/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15729775
2 weeks edition.

2 weeks

TWO.
MORE.
WEEKS.

How many stackings and de-stackings there going to be before launch?

TWO

>>15729785
Two weeks of that

WEEKS

>>15729775
63 items edition

двe нeдeли

Im so depressed. Why is FAA playing games with the future of humanity

63 CORRECTIVE ACTIONS SPACEX MUST TAKE
63 CORRECTIVE ACTIONS
TAKE ONE DOWN
PASS IT AROUND
62 CORRECTIVE ACTIONS SPACEX MUST TAKE

>Past the outer rim, into the unknown: structures beyond the Kuiper Cliff
>Although the present-day orbital distribution of minor bodies that go around the Sun between the orbit of Neptune and the Kuiper Cliff is well understood, past ~50 au from the Sun, our vision gets blurred as objects become fainter and fainter and their orbital periods span several centuries. Deep imaging using the largest telescopes can overcome the first issue but the problems derived from the second one are better addressed using data analysis techniques. Here, we make use of the heliocentric range and range-rate of the known Kuiper belt objects and their uncertainties to identify structures in orbital parameter space beyond the Kuiper Cliff. The distribution in heliocentric range there closely resembles that of the outer main asteroid belt with a gap at 70 au that may signal the existence of a dynamical analogue of the Jupiter family comets. Outliers in the distribution of mutual nodal distances suggest that a massive perturber is present beyond the heliopause.
https://arxiv.org/abs/2309.03885
MASSIVE PERTURBER

Space Launch System is

>>15729806
A cancer on tax payers, a gravy train for the lazy, and stagnation incarnate

>>15729800
>>15729792
remember when the FAA submitted the FONSI? That was 75 actions, posted June 13, 2022. and it wasnt until 10 months later that SpaceX actually launched. looks like April 2024 is back on the table. No later than July 2024 at least

The model for space colonization isn't Europe and the Americas, its the Polynesians and the Pacific

SpaceX is all ready to go
FAA says:
>no, not until you give the intelligence agencies back their total control of Twitter

>>15729838
if that would actually work, he should do it

>>15729838
>Item 66.
>SpaceX will rescind control of twitter (X) via informing SpaceX CEO Elon Musk of the demand to do so

>>15729829
there is no comparison

>>15729829
They still need an economic reason to stay there though. You can’t just have every planet be a sparsely populated slum

We went from 1200 posts in a thread to dead before 30 posts.

>>15729871
Launched with too little energy, should have used a ULA rocket

>>15729829
What's our uninstrumented navigation trick? The Polynesians used birds, incoming wave direction and the angle of Polaris/Sirius.

why are people losing their shit about a little shitposting? Musk does that all the time

>>15729889
MDS

>>15729888
The key is always autism

>>15729889
We are literally shaking from anticipation for IFT-2 and he says they have no clue what 63 demands they are asking for. Of course we're gonna lose our shit if theres a possibility of another 5 months of waiting

>>15729888
Ask Buzz, while he's still alive
He wrote the book on it

>>15729888

>>15729896
obviously he knows them lol

Why was the last thread twice as big as a regular one?

>>15729906

>>15729906
jannie deleted 4 pages worth of content and banned all the wrongthinkers so it took a long time to reach page 10

>>15729906
it was just such an amazing thread

>>15729903
Charitably: "Give us more money for your jobs program Congress. Inflation isn't going to listen to your freezing the budget for two years."
Cynically: [foaming the runway as the next Augustine Commission appears on the horizon]

>>15729906
right when it was made, a jannie death squad did a cleansing and deleted all the shitty threads on the board, so it took a long time for a new supply of threads to push the sfg off

>>15729911
I literally fucked the link to the thread before that one lmao

>>15729929
Who aligned all of the skulls?

https://twitter.com/IEatHydrazine/status/1700264219810386398

>>15729889
Probably the same ones shitting their pants over SpaceX refusing to turn Starlink on over Russia last year.

>>15729806
ridiculous

>>15729931
poltergeists, nigga

>>15729931
Polar wander, your jaw is heavier than your braincase. This assumes they're rotating

>>15729931
Gravity after a planet made of skulls hit the Roche limit.

>>15729931
the faggot artist who came up with the retarded idea

>>15729931
space ghosts

https://twitter.com/shivon/status/1700221989019857182

>>15729947
that doesn't dynamically account for their alignment

Theres a thread on /tv/ about elon/spacesex
It's the worse thing i've ever seen.

>>15729888
Follow the cool roggs

>>15729958
based

>>15729958
You haven't seen a For All Mankind thread yet

>>15729958
space-related posts on other boards make me cringe to death
>>15729959
He's giving what is probably the coolest lecture in geology ever and all the astronauts are falling asleep kek

>>15729888
Don't forget their testicles

>>15729951
>Elons server infrastructure guy in replies
It's all a big cult isnt it?

>>15729966
Because geology is boring.

>>15729951
who tf is this

>>15729978
One of Elons baby receptacles

>>15729978
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shivon_Zilis

>>15729973
>>15729985
>the cult leader gets to plant his seed within the zealots
I wonder how members there are. All the weird cross company executives definitely belong to it.

>>15729937
twittard cope post. see you all next year

>>15729985
i want to fuck her so bad bros...shame she's a lesbian :(

>>15729974
I guess it's just an autist's subject

>>15729940
>over Russia
over occupied ukraine. The snow apes can wave around whatever piece of paper they like, its still not theirs

>>15729775
bets on how many engine failures this round?

>>15730046
0

>>15730035
>she's a lesbian
for him she isnt

>>15730046
My over/under would be 1.5 turned off pre launch and 1 failure during flight.

https://twitter.com/farzyness/status/1700164726666273134

>>15730063
>swarthy orbiter cuck
no thanks!

>>15730057
.5 of an engine??

>>15729796
If only you knew the truth.

>>15730067
lmao

>>15730069
do you know what an over/under is?

>>15730069
kek

>>15729838

When the (literal) twitter trannies say the way to protect human life is to punish those who want to protect human life.

>>15730104
posting X idiot bait on /sfg/ should be a banable offense

>>15730104
>people with opinions are often batshit and don't really understand the implications of what they're saying

>>15730104
>civilian lives have been lost!
Who are they pretending had died now? Or is this the tranny thing where they'll start screaming genocide the second someone refuses to take part in their gender roleplay?

>>15730043
Autists and climate change deniers.
Pic related.

>>15730104
This isn't because Elon did X or Y, it's because he doesn't support Biden anymore or that he has a feud with the present admin on certain governance decisions. That he doesn't kow tow the party line.

https://twitter.com/lexfridman/status/1700226767007457321

>>15730117
Does he regret his decision to shill for national team or is he basking in that fat paycheck from Bezos

>>15730108
Theres always allowed to be atleast one thread on the board about the quality so you could complain to the new jannies. You could also argue this post is "Extremely low quality or effort" or "Trolling outside of /b/"

>>15730137
I want to be able to have a report reason as "spaceflight content outside of /sfg/".

>>15730104
>trans babe uwu
>sounds like a medium-high pitched male on youtube

lol

>>15730128
musk's face looks thinner, good

>>15730143
that is because it is a man

>>15730145
training + wegowy seems to be working

>>15730119
>he doesn't support Biden anymore or that he has a feud with the present admin on certain governance decisions
It's a lot more than disagreement. With the purchase of twitter and the release of twitter files, his push back on censorship, the twitter spaces with Vivek and Kennedy, the battle with ADL, the criticism for Soros/BlackRock/Vanguard etc. etc. he has actually done a lot more to fight the deep state than Trump ever did. And it seems like he knows what he's doing. Note the timestamp on pic related.

http://www.aphelionorbitals.com/helios
It looks like not everyone got the memo about smallsat launch being a dead market segment. Anyone going to make some bets on just what their "Proprietary nontoxic storable hypergolic propellants" are for their reusable aerospike first stage?

>>15730153
>deep state
All that you just talked about is an openly occurring thing. So fuck off with that conspiratorial bullshit.

>>15730158
>can't be a shitty smallsat launcher if you brand urself as a NanolauncherTM

>>15730153
let trump back on twitter, had a spaces with desantis, vocally criticized covid lockdowns, mocks democrat politicians like warren, aoc and sanders, criticizes the trans agenda, doesn't let UAW in on Tesla,

All these people here dooming and pulling their hair appart because of that shitty FAA tweet , when the reality will be that next week a license will be issued and a launch attempt 1-2 days after .

>>15730161
We're gonna launch cubesats one at a time for $750k and were going to be so super successful at it.

>Enters ur thread
heh...hey there /sfg/ ;)

>>15730186
>*investigates your post and makes recommendations which you promptly ignore*

>>15729985
>turns out she's a poo
So that's how she got to be an executive and why she looks off

>>15729906
jam packed full of bullshit and faggotry
half the replies still left are sperging and counter sperging

>>15730104
>seize starlink!!!...ACK

>>15730186
>FEDERAL AVIATION NOIT∀RSINIWD∀

>>15729944
>that astronaut with a sledgehammer

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1700303300799627412

ITS OVER DOOMER BROS111

>https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1700303119417291011
>Musk on Twitter: In fairness to the FAA, it is rare for them to cause significant delays in launch.
>Overwhelmingly, the responsibility is ours.

>>15729888
I suppose if you are only invested in discovery it's different than needing to find a way back

>>15730256
>I don’t know what these actions items are.
Scamon FRAUDSK doesn't even know!!

How these people think it works?
>Musk decides to extends Starlink into Russia
>This allows guided missiles/drones to strike into Russia
>????
>Musk doesn't get arrested for ITAR violations and/or export controls as soon as the State Department finds out

>>15730267
>private individual has the power to determine the outcome of a war
Elon is Achilles

>>15729843
exactly. there is no comparison when space colonies will require any "civilization," if such a thing can truly exist in space, to synthsize their own atmosphere, soil, and protect themselves from radiation. all of these things automatically exist everywhere humans have ever settled before. no comparison

>>15730267
Yeah we need to think about how no one was acquiring that power except for one person

>>15730267
>posting some normalfag literal who that doesn't have any grasp on military weapon systems but has an opinion on such matters anyways's xeet
should be a banable offense

>>15730256
Well no shit he doesn't know what the items are. He doesn't actually work on the rocket. He just plays with model rockets with his kid at meetings

>>15730104
I don't remember this guy having EDS, and his video on thunderfoot/dragon/shuttle sounded completely sane aside from claiming to be trans. I guess that changed when elon spoke up about gender politics. Now he has retaliatory power fantasies of grandeur and can't tell there's something wrong with himself. Sad to see a potentially good space youtuber taken by this disease

>>15730304
Look at his feed lmao. Its all far left liberal cultural war stuff.

EDS stems from far left ideology

>>15730304
nah he was anti-Elon even in his CSS deboonks vids, just not parroting the nationalize SpaceX meme

>>15730258
can I have a second hint?
the washing machine in 1 and the drill and fan in 2 both do propellantless angular momentum change, but they aren't reactionless

Is it anything that emits light?

>>15730267
I really worry for elon sometimes, and for ourselves if he ever cracks

All he did was provide communication to an invaded country. And a large body of people hate him because he didn't provide starlink for weapons use, while also hating him because as an individual he has so much influence over the war, but if he allowed starlink to be used for weapons, he would have even more influence over the war. It makes no sense.

And the US could just buy military satellites for ukraine so they could do what they want without requiring a private individual to control it. But they criticize that too, because it's not ok when the government buys something from elon either. But they won't make it themselves. So there's literally no way these people will ever be satisfied.

Also reminds me of the thai cave submarine that got out of hand, even though he made serious mistakes. Humanity is teaching him no good deed goes unpunished.

>>15730345
>there's literally no way these people will ever be satisfied
well yeah, they don't think he should be able to build a company that builds things they like because it means he gets rich while they don't. it's nonsensical zero sum thinking where sans Elon things would be precisely the same except SpaceX and the like would be nationalized or workers coops or something.

>>15730345
Marxist thought is the root of the conumdrum.

They dont think he deserve to be rich because marxism says rich = bad. Therefore Musk = rich = bad. Because he's bad, he must not deserve his money. If you dont deserve it, then it must mean he's a fraud. Therefore he just accidentally stumpled upon money through sheer dumb luck. But dumb luck isn't evil therefore he must be uhh semi-competent. If he's competent and he's rich, therefore he must be evil.

I'm serious. Thats how the chain of logic runs in their brain.

>>15730071
what

Shitty threads.
Same guy circlejerking so hard everybody normal just stops posting

Ban collagefag from life

>>15730372
Too vague for anyone to join you in this opinion

>>15730304
It's a mentally ill tranny and you are shocked at their inconsistency?

>>15730345
>Humanity is teaching him no good deed goes unpunished.
Grim news for earthers since he’s the most likely to leave humanity behind.
(Not just in space, but neuralink and AI stuff too)

It’s almost eerily like a comicbook villain origin set up, if you think about it.

>>15730372
Not much in space news today.

>Virgin Galactic completed its third commercial spaceflight on Friday (September 8), flying three of its 100 “founder astronauts” on a suborbital tourism flight from Spaceport America in New Mexico.

>Passengers on the suborbital flight included American Ken Baxter, Adrian Reynard of Great Britain, and Timothy Nash, a British citizen from South Africa.

>>15730256
lmao

>>15730378
Musk isn't leaving humanity behind. He's carrying humanity forward from the shitty identity politics thats infested the E*rthers brains

>>15730379
Waiiiit a sec, I take that back
Actual space news today, and red meat for our spaceplane bros

https://spaceref.com/newspace-and-tech/sierra-space-working-with-nasa-on-crewed-dream-chaser/

>Sierra Space’s CCSC-2 agreement focuses primarily on the development of a crewed Dream Chaser and the Large Integrated Flexible Environment (LIFE) pathfinder module. LIFE will be launched into orbit to test the module’s inflatable technology.

>>15729945
Wouldn't that me Molar wander?

Soooooooo anyone got the real news on L2?

>>15730379
Virgin Galactic's manged roughly one flight per month since April. It'll be interesting to see if they can keep this up.

>>15730391
>DC-200 and Pathfinder Integration Review (2028)
Fuuuck, gonna be a long wait for both crew dreamchaser and operational LIFE hab

>>15730404
Funny how so little news it gets. Suborbital flights were supposed to be the dream just 10 years ago. Now its relegated to a walk of shame for people who refused to even disclose their names

It blows my mind how bad these threads are. How many of you actually work in the space industry? Zero? Hmmm...

>>15729806
Utter madness!

>>15730432
hey fuck you too buddy.

>>15730372
>>15730432
Two starcrossed lovers

>>15730432
its spaceflight general not spaceflight workers general

>>15730442
This is /sci/. I'd expect either experts in the field, or those smart enough to understand the field to post here. But it sounds like Twitter or reddit 99% of the time in these generals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ0rs13m7wA
SFN is live. T-56:00

>A live webcast of this mission will begin on X @SpaceX about five minutes prior to liftoff.
I HATE ITTTTTT
I can't just have the yt video open in a tab and go to it when I hear the music

>>15730447
>FAA licenses F9
>FAA provides support for F9 launches
:)
>FAA ensures Starship is safe for flight
:0

>>15730428
I can see someone who paid six figures twenty years ago not wanting to be turned into an inadvertent livestream star just because they wanted to dip their toes into space for a few minutes.

>>15730446
we used to have some but I think the resident anti-anime fag drove them off with how he'd derail threads if someone posted a reply image like yours lmao

>>15730449
I know right, it was so convenient

>>15730449

>>15730438
it's the same guy. he's also ban evading

>>15730469
It's not, plus I'm not ban evading. The mods on /sci/ are kinder than other boards. They give me warnings for my shitpost.

ssto starship seems to have petered out eh

when are we going to get another daytime falcon launch. feels like its been only night launches for months and Im tired of it

>>15730474
I've touched that exact merlin on the bottom. Got some soot on my finger

>>15729805
Nibiru mission when?

https://twitter.com/clearusui/status/1700087017953276335

clears post blew up

Giga Moon Rocket

>>15730479
I saw it launch in 2017. I missed the landing since I forgot Falcons have RTLS. I was too used to Atlas V's.

>>15730485
fun fact, Japanese internet lingo/language is extremely distinct from regular Japanese and is near impossible to decipher if you've never been on Japanese internet

>>15730474
God I wanna scrub it so bad..

>>15730489
Is this akin to how texting in Japanese is mostly those emoji gif things?

>>15730491
And this one?

>>15730497
S̵̘̬̯̆͜p̸̹͙̹̆͛̏͠a̸̗̞̺͗̈́̌͝ç̵̦̱͖̿͂̈́̔͝ę̷̖͖̜̂̽X̴̭̰̀́̂̉͒͜

>>15730499
It's okay. Here's a clean one.

test

>>15729796
Their boss doesn't like Musk. What's good for the country or humanity is not relevant.

Hey
Basically I'm just not gonna build your falcon heavy extended fairing
I know.... UGH I know ..... I'm sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's just that ULA told me not to is all
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

>>15730432
I'm a volunteer space influncer

>>15730485
Clear is growing fast. Just a few years ago, she was just a small channel.

>>15730511
I thought ULA builds their fairings (in house) in Harlingen, TX? Which happens to be next to Starbase. Is this new news?

>>15730332
photons are a propellant

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1700345337322537111
xtream is live

>>15730485
She will rule the galaxy

>>15730539
Nice, guessing since this is a starlink, it will be the repeat of last time where its fully automated stream control.

>>15730541
>>15730539

launch

>>15730539
>must follow spacex to be notified of streams
Ok that's where I draw the line

>>15730533
photons are a *weak* propellant.
Although with orbital lasers, pushing lightsails kilometers-wide, and a very light payload, the lightsails might get some flybys past (say) Haumea or Eris, and get us some data from them.

Clean and routine launch

>>15730379
>virgin had a launch today
wtf everyone is talking about TWO WEEKS and something actually happened but nobody is talking about it

>>15730517
Nah this was like a 2019 scandal. ULA stepped in and claimed it was “IP infringement” to have them build fairings for SeX or something

>>15730554
shit got boring faster than starlink launches. plus there was no official stream

>>15730554
The passengers didnt want to be known/advertised

>>15730556
>no official stream
why are they like this? is their marketing team kill?

>>15730561
see >>15730560

Clean

>>15730562
you dont have to show the passengers though

>>15730564
actually that rocket is filthy

Is it possible to stream it via VLC or something?

>>15730566
More publicity = more change passengers gets known by more people = more news articles = more people talk

They dont want this to be known. Although we know who the passengers are through proxies.

>>15730541
I really like this actually
I just want mission control audio and not some retards repeating what everything is for the hundredth time
I just worry it gets broken and no one notices.

>https://spacenews.com/eu-and-uk-reach-deal-on-copernicus/
are we going to see EU get access to oneweb instead of building their own leo megaconstellation?

Quit complaining about a suborbital spaceplane not broadcasting its flight lol

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1700345943105638636

>>15730575
It will be illegal in the US as US doesn't allow companies that are owned/controlled/run by foreign nations to compete in the US.

>>15730582
Starshield is being built by SpaceX and will be owned/operated by US Gov

>>15730555
ULA is such a joke. I'm not surprised they did something so underhanded.

>>15730582
>Musk did not enable it, because he thought, probably correctly, that would cause a major war.

>>15730584
oneweb is owned 50/50 by UK and India

>>15730602
Yes, that doesn't change my argument.

>>15730539
at least I don't need a xit account to watch, but this player is so shit
>tiny by default
>no large player
>no theater mode
>no dark mode

>>15730582

>>15730612
its too late. 99% of the population now thinks that elon purposefully cut off starlink so that russia could win a major battle killing thousands of ukrainians.

Reject modernity
Return to Ustream
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nasa-hd-tv

>>15730594
Cringe sycophant

>>15730626
please stop posting this. it was kinda funny the first time.

>>15730620
You are in the wrong crowds then.

>>15730627
Wasnt meant to be funny. Next time I'll tell you to shut your fat gob then. Either way stop posting your ai faggot musk coal here.

>>15730631
just stick to calling people muskrats. that one doesn't get old

>>15730620
>99% of the population

99% of the population has no idea this is even a thing and doesn't care

This general is infested with manchild dedditors who like being called names. Post quality has steeply dropped since IFT-1, its very noticeable and some of you need to fuck off back to where you came from for it to go back up.

>>15730638
No actually I think I'll stick to calling you exactly what you are.

>>15730648
/sfg/ has been like this since 2022

>>15730651
Even worse more recently

>>15729829
Absolutely based

>>15730511
When NASA accidentally tweeted a picture of the extended fairings and had to delete the post.

When are we gonna start mining the moon? I want a good incentive to build a factory there for the free moon sized vacuum chamber

Real and true

>>15730689
>state coercion
>consent

>>15730689
The funny part is Kirtland blocks people who don't have lefty views.

>>15730691
We can’t have an inner party member going off script here, now can we?

>>15730691
>>state coercion
The engineering design process, including system safety, is not state "coercion".

>>15730703

>>15730703
If I go up to you and say you can either sleep with me or I'll rob you at gunpoint, would that be coercive? I suppose you'd say it's part of the romantic process.

>>15730720
damn I can't believe the FAA robed spacex at gunpoint

>>15730703
>>15730712
Kill yourself

>>15730729
If SpaceX failed to comply they'd be fined. If they didn't pay the fine they'd have their property confiscated. If they resisted hard enough eventually the government would send armed men to seize their property for payment. When choosing whether to comply they know that they would be fined and they know that that fine, like all government action, is backed by a monopoly on violence.

>>15730701
What a cunt.

>>15730736
the government doesn't have a monopoly on violence. musk could fight back

>>15730720
The FAA literally, legally, objectively cannot point a gun at you. They require DoJ to review their findings to point a gun at you (the FBI).

>>15730751
Ok, so If I say you can either sleep with me or I'll get my brother to rob you at gunpoint then it's fine?
In any case, the distinction between government departments doesn't matter in this context since they'll back each other in almost all situations, which is why I referred to the government generally rather than the FAA

>>15730750
I want that sweet-ass flintlock. Working replicas work just as well as they did in 1770.

>>15730756
The FAA unlike the DoJ obeys constitutional rights. You can halt the process in court with the FAA. In the DoJ, you cant, as they think they're above the law. With the FAA, you can take them to court beforehand.

>>15730750
What is this

>>15730762
A low quality movie prop.

>>15730762
a replica of a gun from deus ex

>>15730703
>>15730712
Der 'Cord tier memes, YWNBAW you disgusting troons

>>15730760
What are you even talking about? The DoJ is still accountable to the SCOTUS. But this is a complete non-sequitur so I'll just assume you're having a bout of psychosis.

>>15729805
>using data analysis techniques. Here, we make use of the heliocentric range and range-rate of the known Kuiper belt objects and their uncertainties to identify structures in orbital parameter space beyond the Kuiper Cliff.
There's too many assumptions and reading tea leaves here for my taste.
JWST and other new toys coming online should give us good observational data to remark on. we just have to wait a little longer.

>>15730620
you're not here to discuss spaceflight, you're here to shill your political agenda
>>>/pol/

>when you see it

I don't see it

>>15730795
What Gandalf? See what?

>>15730750
Musk should have spent the billions wasted on twatter funding Texas secessionist movements.

>>15730795

>>15730808
Why waste money on something that will probably happen on its own?

>>15730812
you mean like mars colonization?

>>15730812
Accelerate, play coy and turn boca Chica into a spaceflight fiefdom

>>15730492
>>15730489
That sounds awful japanese is such a shit language

Elon should stop sticking his nose where it doesn't belong, no one asked him to give starlink to Ukraine for free.

>>15730432
I was training to work on reactors which I figured might eventually lead to space, but I became brain damaged instead.

>>15730432
You know we can't answer that question right

>>15730835
it's the same as english really, slang is hard to learn

>“We initially gave the Ukrainians free service for humanitarian and defense purposes, such as keeping up their hospitals and banking systems,” she says. “But then they started putting them on fucking drones trying to blow up Russian ships."
>"I’m happy to donate services for ambulances and hospitals and mothers. That’s what companies and people should do. But it’s wrong to pay for military drone strikes.”
Shotwell in the Isaacson piece

>>15730689
Whole thing about Musk not knowing what the corrective actions were felt like a punch in the gut to all the times I've defended his name simply saying that Musk wasn't a retarded salesman and actually knew his companies very well

so who are they https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfykIRkjt3g

>up to 20% starship stretch incoming per Elon on X

>>15730432
>Zero
if thats your estimate then you're as much as admitting that you're not part of the industry. you're also showing off how weak your self awareness is

>>15730871
Id believe it considering HSR just got added. Though I wonder what exactly all that length would go into...

>>15729806
and always will be.

Atlas V launch in 5 hours, 1st one this year

>>15730880
It'd make up for the gigantic header tank at the top

>>15730880
>jew face meme
Keep gay /pol/ memes on /pol/

>>15729838
>>15729842
My tinfoil hat side wants to believe.

>>15730104
This kind of bait is the kind that starts leading it's own life.
Other woke retards will read this and use the argument in later conversations that People died because of actions of musk, without having any actaul proof.
And a couple of years later you have a population of normies who think musk is trying to hide a shitload of People have died because of his Rockets.

>>15730931
The past decade has taught me much of humanity should be stripped of their rights and sent to the cobalt mines.

>>15730916
I saw one in person
I wonder what gives it such a distinctive bass rumble, it's like a fireworks show finale

>>15730931
Memes or no, private spaceflight means Elon owns a fleet of reusable ICBMs

I wonder what people would have thought about that back in the 60s

>>15730937
It means nothing if you don't have the fusions warheads to stick inside them.

>>15730923
How about I keep using it since youre so intent on bitching about it? Such an innocuous thing to nag about when it was literally just a 'thinking' image, lighten the fuck up.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1700389877827649557

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1700393781768417540

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1700401878637367326

>>15730345
The point is not consistency, the point is to bash elpn due to him having different political opinions than him
Whatever happens, they will twist it negatively and I actually mean whatever happens
If musk had not helped or actually extended the coverage to crimea for the attacks, that would have been bad too

>>15730965
>>15730958
>>15730953
extremely low quality, first one is off topic.

>>15730372
You didnt want news posted and now you whine
Shut the fuck up

>>15730391
That happened a few days ago lol

>>15730978
Is this you?
>>15730965
>>15730958
>>15730953
Tell me now anon. Posting links is acceptable as long as there is an accompanying screenshot and a message

>>15730977
Perfectly on topic and has been discussed here before
Kill yourself

>>15730916
SpaceX launches nearly twice a week so far this year

>>15730980
No, that was unacceptable as well
Fuck off

>>15730980
I'm not going to post a single screenshot anymore

Increasingly appealing

>>15730982
in case you hadn't noticed, sci is filled with antifa/shareblue type political activists and musk/spacex triggers them almost as badly as trump does

>>15731001
that is kind of what I have suspected due to the specifics of what triggers them

>>15731001
Me wanting to encourage better post quality even with low effort reposts makes me a shareblue troon, ok yeah makes sense. Fucking retards

>>15731009
yes, you act like a tranny

Be pretty cool if we had jannies who would clean up this gay shit

posting screenshots of tweets/xeets or other articles is a good practice
especially for archival purposes

>>15731020
go back
https://reddit.com/r/space/

>>15731022
> post news and tweets with screenshots
people whine
> post them without screenshots
people whine

>>15731024
>exist
people whine
sometimes you just can't win
truth is, the game was rigged from the start
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hx4gdlfamo

>>15731020
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>>15731022
I agree on the pretenses that screenshots are posted and commentary is provided. This ENHANCES archival purposes in case the xeet(?) is deleted AND increases general post quality.
>>15731024
>singular faggot tourist whines after dropping in for the first time since IFT-1 expecting the same quality
>take it as an opportunity to ruin overall thread quality
Just fucking post whatever is higher quality so we can have good discussions and so that anon can have is archives.

>>15731029
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Elon doing a dogecoin giveaway on X rn

>>15731054
What's stopping pajeet scammers to pretend to be SpaceX on Youtube now? They can now scam the average tech illiterate boomer/normie looking for a stream.

/sfg/ is dead

>>15730712
PAT PAT PATT PATPAT PAAAATTT

>>15730837
the ukrainians did

>>15731072
i dont understand why musk is so insecure about X

>>15729931
tidal locking

>>15731075
kys tranny

I hate X

>>15731183
At first I thought the twitter bullshit was just a waste of time, but now it is actually harming the things I like about SpaceX.
How long before we can at least have 4k there?

>>15731183
I'm learning to love it

>>15731090
Because it's a failure and will never be what he wants it to be.

>>15731193
withhold judgement until the upcoming overhaul. it's gonna blow your fucking socks off
-X

i don't give a fuck it being on X. i just want 4k quality

>>15730141
That's because you're a nigger

>>15731189
When 4K happens it will be only for premium subscribers, I can guarantee you that.

https://x.com/i/spaces/1LyxBqXEoBEJN
In case you missed it, Ria-chan did her first X space covering the recent Starlink launch, exclusive on X :)

>>15730141
that would be very bad for the quality of discussion here if every retard from the site was forced to discuss how space is fake or whatever here
people are absolutely clueless

NASA to spend $11 billion over the next decade on the Habitable Worlds Observatory (HWO) to hunt for alien exoplanets!
Observatory will be launched on SLS Block 2
"Starshade" will be launched on Falcon Heavy

>>15731224
gif

>>15731224
>SLS Block 2

>>15731224
>SLS Block 2
They could save $4 Billion by launching it on Starship

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76zt-6-fnRg

Atlas-5 launch in 25h

https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/
spaceflight now says it should be in a few hours, but it probably got delayed

>A United Launch Alliance Atlas 5 rocket will launch the NROL-107 mission for the National >Reconnaissance Office. The NROL-107 mission will launch a classified payload known as Silentbarker. The mission is a partnership between the NRO and the U.S. Space Force, which have disclosed little information about the payload other than it will focus on satellite threat intelligence and space situational awareness.

https://spacenews.com/virgin-galactic-completes-third-commercial-spaceshiptwo-flight/

> Virgin Galactic completes third commercial SpaceShipTwo flight

> The “Galactic 03” flight was the third commercial mission for Unity, after the Galactic 01 research mission June 29 and the Galactic 02 private astronaut flight Aug. 10. It was also the fourth suborbital flight for Unity in a little more than three months, when including a test flight in late May.

> However, unlike the previous two flights, the company did not disclose the identity of the private astronauts until after Unity landed. Traditionally, both government and private crewed missions, suborbital and orbital, flown from the U.S. have publicly named the full crews before launch, often weeks or months in advance. Virgin Galactic did not explain the secrecy surrounding the crew.

>>15730712
Why didn't he turn around to get the chainsaw

so raptor engines and hydraulic tvc were not the issues during ift1, it was plumbing. yikes.

https://spacenews.com/viasat-researching-more-portable-satcoms-terminals-for-dismounted-soldiers/

> Viasat researching more portable satcoms terminals for dismounted soldiers

> A typical military satellite communications terminal is generally moved in a hard shell with various parts, which Awad said can make the packed system weigh anywhere from 28 to 34 kilograms.
> A modern soldier often carries equipment that’s close to 70% of typical body weight, according to Awad, hampering mission effectiveness and increasing injury risk.
> Awad stressed their research and development efforts are at a very early stage, and it is too soon to put a timeframe on development because they expect it to be a highly iterative and collaborative effort.
> The companies will initially focus on developing terminals connecting to Ka-band satellites in geostationary orbit.

Seems almost pointless compared to just using a LEO constellation for communication with its numerous benefits (need a smaller antenna, it has lower latency and probably higher bandwidth and SpaceX has demonstrated they are resistant against jamming etc attempts)

>>15731241
where did they say this?

>>15731247
https://www.spacex.com/updates/index.html
>During ascent, the vehicle sustained fires from leaking propellant in the aft end of the Super Heavy booster, which eventually severed connection with the vehicle’s primary flight computer. This led to a loss of communications to the majority of booster engines and, ultimately, control of the vehicle. SpaceX has since implemented leak mitigations and improved testing on both engine and booster hardware

>>15731247
https://www.spacex.com/updates/
leaks, fires

https://spacenews.com/new-report-recommends-space-force-change-how-it-buys-commercial-satellite-services/

> New report recommends Space Force change how it buys commercial satellite services

> WASHINGTON — The U.S. Space Force should overhaul its current approach to procuring commercial satellite communications services, the RAND Corp. recommends in a report published Sept. 6.
> RAND argues in the report that existing methods for procuring commercial satcom services inhibit the government from harnessing the full potential of commercial innovations.
> The Space Force, which acquires satellite services for the U.S. armed forces, has set a goal to rely on a “hybrid” network of commercial and military satcom systems so it can take advantage of emerging constellations in low, medium and geostationary orbits. But the way it buys services – under separate contracts with individual providers — does not provide the flexibility needed to create an integrated satcom enterprise, said the report.

The slow contracting with Starlink might not just be due to maliciousness from the biden admin, but perhaps just due to slow moving bureucracy (though the leaks from the biden admin were definitely malicious).

>>15731250
But didn't few raptors stop working right from the beginning?

What happened to the "if Starship doesn't fly by 2023 we will go bankrupt" email Musk sent to all SpaceX employees? Was that just to make them work even harder on shitty pay/working conditions?

>>15731251
>>15731250
so this has nothing do with fast flying debris for instance? I remember Musk or someone else saying debris didn't hit the engines, but what about plumbing?

>>15731245
Would you shut the fuck up nigger
Don't just copy-paste twelve articles in a row as fast as you can

>>15731262
No

>>15731258
yes, he does that from time to time at Tesla
although, sometimes I think it was actually true such as during the initial model 3 ramp

>>15731266
what then?
either I post them or I don't, I'm getting conflicting opinions on this

>>15731224
>"We want to probe the atmospheres of these exoplanets to look for oxygen, methane, water vapor, and other chemicals that could signal the presence of life," NASA’s Exoplanet Exploration Program chief technologist, Nick Siegler, said in a statement. "We aren't going to see little green men but rather spectral signatures of these key chemicals, or what we call biosignatures."

we're spending $11b to detect biosignatures that in nearly all cases will be handwaved away by plausible known abiotic processes, or inventing new abiotic processes that will be explained by non-Earth-like terrestrial properties

So given Elon's tweets yesterday was the whole thing about the FAA working closely with SpaceX a complete lie?

>>15731294

>>15730446
>posts dumb weeb reaction image
>complains about quality of posts
pot & kettle

>>15731294
Elon working closely with SpaceX is a lie, nowadays he seems content with running X

>>15731277
schizo

>>15731309
prove me wrong

>>15731294
https://twitter.com/spaceabhi/status/1700201198941515881
I still trust his take more since he has a reputation to maintain.
Musk is known shitposter and has long since stopped caring about his image.

>>15731294
no. he's just dumb.
what do you think "FAA oversaw SpaceX led investigation" means? thats their own words

>>15730953
extremely petty

>since my platform can now also stream video like it's 2011 im just not gonna let my companies stream anywhere else anymore
fucking hate this childish mentality
GIVE
ME
MY
BITRATE
AND
RESOLUTION

>>15731324
He can't turn off his algorithm. If he could he would fail

>>15731324
streaming video is expensive please understand

>>15731331
I
DONT
CARE
I
WANT
GOOD
VIDEO
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH
should've worked on the livestreaming backend and player for ANOTHER YEAR before going "yeah it's X only"
then it would at best have been a minor inconvenience now it just ruins the experience
>>15731333
then let jewgle eat the costs like before

>>15731273
Let me break it down for you:
News: good
Conversation starters: good
Funny meme about News: ideal
Picture of space hardware: mouth agape pointing at object
Meme about space hardware: monkey in science chair hitting the button that says "based"
Spamming giant walls of text so that anything interesting stops: monkey in his science chair hitting the button that says "cringe"

>>15731273
don't listen to the schizo, just post articles.

>>15731277
The nerds are probably more interested in planetary formation than aliens

>>15731277
based
>>15731309
cringe

>>15731324
>>15731335
Also, this isn't actually going to help Xwitter because the launch stream viewership numbers aren't high compared to the whole thing so this is purely an ego move

>>15731361
This picture is making me itchy

>>15731404
Yeah I'd stay away from carbon fibers

>>15731386
If they actually make a usable video content front end it would be good, as it is its trash.

>>15731224
>can't even launch Artemis II
>want to use Block 2 to launch ten billion telescope

what is NASA smoking?

https://twitter.com/AndrewParsonson/status/1700153589639868438

MAIASpace completed their cryo proof test.

>>15730689
>block of text and lies
Every time

>>15730762
Spy’s best revolver

>>15731224
LUVOIR was a better (cooler) option

>>15731356
news good but news not good
okay retard, I won't posting news then

>>15731489
I get all of my spaceflight news from the Daily Spaceflight General

>>15731509
I don't need to post them, I can just read them personally and not post here
but you aren't making sense
either I post them or I don't, but people seem to whine either way
easier to just not to post them, no matter the formatting (too many pictures, too little pictures, too much text, too little text) someone has a problem with it
you basically want me to post stuff that is only personally interesting to you, but how the fuck would I know that?
retard

>>15731295
I would not be surprised. Certainly they were working closely with FAA and knew what the items were before the announcement.
Besides, Boing would definitely get that kind of treatment.

>>15731266
go back to pol or leftypol or wherever you've been brainwashed, we don't need your pathetic attempts to drag the quality of the threads down
everyone who actually cares about spaceflight appreciates the articles because they are on-topic, informative of current events, and provide good discussion points for the general

>>15731245
>>15731273
>>15731489
>>15731516
it's one faggot from pol who's mad that your on topic posts are undermining his derail attempts; just ignore him and keep posting relevant stuff. it's not a coincidence that the last thread went to utter shit when the article spam stopped. I can't even imagine what sort of mentality would drive that anon to not want you posting like that, other than disingenuous bad-faith and a vested interest in damaging /sfg/.

>>15731294
Elon's tweet was just bait.
Looks like it worked.

>>15731531
>just pretending to be retarded

>>15731324
>>15731335

>>15731525
I could stop posting longer excerpts if that makes it too spammy and try to be even more selective, some of the space policy articles about contracts can be a bit boring at times I guess

>>15731266
no good deed goes unpunished

>chinks test a FOBS with hypersonic vehicle on top
Haven't they learned about the Soviet experience? These things can only carry shitty payloads, and even more shit if you add an hypersonic glide vehicle.
Besides every major player has space radars, who are they planning to bomb? African shitholes?

>>15731535
rename image to 4k_on_X.png

>>15731532
Works every time

>>15731537
maybe do them all across one or two posts with headlines, summaries and links instead of the entire first paragraphs, instead of a post for each

>>15731575
no screenshots?

>>15731575
drip-feed it, you're currently the main anchor for keeping /sfg/ from falling apart now that we're in the perpetual 2 weeks till IFT-2 drought

the best option would be your current post style but spaced more evenly, though that would require you to spend more time on it. maybe there's a script somewhere to automatically post with a certain frequency?

Alright unironically though was Elon's tweet bait or mental retardation?

>>15730432
Earth is in space so technically all industries are space industries

>>15731586
probably a combination of bait but also poking at FAA for some reason, which would be weird if SpaceX has actually been working closely with the FAA
perhaps some of the corrective actions seem ridiculous to Musk?
the book report about the historical battle in the area comes to mind

>>15731586
Its a joke for insiders cause they already know. For the people who arent aware of anything, they think Musk is a fraud and this "proves" it

LMAO

>>15731592
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1700303300799627412

committed to the bit then

>>15731489
It's one goreposting schizophrenic retard telling you to stop

>>15731586
There’s no way in hell spacex doesn’t already know. maybe elon’s not involved enough to know. maybe he does know but there was no reason for him to go through the whole list so he just got a rundown

>>15731597
He's annoyed by the entire pointless rigmarole

>>15731592
No, but this proves Musk is a fraud.

SHAME AMERICA
GRAIN SILO NOT FRYING
YOU SO STUPID STUPID

>>15731598
This, don't bow to toothless terrorists.

>>15731604
I don't care if he's a fraud if it puts a man (male) on mars by 2040

>Spend a shit load of time learning to land the LM for Apollo 18
>Gets cancelled
I would be so fucking salty

>>15731621
Lovell married his high school sweetheart and they remained together until she died of natural causes two weeks ago :(
When asked if he would ever fly again during a press conference following Apollo 13, his wife gave him a thumbs down from the crowd hahah. He was the only astronaut to visit the Moon twice and never land

>>15731638
>Lovell married his high school sweetheart and they remained together until she died of natural causes two weeks ago
F, I'm envious of the life they had

>>15731072
Nothings stopping them Ive been recommended 5 streams of them like their current missions but are months old ones, guarantee you they have some scam giveaway link in the chat.
>>15731075
Der 'Cord tranny YWNBAW
>>15731054
Scam
>>15731266
Kill yourself we need things to discuss leave him alone if hes posting good things
>>15731273
Dont mind that retard
>>15731386
Yeah, sucks balls but what can you do hes very firm in keeping it that way.
>>15731537
Dont worry about selectivity as long as its fully on topic and not just dropping a link with no explanation or screenshot.
>>15731597
Well FUCK. TWO MORE WEEKS, the 9/11 dream is dead.

Elon is not interested in FAA regulatory side of things, as we know from IFT1 where employees briefed him on what they had to go through and he was dumbfounded by how retarded the whole Final PEA process was. he is not curious

>>15731662
>we know
ok, schizo

Well, they didnt destack S25 and B9, so I'm guessing all the work theyre doing around the LC and BS are what the demands were, thats if they even know them... fucking hell Elon should really try not to bullshit with something like this.

>>15731666

>>15731672
You're not a royalty.

>>15731675
you know, the editorial

>>15731676

>>15731581
I'm going to agree with this anon. Making it a sudden dump triggers some of our /sci/zos. Waiting 15-30 minutes between each article would be better.

>>15731687
>Waiting 15-30 minutes between each article would be better.
That gives the thread time to discuss and digest some news, I like that.

>>15731692
during euro hours there is nothing happening for hours and hours sometimes, so that wouldn't help

anyone got the image of big booba starship

>>15731705
no
but i do have this

Is Nelson right?

>>15731706
this will have to do

the whole moving the streaming to X only mere weeks after they get ancient experimental code for livestreaming working on X and stubbornly refusing to stream anywhere else on musk's orders really rubs me the wrong way

>>15731708
>NASCA
He is saying they are a UFO/UAP agency which is wild

>>15731708
nasa is a "keeping missile manufacturers from going out of business" agency

>>15731712
elon has a bone to pick with larry page

>>15731716
meant for >>15731711

>>15731714
>self inserting
>zubrinfag
COOOAAAALLL

>>15731213
>login required
Fuck Twitter not even youtube is this gay