/sci/ - Science & Math

Average temperatures at the Great Lakes states peaked in 1921 and are about the same now as they were at the end of the 19th century.

The frequency of hot days in the region has plummeted over the past century to record lows.

There has been no trend in Great Lakes water levels over the past century.

Last January, the “Great Lakes News Collaborative” predicted record low Great Lakes ice cover.

https://www.greatlakesnow.org/2022/01/low-ice-coverage/

>“The Great Lakes News Collaborative includes Bridge Michigan; Circle of Blue; Great Lakes Now at Detroit Public Television; and Michigan Radio, Michigan’s NPR News Leader; who work together to bring audiences news and information about the impact of climate change

>Lake Michigan and Lake Huron are both likely to see less ice than ever at peak freeze in 2022. “Michigan and Huron were both projected to be lower than they’ve been as far as the maximum ice cover for the year, about 10 and 12%, respectively, where the lowest on record was about 13 and 23%, respectively.”

A few weeks later ice cover was right at the 1980-2010 median.

It is amusing to read to some of those old doom & gloom climate predictions. My favorite is the 2004 report commissioned by the Pentagon, and how global warming will effect global security; apparently by 2020 melting ice in the Artic was supposed to shut down the jet stream, giving the UK siberian winters, among other claims.

>>15745620
I remember that one, that was the "top secret document" that was "accidentally leaked" from the pentagon. The CIA uses that method to plant false stories in the media all the time. When real information is leaked someone ends up going to prison for life, such as in the case of Bradley Manning, when fake information is """"leaked""""" there is never a culprit.

>>15745540
Watch NASA make the big 1930s heatwave disappear

>Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.

The CCP says climate change is real. That's good enough for me.

>>15745620

>>15746952
>stop posting that!!
>I deleted it!! you can't post it anymore!!

>>15745536
>The conference ended with a commitment by top U.S. and Canadian climate officials to recommend a pilot project to study climate warming in the Great Lakes region.
Great to see that they listened to the experts to understand the potential:
>>15745538
>>15745540
>>15745542
>>15745543
I bet this pilot study helped save billions in infrastructure when they found out that the Great Lakes region isn't that strongly affected by global warming. The money is better invested in regions such as Florida or New Orleans.

>>15745536
>>15745538
>>15745540
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>>15745543
ExxonMobil thanks you for your service.

>>15746952
Are you the ESL faggot who thinks this tweet claims that humanity would end in the year 2023?

>>15747312
>t.

>>15745536
>In 1988, experts predicted the Great Lakes states would warm 4-9 degrees and the lakes would lose 2-9 feet of water by the year 2030.
so presumably their number was 6.5ºF +/- one standard deviation (or maybe 3, nobody ever uses 2) and 1 SD = 2.5ºF
so their estimate was off by 1.6 SD
their estimate on the water level was better, because it had a larger error range, they were wrong by less than 1 SD and can still claim that they were correct.

>>15745543
>Last January, the “Great Lakes News Collaborative” predicted record low Great Lakes ice cover.
>A few weeks later ice cover was right at the 1980-2010 median.
they do the same shit every year, issue doomsday prediction then act like it never happened when the prediction fails to come true
this has been going on since forever
such as in >>15747312

>>15747309
Are you a time traveler from 1970? XOM is one of the biggest investors in climate doom. If anything, they thank you for your service lol.

>>15747312
I bet some idiots are(from both sides). The issue is that “In the 5 years” doesn’t mean anything anyway.
Like what? You think climate changed would have been REVERSED if we stopped in 2020?
Furthermore, the Tweet itself was sensationalist, putting a set time for change (5 years) or “we all gonna die”

>>15749692
>gritpost
>300 likes and retweets
Dude . it's an autistic kid who was traumatized by Euro-Russian oil propaganda and abused by her own parents. Let her rest in pace

>>15749699

>>15749692

>>15748983
>their estimate on the water level was better, because it had a larger error range

>>15745536
>experts predicted
No. Scientists said that a journalist's predictions of future headlines aren't farfetched... according to said journalist.

>>15752699
muh soietists dindu nuffin!!!

>>15752699
Hiding behind the Snopes style fact check of "technically the scientists didn't say we're gonna die" is not a valid excuse.
Climate crisis promoters routinely make statements like >>15752003 and >>15746952, with the intent to cause alarm, knowning that the layman's eyes will by drawn to "experts" "warning" "death" "soon", and make the mental connection of disobeying the experts and by proxy governments' demands to appease climate change, with dire consequences.

Whether legal interpretation is the same as the public's interpretation is deliberately ensured not to be. That way they can have kapos like yourself fact check everyone.

Reminder that climate change is a non-issue that will be nullified by free market capitalism, if allowed to be.

In 1988 Jim Hansen predicted that the West Side Highway in Manhattan would be underwater by now.
It isn't. Nothing else he predicted came true either

>>15754442
>salon
lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTRlSGKddJE

>>15754537
sea level isn't rising, sorry if that triggers you

>>15747309
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Strong

>>15752003
There's the faggot who doesn't understand English. We were waiting for you

>>15745536
>experts predicted
if "experts predicted" how come you posted a snippet of a newspaper?

>>15757051
That's what happens if you move the rock lmao

>>15757091
what, you think the news is all fake and the journalists are lying about everything? what are you, some of insane paranoid schizo?

>>15757092
Like when Gilligan moved the lobster traps, making it clear the island was sinking.

>>15757179
You think that experts communicate exclusively via newspapers?
>Ah, Professor Farnsworth, I have read your latest paragraph in the New York Post. I am working on my rebuttal, keep your eyes open for what's going to be published in next week's Los Angeles Times.

everyone brushes off any prediction that doesn't come true because that's beside the point
the point of climate alarmism from the side of le elites is to keep you in perpetual fear
and from the side of plebian climate activists it is to suffer and be punished
its just a cult that we will laugh about in 20 years (40 years [60 years {80 years}])

>>15757539

>>15758763
andy singer really changed his tune over the past few years. its kinda funny seeing a former leftist learn to think for himself and realize whats really going on around him, most leftists are far too dumb to ever notice

>>15745620
No different to today. I just saw what was an obvious kid in youtube comments talking about the climate doomsday and how scary it is the world is all falling apart and that they'll be the last generation. Like unironically believing the apocalypse is arriving. Who told this kid that? Well in truth I was told the same thing, in slightly different terms and the fear and rhetoric was seeded, but the push was much weaker, perhaps a lull from the initial hype.

>>15745620

>>15745536
>greenhouse effect swamps US coastlines
hasn't happened, will never happen.
NASA would've moved their launch site inland if they genuinely thought it would happen.

>>15761756
>hasn't happened, will never happen.
unfortunately
maybe we'll get lucky with a tsunami

>>15754095
I have seen so many of those 'predictions' about ice free Arctic in two weeks, at least a dozen of them.
Also polar bears but they don't talk about them anymore for some reason, lmao.

>>15745620
its affect

>>15754537
https://youtu.be/WTRlSGKddJE?t=72 1:12 that is a paranoid conspiracy theory and potholer should take his meds NOW

>>15764563
Kek, future generations will see this shit and laugh the same way we laugh at christians screaming end is nigh every single year.

>>15747309
They moved into renewables, that is where all cool scammers are right now.

>>15745620
>>15745664
My favorite is the exxon 1972 report where they said global warming would happen, which lead them to fund propaganda so no one would regulate them

>>15765197
https://www.unep.org/unep-50-leaders-through-years/maurice-strong

>Maurice Strong played a unique and critical role in globalizing the environmental movement. He led the historic United Nations Conference on the Human Environment
>it resulted in the founding of the UN Environment Programme (UNEP)
>Six months later, he was elected by the UN General Assembly to become UNEP’s first Executive Director
>In June 1992, he led another landmark meeting: the UN Conference on Environment and Development
>The conference addressed climate change and underscored the right to sustainable development

>Mr. Strong’s other notable appointments included:
>Under-Secretary-General and Special Advisor to the UN Secretary-General,
>Senior Advisor to the President of the World Bank
>Foundation Board member of the World Economic Forum
>He also had an expansive career in the private sector, where he led some of Canada’s most prestigious energy companies.

According to the UN green shill department, your ideology was established and globralized by a literal oil executive/bankster/WEF founder. What gives?

>>15765199
>your ideology
imagine identifying with ideologies
miss me with that brainlet shit

>>15765207
>he doesn't identify with greentard dogma
Ok, you sound like a reasonable person. So what do you make of the facts presented?

>>15753828
>Hiding behind the Snopes style fact check of "technically the scientists didn't say we're gonna die" is not a valid excuse.
It would help if you cited actual studies and not just snippets from newspaper articles.
https://www.climatefiles.com/exxonmobil/1982-memo-to-exxon-management-about-co2-greenhouse-effect/

>>15765197

>>15765208
UNEP spelled backwards is PENU

>>15766715
They always accuse their ideological enemies of what they are doing themselves.

>>15745540
>The frequency of hot days in the region has plummeted over the past century to record lows.
How come theres fewer hot days if the planet is supposedly warming?

>>15769668
>Percent Of Days Above 90.OF (32.2C) Vs. Year 1895-2022 At AII MN WI IL IN OH PA NY MI USHCN Stations
Totally organic observable that doesn't look cherry picked at all. When I think "is global warming real", I ask myself "what percentage of days were warmer than 32.2°C at the USHCN stations in the states of Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana, Ohayou, Pennsylvania, New York and Michigan. Again, not cherrypicked whatsoever.

>>15745536
>detroit free press
>'scientists'
kekked but you still have to go back

>>15769677
But, you don't have doubts about CO2 measurements taken from the summit of one active volcano. Of all the places in the world to put the one official CO2 measurement facility, why pick the smoking cone of an active volcano? The locations picked for
the data >>15745540 were selected because other areas don't have accurate data that goes back to before 1900

>>15770766
Nonsense

When are the global warming shills going to make their first correct prediction?
They've been at it since the 1980s predicting doomsday and they still haven't gotten a single prediction right

>>15771423
>When are the global warming shills going to make their first correct prediction?
Never, global warming is a false narrative so the doomsday predictions will always be wrong

>>15771423
Ah yes, the famous climate scientists working for the pentagon.

>>15771940
If something "leaks" from the government and the leak justifies the government's motives and nobody is arrested for the leak then that wasn't a "leak" is was the CIA planting a story in the media.
If something leaks from the government and the leak embarrasses the government and someone ends up being hounded to death for the rest of their life or just outright murdered, such as in the Assange/Seth Rich/pizzagate/ incident, then that was a genuine leak.

>>15771949
>is was the CIA planting a story in the media.
Right, the Climate Investigation Agency.

>>15772027
>duuuuuuurrrrrrr huuuurrrrrrr I don't know what propaganda is or who is in charge of producing and distributing it
are you playing dumb or are you legitimately low iq?

>>15745543
>Last January, the “Great Lakes News Collaborative” predicted record low Great Lakes ice cover.
>A few weeks later ice cover was right at the 1980-2010 median.
lololololol
why are global warming scientists so consistently bad at predictions?

Are there any examples at all of a historical global warming prediction that turned out to be correct?

>>15774832
no, not a single one.

>>15775522
So why do people still trust the scientists on global warming? Why do people still think global warming is real?

>>15776646
Same reason people think the holocaust is real - a constant, never ending, daily barrage of propaganda.

>>15777300
>politicians must be important and powerful, they're on the news every day

>>15777300
Nobody believes global warming is real. Paid "activists" spam sites like 4chan in order to give the false impression that its a commonly held belief when it isn't.
Pretty much everyone knows global warming is fake af

>>15779263
Heres global stats on who believes and doesn't believe in global warming.
If anyone wants to compare this map to a global map of IQ scores by nation you might notice the extremely strong inverse correlation between low IQ and belief in global warming.

>>15779554
>who believes and doesn't believe in global warming
>Percentage of People Saying They Trust Climate Scientists
These are different things, but nice try faggot

>>15779581
>t. low iq

>>15779554
That high percentage in China has to do with social credit scores. If the CCP decide to change their mind on global warming then China would resemble based Japan on this issue overnight.

>>15779554
Why is based Japan so much smarter than every western nation?

>>15779554
Groups that stand to benefit from the west falling on the sword of climate change tend to like it. Big surprise.

>>15779554
>countries that get global warming bucks say global warming is real

>>15779554
>>15782742
> extremely strong inverse correlation between low IQ and belief in global warming.
throw china out of the equation and the correlation is undeniable
china is explained by >>15781373

picrel lines up opposite >>15779263 too
uncanny. low iq = belief in global warming

>>15783033
How come California is one of the lowest IQ states if Silicon Valley is there?

>>15784153

>>15784467
imagine how rapidly california's iq must be shrinking now that so many of the corporations there are fleeing the state and taking all the best paying jobs with them.

>>15745542
>There has been no trend in Great Lakes water levels over the past century.
seems to be slightly up

>>15784932
That plus the massive immigration rate. If the data in >>15783033 is more than a year old then its probably overestimating the IQ of the average Californian by a few points, its almost certain that
California is currently the lowest IQ state

>>15784932
All of the fleeing high IQ Californians are being replaced with 3rd world shitskin immigrants

The images in
>>15783033
>>15779263
and in
>>15779554
>>15782742
all strongly suggest that there is a connection between low IQ and belief in global warming

>>15779263
>Nobody believes global warming is real.
That explains why nobody is doing anything about it, not even so called woke governments (Biden's clean energy bullshit revolves around growth and like all growth will only increase fossil fuel usage).

So since nobody believes in global warming, and nobody has any intention of doing anything about it even if it were real.. why is it such a hot topic online right now?

>>15789055
>why is it such a hot topic online right now?
its an offshoot of "covid"
debunking (((science))) is a very hot topic currently

>>15790024
Not in the little university enclaves, the children there still hero worship their academic masters like gods. Expressing doubt about science on campus will get you ostracized and canceled

>>15789050

>>15789050
thats not surprising. the globohomos don't want to trick everyone, just as many people as possible.
since midwits make up the majority of the population, that is who is targeted. people who are too low iq to be able to think critically but are high iq enough to comprehend media. people who can be easily taken in by "only dumb people don't believe this" flattery, etc. imagine the amount of effort that would be needed to fool the vanishingly small community of high iq people, it wouldn't be worth the effort

>>15792707
That explains the midwit mountain effect

>>15745536
Antifa can go out and start forest fire then claim that they're caused by global warming, but lets see them make this prediction come true

>>15794115

>>15777300
repetition is the most powerful brainwashing technique

>>15745536
>"as early as 2030"
>"by the year 2030"
Are you retarded? You literal conflated the minimum year to the maximum year.

>>15796110
>Are you retarded? You literal conflated the minimum year to the maximum year.

>>15752003
i can't believe this fake enviroshit """"crisis""""" has been going on since the 1980s, they're never going to drop this bullshit
>we have always been at war with carbon dioxide

>>15754442
in 1987 unknown to him, Construction began in early 1996 on the West Side Highway project. The first of the project's seven segments—between Clarkson and Horatio streets in the Greenwich Village neighborhood—was completed in 1998.

you don't know and can't prove that it wouldn't be underwater, it is a different infrastructure than when your source knew it.

>>15798585
salon wasn't around in 1988 either, work on your reading comprehension.

>>15792707
>imagine the amount of effort that would be needed to fool the vanishingly small community of high iq people, it wouldn't be worth the effort
It wouldn't be worth the effort especially because the midwits always write off the high IQs' opinions with "thats just a conspiracy theory" any time it contradicts their own poorly thought out ideas

>>15771423
>Britain will be Siberian in less than 20 years
>t. Feb 21, 2004
time is running out fast

>>15802040
Charlie extended that deadline to July 21, 2029

>>15803243
I'll mark my calendar. That just about 2000 years to the day after Jesus was crucified

>>15803243
>>15771423
>>15754442
>>15746952
how many of these fake deadlines are they going to make up?

Scientifically speaking, why did the AGW shills disappear all of a sudden?

>>15804960
They're being paid to shill Israel/Palestine now. The CIA only have so many people.

>>15805006
CIA, IPCC, shareblue, JIDF and dozens of other organizations. Whenever CIA has an office doing something the DoD always has a parallel office doing the same thing because the two organizations are in competition with each other. JIDF also outsources to India for a lot of their shilling needs these days. More info on IPCC's operation can be found in >>15766715

>>15804792
>make up a theory
>make 9001 predictions based on that theory
>all of the predictions turn out to be wrong
>continue to believe the theory is true
is that how science is supposed to work?

The Great Lakes states are going to become rather balmy, with mild winters and humid, hot summers.

>>15796110
Perhaps you don't realize, but the general public don't ingest the information contained in headlines to the letter.

When a headlines says:
"Climatic change could eventually cause the death of all life on earth and average temperatures to reach 1C above prior century's average by 2050, expert agrees."

The general public pay most attention to:
"Climate change to cause the death of all life on earth by 2050, expert agrees"
Despite legally speaking the headline not saying that.

The people who make these articles know this, and continue to make headlines like this because it suits their narrative.

Sure, there might not be any papers claiming the death of life on earth will happen in 30 years time, but there's a lot of people who think there are.

>>15792707
this.

>>15792707
>midwits make up the majority of the population
Midwits are 105-120 IQ. That's not the majority.
>Nuh-uh.
The guy who coined the term midwit set the range at 105-120 but even before he put numbers on it, the concept was always those of above enough average intelligence to think about higher ideas but not smart enough to fully reason through them.
Pic related is from the man who coined the term, posted three days ago.

>>15806068
the term was coined well before 3 days ago

>>15805813
thats how it works for general relativity to
soon we'll be seeing "dark degrees" added to recorded temperatures so they can claim it was really 100º when it was only 75º according to the thermometer

>>15745536
>may
>could
>recommend their governments a global pilot project to study climate warming in the Great Lakes region.
So, they listened to the scientists, studied the warming and found out that the worst case isn't the case. What's the problem? Rational politicians listening to rational recommendations by rational scientists?

>>15745620
>My favorite is the 2004 report commissioned by the Pentagon
What authority does the pentagon have in climate science?

>>15807643
when they want to circulate lies they just make stuff up, whatever stories suit their agenda. then they call it a leak and people think it must be true because its in what was supposed to have been a top secret eyes only document.
if a leak happens and nobody ends up being thrown in jail for the rest of their lives over the leak, then its a fake leak being used to shill propaganda
if a leak happens and the leaker is assassinated such as in the Seth Rich/ Pizzagate leak, thats a real leak

>>15807593
They already do that. Australia replaced all their old mercury thermometers with digital devices that are programmed to read 0.7ºC over the true measured temperature

>>15809631
I'm surprised anyone can believe in the climate scam after learning this.

>>15809745
thats why you shouldn't be surprised even slightly that sjw political jannie deleted it

>>15811031
Truly amazing. Will the jannies hate if I post the real data?
https://jennifermarohasy.com/2023/04/australia-wide-assessment-climate-change-or-instrument-change/

>>15811110
>Average 90th percentile annual frequency and C maximum before and after AWS
Holy mother of data massaging.
>Average annual number and temperature of days within 90th percentile of RAW maxima 20 years before and after AWS at 69 ACORN stations
Cherry picking doesn't even begin to describe what they are doing here. It's ridiculous.

>>15811122
If you want to complain that the data is being massaged, complain to the government that uses these metrics to scare people. It's not her fault that they're dishonest liars.

>>15811126
>the government that uses these metrics to scare people
Show that the government uses only 69 out of the >100 stations. Show that the government uses the average 90th percentile annual frequency. I'm almost certain that they don't.

>>15811208
>Show that the government uses only 69 out of the >100 stations.
These are the stations where parallel records are kept showing historically comparable mercury temperatures and fraudulent digital temperatures. Other stations don't keep parallel records so the fraudulent rapid temperature rise is the only record available.

Please try to keep up.

>>15807593
they already do that, the government weather reports exaggerate the temperate at increasing levels the warmer it is.

>>15811845
Proof?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgxSOLOPGfk

>>15745536
the water level in the great lakes is determined by a joint US-Canada committee, they decide how much water to let it from adjoining rivers
more water let in leads to more hydroelectric production but also leads to more erosion

>>15812925
how much warmer are the Great Lakes states?

>>15813928
Than what?

>>15814008
than they were when the prediction in OP was made

>>15811849

>>15814788
What prediction was made?
OP's screenshot is about a possibility, not a prediction. If your mom calls you and says "hey anon, I might arrive late today, you can order pizza in case I can't make you chicken tendies" and then she comes home at the usual time, do you freak out?

>>15815585
It would've been easier to type "I don't have any" instead of searching for that wojak.

Source: Detroit Free Press
lol

>>15814788
0 degrees.

>>15806648
Amazing you can have such poor reading comprehension and still operate your phone. Apple truly has dumbed down everything.

>>15815613
>It would've been easier to type "I don't have any" instead of searching for that wojak.

>>15745536
none of the predictions the global warming "experts" have ever made have come true.

>>15817198
And yet they never change their minds about how correct their ideas are. Not very scientific of them.
>propose an experiment to prove x
>the experiment fails to prove x
>ignore the results, continue insisting x is true
Is that how the scientific method is meant to work?

>>15817198
>>15817783
Objectively false.

>>15815619
It's Detroit's main newspaper. Are you simply ignorant of that fact and just saw the word 'Free' and thought it meant something like the 'Penny Saver' fliers that get thrown on your lawn?
>The Free Press has received ten Pulitzer Prizes and four Emmy Awards.

>>15815612
You're just butthurt about how transparently fake the global warming narrative that you've bought into is

>>15819305
>someone point out serious flaws with OP's post
>w-well ur butthurt! Hahahaha
Grow up.

>>15807593
>dark warming
looooool

>>15817787
Please point to the correct climate model.

>>15820097
I believe that this figure was first posted in Roy Spencer's blog. You can find multiple flaws pointed out here: https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/17655/does-this-graph-show-climate-change-predictions-dont-meet-observations

Let me guess, you will not engage with the criticism, abandon the thread and post this plot again in a few weeks. Well, at least people will find the rebuttal on warosu now.

>>15820113
Answer the question. Which climate model is correct?

>>15820116
>>15820113
Because the ultimate problem with "climate change" is that it fails the falsification test. A thousand wrong predictions, but don't worry! Next Wednesday the world will end, we just misinterpreted this one Bible passage. Nostradamus is always right!

>>15820116
https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar4/wg1/climate-models-and-their-evaluation/

>>15820124
>ipcc
The UN is a political body, not a scientific one

>>15820805
this

>>15821845
>If we don't stop climate change by 2000 island nations could be destroyed
>We didn't stop climate change by 2000.
>Island nations are being destroyed

Just as predicted.
Proof:

https://www.environews.tv/world-news/nauru-worlds-smallest-island-country-going-under-water-from-climate-10000-in-jeapordy/

>>15821864
Nauru was an island made almost entirely of phosphorus, which was stripmined to below sea level for its mineral bounty.

>>15821992
Interesting that there's no response to the truth.

>>15821864
>environews.tv
shill site for global warming hysterics, that island is just fine, its as above water as it ever was and the population continues to grow regardless the end of the world claims on environews.tv

>>15822651
So there are no nations, not even one, that has been "wiped out" as predicted by the global warming shills 40 years ago

>>15822651
The only reason they evacuated people from Nauru was to stripmine it more heavily. It's all a capitalist scam.

>>15823911
Israel?

>>15823911
That is not what the prediction was though. Are you ESL?

>>15824094
Not yet

>>15820081
>dark sea level rise
global warming has put us all 100m underwater, but it dark water so you can't see it or detect in any other way

>>15745536
>1988
those experts have all long since retired and their failed predictions didn't affect their careers or statue in any way. making predictions that won't become debunked until after their careers are over is a common trick scientists use to evade the idea of disprovability in supposedly scientific theories. edmond halley got famous on that trick, he'd have been forgotten if he was wrong, but risked no embarrassment or penalty in his lifetime

>>15804792
the world has always been coming to an end because of global warming in "two weeks"

>>15827376
has since the 1980s

>>15828819
>If we don't stop climate change by 2000 island nations could be destroyed
>We didn't stop climate change by 2000.
>Island nations are being destroyed

Just as predicted.
Proof:

https://www.environews.tv/world-news/nauru-worlds-smallest-island-country-going-under-water-from-climate-10000-in-jeapordy/

>>15828834
Nauru is only "in jeopardy" because it's made of valuable minerals and the natives decided to stripmine it down to below sea level and become millionaires.

>>15765988
it's crazy to think how accurate they were... but it also makes you think if they can predict the future so well then maybe they were right to ignore climate change

>>15828974
nogs lmao

>>15828974
>become millionaires.
Nauru had one of the lowest GDP per capita in the world. Like, rank 211/213 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)

>>15829668
I see you have no experience with tribal communities. The chief and his family get rich and everyone else gets basic subsistence, if that. You'll find the same dynamic on any indian reservation

>>15828974
Its isn't "in jeopardy" at all, the island is the same size and shape that it was in 1940s, sea level hasn't risen a centimeter

>>15831403
>sea level hasn't risen a centimeter
Wrong.

>>15829668
Their tribal chiefs built an entire luxury apartment building in the most expensive part of Honolulu in Hawaii with the profits from stripmining the island. It's called Nauru Tower.
>>15831403
Oh the island is fine geologically, but large parts of it are completely unlivable due to mining. The phosphate mines are open pit mines that destroy the fertile topsoil and leave only bare limestone outcroppings and several-meter-deep pits.

>>15831412
>Nauru Tower.
nice place, 44 stories and lowest rent in the building is $4200/mo, some of the rents are over 100k a month
>Nauru has been destroyed by global warming
their island is still there and they're rich af

>>15832699
You'll also note that it's beachfront property built only a couple feet above sea level. Odd if they were so worried about sea level rise.

>>15832723

>>15833956
Speaking of Obama and beach front property, well pic related.

>>15834857
he has another one in hawaii too

>>15804792
how many is it going to take before you decide to rent the pod and eat the bugs and own nothing?

>>15834857
Global warming caused enough of an ocean rise to drown Obama's chef, so it shouldn't be taken lightly.

>>15832723
>>15834857
>>15834883
>beachfront property
Do you guys think that a sea level rise of several meters per year is expected? It's around 4-5mm per year. If you have a meter between the absolute minimum and your beachfront property, you're safe for several lifetimes.

>>15836123
>It's around 4-5mm per year.
sea level isn't rising at all, not even a little bit, anyone who says they think it is, is clearly wrong.

>>15804792
making up fake deadlines is their entire game

>>15836870
On paper it is but it's incredibly subtle to the point its hardly noticeable. Tide levels in SF Bay have fallen in the -1.6 to +7.4 range since I was a kid in the 70s. Highest in the last two years were a couple of 7.1 king tides. If we were really getting the 3 to 5 feet this century James Hansen promised in the 1980s we'd currently be seeing the end of negative tides and king tides would be in the 8 to 9 foot range. Not storm events, just regular charted tidal activity. Alarmists have to realize lying and exaggerating is why people stop taking them seriously but they are a bit short on self reflection.

>>15834857
Pelosi bought a massive beachfront mansion in Florida

>>15838309
She's 83. I don't think she's too worried about 5mm sea level rise per year.

>>15836991
>Alarmists have to realize lying and exaggerating is why people stop taking them seriously
That's maximum projection. The ones lying are the ones who claim that "according to scientists, the statute of liberty should long be underwater"

No one predicts 8-9 feet per century. That's 3cm per year, about a factor 10 higher than what we're observing. Unless that's for a super pessimistic scenario with significant parts of the ice shields melting or something. Anything based on the current rates is in the 1-2 feet range.

>>15838350
>No one predicts 8-9 feet per century.
Gaslighting is one of the most evil forms of lying anon. You should stop doing it.

>>15838350
Holy shit your reading comprehension is bad.

>>15836991
>but they are a bit short on self reflection.
thats because they're low iq. dumb people are dumb, thats why they behave stupidly.

>>15745620
thats the one in >>15771423

>>15841473
>bumping yet another /pol/ thread with an image and no comment

>>15841473
Huh. So we're living at the coolest time in the last 10,000 years. Why are people worried about warming then?

>>15841865
they lie about concern for the environment as a means of forwarding their barely disguised political agendas

>>15841473
when is it going to spike back up to 5800 BC tier? I want more warm comfy weather

>>15843517
Aaaand there's the daily bump by you.

>>15841865
>>15842410
MFs living in 1855

>>15843534
I wish, 1855 was based. That was the year of Maxwell's big breakthrough. Nobody has done anything nearly that good this year. Plus negroes were still in slavery and women weren't whores back then too.

>>15844149
You would've been an incel nevertheless.

>>15844173
triggered

>>15845257
Thanks for the bump

>>15832699
I wish global warming would destroy me in the same way, I could use some from Hawaiian beachfront property

>>15844149

>>15845903
That actually has to do with decaying moral standards turning formerly respectable women into whore, blaming it on global warming is a lame cope

>>15820097
they're all badly wrong lol

This is another thread thats had about a third of the posts deleted, 29% in this case

>>15835899
That wasn't global warming, Obama had the chef murdered

>>15845903
1980-2000 really was peak comfy.

>>15844149
women have never not been whores

>>15849634
You've never lived in a world without jews

>>15849631
1900 was. All that skin tight clothing is uncomfortable and nasty looking. Seeing girls try to show off their ass always reminds me of picrel