/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15742524
This retard has no idea how tides work

"In contrast, sea ice is formed on water, is much thinner (typically less than 3 m (9.8 ft)), and forms throughout the Arctic Ocean. It is also found in the Southern Ocean around the continent of Antarctica."

>>15742524
funniest part is the IPCC admits that the difference between climate communism (RCP 2.6) and capitalism (RCP 8.5) is negligible
>31cm difference

>>15742524
Oh look, it's this false flag again. Can't wait for OP to come back in a few minutes to debunk his own post and try to get social validation from it.

>>15742578
>t. insane paranoid schizo

>>15742578
This guy gets it. ALL AGW threads are starting by green shills. They goal is to keep it clogging your awareness as much as possible.

>>15742605
So do they (and you) not understand that most people on 4chan will only see the OP and move in with their lives? They won't see the refutation? This is why misinformation proliferates on this site.

Gentle reminder that global-warming papers only get published if they tilt as alarmist as possible. Meet Patrick Brown, the Sokal of climate:
https://www.thefp.com/p/i-overhyped-climate-change-to-get-published

>>15742524
https://youtu.be/lPgZfhnCAdI?feature=shared&t=507

>>15742611
>most people on 4chan will only see the OP and move in with their lives
>They won't see the refutation
These threads get literally hundreds of replies.

>>15742559
Sea level change isn't what anyone cares about. Nobody cares that you watched Waterworld as a kid and thought it was science.

>>15742695
Isn't it convenient that you don't care about the easiest to observe unfalsifiable proof of their claim, or the fact that it doesn't exist?

>>15742524
>he lacks critical information

>>15742524
It's funny how 99% of scientists are propagandists. They get their money from the guberment so they have to...

>>15742524
>Ice on land
>Ice 'n land
>Ice n land
>Ice nland
>Icenland
>Iceland

>>15742524

>>15742611
A straw man argument is not refutation.

>>15742731
Ahem. You mean a strawPERSON argument.

>>15742725
Stop dropping antique keys in the ocean. Problem solved.

>>15742621
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-glacial_rebound

>>15742740
>anon discovers the key to solving the rising sea levels

>>15742721
Isn't it convenient that you only care about the least destructive, most sensationalized aspect of climate change? Did you have a big gay crush on Kevin Costner?

>>15742763
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-glacial_rebound
coastline of finland at the end of the last ice age vs current coastline of finland
pretty much proves that melting glaciers does not cause sea level rise

>>15742524
you know how big icebergs are, right? they aren't just whats in the water, but also the mountainous ice sticking up and above it. Sure, the stuff already in the water won't cause much displacement once it melts, but everything above the water is yet to be tallied into the ocean's total. Adding that much more water will cause a lot difference.

>>15742725
You know icebergs are 90% underwater, right? So getting rid of them would lower the waterline like in your pic

>>15742730
The amogus is really the best part of his comics.

>>15743248

>>15743250
And luckily ice is only in icebergs and permafrost on land is just myth, so all melting ice is already in the water.

>>15743418
>they can’t make me more smarter
Many such cases

>>15743418
That guy doesn't write like he has 82 IQ. He has too much self awareness for that and his grammar is relatively correct.
Look up the average black twitter accounts. That is 82 IQ.

>>15743241
>glacial melting causes a reduction in sea level
good news, i'm sure all the doomsday hysterics will be pleased to see this

>>15743539
I have bad news for you: your own IQ is <90 as well.

>>15743573
Did someone hurt you?

>>15743241
What is the explanation here?

>>15743580
It hurts my feelings to see what kind of utterly mundane stuff low IQs associate with intelligence.

>>15742524
Hi OP. Hope this helps.

>>15743612
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-glacial_rebound
You're presuming that the melting glacier is massless and that the land is a rigid surface, neither of which are true. When the glacier melts, the land becomes uncompressed and expands vertically

>>15743617
Great, so Greenland will pop up but Denmark will be underwater.

>>15743617
Neither of which are addressed by OP's image since he doesn't even include the possibility of ice on land and you aren't showing that the land uncompresses at a rate equivalent to the sea level rise by the displace water from land ice.

>>15742728
>NASA says ice on land has increased in thickness
checkmate warmtards

>>15743612
Hi cunt, hope this helps as well. Trust your experts

>>15743598
You sound like a dumb person. You are not allowed to talk about IQ.

>>15743985
>b-b-but i can spell 'logorrhea', how could my IQ be 90???
>b-b-but i read kant, how could my IQ be 90???
>b-b-but i second grade teacher said i was the smartest kid in class, how could my IQ be 90???
>b-b-but my witty reddit comment received 50 updoots, how could my IQ be 90???
Etc. A lukewarm midwit like you couldn't learn to tell between intelligence and its superficial proxies if the two took turns fucking you in the ass.

It's not about icebergs you genius it's about water expanding with temperature just like any fluid

>>15744039
>it's about water expanding
It would expand by 4% if it literally boiled. AGW retards are legit mental.

>>15744045
you'd have to work out the numbers but I'd guess an expansion of 2% in the whole volume of an ocean implies a rise in sea level of several meters

>>15744054
Except it's completely implausible for it to heat up that much.

>>15744057
I'm not so sure but I guess we disagree on that one

>>15743250
If they would instantaneously evaporate and the resulting water vapour would be shipped to Mars, yes

But then you might as well just take buckets of water out of the ocean, less effort

>>15742725
>not car batteries

I posted in the former one. And I post it again.
In the last 100 years, there was a rise of about 1 feet to oceans and seas.
I yet to see ONE picture of such.
I seen graphs, I seen charts, I heard arguments and some immature insults yet I never saw ONE PIC that shows a piece of land considers to be DRY (or at least temporary dry) is now permanently under water thanks to rising sea levels.
such an incident must be even visible in places like Florida (via a satellite) given that Florida is only above 100 feet above ground. This 1 feet rise could have changed the shape of Florida and it should have been a GREAT evidence. Yet it’s not here.
Again, I ask you, provide me with ONE picture.
Or please fuck off with your charts, cause they are worthless, when they are not depicting the reality.

>>15743250
>have glass of water
>drop ice cubes in water
>let the ice cubes melt
>the water is now lower???

>>15745033
Yes. Because of density
Water levels after melting the ice would be higher than “only water” but lower than ice and water

>>15745087
>have 500g of water
>measure its volume
>add 100g of ice
>let it melt
>be left with 600g of water
>it occupies less volume than 500g of water because...???

>>15745383
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-glacial_rebound

>>15745383
Dude why are you so obtuse. I literally told you. It occupy MORE than 500 g water.
Who even said it’s less?

>>15745582
>>>the water is now lower???
>Yes. Because...

>>15743787
Damn. Would really suck if there were any other landmasses in the world that had ice on them, right?
By the way, here is a study, that you will probably dismiss and never read, that goes into interesting details about potential problems in the methods used by the study in your pictel
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-to-believe-in-antarctica-rsquo-s-great-ice-debate/

>>15746300

>>15746300
I also mainstream science through blogs of the modern favorites. NDT and its in my feed. Billy Nye is the guy. Veritasium, I'd love to taste him. Hell, I'd drink any of their vsauce.

>>15746300
>scientificamerican

>>15747373
>>15747379
>not attacking the argument
interesting

>>15747397
Dear mr frank, a diary isn't an argument.

>>15747373

>>15743612
The continents also float on the water.

>>15742524
>>15742727
>>15743612
>>15744039
>>15744045
>>15744054
>>15744057
>>15744063

You guys are all fucking retarded. Polar ice caps are FRESHWATER (less dense) and the sea is SALTWATER (more dense). You can easily do the calculations and you'll find that the water level actually increase by 4% of the total volume that was being displaced by the floating ice (104% of the volume of the saltwater which was displaced by the ice). That is a significant fucking rise you retards. Go find a pen and paper and learn to solve some basic fucking physics before showing your absolute retardation on a taiwanese basket weaving forum. Also, applies to all the shitbrains arguing it's the land glaciers melting or temperature expansion we're worried about instead of the polar ice caps. Go read some fucking books.

>>15748389
to be unambigously clear it's a 4% increase in the volume of water that was previously displaced by ice (aka the amount of volume putting ice in the sea increases compared to removing all the ice), not the complete sea volume. Clearing this up before some retard stats to argue that there must have been many many metres of ocean rise by now by this logic

>>15747883
No they don't?????? who the fuck told you that. they're floating on magma. You know there's actually land below the oceans right?

>>15748398
>You know there's actually land below the oceans right?
No, I'm pretty sure it's elephants.

>>15748871
But what's under the elephants?

>>15745087
Wrong. The water level would be identical after melting if the ice is 100% floating. However in reality a lot of ice is not floating, but is supported by land.

>>15748389
>>15748395
Good point although retards/trolls/bots will hardly understand it

>>15749185
the land and the water are all supported by crust floating on magma, adding water to oceans increases the pressure oceans place on continents resulting in geological uplift and a spreading of the oceans rather than simple increasing sea level. furthermore the land itself is all flexible and when the pressure the glaciers place on land is remove, the land expands upwards.
presuming that the land is some sort of completely rigid, unchanging surface is contrary to all known scientific information on the topic

>>15742524
The ice on Greenland isn’t floating.

>>15749200

>>15742524
Again, I will ask this again.
Please read>>15744918
And see if you can provide me with an answer.
Why so much bullshit argument when you can just show a picture?

>>15742524
antarctica and greenlands ice arent in the ocean

if they melt the sea level SHOULD go up at least a little bit.

>>15749155
A giant turtle.

>>15749326
Peak retard

>>15748871
>>15749408
Based discworlder

Idiots.
It'll just evaporate anyway.

>>15748389
How the hell did fresh water get there

>>15749498
failiens.

>>15742524
now try it with freshwater ice cubes in saltwater

>>15743783
Now you trust NASA

>>15749627
Now you doubt NASA

>>15742524
Most of the ice is actually on top of land, not floating in the ocean. When the land-covering glaciers melt, that water becomes a stream and fills up the ocean deeper. Obviously a floating iceberg melting can't raise the ocean.

>>15748389
Isn't it supposed to raise like 8cm by 2100? Who the fuck cases, not me

>>15743250
>What are glaciers

>>15749642
Only 15% of the ice is on land, rest is in polar ice caps. Also what i said in >>15748389

>>15749498
>>15748389
When salt water freezes it freezes in forms of small crystals (very slowly over millenia), salt is already solid so it is expelled from the thin crystals which become very fresh water and fuse together to form giant icebergs and glaciers, once large enough, they can amass more water from the precipitation, which is already mostly distilled and hence freshwater. The earlier part of this process is called freeze distillation and it wouldn't work with rapid freezing which isn't what happens in nature.

Then where is all this water coming from, my guy?
Seriously, if you're going to deny climate change at the very least pick something that isn't this easily verifiable.

>>15750581
>chart shows 1 feet of water added
>there is not one picture that demonstrate this “reality”
Fake chart and fake science
Produce ONE pic of any beach that shows this
It should be visible via a satellite specially in a low place like Florida
Go ahead, show us
>easily verifiable
Yes please, with pictures

https://www.bitchute.com/video/8AHkAJrpAxd4/

>>15750614
Unless you're baiting, the fact that you don't trust a graph, but would trust a picture if I showed you one says a lot about how scientifically inept you are.

>>15742524

You'd have to have an IQ less than that of a downie negro to be convinced by this retardation. Unsurprisingly, most boomers lap this shit up. Keep sucking the dick of the oil jew, faggots.

>>15750687
>You'd have to have an IQ less than that of a downie negro to be convinced by this retardation.
Pic related.

>Keep sucking the dick of the oil jew, faggots.
Indeed/:

https://www.unep.org/unep-50-leaders-through-years/maurice-strong
>Maurice Strong played a unique and critical role in globalizing the environmental movement.
>In June 1992, he led another landmark meeting: the UN Conference on Environment and Development
>The conference addressed climate change and underscored the right to sustainable development, among other topics.

Can't make this stuff up. Greentards need to be killed ASAP.

>>15742524
>some body please think of the rich ppl and their beachfront houses!!!!!!!

>>15750706
>Mr. Strong’s other notable appointments included:
>Senior Advisor to the President of the World Bank
>Foundation Board member of the World Economic Forum
>He also had an expansive career in the private sector, where he led some of Canada’s most prestigious energy companies.
By which they mean he ran a bunch of oil companies. You just can't make this stuff up.

>>15750614

>>15750759
Al Gore's family fortune all originates from Occidental Petroleum

>>15751013
Al Gore is and has always been a meme, but how many people have ever heard of Maurice Strong? He was a bit more instrumental in the worldwide green scam than Al Gore, at least according to the UN. I wonder why we never hear about him (or his oil ventures).

>>15750764
This is good propoganda material
Why didn’t they use them before?

>>15750678
No. I want to have both. I don’t trust a graph to tell me about how bad things are, without any physical evidance.
I don’t trust pics alone either, but since you and everyone else provided us with the graphs, any picture that follow your picture can be trusted as well
Now, provide me with pictures

>>15750678
>the fact that you don't trust a graph, but would trust a picture if I showed you one says a lot about how scientifically inept you are.
He's right. You're wrong. Anyone can shit out graphs.

>>15751189
Anyone can fake a picture.
Also anyone might be able to shit out a graph, but not anyone can shit out multiple peer-reviewed studies

>>15751289
All I am hearing is that the experts can't take a picture, much like those nasa boys.

>>15751289
>Anyone can fake a picture.
Yes, but at least it adds some basic element of plausibility to what is otherwise the equivalent of a schizo rambling.

>>15751289
>peer-reviewed studies
mfw replication crisis junk published by "the peers"?
its all lies

>>15749408
Okay but what's below the turtle?

>>15752258
Its turtle all the way down.

>>15752217
Even the cover is already cringe af.
Like can't you denialist retards use something other than MS Paint LOL

>>15751289
>multiple peer reviews study
Aka “Multiple people checked the graph (no picture or physical evidence) and approved it
Why not make some pictures and include them in your peer review “studies” next time!?

>>15752369
>ohhh the cover is bad so the info is bad too
Your graph got no pictures, it’s therefore bad

>>15752375
Your graphs don't even have labels LOL
Also they're so obviously taken from some cringe boomer Facebook page it's really amusing, with all the jpeg artifacts and shit
Like you probably think lossless image formats are an invention of (((them))) or something LMAO

>>15752411
I don’t even care. Your graphs are as worthless, because you can’t show the effect in real life with a simple picture

>>15752417
I don't either. Your kind is losing the information war, and there's nothing you can do about it, and it's making you seethe LOL

Hope you like bugs LMAO

>>15752488
>muh muh information war
Lol good thing you at least being honest about it not being real
Congratulation
As for “bugs” sorry man, I can pay for taxed meats, you and the other retards asking for this though, have to adjust your taste to worm meat and roach milk

>>15752488
Daily reminder that it has become mainstream to dismiss climate """science""" and condemn climate """scientists""".

>>15752374
>Why not make some pictures and include them in your peer review “studies” next time!?
Maybe because pictures are a really shitty way to measure something and the only ones caring about pictures would be lay people, who aren't the target audience.

>>15752876
>want to convince lay people to get along with the agenda
>can’t even speak to them
Lol how lazy you guys are

>>15749744
>water and fuse together to form giant icebergs and glaciers
Sure this is a competition who act most retarded, but I I'm still curious how the destillation process is done on tha glaciers were icebergs come from

>>15749642
>When the land-covering glaciers melt
Ever saw the average temperature of arctic ice areas. Hope you were paid here, otherwise ..

>>15753033
>>15749744
It's not done on the icebergs alone, the whole glaciers are already distilled on formations. Icebergs come from a variety of sources including prominently being breakaway parts of glaciers that were freeze distilled on formation and accumulated lots of precipitated water.

Think about it this way. Partially formed ice crystals expel salt and the water around them dissolves it, leaving only freshwater ice crystals that grow up slowly like this over millenia to become glaciers. For any reason a part of the glacier breaks away, and that becomes an iceberg. it's also freshwater because it froze the same way

>>15752503
Everyone knows global warming is fake

>>15753544
>if everybody believes something it must be true!
An actual fallacy dumbass

>>15753544

>>15742524
Flat Earth
Climate change denial
Moon Hoax
Etc

Reminder that these sorts of threads belong on /pol/
How are they political?
They are demoralization threads.
Their purpose is to give the impression that over 2000 years of Western civilization, innovation, and scientific progress has been a failure. For they suggest that many people are ignorant and dimwitted beyond belief. They would like to make it appear that progress is hopeless in the face of such obstinate stupidity which constantly undermines the principles of intelligent western thought.
Ignore these threads.
For the vast majority of Westerners are well educated, logical and rational. Scientific proofs, evidence and rational discussion make sense to them. Even the majority of those who are ignorant, when presented with the evidence, will willingly acknowledge the sense of an argument based on reason and knowledge.
These threads try to make it look like its not the case. They try to portray a large and significant proportion of the population as mentally deficient, grossly ignorant, and incapable of reason. That is not the case. We would not have progressed from the stone age to space flight, computers, and genetics otherwise. We may very well be on the brink of manipulating quantum mechanics and developing true artificial intelligence.
You will not let these disingenuous agents sway you from that appreciation, of course not. But do insist on the removal of such nonsense from a board dedicated to educated and rational discourse.
Promote the appointment of moderators with sufficient education that they can identify such garbage on /sci/ and consign it to the cesspools of more suitable boards, such as /pol/, or failing that then /x/

>>15753633
2000 years of failure? No, I don't think so. Only a little more than 100. Something to do with a central banking charter of 1913. Something to do with inept materialists.

>>15742835
Please list these destructive aspects of climate change, and their magnitude.

The various predictions of the magnitude of sea level rise is shown in >>15742559.

>>15746300
Would really suck if sea level rise wont even surpass 1 meter by 2100 in the worst projection.
>>15742559

>>15754117
sea levels haven't risen even slightly since at least the 1990s
t. i've lived across the street from the same beach since the 1990s

>>15747379
>science must not be used to foster white supremacy
>btw here is 23andme to VERIFY your ancestry, the latest developments in medicine is explaining everything through GENETIC PREDETERMINISM

>>15751289
Nothing is really peer reviewed. You have drones on the pockets of huge investment funds and pharmaceuticals

>>15752217
I had no idea you could upload pdf as a format

>>15752876
Not the retard you are responding to, but shouldn't what you just said worry you? What good is science if it can't be disseminated to everyone and improve our lives?

>>15754711
Nah I agree. It is incredibly worrying.
Probably one of the biggest challenges of our generation especially once people start making up whatever they want under the guise of skepticism

>>15754901
People have every right to be skeptics however, regardless of how they express it. After Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Unit 731, Mengele and covid it's not on us to blindly trust science.

>>15754901
I have a news flash for you: skepticism has always been about distrusting and challenging the establishment. Only in your modern corporate clownworld does "skepticism" mean incessantly and dishonestly attacking those who question the powerful and their pet institutions.

>>15754921
>>15754930
Skepticism itself isn't the problem, it's the backbone of the scientific method.
But too many people seem to use skepticism as a cover for just cherry picking that single article that confirms their preestablished beliefs. Ever wonder why some of these self proclaimed skeptics never have to change their mind about anything, because they can just dismiss anything that challenges their views?
The establishment does some bad things, but being anti-establishment just for the sake of being anti-establishment is just retarded.

>>15754951
>too many people seem to use skepticism as a cover for just cherry picking that single article
What's wrong with this except for the fact that it gets you mad when people undermine your illusory consensus?

>being anti-establishment just for the sake of being anti-establishment is just retarded.
No, it's what skepticism means.

>>15754958
>What's wrong with this except for the fact that it gets you mad when people undermine your illusory consensus?
Because it can endanger your own health and safety, or worse, that of others.
>No, it's what skepticism means
Skepticism means to assume someone you dislike is always wrong and reject anything that suggests otherwise? Noted.

>>15754970
>questioning my masters puts everyone in danger
Not an argument.

>Skepticism means to assume someone you dislike is always wrong and reject anything that suggests otherwise? Noted.
No, it means to question your establishment as a matter of principle.

>>15754970
Eat daner faggit

>>15754971
Are you deliberately misunderstanding what I'm saying or just to stupid for basic reading comprehension?

>>15754978
Neither. You're just unwilling to accept the implications of what you're saying. Let's take this, for example:
>it can endanger your own health and safety, or worse, that of others.
Are we going to pretend this "objection" doesn't automatically apply to any criticism of your so-called scientific consensus? Maybe we should stop questioning things, just to be on the safe side? And you still haven't explained why it's rationally invalid to highlight specifically information that contradicts the "consensus", you just make consequentialist objections that have nothing to do with the core issue.

>>15754988
>>15754978

>>15754991
I guess I've reached the end of your dialogue tree? You "people" are just sad.

>>15754993
I put a bird there so you wouldn't follow me

>>15754978
>spouts generic talking point
>talking point gets btfo
>doesn't know what to do next
lol. the absolute state of AGW believers

>>15750614
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35845368/

>>15754951
>being anti-establishment just for the sake of being anti-establishment

How about being anti-establishment for all the horrors of imperialism INCLUDING Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Napalm, Auschwitz-Birkenau, Unit 731 and biological warfare based on gene modification?
Because it seems you say "being antiestablishment is fine" at best as a complacency and at worst as an abstraction.

>>15742524
>>15742725
>>15743612
This is cool and all but what about rainfall?
Why is rainfall never mentioned in these discussions?
You’d think it would be a big deal with “climate” being thrown around so much, but I never hear about what’s supposed to happen to rainfall.
Is the overton window so Eurocentric it’s supposed to focus exclusively on muh glaciers?
Rainfall is way more important imo.

Willing to take data and predictions from either side.

>>15755054
How about being anti-establishment for all the horrors of leftist ideologies?

>>15755064
No, what I said is actually historic

>>15755068
So historically, no horrors have been committed by leftist establishments in the name of leftist ideologies?

>>15755069
>in the name

>>15755071
Have leftist establishments been committing horrors?

>>15755074
>mccarthyist dillemas

>>15755075
Why do you struggle to answer that simple question?

>>15755078
I don't struggle.
Knowledge lies in posing the right questions.

>>15755084
>accuses someone else of not being "truly" anti-establishment
>cherrypicks the establishments of his ideological enemies as targets for his supposedly "anti-establishment" condemnation
>conveniently ignores all of history's most prolific mass-murdering regimes
>gets called out
>doubles down and accuses people of being "mccarthyist" for pointing out his hypocrisy
Totally predictable. As soon as you see a leftist buzzword (i.e. "imperialist") you know comical levels of hypocrisy will immediately follow. This is why I support the indiscriminate extrajudicial killing of anyone who identifies as left-wing or spouts left-adjacent terminology unironically.

>>15755089
It's not a videogame or a theoretical exercise. You don't have to opt for one or the other you pinball-brained maniac. Do you even understand what I mean when I call you pinball-brained?

>>15755094
>accuses someone else of not being "truly" anti-establishment
>cherrypicks the establishments of his ideological enemies as targets for his supposedly "anti-establishment" condemnation
>conveniently ignores all of history's most prolific mass-murdering regimes
>gets called out
>doubles down and accuses people of being "mccarthyist" for pointing out his hypocrisy
Totally predictable. As soon as you see a leftist buzzword (i.e. "imperialist") you know comical levels of hypocrisy will immediately follow. This is why I support the indiscriminate extrajudicial killing of anyone who identifies as left-wing or spouts left-adjacent terminology unironically.

>>15755089
>This is why I support the indiscriminate extrajudicial killing of anyone who identifies as left-wing or spouts left-adjacent terminology unironically.
based

>>15755057
What does rainfall have to do with the holoCO2t?

>>15755064
>all the horrors of leftist ideologies?
inb4 she quotes numbers of "victims of communism" which include the 600,000 Germans who died during the siege of Leningrad

>>15756790

>>15756790
Or I bet he is talking about the 50 million Germans who died at the Siege of Beijing during the height of Mao's reign.

>>15757048
More like the 60,000 mutts who tried to invade Vietnam

>>15753586
surprising canada doesn't rank higher in the gaytheist scale

>>15755089
Based fedposter.

>>15742612
Global warming shills are largely if not entirely responsible for the decay of pubic trust in science

>>15759283
the 9000 genders gang contributed, so did the covid hoaxers

>>15755057
it will stay the same because the climate isn't changing

>>15743639
basic energy conservation, pleb

>>15742695
I thought the flooding of major coastal cities was a major concern? Is this next on the list of "Nobody ever said this, we were always at war with Eastasia"?

>>15762000
>the flooding of major coastal cities a major concern
more of a hope than a concern

>>15743248
>Adding that much more water will cause a lot difference.
From icebergs? All you idiots do not even have base knowledge about the simplest thing of physics such as densitiiii and massssss. To be 18 posting here is no help because retardation has no age limit..

>>15752217
I am the anon who said I didn't know pdf was an uploading format. I downloaded this by accident so, and started reading it. Are the email leaks true? Were they leaked by a whistleblower/journalist?

>>15762000
8cm isn't going to permanently submerge any city. Flooding will be a slightly bigger problem, but not as much as the seasonal heat waves near the equator which will be lethal and drive people out of their countries.

>>15762331
They are misrepresented and out of context.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climatic_Research_Unit_email_controversy

>>15762331
>Are the email leaks true?
Yes. By the way, when the """climate researchers""" involved were asked to disclose their "research data" to address some of the suspicions raised by the Climate Gate scandal, they refused, stating literally that they don't want evil climate change deniers poking holes in their hard work. That was literally their response.

>>15762775
Why did you link to a known propaganda article?

>>15762777
Quiet, Boris. The adults are talking.

>>15762775
>wikipedia

>>15742524
We know.

>>15762831
https://www.unep.org/unep-50-leaders-through-years/maurice-strong

>Maurice Strong played a unique and critical role in globalizing the environmental movement. He led the historic United Nations Conference on the Human Environment
>it resulted in the founding of the UN Environment Programme (UNEP)
>Six months later, he was elected by the UN General Assembly to become UNEP’s first Executive Director
>In June 1992, he led another landmark meeting: the UN Conference on Environment and Development
>The conference addressed climate change and underscored the right to sustainable development

>Mr. Strong’s other notable appointments included:
>Under-Secretary-General and Special Advisor to the UN Secretary-General,
>Senior Advisor to the President of the World Bank
>Foundation Board member of the World Economic Forum
>He also had an expansive career in the private sector, where he led some of Canada’s most prestigious energy companies.

According to the UN green shill department, your ideology was established and globralized by a literal oil executive/bankster/WEF founder. What gives?

P.S.: Ukraine lost.

>>15762775
>The most quoted email was one in which Phil Jones said that he had used "Mike's Nature trick" when preparing a graph as a 1999 cover illustration for the World Meteorological Organization "to hide the decline" in reconstructions based on tree-ring proxy data post-1960, when measured temperatures were actually rising. The "trick" was a technique to combine instrumental temperature record data with long term reconstructions, and "the decline" referred to the tree-ring divergence problem,[33] which had already been openly discussed in scientific papers,[34][35] but these two phrases were taken out of context by commentators promoting climate change denial, including US Senator Jim Inhofe and former Governor of Alaska Sarah Palin, as though the phrases referred to some decline in measured global temperatures, even though they came from an email written at a time when temperatures were at a record high.[32]

In the pdf, the man uses that e-mail as an example of why tree rings are not a reliable proxy for comparing temperatures, not as evidence that temperatures are dropping. In fact he states in the prologue that releasing energy in the form of emissions, that took millions of years to concentrate, is something we should be seriously looking after.

>>15764202
>reading wikisills propaganda articles

>>15763891
The ukraine is nothing but an unsettled borders territory. It couldn't have lost because there is a corrupt banana warlord does not a country make.

>>15764428
They're fighting of access to gas and coal resources in eastern ukraine.
Burisma bought Hunter Biden and his father a decades ago, Obama then used the CIA to install a puppet government later Biden wrecked the Russian gas pipeline to central Europe and now all they have to do to permanently take over the profits from selling gas to Europe is to get their hands on the eastern Ukrainian gas fields.
However they failed to complete the scheme

>>15742524
>apologize
Sorry.
Happy?

>>15742529
This retard has no idea that there's land holding up a lot of the ice, it's not just all free-floating.

The proper analogy is to place the ice on an independently-supported platform above the water, then as the ice melts, what happens? More water in glass.

>>15765293
the land is flexible, when it has a heavy mass of ice on it, it compresses, when the ice is removed, it expands.
sea level is not rising, your excuses for your doomsday scenario don't dovetail with observed reality

>>15765293
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-glacial_rebound

>>15766770
This was already irrelevant here: >>15745408

>>15743250
>getting rid of them would lower the waterline like in your pic
> where are they going anon

Just kill this fucking thread already

>>15767019
ice is less dense than water, when the ice all melts theres less total volume and sea level goes down