/sci/ - Science & Math

KILL ALL EARTHERS

guys
when is something HAPPENING?

>>15733288
Atlas V launch in V hours

>>15731235
Atlas 5 launch stream live in 4h 40min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76zt-6-fnRg

NSF stream live in 3h 30min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfzCMPgcpTA

https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2023/09/ula-nrol-107/

>>15733289
>oldspace rocket
>something

This configuration is going to be 551, the most powerful one on the right

>>15733293
https://spaceflightnow.com/atlas/av045/infosheet.html

>>15733282
Glass the Earth, demigod war eventually

>>15733290
This one can measure even the microest of penises from orbit. Through half foot of concrete ofcourse

>>15733296
When you realize what we could already have in terms of space tech and settlement with a little shuffling of money and priorities, and that the only thing we've done instead is invent TikTok and TikTok players, it makes you want to roundhouse kick an earther.

>>15733302
We could be living around Jupiter right now...

>>15733294
oh wrong fact sheet
this is for a launch in 2014, but the configuration is going to be Atlas V 551 in this case as well

>>15733290
thats what they said yesterday
>nasa
>spaceflight
choose one

this is the first atlas launch this year
spacex launches twice a week

>>15733288
nothing is gonna happen until the faa is abolished

>>15733301
so your secret is no longer safe even though you've been hiding it in your mum's basement all this time

>Congrats to SpaceX for completing & documented the 57 items required by the FAA for Flight 2 of Starship!
>Worth noting that 6 of the 63 items refer to later flights.
We are going
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1700789411279966339

>>15733337
I thoght that info is restricted by ITAR

>>15733337
>>15733339
DOOOMEERRSS BTFOOOED YET AGAIN

we are sooo back

>>15733337
>>15733339
Elon is the fucking king, man :)

So this stuff is clearly what spacex came up with right? FAA just signed off that

>>15733339
it's proprietary, not necessarily ITAR restricted

>>15733349
UHHH SIR THIS DOES NOT SIGNAL A RESUMPTION OF STARSHIP LAUNCHES AT BOCA CHICA
IT JUST DOESNT OK??

>>15733339
>>15733337

so most of the future action items are about raptor and general reliability

Raptor leak mitigation:
> C13 Improved igniter seal design
Booster reliability improvement:
> C34 Change certain booster valve timing
Raptor reliability improvement
> C39 Improve oxygen valve design
> C40 Improve oxygen valve seal design
> C41 Improve design of hot manifold

I mean wasn't one of the largest problems leakage (if you ignore the launchpad and FTS, the latter is solved just by adding more explosive)

>>15733337
>>15733339
LETS

FUCKING

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

starship can't be stopped

>>15733353
No idea what you are implying, I just always thought that FAA was the one that gave you a list you have to accomplish to be able to launch again.

>Coat gimbal assembly with lubricant
it wasn't lubed before?

The ball is in the FAA basketball court

>>15733373
the egg is being boiled

>>15733359
Ew.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1700718126235861168

>>15733393
Whenever I need to name something in a video game I pick up a random container and choose a random thing from the ingredients list. Elon Musk makes me feel much less bad about doing that.

>>15733393
I like him but holy fuck. At least give your offspring some kino names like Gaius or Aurelian or whatever God damn.

There's scientific literature about giving kids unique names and it makes them thinks there special and gives them motivation

>>15733405
Pretty sure this doesn't apply after the 163rd substitute teacher goes to read your name on the roll call

>uhhhhhhh
>is this a typo?...
>techno...... mechanicus?.......
>sniggering intensifies

>>15733414
>this nigga thinks Elon's kids go to public school

>>15733414
these kids are not going to public school
Musk had a private school called Ad Astra for his and a small number of other kid, but I think it got discontinued after the first 5 got old enough

>>15733285
FPBP

>>15733393
>Well, my daddy left home when I was three
>Didn't leave very much to my mom and me
>Except this old guitar and an empty bottle of booze
>Now I don't blame him 'cause he run and hid
>But the meanest thing that my daddy ever did
>Was before he left, he went and named me Tau

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STt0dpgn900

>>15733337
>>15733339

>>15733337
>>15733339
B-BUT ELON IS A MIDWIT WHO DIDN'T KNOW!!!!!!

>>15733420
>>15733422
Private schools also have substitute retard teachers anons... also if you had ever attended a private school you would know its just a public school with extra snobbery and somewhat less shit teachers

>t. private schooled at richfag school

>>15733337
based
>>15733393
cringe

>>15733447
its not even a private school, its a school specifically created for his kids by him

>>15733337
>>15733339
So why was he posting that he didn't know what was going on?

>>15733452
It was a joke.

>still no full stack testing
wtf is going on?

>>15733453
and anyone without EDS already knew that.
heavy political bias turns people completely retarded.

>>15733452
He has been too wrapped up in the birdapp arc to pay attention to his ventures which are actually useful.

>>15733453
So he was just pretending to be retarded.

>>15733452
>>15733455
Type 1 here. This is absolute bareface dicksucking and severely embarrassing even for us type 1 simps. It's very obvious he had no idea what was going on, got an email, seethed and lashed out on his new attention platform before taking 10 seconds to find out what was happening. This xeeter shit has been a total disaster for rocketry.

>>15733452
there was a later post where he said he hadn't actually got the full list in a mail or something, should have probably asked someone at SpaceX via email instead of shitposting it for all the world to see

>>15733464
which is based

>>15733454
they did some tests already

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L6B8w5lkcY

> an hour after stacking, the engine section was purged for 4 minutes
> I wonder if this 4min 30s purge test could have been a flight simulation test

Wednesday they get the loycense approved , Friday 1º attempt.

You heard it first here

>>15733353
Obviously, the FAA has to actually approve a modification of their existing launch license. This was just the "we did out homework, can we go play now" report to clear the way for the license. Anyone know if those dumb environmentalist lawsuits are over and there are no potential injunctions left?

>>15733301
It's for spying other sats in GEO (https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/08/us-spy-satellite-agency-isnt-so-silent-about-new-silent-barker-mission/))

>>15733337
>>15733339
>>15733393
WE ARE SO BACK

>>15733288

>>15733339
>I thoght that info is restricted by ITAR
The Elon of Mars has the unilateral and complete authority to declassify information at will

>>15733452
it was retard bait

>>15733514
It has no specific information on it, so beyond general info about what they did, I don't see any problem with it

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1700813382188671334

>>15733546
> There’s a large inflow of tourists, here in Starbase, who have traveled great distances hoping to witness Starship’s next launch.
> Even though it seems the launch has been delayed, they are making the most of it and enjoying themselves as they take photos and videos of the fully stacked ship, as it’s no doubt a sight to see!
> They also seem to be enjoying the recent addition of port-a-potties down by the Sheriff next to the Orbital Tank Farm.
> It’s always a treat to meet people who’ve traveled in from all over the planet to see Starship, in person.
> SpaceX is bringing humanity together in so many ways.
> It doesn’t matter what language you speak, we all speak the same language when it comes to dreaming about human beings’ future among the stars.
> Thank you @SpaceX and @elonmusk for building something we can rally around and dream about the future of what could be.
> To Mars

>>15733551

>>15733337
>>15733339
It's probably additional pressure for the FAA: look, we did what you asked (more precisely: what we were going to do anyway and that you accepted), so gib license.

>>15733573
Happening in your head

>>15733288
Another Starship launch this week what more do you want?

>>15733452
please understand. Xitter is the south africans life work. Does not have time to pay much attention to the smaller side ventures

>>15733393
why does he hate his kids so much. They are going to be relentlessly bullied for those faggot names

>>15733611
X is going to bully you for your gay earther name

>>15733290
NSF stream live now

The ring is where the rocket can be seen (probably line of sight not intersecting earths surface anymore, its very cloudy now at the launch site though)

>mars
>Basically worse than a desert
>going to choose to use our funds on that habitat
>Not Pluto or the moon
>What

>>15733687
I'M SAVING US

NPGAY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfunZdm14IE

> By now, you have probably heard of China's megaconstellation project to complete with Starlink: "Guowang". But did you know that a second megaconstellation plan is emerging in the region of Shanghai? Called "G60 Starlink", this constellation calls for 1,296 and then 12,000 satellites to be sent to low Earth orbit. There's also a fascinating geopolitical twist involving Germany and the United States, highlighting the global struggle for licenses. Let's dive deep into this story. Enjoy!

Is this a fucking bait account? Is one of you retards running it?

>>15733713
why do you think its a bait account?
retards like that exist

>>15733713
Did you notice the sign that said dead nitter storage?

>>15733290
ULA stream live now

>>15733611
In space everyone will have names like that. They're not going to be called "Kevin"

>>15733758
98th Atlas launch

>>15733721
Anon you know I didn't see no sign

>>15733428
Kek

>>15733711
didn’t even know there was a first

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76zt-6-fnRg

T-3:45

liftoff

>>15733791
Last spook sat launched on Russian engines.

Uh... did the fairings break when they came off?

>>15733290
>A US Atlas-5 rocket, propelled by Russian-built RD-180 engine, lifts off from Cape Canaveral with a military payload
seething

US Space Force Lt. General Michael Guetlein, commented on the launch: the Silent Barker mission is a joint mission between NRO and USSF designed to deter aggression through letting the United States' "potential adversaries" know that the Space Force is keeping a close watch on what happens in geosynchronous orbit (GEO), days after China launched its Land Exploration-4 01 into geosynchronous orbit

>>15733758
who?

>>15733829
my new wife

>>15733812
These ones aren't designed to be recovered, so separation can be messier than it would be on a Falcon.

>>15733845
>These ones aren't designed to be recovered
lol

realistically in how soon is the launch

Will the ESA ever build their own space station?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSVzS0hSUEA

>>15733921
about 2 weeks, during the last 10 days of the month

>>15733927

>>15733921
this week

>>15733826
This one can only resolve african size penises through 3inch concrete unlike the american ones.
The chinese glowies have to make do

>>15733923
There were a lot of powerpoints back in the day about using a modified ATV either as a single module space station or as components of a larger one. A single-module design wouldn't be that different for ESA original plans for Columbus.

The real issue is that Europe doesn't have a domestic spacecraft to transport crew to a station. Until they get that any station design in just wishful thinking, and they haven't even started planing to make plans for that like that have with a partly reusable launcher.

>>15733932
ship 26 moving to launch site pad b for static fire

>>15733955

>>15733958

DRAIN THE SWAMP

>>15733478
>>15733454
fire suppression test I think from the latest nsf video >>15733927
they also moved the chopsticks around a bit, closing an opening them, probably testing the launch position

>>15733968

I guess this could be related since the US is a leading place for aerospace education but what kind of cope is this lmaoo

>>15733921
earliest is tomorrow
latest is probably the end of the year

most likely this month

Remember when a guy invented a stealth boat for the US Navy, it wasn't incorporated into the fleet but they prevented its sale effectively taking his technology and killing his company. At what point will the DoD consider seizing SpaceX assets?

>>15733979
>At what point will the DoD consider seizing SpaceX assets?
A few days before the DoD is manually dismantled with torches and pitchforks.

>>15733979
haven't seen this much seething in like 3 weeks

>>15733979
Are you talking about Sea Shadow? It was made by Skunk Works, which is still alive.

>>15733337
>>15733339
DOOMER BROS

ITS OVER!! THE CORRECTIVE ACTIONS WERE SPPOSED TO TAKE YEARS!! HOW ARE THEY CHEATING?

>>15734019
DON'T WORRY BRO, HERE'S HOW BIDEN'S FAA CAN STILL STOP FELON HUSK

https://twitter.com/jessica_kirsh/status/1700561756743991585

>woman_taking_photo.jpg

>>15734013
isn't this the plot of a James Bond movie

https://twitter.com/WalterIsaacson/status/1700852897305498004

>>15734084

>>15734025
the Felonious Huskrat WILL be stopped
two weeks

>>15734085
the lord norman foster is probably this dude, a british architect

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Foster,_Baron_Foster_of_Thames_Bank

>>15734085
Austin is SO fucking gay. I hope a mega impactor lithobreaks right into downtown

me on mars

>>15734088
full of california transplants?

I'm really glad that a whole new crop of newfags got to experience the full Zubrin. Spoilers: his intense autism is the joke.

>>15734091

>>15734117
(it's all marijuana)

>>15733979
>146 KB
> Remember when a guy invented a stealth boat for the US Navy, it wasn't incorporated into the fleet but they prevented its sale effectively taking his technology and killing his company
gonna need a source?

>>15734129
Tomorrow Never Dies (1997)

>>15734091
>>15734117
You could build out of Hempcrete on Mars
>>15734013
I had a micro machine of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-4hCRybSfs

>>15734141

>>15734150

>>15734141
>DO THiS --->

hop wen?

https://twitter.com/SpaceBasedFox/status/1700819266688491529

oh no

How bad are the meteor showers on Mars? It's close to the asteroid belt and there is much less atmosphere to burn up any rocks.

Is it a hazard for potential colonies?

>>15734181
it is not going to be visible from his house

>>15734182
Stop. The belters will laugh at us again

Go Atlas, Go Centaur

>>15734182
>Comet Siding Spring passed closer to Mars last month (October 19, 2014) than any known comet has to that planet, or Earth, in recorded history. A fleet of spacecraft orbiting the Red Planet – as well as spacecraft elsewhere in the solar system, and on the ground – observed the event. Among other things, NASA said at a press conference late Friday (November 7) that dust from Comet Siding Spring vaporized high up in the Martian atmosphere, producing what was likely “an impressive meteor shower.” An observer on Mars surface might have seen thousands of shooting stars per hour.
https://earthsky.org/space/spectacular-meteor-shower-on-mars-from-comet-siding-spring/

>>15734185
Depends if there is an anomalous event that briefly increases the surface area of the re-entry vehicle.

Shuttle was such a bad vehicle it's unreal.

It seems likely to me that if Starship is successful, there are likely to be 10 or even 100 times more ships than boosters.

This is because a booster can RTLS much more rapidly than even an LEO starship, let alone starships that travel farther, including presumably 100s to mars.

This will presumably mean that the booster will have to be very overbuilt and reliable, and possibly built with more expensive materials and with less emphasis on mass production over the long run.

ELAN LANCH THE ROGET BASTARD

>>15734222
some of the mass manufacturing methods and materials (perhaps most) carry over from Starships into the boosters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Dc2uNKVeLs

> The bestselling biographer of such inventive personalities as Benjamin Franklin, Albert Einstein and Steve Jobs has written a new book about Elon Musk, the volatile billionaire who has built electric cars, launched rockets, and thrown wrenches into the war between Russia and Ukraine. Walter Isaacson talks with correspondent David Pogue about the ways in which Musk's companies are reshaping history, as well as the celebrity CEO's dramatic personality and his propensity to "go dark." @SpaceX @tesla

>>15734222
I honestly think the margins are such that it doesn't matter.

>>15733337
>>15733339
Has Kirtland acknowledged he was a dumbass?

>>15733452
>So why was he posting that he didn't know what was going on?

There were only 57 actions required, not 63.

>>15733309
Retard nigger they literally just signed off on everything that SpaceX said they had to change, they have been more cooperative than any other agency has been with a company that didnt pay them off. Stop poking the hornets nest because it could be SO much worse, i.e. DOD

Is it possible to aerobrake gradually over multiple passes with reduced thermal loads?

Thinking about a reusable system that could put payloads into a high energy elliptical orbit, close to earth escape and then use aerobraking to return most of the way to LEO.
Would be nice for example to reduce fuel requirements for Kg to mars for example, like imagine a system that can connect to the staging clamps on the bottom of starship.

>>15734247
I thought they did that with some probes already?
multiple passes through some thin atmosphere to slow down
don't know about earths atmosphere

>>15734247
Works in ksp

>>15734247
iirc thats how they saved Akatsuki, helps that Venus is thicc

>>15734230
SpaceX be cooking

Were the FAA the good guys this whole time?

>>15734270

>>15733337
>90+ cameras added to detect leakage during operation
Is there going to be an Xstream for each one?

>>15734271
>regulatory agency moving slightly faster than expected
>“wow they are based!”
Without regulation we would be on Callisto by now

>>15734247
You could probably use starship it's self this way for a lot of payloads.

SEP/NEP probes really struggle getting out of earth's gravity well and waste a ton of deltaV fighting gravity, having them ride on a partly refueled starship to earth escape would probably greatly improve their speed and range for little cost compared to say a centaur for example.

>>15733282
>cgi gets worse and worse each year
average space fan unfazed

>>15734290
That’s what you get when you let cheap Chinese animation studios on the moon

>>15734290
Quit spamming this like you think it'll get serious replies, damn.

once we get off Earth, it's fucking over for the rest of the solar system
evolving on the heaviest rocky body in the whole system is like training weights for the human race

>>15734296
>Earth gets conquered by swole dwarfs from Gainzstation 13

What would an interplanetary fleet battle look like in, say, a low orbit around a planet? Could someone see the fight from the surface?

>>15734299
The spinhabs WILL be kept at 1.2g

>By the way, the team in charge of the mishap investigation (the team that wrote, tracked and communicated action status to the FAA) includes many extremely experienced members of the SpaceX Flight Reliability team. Current VP: Bill Gerstenmaier. Maybe you’ve heard of him.

One day there will be a night launch

>>15734310
Gerst has been dedicated to the moustache for more years than I can count

>Gates argued that batteries would never be able to power large semitrucks and that solar energy would not be a major part of solving the climate problem. “I showed him the numbers,” Gates said. “It’s an area where I clearly knew something that he didn’t.” He also gave Musk a hard time about Mars. “I’m not a Mars person,” Gates later told me. “He’s overboard on Mars. I let him explain his Mars thinking to me, which is kind of bizarre thinking. It’s this crazy thing where maybe there’s a nuclear war on Earth and so the people on Mars are there and they’ll come back down and, you know, be alive after we all kill each other.”

Live in one hour. It's going to be more schizo than it is technical but it's open-question via YT chat so I'm going to try and psyop him into believing ayyys will only make contact if he builds a Starship clone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31tXSujKC3k

Bridenstine turned into a snake. He’s worried SpaceX is becoming a monopoly and thinks America is putting all its eggs in one basket.

>>15734334
gates is also shorting tesla

>>15734336
has he said why he folded bigelow aerospace?

>>15734337
NASA had all its eggs in LockMart/Boeing/NG and if that were still the case today we would still be flying on Soyuz while Starliner eternally collects gulf coast salt and corrodes its valves.
They've also basically placed all their eggs on BE-4 working, and if that engine ends up fucking up the same way BE-3 did for New Shep and has to be grounded for a year+ for an NTSB investigation then NASA can kiss Vulcan-Centaur and New Glenn goodbye for yet another decade, bringing a shit load of future missions down with it
Bridenstine can choke on mountain dew

>>15734344
Really we need a third basket that’s not spacex or oldspace. I nominate rocketlab.

>>15734346
too bad Peter doesn't have the infinite money cheat on

>>15734346
Nah I like rocketlab right now but I think Beck made too many shitty decisions with Neutron. I don't see a bright future ahead of them

>>15734337
>we have put all our eggs in one basket
No. It's just that SpaceX is the only one building a chicken farm while the others are asking the government to give them eggs

>>15734353
lol good way to put it

>>15734337
Doesn't Bridenstine work for Viasat now?

>>15734350
I would say they stay alive by simple being "not SpaceX", but maybe not if there is competition for the second spot

>>15734364
They are perfectly good within their niche. unfortunately that niche could be filled almost perfectly by spacex transporter missions.

>The BE-3 FAA investigation has lasted nearly a year
Why?

New Jeff Greason
Sunbeam: Near-Sun Statites as Beam Platforms for Beam Driven Rockets

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=dPWbdUUTcBA

>>15734377
the FAA is lazy and micromanaging. Imagine having the balls to tell a private fucking company that a joint should be welded instead of riveted.

>>15734364
Yeah, I think a lot of people are quick to take one of two sides: either a) they are never going to get any contracts for neutron and are dead in the water, or b) they will flourish with a "sweet spot" of 8T LEO and get lots of contracts for constellations

Just to be clear, I am down the middle here. I think even with a best-case-scenario Starship they will still get lots of contracts. Starship will likely be expensive for a while, and it won't be operational for commercial partners for probably a long time as it will still be undergoing soft R&D even after factory ships start getting produced. And 8T is a pretty nice spot (although trying to sell it as a "constellation launcher" is retarded). But Beck & Co have really crippled any potential future upgrades with dumbass design choices. If it were made of aluminum or steel it could more easily be upgraded with a larger booster thrown on the bottom. It can't be scaled up using the same carbon composite material without a complete design overhaul. And even if they try to minimize cost as much as possible I don't think it will be able to keep up with Starship or New Glenn, even if Musk and Bezos want to charge a little more. Both rockets will still be cheaper and more capable.

Tl;dr - Rocketlab will survive for a while and get good contracts (at least, I presume) but—it is not sustainable

>>15734389
The joke was that the IFT-1 investigation was closed in less than half the time for many, many, more failed engines

>>15734337
>Bridenstine turned into a snake. He’s worried SpaceX is becoming a monopoly and thinks America is putting all its eggs in one basket.
how does that make sense when the government is giving handouts to lots of launch companies? 90% of them go bankrupt on their own despite getting gibs.

>>15734390
They’re targeting $50-55 million for 8 tons to LEO. Cheaper than F9 now, yes, but not by much so

>>15734336
Wait, Bigelow is still alive? Why did I think he is dead? Wasn't he really into the ayy thing, why is he not on podcasts discussing the recent hearings?

>>15734395
That implies SpaceX can't make it cheaper

>>15734398
I was just quoting RocketLab’s numbers. SpaceX for sure can go cheaper

>>15733975
>talented youths from African countries

>>15734398
congrats you discovered capitalism. free market competition drives down prices.

>>15734377
Incompetent leadership at BO and or shitty engineering practices

>>15734369
what I mean by "not SpaceX" is that some companies will explicitly not want to use SpaceX if they can help it, so the second place doesn't have to compete for everything with SpaceX, they just have to compete with number 3 and 4 etc

>>15734384
this some new meme-drive?

>>15734410
There's a limit to "not SpaceX" people, thats reality of economics. Only those with huge banks and personal issues like Bezos companies would try to boycott SpaceX.

>>15734359
yes which Farrow writing that article failed to mention

>>15734415
you would have the government wanting to keep dissimilar redundancy

>>15734415
Are there any news about the amazon shareholders being mad at bezos for not considering spacex as a launch provider?

>>15734377
this clearly shows FAA's favoritism towards spacex
We need to investigate the FAA

>>15734410
The main reason people didn't want to use SpaceX in the past was due to concerns over reliability in launch windows for missions that can't handle them

I'm thinking specifically about one NASA mission awarded to ULA that Elon filed a protest about because his bid was cheaper

>>15734444
That's not a valid excuse anymore since F9 is launching more frequently and reliably than everything else

>>15734364
Rocket Lab needs to be a lot more than "Not SpaceX" to survive in the long run. There's an awful lot of launch companies trying to fill that niche. There is no such thing as a payload sweet spot, only an affordability target to aim for to capture as many customers as possible, and that calculus is worse than useless the second someone upsets the delicate math with a realized, fully reusable system. People need to be careful not to take the idea of Neutron first stage reuse for granted: it took SpaceX years to actually make it work, and I don't think Rocket Lab is going to have any easier a time with it.

https://youtu.be/qdJ_gJ_kPEI
>On Earth, mass is not a huge constraint for a stationary structure.
>However, we will need to ship there materials from Earth at a huge expense per kilogram, so we want to minimize weight where possible.
>ship at huge expense per kilogram
>only rocket shown in video is SLS
what did he mean by this?

>>15734455
Guy avoids anything SpaceX

>>15734455
even on the most optimistic estimations of starship cost per kg, aluminum is still cheaper than steel and exotic composites are price competitive.
also don't get it into your head that realsoigeneering is pro SLS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0waPJXaZgEg

>>15734461
wym exotic composites are price competitive

>>15734295
t. space enjoyer

>>15734336
They're talking about psychic assaults while on the Moon and how to heal them topkek

>>15734334
>It’s this crazy thing where maybe there’s a nuclear war on Earth and so the people on Mars are there and they’ll come back down and, you know, be alive after we all kill each other.”
Musk really is a gigantic baboon. For somebody claiming to be engineering minded he is blissfully oblivious to how impotent NOOKS are in creating extinction events. /k/ had a whole topic recently where ziggers were trying to bash the nook-ook drums again in their monkey rage. Ended them getting completely clubbered into the ground with anons in know paining a pretty hilarious picture how there is nearly not enough carriers or functional warheads to cause anything resembling an apocalypse. This is if you ignore obvious issues like out of control corruption already eating into the miniscule arsenals of dictatorships like puccia. Even at the height of the 80s the total destructive yield of all nook-ooks combined was piss weak compared to the most recent (and softest) extinction event, the Chicxulub impact 65 million years ago.

Nooks will kill somewhere between 300-500 million (inc famine), level cities here and there and...thats it. Radiation is negligible in the long run

>>15734185
Yes it will be, I compared the area of visibility from Dragon re-entries over Florida, and I’d even be able to see it if it was a Dragon, let alone a vehicle much larger that is likely to break up into many fragments, all with a bright stream of plasma

>>15734458
why? never watched this guy

>>15734342
He just claimed he was shut down directly by the governor (likely alluding to covid?)

>>15734481
severe EDS

>>15734476
>For somebody claiming to be engineering minded he is blissfully oblivious to how impotent NOOKS are in creating extinction events.
Yeah he's not know as the most potent engineer

>>15734473
lmao

>>15734496
He is so based it's unreal

>>15734458

>>15734476
link me to tthat thread I wanna read that shit

>>15733954
I see the rise of small purpose built stations. Why bother with all the pomp and circumstance of the iss and full time manning. When something like this serviced by a not crew dragon every six months.

inb4 le effects on humans research niggas been in space for 40 years if aint discovered now aint gonna be found until on mission anyway.

>>15734337
It seems like you have something against Bridenstine, because you keep reposting this shit all the time. How is he wrong? No one seems to be trying hard enough to become a direct competitor.

lol someone asked about a soultrap asteroid
I wonder if bigelow actually has a coherent worldview about this stuff

>>15734510
plenty of companies are trying, they just aren't achieving stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wrODIrO0R0

NSF livestream in 30min

>>15734412
Relativistic electron beams accelerating probes to 0.2c

>>15733303
>not taking the transhuman challenge and living in Jupiter
bless my ballast sacs

>>15734492
While I agree that most of his military takes are retarded, this post pretty much just outlines NGAD.

>>15733364
Then you should lurk more and maybe try reading the fucking thread occasionally

>>15734476
>/k/ had a whole topic recently where ziggers were trying to bash the nook-ook drums again in their monkey rage. Ended them getting completely clubbered into the ground with anons in know paining a pretty hilarious picture how there is nearly not enough carriers or functional warheads to cause anything resembling an apocalypse.
go back and stay there faggot

>>15734514
Yeah, like I said, they're not trying hard enough.

>>15734181
>hawaii bro is the anti-anime furry
>he's a prolific twitter tranny
awful

>>15734526
https://twitter.com/DarkandWondrous/status/849473923469258752

>>15733464
>gay, retarded opinion
start namefagging so I can filter you automatically

>>15734244
Pretty sure Isaacson's book redeems the DOD so your argument falls flat

>>15734277
I yearn to commit tax evasion on the Jovian frontier

>>15734476
>NOOKS
>nook-ooks
what the fuck is the reddit tier shit?

>>15734530
He said that compressibility drag is lower at mach 1.5 than at 0.95

>>15734545
I doubt that

>>15733551
>They also seem to be enjoying the recent addition of port-a-potties
It's actually a clever scheme to keep Boing employees away

>>15734476
What kind of incomprehensible schizo post is this?

>>15734461
>even on the most optimistic estimations of starship cost per kg, aluminum is still cheaper than steel and exotic composites are price competitive.

lol. lmao.

>>15733721
based

>>15734337
I stand with Big Jim Bridenstine (and agree with him) 100%. You are a redditor who gets mad when you little Elon fantasy crumbles

>>15734476
> Russia destroying every US city over 100k inhabitants and plunging the remainder into Mad Mad conditions is nbd

>>15734560
What are you even talking about? Bridenstine's position is effectively "it's dangerous if there isn't an alternative to SpaceX," which is political speak for "and that's why taxpayers should subsidize a non-competitive alternative."

>>15734549
Yep. Even Gwynne was calling Elon a retard in it for not taking Pentagon money

>>15734476
>Nooks will kill somewhere between 300-500 million (inc famine), level cities here and there and...thats it
Anon that is genuinely disastrous. This would utterly cripple global industry for decades probably. Recovery would be something like a dozen Marshall Plans, and moreso any nuclear war scenario would most likely involve the destruction of major cities in the first world almost exclusively, meaning further crippled European populations and vast swathes of import reliant, low human capital populations swarming whatever's left. Europe and the West generally would be finished as a global power for centuries.

>>15734565
It's dangerous because as soon as Elon dies, it's all fucking over. Launch prices go back up , vultures feast on the corpse of SpaceX, engineers are replaced with bean counters, and bureaucracy reigns supreme.

>>15734566
You misread the sentence.

>>15734566
that was like a year after they had given the initial starlinks and someone in the biden admin leaked the negotiations
how does that redeem the DOD? it took way too fucking long

>>15734570
so they should be hamstrung before that to not be able to do anything then?

>>15733339
This list is so sanitized of details that there's nothing export controlled in it. SpaceX or Musk is free to publish it.

>>15734561
Looking at the state of the russian navy, they couldn't launch an icbm 200 feet, let alone 2,000 miles.

>>15734579
If that's what Big Jim wants, so be it

>>15734476
>has never heard of nuclear winter

>>15734579
They should stage a corporate junta of the US government

>>15734377
>The BE-3 FAA investigation has lasted nearly a year

Investigations are only overseen by the FAA, that is how long it took BO to investigate and resolve the cause of their BE-3 shitting itself.

https://twitter.com/SpaceAbhi/status/1700201198941515881

>It can accelerate to 0.92C with 2.55x time dilation, enough to reach the closest star in 21.4 months subjective time.

https://twitter.com/ToughSf/status/1700832779259285734

fuuuuuuuck

>>15734586
Gb2r

>>15734587

>>15734573
Sorry uh this isn't Star Wars. You think the DOD is Darth Vader and Elon is Han Solo huh? You're so stupid it hurts

>>15734589
YAY! Handwaiving magic, my favorite!!! Just get a bunch of antimatter bro, it's THAT easy!

>>15734589
>900 tons of antihydrogen
hahaha where the fuck you gonna get that?

>>15734589
>21.4 months subjective time.
And for the rest of the universe? How much time do you wind up skipping?

>>15733452
he didnt know what was going on. he asked what the 63 items were on twitter. the faa dm him the deets. he reposted it

>>15733453
Cope

>>15734237
what did he post this time?

>>15734589
>magical amounts of antimatter

Hmm yes.

>>15734599
He asked what the 63 items were because there were only 57 items.

>>15734589
>it can [insert fantasy capability]
K

>>15734605
Cope

>>15734597
billions

>>15734607
NTA. The capability isn't fantasy, the numbers check out. But the generation of that much antimatter is certainly fantasy. Really the generation of anything to get you near 1g constant acceleration is fantasy

>>15734589
> 900 tons of antihydrogen

>>15734546
Ummm, based department line one

I wanted to argue for Zubrin's Phobos elevator but the distances involved are truly gay and retarded

>>15734605
There are 63 items and spacex must complete ALL of them BEFORE launch license. Elon going into the spreadsheet and changing it to say "Future Action" on all the things that arent done yet is not going to make a license come faster. It might slow it down actually

>>15734618
kek

Based Bigelow shitting on handwaiving physicists and astroooonomers

>>15734596
I will manifest it.

>>15734622
>SpaceX must implement all corrective actions that impact public safety

>>15734629
one atom at a time, with giant superconductors consuming the entire energy demand of medium-sized cities? Good luck bro. You would unironically have an easier time getting to orbit with an SSTO tape outgassing drive

>>15734561
buy real gold

>>15734597
only about 5 years

>>15734525
>Electron beams
Isn't this basically a scaled down Macross gun?

>>15734596
find an antimatter star

>>15734642
ok I found one, now how do I get to it without my antimatter drive?

>>15734627
he's pretty good at explaining his stances and beliefs, for as schizo as these topics are. It seems like Bigelow is self-aware of the paranormal being a fringe subject, but he's just interested anyways

>>15734622
>E-Elon edited the spreadsheet!

That is some serious cope.

>>15734631
>made up phrase from out your ass
you do yourself and your argument no favors

>>15734596
Anti-Menards

>>15734589
good luck slowing down

>>15734646
https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/faa-closes-spacex-starship-mishap-investigation
Airlock yourself faggot

>>15734643
the slow way, at first

>>15734645
It's certainly likely he did so. Even if he didnt, it makes no difference to the FAA, bub.

https://twitter.com/ICannot_Enough/status/1700882967470440773

Excerpt from the Isaacson book about Musks childhood, too long to post here (would probably be 10 screenshots or 15 posts)

>>15734652
Errrrhhmm pretty sure they all impact public safety :)
All 63

>>15734656
No offense but I don't really care about Elo's childhood or weird personal life for that matter

>>15734658
same

>>15734476
that is some serious tranny /k/ope

>>15734656
>an audible ad
fuck this guy

>>15734656
> Near the end of the first week, the boys were divided into two groups and told to attack each other. "It was so insane, mind-blowing," Musk recalls. Every few years, one of the kids would die. The counselors would recount such stories as warnings. "Don't be stupid like that dumb f**k who died last year," they would say. "Don't be the weak dumb f**k."

>>15734664
bullying works. case study: elon musk

>>15734476
In the event of nuclear war the 1st and 2nd amendments will be superseded by the emergency powers of the state so /k/ shouldn't get too tumescent over the prospect

>>15734346
If Space X gets too big AND becomes exploitative eventually there will be sufficient incentive for a group of employees to split off and start a credible competitor.

For now Space X is driving costs down dramatically and increasing mass to orbit, which is undeniable evidence that they're not an exploitative monopoly.

>>15734664
>
But those scars were minor compared to the emotional ones inflicted by his father, Errol Musk, an engineer, rogue, and charismatic fantasist who to this day bedevils Elon. After the school fight, Errol sided with the kid who pummeled Elon's face. "The boy had just lost his father to suicide, and Elon had called him stupid," Errol says. "Elon had this tendency to call people stupid. How could I possibly blame that child?"

first time I hear this part

>>15734405
It was true, but we already got him.

>>15734672
the previous version was that he mocked the other kid because his dad committed suicide, but it looks like he called him stupid, and was then pushed down a flight of stairs.

>>15734589
Antimatter is the final boss of hypergolic propellants

>>15734667
Never happened in all of Boeing history. Or Lockheed. Or Northrup. We are in for 70 years of stagnation before an outsider shows up

>>15734476
Nukes won't destroy all Earthers. A redirected asteroid will.

>>15734672
>Elon had called him stupid
pure autism

>>15734679
neither have even a dim chance of genociding humans.

>>15734683
Genociding civilization is all that matters

>>15734542
YES

>>15734686
not possible.

>>15733401
Hello Shioriposter

>>15734681
well that is his fathers side of the story, which Elon and Kimbal deny

>Any thread on any board mentioning Elon Musk

>>15734690
actually it's surprisingly easy. you'll see soon.

>2200 cubic meters of a bigelow mockup
TWO CUBIC KILOMETERS WHAT THE FUCK?!

>>15734584
Let's have them target your house first as a test.

>>15734697
bigelow is surprisingly insane and schizo

>>15734692
I thought anon quoted the book
>>15734672

>>15734697
that's not how cubes work
a cubic kilometer is a billion cubic meters

>>15734698
Sure lmao. Good fuck reaching the central US with rockets that have been stripped of their copper wires because private igor needed to buy booze that weekend.

>Then he flew to Vancouver to meet Grimes. There he stayed up with her until past 5 a.m. playing a new war-and-empire-building game, Elden Ring.

When will Starship fly commercial payloads?

>>15734710
>war and empire building game

>>15734714
When they make a Shipwith working payload doors.

>>15734704
I did, there are more quotes later

> When Elon finally came home from the hospital, his father berated him. "I had to stand for an hour as he yelled at me and called me an idiot and told me that I was just worthless," Elon recalls. Kimbal, who had to watch the tirade, says it was the worst memory of his life. "My father just lost it, went ballistic, as he often did. He had zero compassion."

> Both Elon and Kimbal, who no longer speak to their father, say his claim that Elon provoked the attack is unhinged and that the perpetrator ended up being sent to juvenile prison for it. They say their father is a volatile fabulist, regularly spinning tales that are larded with fantasies, sometimes calculated and at other times delusional. He has a Jekyll-and-Hyde nature, they say. One minute he would be friendly, the next he would launch into an hour or more of unrelenting abuse. He would end every tirade by telling Elon how pathetic he was. Elon would just have to stand there, not allowed to leave. "It was mental torture," Elon says, pausing for a long time and choking up slightly. "He sure knew how to make anything terrible."

https://www.jantakareporter.com/entertainment/heres-why-elon-musks-father-errol-musk-wants-to-donate-his-sperm-to-impregnate-high-class-women/400554/

>>15734665
there are plenty of hard working and smart people, even many with high stress tolerance, but people like musk are rare
maybe the secret sauce is a terrible childhood, most people become wrecks but some get some insane inspiration and a total lack of risk aversion

The real question is whether you can get there with conventional rockets in less time than it takes to make over 9000 tons of antimatter.

>>15734664
Based and Darwin-pilled

>>15734651
Actually addressed. Magsail (?) against the interstellar medium

https://twitter.com/lexfridman/status/1700951257764999237

> Here's my conversation with @WalterIsaacson, author of the new biography on @elonmusk and one of the greatest biographers ever, having written incredible books on Einstein, Steve Jobs, Leonardo da Vinci, Jennifer Doudna, Benjamin Franklin, and many others. Outline of our conversation:
> 0:00 - Introduction
> 3:00 - Difficult childhood
> 20:04 - Jennifer Doudna
> 23:01 - Einstein
> 28:20 - Tesla
> 45:24 - Elon Musk's humor
> 49:34 - Steve Jobs' cruelty
> 52:58 - Twitter
> 1:05:07 - Firing
> 1:07:52 - Hiring
> 1:16:55 - Time management
> 1:24:39 - Groups vs individuals
> 1:28:25 - Mortality
> 1:31:57 - How to write
> 1:52:56 - Love & relationships
> 1:57:50 - Advice for young people

>>15734657
All 63 aren't required for the next flight, you insufferable faggot.

>>15734658
>>15734659
Just read the book before you decide to become a citizen of the Martian Empire/Federation.

>>15734750
I already lost all desire for that after seeing how he handled twitter, zero empathy. Him handling a Mars colony would terrify me

>>15734755
I doubt he is going to airlock people, but incompetents would be sent back to Earth

>>15734761
He hasn't thought any of it through and he will not be going without NASA. And no, he won't establish some huge mega city on Mars

>>15734744
>adds 5 years to your transit

>>15734683
Wrong. Post your address. I will teach you to fear rocks.

>>15734749
Source: Your fat ass

>>15734709
This is what buying a blue and yellow t-shirt does to the human brain.

https://twitter.com/InfographicTony/status/1700836826372792351

> STARSHIP IFT-2: PART 14 of 14. This is the final chapter of my 14-part series, but not the end of the story, #SpaceX just has to fill in the blanks. Hope you enjoyed the series. Tomorrow I'll upload the full series again with any updates that may be needed. Follow me for details.

>>15734755
back to /k/ope, tranny

>>15734775
>Congrats to SpaceX for completing & documented the 57 items required by the FAA for Flight 2 of Starship!

Seethe and dilate my EDS suffering friend.

>>15734779
Musk doesn't give a fuck, this shit isn't reaching hawaii until Q3 2025

>>15734783
he was at starbase yesterday retard

>>15734476
>/k/ had a whole topic recently where
link

>>15734782
Lmfao if you actually believe the words out of that known conman

>>15734788
>>15732138

>>15734788
for the first time in two months

>>15734775
I don't like using words like gayest dumbest gorilla nigger Californian, but here you are.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1700789411279966339

hope that anons keeps posting his articles.

>>15734384
I guess the Plasma Magnet grift was played out.

>>15734807
rarely much news on the weekend in article form

>>15734796
I'm so sad elon missed all the tent demolitions and fondag pours and repours.

Why can't jets be flown in space? I know refueling is a problem but why cant they just do scooping like how US cargo planes refuel?

>>15734819
really kind of weird how much people whine about this, even though musk has had Tesla as a side thing from the start, the boring company after 2016, OpenAI for a few years, Neuralink and now even xAI
but the only thing people whine about is Twitter
really makes you think

>>15734823
Theres no air

>>15734827
then how do rockets in space work? jets have 2 rocket engines so it should function the same no?

>>15734830
These are questions you should ask ChatGPT.

>>15734826
think that twitter is a much bigger waste of time than any of his other companies?
yeah, I do think that

>>15734830
oxidizer

>>15734823
jets use atmospheric oxygen for combustion
you could maybe scoop up oxygen from the atmosphere, but it wouldn't be a jet engine

N

>>15734823
what are they going to refuel from? that's right a rocket. so you have to use a rocket anyway and it's a moot point

>>15734830
they carry both the fuel and oxygen with them

>>15734589
>*1 (one) piece of pea gravel floating in void block your path*
Nothing personal

>>15734720
>a volatile fabulist, regularly spinning tales that are larded with fantasies, sometimes calculated and at other times delusional.
>He has a Jekyll-and-Hyde nature, they say. One minute he would be friendly, the next he would launch into an hour or more of unrelenting abuse
Oh wow sounds like someone we know

>>15734837
but that isn't the question, people are talking about it like he is using much less time at spacex as before and I haven't really seen any indications of this
Tesla has had critical moments too in the past where he has had to dedicate time, did people whine about that? I don't remember seeing it

>>15734596

>>15734859
Oh in that case it's perfectly doable

>>15734826
It's EDS, they cannot acknowledge Elon's success lest they give him credit so unless he is personally swinging a pickaxe to break up concrete it has to be that he is completely uninvolved.

>>15734862
Or just extract it from solar flares

>>15734859
I want to kill fags like this

>>15734859
Only one of those orbits makes sense. Why do people render doughnut-shaped orbits?

>>15734859
>produce handwave #1 with handwave #2

It's so simple when you put it like that.

>>15734815
but you will keep posting them?

>>15734522
online now, actually started like 90min ago lol

>>15734826
It's because I have EDS

>>15734869
wow the guy who suggests building dyson swarms and producing tens of tons of antimatter per minute doesn't understand orbital mechanics

>>15734830
jets don't have rocket engines
>>15734826
Boring company is a mistery

>>15734823
t. smartest contrarian

>>15734853
Yeah Elon really is like that.

>>15734842
I

>>15734869
Those are statites

>>15734853
Demon mode

>>15734346
Rocketlab is already publicly traded, that's a death sentence for meaningful innovation.

>>15734874
I guess, maybe a bit more compact formatting if new ones come out rapidly
such as heading and link only

>>15734853
You don't know Elon, you fucking fabulist.

>>15734868
His only crime is enjoying the taste of poop

>>15734814
>Plasma Magnet grift
Yeah he's a billionaire now with all that magsail money

>>15734889
G

Anime pedo has KDS

How is this going to affect SpaceX?

I have KDS

>>15734911
>pedo