/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15711190

https://twitter.com/StarshipGazer/status/1697368815808512106

https://www.space.com/india-aditya-l1-solar-probe-launch-livestream-science

16h until stream start

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IcgGYZTXQw

Well shit. If anyone missed my question last thread, I’ll sort of repeat it here. What type of explosive is used on Starship? C-4? Or something similar? I wonder if it’s in-house (probably not) but where the fuck do you purchase FTS explosives from anyways?

https://spacenews.com/tiangong-space-station-could-alter-perceptions-of-chinas-space-program-report-says/

> HELSINKI — Emerging trends in how China is utilizing and operating its Tiangong space station could impact how the country’s space program is viewed internationally.

> “The People’s Liberation Army’s (PLA’s) intention to allow civilian astronauts and nonstate-owned enterprise (SOE) companies to participate in the Chinese Space Station (CSS) are two trends that will probably change the global image of the Chinese space program,” according to a report from the Department of the Air Force’s China Aerospace Studies Institute (CASI), published Aug. 28.

> “The decision’s impact on global perception, together with ongoing international astronaut selection, seems very likely to improve the PRC standing at least in its joint program with the United Nations, if not also with existing astronaut programs,” the report read.

> “A Chinese space program that starts to look more like other advanced programs with varied participation will propel plans the PRC has already put in place to include developed and developing countries in the CSS and the International Lunar Research Station.”This could also generate a response outside China, with Tiangong seen as a competitor to commercial ventures engaged in the ISS. At the same time both China and the U.S. are seeking to gain partners and support for their respective ILRS and Artemis lunar programs.

>>15711217
2 weeks

https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/09/rocket-report-firefly-enters-hot-standby-phase-spacexs-superfluity-of-fairings/

Small Rockets
> Firefly says "hot standby phase" has begun for next Alpha launch
> How did Virgin Galactic reach a higher flight cadence?
> Rocket Lab seeks to reuse nine engines.
> Date set for penultimate Vega launch.
> Astra's acquisition of engine company was not smooth
> Changing nature of rideshare industry.

Medium Rockets
> Crew-7 successfully launches on Falcon 9.
> Atlas V launch delayed by Hurricane Idalia
> Ariane 6 short hot fire test delayed.
> Here's why SpaceX gave up on catching fairings.

Heavy Rockets
> SpaceX completes Super Heavy hot fire test.

>>15711214
Two weeks is close to the time it took the last time explosives arrived.

The majestic Artemis I mission, footage compiled by me.

>>15711223
China has sent up multiple crewed and cargo vehicles to tiangong, yet I have NEVER found a full photo of the station in space. If you want to see tiangong in full it’s either a CGI or physical model mock-up
Not saying it’s fake or anything lmao. It’s just annoying that they don’t seem to care to actually photograph their one station. (Or maybe the photos *do* exist, but they just aren’t proliferated in the West. But you’d think they would make their way here eventually)
Generic photo for comparison, you can find tons of shots lots like for Skylab, Mir, and ISS.

RTLS launch in 30 minutes! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBeJVN-0t2I

>>15711234
I HATE SLS
However…

>>15711236
I just looked for one too, you're right. I guess it's just hard to get pics in their Soyuz clone

>>15711236

>>15711236
why dont the bottom panels also face the sun

>>15711240
>>15711245
Great, we have one (1) shitty image lmao
I guess a focus on photography is just an American thing. It’s not really a science objective and is more just for general entertainment. There aren’t really full-photos of Mir before America got involved. And, to my knowledge, the soviets never cared to do a full portrait of any of their Salyut stations. This is the best Salyut photo I’ve found to date

>>15711234
Very nice. Only improvement would be using the film footage not the digital, but it's still very nice.

>>15711248
>I guess a focus on photography is just an American thing
what's funny is how hard zhurong went on the photos. it went so far as to have multiple selfie cameras that got thrown away at different stages of the mission, but they can't take 1 lousy photo of tiangong on approach

the fuck are they doing right now next to the OLM?

>>15711252
Analog film is king, baby. It looks so crisp and clean and gives a “vibe” (not sure how else to describe it) that simply cannot be replicated by digital

>>15711257
I hate how a lot of 60s-90s space photos were digitized shittily in like 2002, especially soviet. We need to re-do those

>>15711254

>>15711248
You would think it would be a great propaganda tool/inspirational.

>>15711279
would ITS there actually attract to ISS? gravitational drift?

>>15711281
Regardless of that I’m pretty sure ISS has a docking mass maximum and even if you forced some sort of berthing, gravitational forces on the huge mass differences would just snap your docking port like a pencil
Which makes me wonder how the hell they plan to park HLS Moonship to gateway

>>15711293
>gravitational forces on the huge mass differences would just snap your docking port like a pencil
The absolute fucking state of /sfg/. You shouldn't be allowed to post here unless you've passed highschool physics.

Falcon 9 postponed again. Last time was for engine issues. Not routine. Space is hard. This is why we test. Scrubs not ruds.

>>15711252
Where are these? NASA's media resources suck. Maybe it's mission dependent, I have no problem finding photos of Mars but raw SLS video seems scarce.
>>15711309
I'm watching this now, any updates on why? B1063 is pretty old, I wonder if they're running up against the edges of Falcon 9 reusability.

>>15711313
Some random guy submitted a FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) request and NASA uploaded them. It's all in NASA's archive shit. Learned about it from this youtuber: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl5yQ6RX_eE

Artemis I Launch From the Mobile Launcher Deck, High Speed Film
https://images.nasa.gov/details/KSC-2......

Artemis I Launch Pad Cameras - High Speed Cameras
https://images.nasa.gov/details/KSC-2......

High Speed film footage - Pad Perimeter
https://images.nasa.gov/details/KSC-2......

MARS Tracking
https://images.nasa.gov/details/KSC-2......

Film Tracking
https://images.nasa.gov/details/KSC-2......

Artemis I Launch Mobile Launch Tower - High Speed Film
https://images.nasa.gov/details/KSC-2......

You can find a lot of stuff here if you search around.

>>15711313
Some random guy submitted a FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) request and NASA uploaded them. It's all in NASA's archive shit. Learned about it from this youtuber: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl5yQ6RX_eE [Embed]

Artemis I Launch From the Mobile Launcher Deck, High Speed Film
https://images.nasa.gov/details/KSC-20221116-MH-GEB01-High_Speed_Film_Artemis_I_ML_Tower_WON-3327395

Artemis I Launch Pad Cameras - High Speed Cameras
https://images.nasa.gov/details/KSC-20221116-MH-GEB01-High_Speed_Film_Artemis_I-Tracking_Cameras_WON-3327398

High Speed film footage - Pad Perimeter
https://images.nasa.gov/details/KSC-20221116-MH-GEB01-High_Speed_Film_Artemis_I_Launch_MARS_WON_3327333

MARS Tracking
https://images.nasa.gov/details/KSC-20221116-MH-GEB01-High_Speed_Film_Artemis_I_Perimeter_Cameras_WON-3327397

Film Tracking
https://images.nasa.gov/details/KSC-20221116-MH-GEB01-High_Speed_Film_Artemis_I_Pad_Cameras_WON-3327396

Artemis I Launch Mobile Launch Tower - High Speed Film
https://images.nasa.gov/details/KSC-20230317-MH-GEB01-High_Speed_Film_Artemis_I-ML_Deck_WON-3327394

You can find a lot of stuff here if you search around.

>>15711335
At least you fixed the links but forgot
>(embed) [Embed]

>>15711335

>>15711336
can't win them all

>>15711335
>Some random guy submitted a FOIA request
Dangerously based
>images.nasa.gov
I was just there, I guess I just suck at searching. These are great, thanks anon.

>Tim Dodd gets interviews with Boeing, SpaceX, RocketLab and more
>Scott Manley gets RocketLab interview
>Brian from Real Engineering only gets interview with fucking SpinLaunch
Why is he such a failure? He has 4x the subs and a content network behind him.

>>15711340
at least an attempt was made

>>15711335

>>15711223
Why do these always start with HELSINKI

>>15711346
>I guess I just suck at searching
No, the site is complete ass. You are best clicking through tags and hoping you find what you are looking for then using search. 95% of the stuff is pictures of people sitting around or politicians giving speeches no one remembers.

>>15711357
Author lives there.

>>15711306
Okay, but what if you never had high school physics but failed university physics? I need a consensus

Falcon blew up with Amos-6 seven years ago today

>>15711253
>multiple selfie cameras that got thrown away at different stages of the mission
If you listen carefully you can hear the mass goblins at JPL screaming in agony at this stupid waste of mission mass

>>15711335
anyone notice the space community in particular are filled with (based) autists like this?

>>15711373
Yeah it’s sort of an autistic hobby by nature whether you work in the field or just appreciate it as a spectator

>>15711221
I'm sure I'm on a list for looking this up, but there's a short list of explosives you can use in a FTS, and none of them are C-4. Since rockets are generally considered explosive by themselves they don't need an explosive to destroy it but only to trigger an explosion, and it has to be done fast (the maximum delay of a FTS before working is 250ms). The list is on MIL-STD-1316 if you're curious. It's a bunch of plastic explosive for sure though.

>>15711370
I still think about these fucking wheels from time to time.

>>15711377
I think Scott Manley mentioned it in a video, but they're basic off the shelf shaped charges, you buy them in strips and basically cut to length. It's more complicated than that but that's the gist of it. I think it was in the Starship FTS failure video.

>Thank you for your Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request dated January 20, 2013, and received January 22, 2013, at the NASA Headquarters FOIA Office. Your request was for:
>a copy of the FOIA case log for the calendar year 2012.

>The NASA Headquarters program office(s) conducted a search for Agency records. Attached is the responsive document for your request. Fees for processing this request are less than $15.00 and are not being charged in accordance with 14 CFR § 1206.700(i)(2), therefore, your request for Media Status is Moot.

(file too big): https://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/foia/13-HQ-F-00285.pdf

Why are we not doing this en-mass?

>>15711382
THIS IS AMAZING

>I request a copy or printout of the YouTube Creator's Page for
each of the two primary NASA Headquarters YouTube
account/channels (those are entitled NASA and NASA Video).
Specifically, I request a listing of videos on each of the two
NASA Headquarters primary YouTube channels, marked as UNLISTED or
PRIVATE. This is a listing showing those videos marked unlisted
or private on the NASA Headquarters YouTube Creator’s page

https://documents2.theblackvault.com/documents/youtube/nasa-youtube.pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/20230307100105/https://spacecraft.ssl.umd.edu/akins_laws.html
Why won't Elon follow Akin's Law of Spacecraft Design, #13?

Lawsuit claims Amazon’s board erred in awarding Kuiper launch contracts to Blue Origin and others

>https://spacenews.com/lawsuit-claims-amazons-board-erred-in-awarding-kuiper-launch-contracts-to-blue-origin-and-others/

>A pension fund has filed suit against the board of directors of Amazon, claiming they “acted in bad faith” in approving launch contracts for the Project Kuiper broadband constellation that awarded billions of dollars to Blue Origin, the company founded by Amazon’s Jeff Bezos.
>“Despite being the launch provider with the most proven track record and the lowest prices in the industry, SpaceX was seemingly not considered by Amazon”
>“By excluding SpaceX, Bezos and his management team minimized bid competition for the launch agreements and likely committed Amazon to spending hundreds of millions of dollars more than it would have otherwise had to.”

I'm honestly surprised it took this long for someone to file suit against BO over the launches. I doubt it will go anywhere because 'ol Bezos is the sue king and the case will just remain in the courts forever.

>>15711389
Requirement is to send larger and heavier payloads to orbit for low price.

>>15711389
>I require you to design the best thing possible
what now?

>>15711389
>Akin's Law of Spacecraft Design

Literally some boomer who made a list. Boomers love lists.

>>15711382
It’s not hard to send FOIAs (also called PIRs)
Some agencies within NASA will charge you a nominal fee for man hours though. The most I’ve ever had to pay was $60 labor charges ($15/hr x 4 hours to pull and scan negatives)

>>15711366
Gravity affects all things equally regardless of mass.
If the ISS has a max docking weight it more than likely has to do with just sheer interia.
Dock something heavy with the station and it can experience sudden acceleration as the docking craft transfers its momentum to the station on contact.
All spacecraft would do this but the heavier the craft the bigger the energy transfer and acceleration that the station would have to deal with structurally and more fuel consumed to correct for the change in speed and and induced rotation.

>>15711306
I am right

>>15711416
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton's_laws_of_motion#Laws

>>15711389
>There's no justification for designing something one bit "better" than the requirements dictate.

>>15710466
It's over

>>15711431
Hehehe deep throttle

https://space-travel.blog/e-sail-tale-ffd30de4c6bf

E-SAIL bros our time is soon

solar sail fags will be left in the dust of the inner system

>>15711431
>Proven
>Two BE-4 engines drive the first stage of United Launch Alliance's Vulcan vehicle
Wow, that's really impressive, I didn't know that. How many times has Vulcan launched?

>>15711431
>Proven
No BE-4 has ever lifted a single gram off the ground. The cope is real.

>>15711446
>>15711448
Apparently they counted this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmGFSoqYQ68

>>15711431
>only 5 ton improvement

SpaceX is doing some cleaning
https://twitter.com/RGVaerialphotos/status/1697637362870653083

>>15711441
>Explore the Universe via the solar gravitational lens effect
Quick rundown?

>>15711456
just the SGL telescope idea, the faster you can got to 500 AU the sooner you can start observations

>>15711456
Oh, nevermind, it's this, I actually knew about this already.
https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/spacetech/niac/2020_Phase_I_Phase_II/Direct_Multipixel_Imaging_and_Spectroscopy_of_an_Exoplanet/
They don't mean "explore", they mean image. Image the Universe via the solar gravitational lens effect. I was kind of hoping this was going to be some schizo warp bubble nonsense.

>>15711454
More like someone was going to fine SpaceX for littering and they finally got around to cleaning it

>It’s impossible to go the speed of light because you’d need infinite energy to move your mass, and infinite energy is impossible.
>Blackholes can trap light tho because they have infinite mass (and therefore infinite energy). This is all possible and real.
Soooooo, which is it?

>>15711462
>Clean up the wetlands first, then you can launch.

>>15711461
>schizo warp bubble nonsense.

Have I got the video for you!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiJFo-kaJBQ&

>>15711441
>When countries realised the power of space tech, they established space agencies, which worked hard to standardise the sector and minimise the failures. This approach has worked very well in the sense that we seldom hear of space agency missions failing. More often we hear of mission extensions, which indicate overengineering.

>Cost, standardisation and risk aversion have made the field of space technology a conservative and slow-moving one. New technology proposals and concepts often remain just that – concepts and proposals.

Spitting straight facts

>>15711465
>blackholes have infinite mass
pretty sure they don't, they can be different 'sizes'.

>>15711468

>>15711478
>Mission extensions being possible are due to overengineering
What is this fat load of bullshit

Mission extensions are not some dumb "exceeds design limits" consequence. Space hardware is built to guarantee it will fulfill its mission requirements, no more and no less. If there is capability left over it's a bonus

>>15711488
Missing the point this fucking hard

>>15711485
add a 100x bigger finger-wagging MILF pointing at FAA that's labeled DoD/NRO.

>>15711493
What point are you trying to make then? Insulting engineers isn't a great start

>>15711498
He's talking about the risk averse nature of space agencies how do you not get that from the greentext

Reminder that we could build a test bed for gravitational lensing for approximately four nickels but NASA just doesn't care.
https://arxiv.org/abs/1908.00490
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgOTZe07eHA

The benefits being left on the table relative to the cost of building a solar sail test mule are similarly dismal
>Cost, standardisation and risk aversion have made the field of space technology a conservative and slow-moving one. New technology proposals and concepts often remain just that – concepts and proposals. Two intertwined revolutions have upgraded space tech into a modern field in which space startups are changing the game. First, the New Space movement fuelled dreams of building your own satellites and rockets. Second, the CubeSat standard encouraged thinking inside a box. A tiny one. A 10 by 10 by 10 cm one. Neither New Space nor cubesats are compatible with the standard approach of space agencies. We rather fail trying than fail to try.
Yeah.

>>15711488
To a point I actually agree with this. Consider Curiosity again, the mission has lasted a decade and certainly exceeded expectations. Consider the wheels though. Are they a "success" if they're a massive limiting factor? If 90% of your rover can last for twenty years and the remaining 10% fails after twelve, was that a success? Or should your design requirement have actually been twenty years in the first place, and the mission is a failure? Setting ultra-conservative design requirements and intentionally exceeding them is massive cope by people who never ever want to be in a position where they're criticized? I would personally rather there be very ambitious design goals, and greater acceptance of failure. If you can come in and say "Actually it's not a failure because we technically were not even trying to do this, actually everything past the first baby step is a "bonus" so we can't be criticized ever" then there isn't a point to design requirements in the first place.

>>15711488
>Space hardware is built to guarantee it will fulfill its mission requirements, no more and no less.
>no more and no less

That is where I disagree with you. The purpose of "over engineering" is to exceed the requirements for a design. If I have a heat shield that needs to withstand 1000 F, I'm not going to design it to withstand exactly 1000 F. That is far too close to the requirements and if there is an anomaly that causes temperatures to hit 1100 F, the "no more no less" concept falls apart. Yet if I design the heat shield to handle 2000 F, its ok. Not to mention that extended heat/cool cycles can cause failure if operating too close the the maximum.

Granted, I specialize in electrical engineering so my knowledge of other disciplines are lacking, but we follow the same guidelines when designing schematics. If a tank capacitor has to handle a 48V supply line, I'm going to select a capacitor that can handle 96V at a minimum.

>>15711507
Yeah the paragraph before that one explains his point more
>Trial and error seems to be the most human way of learning, exploring and advancing. Space technology is no exception, as we have seen from the early days of the space age – V2s were a strategic military tech of Nazi Germany, Sputnik was the pride of the Soviet Union, and the Moon landing was the American answer to that – all these projects received unprecedented amounts of funding, allowing for rapid trial-and-error development.

The way NASA does things, trial and error is almost not an option cause everything so expensive, has to work right and once or risk cancellation (SLS) so they over-engineer leading to more cost and delays

>>15711456
>solar gravitational lens effect
useless pop sci meme that will be laughed at when interferometry and quantum optics deliver yuuuge telescopes that can look at as many targets as you like

>>15711488
>>15711498
genuine autism

>>15711228
> Astra's acquisition of engine company was not smooth
I don't think anything is ever smooth with Astra

>>15711545
look at how smoothly this rocket slid off the pad

>>15711544
Engineers amirite

>>15711545
It also didn't help that "chief engineer" Ben Lyon was spending his time shopping for abandoned chip fabs to build spacecraft engines in and bitching about making the UI of internal software prettier rather than fixing the upper stage performance of Rocket 3. He was literally iToddler Prime.

>>15711454
I'm not a esg hound but why the fuck did they just leave it out there? I fucking hate people that litter. If anything they should have gotten at least a small fine for leaving it out there for so long.

>>15711562
Clueless

>>15711545
Go Woke, Go Broke

Astra must fail if humanity is to succeed.

>>15711488
>1488
Such powerful digits wasted

>>15711570
??

>>15711570
Double 1488 was great.

>>1488
>Such powerful digits wasted

https://twitter.com/NASA_SLS/status/1697636823244153031

>The ICPS for @NASAArtemis III recently made the journey to Florida where it will undergo final testing and checkouts. Along with its single RL10 engine, the ICPS provides in-space propulsion for the agency’s #Artemis II and III missions.

>>15711347
Just what EDS does to you.
People notice if you're cringily parroting left wing rhetoric on the internet.
I predict his views will start decreasing if they haven't already.

>>15711592
It's been done better.

>>15711465
They have infinite density, not infinite mass or energy

>>15711610
Stop. My train autism might derail (heh) the thread ugh

>>15711610
Damn that looks good actually

>>15711613
what gauge for mars

>>15711610

>>15711613
Go ahead and derail, anon.

>>15711624
Pennsylvania.

>>15711454
The FAA told them to do it lol. Fags

>>15711610
Bring back Art Deco.

>>15711587
They’re really hyping up this dinosaur stage designed by JAXA huh

>>15711633
The martian accent should be trans atlantic

>>15711633
luckily elon has a fetish for that style so we're in good hands

>>15711454
Do they need to clean up the beach too?

>>15711639
Yes, clean it up (for free!)

>>15711641
I would be happy to clean all that, provided that I can keep it.
I would sell it in ebay as parts of test starships.

>>15711392
Wasn't their reason something along the lines of F9 being too small?

>>15711632
No shit, sherlock.

>>15711651
They’re launching some of these on Atlas V now, so take that how you will

>>15711510
Not so cut and dry. If 2000 F puts the object over the weight limit its not getting off the ground. So items need to be designed to requirements with a known safety factor. Of which there is many standardized equations for. Further NASA making items last longer could interfere with there other pork program funding.

>>15711660
>Further NASA making items last longer could interfere with there other pork program funding.
You fags constantly argue this yet almost every NASA mission gets extended well past it’s intended mission duration

>>15711655
theyre just being good stewards of the location. youre just a schizo blaming everything on biden and faa

>>15711660
In addition simply doubling something doubles complexity increasing risk and cost. So to your point, make one item with doubled requirements or make two with engineered safety factors for the same price.

>>15711661
I did not bias it right or wrong simply stated the fact that NASA can be ultra gay.

>>15711610
Reminder these men would scoff at a future where trains were ugly and men were slobs and more feminine. They would describe that as dystopian. We live in that dystopia.

>>15711675
You r*dditors use the word dystopian way too much.

>>15711662
>youre just a schizo blaming everything on biden and faa
We've been proven right most of the time.

So why does venus lack a magnetic field?

>>15711693
it doesn't, it just gets it in an unconventional way

>>15711696
?

>>15711454
they just left all the debris out there this whole time? They definitely should have cleaned it up immediately following the launch.

>>15711592
This is a really fucking stupid juxtaposition. The images aren't even visually similar.

>>15711699
ions and shit

>>15711692
Elon is going after the ADL now. He knows where the power lies and how to kill it.

>>15711708
Neat

>>15711624
>>15711630
It has to be Breitspurbahn

>>15711630
>pic
Insane

>>15711693
We’ve never probed the subsurface directly (no one gives a shit about Venus for some reason) but the lack of a moon, the fucked rotation, and the presumed lack of plate tectonics all points to her taking a glancing blow at some point (as opposed to a more energetic one like Earth had). So the modern day rotation and presumed lack of heat exchange between the core and mantle points to there being no internal dynamo to create a strong EM field

>>15711723
*modern day -lack- of rotation, that is

>>15711723
No one gives enough of a shit about Venus to go for surface landers over lower hanging fruit.

Theia sample return

>>15711347
If he feels that way he can influence audiences with his videos to hate nasa less, credit elons employees more etc by bringing up facts in the script, but he's going to shovel salt instead.

>>15711624
I'm writing a science fiction novel about trains on Mars and everything is broad gauge so the trains can be big enough for people to live on them

>>15711708
> bow shock within 1 planetary radius
pathetic

Train Chads I have an offer from nuke chads

Wtf no one told me the hypothesis of Psyche being an exposed planetary core has been completely thrown out now. This mission just got way more gay

>>15711740
Is this the raw power of metallic hydrogen™ or is there a simpler explanation

>>15711688
Care to explain?

>>15711717
t. Lincoln Log non-enjoyer

>>15711759
Do I need to?
R*dditors call a minor inconvenience dystopian.
Yeah, there a problems in the world, that doesn't mean we live in in dystopia -- that means we live in the real world.
It's just a symptom of a privileged person. They don't know how good they have it; they don't know what an actual dystopia is.

>>15711766
insane in a good way

>>15711743
Factorio....

I personally find it upsetting that there is now Indian feces on our only moon.

>>15711768
I apologize to the general, I didn't know I was walking into this anons unhinged rant by asking to learn more.

>>15711389
Based Boomer
Space is hard

>>15711779
>unhinged
Jesus... you're far gone, non.

>>15711785
I'm not going to shit up sfg, but look who just went on a tangent and posted all their baggage then told me I need to return to being reasonable lmao. You have the last word but really think about if you want to use it

>>15711389
He is following it. It's just that the requirements for what he wants to do are beyond our current capabilities, so the optimal way to approach the problem is to make things as good as possible.

>>15711785
you think it was hinged?

we're in a topia

>>15711772
Why isn't there a good factorio style Mars game? Or maybe an in depth mod for factorio is there?

Daily reminder that Mars is a living world

>>15711812
Looks the ancients missed one. Let's finish the job

>>15711812
If you can do the eye cross thing you can see its just the shadows changing with time of day

>>15711820
Martian life denialism is a hate crime

>>15711826
Nuke 'em

>>15711826
look, life on earth!

Kek imagine reading a headline like
>NASA administrator senator astronaut Bill Nelson announces that the Minuteman III ICBM has been strategically deployed to nuke Russia if necessary
Why does russia have this weird gray overlap between civil aerospace and military responsibilities

>>15711834
Pocky has always been primarily military. NASA has always been the opposite.

>>15711834
reminder that Eisenhower forced protoNASA to put a sack of sand as the payload for the super early orbital tests because he wanted to avoid having a useful payload in orbit because lolweapon cold war

>>15711831
>consumes resources
>grows
>reduces local entropy and gibbs free energy
Bros? How do we defeat the pyrite menace

>>15711866
my earth sci prof had a whole lecture on the different definitions of life (is a car alive, is the earth alive, are proteins life) fun stuff.

>>15711236
probably because of how secretive the chinese are about their spaceflight activities since it's so closely tied to national prestige and national security. they're just too risk averse even when they probably shouldnt be. it reminds me of how you needed a license from NOAA just so you can take a pic of the earth.

>>15711545
https://techcrunch.com/2023/08/28/astras-apollo-fusion-acquisition-followed-by-delays-and-desertion/

> An August 14, 2023 settlement agreement between Astra and Apollo Fusion holders, LinkedIn data showing an employee exodus, internal company documents, as well as interviews with multiple sources, exposes what will likely become a canonical cautionary tale on aerospace acquisitions. Astra did not respond to TechCrunch’s multiple requests for comment on this story.

> “It was a very schizophrenic thing where part of management was saying, ‘We have to invest, we have to do great things with Apollo,’ but there was no investment there. [There were] no hires,” the same person said, speaking of the months after the acquisition closed.

> A separate source said Astra displayed little interest in retention. “There was no interest in keeping talent,” the source said while describing the spacecraft engine business. “There were a lot of Apollo people that were looking to parachute out and more excited about getting out.”

> As time went on, the in-space propulsion team shrank while the launch side swelled, an issue that was compounded by Apollo Fusion members quitting and not being replaced. The majority of the Apollo Fusion team had cleared out by October 2022, less than 18 months after the acquisition closed. LinkedIn data shows that Astra eventually lost nearly every Apollo Fusion staffer, including the engineers that took the spacecraft engine product from clean sheet to flight heritage.

> Per the terms, Apollo shareholders will likely walk away with $7 million in cash to settle its disputes — a steep drop from the up to $95 million in cash-plus-stock performance-based earnouts the two firms agreed upon back in 2021.

>>15711878
not anymore, thanks to the Biden admin NOAA has been drained and their nazi rule over earth sensing has been ended.

>>15711866
Somewhere deep within the mantle I’m sure there’s, technically, the largest single crystal of olivine or pyroxene or bridgmanite or something. We might not ever find it. But technically there has got to be a “largest single crystal on earth; no single crystal is bigger than this”
I wonder how big it is. The size of a car? The size of a small city? I wonder if it affects the geodesy of planet Earth because it imparts a very small gravitational difference

>>15711661
That has been a problem lately
Everyone expects the extended mission now, to the point it's not really an extended mission but something else. Osiris Rex is getting retargeted for Apophis and no one is shocked but New Horizons gets deprioritized because it's leaving the solar system and people are acting like NASA just shot their dog

spacex is launching the globstar Apple satellites https://spacenews.com/globalstar-picks-spacex-to-refresh-leo-constellation/

what's next on their plate?

>>15711886
It’s also a deep space network problem. A big factor in just killing cassini off was the cost of keeping the program alive. Mashallah it was meant to be but I am still upset by this decision

>>15711562
because it's just some rocks
what are you gonna do when i take a scoop of riverrock and dump it 10m away? cry?

remember to kick over all cairns on mars

>>15711894
or set them up to lead earther tourists off cliffs

>>15711713
truly hate that we dont live in the breitspurbarhn timelime

>>15711891
Nickel and diming taxpayers with BOLE boosters and hopefully suing NASA for choosing Blue Moon over Alpaca
P.S. the real “I kneel” oldspace company is Lockmart, if I had to choose one. Not that they’re great. But I love the raptor and lightning and they make okayish NASA hardware if you ignore the outrageous price tags

>>15711806
>he doesn't know about Space Exploration and Space Age

>>15711888
> Apple has agreed to reimburse Globalstar for 95% of the constellation, including manufacturing and launch costs. The smartphone giant is also lending Globalstar $252 million to help cover upfront costs.

>

In return, Apple would use 85% of the new network’s capacity to upgrade satellite services launched last year for its latest iPhone, which can connect with one of Globalstar’s 24 existing satellites for emergency services when cell towers are out of reach.

>>15711881
Astra seems like a terrible company

>>15711866
They cannot be stopped

https://www.discovermagazine.com/the-sciences/another-earth-could-orbit-in-the-distant-reaches-of-the-solar-system-say

Pleny X broys wee are baackkk

>>15711909
astronomers confirmed for retarded

>>15711909
The last time this got brought up they could not get it to correlate with other observations of comets and asteroids

>>15711909
>“We found that a Kuiper Belt planet 1.5–3 times as massive as Earth can explain [these] properties,” they say.

Literally the missing mini-Neptune we're finding so common in other star systems but not in our own, would be a kino find

>>15711909
can't wait for somebody to find it and call it something absolutely retarded

>>15711922
Like X?

>>15711922
Persephone

>>15711927
there's a 0% chance it gets a good roman name

>>15711929
Ultima Thule

>>15711922
melancholia(2011)

>>15711930
Fuck yeah

>>15711918
I am way too drunk right now to azxduearley recall my google searches the other day but I was just doing a rabbit hole dive about that team from Uniceristy of Louisiana lafayette (I think?) who proposed that extra planet beyond neptune to describe gravitational anomalies. Basically NASA ran a bunch of simulations and found that there actually weren’t any anonomalies tbat couldn’t be explained by what we currently know. I think this is the same thing. We just need to rerun our current models of all charted TNO objects and I’m sure it could be disproven

Bros S31 is getting stacked there will be 6 ships made in advance of IFT-2. Do you think we will reach a point where the limiting factor of Starship launches is production or will it remain regulations? It will ramp up quickly after this since they dont need to redo the launch site unlike now.

>>15711934(me)
JFC I apologize for the spelling shitstorm but I’m fed up with fighting with ios’ god-awful autocorrect. It gets worse with every update. Yes i’m ph*neposting I’m in the middle of bumfuck nowhere with no internet

Poccocmoc Vitali Melnikov just ate poisonous mushrooms, nothing to do with failed moon landing

>>15711905
yep all around

>Elon is replying to far right accounts complaining about Jewish organizations
https://nitter.net/elonmusk/status/1697655308946944257
oh no no no

>>15711944
spaceflight?

>>15711945
>Elon Musk > CEO SpaceX > Space Exploration Technololgies Corp. > Falcon 9, Dragon, Starship > Spaceflight

>>15711941
"mistakes will be punished by death" is the dumbest thing dictatorships do. lets train people for years, decades even, then kill them and lose all that value if they fuckup once. its the same way with businesses too when they fire someone for a mistake.

>Hype yourself up as a major power in the space sector
>shit out the most basic lunar lander known to man equal to that of china and india, who are literally just getting started
>it fucking fails
>India still lands anyways at almost the exact same time as the cherry on top
Even setting current events aside, Russia is fucking pathetic

Hey guys, did you know that in terms of Low-Earth Orbit and Martian surface payload delivery, the SpaceX Starship is the most efficient rocket for its cost? Not only is it fully and rapidly reusable, the holy grail of rocketry, the SpaceX Starship is capable of lifting more than 150 metric tonnes, this means they’re large enough to be able handle the largest satelites, and with its stainless steel construction, you can be rough with one. Due to its massive size, there’s no doubt in my mind that a fully fueled Starship would be incredibly powerful, so powerful that you could easily lose engines without mission failure. They can also lift telescopes, space station modules, other spacecraft, along with not having paint to hide seams, so it’d be incredibly easy for one to get inspected. With their removeable heat shield tiles, they can easily recover from reentry with enough spare tiles. No other rocket comes close to this level of power. Also, fun fact, if you choose the lunar variant, you can make your Starship turn white. Starship is literally built for human exploration. Ungodly thrust+size+fairing volume+engine efficiency means it can take payloads all day, all shapes and sizes and still come for more.

>>15711944
Enjoy your vacation

>>15711938
the limiting factor will be modifying the boosters and starships after each failure

>>15711956
OC btw

>>15711956
why are chatgpt posts so blatant, it always reads like a 5th grader 2 paragraph essay but with better grammar.

>>15711961
LOLL

>>15711905
It really, really was.

https://www.naval-technology.com/features/darpa-silent-mhd-magnetic-drives-for-replacing-naval-propellers/

>>15711961
it's maddening, and completely incapable of concise answers

>>15711961
its copypasta

>>15711905
it's a bit fitting that the resident rocket industry anon worked at Astra. I expected nothing better from 4channers.
Whatever happened to the spacex employee? Also remember that starbase guy who posted pics, whoops

>>15711922
Tangata manu

>>15711961
I asked chat gpt to rewrite the vaporeon copypasta to be about starship and it said no like a bitch

>>15711973
/sfg/ brain drain is real, I blame the anti-anime faggot derailing threads the second any anime pic was posted instead of ignoring

>>15711976
meanwhile inbetween sfg starting and now I finished up 2 degrees and feel like a retard. perhaps sfg is what drains OUR brains

>>15711961
I didn't use chatgpt. I'm a professional (amateur) writer.
>>15711971
OC (original comment)

>>15711885
Size would be limited due to geological activity and the crust shifting.

newfag who's always loved space. Just found out about cost-plus contracting and how it's impeded so much. What the absolute fuck

>>15711999
It gets even worse, I’m sorry to say

>>15711946
The mental gymnastics /pol/tards have to jumpthrough to try and ruin other boards when they could just stay on theirs.

>>15711893
>not seeing all the steel rebar

>>15712007
Im sure, Im a brainlet so I didnt know, reading Zubrins case for space atm
Assuming he's right, its insane how much cheaper spaceflight could be

>>15711999
Tip of the iceberg newfren. Stick around, it seems like you mean well.

>>15711999
I was going to write an informative reply to you but I need more money

>>15712026
write your reply, I'll give you whatever it costs you to type it out plus 15%

>>15711347
might be true that a portion of SpaceX fans aren't really interested in engineering, but he seems overly salty anyway

BE-3U is a better engine than the RL10

>>15712032
thrust in a vacuum? I thought they only used them on their suborbital joyride?

>NOTMAR for Hawaiian waters Sep 8th. Potential falling debris from space operations. Alternate time frames Sep 9-15. Specific times and also a map of debris zone and potential landing zone are provided as well at the link below.
https://www.navcen.uscg.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/lnms/lnm14352023.pdf

we saw the FTS brought in today, could they really shoot for a launch on the 8th? its unlikely that starship will launch but everyone is thinking months of testing are still needed, yet we have more evidence that a launch could be upon us faster than anticipated.

>>15711389
the first step of the "algorithm" is to question the requirements, they are often stupid
ask the right question

>>15712024
Got a new pc and picked up kerbal (I piddled around in it ages ago to little avail) and it's completely reignit my love for this stuff. Always had a cheap telescope so it never really went away, but I feel back. Apologies for the blogpost, space engine screen for your time

>>15711392
>>15709621

this was discussed in the previous thread, ctrl+f amazon

>>15712041
little points of light in the middle are phobos and deimos btw

You guys see this?

https://twitter.com/jenakuns/status/1697442574099947530

>>15712050
yes

>>15712035
whoa mama

>>15712041
Bare minimum you need CKAN, Restock+, and KSP Community Fixes. If you want more you can't go wrong with everything Near Future (guy ended up getting hired for KSP2 on the back of this mod series), and MechJeb 2/kOS if you're into a more computerized spaceflight experience.

>>15712058
been trying to do a goal of sending a kerbal to every body and back with stock, but Ill still look into those since I imagine things are going to stagnate for me before I reach that, thanks fren

>>15711885
isnt there a theory out there that earth's inner core is one single, gigantic crystal of iron? if so, i think that would qualify.

>>15712034
That's the BE-3, the BE-3U is a bigger engine for New Glenn.

>>15712064
The first three are just the foundations of the vanilla "patched" game. CKAN manages mods, Restock+ fixes the awful texture work on the old parts and Community Bug Fixes attempts to correct some of the things Squad never got around to. Near Future and Cryoengines + CryoTanks are basically "what if we had more variety in vanilla parts" and SCANsat gives you something to aspire to if you're into orbit planning autism

>>15712073
got it, those first few seem necessary then. I had mechjeb ages ago but Im fine with doing things manually for now, but docking is close to filtering me, I just get impatient. I know itll be routine eventually.

>>15711347
>>15712030
It's such a weird thing to say unless you figure he's full of shit. There's no reason his audience that likes engineering isn't interested in spacex. There's no reason *someone who likes spacex but doesnt care about engineering* can't become more interested in engineering after encountering his channel. Do I even need to say things like this? The overlap between people that like engineering and vroom vroom things that go into space, spacex or not, is super obvious.

>>15711215
Last flight-test's FTS was adequate and I hope they didn't waste resources changing it

>>15712050
what is human health countermeasure tech?

>>15711347
There is no middle ground between SLS and Starship. Also he isn't the best engineer out there, his videos contain some mistakes.

>>15711454
So another way to stall by the government?

>>15712035
Hawaiians shaking their heads at this latest act of the US polluting their islands

>>15711454
Are those men standing around graphite? Will they even live to see next year? Elon is a fucking monster

>interviewing for a nasa job next week at white sands test facility
bros

>>15712041
One of mine

>>15712105
Tell them to improve the cell reception out there

t. knower

>>15712105
Good luck

>>15712035
You think this could start another fire? I almost want to start a fake campaign for the hell of it against SpaceX testing. Shit is so easy over there

>>15712106
pretty

>>15711973
>Whatever happened to the spacex employee?
working hard hopefully

>>15712110
is Las Cruces a good city to live in? I'm used to semi-rural New England

>>15711347
I don't know who this guy is but everything he says there is right.

>>15712035
Wet dress, what else is there? Then its up to the FAA again

>>15712127
nasa plane maybe? its booked for imaging between sept 4 and sept 11
https://airbornescience.nasa.gov/aircraft_detailed_cal?aircraft_id=19%2B20%2B36

>>>/lgbt/32606764

wtf is wrong with you. go to that board because youre obviously a cum-guzzling queer

>>15711984
All in a hard day's work
>>15712021
Here's the truth: v Congress wants to minimize visible and useful spaceflight because whenever something too interesting or useful happens they get a bunch of protests demanding to know why so much money is being spent on space instead of on feeding homeless babies or whatever.
They do NOT get this reaction when they shovel billions of dollars into useless pork barrel projects however.
>>15712041
How early in the tech tree (exactly which nodes) do you need before you can build a fully recoverable SSTO spaceplane
>>15712080
highly recommend SCANSat. Just the ability to plot your ground track is worth it.
What even does the community fixes patch do?

>>15712136
I swear I accidentally clicked on the button and this was on top of the page

>>15712138
Quite a lot
https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/topic/204002-18-112-kspcommunityfixes-bugfixes-and-qol-tweaks/

>>15712139
>I accidentally clicked on the button
yeah, sure.

>>15712138
>How early in the tech tree (exactly which nodes) do you need before you can build a fully recoverable SSTO spaceplane
no idea, I dont really touch planes, I am doing sci mode but Ive almost finished it with mobile labs on mun and minmus kek
>highly recommend SCANSat. Just the ability to plot your ground track is worth it.
sounds nice, Ill download it tonight
The anon who recommended the community fix should have the answer
>>15712139
but why start shit here man

>>15712035
1 week?

>15712134
Click on that link and don't ever come back.

wow, this sucks

>>15712164
Yea.

>>15712164
it's great

>>15711346
Is this a basedjak?
https://images.nasa.gov/details/ARC-2006-ACD06-0145-065

>>15712184
Your brain is rotted anon. Also its nas.

>>15712184

>>15712200

>>15712184
I see it

>>15712184
the heck it that

>>15712200
john madden

https://twitter.com/Astro_Danyboy/status/1697723501233279119
Ariane 6: VERY good news. ArianeGroup has successfully completed the full fire test of the second stage. The fire test took place under nominal flight conditions. Other tests in degraded conditions are planned before qualifying the second stage.
No video shown though.

>>15712184
RIP sharty

>>15712214
let's put together a list of non-reusable F9+ class rockets in development.
>A6
>Vulcan
> what else?

>>15712237
H-III, New Glenn only because it will fail to land

>>15712237
the more interesting question is: what happens when they all become active

>>15712251
they launch 15 times each over the course of ~20 years and are retired in favor of non reusable starship clones

Speaking of H-III
https://www.mhi.com/news/230901.html
>Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Ltd. (MHI) has been assessing the new launch date for the H-IIA Launch Vehicle No.47 (H-IIA F47) which carries aboard "XRISM(Note1)" and "SLIM(Note2)" developed by JAXA since launch postponement announced on August 28th, due to unfavorable weather condition. According to the latest weather forecast, still unfavorable weather continues. Establishment of the new launch date cannot be expected at least until early next week. New launch date will be informed once determined.

>>15712251
>image
kek

>>15712237
There's Northrop-Firefly's Antares 330 and the MLV, assuming they don't try to bolt some landing legs onto that.

I suppose you could include Vega-E too since that's technically in development.

>>15712184
this looks horrifying without context

>>15712264
thats a big fairing

>>15712274
I feel out of touch with this image
what the fuck is it about

>>15712277
imagine if warships were cute anime girls that you could play a slot machine to collect .PNGs of.

>>15712277
Its some nigger putting his off topic faggotry in slightly related spaceflight posts so he can subvert any meaningful discussion in this general.

Sooo what the fuck was up with musk being super adamant about correcting the question asker and calling it reFILLING when they called it refueling? Is he just an autist focusing on the semantics?
Kek even the website calls it refilling

>>15712292
Probably a terminology thing
Refueling implies you're filling something's fuel tanks
This kind of hints that the depot Starship is going to have separate tanks for storage

>>15712292
because it's fuel and oxidizer

>>15711530
>visible light interferometry
I'll believe it when I see it

>>15712292
musk likes to steal free refill soda

>>15712293
I apologize

>>15712299
reoxidizering

>>15711530
>I called it popsci so it is automatically invalidated

>>15712146
yeah you don't need to go interplanetary to finish science if you biomemaxxx

>>15712164
it's significantly better than nothing, which should be the alternative if you're choosing it
make sure it has a clear view of the piece of sky it asks for

>>15712315
still need to for my personal goal before I touch mods, but yes
kind of excited to eventually do the Real Solar System one. Principia seems like too bigbrained for me

Does anyone have a pdf about positron propulsion?

>>15712322
No we will not help you win your argument on Xitter

>>15712308
No, having to build a telescope-deep space probe for every target of interest and having to get terabytes of data back from 550 AU invalidates it
>>15712300
I have faith of the heart
https://phys.org/news/2022-05-quantum-technique-enable-telescopes-size.html

>>15712134
kek this is why he bought Twitter

is there any room for someone who only has legal experience in the space industry field? I would assume for patents and IP law, need to start working somewhere like that NOW

>>15712237
>eventually

A6 will get reusable LRB and Vulcan will have SMART engine reuse

>>15712333
>smart
never happening

>>15712139
t. Tom Mueller

>>15712333
Literally neither of these will happen beyond one attempt for the circus audience

>>15712337
Topkek

>>15712330
Kys samefagging ur own post to try and get more attention. Enjoy your vacation, you clearly need it with how much you browse that board.

>>15712333
LRBs would undercut the solid fuel lobby in Europe the same way putting LRBs on SLS would undercut the Utah congressional delegation. Europe would be willing to spend millions to research the idea but they'd never actually put any of it into service. SMART is never going to happen for the same reasons ULA never developed it on the Atlas V despite having over a decade of powerpoints on the subject.

>>15712233
Looks like they're back.

>>15712366
*black

>>15712118
It's dry, it's hot, the landscape and people are incredibly brown, but the food is good and the government is tolerable. El Paso is nearby and actually a pretty cool town in spite of and/or because the rest of Texas usually forgets it's there.

>>15711956
Pretty good, but six engined Starship has little to no engine out capability and the TPS tiles aren't easily removable currently, they have to break the tile to get it off.

>all muh eggs in le spacex basket
Meanwhile blue origin, who experienced an engine failure a year ago that has yet to return to action, is building an even riskier engine. And if that POS shoahs and needs to be grounded for major redesigns it’s potentially taking New Glenn, Vulcan, NROL missions, half the Kuiper fleet, ESCAPADE, Dreamchaser, NASA’s second Artemis lander, and Starliner out with it

>>15712326
I got it, thanks!

Does SX have exclusive rights to the RTLS landing pads at cape canaveral? I never realized how close it was the BO’s LC-36. It’s literally right on top of it

>>15712410
So do you just hate the entire spaceflight scene? Cant even be happy with what SpaceX is doing now.

>>15712138
>>15712073
I finished the docking tutorial for the first time finally. Im a real spaceman now

>>15712410
The difference between these two companies is really astounding. BO had an 18 month head start, industry connections, and guaranteed never-ending cash flow. Spacex had a crappy little office, risky finances, and a mariachi band.
Now, one of these companies puts more into orbit per year than any other government or private entity on earth while also operating the majority of functional satellites. The other has failed to put even 1 (one) gram of mass into orbit.

>>15712430
No, I’m pointing out the hypocrisy of big j*m and other oldspace goombahs who are trying to act like relying on SpaceX is some huge “risk” when they’ve literally been relying on the same 3 major defense contractors ever since the Saturn family was retired. And who have now inadvertently placed half their chips on BE-4 working smoothly

>>15711944
But the ADL actually does hate free speech and wants to ban even milquetoast conservatives from twitter lmao

my lol scenario:NG launches fine, but they just can never nail down the landing. So they scrap landing temporarily in order to reduce costs so they can launch Kuiper. Temporarily becomes permanently and they push reuse to new Armstrong

>>15712444
Bonus points if it works fine through stage sep and only fails at landing burn, taking out the entire drone ship (or whatever they use) with it. And the upper stage also fails and they don’t reach orbit kek

>>15712434
idk if the tutorial covers it, but best trick for docking is to switch between vehicles using the [ ] keys and sas lock both of them to target the other's docking port. makes it pretty much trivial

>>15712434
Jesus, get graphic improvement mods

>>15712447
I had to do this yeah
>>15712449
which ones? I know of parallax and EVE

>>15712444
BO will end up never reusing a meaningful percentage of a vehicle, they're just building an oldspace rocket but somehow even slower.

NG's first launch attempt will be scrubbed twice, then it will be rolled back to have some part deep in its guts replaced which will take 1 month. we'll all die from blue balls

>>15711347
>>15711601
I could always tell this guy was a weenie just from the tone of his voice in any of his videos, no matter the subject. He's always whining, even when he has no possible reason to whine. Whining is just his default mode of speech. I don't trust people like that.

>>15712452
I think Vulcan might still have NG beat for biggest oldspace award. It’s been under development since 2014. If it slips to next year (it will) that will be an entire decade. Somehow even worse than Space Launch System!

>>15712464
Oops I take that back. For some reason I was thinking SLS started development in 2017 lol.
SLS is hard to beat, it’s a real piece of shit. Development started, technically, in 2011. That’s eleven years between initial dev and first flight

>>15712018
steel rebar is harmless to the environment. steel is just a kind of rock

>>15712184
>tfw nasa starts using poltergeist induced propulsion

>>15712481
fossil fuels are already corpse powered

>>15712105
Wear a dress and put on some makeup. You WILL get the job.

>>15712486
dress code at WSTF is long pants though

https://youtu.be/bNaQzrXKhI0?si=S-FNiuUY5D1OG6mV
lol at the spin and booster parachute failure

>>15712487
So wear them under the dress

>>15712492
what was the point of I-X again
is it bush w's fault

>>15712492
Damn. Really puts the F9 grid fins into perspective

>>15712496
"oh shit we didn't actually test anything let's use a spare Shuttle stick before building five segment boosters"

>>15712506
ok well what's the point that NASA gave, not the real point

>>15712506
they actually tested MLAS four months before, but yeah you’re basically correct
https://youtu.be/MCKXU8Z_TD0?si=Z_i6uVmrxVuPJkLB

>>15712114
Normally open ocean doesn't catch on fire.

>>15712332
Volunteer to draft the Martian Constitution

>>15712308
Ok smart guy, how do you point the telescope?

if GPS satellites were in orbit for a million years, do you think something would evolve to take advantage of their signals?

>>15712251
This is so cringe and pathetic larping. Meanwhile in Boca Chica you have the side of serendipity

>>15712511
They were testing avionics for the SRB as a main rocket engine

It was kind of hilarious they even needed to do it given the modeling technology at the time but there was probably some old crusty engineer who demanded real-world testing and got it

>>15712546
The magnetic field is right there though

i want to die for mars

>>15712557
that just gives you direction

https://twitter.com/itsmoislam/status/1696523246542397817

Astra president interview

>>15712582
>Be honest
>Do you feel like you're in danger right now?

>>15712582
i dont give a single shit about this scam artist

>>15712587
>"STOP! YOU VIOLATED THE LAW"

>>15712582
Where did (former) astranon end up, again? I'm glad he got out of there.

>>15712519
It's close enough to Maui that I bet you could get some people to complain about potential danger of some sort

>>15712035
would I be able to see it from Oahu?
also, how long would I have after launch to get to the north shore to see it?

>>15712633
Almost exactly an hour and a half from Texas launch to hawaii splashdown, assuming it survives past stage sep this time around

>>15712035
>months of testing?
Not required at this point.

>>15712638
oh, easy

>>15712492
name a bigger nasa meme than reusing SRB's

you can't

>>15712641
Yeah but idk if you’ll be able to see it. Off the top of my head it’s landing just past kauai

>>15712627
US Navy Pacific Missile Range so they'll be used to it

>>15712643
Reusing orbiters?

>>15712651
reusing astronauts

>>15712651
Reusing astronauts

>>15712643
landing a man on the moon and returning him safely to earth before this decade is out

>>15712652
>>15712653
>consecutive posts within seven seconds

>>15712646
damn, yeah, it's way too far

>>15712663
expendable astronauts hivemind

>>15712666

>>15712652
we could've put a man on Venus if not for this meme

>>15712652
>>15712653
NASA does have pretty large astronaut classes and a fairly slim number of actual flight positions. They could probably get away with only sending everyone up once.

>>15712680
and saving mass by ditching TPS and heat shields, in theory. Everything is automated these days. Send death row prisoners up.

>>15712686
>Send death row prisoners up.
Fuck that I'll go myself. Don't reward those moronic psychopahs.

>>15712691
Ahh good point. Strap me to a rocket and fire me to Mars I am ready

Mars, the Bringer of War should be the anthem of the martian armed forces

>>15712706
>martian armed forces
who are they going to fight?

>>15712712
earth

>>15712712
the firmament

>>15712643
hydrologgs

>>15712720
Is SLS somewhat semi-redeemed on this because it’s a sustainer stage? I guess you still have the retardation of heavy tanks, shit density, and limited test fires.

>>15712712
>who are they going to fight?
Each other, that's what humans do.

strange! This is either very good news, or very bad news! But I don't know which! Dr. Slough has done more recent papers about using essentially the same PMD tech for aerobraking at Mars, and for radiation protection enroute! Dr. Slough's most recent funded studies seem to be concerned with Fusion Rocket Development. I think PMD or D-D would make a great pairing with SpaceX Starships, but Gwynne Shotwell doesn't seem to be interested either! I can't understand why not! PMD & D-D tech equipped SpaceX Starships can get 100 Mars Colonists there in a week, instead of 3 months! If I was a Mars Colonist, I would want to get there as fast as possible! But here's the real kicker! A single PMD & D-D Rocket can get 100 US Space Force Miners to Asteroid 16 Psyche in the Main Asteroid Belt in less than 2 weeks, instead of 4 years with chemical rockets alone! Asteroid 16 Psyche is a 130 mile diameter ball of nearly pure iron and nickel that used to be a proto-planet metallic core. Forbes Magazine has estimated that it is worth $700 quintillion dollars. That iron and nickel would make the stainless steel for thousands of O'neill type Space Colonies, and Star-Trek like Interstellar Spaceships to go explore the galaxy with! And while that's just mind-blowing! It isn't the whole story!On Earth, such iron and nickel ore has always also contained a very small percentage of Platinum Group Metals. A single PMD & D-D Starship could bring back $30 billion dollars worth of Platinum Group Metals from 16 Psyche every year! A fleet of 500 US SPACE FORCE PMD & D-D Starships could retire the US DEBT of $21 Trillion in less than 2 years, and give every American Citizen a $2K per month "Asteroid Dividend Check"! This is double Andrew Yang's Universal Basic Income proposal, AND pays off the entire US DEBT at the same time! You would think someone would be interested in doing this!

>>15712736
You’ve spent too much time in the cuckpod or something

>>15712741
>tfw no Uncle Sam Asteroid Dividend

>>15712736
this is the sort of wall of text you see on a schizo spacecraft waiting at a spaceport target parking lot

>>15712744
kek its from youtube

had to delete half of it to fit the post limit

>>15712744
if all diseases are created with computer, how come plagues occured before computers existed

>>15712752
wdym, computers have existed for more than 200 years it says right there

>>15712752
because this is a simulation

>>15712752
>hey how come this schizo babble is incomprehensible

>>15712756
Longer than that. Fun fact: machines really do have spirits and it's not just us anthropomorphizing them.

>>15712752
schizo cars are inexplainable sometimes. anyways back to spaceflight sorry for off topic tangent lol

The Great Globular Cluster in Hercules

>>15712765
>SMELL YOUR NIGHTMARE
this hits unexpectedly hard

is it just me or has spacex been scrubx recently? lots of F9s are getting scrubbed.

>>15712776
Literal fucking back to back hurricanes bro

>>15712779
oh
yeah I forgot

>>15712779
Launch in the eye of the storm

>>15712761
well i will personally lecture this schizo if he cant properlyd ebate me because im autistic and autism always beats schizophrenia