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>Cripple 200.000 kids to save 0.5
Now that the dust has settled, was this bad science?

>> No.15757768

>>15757672
the plan is going as expected.
vaxed kids will be having children of their own in 20 years, all the female births will be sterile.
world population crisis = solved.

>> No.15757992

>>15757672
This has been deboonked as
MOSTLY FALSE*

*anon averaged the amount of kids saved but used the high end of the statistic for side effects. if he wanted to be consistent he would have also averaged the side effects and said only 150,000 teenagers suffered severe side effects for every 0.5 saved. please do your part and get vaccinated, it saves lives

>> No.15758015

>>15757768
But only in countries with already low birthrates?

>> No.15758017

>>15757672
>was this bad science?
It was bad policy.
As part of operation warp speed, Trump removed all legal liability for side effects caused by the vaccines.

This is my personal opinion but personally I think the worst part is because this was sanctioned by the government THE GOVERNMENT ultimately is liable. Which means the government has a vested interest in making sure nobody knows this is happening, while the pharma companies have a vested interest in selling as many shots as humanly possible before the shit hits the fan.

>> No.15758026

>>15758017
Trump like all presidents has no power, true power is held by the corrupt bureacrats

>> No.15758039

>>15758017
i thought the "no liability for vaccine side effects" thing was signed into effect by reagan in the mid 80s? (coinciding with the rapid addition of shots to the childhood vax schedule) that's what rfk jr says at least

>> No.15758091

>>15757672
Vax shit was ages ago but it might be interesting to see how many people expired because of fake vaccines or by drinking bleach (but not really eating horse paste because that's still medicine). Adding those on to the amount of people that died here and maybe it's a little more justified as something interesting and not so much scientifically fair

>> No.15758123

>>15757992
kys kike

>> No.15758180

>>15757672
>I have no idea how any of this weekend
>and I want everyone to know that

>> No.15758213

>>15758017
>Trump removed all legal liability for side effects caused by the vaccines.

Ah yes, Trump, definitely not the big-pharma bought FDA.

>> No.15758287

>>15758039
It was. What Trump did was relax (severely) the testing and trials required before widespread deployment.

>> No.15758292

>>15758091
>drinking bleach
Only one known case and that was a woman trying to murder her husband and use aquarium cleaner covid "treatment" to hide what she did.

>> No.15758360

>>15758292
Quinine? That has been used as medicine too by the way. I think even for opioids

>> No.15758379

>>15758360
Chloroquine phosphate. Interesting how many major news sites still have up their articles about him dying because Trump told him to take it but haven't updated the story with the detail his wife have it to him to murder him.

>> No.15758385 [DELETED] 

>>15758379
Trump told her to do it.

>> No.15758405

>>15757992
>teenagers
>side effects
How could they tell? Teens are crazy by definition

>> No.15758508

>>15758379
Not sure it was phosphate but I'm just talking about the aquarium thing. I suppose it could be

>> No.15758598

>>15757992
>150,000 teenagers suffered severe side effects for every 0.5 saved
I kek'd

>> No.15758604

>>15758508
That's what the BBC reported it to be.

>> No.15758632

>>15758604
Not sure then but I just hope they don't start banning all fish products or whatever they're trying to pullᕙ[・۝・]ᕗ

>> No.15758675

>>15757672
>10-20% SEVERE side effects
Sounds like a steaming load of bullshit.

>> No.15758680

>>15758015
>world white population crisis
whoops how'd that word get covered

>> No.15758688

>>15757672
I tried to find the tweet and it doesn't exist. I thought this was some misinformation campaign on Twitter, but not even. OP just made the whole thing up.

>> No.15758820

>>15757992
I fucking love the boonk factory that is snopes
>report: the vaxx caused 20 million birth defects
>snopes: MOSTLY FALSE. The vaxx only causes 19.9 million birth defects, so there is no basis for using the alarmist headline "20 million".

>> No.15759114 [DELETED] 

>>15757672
Yes, terrible and it wasn't an accident or a mistake either, it was done intentionally

>> No.15759307

>>15758820
Do you often win arguments against strawman in your head?

>> No.15759326

>>15758385
kek

>> No.15759382

>>15758598
That's because you're retarded. Guess how many teens get severe side effects from covid if unvaxxes? A lot more than the vaccine.

>> No.15759387

>>15759307
I thought I used a safe number so that retards like you don't get confused about my argumentative aim. And -- next time I will not use "20 billion" as well, since that makes such a post too hyperbolical sounding.

I know you are too low IQ to actually understand this post right now, so I am mostly using this for the benefit of others.

>> No.15759397

>>15759382
Please quantify your claims.

>> No.15759427
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>>15757672
This is what happens when you shoehorn women into science and leadership positions.

>> No.15759445

>>15759427
Friendly reminder that you can easily find a man with his hand up the arsehole of any puppet femoid that makes largescale decisions. Easily hateable means excellent cannon fodder

>> No.15759491

>>15759445
I wonder if you could develop some kind of femoid cannon fodder index as an indicator for corruption/fuckery

>> No.15760163

>>15759427
are those supposed to be portals?
If so I'm going tentatively with B

>> No.15760963 [DELETED] 

>>15759397
I can't because I'm lying

>> No.15761663 [DELETED] 

>>15758688
Do you have a Twitter GOLD account? If you don't then you can't see all the content on the site

>> No.15761742

>>15758688
You can check the data in the CDC presentation yourself.

>> No.15761751

>>15759387
Link a single Snopes article that debunks an argument that way.

>> No.15761775

>>15760163
Yes but I think you're supposed to draw the water level.

>> No.15761954

>>15758091
you really think the media would be covering up bleach deaths or whatever? in order to defend the republican chuds theyve been shitting on for the past ten fucking years? are you actually retarded

>> No.15761968 [DELETED] 

>>15757672
this was done purely out of LOVE
https://rumble.com/v2cqctq-the-dummy-show-ep.-2.html

>> No.15763110 [DELETED] 

>>15761751
>oy vey!!
>shut up goy!!!
>snopes is good!!!
>i fucking love snopes!!!
cringe

>> No.15763404

2 more weeks and all the vaxxies will die for real this time!!!

>> No.15763425

>>15761751
>>15763110
Here's my favorite snopes 'debunking'
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/blm-terrorist-rosenberg/
>Susan Rosenberg is a convicted terrorist who has sat on the board of directors of Thousand Currents, an organization which handles fundraising for the Black Lives Matter Global Network.

>What's True
>Susan Rosenberg has served as vice chair of the board of directors for Thousand Currents, an organization that provides fundraising and fiscal sponsorship for the Black Lives Matter Global Movement.
>She was an active member of revolutionary left-wing movements whose illegal activities included bombing U.S. government buildings and committing armed robberies.

>What's undetermined
>In the absence of a single, universally-agreed definition of "terrorism," it is a matter of subjective determination as to whether the actions for which Rosenberg was convicted and imprisoned — possession of weapons and hundreds of pounds of explosives — should be described as acts of "domestic terrorism."

>> No.15763429

>>15763425
what does this have to do with sci? You seem lost polturd

>> No.15763430

>>15763429
>what does snopes have to do with the tangent about snopes
Frustrated, snopesie?

>> No.15763431

>>15763110
who are you quoting?

>> No.15763617

>>15763429
>>15763431
you you tranny loser
You'll never be a woman
You're biologically incapable to function as a woman. You will never have the functionality of a woman nor have a woman's nature.
Snopes is garbage and you lose jew.

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>>15758688
Why are you lying rabbi? https://twitter.com/LeadingReport/status/1702460865742602412?s=19

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>>15758017
>Trump is racist for wanting to stop flights from China, go kiss your local Chinese immigrant and gargle their cum #stophate!
>Trump is racist for calling the virus from China "the China virus", think of the Asian hate this will cause!
>Trump is a moron for suggesting wearing useless cloth masks for a virus that won't effect us
>Trump should've suggested wearing cloth masks the moment news of the virus came out
>Trump is a schizo grifter for suggesting using the only known proven treatment for SARS viruses
>Trump isn't fucking doing enough to stop this virus, this is a civilization ending event, we should be shooting the ill!
>Trump should have put us in lockdowns before the first US case and had a vaccine out already #twoweekstoflattenlecurve
>Trump is an idiot for thinking I'll take his rushed vaccine
>Trump is an anti-vaxxer/masker extremists, this is a threat to our democracy, we need herd immunity, and you are killing Granny!
Can you please SHUT THE FUCK UP. I can't take your fucking never ending whining and blame shifting. Just fucking accept you got scammed and that the Dems and Republicans are in big pharmas pocket ffs.

>> No.15764493

>>15764413
they'll never stop. they need to be put in prison anon

dont forget that they basically reversed EVERY single opinion they had overnight

>you're racist if you think corona is dangerous
>you're racist if you think corona isn't dangerous
>masks dontwork
>masks work
>trump stole the election
>stealing the election is impossible
>the stock market rally is fake
>greatest stock market of all time

democrats belong in prison, and republicans need to stop being such moralistic pussies.

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>>15764493
Too late for that. They need to become carbon neutral. They love that so is only fair to give them what they want.

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15764506

>>15759307
Keep getting those boosters, they work!

>> No.15764557

>>15757672
>-1 covid deaths
>-100000 severe side effects
mathematicians will tell you that these negative physical quantities make sense

>> No.15764574

>>15758213
>Ah yes, Trump, definitely not the big-pharma bought FDA.
What proof do we have that "Big Pharma" exists? What proof is there that they paid the FDA? Please show us a receipt of how much they paid and when. On the other hand, we do have evidence of Trump fast-tracking the vaccines with policies. Which explanation do you think is more reasonable, one we have proof for or one that requires assuming stuff? Use your brain.

>> No.15766079 [DELETED] 

>>15757672
How many of those severe side effects lead to death?

>> No.15766382

>>15764574
So you're saying that the huge pharmaceutical conglomerates that have over the decades literally lobbied away legislation making them accountable for vaccines, suppressed reports about the harm their drugs do, lobbied to market drugs directly to the public and literally changed the very definition of a pandemic have no power over politics?

>> No.15766384

>>15764574
taking the trump vaccine to own the chuds

>> No.15766452

>>15761742
Can you present the data? The tweet doesn’t provide any leads. CDC has a lot of data.

>> No.15766492

>>15764557
>>15757672
How can this be said one way or the other without a proper longitudinal study?

>> No.15766499

>>15757672
>Bad science?
It was successful political strategy.
It was successful business strategy.

>> No.15766502

>>15757992
Lol at the serious replies to this post.

>> No.15766563

>>15757672
Bad implementation of tyranny

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>>15764574
>

>> No.15768918

>>15758091
why are you spreading misinformation. show me a single video of where trump said to drink bleach. i can help you save time. it does not exist. another hoax. and fyi, your body produces bleach when its inflamed.

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>>15766384

>> No.15770911 [DELETED] 

>>15768918
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOFUIi008CA

>> No.15771639

>>15757672
science reuires sacrifice and extreme experiments

>> No.15771943

>>15771639
no it doesn't, we have chimpanzees to experiment on

>> No.15771976

>>15764301
Oh shit.
Pull that trigger senpai

>> No.15772058

>>15769655
is he the new face of the movement pedebros?

>> No.15772950

>>15757672
>mass slaughtering NPCs and their children
thank you Trump for this epic prank

>> No.15773673 [DELETED] 

>>15772950
This

The world is going to be a far better place after all the vaxxies are dead

>> No.15774783 [DELETED] 

>>15773673
I'm still waiting for globohomo to "invent" an antidote for the vax so they can make even more money off the vaxxie chumps

>> No.15775480 [DELETED] 

>>15774783
Vaxxies would be dumb enough to fall for
>We gave you a deadly vaccine by accident, but trust us, this antidote works exactly as intended

>> No.15775556

>>15757672
mandatory vaccinations now

>> No.15775560

>>15775556
in your dreams, vaxtard

>> No.15775600

>>15757672
We need to make sure it only cripples white people desu

>> No.15775768

>>15759427
B only possible if the portal applies a force to the object, and then only if it applies the force in full once the object is completely on the other side of the portal. If the object was accelerated as it passed through the portal (would have to be sufficiently resistant to deformation to keep its shape) you would expect the leading edge to start falling due to gravity while the trailing edge was accelerated from 0 as it passed through the portal. Therefore, there would be a clockwise moment applied to the box as it left the blue portal, while the one in the image appears to be spinning counterclockwise.
So either way this is wrong, because even in image A, once the CoG of the object was sufficiently through the portal in option A, it would start tilting right as the trailing edge was yet to be forced through.

>> No.15776479

>>15757672
society in most countries would cripple literally every child to save one boomer life

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>>15773673

>> No.15777236

>>15757672
Antivax drivel.
Where the hell are you getting a 10-20% severe side effect rate? Severe cases are present in more like one in a million cases. You're also cherry picking the teen group, which is low risk for COVID complications anyway, but discounting the fact that if unvaccinated they will carry the illness to more at-risk people. Your math is just bad here, I'm sorry.

>> No.15777238

>>15773673
the majority of vaccinated people are whites.
we're fucked.
>t. brown

>> No.15777259

>>15777236
dont bother discussing vaccines here lmao all you'll get is nonsense gibberish from all the antivax retards here

>inb4 a antivax rant reply to this message

>> No.15777379

>>15759427
The answer is B and the water line will stay parallel to the bottom of the container

What do I win?

>> No.15778147

>>15757992

I appreciate the work you put in to repair the world through tikkun olam

>> No.15778436

>>15764574
80% of fda funding comes from pharma companies. No conflict of interest here I assure you.

>> No.15778592

>>15777236
the vaccine doesnt do anything against transmission. and i say this as a vaccinated person. at some point we have to admit we got fed a sweet sounding lie

>> No.15778605

>>15757992
snopes will say this unironically

>> No.15779002

>>15773673
this. Say it with me my kekkistani brothers: TWO

>> No.15779005

>>15775480
stop replying to yourself and go back

>> No.15779321

>>15768918
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoHUMgZ7DKc

>> No.15780559 [DELETED] 

>>15771943
We need to do more chimpanzee experimentation. PETA is an anti-human organization, every moment we spend not experimenting on chimpanzees is one that PETA is winning.

>> No.15780582

>>15758123
you read the post wrong

>> No.15781286 [DELETED] 

>>15780582
its ok, they should still follow the recommended advice in >>15758123

>> No.15781379

>>15757992
Good one, anon. And you even baited a few retards.

>> No.15781411

>>15781379
how mad are you that more people than ever are able to spot jewish lies

>> No.15781445

>>15781411
What?
He's parodying Snopes debooking.

>> No.15781577

>>15781411
>sees joke
>doesn't think about it for even a second
>immediate violent emotional reaction
>posts unoriginal rant about JEWISH LIES
where did NPCs like this come from?

>> No.15782889

>>15779321
Thats a good video

>> No.15782921

>>15764574
>What proof do we have that "Big Pharma" exists?
pfizer's track record is enough.
You belong in a mass grave you niggerfaggot kike enabler

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>>15782921

>> No.15784003

>>15758017
Based fug drumpfv.
Blue bros I'm thinking we're back! ReKEKlicans lose again!
>>15766382
Trump lost, get over it retard.

>> No.15784120

>>15757672
Whenever the government is in it, it is bad science.

>> No.15784186

>>15757672
>Cripple 200.000 kids

Fine by me, makes it easier for me to catch them ;)

>> No.15784783

>>15763429
>erm... heh, yeah chud, but I'm gonna need to see your SNOPES source on that..
>WTF.. YOU.. YOU RAGING POLCEL... WHY DID YOU SEND A SNOPES ARTICLE?!?

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>>15781577
My personal top favourites are 1) when some accused me anti-white racism for comparing consumerism to gluttony and morbid obesity, and 2) when someone accused a poster of blatant russian propaganda for referring to milankovich cycles in a climate thread

I was left utterly speechless at that last one in particular and could not even muster up the will to post a reply. I did not come back here for many days.

Extreme retards appear to come in both political flavours, and also.... we're not gonna make it are we....

>> No.15784813

>>15784802
Anon. Harden your spine, ffs. People say retarded shit on this board all the time, at least some of which is botposting or unironic propaganda. If it's leaving you in a state so befuddled that you're avoiding the place, maybe consider moving to a different board.

>> No.15784815

>>15784813
You've got tougher skin than me if you can handle this place every single day. Even if there are a few gems hidden in it all, I admit the constant onslaught of retardedness just kinda wears you down.
though probably less than elsewhere on the internet.. like youtube and facebook for example

its just best to not expose yourself to too much of it imo

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>>15784802
your entire collection of fat fetish imagery is 100% whites. you repost the same images over and over and over against but you would never in a billion years post a picture of an obese darkie even though they have far, far higher obesity rates.
why is that? its because what you're really trying to do is demonize whites rather than the obese. if obesity truly concerned you then you would be posting obese negroes, mexicans and natives.
you also post resentful pictures of people who own large trucks as if that is somehow offensive, but private jets, gigayachts and mansions and are somehow not in your collection. so you clear have antipathy for the white working class regardless how you're trying to disguise it as something else.

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>>15784820
we've been over this before
its actually really depressing to see that you're still here
still telling the same lies

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>>15784820
Here's a new one.
Just for you :)

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>>15784820
>DATS RACIS!!!!
You truly are one of the nastiest, sleaziest, lowest scumballs that ever lived.
On par with every ambulance chasing, race baiting piece of shit looking to parasite yourself a quick buck any lowly way you can

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Btw I laughed harder from that New DALL-E 3 output than I have in a long time.
I wonder if Mcdonalds is gonna sue

>> No.15784844

>>15784815
Just call them the word or do what you're doing.

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>>15784844
thx fren :)

>> No.15786192

>>15784823
>>15784827
>>15784829
triggered

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>>15784820
People naturally fear those who are larger than themselves because they all know that the bigger guy is also stronger and could easily kick their ass.
Thats where most of the hatred for fat people comes from, although nobody will ever admit that, they will always rationalize their hatred in other ways, but its telling that theres no mass hatred for thin people, or for people who consume a lot of food resources by burning off all the excess calories.
Just seeing the body language in this photo is enough to tell the tale, the big guy standing proud next to the frightened submissive little guy

>> No.15786951

>>15758015
It’s about making the world into dumb goy cattle to be just smart enough to be good little workers and not buck the system.

>> No.15786954

>>15786951
>>>/x/

>> No.15788246 [DELETED] 

>>15786943
they don't want to admit it, but thats whats really going on
fear begets loathing

>> No.15788686

>>15757672
>tweet deleted
>no link to the data
Go back to pol you useless fucks.

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>>15788686
>Go back to pol you useless fucks.

>> No.15788869

>>15766452
>>15788686
You people are so fucking stupid. It baffles me your lot found 4chan and /sci/ of all the boards.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-2023-09-12/11-covid-wallace-508.pdf

>> No.15788895

>>15757672
>severe side effects
Which are? The deaths prevented are DEAD. Side effects seem like a much less price to pay. You also point out only the deaths caused by the virus while pretending the virus doesn't effect children. Which is wholeheartedly false.

Once again, misinformation and lies are all you idiots have.

>> No.15788958

>>15788869
>It baffles me your lot found 4chan and /sci/ of all the boards
They use social media monitoring tools that link them to threads with specific keywords.

>> No.15790230

>>15788958
yup

>> No.15790238

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(22)00320-6/fulltext

Findings

Based on official reported COVID-19 deaths, we estimated that vaccinations prevented 14·4 million (95% credible interval [Crl] 13·7–15·9) deaths from COVID-19 in 185 countries and territories between Dec 8, 2020, and Dec 8, 2021. This estimate rose to 19·8 million (95% Crl 19·1–20·4) deaths from COVID-19 averted when we used excess deaths as an estimate of the true extent of the pandemic, representing a global reduction of 63% in total deaths (19·8 million of 31·4 million) during the first year of COVID-19 vaccination. In COVAX Advance Market Commitment countries, we estimated that 41% of excess mortality (7·4 million [95% Crl 6·8–7·7] of 17·9 million deaths) was averted. In low-income countries, we estimated that an additional 45% (95% CrI 42–49) of deaths could have been averted had the 20% vaccination coverage target set by COVAX been met by each country, and that an additional 111% (105–118) of deaths could have been averted had the 40% target set by WHO been met by each country by the end of 2021.

Interpretation
COVID-19 vaccination has substantially altered the course of the pandemic, saving tens of millions of lives globally. However, inadequate access to vaccines in low-income countries has limited the impact in these settings, reinforcing the need for global vaccine equity and coverage.

>> No.15790411

>>15788895
>You also point out only the deaths caused by the virus while pretending the virus doesn't effect children. Which is wholeheartedly false.
In my country, only 7 children/teenagers had events of myocarditis over 14 months of the course of the pandemic (and mind you, this was while the Wuhan-1 and Alpha strain were in circulation, which were far more pathogenic than any others that followed). Following vaccination and in less than 6 months, an additional 15 events of myocarditis were reported from vaccination.

So tell me NPC, was the virus more dangerous to children than the vaccines? No child/teenager without any serious health problem ever recorded a fatality due to COVID-19 (and even that is somewhat arguable to a certain degree since a death certificate for COVID-19 is/was issued if a positive test was present).

>> No.15790415

>>15790238
>https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(22)00320-6/fulltext
Shame such positive results weren't followed up from 2022 up to current date, I'm fairly certain the interpretation of that study would have widely changed if they were seriously investigating all the excess mortality data from all around the world. Really begs the question if vaccination from +60 upwards made any difference or rather created a problem "science" has had an excruciating difficulty explaining.

>> No.15790480

>>15790415
*+60 downwards

>> No.15790484

>>15790415
the good thing about not being vaxxed is you dont have to care either way

>> No.15790915

>>15790238
Neil Ferguson estimate