hour lol

Why do astronauts wear $2,000+ watches. Is it just to flex?

>>15793569
I wanna see this thing blow goddammit

>>15793025
site is down now kek

>The PLD launch hit 46km altitude, but they were targeting 80...
what does that say about the project? would you guys consider it a failure? at least they managed to launch the test thing, didn't they?

>>15793481
>No. European tier funding. Not even gubmint help.
their main guys said in the stream yesterday that they got 30% of their funding from the govt

>>15793481
redditors told me europe was a paradise wtf

>>15793751
Premature shutdown could be a lot of things. Things you have to be careful talking about because of ITAR. It's really only something that experience and further design iterations can fix.

>>15793718
Ignition!
4chan is gay and won't let me put it in the post, but it's super easy to find

>>15793773
?

>>15793425
expace has to be my favorite, I mean it's literally SpaceX with the x at the front, pure genius

>>15793780
worlds most intelligent chinks:

>>15793776
my PDF is somehow 22MB

>>15793755
Why are you listening to redditors?

>>15793687
How did this dinky little shuttle's chemical drives even manage to escape the gravity well of Big Ben and give enough delta v for an intercept back to the solar system? I unironically think that cislunar and orbital spacecraft might look like this if we figure out meme fuels like metallic hydrogen and metastable helium. But interplanetary stuff shouldn't look like this since it'd be cramped as fuck. Picrel looks very nice for missions past the kuiper.

>>15793751
The PLD CEO claims that 46km was planned because they had a "last minute" change of trajectory to decrease ground risk and lower Max Q...

Yet they didn't notify anyone of this change

>>15793799
oh, that's sad...
this is not unexpected for me, though. I live in latin america and I'm 99% confident the liar and manipulatiion genes (if such things exist) came from the fucking spanish.

>>15793799
Was that why they had a launch hold? Damn that's sneaky. Didn't look like anyone in the control room knew.

>>15793790
Any time there's a "chemical fuel" shuttle in science fiction it's best to assume it has a magical >200 twr >1000 isp rocket

>>15793814
Metallic hydrogen with water injection could get pretty close to that. Pure Hmetal monoprop is ~1200s Isp, and water is always good for bumping TWR of thermal rockets.

>>15793599
>did you miss the post where I said they started working on this in 2008?
Yes they did start on it in 2008, but that was during a political uproar that boosted funding for a short while. The human rated project was put on the back-burner shortly after starting because said political uproar went away. It wasn't until fairly recently that a serious funding surge came back, and again politics got involved. Or maybe I'm thinking of another program, but I'm damn certain it was the IRSO.

>>15793644
>How are they rushing with this unmanned test of the escape system?
As above. Plus, they are using a three-stage medium lift rocket that doesn't have many launches under its belt. This is a heavy opinion, but I do have an engineering degree, so I am mildly retarded. From the launches that have been televised with live tracking, the launches have not been very good. They may have placed a satellite in orbit, but some of the technical margin of errors that they allow have caused some close calls that will bite them in the ass.

>>15793662
>Three and a half years from Sputnik to Gagarin
That is impressive, but that was during a different time period in a different country. Incredibly different environments.

>>15793663
>Newfag
>▲
>▲▲

>>15793819
You know what, after reading over your initial post metallic hydrogen really does fit the bill. And people can stay in cramped conditions just fine, never mind that Siri was frozen on the way back

Has NASA NIAC ever produced anything useful for actual missions? For all I know they have, I just can't remember any specific ones. The new quantum radar remote sensing looks promising.

>>15793823
>>15793819
Even then the shuttle shouldn't be able to reach escape velocity. Big Ben is a superjovian with 10x Jupiter's mass and counterintuitively, a larger gas giant's mass doesn't correspond to size. Big Ben would have a radius equal to or smaller than Jupiter's. That gives a gnarly escape velocity of ~60km/s when you're already in orbit. So you'd need an Isp of over 2200s for a normal ship and 7000s for the shuttle form factor to work. They probably just retrofitted a beam core antimatter thruster onto it, did the same thing to a different ship in the sequel and the graphic artists just got it wrong.

>>15793828
It's always just go-nowhere welfare for researchers like that plasma magnet thing.

buran at a party in ukraine, pretty cool

>>15793834
An advanced nuclear thermal or regular solid core antimatter engine could reach 3000s, no need to deal with beam cores and the latter could probably resemble the blind sight shuttle closely. I'm more curious about the air breathing engines (which worked in space just fine)

>>15793844
That weird booty shake women do is so odd to me

Just ANOTHER TWO WEEKS ANON!! TRUST THE PLAN

>>15793870
TWO
MORE
WEEKS

>>15793870
we already knew FAA was going to be done by mid-late October, it's FWS that are the bottleneck

>>15793870
Get this nigger off the air

We're back xhisters... is it really over?

>>15793875
FWS is needed for the FAA clearance though, right?

>>15793875
THATS RIGHT ANON IT WILL ALL COME VERY VERY SOON... APPROXIMATELY TWO WEEKS
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ITS OOOOVVVEEEERRR

>>15793840
Behead those who insult Greason

>>15793879
Not as far as I'm aware, they're separate agencies investigating separate things. FAA is mostly just making sure that the FTS actually works this time.

>>15793562
There is going to be quite a lot of test flights before they send a human in that

>>15793822
Have they even done a re-entry before? It sounds like they're skipping quite a few steps. Unless they're getting tips, I guess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QycmHTHav8
> Bill Tandy, Gravitics - How to Engineer a Next-Generation Space Station | Iteration22

4 months ago
Chief Engineer of Gravitics talking about engineering a space station

>>15793897
So next gen means larger diameter I guess? ISS was limited by what they could fit in the shuttle.

>>15793879
there is a safety clearance thing (the list of stuff that SpaceX posted, all of which do not have to be done for this flight) that is purely within the FAA and then some enviromental thing that FAA has to prepare, ask consultation from the FWS and then FWS has 30-135 days + possibly more time to do a report, FAA then has to read and put this into their own larger report I guess
so two different parallel issues
take this with a grain of salt though, this was talked about a few weeks ago or something and I don't remember the specifics anymore, there are probably old news articles about it though

>>15793530
you weren't kidding, the factory is way too fucking big. >>15793897 I figured you meant empty as in they would fill it up by the time they had 3 hulls or something

>>15793897
This is just Titan sub 2.0

>>15793914
why do you say that?

>>15793921
Idk Bill

>>15793886
It's not even Grifterson's idea. He copied it from another guy named Slough who did a NIAC years ago. Greason just ran with it and painted lots of pie-in-the-sky ideas like Q-Drive while showing no interest in doing any serious work to explore the plasma magnet idea, not even detailed theoretical work.

>>15793927
Slough is basically a wizard of plasma physics.
>Plasma Magnet Sail
>ELF thruster
>now working with a fusion company

>>15793927
well at least he popularized it somewhat and got the idea out there more

https://youtu.be/6S4JCplFw48?si=vgRQCeUPQcU0VAkR

Any pictures from the last flyover?

>>15793934
I'll tell you what it looks like: fucking nothing. same as the last 100 flyovers

he can't keep getting away with it

>>15793947
This kind of schedule a decade ago would've looked like fiction. The sort of post-shittle stuff that you would think would be multiple decades away, then you add the reusability bit and it's mind blown.

>>15793947
100 launch year here we come

>>15793952
falcon has got the kind of cadence shuttle should have actually had if it was going to be useful

>>15793952
It's basically comparable to peak R7 cadence, but constant through the year, not really fiction.

>>15793947
A reasonable administration would exempt Spacex from environmental regulations via executive order. This company is such an incredible asset to the US that impeding their operations for any reason other than critical human safety standards is ridiculous.

>>15793980
by incredible asset you mean waste of taxpayer money?.

>>15793983

Space based fusion

>>15793988
Fusion based space

Kids in 2123 getting a 1.5 km/s orbital transfer pod for their eighteenth birthday

>>15793988

>>15793993
Kids in lunar highschool building and flying a hopper to LLO as a graduation requirement

>>15793991
Based space fusion

>>15793486
4 meters is shit.
We shouldn't settle for anything less than 10m modules, which can fit into 12m expendable starship fairings.

>>15794030
with several meter wide modules I can imagine there being a problem with people getting stranded in open air. If you drift away from a wall slowly until you can no longer touch it, you could be in the open space for quite a while. That would be even worse if you have a spin.

>>15793693
Might be because you aren't using enough of them?

>>15793868
Shaking their hips? You faggot.

>>15794015
High school was harder a hundred years ago, what makes you think it's going to be harder a hundred years from now

>>15794040
pretty much every 7 meter + module is divided into smaller sections. skylab had 2 decks and change, orbital reef was to have 2 decks, every render of an inflatable module shows them with 3 decks, and gavitics' renders show starmax with multiple decks (although it is missing from their physical mock up)

>>15794044
Nothing on the moon is easy

>>15794050
cheese is

>>15793431
Repurposed SLBM. Made to subsidize the French missile program.

>>15794040
>I can imagine there being a problem with people getting stranded in open air
just string some ropes up if it's a problem

>>15794040
Lungs+mouth is a pressure-fed rocket motor. Getting stranded in a 0g hab is a meme.

>>15793617
Artical suggests research material is stuck on the ISS. Could a Dragon 1 capsule be refurbished to bring it back cheaply?

>>15794101
Nothing about a splashdown recovery is cheap, that's why SpaceX originally wanted propulsive landing on land

>>15793455
I’m not even kidding, “competition” like you’re describing hasn’t really existed in this industry-like AT ALL- until about 2015ish. If not even more recently.
Someone else correct me if I’m wrong here, but the only competition that has existed period has historically just been one or two or three companies proposing designs/ideas, and arguing about who actually gets to build NASA/DoD rockets. Historically, satellite operation has always been a set-in-stone oligopoly with clearly-defined roles (only a few companies for surveillance, telecommunications, NASA probes, etc.) And rifles have only been a handful of MIL defense contractors.
We are approaching the very first ‘true competition’ of LEO (which, btw, NASA was wanting to exist like 20 years ago but never came to fruition). And even still the “competition” is really just SpaceX doing some cool stuff and everyone else seething and/or trying (and failing) to play catch-up. SpaceX hasn’t cornered some sectors like mil surveillance but if the wanted to they could absolutely grip every sector with an iron fist and fuck everyone else in the ass and kill if any slight threat of competition going forward

>>15794167
*rockets
not rifles, lol

I get my nasa badge next week!

>>15793455
Historically: Lockheed, Northrop, Boeing, North American (etc.) would build the hardware and software but NASA/DoD would actually hold all the rights. It’s a niche market w/ national security interest so NASA would just share pertinent info with everyone else in the interest of national security and prestige of having good rocket and satellite tech

Modern: I imagine most people bounce around “newspace” enough to where even if they signed an NDA or whatnot; they can, for example, work on Starlink, get hired at BO with a bigger salary, and design something “similar”. Hell, BO stole most of the boomers from AeroDyne to build up BE-4

TWO. MORE. WEEKS.

>>15793748
Advertisement for the brand in some cases

>>15794168
You would have been right with rifles, too.
- /k/

>>15794209
Go back

>>15793748
Well, back in the day, the Apollo missions lived by their timetable, and their chronometers were something that absolutely, positively, had to work in any conceivable situation. So they got a special watch. After that it became a tradition, I think.

>>15793455
>For example Starlink is a super fucking complicated technology compared to conventional antennas.
Phased array antennas are "complicated," sure, but ultimately they're something that was pretty well understood from a physics and engineering perspective. Spacex didn't invent a new class of antenna, they used an existing one that was just very niche in its applications because nobody was operating a LEO internet constellation. Then they put in the effort to figure out mass manufacturing of that kind of antenna to take advantage of economies of scale, because they were the first company to NEED that many phased array antennas.

>>15793973
plus less volume constrained payload.

>the two weeks have passed since announcement
>still no license
its over

>>15794254
We will be lucky if it's launching this year

>>15794254
nah
two weeks after the announcement is when the two week countdown starts

>>15794254
>newfag doesn't know when the two-week two weeks starts

>>15794265
Actually.... >>15793870 looks like its been 3+ weeks. Your cope runs out next Sunday

>>15793425
LandSpace aka blue arrow

Its falling apart around us.

>>15794282
it's normal and good for poor companies to get culled

>>15794282
It remains to be seen if the current trend in commercial earth imaging keeps up enough demand for these small launchers

In the back of my mind I'm wondering just how many sats you'd need for continuous .5m resolution monitoring of every point on earth and whether we're at that level yet.

>>15794282
Astra is making real money somehow?

>>15794167
i really really hope spacex ends up being like weyland-yutani

>>15794282
The rocketlab forecast for current coming quarter is also off by a bunch

>>15793264
STARSHIP FLIGHT WEN?!?

>>15793983

Another day not leaving ball earth.

>>15793947
Oh, hey, Psyche is finally launching.

>>15793947
seeing this made me so sad that musk has fucked up the SpaceX archives for future historians by no longer streaming on youtube

>>15794301
selling satellite thrusters and I think they got that business line from buying another company, most (if not all) of the team has then left because mismanagement

>>15794369
X is going to be 4k in a month or two according to Musk

>>15794382
Most likely for subscribers only

>>15794392
for uploading yes, for watching I doubt it

>>15794394
Even youtube blocks higher bitrate stream watching behind paywall

>>15794382
>in a month or two
In 3 months then probably

Still sucks that it's on X. I never had a twitter account before so its a new platform to learn and a janky break beatween old and new SpaceX content

>>15794369
Surely they have internal archives. But them being private means no guaranteed access.

>>15794369
What
Literally every stream get reposted on youtube

Bill Gates was in on the 100mil funding round

https://www.thenew.money/article/bill-gates-is-backing-reusable-rockets
> The new $100M round was filled with notable investors including Bill Gates’s Breakthrough Energy Ventures, Y Combinator, Point72 Ventures, Toyota Ventures, The University of Michigan and others

>>15793947
Look up how many launches are planned for the 30th

>>15794457
Well, at least Stoke is competing for the TSTO space for a reusable idea, so that's a pretty good choice. At the same time, Bill Gates is a pretty consistent anti-Elon investor.

SARah 2 & SARah 3 patch

>>15793870
12 months delay because Elon Musk didnt kow tow

>>15794457
They want a not-SpaceX. Gates has a ~1-2 billion dollar short position that he hasn't closed (because he would lose that much money)

>>15794457
>>15794476
AHAHAHAHA
I'm hoping for some more seething from Mr MicroSoft.

>>15794476
> “Most philanthropy was “bulls—,” Musk told Gates, estimating only 20 cents of each dollar made a difference that way. Gates could “do more good for climate change by investing in Tesla,” Musk said, according to Isaacson.

>Musk then questioned Gates on why he had placed a bet against Tesla’s stock, known as a “short,” in hopes the share price would drop. Musk despised people who bet against his company, seeing them as mortal enemies. At that time, Gates had lost $1.5 billion betting against the stock. Gates said he apologized and said he shorted the stock because he thought he could make money doing so.

>Musk texted back: “Sorry… I cannot take your philanthropy on climate seriously.”

>Musk then famously tweeted a photo of Gates in a golf shirt with a bulging belly that made him look pregnant and mocked his appearance.

>>15794397
only 1080p (for now), 1440p and 4k still gets you higher bitrate
also the basic 1080p is now almost as bad as 720p in some cases

>>15793586
You're in the thread and this guy slaps Elon's ass. What do you do?

>>15794469
>jewish name sarah
>templar cross
>phallic rocket
>globohomo earth model
*gulp gulp*

>>15793729
>ask for advice
>get excellent advice
>"no, I insist on being a retarded faggot"

Even if you had a point (you don't) those lists are curated by humans already.

>>15793892
Of course. They're planning to send many Indians first.

>>15794044
There's no room for a parasite class in space colonies (at least in the beginning).

>>15794095
Air has very low density compared to, for example, your body. Swimming doesn't do much either.

Getting permanently stranded is impossible, but it might take a few minutes to get up to speed.

The real reason it's a non-issue is that you'd have to intentionally get rid of your momentum first. Even then a big open space would probably have some air currents.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=89gjHntYMY4

>>15794254
After careful review of the oldest surviving manuscripts in the original ancient Hebrew and liberal use of numerology I have concluded that it's actually two weeks of two weeks, or 196 days.

>>15794572
take back one day to honour the Hebrew god, whose federal government this is

>>15793729
In that case feel free to go fuck yourself you smelly loser.

Amazon’s Project Kuiper satellites add to astronomers’ light-pollution woes

https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/10/amazons-project-kuiper-satellites-add-to-astronomers-light-pollution-woes/
> In an emailed statement, Amazon spokesperson Brecke Boyd wrote: “As part of our prototype mission, we’ll test an anti-reflection method on one of the two satellites to learn more about whether it’s an effective way to mitigate reflectivity.” The company also plans to use steering and maneuvering capabilities to orient the solar array and spacecraft to minimize reflection from surfaces, according to that statement.

>>15793834
>Big Ben is a superjovian with 10x Jupiter's mass
what are you guys talking about?

>>15794587
its a goofy scifi book with autistic vampires called Blindsight

Soyuz-2.1b to use RD-180!

>>15794602
>2019

>>15794107
Or the rocket to launch em or man hours to "refurbish" em. Just want to see used a few more times. Lol sell Dragon 1 to Europe or Japan so they can have LEO cargo capability again.

>>15793870
>another fortnight, trust me bro

>>15794592
I wouldn't call it goofy, more terrifying

>>15794167
.Mil satellites might be one of the few places old space has managed to get close to SpaceX. StarSheild contracts are reasonable. CLIPS is similar if it works

>>15794569
They had to go out of the way to set him up with minimal velocity, but you can still see that he was slowly drifting to the left. It would be very hard to get stranded like that without assistance, because you need velocity to get to the middle, and then you can't just cancel it.
At the very worst you could push off of a wall very slowly to get stranded, but you'll still get to the other side eventually. And the slower you go, the longer you can still reach for a handhold before you leave the wall.
Something as simple as breathe in through your mouth, out through your nose, should be enough to affect your momentum by going in different directions. But it's not hard to to carry around a small pressurized air tank or a battery powered fan.

>>15794592
>>15794617
Loved this book
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkR2hnXR0SM

It's over.

>>15794657
>Outta my way you drone fucking shit

>>15794569
>>15794631
if you're not at the center of mass in a big LEO space station you will be subject to tidal forces that will bring you to a surface. no ones dying of thirst

https://youtu.be/6QycmHTHav8?si=jyBYbg8CDTIbIQFZ&t=1479

>>15794687
yep, normiefags can't comprehend tidal forces

>>15794657
>RVAC 303 scores it's first ground to air kill

>>15794724
starship SAM when?

>elon is pro-palestinian
why does he keep choosing to make enemies. there's only so much good will that spacex can provide him.

>>15794740
Elon stands with the faithful, cope and seethe kuffar

>>15794657
Which retard was flying that drone?

>>15794740
bullshit and off topic

>>15794763
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1711033701415432245
warmonitors is a pro-israeli genocide "news" account

>>15794770
you are retarded, warmonitor is pro-hamas, osintdefender is pro-israel
again, off topic you dumb faggot, can't even keep your spam accurate

why do we send these puny chicken-looking things?

We should be driving around on Mars with T-72s crushing all the Martian life under the soil.

>>15794282
>rocket lab 2006
Holy fuck they are old

https://twitter.com/teslaownersSV/status/1710921821682643247

>>15794790
4 years after SpaceX, 6 years after Blue Origin
Stoke was founded only in 2019, Relativity in 2015

>>15794044
with off-the-shelf rocket engines and propellant tanks that sounds pretty easy, the hard part is going to be strapping it all together and then programming guidance

>>15794794
What are some other instances of a company becoming a monopoly or monopoly-like simply due to being the best at what they do?

>>15794836
Standard oil before teddy roosefag broke it up

space shuttle is superior to starship in every single way apart from cargo capacity.

>>15794843
Space Shuttle 14, Starship 0

>>15794213
make me

>>15794843
Starship deaths: 0
Space Shuttle deaths: 14

every card is the ace of spades wtf

>>15794850
>>15794847
exactly. number 1

>>15794820
100 years ago it would be unthinkable to have a robotics competition in high school. These days highschoolers build maze solving robots out of lego.
also rocketry is already a pretty common high school engineering project. nothing liquid like you’re suggesting, and nothing capable of making circularization burns. but it’s not unreasonable to guess there may be COTS solutions to this in 100 years

>>15794687
these conversations always make me imagine what ball sports would look like in space once we get really big space stations
you could imagine a non-rotating cylinder room with a diameter of a football field and a length of two football fields with all sorts of interesting stuff in it.
let's set the stage.

it has netting all along the walls to prevent injuries from people careening into the metal sides of the module.
it has a variety of geometric shapes suspended into the playing field by poles attached to the module walls, they're made of compressible material, spheres, cubes, prisms, or even hollow frames of those shapes. people can use them to slow down, change direction, increase speed etc, people can also hold onto them and position themselves so that other people can pass the ball to them. there''s elastic ropes hanging here and there that serve as obstacles but can also be used a crossbar to do mid air gymnastics, they're elastic so you can use them to slow down at high speed or gain even more. on either side of the module are circular goals about 2,5 times the diameter of a person, there's a goalkeeper that can hang onto the sides of this goal or a few platforms surrounding it to attempt to intercept balls.
everything in the playing field is cushioned so that it's hard to get injuries, the maximum speed that people can reach would probably be dictated by their own skill and more importantly, air drag, you could play around with the amount of drag by increasing the atmospheric density beyond 1 bar (this would be played around with and eventually people would find an air pressure that has the right amount of drag for safety but still allows people to have fun by going fast enough.

players would probably want to wear some kind of protective clothing as well so they don't hurt eachother by slamming into eachother.
1/2

>>15794874
ruleset:
the game starts when the ball is introduced into the arena, both teams will start on symmetrical platforms on either side about 25 meters away from the middle.
there are 12 players on either team.
players can give the ball velocity with any part of the body they like, hands, feet, headbutting, keicho, it's all fair game.
players are allowed to take hold of their own teammates and add velocity to them or change their trajectory or slow them.

you are allowed to do this with the oppositions teammembers as well, you can intercept them and either strike into them without grabbing on or grabbing them and then throwing them.

however, there is a time limit to grabbing enemy players, you will be dealt a card if you do not let go within 5 seconds.
if you manage to grab an enemy player carrying the ball and hold onto him in any way, the ball carrier will be forced to let go or pass it to his teammates.

so yeah, the possibilities would be endless with that kind of setup. you could imagine a breath of different playstyles, who knows what kind of team compositions and meta's would form, what kind of bodytype would have an advantage?
people would probably be really clumsy at this sport at first and lots of people would get stuck in mid-air (though after a few minutes you could probably flap your arms enough to get back to the side of the arena or one of the platforms, or you could get a teammate to push you) and wouldnt know how to control direction or speed to intercept the ball, other players, or even the platforms and ropes. but eventually people would get the hang of it and you'd get god tier pro players that can perfectly calculate trajectories and use elaborate teamplay to speed one of their players up or make his path unpredictable to the enemy. goalkeepers would be dealing with the regular mindgames too ofc.

what do you guys think? this has always kind of been what i think of when i think of spess sports.
2/2

>>15794877
>>15794874
this will be my only effortpost btw, after this it's back to posting TWO MORE WEEKS

>>15794885
pretty good, might be cool in large cylinders to take advantage of the zero gravity region in the center to have a game where you have to try to stay in the middle while others try to kick you out. Like boxing but you end up falling to your death/into a net if you lose

>>15794847
>>15794850
hivemind is correct

>>15794874
>everything in the playing field is cushioned so that it's hard to get injuries
No, I want space rugby where its considered a poor match if there's no broken noses and blood globules floating about

>>15794890
my whole idea for this is that it's not a spinning habitat at all but just a stationary cylinder with zero gravity everywhere.

though again, even this could be played around with, you could make module spin slightly to introduce a small amount of artificial gravity that allows you to create complex parabolic or hyperbolic trajectories that are harder to to intercept.

>>15794895

>>15794892
sorry sir you'll have to go to the canuck spacehockey arena for that, they hit eachother with their stick in high speed driveby's

if anyone touches the goalie all hell breaks loose and every player on the goalie's team will be trying to intercept the one who did it and checking him or giving him a few punches.

>>15794899
exactly, but you'd probably want to keep the gravity low enough that people themselves can do these maneuvers and not just the objects they throw.

interesting variable would be come the speed at which you or the ball goes, you could go as fast as possible which would give you a less curved, more predictable trajectory.

going slower might counterintuitively make you harder to intercept as you make all sorts of mindboggling curves through the arena.

>>15794895
I think doing it from floating would be pretty boring. Being able to run around the walls of a cylinder, possibly combined with rotation mindfuck, would be much more interesting.

>>15794910
>2hu
couldn't you basically do IRL danmaku by playing dodgeball in spess?
you could even make it more difficult by making the balls very bouncy so they can bounce off a wall and hit you from behind after you just dodged it.

>>15794905
I imagine this sort of game being played by spinhab kids from an early age so that they intuitively know how coriolis forces work

>>15794572
that's about what the FWS is allowed to take, when you include the extension and also the delay time between them wrapping up the investigation and the FAA actually accepting their conclusion

>>15794910

Someone posted something about Jimmy Iovine being "dark" and I googled him. I noticed immediately that he looks just like Greg Eisenberg who is the namesake of Heisenberg on Breaking Bad. He was my massage therapist for a while (for sports massage, not handjobs) and he told me he used to be in "ladies' footwear" before he got into massage. I took that to be a euphemism for narcotraffic which contextualizes his place on Breaking Bad. (Gus Fring was named after Helene "Gutfreund," Gus wears Helene's glasses, he is an effeminate weirdo because he's playing a woman, the name of his company Madrigal references Helene's identity as "mom girl," etc.) In his massage studio, Greg had some mirrored plaque on the wall that said LIVE like a motivational poster but more decorative. In the mirroring, or maybe in the mirror on the opposite wall, it said EVIL. At the time, I wrote it off as coincidence but now I don't. I had already noticed that David Solomon became the new Goldman Sachs CEO due to his familial connections to Greg,and there was too much music in one place when I noticed this thing with Jimmy Iovine too. (David Solomon also works the nightlife as DJ D Sol.) Even the "IO" and "EI" prefixes to Iovine and Eisenberg seems suspect.
>the music producer
>the album
>the DJ

https://symmetrysportsmassage.com/about

>>15794918
just imagining all the possibilities is making me kind of giddy.

I WANT SPACE BALL NOW GODDAMNIT, WHY DID I HAVE TO BE BORN IN THE AGE BEFORE SPACE BALL

Hmm, here's an idea: you can't touch the ball while you are touching any part of the "field" (cylinder).
And now that I think it through, resets after fouls could be a pain in the ass, while everyone sorts things out. Maybe you get to wear boots with a small patch of magnets or velcro so you can at least stick to the walls, I dunno.

>>15794836
Valve with Steam
no other digital distribution platform has come close

>>15794920
hey buddy i think you got the wrong door, the schizo thread is two blocks down.

@15794920
fucking AIslop spam

>>15794924
referees could have an rcs pack so they can quickly sort that stuff out.

>>15794925
That is mainly driven by network effects for being the first. Like no one could really chip into Youtube's VOD market share since that's where people simply go for videos.

>>15794928
none of that is AI, it's too unique. AI can only regurgitate minor alterations of what is already in its training dataset. There's also too many errors with the writing; GPT is very sanitized and predictable with its sentence structure and grammar.

>>15794945
try saying that in /g/ and they will rip your head off with umm akshuallys

Another day not leaving ball earth

>>15794945
Kill yourself ai obsessed faggot
>>15794985
Go back to ruining /g/ and not /sci/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouMpSl9eFa0

>>15795000

>>15795000
>>15795008
it's over...

>>15795008
all brown and developed land is owned by spacex

>>15795013

>>15795018
it sure is turning into a 'company town'

>>15795018
started to add asphalt and there is a line of asphalt trucks

>>15795034

>>15795034
Parking lot?

>>15794899
>>15794918
Honestly, looking forward to the first HLS landing on the moon and the equivalent Mars' variant landing. It will very much cause a spectrum shift in modern contemporary media, to align more and more towards space oriented visual concepts. Like a drama taking place on a ring station

Would be super cool if this ends up being a booster/ship allocation sector, but I guess it might end up being like a local grocery/clinic all in one, so that all the employees who are working there have a means to get basic goods and services without needing to go all the way into Brownsville.

>>15795086
they already have a restaurant, bar, daycare, gym on site

>>15795087
That's cool.

>>15795061
Need somewhere to put their 300 methane tanker trucks

>>15793297
didn't he recently talk with Netanyahu about antisemitism

>>15794798

damn Relativity is old as well

>>15795092
yes a bit, it was mostly about AI though
then a spaces later with a bunch of jewish "leaders" or influential people or whatever you want to call them

https://youtu.be/BFpGe9v2ExU?si=mn9NfVKWHifXggGF&t=96

https://obs.carnegiescience.edu/PAST/m31var
https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap231006.html

https://chrisprophet.substack.com/p/elon-is-building-a-better-elon

> While she [Grimes] was three or four months pregnant with [little] X, Musk casually mentioned that he planned to depart for Mars in 10 years.

>>15795159
forgot to say this, but this is the first time I've seen anything about Musk personally going to the colony to lead it or whatever
I always had the impression he would perhaps go there to retire or something and until then run the other companies actively

https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/

two starlink launches soon

>>15795166
surely some dedicated star shield batches will go up eventually

>>15795166
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1710405415799017640

>>15795167
they could just disguise them as starlinks

>>15795161
Yeah, he's only going once one of his sons has shown his mettle and can take over the Earthside ops

Head of ‘disruptive’ space procurement agency hits back at critics: ‘Change is hard’
Space Development Agency’s Derek Tournear says the agency’s ‘go fast’ approach is being challenged by the defense procurement bureaucracy that resists change

https://spacenews.com/head-of-disruptive-space-procurement-agency-hits-back-at-critics-change-is-hard/
> WASHINGTON — The head of the Space Development Agency — a U.S. Space Force organization that uses unconventional procurement methods to acquire satellites and build a space network — is pushing back at critics who presumably don’t want the military acquisition culture to change, SDA’s director Derek Tournear said in a recent social media post.
> Tournear’s post suggests the recent blowback is coming from inside the DoD bureaucracy.
> Tournear in his post staunchly defended SDA’s approach, emphasizing that military forces need access to cutting-edge technologies in a timely manner and that the traditional methods often have fallen short.

overGODS, predict the 2024 starship launch date.

>>15795184
March

>>15795159
I fucking love musk like you worldnt believe
>>15795171
Sadly its 100% certain that his children will not be anything like him. When he is gone SpaceX will quickly become rudderless and quickly turn into a futuristic version of ULA. The children of the greats never live up to their ancestors and typically behave like spoilt brats.

She spin on my hab till I... hmm.

>>15795192
Kys spincel YWNGTS

>>15795193
She sit in my well till I launch

>>15795193
Bow down to your betters wellnigger

Sick Brickmichael render

>>15795021
>it sure is turning into a 'company town'
It's probably housing owned by SpaceX on their own land that the employees are allowed to rent/buy. As soon as Elon said he was officially creating Starbase, Texas, builders starting cumming so much cash on the surrounding land in order to buy the prime real estate locations for when Starbase would eventually become a large city, and they could charge a premium for buildings to go up. Everything out there that isn't owned by SpaceX directly probably has a 1000% premium price increase just because they know someone will eventually pay for it.

>>15794379
yep, Apollo Fusion which was itself sort of a failed startup (tried to use novel electric propulsion methods, went back to hall effect with xenon prop)

>hey biden - I'll stop making damaging comments about israel for the next month or two if you let me launch starship

https://twitter.com/johnkrausphotos/status/1711146179428253783

>>15794794
is it just me or does the audio cut after he mentions virgin galactic? Happens on chrome and firefox for me

>>15795272
yes happens to me too

Do we need affirmative action for SpaceX competitors? Should we draft a law to ban spacex from competing and ban Starship so SpaceX competitors can catch up?

>>15795337
Tesla's competitors received hundreds of billions dollars in gov funding. The last 2 years, Ford/GM/Stellantis received ~25 billion dollars total in government funding alone. Direct government funding, not tax credit thats available for all. I mean direct 25+ billion dollar in funding for company's growth.

Do we need that? Would that be legal if done in space industry?

>>15795337
it's a real problem that the government needs to figure out. Another option would just be forcing SpaceX to sell the government a fleet of Starships completely under their control like what they just did with Starlink.

>>15795341
Why should the gov force them? Is SpaceX refusing?

>>15795343
it wouldn't make sense to sell anybody a starship unless they were forced to

>>15795349
SpaceX will sell Starship to anyone as long as they're willing to pay. Same with F9/Heavy.

Ofcourse they wont sell for the same price as launching contracts because each Starship has potential for 100-1000 launches. So the prices will reflect that potential revenue lost. And ofcourse it wont just be a direct 100-1000X price increase, it will likely be a geometric mean pricing. Instead of $100M for 150 ton to orbit, it will be around ~$5-10B per rocket. That would be extremely cheap given that its reusable and can carry more mass to orbit. If us gov wants to buy it, it will easily be able to afford it. Just scrap SLS program once Starship flies. Buy 10 of Starship over the next 10-20 years.

>>15795337
throwing money at the problem won't cut it

>>15795353
1) throw money at competitors
2) delay spacex
3) ban spacex from competition
4) put spacex under investigations
5) refuse to buy contracts
6) nationalize/force spacex to sell

>>15795339
Space launch is key to military readiness so yes the government has the right to throw money around.

>>15795337
See, your comment is retarded but the ones in the picture aren't wholly unreasonable

>>15795354
that just means reusability like Starship doesn't become a thing most likely
for instance, spacex "failing" could be seen as a failure of the whole concept and too risky and not tried for a very long time
Falcon 9 clones being fine for LEO constellations and that is where it stays for another 50 years

>>15795352
>SpaceX will sell Starship to anyone
give me a source for this insane claim. SpaceX to my knowledge has never stated that anything is for sale except launch services.

>>15795367
Thats because the they're selling the cheapest launch service in the US/World with the best track record for the highest payload

If the US gov suddenly decides they no longer want to pay cheap to SpaceX and save billions and instead wants to own the infrastructure directly for their own use, there's no evidence that SpaceX wont sell them.

Its all a matter of contract and the will of the US gov

>>15795369
If US decides to buy Starship and pay SpaceX $5 B per starship, it would be absolutely worth it for SpaceX to sell. It would also be absolutely worth it for US gov as well, as they're getting 10-1000+ reuse out of that thing vs $4.2+ billion for a single use SLS. SLS launched 100 times would cost US tax payers >420 billion dollars. If Starship is sold only for $5 billion it would be an amazing cost saving measurement over SLS. And SpaceX also profits handsomely too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XknbyH6ipxc
15 minutes to Vega

ere we go ere we go

>>15795395
T-1:02 all green for launch

DECOLLAGE

>no exterior mic sounds
oof

>>15795395
Please don't fuck up this time. My country's sat is on that thing.

>>15795409
The remaining Vega launches don't use the stage that failed

>>15795409
Estonia anon?

Arianespace announcers are insufferable, I think it's the same woman as usual but she always acts like she doesn't know what a rocket is

>>15795395
Where is my Clear stream? Is she working?

show us the fucking charts Arianespace

>>15795413
Announcers need to hit a fine balance between being informative for people who have never watched a launch before and not being completely insufferable for people who have. Since this is Arianespace I think they just assume that no one's ever watched them before and any viewers they have were just randomly shown in by the youtube algorithm.

>>15795413
that's kind of hot actually

i want to fuck kate tice and have her pretend to be dumber than me

>>15795419
they should go the starlink route and just overlay the radio callouts on the livestream, no announcer at all

>space team europe

>>15795086
A Dollar Genera/Dollar Tree combo.

>>15795341
>forcing SpaceX to sell the government a fleet of Starships completely under their control like what they just did with Starlink.
I thought the space force already had a fleet of starships on order for once it hits production?

saturns keeler ring gap, and its shepherd moon daphnis. you will never see this view with your own two eyes.

>>15795455
This would be fucking WILD
Even just a real photo from a lander would be almost beyond belief

>>15795455
That's true, I won't have two eyes

>>15795455
another thing i found, this is actually jupiter, not saturn. the fucking ring system is massive i thought it was just a couple rings very close to jupiter that existed but no this is definetly a larger radius than saturn's system just not as dense.

>>15795467
also somehow found an aurora on neptune when checking its ring system.

>>15795455
you won't see them since i will clear them out for easy money

>>15795474
turned up the exposure a bit. convinced that the greatest economy that off planet colonies will have is tourism.

Is posting space engine stuff annoying to the rest of /sfg/? I dont want to be a total faggot like the no effort ai spammer with posting images so if you all dont like it just let me know and ill stop (not taking input from aicels).

>>15795489
it's content at least
I just lurk so I am in no position to complain

Starlink launch in a few min

>>15795489
Purely for the reason you were considerate enough to ask I'll allow it.

Also /sfg/ is dead, etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kppdTDAwG4
Starlink time. T-10:00

>No Clear
bros...

>>15795516
rope up

6.5k watching on twitter
18k+ on youtube
pathetic

HOLD

>>15795518
No Clear no launch, it's just that simple

>Starlink hold
It’s over pack it up boys, SpaceX is filing for chapter seven as we speak

upper level windchads… we are so back

there would be no reasons for scrubs other than human mistakes on mars. would not be hard to trace who fucked it up either.

>>15795538
if you suggest we start killing people who makes mistakes I'm going to throw you out the airlock

>>15795541
i am suggesting that we would know who to reprimand on a mars colony, execution is reserved to those who actively sabotage the colony, not those that make mistakes. it would just be easier to know who did what mistake, and how it can be completely avoided in the future. a mars colony wouldnt be best korea. lord, why would i advocate for my own execution if i were to make a mistake?

>>15795537
October's looking like it's gonna be a wild month of watching rockets not launch

>>15795555
TWO. MORE. WEEKS.

>>15795555
The Curse of Scrubtober

>>15795555
>those digits
Its over.

>>15794840
Standard Oil did get big through merit and innovation. Like making pipelines instead of using trains all the time.

But towards the end it got pretty lousy with tons of very obvious cases of bribery, market suppression and other behaviors that gave it a bad reputation as if it were above the law.

If you read the period appropriate literature it was mainly this turn to criminal behavior that most people hated.
The narrative of “big companies should be broken up because big” was more of a 20th century spin on anti-trust.

TONIGHT ON ROCKET GEAR

I DELIBERATELY TUNE AN ENGINE FOR WORSE PERFORMANCE

I MISREAD THE LAUNCH MARKET BY A FACTOR OF 2

AND REFUSE TO LAUNCH ANYTHING BIGGER THAN 15 TONS

>>15795581
could you stop with that gay spacing. if i call it what it really is retards will screech at me about it, but its annoying whatever you want to call it.

>>15795018
I wonder how shit their houses they build are

>>15795599
who gives a shit? you get to live right next to the launch and build site. if you applied for and got a job at spacex, you know that youre gonna be worked like a mule and are fine with it. this only makes it easier to do what you really want to.

>>15795589
>I DELIBERATELY TUNE AN ENGINE FOR WORSE PERFORMANCE
qrd?

>>15795622
Archimedes is Neutron's engine. It's a methalox GG designed to run at 50% throttle to increase reusability.

>>15795626
The lack of ambition is so pathetic. How do they expect to compete with Falcon 9, let alone Starship (or even Stoke)?