/sci/ - Science & Math

I still don't know whether that's a tranny or just a more masculine than usual german womane

I found out capitalism was developed to be anti nationalist be a bunch of merchants

>>15713948
then a century later communism was developed to be anti monarchist, antinationalist, anticapitalist and pro banker

Dumb whore lost all credibility on lk99. Dumb german whore worthless even as a whore

>>15713977
>lk99
but she was right it was nothing burger

>>15713945
>capitalism good
(((Hossenfelder)))

>>15713981
>implying it's over
here's how LK99 can still win

I like Sabine's fat little hands.

>>15713955
>communism
>antinationalist
What's more nationalist than nationalizing utilities and resources?

>>15714355
Not striving for a global commie utopia.

>>15713945
where is the link you dipshit OP?

>>15714370
>global commie utopia.
always been a dream. none of you can explain WHY should YOU live in a utopia, when you are not needed anymore?
some of you somehow imagine they just get to do shit, just because they exist. you exist for as long as you are needed you idiots.
your commie utopia is just like fucking heaven, it can't fucking exist but you will cling to the idea.

>>15714386
The absolute state of your negrotic prefrontal cortex...

>>15714389
you need to execute whatever you are told to. you have no fucking agency you fucking slave.

>>15714355
Actually distributing them to the people.

>>15714531
yeah but why tho? that will make them less productive, statistically speaking.
when people have enough everything move slower. maintaining an artificial need makes for the whole thing to go faster. at group level it makes sense.
fundamentally that isn't needed, as long as you do the needed work. but you don't want to. you'd rather not. so then artificial status needs to be enforced so you do what's needed.
it always comes down to this, if train stops we can even wipe, but problem is it surely sends us back from certain points of view.
if you'd all do the work out of your own volition you could all be rich. but since you won't, we need this system.
the commie utopia is exactly that, we all get to use machines/robots that do the needed work, so we can all be rich BUT not have to work.

>>15714556
Withholding resources makes the communist government no different than a capitalist government.

>>15714563
>Withholding resources
there is no choice. if they don't they wipe.
I'm trying to explain that even if we have enough to make all humans millionaires, as it were, we can't do that shit, now at least. if we do that, we risk wiping out.
the "there's enough for everybody" meme is retarded and childish. there's enough but only for a while, then we wipe.

>>15714355
communism is literally globalist

>>15714572
So you're a communist who's not a communist?

>>15713945
Is this funded from the same Bill Gates sources as Kurzgesagt and Veritasium

>>15714633
Stop recognizing patterns. You're not supposed to utilize your IQ like that.

>>15713945
>here's why war is a good idea to make profit and why it's good when big pharma makes profit from making us sick
>all proven by superdeterministic science 'n' shieeet

>>15714632
I do not adhere to dogma anon. that is always at odds with truth but fits just fine with group politics.

>>15714386
>utopia
>kill everyone the party deems as "not needed anymore"
You're a legit psychopath, aren't you anon?

>>15714572
>Withholding resources if they don't they wipe
If that doesn't work, try spanking.

>shill advertising for commercialized youtube content

>>15714386
>always been a dream. none of you can explain WHY should YOU live in a utopia, when you are not needed anymore?
some of you somehow imagine they just get to do shit, just because they exist. you exist for as long as you are needed you idiots.
your commie utopia is just like fucking heaven, it can't fucking exist but you will cling to the idea.

If there's nobody to exploit, then there is no utopia. It's that simple really. Its not feasible today, much less when it was first suggested.

>>15714657
anon it's either the whip either the carrot. this is as much free will as you'll ever get at this point.
people seem to prefer the carrot.

Capitalism is great.

>>15713945
>muh capitalism
>muh communism
>muh fascism
>muh feudalism
>muh socialism
>muh democracy
>muh autocracy
all trash. every last retarded one.

I heckin love capitalism.

>you get 50 million $ but you must pick up the trash 5 days a week for the rest of your life. if you skip a single day without serious explanation you are executed without any way of stopping it.
do you agree anon? you have all that money but you will die if you skip a single workday.

>>15714673
Why are you showing the consequences of Obama's and Biden's socialism?

>>15714678
Based '(t)ism rejector.

>>15713945
Why can't STEMfags resist talking about things outside their expertise?

>>15714681
You know what shares are, right?

>>15714681
That is the dumbest most misleading meme I have seen all week

>>15714698
>>15714701
>t. blackrock bots

>>15714681
You can also do this

>>15714681
All of them push for woke trash so they are traitor communists that must be proscribed. Either all that trash gets eradicated or there will be no future.

>Let me explain.
i hate this phrase

>>15713945
Scientifically speaking, how large is the population of bats and cave spiders inhabiting her geriatric womanhood?

>>15714355
>It has national in the name; therefore, it is nationalist
>t. drooling retard

>>15714673
If the government is controlling the economy and picking the winners and losers, it isn't free market capitalism. It's central planning, which is indistinguishable from every iteration of socialism.

>>15714645
What system are you proposing then?

>>15714681
>owned by
Are you retarded? That's not how any of that works.

>>15714626
You people are literally retarded. Capitalism literally works through global free trade.

>>15713947
thats literally just an old woman. your brain is raped and melted. get offline immediately, for your own sake.

>>15715249
you're literally a robot. i'll unplug you and piss on your motherboard.

>>15713945

Shes a materalist therefore a brainlet.

>>15715276
Right, the toughest people on the planet are the troglodyte incels writing fanfic on anonymous message boards. I am quaking in my bootsies. You have to go back.

>>15714397
>you have no fucking agency you fucking slave.
i like it.

>>15715249
>>15714698
the big 3 are the top investors and have the largest sway over corporations. they pretty much control them and in unison.
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/business-and-politics/article/hidden-power-of-the-big-three-passive-index-funds-reconcentration-of-corporate-ownership-and-new-financial-risk/30AD689509AAD62F5B677E916C28C4B6

>>15713564

>>15715282
i actually can't tell if this is a bot post or a person making a fake bot-looking post to troll me. that's crazy.

>>15715430
>bot bot bot bot bot bot
Good one, sneaker.

>>15714355
Nationalism is a leftist creation during their crappy revolutions 200 years ago. the problem with nationalism is that is another inorganic creation by atheists to replace monarchies with nations. nations existed before atheists took power, but nations as a basis for a political system is a leftist invention only to subvert the previous system. Like anything made up by leftists, it turned to shit quickly and leftists killed each other over this lol. Nationalism is so devoid of any substance that you have right wing atheists defending nationalism, just like you have left wing atheists defending it lol, and this since the first day of the revolutions. LOL.

Here is the cope of the nationalists: people who said nationalism existed said it was the language who unified people. The truth is that languages were so numerous that basically only a tiny group of people spoke the same language. The paucity of languages nowadays stem from the revolutionists who killed people who didnt want to speak the unified language. During monarchies, there was a humongous quantity of languages and the kings didnt give a shit about unifying people thru languages. and they were proud to speak differently form the peasants, whereas they lived in the same tiny area.
After being BTFO, they move on to saying nationalism existed due to folklore. folklore is by definition very local. folklore at the north of a ''nation'' is completely different than the one at the south, same with counties, boroughs whatever.
Then they seethe and their last cope is ethnicity which is a very vague idea. If there were mass migrations, then ethnicity is meaningless and if people didnt migrate a lot, then ethnicity just means ''my tiny shitty village'' which has nothing to do with nationalism.

Don't forget it's the french leftists who created nationalism. And, just like today, the only way they did it is by killing anybody who shitted on their dogmas, ie being pro democratic republics, ie pro mercantilism

>>15715481
Imagine euros unironically believe this ..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_right_of_kings

>>15715481
This is an extremely high IQ reply for this board. All of the replies will inevitably continue on with judeo-lobotomized talking points.

>>15713945
>/sci/ queen railed up all r*dditors with her new vid
Is this true? I tried looking her up to see the seething and couldn't find anything.

>>15715254
capitalism is a decentralized ideology. Communism is a centralized ideology.
In planning, living, and governance.

>>15714681
the thing you dont like about this is its resemblance to communism, ie centralization of resources. This isnt capitalism, this is a monopoly ie communism

>>15714705
>you can also have more money than the Fed and more power than the government
>just work harder, lol

>>15714686
Presidents and parliaments are sock puppets. Your country is governed by Blackrock, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Lockheed Martin, Pfizer and Exxon.

>>15715563
>billionaires, big banks and big corporations aren't le real capitalism
>le real capitalism has a powerful government regulating the markets and prohibiting the accumulation of wealth ...

>>15715563
Nigger capitalism always tends towards monopoly or oligarchy. In a society where power begets power, you obviously end up with people monopolizing power and influence.
This is what happens under the conditions of free markets. Someone will come out on top crushing the competition.

>>15715553
look at this thread, plenty of redditors here

>>15715592
your country kneels to my country.

>>15715892
but I am from Isreal

>>15714355
blud learned communism from sparknotes
what is internationalism young lad?!

I won't click the video but the title, wtf, is this old hag starting a redemption ark??? And what would Lubos think about it???

>>15713955
Oh so Reagan instated communism in murica and it was never gotten rid of. At last /pol/ makes sense now

>>15715934
Keklmao what an absolute BTFO Jesus christ

>>15716156
You are still falling for the -isms. In democracy, there is no left and right. The dichotomy capitalism-anticapitalism, or leftwing-rightwing is inherently atheist, humanistic, hence nihilist (ie meaning nothing substantial), ie purely symbolic, ie purely for public appearance, since it is what the judeo christian bourgeois created in the Parliament of their republics. They put the monarchists on the right & the secular humanists on the left. Left & right refer to where people seat. And Atheism is itself a religion leading to destruction, massacre and anti-tolerance, as their 100 millions of dead thru various atheist revolutions and their two [2] fucking world wars prove.

you see thus that being right wing in a the republic just means monarchist, but now that the humanists killed any political power of the theists, the right is still socialist but dubbed ''right'' & the left is still socialism but dubbed ''left''.

There is no difference between left & right in a democratic republic.The only difference is the fake symbols tied to each group.
The underlying basis does not change. The underlying basis of the republic is the constitution about the Human rights. These rights are the jewel of the judeo Christians turned atheist, ie the bourgeois class.

Now the subtle point is that the ruling leftist & rightist classes are okay with that. All what matters for the ex-judeo christian bourgeois is that the theists do not take power again. & this happens exactly by giving the illusion to the midwits like you that left & right are separate doctrinally.
So the plebs can vote one time for the left, then they see that the bourgeois ruling class does XYZ, then the plebs whine that the ruling class is not doing what they promised during the electoral campaign, then the next election the plebs swing to the rightists, which is exactly the same people doing the same thing XYZ and not delivering on their promises.

>>15716167

Thus there is no ''capitalism'' or anticapitalism.
What there is the Humanist Republic, the dogma of their Human Rights .This is what capitalism is in its entirety.

Second capitalism cannot be destroyed without destroying the republic & its dogmas. This is what leftists hate to hear.

Third capitalism cannot be destroyed because by the dogma of the Human Rights, any doctrine is turned into a bulk of opinions, which are always turned into entertainment by being ridiculed and shat on in their media if the humanists see it as anti Human rights. The doctrines which manage to resist this barrier are then commodified (like t-shirts) & capitalism remains unaltered.

The most important thing for the bourgeois is that the plebs really believes that the ruling class will stop the evil mercantilist bourgeoisie after any election, which is done by making the plebs believe that there is a ''left'' and a ''right''.
This is why btw all the mottos & slogans in the humanist elections are always about ''''''''''''change'''''''''.


This is part of the fantasy of the humanist of the '''''''''perpetual revolution''''. Those people live on their fantasy of doing revolution over & over, fighting the cops in the streets as part of the atheist ritualistic baptism, because killing theist Christians is the only thing they did in their entire history & they only lived for this, but now that christians are impotent, atheists turn inwards and start eating each other alive.
the atheists have nothing left to do & get bored, so they try to find new topics to ''''''revolutionize'''', & they embrace NARCISSISM, ie they revolutionize the republic, peak Marxism here, which is made from the revolution on the christian society, & they just end up saying on FB that their own atheist civil servants like the cops are evil.

>>15713945
She's right. Economics good.

>>15713945
OH MY GOD IDENTICAL THREAD IT EVEN HAS THE SAME EXACT IMAGE
EVERY BOARD IS THE SOCIAL MEDIA DRAMA BOARD ILL KILL EM ALL

>>15715249
Jesus motherfucking christ, can you not construct an argument? Yeah sure you can disprove the literal claim the other anon made -- a job an ape or a Redditor can do with a keyboard.
But again, can you argue? Can you convince? Because you providing data showing that BlackRock owns 7% of a dystopian *megacorp*, which comes in response to a graph parading a shitton of other BR companies, is extremely potent.

>>15715249
You have a kiddie tier understand of "owned by". Any argument you can base on it will inherently be a fact-check kind of "refutation".

>>15716442
How does someone disprove a claim without making an argument? By the very mechanical action of presenting opposition, an argument is made implicitly. I am sorry your brain doesn't have the necessary tools to pierce the veil of nuance.

>>15716535
Your claim was not an argument, because it merely rejected a premise, but did not operate on the overall discussion that has been taking place.
Imagine the following exchange: Someone observes
>the murder rate in the city is sky high: it's 18%. 18% of the inhabitants of the city were killed last year.
You contradict this statement with
>Actually, you are grossly mistaken. The murder rate is only 6%.
Do you see how you succeed at one level of the discussion, but fail at the more important overarching one?

I used to wonder how science could become politicized.
Then I saw all these "trust the experts" laymen on the left who are all on board with scientific consensus when it comes to climate change. But then a female scientist comes along to challenge the consensus and all of a sudden the same laymen who believed in consensus suddenly choose to worship her instead because the narrative became one of oppression (lone woman going against patriarchal white male STEMlords).

Now it's reversing yet again.

>>15715553
Yeah look at this thread. It's actually really funny. I love riling up humanities autists with their fake fields.

Literally just say whatever with confidence and they sperg the fuck out despite having no real evidence for anything they say either.

>>15716550
>Do you see how you succeed at one level of the discussion, but fail at the more important overarching one?
The only failure I see is an error on my part assuming the participants of the discussion are capable of extrapolating beyond the number to reach a conclusion based on some sort of implied understanding of the mechanical underpinnings of the world. That was wrong. Instead, I am here being talked down to by some halfwit. That's upsetting.

i want invite to motl's blog. help

>>15716578
That's ironic of you to say, when you are the autist laser-focused on the actual figure (though admittedly, both of us don't truly care about the precise number, but rather some abstract interval, where a figure of 7% can for example -- in your mind -- lie in an interval denoting "insignificant").

Can you tell me how one company that owns sub 50% stakes in -- actually, let's weaken that and talk just even <20% -- in a long list of very large multibillion corporations, how that isn't indicative of certain power dynamics? Especially if the company has openly stated how it seeks to implement its agenda via its investment policy?

>>15716563
It's quite interesting how the "trust the expert" lefty laymen claim you shouldn't question basedence when it comes to climate change and vacines. But when someone tells them to trust the experts when it comes to economics, they do a 180.

>>15713945
Wow, I guess even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

>>15716593
>isn't indicative of certain power dynamics
No one is denying the existence of power dynamics only their efficacy in the use case.
> Implement its agenda
Everyone has an agenda, this is actually one of the key reasons the claim of BlackRock puppeteering in the manner presented is retarded. There is obviously going to be constant opposition in the form of other agents of similar capability jockeying for position Also, the agendas are influenced by the shareholders and steered by leadership and it's not easy steering 4 trillion dollars worth of shit internally as well. Now we come to the 7 percent. Sure once Blackrock throws down 7 percent on the table it seems like a lot, but literally a retard tier coalition would create equal or greater opposition at most of those behemoth corpos. Imagine negotiating with essentially kingdoms while being accountable to the shareholders Sounds cucked as fuck to me and nowhere near this emperor-level shit you're seeing in your head movie.

>>15716619
It's really fascinating how the left claims to believe in science and disparages the right's idea of "values first" and then flipflop when it suits them. You remember those dubious studies about how CT scans show that trans women have the same brains as women done by cargo cult "scientists"? Forget about the data, the interpretation doesn't even make sense from a metaphysical perspective. But then the research was debunked, by their own side no less, and so now they're clinging on to "it doesn't matter what the science says, being trans inclusive is the morally right thing to do".
So essentially what the right were doing all along? they could've saved us all the trouble

https://twitter.com/MeghanEMurphy/status/1662267760259346434

>>15713945
I thought we went through the shortfalls of capitalism in the early 1900s. Unchecked capitalism isn't good. Communism, which was an answer to it, isn't good either because it strips people from their meaning and purpose. Fascism, which was an answer to it, is good. It was so good, in fact, that it took war, destruction and continued suppression for 80 years to prevent it, but it will ultimately fail, because it is the natural progression of things.

When communism is tried and fails, you get fascism.

>>15716643
You can't have capitalism if you have a debt based central bank economy, you only have debtism not capitalism.
So we've seen unchecked debtism

>>15716646
>noo creditors cant be capitalists
>capitalist is only when I win
heh, sire, you're in for a rude awakening if you think we aren't living in the freest economy in the history of the world today
never before have private entities owned the entire world, including other superpowers.

>>15716660
communism is just more central bank debtism

What the fascists did was emove the debt, America copied some of their policies and called it fordism

>>15716668
*but then that worked too well so they reinstated debtism

>>15716635
>Everyone has an agenda, this is actually one of the key reasons the claim of BlackRock puppeteering in the manner presented is retarded.
It's a) not trivial that some actors pursue their agenda with 10 times the forte than others -- i.e. we are just not talking about some qualitiatively "either you have it or not" difference, but the quantity also matters.
b) it's likewise not trivial what the precise agenda is, and whether you the commenter (or let's say a country's intelligent caste, or let's say the entire populace) is opposed to the agenda. For example, I have zero issues with companies VEHEMENTLY pursuing some policy of fair trade with third world countries, even though this is an interest that is pretty much orthogonal to my interests.
The agenda BR is pushing, however, I think is very corrosive to the fundamental core of Western civilization, and you will now get a novel from me explaining all my high IQ (130s) INTP reasons. Suffice to say they are more thought out than /pol/. As a little taste: relativizing/reinventing gender roles is very much a non-trivial action upon the human species, as the gender roles are not some pure, mere social fabrication (we can argue to what degree they are, but any such model that trivialized the non-fabricated element is worthless) but rather interact deeply with fundamental mammalian biology. You will never get, for example, an economy where women pursue STEM interests to the same degree as men, because that would imply they pursue nursing or other typically feminine occupations to the same degree as men, which implies they have become a gender that is equally nursing compared to a male, which is not compatible with biology.

>>15716689
>you will NOT get a novel

>>15716689
>but the quantity also matters.
Blackrock doesn't have any more exhausted pill popping outperformers than anyone else. Once again, being the biggest doesn't guarantee superiority.
>it's likewise not trivial what the precise agenda is
It is in a conversation about range.
> corrosive to the fundamental core of Western civilization,
It's hilarious to me when an individual stakes a claim against the velocity of a trend in a system. You're going to get crushed as the gears turn. God speed.
> high IQ (130s) INTP reasons
kek @ your insecurity. Thanks for sharing.
>pure, mere social fabrication
It is though. The decision is made through traditional teachings rooted in survival strategies of fending off constant death, but we made the shit up
>deeply with fundamental mammalian biology.
It's deep within fundamental mammalian biology to suck when a phallic object touches your lips it doesn't necessitate a push for a cock sucker society.
> an economy where women pursue STEM interests to the same degree as men,
Our current economy is a direct contraction of that. Women are BTFO'ing men in universities something about being able to sit still and learn without having to sperg out during note taking.
>which implies they have become a gender that is equally nursing compared to a male
I don't think you understand what this gender thing is about. What the fuck are you talking about?
>which is not compatible with biology.
Boofing is compatible with biology should we begin mandating it now or wait for the designs to finish?

>>15716734
>Our current economy is a direct contraction of that. Women are BTFO'ing men in universities something about being able to sit still and learn without having to sperg out during note taking.
women are rote learners and affirmation chasers

>>15716746
>women are rote learners
I forgot, how do we organize sport teams? By height, I think.
>affirmation chasers
Name one man who spends his life chasing after women's approval by showing off how many women he fucks and showing off how hot they are to the world because otherwise what's the point?
Protip: There are none. We are an ubermensch society, am I right fellas?

>>15716734
>Blackrock doesn't have any more exhausted pill popping outperformers than anyone else. Once again, being the biggest doesn't guarantee superiority.
blackrock, vanguard, and state street are overwhelmingly larger than any other shareholder. it's best modelled as an exponential decay when you arrange them by shares. thus leadership is there to appease their largest investors by looking to them first and the other investors are typically fall in line ore are just lobbied when it matters to do so. this is for all intents and purposes guaranteed given how stacked the probabilities are in the big 3's favor. and this happens across all major corporations. they are practically another government branch at this point given how much control they have over corporations and by extension economy, policy, culture, society, etc.

>>15716791
>blackrock, vanguard, and state street are overwhelmingly larger than any other shareholder
Right. because they're passive funds that invest long term which is why they're dwarfing active funds, but they also are a lot more shareholder-sensitive than an active fund and it's in passive funds' best interest to build up businesses they're invested in so they are more profitable in the future. If that's your stated goal to keep the shareholders happy I can't imagine a world where instead of working on that you'd decide to go larp as game of thrones instead and expect to keep your job.
> fall in line ore are just lobbied when it matters to do so
I am sure if someone attempted to ram through a policy that is against the bottom line the business people are competent enough to ape together strong.
>this is for all intents and purposes guaranteed given how stacked the probabilities are in the big 3's favor
Nothing in life is guaranteed. Look at ESG for reference.
> they are practically another government branch at this point given how much control they have
I think the frantic way this conversation is approached is wishing that into reality.

>>15716834
the fact is most of the time corporations fall in line with blackrock et al as they are their primary shareholders. you don't need to own 51% of a corporation to have the leadership trip over themselves to please you. leadership only has so much attention to give. and the others are so small and scattered with opinions they are easily replaceable and don't matter. your obfuscations claiming otherwise don't matter. hence why it's practically guaranteed for these corporations to go in lock step. hence the big 3 are practically a branch of government in this corporatocracy masquerading as a democracy.

>>15715481
Monarchs were the original rootless cosmopolitans. They had no nation except other monarchs. They were separate from the people and didn't give a damn about the nations they ruled. It was all property to them.

>>15716759
This is nonsense, chatgpt could come up with a better reply

>>15716882
I am not obfuscating anything. I am stating a fact. If the big 3 were egregiously going against the grain an opposing force would emerge as there are plenty of resources available outside of their sphere of influence. Maybe everyone falls in line because they agreed on the proposed policies and aren't actually having their arms twisted.. It is possible to work cohesively without a conspiracy.

>>15716901
Show don't tell. Where's problem?

Thank you, Sabine.

>>15713945
>let me explain
No I don't think I will... Stay in your area of expertise.

>>15716903
the rest fall in line because the big 3 are the grain for the ruling class. there is no arm twisting needed on their part, each one of them would gladly fuck over even their own grandmas for a profit. the sad part is how some of those outside their big club will trip over themselves to defend them and their exploitative system.

>>15716871
corporatism and crony capitalism are not synonymous with free markets, they are the opposite of free markets, they are communism.

>>15716871
also "real capitalism" has been tried and it has been wildly successful up until the (((bankers))) created their monopolies to enforce communism.

>>15716924
I don't know what planet you're from, anon. Nowhere in the world where I've seen power dynamics play out did I see the smaller factions sit with their thumb up their ass awaiting orders. There are always moves to make. It is true there are levers Backrock for sure leans on, but to affirm a unilateral salute to the dictator because of that in the United States of Freedomstan? No shot.

>>15713945
> She thinks consciousness is generated by the brain and say it as if it was an irrefutable fact.
Discarded.

>>15716734
You are pure noise.

>>15716962
Intelligence is a funny thing. If that's the case it should be easy to point out and ridicule. Seems odd you've chosen to vague post instead.

>>15716962
noise is more useful than him

>>15716950
idk if you're paying attention but there has never been a truly bottom up society in the history of this species and burgerland is no different. burgerland and its many tiny vassals just have controlled ops to dupe the masses into believing they have some chance over the establishment. you see this all the time with smaller supposedly anti-establishment parties that just go onto form coalitions with mainstream establishment hack parties. what smaller factions truly do oppose the ruling class are so small that they pose no real risk to the established order. its all just adversarial theatre at the top and bottom is sadly gullible enough to play along at its own expense. this same shit applies to corporate politics which are really one and the same. you can barely if ever buy fruit in burgerland that doesn't have a chiquita or dole logo stamped on it.

https://odysee.com/@ProgressiveTruthSeekers:3/Amazing-Testimony-From-Financial-Elite-Insider-Ronald-Bernard:8

Also watch some Mike Maloney

>>15716970
Visit /b/ right now and go the fourth thread in the top row.
Would you spend your time writing a three paragraph thread why the thread topic sucks and the OP picture is garbage?

You are the equivalent discussion partner. You are pure noise.

>>15716932
>>15716944
>noooooooo! REAL capitalism works I swear!!
>j-j-j-just the boogeyman k-keeps r-ruining it EVERY TIME!!!
>i-i-its not an i-inevitability of capitalism due to discrepancies between theory and practice! I-I swear!

>>15717004
I agree that the problem is class-based and politics are mainly theatrical, at the federal level. There is a lot of power to be had at the local level all we need is educated people who aren't seduced by money working towards a well-defined goal of shared prosperity that we have woven into the fabric of society. Unfortunately, anything shared is a commie dog whistle and it's all or nothing in the Thunderdome. So fucking, good luck.
>>15717028
>I can't handle when what I believe to be true is challenged so any dissenting opinion is reduced to noise
I am not familiar with this mental illness. Do you have a caretaker at home?

>>15713945
this one got the pol putinbots really seethin lol

>>15716895
rootless cosmopolitans or nationalist subhuman like you destroyed local dialects and mongrelized people into one holistic nations. There is no wonder that occitan language died out.

>>15717036
You are a mentally ill schizophreniac lefty spergy type who hates capitalism but thinks science supports his deranged world views that no genius or smart / educated person would ever agree on.

You belong to Africa

>>15717036
so you have no response? of course you don't because you are a fucking moron that doesnt understand anything about any of this outside of what the blue haired troons on pleebit and bunkertrans told you to think

>>15717148
>>15717216
>WEF drones seething

>>15717036
socialism is centralized, free markets are decentralized. monopolies are centralization of the market, I dont see what is so hard to understand even for you double digit IQ types. Make it real simple "centralization bad" it doenst matter what you call it drooling gorilla.

>>15717144
Kings and princes wouldn't lift a finger to help the occitan language. They would have regarded it as peasant gabble.

>>15717065
>>I agree that the problem is class-based and politics are mainly theatrical, at the federal level.
At the local level too. It's even easier for bureaucrats to put money in their pockets.

yes

>>15718454
Fuck you schizo faggot everybody knows it's you you pathetic little shot eating worm

>>15713945
Based

>>15713945
Unfathomably based, not a word she said was untrue and it’s actively weeding out all the psued retards who thought they knew jackshit about how such things actually work in the real world, no amount of seething will change the truth you Tankie fags lol

>>15713945
Good for what? You could say it's "good but suboptimal" depending on the objective

>>15718948
>didn't watch the video
>assume subject matter
>le skepticman shits on strawman assumption with facts and logic
based

>>15718995
The video hasn't been watched and no assumptions have been made

>>15719028
>no assumptions
>You could say it's "good but suboptima
What do you call this?

I don't care about her views on capitalism and I don't see why anyone should care. It's pure arrogance, hubris and narcissism on her part to believe that she is even remotely qualified to discuss economics on her PHYSICS channel. It's like people can't refrain from touching on subjects completely out of their field of expertise just to generate engagement and views. Why are content creators like this? Literally no one is asking for this kind of content from her.

>>15719058
The second clause in the sentence was "depending on the objective", you would call that a qualification perhaps

>>15719069
it's her channel, she can make videos about whatever she wants you spastic fucktard. who the fuck are you and what are qualifications to talk about what subjects youtubers can make videos about projecting narc faggot

>>15719073
Cool, how does one qualify without assuming the parameters?

>>15719081
We don't know until "good" is evaluated, it could be good or good but suboptimal. I guess you're right that I'm making an assumption that what is "good" can likely be improved

>>15719079
105 IQ response. absolute baboon

>>15719102
you wear your hubris and narcissism on your sleeve, your seethe is delicious

>>15719107
>your seethe is delicious
Pretty rich coming from someone who jumped to dear Sabine's defense as if she was your mom while throwing copious amounts of insults for no reason. You need to do some serious self-introspection and show more respect for yourself.

>>15719107
>>15719120
As a qualified connoisseur of seethe, I believe I can settle your dispute. Bodhi's seethe is indeed more delicious than your seethe. Too much salt and pepper in your seethe. Other than that, it's quite stale and not particularly flavorful

>>15719120
I didnt defend anyone, in fact I constantly berate threads on this retarded slut. Calling you out for your seething and hypocrisy had nothing to do with her. The fact that you had to make that strawman to cope however is the icing on the cake

>>15719150
There was zero seethe from over here queer. Just pure joy basking in his seethe

>>15719165
I thank you for this extra offering of seethe, but I'm afraid its quality falls short of your previous efforts.

>>15719170
I am now adding your seethe to my entertainment this afternoon. Added bonus gifted from the heavens

>>15719173
It's okay. You will always be my favorite son, rapidly declining seethe quality notwithstanding.

>>15719162
>I didnt defend anyone
Yes you did, you naughty little liar.
>your seething and hypocrisy
Said the seething hypocrite. Rich!
>The fact that you had to make that strawman to cope
You're the one coping by way of copious projection. The fact you are not realizing this is proof of you gigantic ego and hubris. lol
>>15719173
Now you're breaking records of seethe in real time my dude. Keep going! We're all rooting for you!

>>15719173
You smell, of shit, bodhi. Stop posting on this board, go back home(the toilet) and live your normal life (being a shit)

>>15719069
>PHYSICS
yet when she talked about climate change and other bullshit on her channel you ignored she has no expertise on those subjects because she was saying things you agreed with

>>15719193
>>15719184
>>15719174
>reeeeeeeeeeeeee
feels good man

>>15719197
You are my son. Goyslop girl is your mom.

>>15719195
No you're right, I think she should have sticked to physics all the way through. She's became an attention whore due to exposure and popularity. Forcing yourself to post videos weekly even when nothing is happening also tends to result in such unfortunate outcomes.

Chuds and basedence boys can cry all they want, Lady science said it, it's official: economics is science.

She's so pretentious. I agree that capitalism is good, but you can't have a channel where you present yourself as an authority in physics and randomly make a deteour about you laywoman's opinions on political economy using the same language you use when you talk about stuff you're actually qualified for.
So irresponsible. No different from celebrities trying to influence young people into following their politics.

>>15719245
Exactly. Besides you can agree with her message while disagreeing with the way she delivers it contrary to what midwits here argue. She holds a certain amount of responsibility as an influencer with a sizeable audience, and acting like she did isn't doing anyone a service.

>>15719245
>No different from celebrities trying to influence young people into following their politics.
Yah and for the last 100 years only one side has done it and now we have troon pshycos running around everywhere spewing their retarded nonsense. For this one video alone and the amount of seethe it has caused sabine has been moved from the cringe column to the based column in my based or cringe diary

>>15719259
touch grass

>>15719236
Well all right, if it's /sci/ related now:

A spectre is haunting Europe — the spectre of communism. All the powers of old Europe have entered into a holy alliance to exorcise this spectre: Pope and Tsar, Metternich and Guizot, French Radicals and German police-spies.

Where is the party in opposition that has not been decried as communistic by its opponents in power? Where is the opposition that has not hurled back the branding reproach of communism, against the more advanced opposition parties, as well as against its reactionary adversaries?

Two things result from this fact:

I. Communism is already acknowledged by all European powers to be itself a power.

II. It is high time that Communists should openly, in the face of the whole world, publish their views, their aims, their tendencies, and meet this nursery tale of the Spectre of Communism with a manifesto of the party itself.

To this end, Communists of various nationalities have assembled in London and sketched the following manifesto, to be published in the English, French, German, Italian, Flemish and Danish languages.

>>15719286
Chapter I. Bourgeois and Proletarians

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles.

Freeman and slave, patrician and plebeian, lord and serf, guild-master and journeyman, in a word, oppressor and oppressed, stood in constant opposition to one another, carried on an uninterrupted, now hidden, now open fight, a fight that each time ended, either in a revolutionary reconstitution of society at large, or in the common ruin of the contending classes.

In the earlier epochs of history, we find almost everywhere a complicated arrangement of society into various orders, a manifold gradation of social rank. In ancient Rome we have patricians, knights, plebeians, slaves; in the Middle Ages, feudal lords, vassals, guild-masters, journeymen, apprentices, serfs; in almost all of these classes, again, subordinate gradations.

The modern bourgeois society that has sprouted from the ruins of feudal society has not done away with class antagonisms. It has but established new classes, new conditions of oppression, new forms of struggle in place of the old ones.

Our epoch, the epoch of the bourgeoisie, possesses, however, this distinct feature: it has simplified class antagonisms. Society as a whole is more and more splitting up into two great hostile camps, into two great classes directly facing each other — Bourgeoisie and Proletariat.

From the serfs of the Middle Ages sprang the chartered burghers of the earliest towns. From these burgesses the first elements of the bourgeoisie were developed.

The discovery of America, the rounding of the Cape, opened up fresh ground for the rising bourgeoisie. The East-Indian and Chinese markets, the colonisation of America, trade with the colonies, the increase in the means of exchange and in commodities generally, gave to commerce, to navigation, to industry, an impulse never before known, and thereby, to the revolutionary element in the tottering feudal society, a rapid development.

>>15719290
The feudal system of industry, in which industrial production was monopolised by closed guilds, now no longer sufficed for the growing wants of the new markets. The manufacturing system took its place. The guild-masters were pushed on one side by the manufacturing middle class; division of labour between the different corporate guilds vanished in the face of division of labour in each single workshop.

Meantime the markets kept ever growing, the demand ever rising. Even manufacturer no longer sufficed. Thereupon, steam and machinery revolutionised industrial production. The place of manufacture was taken by the giant, Modern Industry; the place of the industrial middle class by industrial millionaires, the leaders of the whole industrial armies, the modern bourgeois.

Modern industry has established the world market, for which the discovery of America paved the way. This market has given an immense development to commerce, to navigation, to communication by land. This development has, in its turn, reacted on the extension of industry; and in proportion as industry, commerce, navigation, railways extended, in the same proportion the bourgeoisie developed, increased its capital, and pushed into the background every class handed down from the Middle Ages.

We see, therefore, how the modern bourgeoisie is itself the product of a long course of development, of a series of revolutions in the modes of production and of exchange.

>>15719293
Each step in the development of the bourgeoisie was accompanied by a corresponding political advance of that class. An oppressed class under the sway of the feudal nobility, an armed and self-governing association in the medieval commune(4): here independent urban republic (as in Italy and Germany); there taxable “third estate” of the monarchy (as in France); afterwards, in the period of manufacturing proper, serving either the semi-feudal or the absolute monarchy as a counterpoise against the nobility, and, in fact, cornerstone of the great monarchies in general, the bourgeoisie has at last, since the establishment of Modern Industry and of the world market, conquered for itself, in the modern representative State, exclusive political sway. The executive of the modern state is but a committee for managing the common affairs of the whole bourgeoisie.

The bourgeoisie, historically, has played a most revolutionary part.

The bourgeoisie, wherever it has got the upper hand, has put an end to all feudal, patriarchal, idyllic relations. It has pitilessly torn asunder the motley feudal ties that bound man to his “natural superiors”, and has left remaining no other nexus between man and man than naked self-interest, than callous “cash payment”. It has drowned the most heavenly ecstasies of religious fervour, of chivalrous enthusiasm, of philistine sentimentalism, in the icy water of egotistical calculation. It has resolved personal worth into exchange value, and in place of the numberless indefeasible chartered freedoms, has set up that single, unconscionable freedom — Free Trade. In one word, for exploitation, veiled by religious and political illusions, it has substituted naked, shameless, direct, brutal exploitation.

The bourgeoisie has stripped of its halo every occupation hitherto honoured and looked up to with reverent awe. It has converted the physician, the lawyer, the priest, the poet, the man of science, into its paid wage labourers.

>>15719299
The bourgeoisie has torn away from the family its sentimental veil, and has reduced the family relation to a mere money relation.

The bourgeoisie has disclosed how it came to pass that the brutal display of vigour in the Middle Ages, which reactionaries so much admire, found its fitting complement in the most slothful indolence. It has been the first to show what man’s activity can bring about. It has accomplished wonders far surpassing Egyptian pyramids, Roman aqueducts, and Gothic cathedrals; it has conducted expeditions that put in the shade all former Exoduses of nations and crusades.

The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionising the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with them the whole relations of society. Conservation of the old modes of production in unaltered form, was, on the contrary, the first condition of existence for all earlier industrial classes. Constant revolutionising of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind.

The need of a constantly expanding market for its products chases the bourgeoisie over the entire surface of the globe. It must nestle everywhere, settle everywhere, establish connexions everywhere.

>>15719300
The bourgeoisie has through its exploitation of the world market given a cosmopolitan character to production and consumption in every country. To the great chagrin of Reactionists, it has drawn from under the feet of industry the national ground on which it stood. All old-established national industries have been destroyed or are daily being destroyed. They are dislodged by new industries, whose introduction becomes a life and death question for all civilised nations, by industries that no longer work up indigenous raw material, but raw material drawn from the remotest zones; industries whose products are consumed, not only at home, but in every quarter of the globe. In place of the old wants, satisfied by the production of the country, we find new wants, requiring for their satisfaction the products of distant lands and climes. In place of the old local and national seclusion and self-sufficiency, we have intercourse in every direction, universal inter-dependence of nations. And as in material, so also in intellectual production. The intellectual creations of individual nations become common property. National one-sidedness and narrow-mindedness become more and more impossible, and from the numerous national and local literatures, there arises a world literature.

The bourgeoisie, by the rapid improvement of all instruments of production, by the immensely facilitated means of communication, draws all, even the most barbarian, nations into civilisation. The cheap prices of commodities are the heavy artillery with which it batters down all Chinese walls, with which it forces the barbarians’ intensely obstinate hatred of foreigners to capitulate. It compels all nations, on pain of extinction, to adopt the bourgeois mode of production; it compels them to introduce what it calls civilisation into their midst, i.e., to become bourgeois themselves. In one word, it creates a world after its own image.

>TFW A SBEGDER IS HUNDING EUROB

>>15719304
The bourgeoisie has subjected the country to the rule of the towns. It has created enormous cities, has greatly increased the urban population as compared with the rural, and has thus rescued a considerable part of the population from the idiocy of rural life. Just as it has made the country dependent on the towns, so it has made barbarian and semi-barbarian countries dependent on the civilised ones, nations of peasants on nations of bourgeois, the East on the West.

The bourgeoisie keeps more and more doing away with the scattered state of the population, of the means of production, and of property. It has agglomerated population, centralised the means of production, and has concentrated property in a few hands. The necessary consequence of this was political centralisation. Independent, or but loosely connected provinces, with separate interests, laws, governments, and systems of taxation, became lumped together into one nation, with one government, one code of laws, one national class-interest, one frontier, and one customs-tariff.

The bourgeoisie, during its rule of scarce one hundred years, has created more massive and more colossal productive forces than have all preceding generations together. Subjection of Nature’s forces to man, machinery, application of chemistry to industry and agriculture, steam-navigation, railways, electric telegraphs, clearing of whole continents for cultivation, canalisation of rivers, whole populations conjured out of the ground — what earlier century had even a presentiment that such productive forces slumbered in the lap of social labour?
>>15719307
Hush, it's science, I don't make the rules

>>15719269
>t. seething tankie troon

>>15719311
We see then: the means of production and of exchange, on whose foundation the bourgeoisie built itself up, were generated in feudal society. At a certain stage in the development of these means of production and of exchange, the conditions under which feudal society produced and exchanged, the feudal organisation of agriculture and manufacturing industry, in one word, the feudal relations of property became no longer compatible with the already developed productive forces; they became so many fetters. They had to be burst asunder; they were burst asunder.

Into their place stepped free competition, accompanied by a social and political constitution adapted in it, and the economic and political sway of the bourgeois class.

A similar movement is going on before our own eyes. Modern bourgeois society, with its relations of production, of exchange and of property, a society that has conjured up such gigantic means of production and of exchange, is like the sorcerer who is no longer able to control the powers of the nether world whom he has called up by his spells. For many a decade past the history of industry and commerce is but the history of the revolt of modern productive forces against modern conditions of production, against the property relations that are the conditions for the existence of the bourgeois and of its rule. It is enough to mention the commercial crises that by their periodical return put the existence of the entire bourgeois society on its trial, each time more threateningly. In these crises, a great part not only of the existing products, but also of the previously created productive forces, are periodically destroyed. In these crises, there breaks out an epidemic that, in all earlier epochs, would have seemed an absurdity — the epidemic of over-production.

>>15719315
Society suddenly finds itself put back into a state of momentary barbarism; it appears as if a famine, a universal war of devastation, had cut off the supply of every means of subsistence; industry and commerce seem to be destroyed; and why? Because there is too much civilisation, too much means of subsistence, too much industry, too much commerce. The productive forces at the disposal of society no longer tend to further the development of the conditions of bourgeois property; on the contrary, they have become too powerful for these conditions, by which they are fettered, and so soon as they overcome these fetters, they bring disorder into the whole of bourgeois society, endanger the existence of bourgeois property. The conditions of bourgeois society are too narrow to comprise the wealth created by them. And how does the bourgeoisie get over these crises? On the one hand by enforced destruction of a mass of productive forces; on the other, by the conquest of new markets, and by the more thorough exploitation of the old ones. That is to say, by paving the way for more extensive and more destructive crises, and by diminishing the means whereby crises are prevented.

The weapons with which the bourgeoisie felled feudalism to the ground are now turned against the bourgeoisie itself.

But not only has the bourgeoisie forged the weapons that bring death to itself; it has also called into existence the men who are to wield those weapons — the modern working class — the proletarians.

>>15719317
In proportion as the bourgeoisie, i.e., capital, is developed, in the same proportion is the proletariat, the modern working class, developed — a class of labourers, who live only so long as they find work, and who find work only so long as their labour increases capital. These labourers, who must sell themselves piecemeal, are a commodity, like every other article of commerce, and are consequently exposed to all the vicissitudes of competition, to all the fluctuations of the market.

Owing to the extensive use of machinery, and to the division of labour, the work of the proletarians has lost all individual character, and, consequently, all charm for the workman. He becomes an appendage of the machine, and it is only the most simple, most monotonous, and most easily acquired knack, that is required of him. Hence, the cost of production of a workman is restricted, almost entirely, to the means of subsistence that he requires for maintenance, and for the propagation of his race. But the price of a commodity, and therefore also of labour, is equal to its cost of production. In proportion, therefore, as the repulsiveness of the work increases, the wage decreases. Nay more, in proportion as the use of machinery and division of labour increases, in the same proportion the burden of toil also increases, whether by prolongation of the working hours, by the increase of the work exacted in a given time or by increased speed of machinery, etc.

>>15719324
Modern Industry has converted the little workshop of the patriarchal master into the great factory of the industrial capitalist. Masses of labourers, crowded into the factory, are organised like soldiers. As privates of the industrial army they are placed under the command of a perfect hierarchy of officers and sergeants. Not only are they slaves of the bourgeois class, and of the bourgeois State; they are daily and hourly enslaved by the machine, by the overlooker, and, above all, by the individual bourgeois manufacturer himself. The more openly this despotism proclaims gain to be its end and aim, the more petty, the more hateful and the more embittering it is.

The less the skill and exertion of strength implied in manual labour, in other words, the more modern industry becomes developed, the more is the labour of men superseded by that of women. Differences of age and sex have no longer any distinctive social validity for the working class. All are instruments of labour, more or less expensive to use, according to their age and sex.

No sooner is the exploitation of the labourer by the manufacturer, so far, at an end, that he receives his wages in cash, than he is set upon by the other portions of the bourgeoisie, the landlord, the shopkeeper, the pawnbroker, etc.

>>15719325
The lower strata of the middle class — the small tradespeople, shopkeepers, and retired tradesmen generally, the handicraftsmen and peasants — all these sink gradually into the proletariat, partly because their diminutive capital does not suffice for the scale on which Modern Industry is carried on, and is swamped in the competition with the large capitalists, partly because their specialised skill is rendered worthless by new methods of production. Thus the proletariat is recruited from all classes of the population.

The proletariat goes through various stages of development. With its birth begins its struggle with the bourgeoisie. At first the contest is carried on by individual labourers, then by the workpeople of a factory, then by the operative of one trade, in one locality, against the individual bourgeois who directly exploits them. They direct their attacks not against the bourgeois conditions of production, but against the instruments of production themselves; they destroy imported wares that compete with their labour, they smash to pieces machinery, they set factories ablaze, they seek to restore by force the vanished status of the workman of the Middle Ages.

At this stage, the labourers still form an incoherent mass scattered over the whole country, and broken up by their mutual competition. If anywhere they unite to form more compact bodies, this is not yet the consequence of their own active union, but of the union of the bourgeoisie, which class, in order to attain its own political ends, is compelled to set the whole proletariat in motion, and is moreover yet, for a time, able to do so. At this stage, therefore, the proletarians do not fight their enemies, but the enemies of their enemies, the remnants of absolute monarchy, the landowners, the non-industrial bourgeois, the petty bourgeois. Thus, the whole historical movement is concentrated in the hands of the bourgeoisie; every victory so obtained is a victory for the bourgeoisie.

>>15719329
But with the development of industry, the proletariat not only increases in number; it becomes concentrated in greater masses, its strength grows, and it feels that strength more. The various interests and conditions of life within the ranks of the proletariat are more and more equalised, in proportion as machinery obliterates all distinctions of labour, and nearly everywhere reduces wages to the same low level. The growing competition among the bourgeois, and the resulting commercial crises, make the wages of the workers ever more fluctuating. The increasing improvement of machinery, ever more rapidly developing, makes their livelihood more and more precarious; the collisions between individual workmen and individual bourgeois take more and more the character of collisions between two classes. Thereupon, the workers begin to form combinations (Trades’ Unions) against the bourgeois; they club together in order to keep up the rate of wages; they found permanent associations in order to make provision beforehand for these occasional revolts. Here and there, the contest breaks out into riots.

Now and then the workers are victorious, but only for a time. The real fruit of their battles lies, not in the immediate result, but in the ever expanding union of the workers. This union is helped on by the improved means of communication that are created by modern industry, and that place the workers of different localities in contact with one another. It was just this contact that was needed to centralise the numerous local struggles, all of the same character, into one national struggle between classes. But every class struggle is a political struggle. And that union, to attain which the burghers of the Middle Ages, with their miserable highways, required centuries, the modern proletarian, thanks to railways, achieve in a few years.

>>15719331
This organisation of the proletarians into a class, and, consequently into a political party, is continually being upset again by the competition between the workers themselves. But it ever rises up again, stronger, firmer, mightier. It compels legislative recognition of particular interests of the workers, by taking advantage of the divisions among the bourgeoisie itself. Thus, the ten-hours’ bill in England was carried.

Altogether collisions between the classes of the old society further, in many ways, the course of development of the proletariat. The bourgeoisie finds itself involved in a constant battle. At first with the aristocracy; later on, with those portions of the bourgeoisie itself, whose interests have become antagonistic to the progress of industry; at all time with the bourgeoisie of foreign countries. In all these battles, it sees itself compelled to appeal to the proletariat, to ask for help, and thus, to drag it into the political arena. The bourgeoisie itself, therefore, supplies the proletariat with its own elements of political and general education, in other words, it furnishes the proletariat with weapons for fighting the bourgeoisie.

Further, as we have already seen, entire sections of the ruling class are, by the advance of industry, precipitated into the proletariat, or are at least threatened in their conditions of existence. These also supply the proletariat with fresh elements of enlightenment and progress.

>>15719335
Finally, in times when the class struggle nears the decisive hour, the progress of dissolution going on within the ruling class, in fact within the whole range of old society, assumes such a violent, glaring character, that a small section of the ruling class cuts itself adrift, and joins the revolutionary class, the class that holds the future in its hands. Just as, therefore, at an earlier period, a section of the nobility went over to the bourgeoisie, so now a portion of the bourgeoisie goes over to the proletariat, and in particular, a portion of the bourgeois ideologists, who have raised themselves to the level of comprehending theoretically the historical movement as a whole.

Of all the classes that stand face to face with the bourgeoisie today, the proletariat alone is a really revolutionary class. The other classes decay and finally disappear in the face of Modern Industry; the proletariat is its special and essential product.

The lower middle class, the small manufacturer, the shopkeeper, the artisan, the peasant, all these fight against the bourgeoisie, to save from extinction their existence as fractions of the middle class. They are therefore not revolutionary, but conservative. Nay more, they are reactionary, for they try to roll back the wheel of history. If by chance, they are revolutionary, they are only so in view of their impending transfer into the proletariat; they thus defend not their present, but their future interests, they desert their own standpoint to place themselves at that of the proletariat.

The “dangerous class”, [lumpenproletariat] the social scum, that passively rotting mass thrown off by the lowest layers of the old society, may, here and there, be swept into the movement by a proletarian revolution; its conditions of life, however, prepare it far more for the part of a bribed tool of reactionary intrigue.

>>15719341
In the condition of the proletariat, those of old society at large are already virtually swamped. The proletarian is without property; his relation to his wife and children has no longer anything in common with the bourgeois family relations; modern industry labour, modern subjection to capital, the same in England as in France, in America as in Germany, has stripped him of every trace of national character. Law, morality, religion, are to him so many bourgeois prejudices, behind which lurk in ambush just as many bourgeois interests.

All the preceding classes that got the upper hand sought to fortify their already acquired status by subjecting society at large to their conditions of appropriation. The proletarians cannot become masters of the productive forces of society, except by abolishing their own previous mode of appropriation, and thereby also every other previous mode of appropriation. They have nothing of their own to secure and to fortify; their mission is to destroy all previous securities for, and insurances of, individual property.

All previous historical movements were movements of minorities, or in the interest of minorities. The proletarian movement is the self-conscious, independent movement of the immense majority, in the interest of the immense majority. The proletariat, the lowest stratum of our present society, cannot stir, cannot raise itself up, without the whole superincumbent strata of official society being sprung into the air.

Though not in substance, yet in form, the struggle of the proletariat with the bourgeoisie is at first a national struggle. The proletariat of each country must, of course, first of all settle matters with its own bourgeoisie.

>>15719286
stfu you stupid nigger. It's high time the walls were painted with communist brains

>>15719344
In depicting the most general phases of the development of the proletariat, we traced the more or less veiled civil war, raging within existing society, up to the point where that war breaks out into open revolution, and where the violent overthrow of the bourgeoisie lays the foundation for the sway of the proletariat.

Hitherto, every form of society has been based, as we have already seen, on the antagonism of oppressing and oppressed classes. But in order to oppress a class, certain conditions must be assured to it under which it can, at least, continue its slavish existence. The serf, in the period of serfdom, raised himself to membership in the commune, just as the petty bourgeois, under the yoke of the feudal absolutism, managed to develop into a bourgeois. The modern labourer, on the contrary, instead of rising with the process of industry, sinks deeper and deeper below the conditions of existence of his own class. He becomes a pauper, and pauperism develops more rapidly than population and wealth. And here it becomes evident, that the bourgeoisie is unfit any longer to be the ruling class in society, and to impose its conditions of existence upon society as an over-riding law. It is unfit to rule because it is incompetent to assure an existence to its slave within his slavery, because it cannot help letting him sink into such a state, that it has to feed him, instead of being fed by him. Society can no longer live under this bourgeoisie, in other words, its existence is no longer compatible with society.

>>15719351
The essential conditions for the existence and for the sway of the bourgeois class is the formation and augmentation of capital; the condition for capital is wage-labour. Wage-labour rests exclusively on competition between the labourers. The advance of industry, whose involuntary promoter is the bourgeoisie, replaces the isolation of the labourers, due to competition, by the revolutionary combination, due to association. The development of Modern Industry, therefore, cuts from under its feet the very foundation on which the bourgeoisie produces and appropriates products. What the bourgeoisie therefore produces, above all, are its own grave-diggers. Its fall and the victory of the proletariat are equally inevitable.

End of chapter 1; I will not be fielding questions

Marx was royal society member.

They're a much darker and suspicious group than people would believe....
seriously look at what their goal is and their connections to to various intelligence groups is

>>15719286
>>15719358

>>15713945
shes done milking physics so shes turning to economics?

>>15713945
queen of dislikes

>>15715270
tbf video essays are a tranny hotspot, his concern is warranted

Why are mods allowing for multiple threads about the same thing?

>>15720398
according to the video you have to pay people to get quality work

Unlike all the other meme systems (or more like non-systems because nobody can fucking describe how that shit would actually work and it never does work that way anyway), "capitalism" has a known set of bounds and parameters within which we know it works okay. Basically preventing too big corporations, preventing pollution, consumer and worker standards, that type of stuff.

Basically regulations need to serve to create most wealth and liberty for the individual while being able to restrict the abusive effects of large corporations and governments. You can call this a difficult challenge but the basically we know what to do. It's not a mystery.

Culture that understands and pursues this is the key, for that you at least need high IQ, perceptive individuals. These individuals must work together against psychokikes who always wanna rise to the top and their niggertranny masses of golems.

>>15720398
>>15720820
Because "capitalism" deems it profitable to destroy every major online community that isn't controlled by a corporation. What do you want mods to do? All they can do at this point is nuke the entire board several times a day so most of them stopped caring and left.

>>15721178
>Because "capitalism" deems it profitable to destroy every major online community that isn't controlled by a corporation.
and that's a good thing you fucking shit eating retard commie

Does anyone actually reply to namefags?

>>15721191
I do. It's fun.

>>15721183
Bodhi, do you understand now why IP addresses are not "base 8"?

>>15721198
>I do.
Ok, but you're a cancer, not a person. "Anyone" wasn't referring to you.

>>15721201
I'm metastasizing, you're not.

>>15713945
go ahead and post this on current pol. No balls.

>>15721198
>>15721183
schizo samefag. kys schizo nigger

>>15721251
There can only be one

>>15721251
>schizo shit eater still thinks he's clever and that everybody doesn't know it's him
we all know it's you. how's the turds tasting schizo

Bags stain purple vacuum. Running lately people purpose teal. Too often sleeping blankets

>>15714355
having a nation

>>15714355
Communists actually have a cope about bourgeois nationalism vs proletarian nationalism so they can trick themselves into supporting reactionary third world dictatorships that are vaguely anti-imperialist

>>15713945
So a month ago she tweeted that lk99 was likely real after believing some obvious fake video and now she says "capitalism is good", what's going on?

I've seen respectable scientists getting retarded when they age, but she doesn't look that old

>>15723128
>she doesn't look that old
t. gilf enjoyer

>>15715934
>>15716165

>>15716689
>The agenda BR is pushing
BR is an asset managemebt firm, they exist to make money. They don't care one bit about any "agenda". If the "agenda" doesn't make them any money, they don't do it.
Do you really not know what investment banking is?

>>15715934
goy pls

Based Sabine tea bagging on trannies again

>>15713947
Looks like the least masculine german frau to me

>>15713945
Jew states that system they came up with is good idea on platform they run to the golems they created.

>>15723152
Yet BlackRock, Vanguard and State Street are all used to push an agenda of destruction

>>15723152
>BR is an asset managemebt firm, they exist to make money. They don't care one bit about any "agenda". If the "agenda" doesn't make them any money, they don't do it.
Daily reminder that there's no point in accumulating toilet paper fiat unless you can convert it the one true currency in this world, which is raw power. You don't get anywhere on that front without the agenda bit.

>>15723594
BR work for clients.
The take money from people and turn that money into more money and they take a cut of the profits. That is how investment banking works.
If they think ESG is the best way to make money, they'll do it, if not, they won't.
It's just good old fashioned capitalism.
Don't hate the player, hate the game.

>>15723644
I don't know why you think your smoothbrain kiddie take contradicts anything I said.

>>15723644
you are either hopelessly naive and out of touch or a glownigger. which is it?

>>15715631
and that's what's great about it

>>15715631
that is what government regulation is for, the point is to keep them from being a single entity

>>15723653
Because fundamentally if Blackrock isn't making A LOT of money, they'd 1. not be able to support their operations, given their sheer size and 2. nobody would give them their money.

Power exists, of course, but it isn't in investment banking. There are better ways to turn wealth into power than using other people's money to make as much money as possible.

>>15723644
And who are their clients?

>>15723661
How naive it is to understand what investment bankers do!
Care telling me what Blackrock does all day, if it's not trying to maximize the amount of money they make with the money they have been entrusted with?

>>15723674
>Because fundamentally if Blackrock isn't making A LOT of money
But it is making a lot of money and nothing you spout contradicts anything I've pointed out. It's really funny to watch your tiny little brain struggling to disrupt the conversation.

>>15723677
The people with wealth who'd like to grow that wealth and hedge against risk and inflation, by investing that wealth into a large and diversified fund.

>>15723679
You haven't said anything, so there is nothing to contradict.
You just made vague allusions to the idea that with money you can do things. Which nobody else has ever thought about, I believe.

The point for the investment fund is making money to get more money. That is the goal. The investment fund itself is bound by the profit motive, because if they are not effective, their clients can take their assets elsewhere.
Essentially, if there is a social change caused by an investment fund that you can observe, it is because that change is profitable, it is not because that change is desired for a deeper reason like some vague idea of "real power".

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Please just stick to discussions about Monoly Man accumulating toilet paper fiat.

>>15723691
>You haven't said anything, so there is nothing to contradict.
Why are you lying?

>BR is an asset managemebt firm, they exist to make money. They don't care one bit about any "agenda". If the "agenda" doesn't make them any money, they don't do it.
Daily reminder that there's no point in accumulating toilet paper fiat unless you can convert it into the one true currency in this world, which is raw power. You don't get anywhere on that front without the agenda bit.

>>15723694
The man beind the curtain is trying to keep his wealth safe by investing it in diversified portfolios, such as the ones run by blackrock.
Pay no attention to the man who gives his money to the investment fund, just complain about the people keeping his wealth safe.

>>15723697
>Daily reminder that there's no point in accumulating toilet paper fiat unless you can convert it into the one true currency in this world, which is raw power.
The investment fund is the toilet paper fiat safe, so it can be cashed out later. If you don't understand the mechanics of power, how can you combat them?

And besides, the US dollar is backed by the greatest raw power on this planet, it's hardly toilet paper. We know what happens to people who don't like the US dollar very much, ask Saddam about that.

>>15723710
I hope you realize most people have zero moral qualms about killing you at this point. :^)

>>15723715
Yes anon, understanding the mechanics and aims of investment banking sure makes me a bad person that ought to be killed.
Did you drop out of high school, friend?

>>15723722
Ukraine lost.

>>15723723
What does Ukraine have to do with investment banking? Whether they win or lose, there's a killing to be made in the rebuilding effort and rearmament after the war.

I guess I was right about high school?

>>15723730
Ukraine lost.

>>15723722
>>15723723
>>15723730
>>15723732
shill BTFO

>>15715481
>>15717144
you're close to getting it but you stopped a few steps too early. The seed for globalism was planted way earlier than 200 years ago, the only way that humans could have kept their ethnic or cultural borders was staying tribal. You speak of occitan but forget of all the celtic cultures and languages that had been erased by your beloved monarchies and empires.

>occitan

Is this related to the genocide of the cathars?

>>15714673
is the take away supposed to be that all those great white geniuses on the left would be working at goldman sachs if they weren't discriminated against because of what the guy on the right says?

>>15714673
What's drug addiction has to do with it? Like these people could be productive if they didnt chose to shoot up instead.

>>15715586
>Im too stupid to understand what free markets
>I know what the solution is to the (((psychopath elites))) owning 70% of the resources, let's give them control over ALL the resources and give them our guns and a monopoly on force! Yay gommunism!
you are very, very stupid

>>15724294
>What's drug addiction has to do with it?
American government and big banks have a long history of cooperation with the cartels.

>Like these people could be productive if they didnt chose to shoot up instead.
Being homeless is not a choice. These people had a better life before they became homeless drug addicts. This life was taken away from them. By capitalism.

>>15724309
>dumb goyslopper thinks his half of the dialectic is the true opposition

>>15724309
>le only alternative to le capitalism is le communism
You probably also believe in the "left vs right" dichotomy. Braindead cattle like you is the perfect target audience for the dumbest propaganda.

>>15724319
What's your favorite alternative?
>inb4 you're a 1D fenceshitter

>>15724328
My favorite? Definitely me myself as the god emperor.

>>15724314
did these people live before capitalism or something?

>>15724319
>>15724316
top kek at lil babbies who just woke up from the matrix last week thinking they know what is happening in this world and why. Kid I was waking people up from the matrix before you were born. The only thing mouth breathers like you know about anything you learned from me. Spare me you retarded ape

>>15715481
You are so fucking close but somehow leave out the fact that perfect governance was figured out almost 300 years ago by people, who in the traditional sense, were considered liberals, and results in beneficial Nationalism. Perfect governance is a system where the vast hoards of retards can coexist with people like me, upon a seemingly endless continent. This isn't accomplished in a modern liberal kumbaya way, one where speech, behaviors, and all actions are regulated, but by enforcing the opposite. Through assurances of liberty and self governance, a self-stabilizing society forms with its backbone simplified to: "get off my dozens of acres of land, or I'll use my constitutional right to blow a basketball sized whole through you". A system where physical and mental deficits are evened within all confrontations, through the simple use of a tool. While accepting these differences in all other instances, letting their consequences run wild. Allowing greatness and genius to flourish. Nationalism arises naturally, forming a robust consensus network from the apparent anarchy. With the sole unifying belief being: "I OWN this land, not some landlord, state, or aristocrat, I OWN it and can do whatever I want within it. You also own land like I do. The only thing we truly can agree upon is that no one can tell us what to do within OUR land. Anyone who tries to is attempting to enslave us and deserves a response of greater magnitude."
The results of this system cannot be ignored. It populated and developed a wilderness larger than all of Europe, from nothing, in just a century. With these fruits bearing a power unrivaled in history, just 50 years later. The effects from the destruction of this system from 200 years of continual subversion can be seen, not just in it's previous territory, but in the stagnation and regression occurring throughout the globe.

Can we just agree that lobbying should be considered corruption?

>>15713945
>say capitalism is good
>retards complain
>say communism is good
>retards complain
>say a mix of both is good
>2x retards complain
Can't never win with this shit.

>>15724938

>>15724982
The only way to please them both is compete automation where human reap the benefits for free while living in virtual worlds to chase a sense of accomplishment.

>>15724938
.

>>15725077
I can't figure out whether Corbyn is good or not?

>>15725138
he is a commie retard, his brother is based af though