/sci/ - Science & Math

Its over edition

First for Tom Mueller

October, just two more weeks everyone!!

20 fucking years.

and I was fucking right about NET october lmao

>>15781301
So what is you’re favorite space company and why is it Space X

>>15781310
I like Rocket Lab because they're the only ones who proposed a probe mission so far

>>15781308
Don't forget, you're here forever.

The development of space settlements will be extremely slow. 99.9% of people will live on Earth 200 years from now

>>15781311
Same

>>15781317
And that's a good thing. Space should select for the obsessed for as long as possible.

>>15781308
Thought that blonde bimbo was Gwyenne

I like to imagine space societies in the future will be very low population and heavily leverage robotic labor and unmanned systems.

>>15781305
Get ready to rumble edition

>>15781340
>AI

>>15781340
>>15781343
>>15781285
>>15781280
We remember what you did last thread. Fuck back off to whatever hole you crawled out of.

>>15781340
kill yourself

>>15781301
Say something nice to him.

Probably is a seething furry porn artist that had to get a McWage job when his commissions dried up.

>>15781356
>we
you've reminded me of someone

>>15781317
It will also be extremely lame, with virtually no opportunity to freely explore or route without permission from governing bodies.

>>15781323
Well, that explains why you weren't born in one! Population = probability!

>>15781377
100% ok with being worked to the bone and micromanaged for the rest of my life if I get to leave this planet.

>>15781377
what are they going to do if I disobey?

>>15781385
Deport you, duh. If you resist arrest they may have to just cut off your supplies or put you down. You dont have many options anon

>>15781377
That's why you gotta get in on the ground floor and buy stretches of space land anon.

>>15781380
freedom is only remotely possible in open ecospheres. the confines of the space cities will be totalitarian hellholes of every variety

>>15781396
>deport
how? they'd have to land and come to me to do that
>cut off your supplies
if things aren't fully isru in 200 years something has gone terribly wrong.
There is realistically no threat to me other than an attack from orbit.

>>15781404
You arent going to be alive in 200 years you fat retard Im talking about in our lifetimes.

>>15781405
You can't just tell that to trans(lol)humanist futurism copers anon.

>>15781403
>Open ecospheres
>Managed, owned and land taxed by the occupying government

Enjoy your McFreedom(tm)

>>15781405
then I guess just cope with the fact that in a couple of generations, your descendants won't have to take orders from e*rth.

>>15781405
Ok so I guess maybe we just have to plan a little ahead into the future?....

>>15781405
there is a chance from both longevity research and mindupload

NASA selects SpaceX for rideshare launch of smallsat mission, Rosetta crashed into a comet purposefully 7 years ago
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https://spacenews.com/nasa-selects-spacex-for-rideshare-launch-of-smallsat-mission/
> WASHINGTON — NASA has selected SpaceX to launch a pair of smallsats to study space weather as part of a rideshare mission in 2025.
> NASA announced Sept. 29 that it awarded SpaceX a task order to launch the Tandem Reconnection and Cusp Electrodynamics Reconnaissance Satellites (TRACERS), a pair of smallsats that will study space weather and the magnetosphere from low Earth orbit.
> NASA selected TRACERS in 2019 as a heliophysics Small Explorer, or SMEX, mission, with a cost of no more than $115 million. At the time it was planned to launch as a secondary payload with another SMEX mission, the Polarimeter to Unify the Corona and Heliosphere (PUNCH). In August 2022, though, NASA said that PUNCH would fly on the same Falcon 9 as an agency astrophysics mission, the Spectro-Photometer for the History of the Universe, Epoch of Re-ionization, and Ices Explorer (SPHEREx) in 2025.
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https://www.space.com/39251-on-this-day-in-space.html
> On This Day In Space: Sept. 30, 2016: Rosetta spacecraft crashes into a comet
> Rosetta launched in 2004 and spent 10 years chasing down Comet 67P, a rubber-duck-shaped space rock that orbits the sun between Earth and Jupiter.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1708298178754490608

https://twitter.com/cb_doge/status/1708311527693152408

>>15781555
who else could have launched them? 2 quite large smallsats into 500km SSO means no rocketlab even if electron wasn't grounded, or really any other small launcher (firefly alpha and rocket 4 don't have the performance either); ESA's vega is grounded; not sure how many Atlas Vs are left but that would be a ludicrous waste of an expendable and nearly extinct medium launcher (lmaoing at the upcoming kuiper launch)

the launch market is currently so fucked that falcon 9 is the ONLY reasonable choice for any payload from 150kg to 15,000kg, and it will stay that way for probably 2(weeks) years

>>15781575
maybe india or japan?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNVfYWZdKQM&

schizo kino just dropped

>>15781587
I'm not watching half an hour of this repulsive looking seething faggot. At least greentext your garbage shill thunderfaggot

Why is Betelgeuse flickering so much? I was out looking at Jupiter and Saturn with my antique telescope and just happened to noticed Betelgeuse going wild compared to anything else in the sky; It's not just atmospheric effects because even the other stars in Orion were quite stable for me but Betelgeuse was flashing and shifting colors like crazy

moon pic I took by just placing my phone camera directly over the scope's eyepiece, spherochromatism wasn't nearly as bad for the naked eye

>>15781596
probably more localised atmospheric effects in the area of the sky that it's in, the brightness of Betelgeuse itself only varies on a timescale of days

>>15781569
Is this a reminder or is it now ready ready?

>>15781602
well the FTS needs to be activated for instance

>>15781602
It needs to be destacked once more to install FTS and flight recorders but that's a trivial matter they will do after they get the loicense

>>15781569
This restack and back-and-forth about the FAA makes me think that Spacex is confident that they can shortcut this FWS thing somehow, be that through some procedure loophole or directly pressuring the FWS.
>Rubber-stamp this environmental review or Elon is going to stand in a corner of your office and autism-stare until you're finished

>>15781618
well its absolute horseshit anyway
130 days to see if water is bad for a wetland? really?

pt. 2

>>15781623
Stop

>>15781623
the FAA has a decapitated alien head on their wall? lmao

https://twitter.com/peterrhague/status/1708422669505355887

>>15781629
I like this guy

>>15781308

>>15781587
Thunderfaggot on heavy duty tryhard. Motherfucker go get an actual degree and publish instead of constantly pointing to the one time you showed up in the footnotes of a single fucking paper.

>>15781660
How often do they use those window covers?

>>15781660

>>15781629
>increase its Service Module's delta-V
What are you implying?

>>15781312
this faggot escaped
;_;

ChatGPT prefers SLS Block 2+EUS+Fregat for interplanetary missions

>>15781587
fuck off tendert0e

>>15781620
its a salt water wet land and they are dumping fresh water into it, it'll kill everything within a mile

>>15781717
the wet lands gets exterminated every time it rains? kek

>>15781728
yea ok rocket engines are the same as rain sir

>>15781740
its hot water mixed with CO2 that goes into a retention pond, basically fresh water

>>15781744
yes plants and frogs live on sparkling water

>>15781555
These backronyms are getting out of hand.

>>15781666
so that's what it was

>>15781607
if they activate the FTS, it will blow up

>>15781600
it was acting like this for the entire time I was out. Pretty stable air overall, to the naked eye no other stars in the sky were really flickering at all, much less than usual. Even brighter stuff that was much lower on the horizon like Vega or Beta Cygni were basically perfect pinpoints of light with no color shifting or wobble, and when viewing the Moon and Jupiter there was no heat ripple.

we might just barely beat last years record number of launches

whose we

>>15781396
>leave Mars
>get arrested by ?????
>get deported to ?????

>leave the asteroid belt
>get arrested by ?????
>get deported to ?????

Your comment is more of a science fiction writing prompt than an argument.

>>15781317
>99.9% of people will live on Earth 200 years from now
Granted, we aren't sure what the population will be in 200 years, but at the current count of approx 8 Bil people on earth, a mere 0.1% is still 8 million people. That's a good number for a mars (and moon?) colony.

>>15781405
The comment you were replying to specifically said in 200 years. You should be gassed, you retarded faggot.

>>15781838
SpaceX already beat their own record. and at this point in the year it’s pretty much a given we beat last years world total

>>15781848
>america china russia europe japan north korea south korea india iran israel
rest of the world are you even trying?

Staged heavier than air craft that jettison expendable fuel tanks, engines, wings and fuselage

>>15781623
>>15781686
reminder that this retard is ban evading after getting completely wiped last thread
report it. if a janny rule 7's me so be it, just so long as this AI faggot gets permanently rangebanned.

>>15781596
You need to decode the signal. The future of humanity likely depends on it.

>>15781623
>FAA
>all white men
I doubt it

Happy Birthday 4chan

>>15781862
I'm pretty sure its a different person
not all AI posts were deleted in the last thread, only the completely off topic politics discussion (some politics is relevant to spaceflight, most isn't)

What is /sfg/s estimate for when more humans live off Earth than on Earth?

>>15781872
probably hundreds of years

>>15781872

>>15781872
Considering the population is flatlining and declining this century, and not due to lack of resources, never.

>>15781872
3-20 thousand years

>>15781868
US national politics is unfortunately all relevant now that it's clear the Democrats want to destroy Elon and keep the rest of us as their slaves here on Earth to be taxed and regulated at their whim--one parasite class controlling the productive workforce for the sake of, and in return for the votes of, another parasite class.

>>15781882
no all of it isn't relevant
when it boils over to something directly affecting spacex then maybe perhaps, but talking about abortion or unions or whatever would be off topic 99.99% of the time

>>15781872
As soon as there is 1) a breeding population of Chinese in space and 2) a way for them to build more habitats in space.

There are plenty of other nations that could outbreed them, but none with the ability to feed themselves, let alone build space colonies.

>>15781885
To add, not that it's inevitable that space will be 100% Chinese, but it puts an upper bound on how long it will take. If no one else does it first, the Chinese will eventually.

>>15781862
missed the quote by 1 post somehow, this >>15781691 is the evader
>>15781868
I don't want to turn into a collagefag-tier "every post I don't like is one guy" type schizo, but I really do believe it's just one person and the mods just weren't thorough enough with their cleansing fires. some clearly political off-topic AI posts last thread were missed, which makes me think this ... thing, was swapping IPs ahead of time like it knew it would be deleted.
/sfg/ needs a dedicated janny as one of the only threads on this board with any quality left. I miss the days of somewhat board-specific mods/jannies.

>>15781857
India's doing fairly well for itself at least, but if they never move past solid/hypergolic first stages they probably won't be a major player like US/Rus/CNSA
>>15781629
was really hoping Bechtel's absolute fuckup with ML-2 would be enough to kill Block 1B, but either way it's going to be severely delayed by the nobile launcher issues even if everything else goes perfectly. Artemis IV is going to be NET 2030 by the time A-III launches

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aZILglrpCM

I've lost interest in IFT-2 at this point lol

>>15781938
Hopefully our grandchildren will enjoy the livestream :-)

>>15781746
They do now.

>>15781938
make an X account

>>15781872
Considering that North America, a paradise on Earth, still has smaller population than Europe, probably never.

https://twitter.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1708352505359274084

>>15781995
https://www.financialexpress.com/business/industry-musks-starlink-to-get-satellite-internet-licence-next-month-3256844/

> Official sources said that SpaceX, which operates Starlink, has complied with all the regulatory process like providing necessary information with regard to the location of satellites, data transfer and storage, plan for providing broadband services in India, among other things.

>>15781596
How is Taurus-Littrow the darkest location on the entire moon?

https://twitter.com/WatcherGuru/status/1708496503965200408

>>15781995
India has ~1.5B people.

0.1% of Indians can easily afford Starlink. Thats 1.5 million. @ 50/m = $900M/y revenue.

>>15782005
Biden impeachment process has happening, aint no stoping

>>15782008
you could also use it as backhaul for 5g towers and the like, so the cost is distributed
I remember Musk mentioning something like that at some point and some news about looking into that, but that would obviously depend on how extensive the fiber and other backhaul infrastructure is in India

>>15782005
Spaceflight?

>>15782012
India has no fiber/backhaul infrastructure. The avg speed is low single digit Mb/s. Thats to be expected tho, given the extreme poverty + extreme population density utilization of the utilities.

They may partner with some Indian company or they may sell to users directly or through resellers. Depends on how India much freedom India would allow companies.

>>15782017
Oh and thats Megabits per second, not MegaBytes per second. Its absolutely slow as shit. They're at ISDN

>>15781995
I hope you sirs are ready for designated shitting inboxes and the calls from Microsoft Tech Support. My bobs are already open.

>>15782012
I think they actually did that in Japan

https://twitter.com/SERobinsonJr/status/1708509678072652079

> Did You Know SpaceX plans to have a minimum fleet of 1,000 Starships. It's true! In order to have a thriving colony on Mars, this is what it will take. The Starfactory at Starbase, once completed, is projected to build a Starship every 72 hrs.

just like the fleet of thousands of falcons lol

elon musk's army of starships is a danger to national security

>>15781995
>>15781997
Big considering the Indians are part of OneWeb and do not care about "free market." India also makes the FAA/EPA look like a fucking rocket.

>>15781995
https://transformersrave.ytmnd.com/

>>15782029
Starships are going to be out of commission for a long time while they are on the way to Mars and back
fundamentally different

They need to pivot to florida
This nonsense about building on the mexican border in a nature preserve is silly

>>15782042
Florida will be a shitshow with the launch cadence they have planned.

>>15782008
I could easily see unconnected rural communities putting together the money for a starlink subscription to share
Even if they won't do it themselves, it's an easy win for governments to get people better access to internet

>>15782042
they are going to launch from both
after this review, I don't think there is really much left assuming the water deluge system works
higher than 5 launches a year might mean a new review, but maybe not

>>15782047
>we launch rockets so we can give internet access to rural indians

thank you for doing the needful sirs

>>15782046
No it won't because the launch cadence they have planned is literally already licensed at Kennedy. Starbase is just an R&D testing ground and will never see regular flights, except maybe if some insane reason it's cheaper to fly newly built starships between pads than it is to put them on a barge.

>>15782055
Boca Chica is going to be turned into a proper launch site eventually

>>15782058
Not according to any sort of plans or permits or even the size of the physical location

>>15781587
If you're going to post thundercuck at least give a summary

>>15782055
>the launch cadence they have planned is literally already licensed at Kennedy.
They have a license for 16 times a day?

>>15781868
None of the AI posts were banned

>>15782029
they need more drone barges and recovery ships; f9 launch cadence is soon going to run into a huge bottleneck with the ocean side of operations. more than 150 launches per year is impossible with their current fleet, and with how reliable f9 is (15+ launches per booster easily) and at their current cadence they don't need any more to keep up. with the average booster turnaround time being a bit over 1 month on average, even just 40 falcon 9s would comfortably be able to support daily launches, as in literally one launch evey day 365 days a year

there really aren't enough payloads to justify that many launches; even tripling their starlink v2mini production wouldn't be enough and once SSH is online the minis are obsolete so going all in on them would be a waste of resources better allocated elsewhere

I would bet their experience with ocean vessel upkeep and the long delays with ports and especially transit times are a big part of them abandoning the oil rigs - the likely multiple months of downtime that moderate modifications which need a dock would cause, not to mention refuelling them at sea would suck ass and take forever. There are many good reasons for starship being 100% RTLS, but one of the biggest ones is probably just entirely avoiding the need for boats

>>15782062
the beach is about 11.75km long from the border into the shipping lane, the current launchpad is in about the middle (4.5km from the border)
cape canaveral has launchpads about 620m apart, so you could easily fit at least a few pads on the boca chica beach

>>15782068
Currently they can only launch starship from boca chica few times a year.

>>15782068
https://public.ksc.nasa.gov/environmental/starshipsuperheavy/
I don't think there's a limit to how frequently they can launch, but you're free to read through it all

>>15782075
Anon, they can't expand anymore in boca chica.

>>15782075
ok but they don't own the beach so they can't just pave the whole place

The cape doesn't launch vehicles simultaneously and have multiple vehicles on pads at once either

What happened to these guys? They launched an asteroid mining technology demonstrator back in June and never said anything about the results if the tech worked. They are supposed to launch a deep space mission to an asteroid this month or next month piggybacking off some other lunar lander but nothing but radio silence.

What’s going on?

>>15782082
not yet, that can change for instance if space launches become a very significant source of income for the state

>>15782084
eminent domain nigga

>>15782075
beaches are public property in Texas, you can't own them or build on them. It's in their constitution.

>>15782093
you don't need to build on the beach to build more launchpads, the current one isn't right on the beach either
you could have "temporary" restrictions about getting onto the beach due to launches, just like there are now

>>15782095
>temporary restrictions 10 times a day
>also for 50 miles out to sea

??

Do you see how they've built down there? How cramped they are?

luckily texas has no zoning rules so they can just buy all the land in some small town and turn it into a factory, and build a launch pad on land plotted for a beach side strip mall

>>15782042
SpaceX won't be able to launch from Florida until they prove that Starship can safely reach orbit.
Read the room.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9_4sqH5yNk

they don't need to build any more launch pads in Texas—they already have Kennedy

>>15781746
it's what wildlife caves

Just give the cape to spacex

>>15781862
>newfags don't know about muh "moot is a faggot"

Simply demolish Padre Island for more launchpad space

>>15782103
If you're just going to post an image of the video, get the actual thumbnail instead of the taking a screenshot of it.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/A9_4sqH5yNk/maxresdefault.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/[video id here]/maxresdefault.jpg

>>15782123
cool

>>15781995
>>15781997
i wonder what dark deal elon had to make to get this approved

>>15781995
UNLEASH the bharap upon the world

https://twitter.com/torybruno/status/1708506809198145569

>>15782117
I quoted the wrong post ok, that and the AI spammer's shit are right next to each other

>>15782146
SNAKES

>>15782146
Just modify Crew Dragon then. It would still cost less than Orion.

>>15782146
is there really more to this than just sticking a minifridge and maybe a nicer toilet in dragon?

>>15782153
no

>>15782146
I'm starting to really fucking hate his guts
every time he posts or opens his little snake mouth to utter more venomous lies, I hope iust that little bit more that BE-4s are incapable of flight and vulcan entirely puts ULA out of business forever, just so I can watch this decrepit old crybaby eat his stupid fucking cowboy hard hat in front of a congressional hearing

AKA4K4

>>15782146
>says it's prevented by physics
>when confronted he immediately switches to another topic
This nigger.

>>15782062
>build a starship factory
>build one starship per day
>can only launch 5 starships per year
>put the rest in the mail or something, idk lol

>>15782118
This, but Mexico

By the time SpaceX gets papers for the necessary launch cadence the entire 1000 ship fleet will be complete no doubt

>>15782062
>>15782176
You realize that a permit can be modified?

>>15782178
demolish all of Mexico for launchpad space?
Seems excessive, but if it has to be done, it has to be done

just you guys watch, by the end of next year we'll have a dozen starship flights completed

>>15782183
Yes, and I'm assuming that is what will happen

They'd better fucking leave the full stack in place for the next two weeks
https://www.expressnews.com/news/article/2023-solar-eclipse-texas-beach-17864118.php
you cannot even comprehend the kino of starship with a godly halo of fire, it's unimaginable without seeing it
hopefully one of the NSF weenies (one that isn't obsessed with HDR) lines up a good shot, or maybe labpadre/RGV

>>15781301
Hey you disgusting Elon faggots, how's that Starship going? About as well as Boring Company and Solar City huh?

https://youtu.be/CMNry4PE93Y?si=APQLR0tcn72WBsWN

Stopgap spending bill includes FAA learning period extension

https://spacenews.com/stopgap-spending-bill-includes-faa-learning-period-extension/
> WASHINGTON — A short-term funding bill passed at the last minute includes a three-month extension of the “learning period” limiting regulations on commercial spaceflight participant safety.
> The House of Representatives and the Senate passed Sept. 30 a continuing resolution (CR) funding the federal government through Nov. 17. The bill passed by wide margins in both chambers and was signed into law by President Biden hours before the federal government would have faced a shutdown from a lapse of appropriations at the start of the 2024 fiscal year.
> Included in the CR was a three-month reauthorization of the Federal Aviation Administration, whose previous authorization was also expiring at the end of September. Congress has been debating, but has yet to finalize, a long-term reauthorization for the agency.
> The expiration of the learning period would not instantly lead to any regulations regarding the safety of spaceflight participants on commercial spacecraft. In an interview in September, Kelvin Coleman, associate administrator of commercial space transportation at the FAA, envisioned a long-term process to develop regulations, starting with a space-related aerospace rulemaking committee established this summer that includes members of industry and academia to begin studies of potential future regulation.
> “Regulations take years to really do, and do right,” he said. “In my view, really to get it right you need somewhere between three to five years.”

>>15782209
pretty good, the boring company is doing pretty well too actually
solar city hasn't existed for almost 10 years now

the axiom station looks so cramped

>>15782161
kek

>>15782213
>envisioned a long-term process to develop regulations, starting with a space-related aerospace rulemaking committee established this summer that includes members of industry and academia to begin studies of potential future regulation.
>regulations take years to really do, and do right
>In my view, really to get it right you need somewhere between three to five years
I HATE BOOMERS

I HATE BOOMERS

I HATE BOOMERS

I HATE BOOMERS

TOTAL REGULATION DESTRUCTION

>>15782228
That looks like the pressure vessel, so the interior has a .5m-1m smaller interior diameter than that at least if the ISS is any guide

>>15781675
It's kind of hilarious that even with Orion, the ESM and the ICPS/EUS there's a huge interstage empty space and extra payload capacity they aren't using. It really boggles the mind why they left that payload unused -- did they really anticipate needing to launch with a lander attached, Apollo-style?

>>15782209
go home Jeff, you're drunk

>>15782209
>Holden:
>You're in a desert, walking along in the sand when all of a sudden you look down...

>Leon:
>What one?

>Holden:
>What?

>Leon:
>What desert?

>Holden:
>It doesn't make any difference what desert, it's completely hypothetical.

>Leon:
>But, how come I'd be there?

>Holden:
>Maybe you're fed up. Maybe you want to be by yourself. Who knows? You look down and see a tortoise, Leon. It's crawling toward you...

>Leon:
>Tortoise? What's that?

>Holden:
>You know what a turtle is?

>Leon:
>Of course!

>Holden:
>Same thing.

>Leon:
>I've never seen a turtle. (pause) But I >understand what you mean.

>Holden:
>You reach down and you flip the tortoise over on its back, Leon.

>Leon:
>Do you make up these questions, Mr. Holden? Or do they write 'em down for you?

>Holden:
>The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over but it can't. Not without your help. But you're not helping.

>Leon:
>WHAT DO YOU MEAN, I'M NOT HELPING?

>Holden:
>I mean you're not helping! Why is that, Leon?

>Holden:
>They're just questions, Leon. In answer to your query they're written down for me. It's a test, designed to provoke an emotional response. (pause) Shall we continue?

>>15782034
I sure hope nothing comes up that brings the specter of FCPA into things. India is notorious for its deals. There were some pretty wild things going on when France was trying to sell them the Rafale for example

https://www.mediapart.fr/en/journal/international/080421/rafale-papers-explosive-documents-france-india-jets-deal

>>15782289
lol
that looks pretty gay

Starshield – SpaceX’s Dark Horse

https://chrisprophet.substack.com/p/starshield-spacexs-dark-horse

> Starshield Development Timeline:

https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-satellite-constellation-construction-interest-us-military/
>November 2018: SpaceX begin to hire “engineers familiar with integrating third-party payloads onto in-house satellite buses, with Top Secret security clearances.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Starlink_and_Starshield_launches#Starshield
>January - June 2022: SpaceX launch prototype Starshield satellites to test operational capabilities.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0qQ76Fp1Os
>July 2022: The Aerospace Corp launch Slingshot-1, a satellite designed to test modular payloads, laser communications and their “Starshield onboard malware detection software.”
https://spacenews.com/spacex-rolls-out-new-business-line-focused-on-military-satellite-services/
>December 2022: SpaceX announce they are building Starshield, a “secured satellite network for government entities.”
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/27/spacex-wins-first-pentagon-contract-for-starshield.html
>September 2023: Space Force purchase Starshield satellite services.

>>15782336
> In December 2022 SpaceX revealed they were developing a constellation of defense satellites called Starshield for an unknown client. This work is highly confidential and cutting edge, which fits the modus operandi for the Aerospace Corporation – who appear to have contributed materially to the development process. The Starshield bus is a pantechnicon, capable of carrying a variety of Earth observation and sensing payloads designed for Low Earth Orbit (LEO), supported by high bandwidth laser communications and advanced encryption software.
> It is rumored the Starshield constellation will be comprised of 400 satellites, although more could be produced relatively quickly via SpaceX’s mass production line.
> Due to its low operating altitude and relatively large number of satellites, Starshield should be a godsend for the military, allowing real time, high definition, continuous observation of anywhere on Earth.
> Given each satellite is designed to host modular payloads it seems almost inevitable some facility for electronic surveillance will be added given the constellation’s reach.
> AI Upgrade – SpaceX would effectively curate the vast amount of data collected by Starshield which would then need to be processed by AI to identify valuable information for the US military and intelligence community.
> Quite possibly this AI would be operated by SpaceX, given their access to Tesla’s DOJO technology, which has enormous compute power and specifically designed to process real world data. Essentially the US government would pay SpaceX to create a shockingly powerful computer, capable of solving complex engineering problems almost as a hobby.

>>15782213
is this an inbetween bill to stop government shutdown?

>>15781812
Surrender your quarters, human.

>>15782361
yes

>>15782361
That's what "stopgap" means, yes.

>>15782213
there should be separate periods for suborbital and orbital. suborbital could probably end in 4 years from now, but orbital could take 10+ years.

>>15782361
It is. +45 days means guaranteed IFT-2, right?

>>15782209
BRB, going to smash this cute little guy under my heel

https://twitter.com/ThePrimalDino/status/1708551111655805004

>>15782414
no, fws has 135 days from when it was announced so it could still very well be over, AND they can request further environmental study which could mean another YEAR is ticked off. starship launch cadence may look EXACTLY like falcon launch cadence desu, history often repeats itself in one way or another.

>>15782439
Curious how a fat fuck defends pork barrel project.

>15782439
nobody gives this retard the delicious (You)s he wants, bait posters fuck off.

>>15782445
see >>15782447 for future bait posts anon

This should be able to work

>>15782470
I don't see why not

>>15782445
>>15782439
A friendly reminder that the SLS stan in question admits to arguing in bad faith.

>>15782470
what are the advantages of this configuration again?

>>15782486
More thrust from a RDE, makes it more mass efficient

throw all bait posters in the hot stage ring during liftoff

new 'bucket
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaF6A4aR5sI&ab_channel=TheSpaceBucket

>>15782524
off topic kys now faggot we dont want to see your lazy ai posts either.

>>15781369
Just a PSA for the general: I feel like >we have spent so much time looking at Starship that we have just grown used to it. But take a second to stop and actually look at this thing. It's a super heavy lift rocket. It's fucking INSANE
This private company is building a rocket bigger than the Saturn fucking V. And it looks like this. Completely reusable. Wow

>>15782527
people can get used to anything

>>15782527
Starship is the Ocarina of Time of rockets. I will not elaborate on what I mean by this

>>15782527
no i think you dont know where you are because we know how fucking massive it is if you are in this general. you clearly dont understand how closely we track this shit even normies know how big this is with how many comparisons the actual spacex account itself posts of development. this sounds like some fucking redditor post like "can we take a minute to appreciate X for how Y it is?" so im gonna say go back.

>>15782525
>we
Fuck off, schizo

>>15782534
just stop ban evading and make actual good posts.

Saturns rings probably the result of two icy moons colliding

https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2023/10/saturn-rings/
> New research provides explanation for the origin of Saturn’s rings and icy moons
> Recent research conducted by NASA and its partners using supercomputer simulations is shedding light on the origins of Saturn’s iconic rings and mysterious icy moons. Scientists believe the rings began forming from a massive impact between two icy moons, all the way back when dinosaurs were still roaming around the surface of Earth.
> The massive amounts of debris from the collision were then caught by Saturn’s gravitational pull and then began wrapping around the planet to produce the rings we all know and love today. What’s more, debris that didn’t get caught in the rings likely went on to form some of Saturn’s icy moons.
> Saturn’s current rings are situated close to the planet within Saturn’s Roche limit, which is the distance from a planetary body within which a second planetary body will disintegrate due to the tidal forces from the first planetary body exceeding the gravitational forces of the second planetary body. When simulating the collision and the formation of the rings, Teodoro et al. discovered that a significant amount of the collision scenarios scattered and distributed the right amount of debris around Saturn and within the Roche limit, which then led to the formation of the rings.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey5X-h4htHQ

>>15782546
>(Pic) Rhea in front of Saturn and its rings
> Scientists believe that the extremely small effects of the Sun’s gravity on the moons could have added up to slightly destabilize their orbits around Saturn, leading to a collision. When moons are in the right orbital configuration around their planets, the extra gravitational pull exerted on the planet and its moons by the Sun can have a snowballing effect. This effect is called a resonance, and it can lead to the elongation and tilting of the moons’ orbits. In the case of Saturn’s two former moons, a resonance led to their orbits being changed to where their paths crossed, which led to the collision that formed Saturn’s rings and moons.
> One of Saturn’s present-day moons, named Rhea, orbits just beyond the point at which a moon could encounter this resonance. Given that Saturn’s moons, like Earth’s moon, slightly move farther and farther from Saturn in every orbit they complete, Rhea had to have crossed the resonance recently. However, the moon’s orbit is still extremely flat and circular, which suggests that Rhea wasn’t subjected to the effects of the resonance and had to have formed more recently, astronomically speaking.

>>15782546
Huh. I always thought it was because a moon or two got within the Roche limit but yeah that would make sense too.

>>15782546
>>15782549
> moons are orbiting for 4.4 billion years without mishap
> 100 million years ago they collide
this story stinks, very fishy

>>15782611
scientists dont know shit, and astronomers/cosmologists are the most clueless of all

>>15782611
Saturn has like 90 moons. it could lose 2 every hundred million years or so and only have started with ~130

>>15782616
like anyone in this general knows any better on the subject, including you.

>>15782058
Boca Chica is right at sea level. How can Musk think it will ever be able to be a launch site in the long term if he thinks that global warming is real? Rising sea levels should be swamping Boca Chica fairly soon according to the global warming narrative.

>>15782638
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands

>>15782638
plenty of time to react

>>15782638
so is KSC, along with everything on the coastline that continues to get built or go up in price. gee its almost like global warming isnt nearly a big deal as people make it out to be and we already have permanent solutions to anything that may crop up. huh, i wonder who would profit from propping up the big scary monster of global warming, maybe its the scientists who keep getting grants to say it, or the politicians that continue to benefit in popularity with their base from giving those scientists grants to keep away the big scary monster.
its a problem, but not one that is nearly as bad as its made out to be, and already has solutions that can be copied when needed. key word, when needed. if it was really as bad as envirocels make it out to be then florida would already be halfway underwater like they predicted decades ago since basically everything is at sea level.

>>15782519
I thought that channel was just ai generated slop?

>>15782659
its a guy that sums up some topics that people who arent as avid in to space developments would really appreciate. not ai generated, just some dude who doesnt really have a big vocal range (atleast i think). i occasionally find tidbits i didnt know from watching 'bucket vids so its atleast nice to go through topics youre interested in every now and then with his channel. its not literaly ai generated slop like "GREAT SPACEX" or whatever that fucking channel with an all caps name is. no i am not a paid shill i am sharing my honest opinion here.

>>15782665
yeah its good information usually but nothing new so I don't bother to watch it much
I read a lot of articles though

>>15782657
It's all just a fucking religion. If Climate Jesus was never going to show up and punish us for our Carbon Sins there'd be a lot less reason to listen to the politician in the pulpit when it comes time to pass the collection plate.

>>15782633
I'm a genius

>Ron Parker wants his COPV from IFT1 back. It was seized by CBP Brownsville crossing last night & is already promised to a museum.

https://twitter.com/BocasBrain/status/1708610435384291570?t=mCf2fDuRS0Vv6ABML_pRyg&s=19

>>15782161
The physics of transporting 550 liters of oxygen per person per day

>>15782716
Why would anyone advertise this lol. just take it and keep your mouth shut

Will the U.S. hit 100 successful this year?

>>15782192
starship is never getting off the ground, anon. the design does not work and can never fly.

god i really wish baitposts were bannable

>>15782723
gonna say no, because they only just this month achieved 10 flights/month and the holidays are coming up so i dont think they will be getting that final little bit in

>>15782716
Imagine trying to take something ITAR controlled across an international border

>>15782289
Russia was unironically good for India, only nation willing to black mail politicians into arming the nation.

>>15782726
Just like falcon, right?

>>15782721
>oxygen scrubbers don't exist
Damn, better tell those apollo nerds to pack it up.

>>15782716
> "his COPV"
Lmao

>>15782776
ACAB
(All COPVs Are Belong to me)

>>15782153
You need more room to move around or else you're gonna get the cramping of a lifetime.

>>15782790
fuck off ban evading ai tard.

>>15782790
Go back

>>15782028
> Did You Know I plans to have a minimum sperm capacity of 1,000 liters in my balls. It's true! In order to have a thriving army of obedient workers for my Starfactory base, this is what it will take. My balls, once women realize my charm, are projected to plow and fertilize a woman every 72 hrs.

>>15782716
Legitimate salvage. Government fucking thieves.

>>15782765
>Just like falcon, right?
Tom Mueller quit SpaceX in 2020 to distance himself from Elon's retarded bullshit.

tick tock

>>15782831
Mueller left to try and capitalize on SpaceX's launch capability, Impulse's entire business plan is "SpaceX will put stuff into orbit for us cheap"

>>15782028
only every 72 hours? Cmon Elon Airbus cranks out 2 A320-family aircraft every DAY

>>15782832
stop replying to bait posts numbskull youre giving him exactly what he wants.

>>15782831
*tiktok

>>15782146
Last year I thought Tony was cool
Now I see he's just like the rest of oldspace

>>15782840
He's a good engineer but he's a good CEO first and that means wearing Lockheed and Boeing's leashes at the same time. Part of that is speaking the party line when he's in public. He could be more honest and not say anything but being mildly active on social media was something he walked into and is probably expected of him now.

>>15782831
Meuller was leaving SpaceX back in 2017-2018 and just stuck around for a while for a slow retirement. He had no real job after Merlin development. Raptor engine development was largely left to new engineers without a main lead.

>>15782834
Can they... get to orbit? Right now they're not exactly cranking out a lot of Ariane 6 rockets.

>>15782851
Lots of people forget how old the average graybeard in aerospace is

All these people are old enough to have worked on the Shuttle in the 70s and 80s as well as all those DC-X guys in the 90s

>>15782790
starship troopers...

>>15782519
>>15782659
>>15782665
>>15782671
video from 1 year ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TztppS1TD1Y
it's 100% ai generated slop tube, I don't know how people can't recognize these new AI voice synthesis programs since I never seem to have any trouble with that; at least the old ones are extremely obvious, even to the ear-blind

>>15782865
you're talking to chatgpt dude

also why does this bother you? are you aFrAiD

>>15782865
lmao I fucking told /sfg/ this shit was fishy a long time ago. the video durations are almost all within seconds of 8 minutes. some of the videos it is indeed harder to tell, except that the content is just regurgitated garbage anyway

>>15782865
damn nevermind yeah thats ai generated for sure. newer stuff doesnt at all sound ai generated so either the technology has gotten to that point or they swapped in somebody new instead.
>>15782868
hey there faggot. i exist, people make mistakes and i admit it doesnt mean im chat gpt for not recognizing the difference

>>15781849
>get arrested by Space Cops
>get deported to Detroit

>>15782870
I fully expect my dad to be watching AI generated christian conspiracy news in 1 year and be none the wiser

>>15781872
Right after the population of Earth is wiped out with cobalt bombs (approcks 2050)

>>15782723
FIVE FAILURES?
ok, without looking it up:
1x Neutron
1x Terran 1
1x ... uhh...

oh yeah, a Firefly Alpha
... hmm, maybe both Alpha failures were this year
And did Astra 'launch' something this year? That would be 5
Shitipedea had better not be counting IFT-1, that flight plan was always suborbital and retconning the OFT name was the right decision by SpaceX/Elon

>>15782872
the new stuff is also 100% AI, I posted that old video as evidence of what the channel has always been. I don't really get people being incapable of differentiating between this new AI speech synthesis wave and real human speech, it rarely takes me even 10 seconds to be absolutely certain it's just a program. Maybe I'm like one of those face super-recognizers but for voices instead

>>15782865
"The Space Bucket" YouTube channel specializes in indoor cannabis cultivation. However, it faces several noteworthy criticisms. Firstly, the legality of the content is a concern, as cannabis laws vary by location, potentially leading to legal issues. Secondly, the channel's content quality is inconsistent, which can be frustrating for viewers seeking clear guidance, especially beginners. Additionally, its production values and presentation often appear amateurish compared to more polished channels, which can deter potential viewers.

Scientific accuracy is another area where improvement is needed. Growing cannabis requires a deep understanding of various factors, such as lighting, nutrients, and environmental control, which "The Space Bucket" sometimes oversimplifies. This could lead to costly mistakes for viewers.

Furthermore, the channel's strict focus on one growing method, the "space bucket," limits its appeal and relevance in a rapidly evolving field. There are newer, more advanced cultivation methods and technologies worth exploring and explaining to viewers.

Lastly, community engagement could be improved. Fostering a sense of community and addressing viewer comments and questions is crucial for building a loyal and supportive fan base.

In conclusion, while "The Space Bucket" serves a niche audience, it has room for improvement. Legal concerns, inconsistent content quality, a lack of scientific depth, a narrow focus, and limited community engagement are areas to address. To reach its potential, the channel should consider these issues and evolve its content strategy.

>>15782892
blatant chatgpt
mods, please rangeban this off topic cretin

>>15782892
everyone remember to buy this 'off topic' retard an all expense paid for vacation.

>>15782883
maybe, i really just cant tell the difference because the voice doesnt even try to go into different vocal ranges. like i just tried giving a listen to the newer stuff to see if i can find clear signs of ai voices but i just personally cant differentiate from some monotone fucker and this ai. i guess ill just have to use context clues fno like the 8 minute mark stuff that anon mentioned earlier. still learn some stuff from it but now that i know its ai ill probably look for a real person to find info from. slogging through labpadre or nsf is kinda sucky though.

I'll be taking some of those (you)s, thank you in advance

>15782922
not getting this one you little bastard. i keep telling you retards to STOP FEEDING THEM (You)S. THIS ONE EVEN SPELLS IT OUT AND YOU RATS KEEP RESPONDING TO BAIT.

>>15782923

>-17% transfer time
>or +19% payload
Nuclear bros, we are so fucking back.
Even the chinks are making their own.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDUtaQFXFhc

>>15782927
2050 first prototype rocket by nasa. no commercial companies will ever use it thanks to red tape surrounding anything nuclear.

WHERE THE FUCK IS THE LICENSE FAA I WANNA SEE ANOTHER BIG KABOOM

>>15782987
lmao
https://spacenews.com/stopgap-spending-bill-includes-faa-learning-period-extension/
>Included in the CR was a three-month reauthorization of the Federal Aviation Administration, whose previous authorization was also expiring at the end of September. Congress has been debating, but has yet to finalize, a long-term reauthorization for the agency.
They were THIS close to just ending the FAA altogether

>>15783009
that's a good thing you idiot
because once that learning period ends the REAL regulations start setting in
also the NTSB gets some control and lol if you think the FAA is bad wait till they get a hand in

>>15781317
Until we solve the EARTHER problem. Then the numbers will even out.

Is Artemis' fate being entirely replaced after the first HLS landing and demonstration of orbital refueling? If Starship weighs 100 tons and crew systems weigh a conservative ~20 tons, then it could still being ~20 tons to lunar orbit and back. Even if a starship launch costs as much as an expendable falcon heavy launch of $150 million, launching and refueling a starship would cost >1.5x less than an SLS launch of orion. I see zero justification for the Artemis program to continue as it is when Starship becomes capable of orbital refueling, yet NASA relies on HLS achieving orbital refueling to even complete any Artemis mission after Artemis 2. It makes no sense.

>>15782987

>>15783066
Probably yeah once congress starts to look at the state of Artemis and says "cut funding and do what you all did with ISS human flight". Handing it off to SpaceX at that point will just be the cheapest option, which means that more will be cut from NASA which means their base who dont care about space enjoy paying less for the same results. Now that commercial spaceflight has finally taken off there will be no need to fly these missions themselves. That would be like having every public bus being built by the US government even after companies have been in place that can do the job for 10x cheaper than the government can. Nobody would support the government continuing to spend on it.

>>15783009
Strike the FAA down now and regulations will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine

>>15783094
Gay redditcel meme go back now. Picrel is a language you can understand

>>15783066
>>15783091
blue origin would open a portal into the deepest pit of hell just to find enough lawyers to overturn this

>>15783098
kys ai seether

https://x.com/vast/status/1707777524980220120
Dunno if this was shared yet but Vast continues work on their space station, first update since the picture of the hatch in June. Interesting stuff, video is cool and its good that work seems to be coming along.

>>15783098
How do you know all those reddit memes?

>>15783102
That's pretty cool. Don't know how 3km/s compares to the average micrometeor velocity but still impressive regardless.

>>15783101
Oh so this is ainegro? So lets list these off, you regularly post off-topic niggardry to derail these threads, you put no effort in to your posts and just spit out whatever random shit comes to mind further decreasing post quality, you constantly ban evade after being told to fuck off by everyone including mods, AND youre a tedditor? Holy shit you are nearly as bad as collagefag, just go the fuck back you are such a fucking plague on this general.

>>15783106
Nail on the head lmao. Kill yourself.

Often, NASA's poor architecture decisions stem from literal psychological trauma mixed with learned helplessness. SpaceX makes a good partner to counter the worst parts of that.
SpaceX: manic pixie schizo gf. NASA: stoic, pessimistic, careful bf.

>>15782916
Probably a real person collecting the info, its just that they don't want to speak perso ally and dont want to pay someone else
Youve seen stuff like that with bazzbatlles for instance, if its some east european guy with an incomprhensible accent, no one would watch the videos, but if he pays some fluent english speaker with a clear voice (or voice actor in general like tv shows do), you get a better product overall
Maybe the contnet is AI generated partly too though, havent watched enough of spacebucket to really notice

>>15783119
What is this faggy attempt at personifying a company and government organization and why are you trying to make the most on topic thing there is off topic. How the FUCK is NASA "psychologically traumatised and learnedly helpless"?? You scream new because I've never seen this even attempted here in at minimum half a year if not more.

>>15783125
Wow, you seem really mad

>>15783125
lol

This new wannabe janny is one of the worst posters.

>>15783125
What this Anon said, desu. Personifying government agencies and corporations and describing their partnership in human relationship terms is incredibly cringe.

/sfg/ is falling apart and its 4 days until a launch

>>15783153
What launch?

>>15783145
only autists don't personify EVERYTHING

>>15783157

>>15783165
>two useless launches
>another starlink
so? who cares

>>15783157
Falcon 9 and Vega launch it looks like

>>15783166
Psyche is October 12th of a Heavy which should be interesting. First major scientific mission since JUICE launch no?

>>15783165
Vega is interesting because it might explode again.

We still dont have jackshit for launch info on Polaris Dawn btw

>>15783160
personify deez nuts

>>15783166
I care for the landing.

>>15783173
Something something right nut is dominant something something left nut is submissive/bottom. Am I doing it right?

>>15783176
Immediate regret and shame, deleting now

>>15783176
>>15783180

>>15783169
>Psyche
who cares we already know that its just a rubble pile now

>>15783125
>I've never seen this even attempted here in at minimum half a year if not more
newfag

>>15783197
>archenemies
>amusing rivalry
KINO

>>15783197
>amusing rivalry

>>15783197
>lovers
also what are the implications of sisters docking with one another?

Only feasible way to store electricity for the grid

>>15783197
> competitors with mutual respect
this chart is completely delusional
Starship makes everything else look like a joke and so does SpaceX vehicles in general

>>15783225
wrong

>>15783197
Half of these bitches don't even exist.

https://twitter.com/AJ_FI/status/1708785294579736657
> China's crew lunar lander. Aiming to put astronauts on the Moon before 2030. #IAC2023

>the general dedicated towards the manifest destiny of all mankind has less competent jannies than the virtual youtuber board

Feels bad seeing one faggot relentlessly shit up the thread

>>15783247
who?

>>15783119
!

Today is my first day as an engineer in a satellite company. Today I'm HR's pet. They walk me around and give me my computer to setup. What shall I expect in the short term future?

>>15783247
make some hotpockets and go apply to be a janny, then.

>>15783254
Marriage, house and kids

>>15783243
>no hardware pics
i sleep

https://twitter.com/timmermansr/status/1708739791209033739

>>15783247
post more Shiori

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FidfZ8iOxw

> IAC 23 Baku - Day 1 - Part 2/2 - International Astronautical Congress

>>15783278
Meanwhile, Elon:

https://www.iafastro.org/events/iac/iac-2023/

>>15783283

>>15783281
talking about the new russian space station

>>15783254
Ordering you a mouse/keyboard and setting up building access.

The space station is expected to start launch in 2027 and will run through 2032

https://twitter.com/AJ_FI/status/1708728260803064203

lol

>>15783282
The only reason to pay to stream games would be less censorship. But Kick already exists and they'll let you do it for free.

>>15783294
which one has better distribution?
will probably come down to that, hard to say if this will become an actual competitor to twitch/youtube/kick though

Why not just use a laser for space debris?

>>15783254
Hopefully you will meet the people on the team that you will be working with. Your lead will often pair you up with an engineer who has been there for a bit to show you the ropes and answer your questions. Also for the first little while most of your work is probably going to be checked by someone on your team so they can give you feedback. Depending on the company they may have you meet with other groups or even help out with their work to familiarize yourself, depending on how interconnected the groups need to be.

>>15783293
doesn't seem spaceflight to me

>>15783303
https://twitter.com/AJ_FI/status/1708748701651399087

>>15783307
looks very gay, kind of thing bezos might enjoy.

https://twitter.com/jessica_kirsh/status/1708807834391957680

>>15783247
then how about you just go back to >>>/vt/ and take your retardation with you?

On This Day In Space: Oct. 2, 2015: 100th liftoff for United Launch Alliance, The Space Force should safeguard US interests on the moon (op-ed)
----
https://www.space.com/39251-on-this-day-in-space.html
> On Oct. 2, 2015, the United Launch Alliance launched its 100th rocket!
> The United Launch Alliance (ULA) is a private spaceflight company that was born in 2006 as a joint venture between Lockheed Martin and Boeing.
----
https://www.space.com/space-force-safeguard-us-interests-moon
> The potential for conflict beyond Earth is coming.
> But far sooner than many realize, the utility of Space Force will become far, far more than that. It represents not just a new tool to be used in traditional domains. It is an early key to assuring our interests in the new space domain of the solar system — one that dwarfs all the rest.
> The leadership of the Space Force must begin to prepare for the next war rather than just adding better tools to fight the last. With just a little imagination, they can begin preparing now to "secure our nation's interests" on the moon and elsewhere in cislunar space.
> We already know the intent of China in space. They tell us yearly in their Congresses and through announcements and utterings, such as a recent resource roadmap of the solar system published by one of their top scientists. (Let's be clear: nothing in China of such note gets "accidentally" published, nor are they ever just "thought" pieces.)
> For decades, we in the Frontier community have known that "ownership" (immediate dominant presence, if you will) of the lunar poles equals control of the inner solar system.

Any book recommendations? List anything you like (scifi or non-fiction)

>>15783408
Behold a Pale Horse by Miltion William Cooper

>The European Space Agency’s (ESA) Euclid space telescope, which launched in July this year to investigate the mysteries of dark matter and dark energy, has run into issues during its commissioning phase. Although the early calibration images looked good, since then the telescope has had problems with the instrument that helps it position itself by locking onto particular stars, called the Fine Guidance Sensor.

>>15783408
books are for nerds

>>15783421
I completely forgot this even launched. I might be demented. I hope ESA sorts this issue out so we can make good use of this cheap and powerful telescope.

>>15783421
fixable

>>15783344

>>15783282
Nice quality, it's nice to remember ~2010 stream quality

>>15783408
Phase Space by Stephen Baxter
Comfy little short stories revolving around space travel and other things

> The Smallwood Reservoir has a capacity of 33 cubic kilometres in a catchment area of about 72,000 square kilometres, an area larger than the Republic of Ireland.

>>15783491
>unscalable faggot technology
see related >>15783233

>>15783344
stinkpussy energy

>>15782739
...into the United States?
I don't think ITAR has import controls

>>15782874
a system in which 100% of suspects prefer suicide by hard vacuum or fighting to the death to being Detroited seems like it would take a heavy psychological toll on the brave men and women of the Space Cops

>>15783282
Ha. He knows Minecraft videos are 70% of why kids used Youtube back in the day

>>15783408
textbooks

>>15783408
For scifi i'd say Roadside picnic and Metro 2033-35 but I don't really read scifi books
Outside of scifi I'd recommend Master and Margarita by Bulkakov, War and Peace by Tolstoi, and Idiot by Dostojevski
Good non-fiction books would be "Letter to the leaders of the Soviet Union" by Solzhenitsyn and the NASA Archives

>>15783529
Which textbooks?

>Vega C won't return to flight until Q4 2024.
It is so over for Europe hahahahahhahahahhahahaha

>>15783197
>Starship and SLS Block 1
>Lovers
More like caliginous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvjy5wSY6XA

>>15783539
also interested

>majestic distant space swarm array of spaced out liquid-mirror solar lensing interferometric space probes in deep space, digital art, sci-fi

I try to generate my dream solar lens telescope but I dunno what keywords to feed the AI to inject the proper machinery any suggestions?

>>15783421
It'd be somewhat humorous to find out that their attempts to free the antenna broke the FGS

the best suggestion is you should kill yourself
go do it now. and none of that pussy wrist cutting shit; use a gun or snap your neck, make sure there's no chance of survival

>>15783513
https://deccs.pmddtc.state.gov/ddtc_public?id=ddtc_public_portal_itar_landing
>The ITAR (22 CFR parts 120-130) governs the manufacture, export, and temporary import of defense articles, the furnishing of defense services, and brokering activities involving items described on the USML(ITAR section 121.1).
https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-22/chapter-I/subchapter-M/part-121
>(26) Rocket or missile liquid propellant tanks (MT for those rocket or missile liquid propellant tanks usable in systems enumerated in paragraph (a)(1) of this category);

>mfw bar keeps re-loading

>>15783590

>>15783593
wrong thread, don't worry about it

>>15783596
check the tab before posting retard-kun

>>15783597
you're a stupid faggot who can't relate to others at all, try to work on that

>>15783602
why so hostile mr retard?
you just post like a retard without checking the thread you're in, not me

>>15783604
The point is: shit happens, you subanimal lump of dog shit. It happens to everyone, you can only be so mindful while trying to be efficient. If you weren't a sped you'd realize that

>>15783408
The Rediscovery of Man

the guy who wrote it was equally as fascinating as his writing
>Godfather by Sun Yat-sen
>Confidant to Chiang Kai-Shek
>founder of psychological warfare
>taught CIA how to spook

>>15783609
>it happens to everyone
not really, i hover my mouse over my tab for 1s to make sure im in the right general
literally skill issue
you're the subanimal lump of cat shit because you can't be fucking arsed to spend 1s before posting to make sure it's the right thread you're in

>>15783408
Airframe

I recommend it because it predicted the entire response to the 737MAX disaster

>>15783616
>n-not really!

>>15783619
i havent made your newfag error in multiple years now
stop being retarded

>>15783620
>i-i-in years!
>ergo it NEVER happens ergo it shouldn't have happened to you now
wow, you must hold a degree in statistic analysis or something, you're a real galaxy brain

>>15783626
NTA but its statistical analysis. Really proving your argument of being an idiot and not a newfag

>>15783549

https://spacenews.com/esa-delays-vega-c-return-to-flight-to-late-2024/
> ESA delays Vega C return to flight to late 2024
> WASHINGTON — The return to flight of Europe’s Vega C small launch vehicle has slipped to late 2024 after the European Space Agency concluded a rocket motor nozzle needs to be redesigned.
> ESA announced Oct. 2 the completion of an independent investigation into an anomaly that took place during a static-fire test of a Zefiro 40 motor June 28. That test was part of efforts to return the Vega C to flight after a December 2022 launch failure blamed on that motor.
> Giovanni Colangelo, ESA’s inspector general and chair of the committee that investigated the incident, said at a briefing that the performance of the motor was “more or less normal” until 39.7 seconds after ignition. At that point, a new throat insert made of carbon-carbon material was expelled from the nozzle, along with other pieces of the nozzle. The motor continued to burn, although at far lower pressures, until the fuel was exhausted.
> The test was intended to confirm the performance of the throat insert, which prime contractor Avio had replaced as part of the recommendations into the December 2022 launch failure. That investigation, released in March, concluded that carbon-carbon material from the original supplier, Ukrainian company Yuzhnoye, did not meet specifications. ArianeGroup now supplies the throat insert. At the time ESA hoped to resume Vega C flights by the end of 2023.
> Before the Vega C return to flight will be two launches of the original version of the Vega, which does not use the Zefiro 40 motor. The first is scheduled for Oct. 6, and will place into orbit the THEOS-2 Earth observation satellite for Thailand, the FORMOSAR-7R/TRITON radio occultation satellite for Taiwan and 10 smallsat second payloads.

>>15783610
>The Rediscovery of Man
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_the_People_Fell
>The setting is the type of benign Venus imagined before the first space probes penetrated the clouds of that planet. Colonization has become stymied by the native inhabitants (loudies), who are apparently sentient bubbles that float around the landscape, getting in the way of human progress. Attempts to communicate with them produce no response. Confining them is useless (they drift back) and killing them produces a deadly explosion that contaminates a thousand acres (4 km2). The non-Chinese authorities of the early Instrumentality government have no answer.
>The ruler of Goonhogo (the entity that replaced China under the early Instrumentality) decrees that 82 million Chinesians (men, women, and children) be dropped from space, parachuting down to the surface. Each one has a simple mission — herd the bubbles together. Many die in the process, both in landing and from the bubbles exploding. The rest corralled the loudies together into herds, where they eventually starve, wiping out the species. Meanwhile, more Chinese parachute down with rice seeds and begin planting. Eventually, by sheer weight of numbers, the Chinese conquer Venus.

The Economist to launch Space Economy Summit on Oct. 11-12, Spain's new cubesats will fly in space like a flock of geese
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https://www.space.com/the-economist-space-economy-summit-october-2023
> As access to space continues to expand and humanity prepares to return to the moon to establish a sustainable off-world presence, private companies are laying the groundwork for a new economy in space.
> Some of the topics that will be discussed at the summit include spaceflight sustainability and space debris mitigation, on-orbit manufacturing, Earth observation and long-term space commercialization and exploration. "While space has always captured imagination, its commercial, social, and environmental potential is now more tangible than ever," a press statement points out. "As the space industry continues to advance, the Space Economy Summit will highlight the vast opportunities it is enabling across sectors."
> Over 100 speakers from the space sector and beyond will share their ideas for a new off-world economy in over 60 sessions at the summit. Speakers include: Peter Beck, President and CEO of Rocket Lab; Dr Laurie Leshin, Director of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory; Sir Martin Rees, the Astronomer Royal of the United Kingdom; Lt. Gen. John E. Shaw of United States Space Command; and Dylan Taylor, Chairman and CEO of Voyager Space.
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https://www.space.com/spain-cubesat-fly-in-formation-like-geese
> Three fuel-free spacecraft will use algorithms and fringes of atmosphere to guide flight.
> Europe’s next launch will send a trio of CubeSats to Earth's orbit that mimic birds flying in formation.
> The endeavor, dubbed Advanced Nanosatellite Systems for Earth-observation Research, or ANSER, consists of three shoebox-sized satellites that will monitor Iberian waters as if they are a single, standard-sized satellite.

>>15783641
what the fuck lmao

>>15783646
> Rodriguez Bustabad explains that the trio will use a special navigation mechanism - developed for this mission in particular, known as "Differential Lift and Drag" maneuvers. For example, with these maneuvers, a spacecraft can increase its drag effect to produce a significant relative movement in orbit, maintaining control over the formation.

>>15783549
>>15783639
Lmfao

>>15783639
Are any Vega left? ESA really has become SpaceX's bitch.

>>15783639
I hate Europe so much it's unreal.

>>15783661
If I read the article correctly, it should be 2
one of them launching in 4 days, the other in 2024

>>15783639
>expelled from the nozzle, along with other pieces of the nozzle
This is your brain on SRBs. (webm only partly related)

>>15783648
don't reply to the eh-eye spam, just use the triangle and move on

>>15783666
But I heard that SRBs are cheap and easy...

>>15783639
Coupled with that successful Vega-G engine test they may just elect to retire the Vega-C

Dassault wants to order rocket engines from Rocket Lab for their military spaceplane

https://www.lalettrea.fr/entreprises_defense-et-aeronautique/2023/10/02/dassault-prospecte-des-fournisseurs-pour-son-futur-avion-spatial,110060237-art

>>15783678
>dassault's military spaceplane
drop the deets

>>15783680
It’s the talk of the town of 1994’s IAC

>>15783197
i hate this shit