/sci/ - Science & Math

hop when?

This nigga is so jobless, how do you have more tweets than the owner of the company.

>>15778610
lol I thought Musk posted a lot

>>15778610
To be fair most of bruno’s posts are interesting and personal responses
99% of Musk posts are animated or are shitty fiver-tier animations of the letter “X” on fire with le epic smoke that he outsourced from some Indian

>>15778606
Venturestar

>>15778625
Isn't that the issue? ULA CEO has enough spare time to basically run a full time twitter account and give a detailed personal reply to everyone who @s him. And he had a reddit account where here frequently commented too lol.

>>15778606
when are they gonna show us the inside of this thing?

NASA mission news coming out today ahead of the shutdown

New Horizons was saved
https://www.nasa.gov/missions/new-horizons/nasas-new-horizons-to-continue-exploring-outer-solar-system/

>>15778642
theyre just gonna turn it off again after the shutdown

SDA to test satellite laser links in degraded conditions, ESA Calls for Small Moon Mission Ideas, Article about Dream Chasers Space Shuttle inspired TPS
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https://spacenews.com/space-development-agency-funds-demonstration-of-satellite-laser-links-in-degraded-environments/
> Space Development Agency funds demonstration of satellite laser links in ‘degraded’ environments
> The agency awarded General Atomics Electromagnetic Systems a $14 million contract to produce two small satellites equipped with optical terminals
> The contract, announced Sept. 27, is for a demonstration of satellite-to-satellite laser communications under adverse conditions that can degrade the communication link.
---
https://europeanspaceflight.com/esa-calls-for-small-moon-mission-ideas/
> ESA Calls for Small Moon Mission Ideas
> A call for proposals from the European Space Agency is asking European industry to submit ideas for “small lunar missions.”
> The call was published as a component of the agency’s Terrae Novae exploration programme, which seeks to establish a sustained European presence in low Earth orbit, send the first European astronaut to the Moon by 2030, and participate in the first human mission to Mars. These small exploration missions are a new component of the Terrae Novae strategy.
> Each mission will not be able to exceed a total budget of €50 million, and development from kickoff to launch should take less than four and half years. The agency explained that it would prefer companies or consortia that bid to be able to see the proposed mission through from inception to the implementation phase.
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https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2023/09/dream-chaser-tps/
>How Sierra Space Protects America’s Next Space Plane, Dream Chaser
> Dream Chaser, the so-called “mini shuttle”, is set to bring back the capability of returning experiments and equipment from the International Space Station (ISS) through Earth’s atmosphere for an eventual runway landing.

>>15778628
Elon's lot the plot on Twitter with his conspiracy pandering. The days of engineering/aerospace community engagement are gone. He's become /pol/.

>>15778642
They still haven’t located another intercept object though? Sad. Also lol it doesn’t have enough RTG plutonium yo get it into the 2030s even if they wanted to

>>15778646

>>15778649
more high res pic in link
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/22.10.13-5245-4S-scaled.jpg

>>15778653
> Similar to the shuttle, each tile on the vehicle is a unique design. “[Each tile] differs in size, shape, thickness, and density,” Sierra Space said. However, they note some significant differences.
>Each of the tiles on Tenacity are made of a stronger material than what was used on each of NASA’s orbiters, although still silica-based.
>Most of the white material seen aboard the space shuttle is a thermal blanket rather than tiles. As newer orbiters were built, the vehicles tended to use more of the thermal blanket in a way to reduce vehicle weight.

>>15778655
> On Dream Chaser, it’s both black and white tiles. Sierra Space told NSF the main difference between the two is a special additive to the outer glass coating.
>Another significant difference is that the vehicle consists primarily of the two types of tiles, black and white. The Space Shuttle had portions of the orbiter that needed to be reinforced to handle the heat of reentry including the nose and the leading edge of the wings. In those locations, NASA used special tiles made of reinforced carbon carbon (RCC) to withstand the higher temperatures.
>In comparison, we’re told Dream Chaser has no RCC-type panels on the vehicle. “Standard tiles can withstand up to 2,600° F (1,420° C) for multiple reentry cycles, and specialized ones can go higher for single use,” the company told NSF.

>>15778655
>They're using TUFROC
Good for them

>>15778659
> Tenacity and future Dream Chaser cargo missions to the ISS will fly under the Commercial Resupply Services-2 round of NASA contracts. Sierra Space would be the third and final company to fly under this contract. Northrop Grumman’s Cygnus resupply vehicle along with SpaceX’s Cargo Dragon v2 complete the contract. Dream Chaser is expected to provide a minimum of seven uncrewed cargo missions under this contract.
> One unique design factor with this variant of Dream Chaser is the foldable wings. This not only allows for a smaller vehicle profile when docked to the ISS but allows it to fit inside any five-meter payload fairing.

>>15778655
>> Similar to the shuttle, each tile on the vehicle is a unique design. “[Each tile] differs in size, shape, thickness, and density,”
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
why the fuck? they're not getting paid by the hour for this? why do they insist on making it so fucking boutique?

>>15778663
> Dream Chaser is expected to carry up to five metric tons of pressurized cargo and a half metric ton of unpressurized cargo to the ISS. That’s in part due to the attached Shooting Star cargo module.
> This portion of the vehicle is not reused and will be disposed of prior to Dream Chaser’s reentry. Sierra Space says they are offering this as a service to help dispose of garbage or other items no longer needed in space or on Earth.
> The vehicle will be able to return 1.75 metric tons and can land on most conventional runways. It’s currently scheduled to land at the Launch and Landing Facility at NASA’s Kennedy Space Center. The company also says the largest g-force any payload would experience on reentry would be only 1.5 Gs.

>>15778666
Have you looked at any polygonal 3D object lately? Of course all the panels are different sizes, shapes and thicknesses

Starship's hexagons don't cover the whole thing either

How long will it take to crew rate Starship for direct launches? Dragon, Dream Chaser etc might have a market for quite a while to work as LEO taxis

>>15778675
you don't see spacex bragging about how every hexagon is unique. they could have given dreamchaser a more regular profile and doubled up on tiles where possible.

https://youtu.be/aWNWj6YU0B8?si=NpP3uTjHUkIv-HeH
what the fukc

>>15778676
It's a long, long way out

Their number one priority is getting HLS going because that's what they're contracted for. The cargo Starship is a pathfinder for that. Once HLS is done they can retrofit it into a cargo Starship. I don't expect that to start until at least 2026 at the absolute earliest

https://twitter.com/ArianeGroup/status/1707484066059022619

>>15778686
>You've heard of duct tape fashion... now witness kapton fashion

>>15778686

>>15778688
What the fuck is ArianeGroup doing

https://twitter.com/BeyondGravity_S/status/1707748944132939958

>>15778686
Why are Europeans so fuckin weird

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1707849566660530507

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1707853531800342805

>>15778697

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1707818774857134287

Falcon Heavy static fire tomorrow

what's he shooting at, /sfg/

>>15778708

>>15778709
doesnt look like anything to me

>>15778711

>>15778709
Ocelots and Piping Plovers

Not sure if this was mentioned yet but a government shutdown means no Starship FWS or FAA approval until theyre back in office. Basically, 2 more weeks.

>>15778715

April 2024

>>15778696
*French

>>15778717
yeah, but it could take like 6 months anyway so that is not very significant in the grand scheme of things

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1707854750849577281

>>15778731

>>15778734

>>15778731
It'll always be a mystery to me why he detoured into tunnel boring

That is, pun-included, an extremely boring engineering problem that is typically neglected in modern times to the point where they try to avoid doing it

the real moon pole

hanging out in oldspace twitter spaces fucked my brain up, hope the Psyche launch will help me recover

>>15778741
he just got very annoyed by traffic
I'm pretty sure he talked about how double decking most roads would decrease traffic in some interview very long ago (like 15 years ago or something) when someone asked what problems should they try solving
I guess boring tunnels is going to be more scalable than double decking roads and generally more general purpose
for instance cheap boring is probably one of the pre-requirements for the hyperloop becoming a thing (only one, there are others and those might be unfeasible from a cost/engineering standpoint)
but tunnel boring is going to be useful on mars too, so there are multiple reasons to go with boring instead of building roads up by double or triple or whatever deckign

>>15778750
>Rendered on Nvidia 5090

>>15778747
what did they talk about?

>>15778755
pretty clearly a composite

More NASA mission news coming out, they're clearing the decks

https://www.nasa.gov/news-release/nasa-selects-four-small-explorer-mission-concept-studies/

>>15778755
mostly about how getting SLS down to $500m per launch will be an absolute gamechanger for America

>>15778647
No kidding

>>15778762
lmao

>>15778763
Just because he gets his news from tweets doesn't make him a conspiracy nut

>WE
get our news from tweets

>>15778709
His reputation.

>>15778763https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1707864159784927270
but he is right?
anyway this is off topic

>>15778770
What on Earth are you so upset about?

https://www.nasa.gov/humans-in-space/nasa-funds-eight-studies-to-protect-astronaut-health-on-long-missions/

More NASA research picks today, one of which made me laugh since it's about preventing the next Skylab strike

>>15778774
politics and talking about inconvenient facts would be my guess

>>15778777
Skylab never striked that's a myth that won't die. in fact the crew requested to stay on orbit for longer because they were enjoying the work so much

>>15778784
A future hypothetical strike then

>>15778741
Mars habitats, all of his companies (even twitter) contribute to colonizing Mars.

>>15778741
Pissed off by LA traffic. Ironically, his Boring venture will have long term positive benefits for Moon/Mars when it becomes possible to ship parts of the machine to Moon/Mars and use additive manufacturing ISRU to build much of the hardware offworld to recompose and use as a working product to build 3.8m wide tunnels which can be sealed using a combination of regolith brick and mortar to create 3.3 meter wide functional living spaces or 10.8 feet. Which is about the width of an average room in most homes across the world for a middle income family. You can then using bulkheads spaced say every 30 feet create whole room segments all underground or build transport tunnels to fast move goods, services, and people. Lava tubes are cool and all, but getting hardware from the surface down into them safely and at scale will be a lot harder than building a borer on the Moon or Mars and digging into the surface to build the tunnels yourself.

>>15778761
9 cubesats to understand plasma around earth, solar wind probe or satellite, corona probe with UV imager and spectrograph, aurora satellite
---
> CINEMA
> The Cross-scale Investigation of Earth’s Magnetotail and Aurora (CINEMA) mission would work to understand the structure and evolution of Earth’s plasma sheet – a long sheet of denser space plasma in the magnetic fields flowing behind Earth, known as the magnetotail — using a constellation of nine CubeSats flown in sun-synchronous, low Earth orbit.
---
> CMEx
> The Chromospheric Magnetism Explorer (CMEx) mission would attempt to understand the magnetic nature of solar eruptions and identify the magnetic sources of the solar wind.
---
> EUV CME and Coronal Connectivity Observatory
> The Extreme ultraviolet Coronal Mass Ejection and Coronal Connectivity Observatory (ECCCO) consists of a single spacecraft with two instruments, a wide-field extreme ultra-violet imager and a unique imaging EUV spectrograph. ECCCO’s observations would contribute to understanding the middle corona, the dynamics of eruptive events leaving the Sun, and the conditions that produce the outward streaming solar wind.
---
> MAAX
> The primary objective of the Magnetospheric Auroral Asymmetry Explorer (MAAX) mission would be to improve our understanding of how electrodynamic coupling between Earth’s magnetosphere and ionosphere regulates auroral energy flow. The mission would use two identical spacecraft equipped with dual-wavelength ultraviolet imagers to provide global imaging of northern and southern aurora.

>>15778791
CINEMA looks like a follow-on to MMX. I wonder if they're going to use the same long-distance GPS that MMX did for formation flying.

>>15778774
Maybe I got the wrong read on him based on all his past interactions with the community, but I can't recall him being so vindictive.

>>15778794
MMS, my bad. MMX is going to be cool.

"It's an Elon World after all."

Has Bezzy done anything with his constellation yet, beyond testing?

>>15778796
what do you mean?
what you see as vindictive is just defense, he has talked about turning the other cheek but you can only do that for so long

>>15778804
I don't think they have even tested it? Aren't they just about to send the first 2 prototypes >>15777952

>>15778804
why is this even allowed?

>>15778804
btw I think starlink has 5200 satellites now or something, so that pic is quite outdated

>>15778808
That's very sad.

>>15778809
Because there's no reason why it shouldn't be allowed. SpaceX cleared all the paperwork. They have disposal plans. There is no reason to object. If you don't like it, that's a you problem.

>>15778804
The first Kuiper sats are launching on an Atlas V soon (the small lift rocket these were going to fly on all shit the bed).

>>15778809
Natural monopolies

Well, not really but GPS existing worldwide made competitors much less useful. Iridium and then later Starlink basically locked down global satellite communication with first-mover advantage. Kuiper is DoA for non-Amazon customers, although I wouldn't rule out EDS as a market-making force even if Starlink is cheaper.

>>15778610
Musk runs 5? different companies. He's busy.

nigger

>>15778686
Female model chasing after a phallic symbol

>>15777711
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8mKreIf6Fk

37min to stream start

>>15778774
Probably cause he's a lefty and mad that Musk shits on his politics

>>15778804
They're launching a test sats, just like SpaceX did with Tintin A/B back in Feb 2018 ~5 years ago.

>>15778788
yeah, just dust off some old projects

>>15778804
LMAO at the Bezos insertion. So starlink deserves another quarter of that useless chart

>>15778825
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GDS6KoQ4uk
T-60:00

>>15778825
Oh hey a daytime starlink launch. for like the first time in 4 months.

>>15778804
>>15778841
Amazon has to put up 1100 of them in total before end of 2025. If they can't get even to 10% of that, they will lose their license.

>>15778844
Wrong.

>>15778763
Isn't it the same for every zoomer or millenial? Young people in majority don't watch TV.
For me, Twitter/X is fastest way to get news.

>>15778848
X is the real time news. Reddit for ex is just CNN/CNBC/legacy media propaganda channel.

Young people get their propaganda through 2nd or third parties. Millenials get through news directly from X.

>>15778741
It's critical technology for offworld colonies, and was being neglected because it's a pain in the ass

>>15778848
I wish Twitter/X had a paid option for a total algorithm feed wipe or someshit. Following Elon for the last year or two on it, has turned my feed into a doom scroll, and all the interesting tidbits I used to get around AI, art, cooking, etc, has all been muted by all the shit his stuff follows + all the impression farming many youtubers that made some solid coin in Tesla who came over now do. Its not optimistic at all.

>>15778647
/pol/ is unironically one of the fastest ways to get an aggregated feed of generally-pertinent news, you just have to be capable of looking past the bullshit

>>15778811
A girl did the pic, and you know how they are with Math:

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/who-owns-the-most-satellites/

>>15778854
Pol is bot controlled. Its got nothing of value. No news, no value. Not even discussion as its just bot controlled.

>>15778854
I guess man. I just wanna talk about roggeds and animu.

>>15778680
Based and Mongopilled

Speaking of Starlink, a scary detailed count:

https://planet4589.org/space/con/star/stats.html

>>15778863
Thanks for this link bruh.

>>15778853
you need to curate your stream by muting and clicking "im not interested", stop followin people whose shit you don't want to read, stop engaging bullshit you don't want to see on your feed (engagement bait like soft-porn, fight videos and bait etc)

>>15778751
>he talked about how double decking most roads would decrease traffic in some interview very long ago
Someone tell him about Jevon's paradox

>>15778863
I aint clicking that shit nigga

>>15778731
Off topic kys

>>15778872
meaning I did see stuff like that for a while, but after curating my feed is pretty good now

>>15778804
lmao

>>15778873
doesn't matter, what matters is standard of living
and if people want to move around a lot, shouldn't they be allowed to do so?

>>15778763
Off topic kys
>>15778772
Off topic kys

>>15778863
Oh shit this is exactly the kind of autistic cataloging I've been looking for in regards to starlink. They launch too often for other sources to be anywhere near accurate on current numbers.

>>15778804
So when will Starlink account for 90% of all satellites? 2026?

>>15778893
depends if amazon and the kuiper launchers get their shit together
China is also launching at least one constellation of satellites, probably more than one

>>15778896
Kupier getting their shit together depends far too heavily on ULA getting their shit together.

>>15778625
Salvatore is so wholesome chungus

https://twitter.com/thunderf00t/status/1707664987248890321

>>15778886
The details are interesting. Out of almost 5200 sats, there were no "failed to orbit"?

>>15778904
What has thunderfoot achieved since 2016?

>>15778907
Well, they're all in orbit when F9 releases them. Then some may fail to raise to higher orbits.

>>15778909
Made a fuckload of money on conspiracy skeptics form youtube. He's a retard, but youtube ad revenue across his channel scope is probably 5-6 digits easy.

>>15778648
The mission extension gives them the option of another flyby if they find a target. Of course, how's the funding for the target search ?

>>15778921
>how's the funding for the target search ?
It's nonexistent. This is exactly what everyone was pissed about earlier. They're taking NH and handing it off to a completely different department. Not only is there no budget for locating any new kupier belt targets, the researchers who would be needed to actually study those objects all have to leave to find new jobs and aren't going to be available later on.

>>15778647
He is closer to the truth than any other billionaire, politician or normalnigger

https://twitter.com/SERobinsonJr/status/1707774070006108537

https://twitter.com/dfuji1/status/1654626638527868929

>>15778931
A broken retard can set the clock right two times a day.

>>15778617
he replies more than he posts. do replies count as posts?

>>15778940
I would assume so

>>15778709
providing Paul Harrell with backup

>>15778946

>>15778953
everyone knows that elon would be on the other side...

>>15778919
5 to 6 digits is not a fuckload of money

>>15778925
Maybe it'll run into Planet X

>>15778843
Whoops no there's weather and things are delayed

new T-2:40:00 and it's going to launch in the dark again

>>15778606
pppppppfffffffff

>>15778606
I'm currently doing my M.Sc. and forgot to sign in for my courses of choice this semester and one module thats mandatory has only a single class to choose with avaliable space left, It's a "relativistic quantum field theory" class... How fucked am I when I barely got throught my normal quantum mechanics class in during my B.Sc?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Rubio_(astronaut)

He holds the American record for the longest spaceflight at 370 days.

Bravo Francisco Rubio!

>>15779044
Anyone going to Mars will hit that number as well, so at least they have someone to study now

>>15779038
It's mainly an extension to regular quantum theory. You won't be getting into gauge invariance or too much hand wavy shit. You'll be fine so long as you do lots of exercises

>>15778904
Chuds malding

>>15778959
Are you kidding? $10k is huge

>>15778842
...aaand we're finally back to T-60:00

>>15779102
>$10k is huge
I suppose context matters, but generally no.

>>15779140
>10k over however long if it's your only source of income
shit
>10k for a hobby of bitching about spacex on the internet
how many of your hobbies turned 5 figures?

Clear live!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2jkUsqnAoA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2jkUsqnAoA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2jkUsqnAoA

Why has every Starlink launch been during the night lately?

>>15779166
MaxQute

>>15779148
>how many of your hobbies turned 5 figures?
Can't say what it is but it's getting close at this point

Clear got her hair up for this one..

>Clear got a new hairstyle
New fairing design

Max Qute

it's another episode of
>starlink launches are so boring /sfg/ only talks about the vtuber
in other news he can't keep getting away with it

>>15779188
Wait until they try to hit 200 launches next year. A Falcon launching every other day would be absurd.

>>15779188
I only watch for the increasingly vain hope a booster will be in fucking pieces on a drone ship

>>15779190
Just wait until spacex gets wild enough and decides a superheavy just has to launch twice in a day

falcon heavy magnum XL when

>>15779196
The first launch that's going to require it is the PPE+HALO for Gateway, and that's penciled in for November 2025.

>>15779196
F9 can probably get a wider fairing without sweating. There is so much gimballing in the booster to compensate for the extra drag.
Elon should just shelve scamship and enhance f9 instead.

>>15779207
(you)

>>15779100
>chuds
go back to leftypol

https://youtu.be/3CYhLiec7PE?si=9uLuFYR6PgquCvM2

>>15779295
Labelled Release experiment more or less proves life is active, when the perchlorate discoveries are taken into account.

>>15779325
Which is why NASA never did a follow up. If they discovered life, they knew Mars program would be defunded

>>15779325
It doesn't though. If there was life, why did second and third doses of nutrients have no effect? Crazy ol' Gil Levin never could answer that one.
It's clearly some superoxide being used up.
>but anon where is the trace oxygen in Mars' atmosphere coming from
>and the methane fluctuations in Gale Crater
I don't care. I'm not trying to solve a puzzle.

>>15779338
Based and dead marspilled

>Government shutdown
>Fish and Wildlife service employees furloughed
>Human spaceflight delayed

Devilish

>>15779368
Why not just...remove the fish and wildlife

>>15778953
>commie gun fag defending paul
Doubt

>>15778686
gay

>>15778863
>Default Times New Roman font with bright solid color backgrounds
>HTML source code does just what it needs to do, no bloat
>Web 2.0 compliant
Based

>>15778953
kek

>>15779438

>>15779438
>Based
Agreed. I hate flashy HTML bloat.

>>15778953
Yeah, this is getting saved. Do harm to furries, if applicable.

>>15778647
Here's your engineering tweet

>>15778851
/pol/ breaks the news usually. It's where Epstein's death was first reported for example

>>15778709
FAA Headquarters.

>>15778909
what about

>>15778606
why does the hls mockup have tiles?

>>15778633
there's probably nothing in it

NASA to extend New Horizons mission through late 2020s

https://spacenews.com/nasa-to-extend-new-horizons-mission-through-late-2020s/
> WASHINGTON — NASA has agreed to extend operations of its New Horizons spacecraft through late this decade to support “multidisciplinary” science that could include another Kuiper Belt object flyby.
> NASA announced Sept. 29 that it would extend New Horizons, currently approved for operations through the end of fiscal year 2024, until the spacecraft exits the Kuiper Belt, which is expected around the end of the decade. The focus of the mission, starting in fiscal year 2025, will be collecting heliophysics data as the spacecraft heads out of the solar system.
> The future of New Horizons has been in doubt after NASA elected to extend the mission, part of NASA’s planetary science division, only through 2024, proposing to then transfer it to NASA’s heliophysics division. That move was rejected by the mission’s principal investigator, Alan Stern of the Southwest Research Institute, who argued that the move would rule out any further work in planetary science by the original mission team.
> NASA said that the new extended mission will be jointly managed by NASA’s heliophysics and planetary science divisions, but “primarily” funded by planetary science.
> NASA spent $9.5 million on New Horizons in 2022 and proposed spending $9.7 million on the mission in its fiscal year 2024 budget proposal.

>>15779588
Because it's a converted Starship nose

The old mockup was just a nosecone

>>15778709
Musk in the mosque.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1708052844899963224

>>15778854
>/pol/ is unironically one of the fastest ways to get an aggregated feed
through turdie copeganda filter. Ukraine war exposed it as a full blown xigger, zigger and nigger breeding ground. First weeks of the war was nothing but a unmoderated spam about how europe is going to be burned to the ground and burgers will be nooked to dust

>>15779639
Still is, we supposedly froze to death last winter too.

>>15779338
it's not a puzzle
>where is the trace oxygen in Mars' atmosphere coming from
radiolysis and recombination reactions of water and CO2
same reason why there are trace amounts of carbon monoxide
>and the methane fluctuations in Gale Crater
abiotic methane formed by serpentinization
impact cracked the rock and therefore it can slowly escape through microscopic fissures and pores
the amount is tiny, but explains why there's more of methane that radiolysis could generate
>>15779329
NASA discovered there's no fucking life and is just muddling it for decades because they believe nobody would give them billions just to look at sterile rocks

Spaceflight implications of DALLE-3 pepes?
>>>/g/96311027

>>15778676
I don't think long at all. Once all the seething about the deluge stops and the launches stop failing (causing investigation delays) Starship will be launching back-to-back as fast as Falcon 9 is right now. You can quickly prove how safe it is. Fuel transfer will be no problem at all, they will get it on their first or second try

>>15779679

>>15779696
based
make a pic where starship roasts wildlife

>>15779699
roasted beetles, coming right up

>>15779696
>>15779732
thats really good wtf

Imagine Tory and Elon worked together: Starship Centaur

>>15779696
>>15779732
>"Generic spacecraft" is gradually morphing from space shuttle to Falcon 9/Starship
Nature is healing

>>15779756
high energy, here we go again

>>15778610
>what is a social media manager
People in this general are all a bunch of autistic children, it seems

>>15778763
If anything this really does explain a lot.

>>15779635
REMINDER

10 LAUNCHES THIS MONTH

THE MADMAN DID IT

>>15779769
Some will say its impossible for Starship to launch more than once a month because uhh

>>15778844
>Under terms of its Federal Communication Commission license, the company must deploy at least half of the constellation by July 2026, giving it less than three years to launch more than 1,800 satellites. The remaining satellites must be in orbit by July 2029
>https://spacenews.com/kuiper-launch-companies-say-they-can-meet-amazons-schedule/

>>15779167
It's just the way the orbits are lined up I guess.

>>15778844
>>15779774
Extensions will be granted, guaranteed

>>15779762
that sounds gay as fuck and pretty much like lying
they should post on the corporate account if its not actually the person posting

>>15779778
>Extensions will be granted, guaranteed
Most likely, or Bezos will sue to retain the rights to the orbits/frequencies.
That's why I hope the launch of their two prototypes goes well. If they don't have any rocket failures to put up the sats, there is less they can blame for not meeting their goal.

>>15779800
Musk conquering the FAA

>>15779778
They're going to have to be. If Amazon wanted to meet that 2026 deadline they needed to be launching one Atlas, Vulcan, or Ariane 6 per month starting this January.

>>15779800
BASED

>>15779800
moar

>use summarizer to summarize /sfg/
>feed it to dalle to create an image for the next op

>>15779800
Legitimately fine with killing worthless species that meddle in human advancement. They should've evolved better.

>>15779800
>punished elon displays his displeasure by publically applying a hidden flamethrower to an endangered beetle after the FAA (which has absorbed NASA and the FWS) bans starship launches.

>>15779800
needs to be a Boring flamethrower

>>15779821
that would be pretty cool, are there any good summarizers? ChatGPT is supposed to be able to take in pictures, so in theory it should be able to summarize but not sure if the implementation is there yet "summarize what is discussed on this webpage" or something like that

>>15779832
>godemperormusk
lel

would a suit like this work on mars?

>>15778646
adverse weather... in space?
wtf is going to interfere with a laser link? a kessler event?

>>15779834

>>15779856
the military has been talking about fighting in a degraded space environment for awhile. it means some of your shit is disabled, destroyed, or otherwise unavailable due to a conflict extending into the space domain.

>>15778691
They're french and therefore, it goes without saying, the worst kind of faggots.

>>15779860

>>15779870
wtf even small time sites get hit by enshittification

>Psyche not reaching Psyche until 2029
I sleep

>>15778741
He builds cars. Traffic is the enemy of cars. He spends a lot of time thinking about how to make cars better.

His ideal hyper loop is intended to be the next best thing after the anti-traffic missile from Dilbert that gives fellow commuters the Iraqi desert Highway of Death treatment.

>>15779870
bing just makes stuff up, absolute fucking bullshit that has nothing to do with the page
I doubt it even went there, probably just guessed based on /sci/

>>15778804
>can't even compete using imaginary satellites
peak cringe

>>15778844
Laws and regulations mean nothing if you own enough US senators

>>15778873
It's worse than that. Adding capacity on a single road can actually increase traffic on that road without any overall increase in traffic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braess%27s_paradox

>>15779575
It's tu quoque, you seething retard.

>>15779881
Regulations mean everything if you own enough US senators because then you're the one who writes the regulations to disadvantage your competitors. Everyone always talks about how "fascism is a merger of state and corporate power" but when they actually try to picture it they just get a lot of goose-stepping racism in sharp outfits. The only laws that are still on the books are the ones saying "please obey the regulations or you will be shot by the regulators."

>>15779878
>bing just makes stuff up
Based AI lmao

>>15779756
one can dream

>>15779696
HOLY SHIT A GIANT

>>15778932
>Muscowpetung Salteaux
>Musc S a e X
>launch Starlink
now they're just fucking with me

>>15779837
BIG BLACK COCK

>>15779140
>>15779102
It's a good amount for an academic to make in a month during their spare time.

That said, I hate that guy. I would take a steamy piss at his funeral.

>>15778919
Scamming double digit IQs is that easy huh

>>15779800
You redeemed this fucking thread

>>15779800
gem

>>15779635
He want's to put lasers in space doesn't he? Also reminder that space lasers are a feasible weapons system.

>>15779892
good point

>>15778741
Off-world colonies will require serious tunnelling. Boring Company proves that he's actually serious about Mars and elsewhere.

>>15779892
>MFW musk spent 44 billion on twitter when he could have just been buying US senators

>>15779927
disposable wrenches

>>15779932
this is going to be more effective ultimately

>>15779932
Buying senators would mean investing in those senator's fiefs, and that kind of thing would add a lot of inefficiencies to a system that was designed to be streamlined. Buying senators would mean turning SpaceX into a ULA-style 50-states jobs program. And that's not getting started on the senators he made enemies of by fucking over the UAW with Tesla.

>>15779932
Its better that he spent money to shape public perception and overthrow the corrupt gov.

>>15779937
/sfg/ actually believes this. How much wasted attention and money from musk has to get wasted on a shitposting site before anons here admit what a massive mistake it was.

>>15779938
So suddenly it's not as easy as just buying senators? What a surprise. Just like every /pol/ conspiracy, as soon as you start poking holes in it it starts changing so the anon who drempt it up can still feel like a special smarty snowflake.

>>15779942
Public perception for Musk has gotten astronomically worse since he botught twitter. Ideation about overthrowing the government just confirms you are a delusional online loser.

>>15779947
No you don't get it! Twitter is the only way to save western civilization, the US government, spaceflight and whatever other pet issue I have!
TWITTER = REAL LIFE (for me)
TWITTER = REAL LIFE (for me)
TWITTER = REAL LIFE (for me)

>Anons STILL defend the twitter waste after it killed youtube streams
Musk fucked up, it's not bad to admit it.

>>15779947
>Public perception for Musk has gotten astronomically worse
Only for those on the lefty spectrum. Which he was already getting flak for with calling out covid narrative, being rich, not being union, not supporting communism, calling out castration of children, etc.

So whats left is the right and the center side of the equation who wants to see the clear and real picture. The corrupt authoritarian communist in charge is heading towards impeachment for corruption. Once thats out, we're clear for clean slate.

>>15779952
> whats left is the right and the center side of the equation
The majority of the right does whatever trump says, and right now he hates musk. Musk has no allies left, which is why he's getting fucked right now. Twitter just made it worse.

>>15779951
X gets more viewers on their stream than Youtube now. More than double/triple of youtube.

The only real issue is lack of 4K, which only a fraction of the population watches today. Its not like Starlink launches are unique launches, there are 10 launches just this month alone, so its nothing special. 4K will happen and they'll do 4K when it comes.

>>15779955
>right now he hates musk
Thats your fanfiction. Musk/Trump dont have personal relations or any real animosity. There's lot of goodwill towards one another however.

Every major republican contendor sees Musk favorably. Some of the Democrats also see him favorably.

Your ideological bubble is whats preventing you from seeing reality

>>15779952
>The corrupt authoritarian communist in charge is heading towards impeachment for corruption.
Replace communist with fascist and this is a lefty posting about trump after Jan 6th lmao, horseshoe theory is real

>>15779960
>Trump fascism is some protestors carrying American flag getting tour from police
>Biden corruption is him going after his political enemies, taking bribes from China/Ukraine/Russia, using DoJ to stop the probes, using DoJ to hide evidence, etc
Same thing lmao

>>15779959
>Fanfiction
>Literally made a social media rant calling starship a "rocket to nowhere"
You are coping anon. Just because you make your musk and trump barbies kiss doesn't make them friends.

>>15779963
Thanks for proving my point

>>15779951
If I were in his position at the time, I wouldn't have bought twitter, I wouldn't have made the choices musk did with twitter.
That isn't saying much.
In retrospect, buying twitter was absolutely the right move, Biden admin doesn't like him simply because he has power outside of what they control, he needs to kick at the foundations (public support/outreach) of that for his long term plans. If he hadn't, those musk hitpieces would've had much greater impact.
Some of the stuff he's done with twitter seems just plain dumb from a business perspective, but it doesn't really matter: he controls it, and they don't.

>>15779962
And thats same as launching investigations/lawsuits/legal roadblocks after every one of Musk's companies

1 minor statement vs million corruption charges

>>15779960
This place has been infested with delusional /pol/tards for years. I didn't realize anyone with an IQ above 100 still took impeachments seriously, but here we are.

>>15779967
Wasn't Musk supposed to be a business genius and not an engineer. If he isn't a business genius, and he's not an engineer, then it must be that he's just lucky bumbling idiot.

Therefore the hate towards Musk is discrimination towards low IQ.

>>15779968
A social media post is all trump can do now, just wait till he is in office.

>>15779974
>J-just you wait, Trump will be just as bad as Biden
Maybe you have amnesia, but we already had 4 years of Trump.

>>15779967
Twitter has done nothing for musk public support/outreach. IDK where you people get this delusion. All polls show his popularity has dropped massively since twitter acquisition.

EDS retards will be proven wrong about X, yet again
they just never learn, will never admit they were wrong (first its a disaster, then in the blink of an eye it was obvious all along)
can you just shut up about X already, you keep bringing this shit up every other thread
it has been discussed to death and is off topic on top of that

>>15779977
That was before musk refused to kiss the ring. Come on anon, try to keep up.

>>15779978
>all polls
From the usual lefty propaganda channels. If you're consooming propaganda even like this, the problem isn't twitter or Musk, its you

>>15779978
lmao, any source to back that up?
don't really care so don't bother
shut up about X

>>15779978
The threat to Musk from a public that hates space colonization and/or his guts can't be overstated, without controlling at least some of social media, those gay hitpieces in the new york times or wherever would've been pushed to no end. Allowing them to publish and then artificially shove that shit in every normies face would've been worse in the long term.

>>15779984
>trusdt me, drumpf will be worse
LMAO

>>15779978
You're living in a bubble

>>15779960
They did impeach him after that though

>>15779990
So are you lmao

>>15779997
>NO U
kek

Mountains of propaganda being exposed and you still believe in (((the narrative)))

>>15780001
I kind of agree with you, but you're still extremely rarted.
also: reddit spacing.

>>15779988
>As of November 2022, 13 percent of respondents in the United States reported that they had a very favorable opinion of Twitter's new CEO Elon Musk. Overall, 23 percent of U.S. adults had a very unfavorable opinion of Musk in November 2022.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1304563/us-adults-impression-of-elon-musk/

He used to be the most popular US billionaire, now he's the least. IF people like you less then bezos, you are doing something wrong.

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1708125801177399609

>>15779166
wrong board, >>>/vt/

>>15780001
>Can't admit he's a product of propaganda as well
You exposed yourself when you said Jan6th was just a tour.

>>15780009
Can't wait to watch it in 720p like on 2010 youtube! Thanks elon! This is actually a good thing desu. btw Im trans.

>>15780012
>NO U
kek

My birthday is in 3 days.
I'll be 35

>>15780006
okay, let me ask you this:
what would you have done? Your companies keep getting investigated for nothing, constant hitpieces against you, your companies and your goals. Should he have just laid down and taken it for the forseeable future?

>>15780017
Mindbroken

>>15780006
doesn't seem too bad to me

>>15780016
you have to go back

>>15780023
Musk will be vindicated when Bidens corruption comes to light with impeachment. When he gets rolled over in the next election and replaced with someone who has more presidential integrity.

Musk's exposure of corruption is what makes him the hero of America.

>>15780019
Keep my head down, let my launch record speak for itself. Make sure public appearances are heavily monitored by a PR team. Invest money into my launch vehicles, not an extremely public shitposting site. Get into closed door meetings with senators and congress people to grease palms and make things smoother for my launch goals. Use my soft power of being the only US company capable of human spaceflight to make red-tape disappear. Pay lip service the the current admin so they give me leeway in my dealings.

>>15780028
>with someone who has more presidential integrity.
There aren't any people like that in North America anymore, whatever we get next will be more shitty.

>>15780017
brainrot

>>15780028
maybe, but whats funny is that the poll actually shows that there are more people that have a favorable opinion of musk than a non-favorable one (favorable 23+29= 42, unfavourable 18+23 = 41)

>>15780028
HOLY

>>15780029
>take the punches
Musk has never taken punches. He's always punched back. It was bound to happen sooner or later

>>15780042
And that's why the public hates him. That's my point. If he kept his mouth shut he'd still be "real life iron man" to most normies. Now he's the guys who posts "concerning!" on race bait twitter posts.

>>15780046
who gives a shit
shut the fuck up already
the public changes it mind like a weathervane and has a very short memory and in fact he is building support with the right even if the support on the left is waning

>>15780046
Iron Man fights back against evil and the corrupt. Thats exactly what Musk does. The hero always fights evil.

Castrating children isn't saving children. Gender fluid ideology isn't saving children. Hatred of normal adulthood isn't saving people. These are all evil ideology being taught in school. Anyone who is not opposed to these are fundamentally supporting evil. Anyone who supports those are evil by nature.

>>15779960
Agent Q was the greatest glowie of our time

>>15780047
Public opinion is why the saturn V doesn't exist anymore. Public opinion is why NASA's budget has been stagnant for 50 years. You are deluding yourself if you think that main figurehead of "new-space" being known for calling people pedos and race baiting on twitter doesn't matter.

>>15780009
PSYKE

>>15780046
The opinions of normies are irrelevant.

>>15780053
>calling pedophiles pedophiles is bad
>calling out racist in media is race baiting
>STOP NOTICING!!!

>>15780048
>randomly brings up trans people
Go outside, I'm begging you.

>>15780053
no it isn't lol
the public never gave a shit about space

>>15779956
>believing in magic X numbers

>>15780060
EDS

>>15780048
lol
lmao

>>15780055
>>15780059
This is the future without public opinion

>>15780029
The senators want you to put jobs in their states; they want to be able to place people in your companies to do cushy, high paying nothing jobs whenever they like; they may want you to allow unions in your workforce. Even then, they aren't necessarily going to protect you if it comes down to it. They have all the cards, and doing business with them means kowtowing to them. Maybe that's sensible compared to the alternative, but it absolutely ties your hands and stops you from doing as much/being as efficient as you'd like.

>>15780048
I think I'm done with this general. Its been shit for a while now.

>>15780063
Exactly. The real issue is that people forgot space travel and so did congress.

As long as Musk is the most talked about person on Earth, space travel will always be at the forefront. So will democracy, freedom, ingenuity, bravery, hardiness, etc.

Detractors can only field low IQ opinions that fall flat the moment light shines upon them.

>>15780066
It's just one retard

>>15780063
SpaceX is not dependant on public funding, so no it isn't
Starlink has already shown that space is useful + its a way for SpaceX to self-fund
again, the public never gave a shit about space
it never will, it might care about portions that directly affect them through jobs or whatever, but in the grand scheme of things they do not give a shit

>>15780070
Regulators can easily stall SpaceX as it is doing right now. Its stalling all of Musk's companies because of his political opinions.

Yes, we're that petty. Honest political discussions at national level leads the corrupt ideologues to attack you

>>15780069
No it's multiple. This place used to be for grounded discussion of Spaceflight, with some optimism for what SpaceX can accomplish. Now it's just delusional elon simps, and right wingers who couldn't even tell you the rocket equation.

where did this reddit spacing qtard nigger come from?

>>15780072
they might stall him, but they don't seem able to stop him even if they are trying to throw all kinds of bullshit lawsuits and whatever, propaganda through every channel and so on

>>15779760
kinda funny as the morph to starship really is a return to tradition.
All the early BFR concepts and to some extent starship/f9 get certain boomers excited because it's how they grew up seeing how rockets should work from sci-fi

>>15780073
leave then
who keeps bringing up X and Musk wasting time? is it you? please go

https://phys.org/news/2023-09-india-space-chief-unfazed-moon.html

>>15780079
>Can't admit twitter was a waste of time, effort and money
Case in point.

>>15780075
Time is money.

>stall spacex
>spacex burns cash
>fund competitors to let them catch up
>deny spacex competitive bids (national launch which funded Omega rocket/BlueOrigin for billions each and deny Starship the billion)
>deny spacex services (give viasat/etc billions, deny starlink services, cancel funding, give paltry $15 million service contract, denegrate Starlink in media)

>>15780072
>Regulators can easily stall SpaceX as it is doing right now.
These delays have been inconsequential. The truth is there are Top Men at the Pentagon leaning hard on any rat fucker trying to get in the way of this rocket's development. You don't see them, they don't get reported on, and you're not intelligent enough to intuit the real politics going on behind the curtains.

>>15780084
>SpaceX doesn't need public funding!
>REE WHY WONT THEY GIVE SPACEX PUBLIC FUNDING???????
lol
lmao

>>15780083
I can't admit it.
Getting in the good books of senators is disgusting, it would make spacex another BO or ULA. Attacking was the only alternative.

>>15780085
>muh pentagon
Pentagon leaked the Starlink negotiations to CNN for their hit piece. Pentagon spokesman shits on Starlink/SpaceX/Musk questioning allegiance.

Starlink only has $15 million service contract LMAO. Its ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Not even drop in the bucket compared to funding other Satellites, let alone contracts going out to service in Ukraine. Pentagon insiders absolutely do not have any leaning on SpaceX.

>>15780088
The winning move was not to play. Disappear from the public, let Gwen and other media darlings do the talking, and just succeed. Only come out for big wins/events. Musk loves the attention too much.

>>15780083
so it is you
you bring this off topic bullshit up every week or so, people argue its bullshit and then you start whining this general is shit
lmao

>>15780084
doesn't matter, you could say the headwinds have been even worse in the EV space and they are doing fine
SpaceX doesn't really need the government anymore (as long as they don't block them doing stuff altogether)
and if it becomes bad enough, they can always sue like they did in 2014
https://www.nbcnews.com/science/space/elon-musks-spacex-sues-government-protest-military-launch-monopoly-n89926

>>15780087
Public funding is supposed to be fair grounds. Ideological discretion will always take place.

>>15780094
Public funding is for the losing companies not the winners. If they only funded winning companies, SpaceX would have never gotten a contract to begin with.

>>15780093
>SpaceX doesn't really need the government anymore
If only regulatory were fair, SpaceX would fair fine. I dont trust the current admin to be fair at all. The onus is on the government to show us that its fair. So far, there's mountains of evidence of regulators lawsuits against SpaceX/Musk.

>>15780090
>15 million
>A Space Force spokesperson confirmed that SpaceX on Sept. 1 was awarded a one-year contract for Starshield with a maximum value of $70 million.
/sfg/ has fallen.

>>15780090
it wasn't pentagon that leaked it, it was a person from the biden admin

>>15780096
Government contracts aren't meant for equity of companies. Its meant for best man for the job. Social justice about SpaceX/Tesla competitors is nonsense.

>>15780090
>Starlink only has $15 million service contract LMAO
What? My google shows 70 million for a single year.

>>15780099
Who happened to be a Pentagon leaker

>>15780098
70 million by end of year maximum is again, nothing for the gold standard service that no one else in the industry can provide, and the competitors provide 1/10th the capacity/speed/latency capabilities for 10x the price.

>>15780102
Then why did SpaceX get an 11th hour angel funding contract after 3 rocket failures in a row?

>>15780106
wasn't that from the malaysian government?

>>15780105
>Posts wrong number
>Gets called out
>UHHHHH THAT OTHER NUMBER IS STILL BAD OK????
Why should we listen to anything you say when you can't get a basic fact right?

>>15780106
Thats from Musk's paypal friends and Google co-founders mostly. Nothing to do with the government.

The rusty bolt problem from salty air is because government denied SpaceX launch license.

>>15780107
Yes, it was Malaysian payload/contract

>>15780018
Omedeto guzaimasu

>>15780109
>>15780110
>>15780107
This just isn't true. Have people here not read Liftoff?

>From 2006 to 2008, SpaceX endured three failed launches of the Falcon 1 rocket. The fourth, in September 2008, finally succeeded. Still, the company appeared poised to go bankrupt as it struggled to meet payroll in late 2008. Even as its cash ran out, SpaceX was in the midst of capital-intensive transition from the single-engine Falcon 1 rocket to the much more complex Falcon 9 rocket. Moreover, to earn business from NASA to supply the ISS, it would also need to build a delivery capsule.

>That fall and early winter marked the darkest hours for the cash-strapped Musk, as both SpaceX and Tesla spent hundreds of millions of dollars on development, with little revenue to show for it. "I could either pick SpaceX or Tesla or split the money I had left between them," Musk told Vance in the book. "That was a tough decision. If I split the money, maybe both of them would die. If I gave the money to just one company, the probability of it surviving was greater, but then it would mean certain death for the other company." The economy worsened that fall, and by December, Musk's money had run out and he'd tapped all the loans he could.

>Then, two days before Christmas of 2008, NASA announced it was awarding commercial cargo contracts to Orbital Sciences for 19 flights and SpaceX for 12 flights. The contract was valued at $1.6 billion for SpaceX.

NASA saved SpaceX with a 1.6 billion dollar contract when they had a 1/4th launch success rate, and no hardware to fulfill the contract with. How in the world can you say the government contracts go to the "Best man for the job" but ignore NASA giving 1.6 billion to a company that has lost 3/4 of it's rockets?

>>15780018
Your life half.

American life expectancy will be ~70 in few years. 35 means half your life is gone now.

>>15780090
>Pentagon spokesman
I just got done telling your dumb ass about politics behind the curtains.

>>15780120
If NASA did this today with ULA or Sierra Space you just know /sfg/ would be kvetching all the way to the bump limit.

>>15780120
´> Vance
opinion discarded

>>15780120
You forgot that Musk sued to have that contract be competed. It was originally sole sourced to Orbital Science. They challenged that in court.

In court, fairness rules. People hated SpaceX for that. Especially many of the NASA employees because Orbital Sciences is made by older NASA employees with ties to NASA (thats how they got the sole source in the first place)

>>15780125
That makes sense. Im sure /sfg/ has leveled headed and understanding when BO sued NASA for the moon landing contract :)

>>15780126
BO sued NASA to NOT have competition with SpaceX. Thats why they got the sole sourced contract with NASA for the 2nd moon lander.

>>15780120
but spacex had already proved they could launch for a paying customer? Plus, as has been said, they had to sue for it, the private launch monopoly and possibly the most capable contractor (ULA) wasn't interested.

>>15780128
Yep. It was Orbital Science who hadnt demonstrated anything vs SpaceX who had demonstrated they could put things into orbit on their own dime.

>>15780129
>>15780125
Now that I think about it, it was Kistler company, not Orbital Sciences.

>>15780126
spacex sued NASA to be considered/compete for the contract, I think BO sued to be reconsidered for the contract, they had already been evaluated.

Guys the jews in israel don't want us to know this
But if you pump sea water in a launch loop it freezes into ice giving arabs unlimited fresh water

>>15780129
>It was Orbital Science who hadnt demonstrated anything
HOW IS /SFG/ THIS RETARDED NOW? DO YOU NOT KNOW WHO ORBITAL SCIENCE IS? EVER HEARD OF THE MINOTAUR ROCKET? OR THE PEGASUS? WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED TO THIS GENERAL??????

>>15780134
BO lost the competition. So they had NASA do a second "competition" for which BlueOrigin was almost guaranteed to win, for which SpaceX could not compete, and it was sold as a "competition"

If 2nd place in Olympics got Gold and first place got Bronze, its not competition.

>>15780137
calm down, did you forget to dilate today or what is the problem?

>>15780137
anon mixed up orbital science and kistler. Calm down.

>>15780137
This guy

Now that gov shutdown is happening. Here's the NASA contingency plan

>>15780147
SLS will be affected afaik

>>15780142
Easy mistake, orbital sciences ended up entering the COTS competition late and winning it alongside spacex. Kistler and a bunch of others went down the drain.
I remember manley did a video on all the weird space startups that ended up competing. It really was the one chance for small companies to get a foot in the door of private spaceflight. I don't think anything like it will happen again.

>>15780170
Blue origin has won billions without ever putting anything to orbit

They've been winning billions for years since Falcon Heavy debut.

>>15780171
If there was any serious space startup company, they'd challenge all those awards to Blue Origin. But there isnt. BO is just controlled opposition to SpaceX atm.

>>15780124
what did he mean by this?

>>15779878
ChatGPT is a notorious asspuller.

>>15779956
Can't watch shit on that twix bullshit since it's all fucked up if you don't have an account.

>>15779878
you mad bro?

>>15780126
Hot take: BO will land on the moon but not starship, because starship is too big and not optimised for lunar operation. BO will fly the moon lander before hey fly new glenn.

>>15780187
Unless you're a die hard privacy advocate, without any account online, this stance is just political in nature. It takes like 3 sec to sign up and doesnt require any thing except a gmail acct tie in. Or if you want to manually sign up, just an email acct. Its basically a simple signup with just 1 basic email acct needed.

>>15780191
I actually had a dream last night where i met bezos and praised him for HLS and I knew what you say will come to pass. Then I signed up to work for Blue Origin, it was based

>>15780192
>Unless you're a die hard privacy advocate
Hi. I've been on the internet since dialup. You won't find anything about me no matter what search engine you use.

>>15780170
>Easy mistake
>Names sound nothing alike
>Track record is nothing alike
>Nothing similar other then they both competed for CRS
lol
lmao
cope harder

>>15780192
>Just make an account
>No I don't want to
>JUST MAKE ONE OKAY???
>No I didn't need to before
>MAKE A TWITTER ACCOUNT. PLEASE. PLEASE! TWTTER NEEDS THE USER NUMBERS PLEASE ITS LOSING SO MUCH MONEY
>No I don't think I will
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Still not making a twitter account elon.

>>15780192
>Begging people to make an account
>You only need an email!
"Only 10% of you subscribed to my channel" vibes.

total roketlab death. nuke their launch site. shoot their launch vehicles with a 50 cal.

yes.
hello.
spaceflight?
this isn't /pol/ or twitter!
GO BACK

>>15780212
We're talking about launch streams

>>15780209
>>15780208
If you want to comment on livestream, you need an account. Be it youtube or twitter/X.

If you just want to watch, its there without registration. Whats the issue?

>>15780215
most of the last day has been nothing but politics or twitter garbage

>>15780217
You need an account to see the stream at all on twitter.

asking for a friend do you need government approval for rocket launches when the government is shut down?
do they not lose all jurisdiction when they are shutdown?

>>15780224
Only for looking at profile post. Not individual posts.

>>15780217
Twitter requires an account to see any content now. It has for a while.

>>15780226
Good look finding individual posts without that account. It's a complete clusterfuck.

>>15780229
thats bullshit

>>15780192
And then I call someone niggardly and get lynched

>>15780229
https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1707940769821335590

Works fine for me. Why would you lie on the internet?

>>15779679
Off topic kys

>>15780232
If I go to user pages I only see posts from 2022. If I click on individual post links it shunts me back to their 2022 user page. IDK why you are lying about it, it's been like this for months.

>>15780235
>a 15 second clip you have no chance of finding without an account or someone to link you to it
Yeah, "works fine".
lol

>>15780229
Need your diaper changed? Baby make a poopy?

>>15780235
Gives me the "make an account" pop up over the content. If I click away from it it shoves me back to SpaceX 2022 twitter page. IDK why YOU are lying. You probably have an IP logged with your account, so they don't punt you back.

>>15778628
>leddit
go back

>>15780238
It's sorted by likes or whatever
You need to login or use nitter to see timeline

>>15780240
The streaming debacle is a great way to divide elon simps vs real spaceflight enjoyers.

>>15780244
Instead of bitching about all this, you could have signed up and watch all the content.

Brain rot is real

>>15780248
>real spaceflight enjoyers do not have emails and dont sign up to read about the latest spaceflight news/content
Sounds like you're suffering from Musk Derangement Syndrome and confusing that with "normal"

>>15780250
No thanks. I'll just watch one of the many re-streamers on youtube. Not going to prop-up twitter for elon.

>>15780253
Again, Musk derangement syndrome is your own personal political problem. Not a spaceflight problem.

Would you negros shut up about Twitter this shit belongs on >>>/g/, and people replying to them are falling for obvious bait just report them and move on. Jannies never do their fucking jobs I swear

>>15780252
Real spaceflight enjoyers want 1440p streams. You jumping to EDS just shows you are the former. I bet you pay for twitter blue too

why are autists so afraid of making accounts?
you know your browser has a password manager built in right?

>>15780248
you "enjoy" spaceflight so much you refuse to sign up for the largest news site about spaceflight just because you dislike the owner
okay bro

>>15780244
Stinky diaper! uh oh!

>>15780256
The only derangement is you baseding out over people not making a twitter account. Why do you care so much if I watch youtube resteamers?

>>15780259
Troons are suffering from EDS lol. Its not a matter of email. Its just a matter of politics.

>>15780265
don't make an account, who gives a shit
just shut up about X

>>15780259
>He uses his browser password manager
I bet it's chrome too. And I bet it's tied to your gmail as well.