/sci/ - Science & Math

with the water pressure and food availability i would think the life down there will have to be very small to sustain itself

more surface area = more pressure on the organism.
so basically, fuck if i know, but itd be a strong ass motherfucker.

>>1571465
food availability? the fuck you think happens to the crumbs that fall out of other fishes mouths?

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>>1571467
you're forgeting about jelly fish and octopusses

since their body has more water then normal they an witstand better the extreme pressure, so they can be biggger

ofcourse it is. why else would gigantic whales dive so deep? because they're bored? lol. they go down there for food.

exploring the ocean is like exploring the himalaya at night with nothing more but a mere flashlight.

>>1571465
JESUS CHRIST IS THAT THE CALL OF CTHULHU

basically the water pressure down there would be around ~1100 atm.

as we know that <span class="math">p = \frac{F}{A}[/spoiler], it would have to be a very big creature, with a very great surface area in order to maintain itself and not implode due to pressure.

so yeah, it's possible, why not?

>>1571557
Fuck yeah I'd explore the himilaya at night just a flashlight for light if I had one or two people with me, assuming i could get summplies on short notice, and a shotgun or some shit for protection.

fuck yeah this thread is now about epic exploration missions you'd do

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep-sea_gigantism

>>1571616
Jesus fucking christ, dat giant isopod. If I saw one on the floor I would scream like a girl.

>>1571642
don't be such a faggot.

i'd ride it.

Bitches don't know about the Bloop.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bloop

Read. Shit bricks.

>>1571680

Fuck. Now I want to know what is that shit.

>>1571680

The noise, 16x slower, noise reduction applied.

http://www.bloopwatch.org/bloop_realtime_nr.wav

>>1571685
Welcome aboard.

Also,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_%28unidentified_sound%29

And check them audios on JewTube.

>People have pointed out that the location of the sound originated within 500 miles from the location of R'lyeh in the South Pacific, thus coincidentally linking the sound to the sleeping, Great Old One Cthulhu in the fiction of H.P. Lovecraft.[10][11]

>>1571719
>While the audio profile of the bloop does resemble that of a living creature, the source is a mystery both because it is different from known sounds and because it was far too loud: it was several times louder than the loudest known biological sound

>Dr. Christopher Fox of the NOAA speculated that the Bloop may be ice calving in Antarctica.[7] A year later Dr. Fox was paraphrased speculating it was likely animal in origin.[8]

>>1571730
Oh god the angles

X wants to know what the Loch Ness Monster is.
* Serpent. 40 feet long average. There are 51 in the lake. They live in underwater cavern system and are leftovers from pre-cataclysmic times.
Are there any huge monsters at the bottom of the ocean?
* Giant squid about 1000 feet long. There are about 20,000 of them more or less.

captcha: covathes Information

>>1571781
Bah. Someday our tech will be so epic, we'll just go down there and explore the shit. We'll bring epic over 9000 lumen LED lights and shit too fuck year.

>>1571792
Also, I just looked this up. This is what ROUGHLY NINE THOUSAND lumans looks like apparently http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=267667

Life in the ocean makes up 99% of the total life on earth and we know literally know nothing about it. Life on the surface is, in reality, the abnomral part of life. The majority of life happens deep down at temperatures of 1°C and high pressures. There might be shit down there we can't even imagine. Maybe the 2nd most intelligent things live deep down.

>>1571714
That is horrifying.

>>1571813
lol'd at the last remark.
hypothetically possible - they can't engineer a way to come up to the surface without FUCKING DYING, we can't engineer a way to get down there without implodan

>>1571802
9000 lumens are not that much, really. A sulfur lamp can reach 100k lumens easily.

>>1571792
WTF is a Lumen?
Use a real world measurement, like candlepower.

>>1571840
welcome to the 21st century

Marine biology, MY ONE SPECIALITY!

OK, so, let's go down to the lower layers. There are a few of them-

Haystack zone: Life is scarce, but interesting. A bunch of neat sea anemones and sea urchins, mainly, but occasionally you'll come across a cool-arse shark, octopus, or weird worm-fish things (I can go into specifics if you want).

Go any deeper, and things get weird.

Abyssal zone: A bullshit term for wankers who don't know shit- it covers the twilight zone, the dark zone and lower zones (like the haystack zone).

Hadal Zone: Covers the haystack zone, but also goes deeper- notable because it reaches the chimneys and the brine shores, which are mother-fucking awesome. However, life down HERE is tiny. Sea worm tiny, crab tiny. Whilst home to a fascinating ecosystem, everything is very small.

So, to answer your question, big, awesome motherfuckers would exist in the twilight zone, dark zone if they were manly.

For reference, that's between 2000 and 3280 feet. Sorry, guys.

>>1571839
Good for you?
I just googled 9000 lumens because of the meme and because I didn't know how bright it was lol.

>>1571840
>doesn't know lumen is an SI unit
>lol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lumen_%28unit%29

>>1571844
The 1980s were better.

>>1571476

The horrific pelagic depths harbour Cthulhu!!

>>1571813
why dont we just drop nukes in the oceans to vaporise the water, then we can walk around and explore freely?

>>1571850
Let's perfect liquid breathing mediums and go down there and explore! :D

>candlepower

>>1571859
Its already been perfected... it doesn't get much better. But its a terrible pollutant. I mean like 50000 times worse that the worst thing most ppl can think of.

>>1571877
The solution to pollution is dilution.
And theres plenty of water in the abyssal plain that no one cares about.

>>1571885
>that no one cares about
fukken lold
think of all the literal bottom feeders man ._.

would it work?

>>1571894
Are there any people down there to complain?
No.
When the tubeworms save up enough money to higher lobbyists, thats when we'll start paying attention.

>>1571910
in your kiddy pool, maybe

>>1571910

Look at OP's picture.

Consider the price and difficulty of building the Empire State Building.

Look at OP's picture again.

Imagine the cost of building your idea without any chance of critical failure.

So, do you have $999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999+ spare?

>>1571927
>implying building a massive plastic pipe would cost much. they have pipes to take gas across continets, so why not? it would only need to be 12 km long and maybe 2km diameter.

>>1571949

>Implying that would have even a chance of fucking working.

>>1571910
oh yeah i can see this happenin' easy

>>1571910

Probably cause a tsunami in N. America so fine by me.

>>1571949

It's... a lot further than across continents. That, plus getting the water out of the way and INCREDIBLE PRESSURE.

>>1571977
no, 36,000 feet is about 12 km. They have pipes taking gas from siberia into your kitchen.

All this negativity and can't do attitude is why we know so little about the oceans. It's historys fault though, all the best scientists concentrated on land and space, only the derps devoted their careers to the oceans.

But how about 12 km long fibre optic cables with LEDs on the end, analogous to a super long endoscope, surely it would be relatively simple to attach thousands of these to ocean liners, with cameras recording ewhat was seen. We could map out the oceans and look for cool shit.

Why not

>>1572074

That seems perfectly reasonable, though there would have be more advanced mechanisms on it so the deep currents would sway it miles off course. A plastic pipe is a fucktard idea.

>>1571910

Someone's been reading The Drowned World by J.G. Ballard.

>>1572086
It isn't actually. You can poke a drinking straw to the bottom of a bathtub, or a piece of hosepipe to the bottom of a pond, or a larger gas mains type pipe to the bottom of a lake, so why not have a fucking huge pipe, made out of that industrial plastic stuff (I don't know if you've ever seen a gas main, but the plastic is incredibly tough and dense.) and put it to the bottom of the ocean, then use some sort o huge microwave gun or somethig to evaporate all the water. I guess there would be a lot of salt and dead fish though. 36,000 feet is a big distance but it is conceivable, it's not like we're dealing with light years.

>>1571460
At thermal vents we have found 10 foot long worm/leeches down there.

All it need to do is be able to generate a massive internal pressure and it could survive it.

how could displacement be used to splash some of that water out? If there was anything creepy coming up with the displaced water it would die quickly because of the rapid pressure change. Also, I know this idea is totally ridiculous and impractical, but entertain the thought: how fucking huge would shit have to be to displace enough water that we could lower the pressure of the remaining water and explore?

>>1571911
I love where your head is at.
two thumbs up

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>>1571714
Oh my fucking god.

bump

Life originated from the deep sea and eventually crawled out of the ocean to live on the land.

I would absolutely not be surprised if the deep sea is pumping out a shit load of new species.

If science has taught us anything, it is that organisms can survive in the most brutal conditions imaginable.

maybe the infamous blue waffle monster lives 'down there'

>>1572098

How's about the fact it would get pushed over by an ocean's worth of swaying before you could finish building it.

DO NOT 404

lolno

>>1571467
There's a pressure equilibrium in any organism. That's why 15psi doesn't destroy you. It doesn't matter what the pressure is, as long as it's the same inside the cells and outside.

>>1573195
This is /sci/, it will stay alive for 3 days without anyone bumping it.

>>1572277

fuck you