/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15709330
No vaccines

no goyslop, no cars, they exercise a lot with how much they fuggin build, no psychiatrists
also no technology

>>15709330
Lower environmental stress, higher religiosity (remember those rats that held on longer when they had hope?), whiteness

They avoid a lot of toxins the average Joe gets exposed to, exercise by work and live a general stress-free lifestyle. Of course they outlive city folks.

>>15709330
the industrial revolution and its consequences...

>>15709330
LIVE FAST
DIE YOUNG

>>15709330
I suppose the general average includes a lot of poor people, drug addicts, niggers, etc.

>>15709330
>November 2017
You're a faggot. My family also lives about 20 years longer than the average Amish. So you're also wrong.

>>15709579
>um wow this paper is 5 years old, that makes it heckin invalid
Zoomers deserve death.

>>15709593
>Pretend the paper is new
You're still a faggot. My family still lives about 20 years longer than the average Amish. So you're still wrong.

>>15709596
>Pretend the paper is new
Nobody did that. Take your meds schizo.

>>15709330
>average of 10 years longer than other members of their communities

>>15709599
I literally just did, schizo. It still didn't matter

Is the Amish lifestyle the key to life extension?
Are any of the many life extension fanatics on /sci/ are willing to give it a try?

>>15709330
Nutrition.

It really is that easy. Don't eat industrially processed/glyphosate food. That's it.
Don't kill your gut, and you live longer, what a surprise.

>>15709925
See also >>15709892 btw

the average Amish also loses their teeth by their 40s and has to use dentures

>>15709330
They aren't 500lbs fat bastards who diet exclusively on Supersize Me Big Macs, fried onion rings, 54" pizzas, and a gallon of Coca Cola to wash it down, per meal, 3 meals a day.

>>15709954
>t. fluoride state
yet they still live 10 years longer than everyone else

>>15709994

>>15709330
Look at those noses.
They are obviously jews in disguise.

>>15709330
Almost like the industrial system is designed to make you ill and slowly kill you while converting your health and your soul into liquidity.

>>15709330
It just comes down to them getting more exercise, using less drugs, and them actually caring for their elderly. Simple as.

>>15709925
Is Amish agriculture actually purely natural, no industrial fertilizers, pesticides, or what not? I have no idea.

>>15709330
I'd rather die at 60 with modern comforts and conveniences than at 90 with no teeth and being forced to smell a family of 8's farts and BO all the time in 90F weather and no air conditioning

>>15711778
you won't make it to 60 because you're a vaxxxxie

The secret to substantial life extension is laid out right before your eyes and nobody wants to take advantage of it

>>15711086
They're super old testament
Names like moses abraham jedidiah

>the amish chad centenarian
>the short lived virgin vaxxie goyslopper

>>15709330
Being white
Not being sedentary
Religious like >>15709343 mentioned.
If a human has hope they find some truly creative ways to survive scenarios where others would just lay down and die. The body may fail, but the drive to push on does not. It's very powerful.

I don't put any stock in their vaccination or not because their autism rates have exploded like everyone elses has. Look it up.

>>15714546
there was a thread a few months ago about a study which showed that all religious people had substantially extended life expectancy as compared to the rest of the population.

>>15709330
less man made pathogens like viruses where the amish live unlike american cities

>>15709330
They're more physically active.
They're not breathing in burned gas car fumes every day
Less stress due to not being addicted to negative news 24/7

>>15709330
clickbait article with no real analysis behind it, where the fuck are the numbers

>>15711778
>I'd rather die at 60 with modern comforts

>>15709343
Link to rat study please? Sounds interesting

>>15711778
Doubt it because when 60 comes you'll be wishing for more years.

>>15713100
Umm.. go on... I'm listening

>>15711648
Well otherwise what would be the point?

>>15716269
It comes from this Facebook meme but if you read the actual paper it mentions nothing about hope, just that the rats didn't die of despair when the change of environment wasn't as abrupt.
https://doi.org/10.1097/00006842-195705000-00004
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.536.1405&rep=rep1&type=pdf

Physical activity

>>15711648
Do they use natural fertilizers and pesticides? Just because something is natural it doesn't mean it's safer than synthetic alternatives.

>>15717212
It is safer you moron.

>>15709343
>environmental stress
this literally kill people

>>15709330
Maybe they don't count infant mortality 0

>>15709343
>>15717250
>lower environmental stress

Oh so now we want to actually believe the environmental stress factor is legit huh?

When it came to stress factoring into epigenetic expression or affecting cortisol hormone levels, which lead to detrimental effects on various populations you didn't want to admit it was legit.

>>15717291
>i agree with this thing but other people didn't so i don't agree with myself
Not him but that's a ridiculous argument

>>15709330
>physically demanding jobs so they're fit
>big sense of community
>lack of stress most of the time
>simple honest day to day lives
>probably good quality food
>also access to modern healthcare when things turn south (most amish actually allow it, especially if someone's life is in danger)

So, basically they have everything that affects longevity that your common guy doesn't have + access to healthcare. No wonder they live for so long. But I'm also guessing that they have huge joint problems when they're older.

>>15709560
This desu. People are too obsessed with extending their lives.

>>15717350
0 is neutral here, not bad
>physically demanding jobs so they're fit
+
>big sense of community
0
>lack of stress most of the time
+
>simple honest day to day lives
0
>probably good quality food
0
>also access to modern healthcare when things turn south
-
(most amish actually allow it, especially if someone's life is in danger)
-
Evens out to 0.

>>15717355
>good quality food has zero effect on longevity
Are you legitimately retarded? Holy fucking shit.

>>15717359
>probably good quality food
>good quality food
Are you?

>>15717354
Easy dichotomy.
People who don't think they have anything to offer that's greater than their genes [EVEN IF THEY DO] should pass on their genes and die sooner.
People who do think they have something to offer that's greater than their genes [EVEN IF THEY DON"T] shouldn't pass on their genes but should live longer.
It's a tautology but nerds will hate it.

>>15711086
They're Germans (same thing as Jews)

>>15716276
Amish lifestyle

>>15717212
>Just because something is natural it doesn't mean it's safer than synthetic alternatives.
it does if you believe in evolution

>>15716532
Probably not reproducable.

>>15720133
because modern soientists consider it """"unethical""""

>>15720149
how can people who rape dogs consider experimenting on animals unethical?

>>15709330
Besides environmental factors like higher life satisfaction, exercise, good food etc. They have better quality genetics.
The Amish have stronger selection pressures than people subjected to more complex civilization, their culture also has some eugenic effects to it, conscientiousness is encouraged and those without it leave the group voluntarily.

When civilization collapses to small remnants as happens at the fall of Rome, Amish communities will become some of those remnants .

>>15717377
so jews are white?

>>15709330
not anymore

>>15712235
I'm not vaxxed though

>>15716273
I'm single with no kids, don't plan on ever having them. No point in living past 60 unless I'm in really good shape and look young for my age, it's possible but I'm not counting on it.

>>15709342
sorry to break it to you, cuckzynsky redditor
they also amount to nothing

>>15721575
They amount to nothing. You amount to nothing. They're healthy and fulfilled. You're chronically diseased and miserable. They win. You lose.

>>15720716
Did you really think you could post an image containing an ifunny watermark and not face consequences?

>>15721579
>
Health among the Amish is characterized by higher incidences of particular genetic disorders, especially among the Old Order Amish. These disorders include dwarfism,[1] Angelman syndrome,[2] and various metabolic disorders, such as Tay-Sachs disease,[3] as well as an unusual distribution of blood types.[4]
my bad cuck boi, i'm not convinced in your squealing sissy cope

>>15721592
Now compare the incidence rate of those diseases with the near-universality of chronic illnesses in golems like you.

>>15721596
amish have it worse
what now kek

>>15721604
Now eat your slop and take your meds.

>>15721575
>they also amount to nothing
Imagine unironically falling for the jewish psyop that you need the validation and admiration of complete strangers to "amount to something." There's no greater goal than raising a family and contributing positively to your local community. There's no greater legacy than being remembered by your grandchildren.

>>15721592
>wikipedia

>>15711684
That is wrong. You need both, and your diet and exercise routines must be personalized for your particular conditions.

>>15721714
guess how i know you come from a poor family, work some inferior low-paid job (maybe even something that involves manual labor like a low iq slave) and have no eductional certificate worth mentioning? i am worth a million times more to society than you ever will be. my life has meaning. my life has value. your life has none. you are not producing anything. you are not even consuming. you add nothing to society

>>15721405
A terrorist attack perpetrated by the biden administration right there. Anybody who believes there is a peaceful way out is delusional. Either all those demons are exterminated or humanity is doomed.

>>15722216
>i am worth a million times more to society than you ever will be. my life has meaning. my life has value.
All this cope. When it comes to "society" you're as replaceable as the next guy. Value to your family, friends, and community mean so much more than whatever intellectual slave labor you (or I) participate in.

So...did no one actually read the article?
It's talking about a mutant gene found in *some* members of the Amish community that enables them to live 10 years longer than their peers, however the gene is present in other humans as well, it just happens to be more present in the Amish.
>Individuals carrying a single non-functional copy of the gene SERPINE1 live an average of 10 years longer than other members of their communities, according to new research.
>Of the 177 people tested, 43 had the mutation. In the general population, Dr Vaughan said, similar mutations might occur at a rate of around one in 70,000 people.
>“We’re talking about something that appears to have an effect at molecular levels, at hormonal levels, at tissue levels, and plays out with people having a longer lifespan,” said Dr Vaughan.
>The mutation results in longer telomeres – caps at the end of DNA strands that protect the chromosomes. Shortening of telomeres has been implicated in the process of ageing, which may explain the mutation’s life-enhancing effects.
>Two copies of this non-functional gene, however, have quite the opposite effect. Instead of protecting individuals from disease, it is linked with excessive bleeding following injury.
>The fact that Amish people tend to be more interrelated than the wider population owing to their insular communities might explain the relative prevalence of the SERPINE1 mutation.

tl;dr inbreeding and lack of medical care culling those with weak genes enabled their community to have healthier bodies.

>>15722279
I wonder what the life expectancy of the average goyslopper would be if limited to the same amount of medical care received by the average Amish in 1900. Not insinuating anything here. Maybe you'd live long and prosper. I think it's make for an interesting scientific experiment.

>>15722313
It's a tricky subject. On one hand, modern medicine combined with a healthy lifestyle leads to the blue zone areas where people consistent hit ages of 90's and 100's. I would also not refuse medical help for my family if they got hit by a car or something.
On the other hand it keeps undesirable traits in the gene-pool and enables extremely unhealthy lifestyles that would have otherwise been mended out of urgency of seeing people die en-mass to it. Kinda like how antibiotics allow farmers to raise cattle in cheap but horrible conditions without running the risk of diseased meat. Of course it's an extreme example and society is not that bad just yet, but it's similar.
I am however very curious how weak our bodies could possibly get and how dependent we could become on medicine just to function normally before it explodes in our face. Unfortunately I probably won't be around to see it.

>>15709330
Now explain why their autism is going thru the roof

>>15722428
Vaccination.

>>15709330
99.9% chance its the lack of fat thats behind it.

being fat, or even moderately overweight, is so so so bad for you. it taxes literally every system in the body

>>15721403
No but neither are Germans

>>15722354
high vegetable diet is wrong actually.

>>15722279
Interesting. Thanks!

>>15709330
It is true that they have a better diet and more active lifestyle, but when you say "everyone else" who does that entail?

>>15722712
humanity

>>15722729
No such thing.

>>15722625
what's right then?

>>15722428
It's probably caused by inbreeding.

>>15722458
The Amish don't vaccinate.

>>15722712
Other Americans living in the same states as the Amish.

>>15709994
What's wrong with this?

>>15722625
The image isn't claiming that everything inside it leads to a longer life, it just highlights the common lifestyle elements in the 3 cities with highest life expectancy, and eating legumes is one of them.
I'm really not sure how "empowered" women leads to longer lives for example, but it just so happens that Okinawa and Sardinia are more matriarchal. Okinawa and Loma Linda drink no alcohol but people in Sardinia drink wine regularly so the image itself has elements in conflict, it's probably that "the whole" is more important than any one element.

>>15722922
>The Amish don't vaccinate.
They didn't use to but now they do and suddenly autism skyrockets. Wow.

>>15709330
Do they go to war and move in their lives?

>>15723426
Personally, I prefer a shorter life with lots of risk and no reward toiling away under a Jewish superior than some gay non-tech lifestyle in peace and quiet not being bothered by the nonsense of the world.

>>15723428
>lots of risk and no reward
The reward is that you get to continue feeding the coom-and-consoom addiction. The advanced goyslopper subspecies has very different needs from the non-evolved, you see.

>>15722915
you want to use plants primarily for their polyphenols, flavnoids, and micro nutrients, theyre basically containing almost no other nutrients humans especially need, the rest you want to get from meat. This is the ancestral diet also referred to as keto sometimes, but the important part isn't adherence to the diet, but the fact that animal products especially organ meat and other prized flesh is dense with most nutrients even compared to the best plants which were only around recently. Anyway because plants and bad animal raising practices often lead you to consuming a ton of pesticides you are pretty much screwed either way, but you can grow your own if you have tiime. avoid buying too many vegetables from the store unless its something you cant grow. avoid all seed oils and oils high in omega 6 polyunsaturated fats like canola, sunflower, and basedbean

>>15722354
>>15723303
Blue zones are bullshit.

>>15723450
>avoid all seed oils AND oils high in omega 6 polyunsaturated fats like canola, sunflower, and basedbean
The second half is just a description and listing of seed oils, those aren't separate things.

>>15723450
Carrots, potatoes and onions are great for you, in spite of the "anti-nutrients" found in their skin. Herbs like garlic, turmeric, black pepper, etc. have also been linked to a myriad of health benefits and longevity.
I'm not against meat, but the reality is that the longest living places on earth don't eat that much of it, which means anything that you might consider "essential meat nutrient" can either be supplemented from somewhere else, or as little as 5% of meat in your diet is enough to fulfill them. Which makes sense, we're omnivores, we adapted to live in places with both high and low availability of either plants or meats.

t. /fit/ck/ obsessed with living longer who researched every possible diet including the keto/atkins, carnivore, ray peat and whatever meme diet you can think of. Researchers often have convincing arguments about why carbs bad or milk bad, but then you look at data and see fucking italians eating just pasta in 50% of their diet, okinawans eating nothing but sweet potatoes with tofu, etc. Try being analytical and draw your own conclusions.
One thing I fully endorse meat for is muscle gains, it's nearly impossible to get big without animal products, without resorting to supplements. However weight lifting has also been associated with lower lifespan, all the centenarians were skinny and lived low stress, "low burn" lives without a lot of strenuous physical effort, you gotta pick your battles. If you live in modern society you probably can't afford a centenarian diet because your body needs the energy from carbs and meat to move boxes in your amazon warehouse job.

>>15723626
>carrots and potatoes and onions are great for you
unfortunately you cannot make a bulk of your diet on them throughout prehistory. I dont disagree that they have advantages, but the idea that they should form the bulk of a diet is pop science at best.

the latter category like herbs are another thing but I think you are forgetting a key factor in most use of plant matter through out the ages, particularly durring civilization. Vegetables of that nature where more than a source of food, they where a source of water. potatoes, carrots, and especially oniions all contain a ton of water, and fruits even more so. the sugar and carbohydrates that come with thehm are desirable by humans but no so much healthy for us, nor something we could rely on in times past the tail end of the neolithic revolution.

>>15723626
>okinawans eating nothing but sweet potatoes with tofu
>t. i have never been to okinawa
ur gullible af if you believe everything you've read about what people eat in okinawa

>>15724372
Studies refer to the centenarians and old people who grew there, Okinawa is a big place obviously and fairly popular with tourism from other parts of japan as well, which caused their diet to start changing lately.
>Specifically, the Okinawans circa 1950 ate sweet potatoes for 849 grams of the total 1262 grams of food that they consumed, which constituted 69% of their total daily calories.
> In the 21st century, the shifting dietary trend coincided with a decrease in longevity, where Okinawans actually developed a lower life expectancy than the Japanese average.

Unrelated but interesting thing I read lately is that apparently natto contains the only substance that can clear up accumulated fibrin from your arteries, might explain their lack of cardiovascular issues. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6043915/

>>15709330
>Whats the scientific explanation for this?
They live longer because they are based and redpilled and they know to avoid the international jew at all costs.

>>15720133
>>15720149
in France Univ we do reproduce this experiment and it does work

People who do physical labor are more intelligent than lazy people, physical fitness is the biggest factor in mental fitness. The body is 1 complete unit, weak muscles = weak brain

>>15726829
strong muscles = strong brain = long life

>>15719527
No? Cyanide is natural? Synthetic fertilizers and pesticides are made to be safe

>>15709330
Better food, better community, lower stress. Basic stuff

I see.

>>15727796
>Synthetic fertilizers and pesticides are made to be safe
they're made to generate profits for their producer

>>15709330
physical work and whole foods in a clean environment.

>>15723305
Sauce? There has to be really interesting numbers from Amish that do and don’t vaxx

>>15727796
Holy botman

>>15709330
I think we all know the answer

>>15726829
There’s no scientific evidence of that

>>15728376
The scientific evidence for it is overwhelming.

>>15728037
>>15728053
glyphosate as a higher ld50 than salt

>>15709898
forget it. you totally missed out on that opportunity

>>15728525
why?

>>15729323
the damage has been done

>>15722428
They're Germans

>>15728381
people who are too lazy to exercise just ignore all that evidence. same thing alcoholics do, laziness is an unhealthy addiction just like alcoholism

>>15730851
>laziness is an addiction
they call it affluneza

God favors the Amish with extended lifespan because of their piety

>>15714530

>>15733175
it seems absurd, but its clearly true

They don't have to live near blacks

>>15709330
Not sitting down for extended periods of time

>>15716532
Psychologists are all sadists.

>>15723303
>cities
>high life expectancy
choose one

>>15709330
Hitler predicted this.

>>15738119
Hitler was a brilliant man with an extraordinarily high IQ

>>15709330
might just be
oh i don't know

exercise

>>15738340
Also the fact that they don't eat processed food, don't pour chemicals all over their vegetables, don't pump pharmaceuticals into all their livestock, and prepare all their food in traditional ways.

>>15738346
>avoid soience
>live 10 years longer

>>15739777
Unironically, yes. They benefit from improvements in acute medical care because they're willing to make exceptions for medical emergencies, but avoiding everything else is obviously a boost to life expectancy.

>>15722216
Major cope

>>15721575
Niether will you
>ummmmm actually mr shekelberg is promoting me from vice managers assistant to senior executive report writer!

>>15722208
Mega based

>>15721592
>eat goyslop plastic
>get sick
>it says here you can only digest fresh vegetables and meats. looks like you have a metabolic disorder!

>>15722354
>Plant-heavy diet
Yeah if you compare it with americans eating 3 big macs a meal, for the rest of the world is normal to eat meat with veggies every other day.

>amish: lets live like its still the 1600s
>everyone else: lets trust what (((the media))) says and use modern science and technology to (((improve))) our lives
>everyone else: *has 15% shorter life expectancy than the amish*
if science is so great why isn't everyone else living substantially longer lives than the amish?

>>15740541
The key with the Amish is that they carefully consider new technology, and how it will impact their community; they also let outsiders use it first. They have no problem using modern tech if it meets those condition; for example trauma care has gotten really good, and is only something you use intermittently, so they have no issue sending people who fall off roofs or get hit by cars to the ER for treatment. Stuff like prepackaged food made in a factory they avoid, as they do not want to be dependant on outsiders for a basic good that you constantly need, like food. Avoiding the cheap, calorie dense, low saity foods science has produced is by far the biggest reason for their better health.

The reason they live longer is because they touch A LOT of grass.

>>15741769
>The key with the Amish is that they carefully consider new technology, and how it will impact their community; they also let outsiders use it first. They have no problem using modern tech if it meets those condition
Yeah, people always have huge misconceptions about how the Amish live and how they approach technology. They even use solar panels and cell phones these days.

>>15709330
why do they have Jewish faces?

>>15742913
Because they're German.

>>15709342
>no technology
This is false.
Amish have no problem with electricity, they just prefer to be self-sufficient with solar panels rather than being dependent upon the grid.
With the absolute state of American infrastructure, this is incredibly wise.
Also, the wheel is technology, and the Amish use those.
Retard.

>>15709342
What about the nips?

>>15723303
>I'm really not sure how "empowered" women leads to longer lives for example, but it just so happens that Okinawa and Sardinia are more matriarchal
probably all the nagging

>>15709342
>>15709343
no guns

>>15744310
Lots of Amish own guns. Plenty of the hunt wild game, and also use firearms to deal with wild animals threatening their crops & livestock.

Just lead a good old clean healthy lifestyle with plenty of exercise and you'll be as healthy as you can be. Seems so obvious, but so few people want to do it.

>>15728192
This. Amish don't live 10 years longer than everyone else, they live 30 years longer than niggers that shot and eat themselves to death.

>>15745570
What exactly is going on in this picture? I don't feel like the written context is a good match for the pictures, other than the obesity. It only looks like an EKG or similar? Which anyone can have.

>>15740541
>>15741769

I actually have a fairly solid Amish acquaintance that has done a lot of wood working/custom furniture for me. The mantle above my fireplace is actually hand hewn wood/beam from his great grandfather's barn from back in the day. I've been around their community enough to say I'm not an outsider and can joke with them.

They use solar for various electrical activities and can have the council/local church deacons decide if it warrants it. They are also not above using other...technologies via friends :). For example, when I'm there and google items online (for example wood working supplies), I will often purchase it and have him reimburse me. I've also helped him sell items online--so technically he's not using it--but you know...

>>15742978
Yep, while I'm sure that was a tongue in cheek joke, many people think they're Dutch--they're not--they're German (mostly). Pennsylvania Dutch is just a mistranslation/misuse of Deutsch. I've learned a bit of it and it's easy to see the German in it. Their kiddos start speaking Pennsylvania German and then learn English more as a second language. So if you wonder why they speak ponderously sometimes, that's my take away--it's literally a second language for them.

Every Amish person I've met is fit. Fucking serious. Maybe not 6 pack abs, none of that, but even older grandfathers are out chopping wood when I pull up--and while they may have a bit of paunch to them--they're fit and active. Sure, they grow natural but to be honest--sometimes they get GI shit due to that. It's mostly--they are fit--and eat small portions (Except Sundays!!). They chow down when they have services.

COVID smacked the local community I go around pretty badly. They move services every week to a new 'host' and usually it's a machine shop or literal barn sometimes. They sing in very tight spaces. My Amish friend lost 2 relatives, almost lost his dad. They were all very skeptical of COVID initially. Not anymore.

>>15709343
>remember those rats that held on longer when they had hope?
What the fuck, no?
What sick bastard did that study?

>>15716532
If this is true, just why? What have we even gained from all the sadistic psyche experiment? It's not like we are substantially better at dealing with people psychologically now because of shit like this.

>>15745922
(continued)

They're very nice people, extremely private and it took a long long while (talking 2 freaking years) before I could joke with him. Once they accept you though, yeah they're just like anyone else--can laugh at themselves and others. One ongoing joke I have with him is every time someone comes over to my house and sees our kitchen table--or office table or whatever--they always ask where I had it made. When I explains the Amish acquaintaince I have, they always say "Oh Amish, they do good work". So I told him this and said, surely even the Amish have a guy that everyone says "Man I hate that he sells Amish made anything, his furniture is junk and I wouldn't sit in one of his chairs if paid to"--and he laughed and said "Oh to be sure, we have a few of those...they tend to market the "Amish Made" label a bit more..so be nervous when you see that thrown around". Every time I get a new piece of furniture or whatever from him, I always comment well Amish do good work when I pick it up and we chuckle.

Last thing I'll say and it seems strange but shit I gotta comment---is the Amish wives. So I've met two Amish women, as in actual met and talked to for a bit, not seen in a window or bought bread from. Holy shit, they're legit PRETTY. And their husbands are legit NOT. Total mismatch in looks, I mean 8/10s married to 3/10s. And those 3/10s just pound babies into them. And no, they don't have arranged marriages. Shit I'm rambling about Amish, aight I'll stop but tl;dr. yeah they're fit/active and yeah they will use modern medicine when it calls for it.

>>15744310

lol, yeah...every Amish person I've been around has at least two guns--one rifle and one shotgun. Every Amish man I've ever met that talked hunting/guns has a 30-30 Winchester, it's like the official fucking rifle for the Amish lol. It's a hella good deer and yote rifle, is light, can withstand being tossed around...I get it--it just cracks me up

Never seen a handgun though, I don't think it aligns with their nonresistance (They actually are exempt from military service due to this).

>>15709330
Lower stress levels
A more active lifestyle
Healthy diet and no alcohol or cigarettes

It’s that simple

>>15746202
>It’s that simple
Sure is simple when you hide the total rejection of your own value system and lifestyle behind generic phrases like "low stress levels".

>>15709898
>Is the Amish lifestyle the key to life extension?
who would want to live longer if it means living like an amish? quality over quantity.

>>15746363
>who would want to live longer if it means living like an amish? quality over quantity.
How did they meme you animals into this belief? Truly astounding.

>>15746365
>"any kind of life is better than death"
the cry of the animal instinct, indeed.

>>15746202
However the big tradeoffs of massively reduced self-expression, no variety, very small worldview, and heavy dogma make the health benefits not worth the lifestyle.

>>15746400
You sound like you're having a psychotic episode. It is indeed better to be dead than to live the life of a mindless animal like you.

>>15746413
projection, the post.

>>15746407
You will never form a thought of your own. The notion that you enjoy "self-expression" is truly insane. Your entire being is an expression of systematic programming and social engineering.

>>15746415
How is the quality of your diseased and psychologically abusive cattle life better than theirs, in objective terms?

>>15746424
>your diseased and psychologically abusive cattle life
take your meds already. you are the exact analog to the incoherent ranting homeless guy from a random street corner.

>>15746418
>The notion that you enjoy "self-expression" is truly insane.
Why do you think Americans love freedom?

>>15746439
Because someone programmed them with the notion that "choosing" which brand to consume after being exposed to endless advertising is what true "freedom" means.

>>15746418
>You will never form a thought of your own. The notion that you enjoy "self-expression" is truly insane. Your entire being is an expression of systematic programming and social engineering
but not you. you are exempt. you are the shining beacon of human intellect, the final form of perfection.
or, alternatively, schizophrenia would make a hell of a drug.

>>15746431
Still waiting for any objective evidence that you have a better "quality of life".
>inb4 you spout purely subjective QoL metrics invented by """capitalist"""" """"liberal""""""" """""""""democracies"""""" to justify their existence

>>15746450
>but not you. you are exempt.
Seems that way -- otherwise I'd be spouting the same generic drivel you spout, since I'm exposed to the same social programming.

>>15746445
in 1776? Nah.

>>15746454
based on your posting history in this thread so far, schizo delusions were expected and duly observed.

>>15746460
>in 1776? Nah.
In 1776 they lived more or less the Amish, not like you. What a self-own.

>>15746466
America has never been an amish nation. Our constitution is not based on amish doctrine.

>>15746534
And? You sound literally disabled.

>>15746535
There is no and retard. America was built on ideas of freedom not amish doctrine.

>>15746439
>I love freedom
>but not the freedom to be Amish, that should be abolished because the Amish don't follow my MSM/CIA/ZOG programming

>>15747001
Thats right, freedom and self expression are limited to doing what the MSM tells you to do. You're free to express you positive opinions about negroes and jews, expressing any negative ones will result in dire consequences

>>15745854
>anyone can have a cardiac arrest at the mature age of 35
This is your brain of body "positivity"

>>15747903
atheists and goysloppers dying young is good news

>>15746542
>America was built on ideas of freedom not amish doctrine.
The Amish live the way your myrhical free people lived. You live like a golem slave.

>>15746202
They smoke. The women don't seem to. I live near amish people

>>15748963
They smoke real tobacco not cancerous cigarettes.

>>15709330
>have problems with my skin and hair for the longest time
>get goat milk soap from a store on an Amish farm
>skin and hair are suddenly doing better
The Amish know what the fuck they're doing, man.

>>15748901
this
they also know how to cure poison ivy
https://youtu.be/BBXVSnegoY4?t=90

>>15748966

>>15751141
Okay, now compare all that to homegrown tobacco and not globohomo cancer sticks.

>>15751511
The British Doctors Study didn't make that distinction

>>15728418
What a loltastic comparison. I bet ivermectin has a lower ld50 than glyphosate, what now retard?

>>15752023
Then it's not relevant to my point about the Amish smoking real tobacco instead of store-bought cigarettes full of rat poison and other shit.

>>15752872
Cigarettes don't cause cancer for anyone under 40

>>15754547
Thanks for the insight, Joe Camel.

>>15709330
>https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/amish-gene-lifespan-10-years-longer-mutant-discovery-indiana-a8055081.html
It's all the dog-murdering. Every dog they murder adds another six months to their life span, thanks to their pact with Lucifer, look it up.

>>15754553
Sorry if the science hurts your feelings

>>15709330
they don't vaccinate their kids

>>15756893
>amish pipo don season dey chillunz with mercury injections

>>15754553
kek. cencerstick shill BTFO. it's the exact same handful of people defending porn, goyslop and mRNA injections

>>15758321
Cigarettes don't cause cancer for anyone under 40
porn, goyslop and mRNA injections are harmful to everyone regardless ago

>>15723303
>Okinawa…drink no alcohol
they make nice brandy from sweet potatoes

>>15758318
lol

>>15738119
He predicted a lot of things very accurately

The Amish do far more science and engineering and basic problem solving on their farms than the schoolchildren in college ever do, thats why they're so much smarter and long lives than everyone else

>>15709330
>Control for obesity
>Average lifespan is 3 years lower
Sheeeeeit

Life extension trannys are starting threads on this board constantly wondering about how to live longer. In the ITT they are given the secret and not a single one of them will ever be willing to do what it takes to extend their lifespans

>>15728192
You are missing fugly ass white democrats in your menagerie.

>>15762111
Notice the fag dressed like a woman.

>>15762111
What I find hilarious (and sad) is how even that Nazi propaganda depicts Africans as being better dressed & better behaved than those Parisian future doctors look & act today.

>>15765931

>>15747001
No one said that