/sci/ - Science & Math

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJReRde0Nmk

Second for cubic kilometer SeX station

>>15713651
good content, terrible commentary.
Bring back matter-of-fact flat affect explanations.

>>15713672

If starship was hydrologgs it would lift 500 tons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBeJVN-0t2I

Will it fly now?

Clear Live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7D69kotq3U

People on mars will go crazy within half a year and kill themselves

>India propaganda video features US Atlas V
it's over

>>15713734
I'm gonna do that here.

>>15713737
more like features the entire parker solar probe mission

>>15713734
Good, more empty Mars for me. The Red Planet is reserved for like 5000 crazed antisocial loners with wide claims and lots of distance between one another. Normies get off.

>>15713705
It would also cost ten times as much and wouldn't work.

Max-Qute!

I couldn’t see shit because of the clouds

>>15713755
Remove atmosphere

>>15713755
Ok, the boom shook my whole building lmao

No one can even begin to compete. This is what you call a workhorse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbdxeuI1r7A
Kino

>>15713770
>>>/vt/

>>15713772
Oh boy, someone made a tiny shower head

>>15713744
The novelty will wear off quickly and you will realize that you have to slave away the rest of your life on a freezing empty hellhole with high radiation and thin atmosphere

>>15713778
Still better than this shit hole planet.

>>15713778
Speak for yourself bozo, I’m going to be living on the moon with my JAXA waifu Ayu Yoneda

>>15713772
cool as fuck
finally someone doing non cucked amateur rocketry
hope he upgrades to htp eventually

>>15713563
>Vulcan vs. New Glenn payloads to GTO and beyond tell a different story.

And those are?

>>15713785
AEIOU

>>15713785
>astronaut :/
>astronaut, japan :O

>>15713719
The audio only view focused only on the first stage this time. Really shows that they aerodynamically fly that first stage back to the pad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-kti4pnVkk

>>15713744
>5000 crazed antisocial loners with wide claims and lots of distance between one another
Based and Solaria pilled

>>15713795
Merlins are amazing. All work no fuss

>>15713778
Good, so long as you're not there to bug me

>>15713642
Test

>>15713744
Consider moving to the outback and living in a hole

>>15713817
Too hot, too much O2, spiders and abbos too

>>15713778
Great, I slaved away on Earth with the rest of you to get there so I better be allowed to have my own place to work. If you hate it so much then dont come with, Mars is full fuck off.

>>15713778
Good, I hope I die too, at least it will have surmounted to something, unlike here where I have to slave away regardless with people all around me that couldn't give a fuck about anything

>>15713787
0 tons and 0 tons, respectively

A good 90% of you fucks arent even serious about getting off this planet. No faustian spirit in so many of you, just rot here while the rest of us carve a path upwards.

>>15713778
That's why I will live in the Tunnels

>>15713831
Speak for yourself faggot
I will get off this rock once martian colonization commences

>>15713836
Just of out of curiosuty what your qualifications? Do you have a degree?

>>15713836
>implying the Jews will allow goyim on the planet of milk and honey

>>15713842
>qualifications
Blue collar worker with technical hobbies

>>15713836
Are you staying in shape and have an actual job that would be needed in the spaceflight sector? If you dont live long you cant buy that ticket there, and you cant go early if you're not healthy enough and have a SpaceX job.

>>15713845
Shouldve just stayed on /pol/, enjoy your vacation.

what qualifications do you need to go to an arctic/antarctic research station? I imagine mars would be stricter versions of mostly the same qualifications

>>15713846
Youre fucked, if youre 35+ you will never leave this rock.

>>15713855
nta but why are most astronauts old ugly and wrinkly then?

Mars will be colonized be hikiNEETs.

Kino

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4YZxb2E5PA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbdxeuI1r7A
Breaking Taps is one of the best /sci/tubers, and he's getting ito rockets now

>>15713737
reminds me of US navy putting chinese ships as their own. the people who make these types of videos probably dont know and dont care if its wrong.

>>15713877
>UN logo
what retard made this?

>>15713891
https://x.com/gravitationinno
These guys judging by the logo in the bottom left.

>>15713891
lots of scififags love the idea of humanity being united under a single globohomo government

>>15713877
It looks stupid, Starship is at its most beautiful when it looks like a child's drawing bolted and welded together out of scrapyard parts (always).

>>15713899
Yeah but the final factory design for the crew variant window is either going to make it break it in terms of aesthetics

>>15713847
you dont need a spaceflight job to colonize mars
you really think that to build humanity 2.0 everyone involved needs to be an aerospace engineer specifically?

>>15713904
Someone on Mars needs to wash the dishes and push a broom

>>15713906
I hate to break it to you, but the guy washing dishes and pushing a broom is going to have a masters in aerospace engineering

>>15713891
>>15713898
seethe & cope

>>15713910
You expect a master aerospace engineer to wash dishes? YOU don't even want to wash dishes, why would he? I'll do it for $12 an hour plus bar tickets

>>15713910
Yeah theyd rather have people that can actually do things and occasionally assign them to dish duty as part of their service. They dont need cheap slave labor there unlike on Earth, some of you who are deluded enough to think you can get there without some serious education in a useful field need to come to terms with the fact that you will NEVER get off this rock. Enjoy the fine arts degree!

>>15713913
just like the job market, entry level positions require a bachelors or some cases a graduate degree because its so competitive to get a job

>>15713913
>$12/hour
lol. lmao even. he actually thinks they will pay some retard to go to mars and push a broom. you should be paying them if you have no worth whatsoever to the colony, and in fact you will be because tickets are gonna cost a whole shit load for TOURISTS like you.
>>15713921
entry level positions would be something like 'starship mechanic' and 'hab builder', so youre not wrong on that front. mars will be basically entirely a meritocracy so if you have nothing to offer like blue collar room temp iq up there then you are just a detriment to the colony, like allot of people are in society. and since its mars, jobs that people would do for cheap some will literally probably go in to indentured servitude to spacex for, remember how most people came to america? i know i would do that shit for free if i was some worthless manlet who has no skills (thankfully im not). aspiring wagies need to get this shit through their thick skulls.

>>15713926
Post disregarded on grounds of being boring and gay

>>15713960
dont say anon didnt warn you, wagie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttzshi01I6E

You just assured me that I could launch

>>15713987
Ahhh yes, I see you know your ESG well

>>15713738
We live in a topia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8iDHNU_LpU

https://twitter.com/CowboyDanPaasch/status/1697941953348854120/photo/1

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

>>15713778
maybe, but you would be making history and will most likely see the colony evolve first hand

>>15714012
things are progressing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZMdO_wjGcw

>>15714018
it's happening, they're going to do it without FAA approval.

>>15714021
the FAA already approved them but isn't going to release the info publicly until T-2 minutes

>>15713978

>>15714033
We are so back

>>15714033

>>15714012
7 DAYS

>>15714038

>>15714041

Ship 25 mods

https://twitter.com/FelixSchlang/status/1698018238490181935

>>15713778
just replace cold with hot lol.
oh no
fucking defeatist demoralizing faggot, kys NOW

>>15714042

happening happening happening happening happening happening happening happening happening happening happening happening happening happening happening happening happening happening happening happening happening happening happening happening happening happening happening happening happening happening happening happening

2 weeks bros… it’s over

>April
May
June
July
August
>September

SpaceX is speed

>>15714053

Today i will remind them.

>>15714059
lmao cuckvan

Chink lander has a lunar rover now, watch out if you’re on the lunar highway

>>15714059
Does this exist in real life?

Holy shit they just epoxied the cracked tiles lmao, this shit is gonna blow up in the upper atmosphere one way or another

>>15714050

wish other companies were hardware rich instead of being cheap bastards

>>15714074

>>15714070
source?

>>15714078
No one else cares, it feels like. They get the sweet sweet taste of that gooberment money before even having launched and they realize they can just run a business model off of that while moving at a turtle’s pace

>>15714067
we will find out if starliner ever gets a crewed mission.

>>15714079
Source for the epoxy/clay TPS fill
https://x.com/rgvaerialphotos/status/1698011840242933796

>>15714090
turns out it is that easy in rocketry

>>15714078
Companies like spaceX are a fluke, take amazon's blue origin for example.
Bezos put people in power at that company who made their carreer by screwing over it's own employees and cutting cost on everything while getting fat paychecks.
You cant to that in a rocket company.

>>15714090
>>15714093
>post yfw it survives reentry intact anyways

>>15714090
stream on now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4godJSji5w

>>15713778
>The novelty will wear off quickly and you will realize that you have to slave away the rest of your life on a freezing empty hellhole with high radiation and thin atmosphere
But enough about alaska

Half a month
A fortnight
Fourteen days
Two weeks

lmao yet more Astra layoffs happening, I'm getting "fug I got axed" messages on stinkedin

everyone, literally everyone: tiles are a mistake
elon: add tiles

>>15714099

>>15714104

>>15714108
what do you suggest? tiles are probably the simplest thing you could do
and not really on the critical path for getting into orbit now

TWO.
MORE.
WEEKS.

>>15713772
can't you get those at Home Depot for your faucet?

>>15714097
I was just lurking a shitty soi website I will not call out by name, and everyone was complaining that Bob Smith just started the classic “you need to be physically in the office even if your job is remote” thing that corpos do when they need to trim fat
Not that I disagree but it’s still funny seeing the cope from zoomers with zero work ethic, who are all trying to quietly suggest everyone go on strike

>>15714111
Just remove the bow ailerons already

>>15714121
They could probably be reduced in size but what the fuck is your autism against them? This is like the eight time you’ve posted this

>>15714108
This is a youtube comment tier post.

nobody, absolutely nobody for 1 trillion miles:

anon: this is a youtube comment tier post

>>15714131
Now THIS is a 4chan tier post.

>>15714124
You can see where the housing joins the hull they've had to use bespoke tiles. This is the first time I've posted, so there's at least one other autist who agrees

>>15714065
*runs over a tardigrade, doesn't stop to see if its injured*

>>15714139
That's awesome

>>15714138
>This is the first time I've posted
Damn hahah it must be an industrial autism thing I guess

>>15714059
gas van

>>15714111
they gotta figure out a fix for this shit and I'm not talking about the tiles

>>15714093
it unironically is. also this is how they make carbon composite, they take the carbon strands and glue them together with epoxy

>>15714142
Its a Tom Clancy idea
https://news.usni.org/2013/10/02/floating-shell-game-tom-clancys-1982-plan-fire-nuclear-weapons-hovercraft

>>15714144
It could be a good opportunity for some materials science fags to create a flexible composite that can survive reentry, it's probably not possible atm though

>>15714153
I think that's for the nanotech guys to come up with carbon-carbon aerogels.

>>15714153
what about the inflatable heatshield.

>>15714153
>flexible composite that can survive reentry
explain why you'd want that. I guess it would make it somewhat easier to apply but once it's on wouldn't you want it to be rigid?

>>15714153
We are in desperate need of some memetech breakthrough that gets us high-temperature metallic TPS that doesn’t way a bajillion pounds across the whole ship. Yes it will still eat into the mass margins even if they are “light weight” (relatively speaking, it is metal after all) but right now it’s looking like the tiles are going to be a long term headache even after they get things like orbit and propellant refill working

>>15714159
the problem with tiles is they're almost too rigid and crack

>>15713778
I would only have to worry about that stuff if i go outside

>>15714159
>explain why you'd want that
You could have a contiguous surface over pivoting joints like the wings

>>15714124
Must be some Freudian shit of them imagining being penetrated by it.

>>15714152
You could put 3 Midgetman missiles on a standard LCAC. They only weigh 14 tons
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MGM-134_Midgetman

>>15714157
ULA is doing something like that but I think its just for the engines
reusing a inflatable starship sized heatshield sounds very difficult

>>15714173
I mean they can just put the fabric on the starship.

>>15714173
>>15714184
Suborbital (and even LEO )TPS is way different than interplanetary TPS. You gotta be beefed up to come back from the Moon or Mars

>>15714191
you just have to be willing to slow down to LEO speeds before reentering.

>>15713651
I figured that was from a large telescope or at least a space based one. Really impressive he is able to get that with his set up

So did >we not care about the sun probe launch?

>>15714194
That’s retarded, aerobreaking is free compared to bringing extra propellant

>>15713846
I just checked the background of the new lunar mission team and they all either have engineering degrees or are military pilots. I'm sorry dude but you're not going to mars

>>15714203
Go check the last thread

>>15714033
And retards here thought that Booster is going back to the production site

>>15713906
That's going to be a tesla bot's job

>>15714228
The colonies will be nu dixie land with robot slaves let’s goooooo

>>15714203
Eventually everyone with space assets needs to have a solar observatory for warnings about space weather

The US runs something like five or six concurrent heliophysics missions that provide that info and have plans for more

>>15714233
>Mason-Dixon Line
>Dixie Land
>Karman Line
>???

>>15714090
>>15714104
The launch must be really close if they didn't have time to replace tiles.

>>15714106
Wish they'd stop dragging out the misery and go bankrupt already. It's just pathetic at this point.

>>15713778
Fuck off KSR, you lack the Faustian spirit.

>>15714261
I swear it's just Kemp keeping the company going so he can use the AWS bill on his personal mastercard (yes really the original cloud infra is in that account) for reward points.

>>15713778
Ok faggot, I'm already lonely, bored, and without purpose here, at least on Mars I will know I'm part of the first human expansion into the galaxy.

what is Chris Kemp like in private?

>>15714301
Practicing Satanism

>>15714048
Why are seething so hard. It's not like you're going there

>>15714307
because your demoralization tactics won't work here cocksucker

I don't want to be the first guy on mars. I don't even want to be first 1000. but around 10,000th would be pretty good I think

>>15714309
Retard

>>15714312
fuck you. i am going to mars. i AM going to mars. i AM going to mars SOON. not only that, but i AM going to a BEAUTIFUL TERAFORMED MARS

>>15714310
1000 or less is perfect. i would fugg so many qt martianas

>>15714301
Kind of a tweaker. I'm pretty sure he was on uppers more often than not at work and I don't mean the espresso machine.

I would be fine with going to the moon, but not Mars. Too far, too deadly. Moon tourism would be so kino, take a week off from work to go there for a day and come back.

Original Starbase is disappearing

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1698045247547212093

>Aiming for 10 Falcon flights in a month by end of this year, then 12 per month next year

>>15714324
it's over

>>15714324
It accomplished it's goal. It was never made to last.

>>15714324
as expected, the goal was to figure out how to build it, which they did, so now they're building the actual factory for starship

>>15714328
delusional

>>15714287
Yeah, no one is going to mistake a space anchorite for an actual colonist.

So according to CSI nigga, SpaceX is making additional Booster stands (at suborbital pad and Massey's) for static fires.
That makes sense for me, because currently they have to do it on the OLM and that causes delays in work since the whole launch site has to be closed.
https://twitter.com/CSI_Starbase/status/1697818104812986381

>>15714334
>>15714336
cope

>>15714344
no

What precautions will there be to protect women from aggressive sexually starved men in the colony?

>>15714356
Castration. Fertilization from the seed vault only.

>>15714356
Mandatory marriage

>>15714356
Elon will provide dedicated rape chambers to keep the birthrate up.

>>15713906
I do pipes

>>15714356
Genetically engineered vagina dentata

>>15713910
lol retard
>>15713914
>college degree
unlike you, I have useful skills

>>15714356
Sorry anon, but this is a couples only colony.

>>15714312
nice one, again, your shit wont work in this thread
I know Im not going, but I can see past my nose unlike you

>>15714373
Robert, my friend! Please just let me passed this one for old times sake? I don't want to be thrown into the lunar manlet pit!

looks good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5yRy8nD1Z4

>>15714356
Moon is a harsh mistress society

>>15713744
>5000 antisocial loners
>when you will need to live like sardines and work for like 16 hours a day in highly cooperative dependent tasks

>>15714356
A police officer will be stationed at the colony

>>15714364
birthing barns

>>15713913
>>15713910
You won't need a masters degree in aerospace engineering, but you're going to need a degree in a useful engineering field, or a lot of experience in a useful trade, like a Master level electrician or welder.

>>15714356
women will not be coming to mars

>>15714153
Or just some better adhesive. These things would be fine if they didn't keep falling off.

>>15713913
Ideally you probably want everyone you send there to be useful in some vital role for the colony's survival. You want spares, shipping replacement parts is expensive and time consuming.

I see we've left the derision stage and have entered the bargaining stage on Lunar/Martian colonization.

>>15714403
We'll need artificial wombs then.

>>15714371
>doesnt even name them
Any retard can weld a pipe together you are not special.

>>15714413
Mars is a great long term goal, but we need actual infrastructure on and around the moon first. I've been watching the original Gundam shows, they focus mostly around cislunar space and earth, and that seems the most plausible for the foreseeable future. I don't want osteoporosis either, so spinning cylinders are a must.

an anon suggested that as someone with only legal experience, I could draft the Martian Constitution. I might get started just for shits

>>15714356
Neuralink controlled Pon Farr. For a few of you, this will mean much less sex. For most, much much more.

>>15714418
in artifical bodies
what do you think optimus is for?

>>15714430
cant get less than 0

>>15713642
Astronomy is spiritually equivalent to the manned flyby: looking (passively, read: gayly) instead of doing

>>15714434
Try not to tempt fate, friend.

>>15714431
Freedom

ISRO just did it again, they shamed every other agency by conquering the Sun just a few days after conquering the Moon.

>>15714436
This post: useless and gay

>>15714441
robots are for loving

>>15713734
Good! They're just increasing the demand for labor on Mars. There will be more bodies to recycle and fewer people to sludgify them. Plus they'll subsidize the costs of colonization for the rest of us by helping to recover the development and infrastructure costs of Starship, the Mars transporter version of Starship and the colony itself.

It just means it will cost me less to go to Mars, go crazy and then kill myself.

>>15714445

>>15713778
No one tell him about life on Earth.

Don't forget to vote on SN9 launch date

https://strawpoll.com/eJnvv2vmMnv/
https://strawpoll.com/eJnvv2vmMnv/
https://strawpoll.com/eJnvv2vmMnv/

>>15713787
The beauty and grandeur of space, and being able to say you were the first human in all history to accomplish something or go somewhere--all entirely within your own imagination.

>>15714390
You mean Space Marshal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYTJWo8WBrk

>>15714442
US went from no manned spaceflight capability to man on the moon in 8 years.
Assuming Gaganyaan first carries crew in 2025, can india land a man on the moon in 2033?

>>15713906
By that argument there would be unskilled workers doing cleaning and routine maintenance on the ISS.
>Isn't it already full of foreigns?
Touché

>>15713913
They're going to send people with qualifications in two or more essential fields and experience in space, then pad out the rest with engineers and doctors.

>>15714033
Its not launching. Ever. Mark my words, CSS and ESGHound will take it out with an ATGM if they have to.

>>15714059
I understand why they built the van, but is it really necessary to keep the crew in the van 24/7 until Starliner is ready for their flight?

>>15714465
Thanks for reminding me I need to watch this

>>15714113
Transpiration sounds great, so it's probably garbage in practice

>>15714425
Nope. The entire operation is going to be run by SpaceX which means its a corporation. This is like having the East India Company colonizing an undiscovered area, they are unlikely to draft a constitution.

>>15714139
*runs over a tardigrade*
*mission now has surplus food*
FTFY

>>15714165
The wrinkles in the material near joints will surely hold up fine during launch and reentry

>>15714484
Don't let any autism about Io's radiation level get in the way of enjoyment

>>15714466
Probably not. Apollo had the kind of funding ISRO can only dream of. India has clearly said that they want to but it's going to have to wait at least until after they have larger launch vehicles. They'll get their crew capsule working first, then manage crew on a small station for a few years, and THEN probably start thinking about the moon. But they are thinking about it. It'll just be late 2030s, at the earliest, if they go with a completely domestic program.

>>15714493
they still need rules

>>15714507
>>>/lit/sffg
Now go back

>>15714055
remember, a lot of people were saying right after the launch spacex wouldnt launch again until mid-late 2024

>>15714519
They underestimated SpaceX's drive

>>15714517

What is the ideal sex ratio for Martian colonization?

So long as Mars has sperm banks, men won't be needed for human reproduction proper. On the other hand it may be difficult to find enough skilled workers in some fields without employing men.

Assuming the problem was solved for first generation Martians, would it be necessary to select the sex of embryos for the second generation, or could the ideal ratio be maintained by allowing only female immigrants from Earth in the second and subsequent generations?

Anecdotal evidence suggests that a sufficiently high percentage of females will lead to social problems, but is this true, and if so will it be possible to mitigate?

>>15714341
At least ill actually be useful since im studying for an engineering degree and not an economics or philosophy degree like you probably got, faggot

>>15714356
50 : 1 female to male ratio
you can't rape the willing

>>15714356
Lewd Optimus will be make women obsolete.

>>15714390
Also, no blacks

>>15714324
the original highbay is coming down next. they need the space for another mega bay

>>15714425
Do it!

https://x.com/csi_starbase/status/1697818104812986381
We'll be eating good soon bros.

>>15714539
Do NOT stick your wiener in a Michael Bay transformer. Meat grinders have few spinning metal blades.

>>15714540
Good. More megabays means more Starship production which means more launches.

>>15714403
Uhh based

Impressive

>>15714548

So since we're probably getting 3 starship flights this year, how many do you think we will get in 2024?

>>15714568
300

>>15714459
February 2

https://images.nasa.gov/details/KSC-20230826-MH-AJN01-0001-SpaceX_Crew_7_Isolated_Launch_and_Landing_Views

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/new-technology-aims-to-put-a-whole-new-spin-on-space-travel/
New technology aims to put a whole new SPIN on space travel. Get it? Hahahaha

>>15714328
Based, but also every bump to Falcon launch cadence is a sign of Starship lagging, since Falcon wasn't supposed to still be launching Starlink by now.

>15714423
>gundamshit
>plausible
>we need to x before y!!!
>pearl clutching about health in space
spincels are so pathetic.

>>15714561
I wonder if 2024 or 2025 will be the peak year of the Falcon 9/Falcon Heavy family in terms of launches. It'd be cool if they managed to get in 150-200 Falcon 9 launches in 2025 before starting to drastically reduce the number of Falcon 9 launches for good.
>>15714568
5-10, depending on how quickly they get the first Florida launch site ready

>>15714459
Currently roughly 75% of those polled predict a launch in September of 2023, and 25% predict a launch in October of 2023.

>>15714581
>>15714577
>>15714574
>>15714583

Kino find

>>15714328
Someone stop him?

>>15714576
In the past year they built... a fancy gate... wow
I thought we moved past this meme

>>15714459
baka

How big is the incoming cash flow for starlink now? Must be in the hundreds of millions by this point. How the fuck did people think it wasn't going to be lucrative?

>>15714598
Elon thought (or at least pretended to think) that it wasn't going to be lucrative without starship operational.

>>15714561
>MY rocket team

She has done nothing but deepthroat cock. God I fixing hate women.

>>15714598
Everybody knew that the potential market for starlink is huge and that it'd be raking in money if they could do it, but they thought it would need Starship first and that put more risk on it. Turns out F9 program just went into overdrive and they probably don't even need Starship.

>>15713778
>He's never heard of Alaska

>>15714576
I wish journalism would stop stealing so many geniuses from the hard sciences.

>>15714627
Mars has less axial tilt than Earth so unlike Alaska there's no sunless winter problem.

>>15714637
>namefag
uh oh, stinky

>>15714627
On the job fatality rates will be much higher in Alaska

>>15714239
I’ll take my stand in karmie land

What if we just make Phobos and Deimos into giant mining colonies for materials to make more orbital stations around Mars. Have the colony literally dig through the entire asteroid.

>>15714624
To really maximize Starlink they'll still need Starship. Boosting Falcon 9's flight rate through the roof will help drop costs somewhat, but we're already well into the territory of diminishing returns.

>>15714582
If I recall correctly, current record for LC-39A turnaround is 4 days so if they keep it up for a whole year, you get 91 launches from that site alone. And then there is also SLC-40 and Vandenberg. If you apply the same turnaround rate to the rest, you get 273 launches. At least that's the theory, but the peak of their launch rate may soon be hit.
Now I wonder how it will look for Starship, because for now it has only 1 operational launch site (Starbase), 1 in construction (LC-39A) and 1 in planning stage, which is LC-49. Starbase for now has only one pad, can get another one in a few years, LC-39A is already maxed but LC-49 to accomodate at least 2 pads. However, that's very far away, considering that they haven't even finished LC-39A and there is not much progress there for now.
In case of Starbase, current launch rate is limited by ongoing modifications, construction works, static tests, but these are temporary. The current bottleneck is the tank capacity. Last time I read they have enough methane for 1.5 launches and you need a lot of trucks to refill the tank farm.

>>15714660
>LC-49
They really should go for it and name it 39C, then when SLS gets canned Starship can launch from 39A, B, and C

>>15714660
>not even mentioning regulatory constraints
hi elon.

>>15714669
they've already dealt with the regulatory constraints required for lc-49 and lc-39a (for the most part).
getting the ability to do more launches from starbase will be the hard part, but i'm confident they can eventually get the cap raised to something like 50 or higher. it might require an EIS and take until around 2028-2030 though.

>>15714482
Wouldn't you try to flee too if you were assigned to a Starliner mission?

>>15714660
They cannot find enough payloads to launch 273 times in one year

>>15714680
How about Starlink?

>>15714611
>if your team pushes ahead of schedule, all of you get a blowjob from Jessie
Seems like she's doing essential work to motivate the teams.

>>15714680
Transporter cancelled. Each payload gets a dedicated mission.

>>15714682
By the time Falcon 9 could launch 273 times in a year (2026 at this rate), Starship will have entirely taken over starlink launches

>>15714682
They’re currently building what, 60-70 launches worth of starlink sats a year? I assume they aren’t sitting on a 3 year stockpile, and I doubt they can quadruple production in the next few years.

>>15714680
kuiper and DoD constellation.

what is safer:
>manned starliner mission
>manned starlink mission
?

>>15714694
I want to be the guy who frisbees the starlinks out of the slot in starship

>>15714694
I take the 200/200 success or whatever rocket.
seriously it's sort of insane, SpaceX has landed more stages successfully consecutively than the best success streak of launches in general of any other rocket

>>15714695
based space disc golfer

>>15714660
If they try to push for more than something like 75 launches per year the limiting factors are going to be drone ship travel times and number of launch days that aren't fouled by inclement weather.

>>15714710
they could probably start pushing limits with weather 2bh

>>15714710
Unless it's a hurricane or a storm, weather is a nothingberger.

>>15714689
>and I doubt they can quadruple production in the next few years.
see that's where you're wrong

>>15714717
I thinbk they did on last starlink launch cause they wanted it outof the way to start tower installation on slc49

>>15714654
Phobos mass is ~10 000 billion tons. That would make quite a lot of stations.
But yeah, I can't imagine people not wanting to mine it once it's feasible
Imagine if we had a moon like that in Earth orbit.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1698044026262286398

>>15714721
I can't wait until they launch Starships during a storm

>>15714660
I imagine they've revisited putting a pipeline out there multiple times but because the launch rate out of Boca Chica is not a priority they've never proposed it

Out at KSC however they're tied into the local natural gas pipelines and can eventually refine the methane locally

Incoming blogpost: I think at my stage in life and work xp, the best way for me to get into the space industry would be becoming a patent attorney. I gotta do something
too stupid for math and not good enough with building shit for engineering, but I can read, write, and research fairly well. Im gonna do it.

>>15714737
Oh yeah and I found this while I was looking up KSC's pipeline hookups

KSC ground support staff do not like having to work with liquid hydrogen lol. Bonus for SpaceX though, since they currently refine hydrogen from methane already, they just have to skip that step for Starship
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/20110008624/downloads/20110008624.pdf?attachment=true

>>15714739
https://www.nasa.gov/offices/ogc/index.html

>>15714754
ty anon

>>15714675
Yes

>>15714739
Have you considered joining Elon's ruthless lawyer squad he was tweeting about?

>>15714783
No, lawyers are scum.

>>15714783
yeah, just need experience in anything other than family law. I hate it so much but it's all I have.
>>15714792
not all. My bosses are just regular guys that happen to also be attorneys. Just like any profession.

5 days before launch...

>>15714529
1:1, as The Lord intended

>Per @Astro_Woody's video on the @Space_Station exercise bicycle, here is my vibration remedy. My sock modification got approval from @NASA engineering and became a permanent part of the bicycle structure
>In 2008, as STS-126 crew, I took this photo of my well traveled socks.

>>15714828
imagine the fucking smell

>>15714420
yeah but it's going to take months to train your retard, while I already know how to do this shit

IT'S RIGHT

THERE

>>15714917
TIPPY-TIPPY-TAY LIKE A GAY TARANTELLA

Propellant is stored in the balls.
Also two weeks HAHAHAHA

>suspicious white van again
OH N-

>>15714834
They've got mystery mold on the station

I've heard reports the station smells. I hope future ones fix the mold growth problem

We're whalers on the moon

We're Jews in space
Protecting the Hebrew race

>>15714938

>>15714533
And on Mars since the gender imbalance will be so bad there that you'll get a complementary pleasure Tesla bot.

>>15714356
It'll probably end up like this but worse
https://www.whig.com/ap/business/women-working-in-antarctica-say-they-were-left-to-fend-for-themselves-against-sexual-harassers/article_d11fc34c-88b1-5803-a9f1-aa2eead4fef3.html

Let me play among the stars

>>15714951
Is there a better recording of it than that one on youtube?

>>15714963
I don't want that. I'm not one to embrace hedonism.

would /sfg/ volunteer to go to an antarctic research base or long term deep subterranean outpost, or is it just mars?

>>15714985
bro I did like 5 interviews to work at the South Pole last month. got to the final round. Wasn't selected :(

>>15714988
Aw man, I remember you posting about that
condolences

>>15714985
>>15714988
I keep trying to do this, it's super exclusive. Basically unless you've already published on the exact thing you're trying to do you have no chance.

>>15714985
As a tourist or worker?

>>15714985
Just Mars. I hate this rock.

>>15714934
Just air it out every now and then

>>15714988
What job were you going for?

>>15714993
Even for a fork lift driver?

Autistic SpaceX welder at Boca Chica fired for stealing from other employees wants his job back. Has some pretty compelling proof that he's legit. (reverse image searched, and he's the only source of this image)

https://twitter.com/etusk2023/status/1698022529552495038

>>15715016
froyo thief redemption arc when

>>15715016
>multiple per motions

>>15715016
Stepped out of line when he had something great going. I have no empathy for him, I would kill to work at Starbase and he just throws it all away over some fucking glasses.

>>15714579
Manlets with dense bones will be the ubermensch, and Gundam is kino, nigger.

>>15715034
Go back to >>>/a/, or >>>/pol/. I dont care which just stop shitting up this board.

>>15714328
10 sounds doable with some process refinements (I've pegged the max with current infrastructure at ~100/a, i.e. 8, for a while, but that's somewhat conservative so I could see 10), but 12 seems tough without more droneships or RTLS, dunno how long a recovery cycle takes for the fleet but I'm pretty sure it's a couple days in either direction, it'd have to be a week max to work. Also Vandy and 39A need to step it up for 12 or even 10 to be possible, 40 is pretty much at its max allowance unless that changed.

>>15715016
Found his facebook. seems like a good guy. Really dumb move stealing the glasses though, there must have been some prior reason

>>15715040
Hey, I'm only saying we shouldn't run before we learn how to walk. You're the one who sounds like the midwit here.

>>15714104
>>15714100
>>15714090
>>15714070
i wonder what NASA is thinking right now

>>15715054
Unfortunately, 80-90% of the wagies are getting let go one day once everything gets more automated

>>15714988
>>15714993
u jelly?

>>15714343
I'm not feeling the flame trenches he believes they'll build for these because either water table or endless soil surcharge autism (leaving aside possible regulatory issues), so I'm not so sure about that but he seems pretty confident and I think he has a pretty good track record. We'll see.

>>15715069
>being down here sucks, this inspires me to design the space shuttle

>>15715074
>which also sucks and has stubby penguin wings

What if paleontology ever ends up being an important job for space research?

>>15714519
some people were saying that even before OFT-1...

>>15715054
hahaha that bit about him finding "Elon Tusk" from Rick and Morty funny so he's using it as the name of the Twitter account he created to ask for his job at SpaceX back just gets me IDK why

>>15715077

>>15715083
>esghound
>person

>Right now NASA schedules put launch of Artemis IV no earlier than September 2028.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>15715097
They kind of need the entirety of Starship launched, refueled and in lunar orbit before they can start

>>15715098
Bitch this is about EUS and ML-2 which are 1000% gonna be delayed and NASA knows it

>>15715101
And the suits, can't forget about those

>>15715097
it fits the current "every two years" cadence
and will still be delayed further

>>15715103
>Someone at NASA is seriously considering digging the Apollo suits out of storage

>>15715016
>I should’ve just spoke up I needed a pair I just didn’t wanna be the guy to make them drive back to slow work down

>>15714576
spinlaunch is the most baffling shit ever, I seriously can't imagine any sane engineer doing even the simplest napkin math for it and concluding 'yea seems reasonable.' 10,000G shock loads? Worlds largest vacuum chamber suffering a rupture BY DESIGN? counterweights being released at mach 7 and crashing into some crumple structure inside the chamber, and then not destroying everything? fucking 2-stage pressure fed micro rocket autism, only being able to put a few tiny cubesats into orbit, in a world where rocketlab exists, let alone falcon 9, let alone the looming threat of starship rideshares for the price of a used economy car???

>>15714598
cash flow before expenses or tax is likely already $1bn+ yearly, they've already got over 1.5 million users paying an average of something like $80/mo when you factor in lower prices for 3rd worlders.
>>15714624 V2 minis were supposed to be a no-starship cope, but they ended up being insanely OP. Like >>15714655 says, Starship is still going to be the real lynchpin of starlink dominance. Aren't full fat V2s supposed to be something like 8-10x the bandwidth?

>>15715007
>mystery mold is now vacuum resistant and has colonized the outside of the station as well
>next step: the cowboy bebop episode where sentient refridgerator mold terrorizes everyone on the ship

>>15715040
>he doesn't even know /m/ exists
I hope you're the type who only comes to 4chan to post in /sfg/ and doesn't cross board at all (that's by no means a bad thing btw); otherwise you're woefully ignorant of board culture and have no right to criticize on-topic posts that uphold the original reason for this site even existing. But who am I kidding, you come im here and complain about other anons without contributing anything meaningful, you're clearly the anti-anime schizo.

>>15714660
Current cap for each pad is ~50/a I think
Are they even still working on 49? I never got any news that they even moved beyond preliminary scoping and that was what, a year ago?

>>15715016
How the fuck do you get fired over some glasses?

>>15714596
oops I meant B9

On Mars petty thieves will just get their hands cut off. After the first time nobody will step out of line ever again.

>>15715108

>>15713863
You and what internet connection?

>>15715120
>V2 minis were supposed to be a no-starship cope, but they ended up being insanely OP
In what way? V2 mini launches only get about 1.5x as much bandwidth capacity to orbit as V1-based ones. Full V2s are supposed to be about 10x the bandwidth of V1, but they're also 4-5x the mass, so bandwidth per kg is only 2x. Of course much more capacity per satellite is good for the throughput of the system to the end user (more bandwidth per cell), but in terms of what you get per launch it's not actually that much more.

>>15715016
I guarantee that the glasses were just the straw that broke the camels back, fucking NOBODY gets fired over such petty shit in ANY industry.
They were already looking for an excuse to fire this spergs ass and he finally gave them one.

>>15714539
Too bland. I want a more exotic robo waifu.

The hands get staked to the fence surrounding the colony perimeter.

>>15715168
just stick your dick in a toaster

>>15714356
>>15714967
I remember reading something about a british colony in a random tiny island that had a lot of child abuse

>>15714356
tesla bots are being developed for a reason

>>15715168
I'm sure you can get your Optimus in a variety of different models

>>15715193
based

>>15715193
I'm more of a blue bird guy than a blue fox guy.

>>15715158
V2 minis have inter-sat laser comms, which drastically reduces the load on ground stations; V1s could only do starlink dish > sat > ground station and back, but they couldn't go sat-to-sat. less bouncing to ground stations means more of the ground station bandwidth can be used for actual traffic, instead of as glorified repeaters
the laser link is by far the most important part, v2 minis could effectively be the entire starlink backbone and they'd just need to launch ~5x as many, but v1 was actual dog-ass

There wouldn't be any thieves because it will only be whites up there

>>15715251
You've never lived around white-trash, eh? I have, they're thieving bastards.

>>15715251
i see you've never been around morally bankrupt normies

>>15715233
V1.5 already had ISLL though, it's not new for V2.

Bros I just rewatched IFT-1 with the same music I had then, it was Hans Zimmer's Interstellar - Mountains piece synced up perfectly for when it launched just like I tried to do then (thanks countdown halts). It was emotional to say the least and yes I know I sound like a total gaywad but I dont give two fucks. Im so hyped for IFT-2, I really hope its a clean launch and we make it to stage separation.
Btw if you want to experience what I did, https://youtu.be/o_Ay_iDRAbc?si=YEq7VcF5xykM_6Fx start this track at 43:00 of the official SpaceX livestream https://www.youtube.com/live/-1wcilQ58hI?si=PsgilOzlayXeRStw here. Trust me if you havent rewatched it since this is a good experience.

>>15715262
they did?
>started testing ~11mo ago
wtf, they did. I had no idea.

>>15714328
So probably wont hit 100, but anywhere between 90-96 excluding Starship flights

>>15715291
it'll probably break the current record though. who has that
>oh, it's falcon from last year

>>15715279
The majority of Starlinks up in orbit are V1.5 btw

>>15715296
Which record? I think single version or something specific was broken by F9 last year, so yeah, but IIRC single rocket or family is 84 or so (will probably be broken this year) and single entity is also still the Ruskies somewhat over 100

>>15715302
what records hasn't f9 broken? although I was talking about most launches of the same model of rocket in 1 year

>>15715303
Yes, that's what I meant. Single model in a year was broken by F9, but single rocket family is still Baseduz/R-7 at I think 84 and just most launches by a single entity somewhere above 100 I think. Falcon's definitely coming for those quickly as well, though.

>>15715314
the real shame is that FH contributes nothing to the "most launches by a family/entity" stats because it only launches at a rate that would be reasonable for any other rocket family

>>15715314
>Baseduz
every fucking time

>>15715277
Speaking of, could you fellas give me some songs to use for IFT-2? Something like Mountains that has a build up to something just hair raisingly tremendous that would feel at home with the launch.

>>15715336
>>/sci/thread/14987772#p14989475
I always go for the Apollo 13 one

>>15714825
The good Lord put man on Earth, but Elon will put man (women?) on Mars. Elon has employed artificial insemination several times to get high offspring count from multiple women.

Imagine you're a billionaire building a colony on a new planet. You wouldn't want the place to be a total sausagefest, right?

>>15714934
They're transplanting modules from ISS to new space stations to protect and proliferate these precious molds and bacteria.

>>15715189
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Pitcairn_Islands_sexual_assault_trial

>>15715348
What are they? Death Guard chaos marines?

>>15715341
Personally dont like it, but I somehow completely forgot about the docking scene from Interstellar (dont ask me how) so I think I'm actually gonna go with that since I just saw it in that exact post lol. Many thanks anon, found my song.

>>15715336
here play this with rougly 40 seconds left on the countdown
https://youtu.be/s3-l_T6AuNk
by my calculations it should explode during the guitar solo

>>15714356
>What precautions will there be to protect women from aggressive sexually starved men in the colony?
there will be plenty of femtype guys going too

>>15715357
and how do you stop them from getting raped?

>>15715357
very little, they wont be psychologically fit for long term space travel

how good of a university is embry-riddle for aerospace?

>>15715359
stop?

>>15715359

>>15715354
No problem.
I'm thinking about using some music from Star Wars or Star Trek I like, but there is always the option of saying screw it and sync it to Free Bird

>>15715359
there will be plenty for marriage and plenty for sex

>>15715359
stop them?

>>15715336
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjyqg97lj3w

mars is gonna be space rome it seems

>>15715372
i thought that was greece

>>15715371
Anon, you just gave me music to kill myself to.

>>15715375
I like the piece though, just doesnt fit a triumphant launch with build up to a pivotal moment that I'm looking for. I will use this if the pad gets blown to smithereens though.

I hope Musk makes Mars a no gay zone just so you disgusting faggots aren't there

>>15715371
Perfect

>>15715377
Numbers of truth. All fags will get the airlock on Mars. Fags can go to Venus

>>15715377
elon, why'd you bring me to a gay mars colony?

For Martian criminals, I propose Phobos be made in to a penal colony for the earlier recommended mining operations, and it will be men only. Deimos will be the same but women only, and anyone who calls them anything other than those two gets the airlock.

>>15714356
none

>>15715386
I still don't know why "civilized" societies don't execute all criminals above the age of 14 or so, excepting some crimes of passion.
There's never any legitimate excuse for, say, theft. Even if someone is poor enough to need to steal in order to survive then (1) it's their own fault for being a failure, and (2) society loses nothing from them being executed. A proper death penalty scheme hasn't ever been implemented. Even in 18th century Britain when stealing could get you executed they almost always commuted the sentence (i.e. clemency in exchange for naval service), which the thieves obviously knew.

>>15715397
Recidivism isn't 100% my dude

Killing jaywalkers isn't going to solve crime

>>15715398
exactly, see now the batman stuff gets it right
>can't jaywalk if both your legs are shattered

>>15715397
The reason it wont be possible on Mars is because SpaceX would face serious legal repurcusions on Earth if not worse consequences. Its not a full remake of society you still very much so need constant shipping of supplies out to Mars so even if SpaceX were to completely leave Earth, the sanctions Mars would face could cause the total collapse of the colony. As such they still need to follow Earth ideals in things like law and order, so you will have to put up with penal colonies. Criminals certainly cant be kept in the colony as they would simply be even more of a detriment and hazard than they are to Earth societies so I think penal colonies will be a good inbetween, sending them back to Earth would not look good for an administration either because then sovereignty of SpaceX comes in to question as they just detained a person even though theyre not a legal entity, but it was in legal high seas due to the 1967 Outer Space Treaty... its a legal nightmare basically.

Politics and law are both such messes since every country on the planet has collectively agreed to not open the can of worms. This is even more reason for why they wont let random wagie schmucks in the colony, they would ruin everything.

>>15715336
this doesn't really have the long and slow build up that you're looking for, but I feel like it fits perfectly with the ethos of IFT-1
Every time I think of superheavy down several engines while on fire with shit exploding and whole chunks falling off but still doggedly ascending, this pops into my head; it's got just the perfect amount of drive and superlative amounts of hype
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78ACezZ_HzM
a trigger warning to all you ultra sensitive special snowflake turbo weenies: this is anime, and it has japanese people singing. If you cannot tolerate that, then [spoiler]you do not belong on 4chan[/spoiler(I know they don't work)] don't watch it.

>>15715421
>2016 was 7 years ago
what the fuck

>>15715410
eventually there will be colonies on mars that rely on pre-existing colonies for trade and resources that won't be so reliant on earth based rules.

>>15715437
remember even though spacex is the fastest, doesnt mean they are the only ones eyeing mars. if you cut off communications/trade with the us, nasa will still eventually be able to get there and may try to take control of the colony. china will 100% just kill the leaders and enslave all others, its better to just have friendly if not a vassal state to the us just for the security that comes with it, as much as i hate to say it.