/sci/ - Science & Math

Please stop staging with renders. Especially the day after major events. Thanks

This is the Kármán line. Only space discussion below this post.

What are your jobs? Is it space related?

careful anons, this thread was hot staged

This is now a Starfield thread

How about no anime OR furry spam in this one?

>spaceflight is so normalized that nobody cared about crew-7

>>15696766
I kind of did, and I watched the launch, but it really does seem like space janitors going to the workplace at this point.

>Blue Streak-Gemini
>Nuclear flyback blue streak
wtf

>Blue Streak-Mercury
>Nuclear flyback blue streak
wtf

nationalize spaceX

>>15696766
I would have watched the vod in the morning if Clear hadn't streamed it.
Starlink launches have really made things routine. If SpaceX was only doing tradition payloads and transporter missions, things might still be interesting.
On second thought, it's not launches I'm tired of, it's Falcon 9. This current stretch of night launches has made it worse with the similar looking dark views at launch and booster landings. I hope for more launches on more rockets and soon.

HAVOC air balloon fleet to Venus to study skyquakes and infrasound surface seismometry

>>15696814
The Bell Island Boom. Ball lightning-induced skyquake

Didn't know until now that Space Forge sent an orbital semiconductor factory on the Virgin Orbit rocket that blew up.

Everyone talks about Varda, give me a QRD on these guys

>>15696766
Hard when it's at 3AM.

>>15696839

>>15696822
>On Sunday, April 2, 1978, a huge bang was heard at Bell Island just before noon. The bang was so loud that people reported hearing it as far as 100 km away.[232][233] The blast sent a shock wave that shook buildings on the island and killed some animals.[234] The energy release was so powerful that the Vela satellites (which the US government used to detect nuclear tests by other powers) noticed the phenomenon, now known as the Bell Island Boom
wew

I could get used to this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_in_spaceflight

Bridenstine says that SpaceX is becoming a “private monopoly.” What a fucking cunt lmao

>>15696897
Oh really? RocketLab and NASA are launching just fine with New Glenn in 2025 for medium lift, no SpaceX is not a monopoly, in fact a good portion of their launches are for their own satellites and not others.

>>15696880
Yeah it’s cool. If you’re looking for a serious explanation the answer is most likely a lightning superbolt, but it could also be a meteor. Other hypotheses include a sudden release of subsurface volatile gasses, coronal mass ejections (it is believed these can theoretically create sonic booms), underwater cave collapse, atmospheric ducting, etc. I need to research if lightning is currently generated on Venus but right now I’m busy researching how the fuck an RTG actually works. I get the basic concept but I’m struggling to understand how exactly a thermocouple works, and how it converts the heat energy from plutonium to electricity >:(

>>15696897
Even if that's the case, what is the solution? It's not like other launch companies are being held by something. Everyone is being judged based on their merits, and SpaceX just happens to mog the ever-loving shit out of its competitors in almost every regard. The only exceptions are when you need to launch something very small, something very big, or be absolutely 300% sure that it reaches orbit.

>>15696947
I was thinking about this last night; how much merit does ULA’s “le precise injection” argument hold? I assume they can pinpoint a little better than SX only because they run the later part of their missions with cryogenic centaur whereas SX use a gas generator kerolox stage or something? Does this ability even fucking matter in the grand scheme of things, like SX will still get your payload to where it needs to be

>>15696954
It's completely made up

>>15696947
>>15696954(me)
Also going to add: it’s still cost-effective to launch small shit on F9. You can go FH if you need something really big—and soon Starship (hopefully) if you need something REALLY big. And you want to be 300% sure it will reach orbit? I trust SpaceX reliability over pretty much anyone else at this point

>>15696956
>>15696764

>>15696958
If you want it 300% in your orbit then just launch on starship with 3+ tugs daisy chained

>>15696897
SpaceX is not at fault no one is trying to compete

>>15696764
She's a monstergirl not a furry, newfag

>>15696960
You aren't the boss

>>15696897
if someone high up at redwire told me theyd give me a cash bonus for mouthing off at spacex, i'd do it in a heartbeat. hell, i already do it for free here. fact is, bridenstine is and always will be big and based

>>15696984
Not really sure why redwire is trying to fuck themselves over.

>>15696987
you can actually sue spacex and still get good prices on rockets, see viasat. big jim is also on their board of directors. you havent learned how to play the game

>>15696987
They’ve aligned themselves with Blue Origin, that’s why

>>15696897
more like natural monopoloy. space is too expensive and difficult to compete in.

>>15696954
Orbit precision is about pointing and throttle control so they must have better control systems. I wouldn't doubt it, they've been doing this for a long time

>>15696897
they should put their eggs in the starliner basket. see how that works out for them

>>15696984
>bridenstine is and always will be big and based
>a guy who joined viasat

>>15697035
this is why you'll always be poor

did spacex announce when they're going to attempt another orbital flight?

>>15697064
Yup, two weeks

>>15697070
source or kys

>>15697074
I will provide one in two weeks

>>15697074
It’s common knowledge, you’ll see in a fortnight

Wenhop?

>>15696897
That's correct though if you just look at the market share growth. It doesn't even feel like opinion, even if it's a prediction.

Now "there is only one thing worse than a government monopoly" is pretty cringe. I think the cart was before the horse in either case. Pretending the government was in control of boeing/lockheed and made or broke them is a complete joke. All that's happened is one monopoly has been switched for another. The former was overpriced and gave us nothing to show for it. The new king will dominate space but we actually get new capabilities and technology. As long as elon has to remained aligned with the united states it doesn't seem too dangerous. If he gets richer than he deserves that was already going on before spacex existed.

>>15696839
someone brought up brilliant pebbles in a thread outside /sfg/ and I haven't seen people talk about them here much. Michael Griffin was friends with elon musk and he gave life to spacex when they hadn't proven themselves.. And their interests in a low altitude megaconstellation are aligned. Starlink military satellites exist, but do we know if they are just for communication? Elon doesn't seem to want to increase tensions with russia and china but if it meant the end of MAD I wonder if he would do it.

Of course none of this theory is required to be true. Spacex will make a ton of money on starlink.

Why was this vatnik allowed to fly on an American rocket?
What are NASA and US gov doing?

>>15696764

>>15697109
I'm sure PR people buff and polish the self introductions for them, but his was interesting. Dude's a free diver for fun and profit.

>>15697109
What a coward.
He should be in Bakhmut gaining centimeters of land for his country.

>take hypergolic LM ascent engine out of storage after 40 years
>fire it with methalox
Altair was so based

>>15697097
China has the launch capability to build its own brillant pebble so it's kinda useless

>>15696984
Funny you mention redwire, I just saw a dude in a redwire shirt

>>15697097
In a world where ASAT exists brilliant pebbles is dead
NGI has multiple payloads so I like to think it's a quick response brilliant pebbles equivalent

>>15696740
I’m an analyst in tech but not space tech. I would have loved to work at spacex, but I have kids now and couldn’t do the super demanding hours anymore. Maybe blue origin (they have much better work-life balance) but it might be disheartening to work at such an glum place because I fundamentally disagree with their oldspace management on how to get to space. I’ve worked at Boeing and it was the most soul crushing place because it felt like uninspired bureaucracy at every corner and no one was excited to do anything. Everyone was just collecting a paycheck and doing the bare minimum, with tons of diversity hires and no hiring based on competency. This essay more or less summarizes my feelings about ‘mid’ companies: https://www.palladiummag.com/2023/06/01/complex-systems-wont-survive-the-competence-crisis/

>>15697168
>fascistmag.com
ok chud

>>15696736
this

>>15696897
we need to bring down SpaceX (through lawsuits, smear campaigns or any other means) and bring back the 2010 status quo

>>15697160
I thought the issue was cost effectiveness though, and it's not even viable as of today because icbms are cheaper than the pebbles. I was wonder if starship changed that. Also everyone having brilliant pebbles is a good thing, it means nobody can nuke each other because the non-nuclear defense against nukes is better than nukes.

>>15697166
Yeah you could always shoot them down. But if the adversary is also a space nation or they have space nation allies, the idea of them causing kessler syndrome and bringing the world back to MAD may not look like a good deal. If I was going to use pebbles it would be against north korea first. I don't think russia and china would see space ruined to allow that shithole to persist, but I could be wrong.

For me? It's the 1958 Martins Dyna Soar

>>15697169
>>15697168
I like when systems aren’t shitty, fuck me, right? I want reliable, cheap electricity or functional infrastructure or a government that can competently respond to crises.

Technological progress is responsible for rapidly lifting billions of people out of subsistence farming into prosperity. If we want to keep raising standards of living, we need innovation and the market-based solutions are going to be the way we get there.

>>15697160
it really fucking does not despite what the chyna numba wan bots told you

>>15697097
russia is a big nothingburger and nobody gives a fuck what they think. Anybody with knowledge is seriously doubting what fraction of their claimed nooks are even usable. All their nuclear tests, both for carries and bombs, have failed miserably during the war. And with the staggering amounts of corruption on display nooks unmaintained for 30-40 years are just dirty bomb duds they keep on paper to make themselves look bigger then they really are.

chyna wants to play tough guy but clearly in the ukraine mold. that is conventional war in limited scenarios without strikes against the host bodies. they are too trade minded for the nook ooking mindset as the cave men up north and just in recent years has set out to expand their nook ook arsenal to anything barely above mid range power numbers. like france and UK have.

ironically the biggest resistance to Brilliant Pebbles type prototyping will come from within the us gov. Solely from political motivation as musky boy is king chud and democrats are hounding from him. This includes politicizing all sorts of governmental bodies like the military or fed agencies like faa

https://strawpoll.vote/polls/vq47hyyg/vote?s=0

>>15697179
God thats got a lewd nose

>>15696740
I worked at NASA at one point as an engineer. It's not the agency it once was. Tons of bureaucracy, DEI bullshit, and hardly actual science and engineering being done. All the meaty shit is done by contractors.

If you guys want to do cutting edge shit, go work at Lockheed, Northrop, or Boeing, in that order.

Imagine being the nerd using the scissor lift when everyone else gets boom lifts.

>>15697231
Fuck that I'm gonna work in India's space agency

>>15697238
>Next closure 8/28 8am - 8pm
starship rollout?

>irrelevant propellant wasting question

>>15697242
>kill me

>>15697242
yes, kerolox is good for rockets

>>15697238
whats that white truck doing there parked suspiciously blocking the view

>>15697224
Oh gosh idk. I haven’t baked a new bread in a long time, but I used to do it all the time. I would always alternate the style. I think both are valid, personally

>>15697243
what am I looking at

>>15697259
...here me out

>>15697249
idk

>>15697243
hmmm

>>15696897
>Bridenstine says that SpaceX is becoming a “private monopoly.”

Bridenstine literally works for a Starlink competitor now.

>>15697195
>it really fucking does not despite what the chyna numba wan bots told you

Phase I Brillant Pebble was 4,000 Interceptors of 40kg, so 160tons,
China sent 188 tons to orbit between Q3 2022 and Q2 2023 (SpaceX sent 802t)
They absolutely can do it. They also have the launch responsiveness to replace them.
Even Russia could *launch* them, with ~70 tons in the past year, just take more time.

>>15696954
>how much merit does ULA’s “le precise injection” argument hold?

It is literally just marketing buzzwords to cope for the fact that their rockets are optimized for higher orbit launches but are getting priced out by Falcon 9.

>>15696978
Same thing, actual newfag

https://twitter.com/ATabarrok/status/1695459110345687382

The pushback against this frivolous DOJ suit is incredible

>>15697291
Wow not at all you clueless newfag, someone post the pic

>>15697160
If they go all in China likely has the launch capacity to build a brilliant pebbles but without reuse they will be really eating it.

>>15697299

>>15697284
Possibly. I've always had doubts about the quality and longevity of Chinese space-rated electronics. One of the major reasons why the Russo-Chinese negotiations for the RD-180 fell through was because the satellite components Russia was going to be receiving were trash that failed almost as soon as they got to orbit. Terrible hardware longevity would mandate a high launch rate for China just like it did for the Soviets back in the day, and if your interceptor constellation is losing components fast replacing them could easily exceed the available launch capacity.

>>15697295
This one?

>>15697310
Could be that, could be that they're rapidly iterating on whatever it is they're trying to get ahead in (top of the list is hyperspectral, I guess). They don't seem to be having any serious issues on their space station either

A ton of their launches go direct to SSO, do not pass go

>>15696791
lmao wut

>>15697294
The reaction tells me that SpaceX wasn't wrong how it approached hiring compared to everyone else, even if it might be wrong with the letter of the law.

Everyone knows the DOJ is singling out SpaceX.

>>15697314
nah there was another one that compared monstergirls to furry but w/e

>>15697294
>a bunch of literal who alt right twitter tranny hacks all rushing to elon musks defense, having their opinions boosted forcefully by musk himself
wow yes so incredible!

>>15697331
Even I was at first cringing at this cry of "weaponizing the justice system" but now after seeing this shit I'm starting to believe it

>>15697314

>>15696766
did not even bother to wake up for it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vE95eBX6M0
>How SpaceX Reinvented The Rocket!

new vid, looks good

>>15697314
holy shit you really are a newfag

>>15697342
it's just a redstone that runs on methane. effectively no new technology in it, it's so easy

>>15697317
They're not having any problems on their station that they can't keep quiet by just not talking about them. They are in the habit of doing completely unannounced spacewalks which could be cover for maintenance or replacement of systems.

It's probably not as much of an issue as I'm making it out to be. Just because the Russians descried their gear as being "of expected Chinese quality" back in 2015 doesn't mean they haven't improved in the last decade. Chinese propulsion science has gone from wanting to buy Russian to being comfortable building it themselves in the same time frame.

SMART reuse is coming

Blessed shuttle evolution

>>15696766
Did people care about every Shuttle and Soyuz launch to the ISS back in the day?

>>15697350
Why cant vulcan just land? doesnt seem hard

>>15696766
50+ years of LEO
4 years of Lunar

>>15697336
t.

>>15696829
tryhard font

>>15697354
>every Shuttle
Absolutely lol, Shuttle had a huge following, ridiculous even.
>Soyuz
Eh less

>>15697356
The Vulcan has two large engines. Even minimum thrust is too much for a safe and accurate landing.

Brilliant pebbles is a meme; the attacker has an enormous force concentration advantage because the defender has to defend the ENTIRE SKY.
You need thousands of satellites just to be able to intercept 1 (one) ICBM.

>>15697356
Vulcan is optimized for high orbits meaning the core goes too fast and would require significant shielding to protect itself from heat upon reentry.

>>15697356
Centaur V is fairly low thrust stage so the Vulcan booster has to pick up a lot more speed before MECO. That means that it has to have a lot stronger TPS than the Falcon 9 does to deal with shedding the heat from that extra velocity. Propulsive landing also has some pretty strong throttling requirements that are a lot easier to meet with a cluster of small engines than a pair of big ones.

>>15696740
I am a satellite operator

>>15697351
Blessed shuttle evolution would be it getting killed in the cradle the second its design deviated from rapid reusability. Shuttle was so fucking gay and irredeemable it’s unreal

>>15697360
That was my first thought too kek. Many such cases!

>>15697080
2 weeks see >>15697070
im not kidding

>>15697356
ULA buys third party engines and makes tanks. SMART is a financial optimum for them.

>>15696995
That's because they have the only game in town, you retard. If you think for two seconds Elon thought that telling Viasat to go fuck themselves wouldn't put an arrow in the quiver of a potential anti-trust case he absolutely would cockblock them to wait on BO and Ariane, lmao. They would crash and burn almost overnight if literally anyone else was in the market capable of launching the payloads Viasat needs up in space.

>>15697294
the DOJ should focus on prosecuting Scientology not Gotsent SpaceX

>>15697351
>he calls that a shuttle
here's a real shuttle proposal from people on a diet of vodka and potatoes

>>15697109
Insane Slavic phenotype. Looks like a fucking vampire spawn.

>>15697396
looks like an opossum

>>15697396
Hell yeah

>>15697342
How can I tell which YouTube account isn't click bait or not? I always thought the one in vid was not sincere going by the thumb nail.

>>15697403
Most spaceflight-related youtube vids are soi as hell no matter what so it’s a sort of pick-your-poison scenario

>>15697366
Even disregarding the economics, the construction of an ABM constellation is impossible to hide and it will cause an arms race with all the other parties adopting a hair-trigger launch-on-warning stance to counter not having a credible second-strike capability.

>>15697314
stop it

>>15697403
that's my beef with primal space. I went months seeing their videos in my feed and not clicking them on principle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89zdHsb2pWU
would you click this? turns out it's a pretty informative video on a bunker under the launch pad at ksc, but fuck me if the title makes me not want to watch it.

>>15697403
this one actually puts in effort for interesting original videos, surprised me too

>>15697408
Unless you disguise it as an ISP like Starlink.

WHERE THR FUCK ARE YOU, COST PLUS CONTENT ANON

>>15697403
Over more than a decade of youtubing I've developed a keen sense for it. also >>15697407

How powerful is the Space Force, is there literally anything they don't monitor?

>>15697403
Usually the ones that aren't just commenting on current events are worth watching.

>>15697403
You need to play the youtube game if you want to survive there, at this point I just accepted that clickbait titles don't make the content bad.

>>15697423
Ok, you have your ABM constellation and can nuke/invade 1 party at-will before your hand is revealed and >>15697408 happens with the remaining parties. Now what?

>>15697456
Nuke both Russia and China in the same strike and the problem goes away forever. North Korea, Iran, Pakistan, India, Israel can be dealt with piecemeal once the big threats are gone.

>>15697433
It's literally their job dude, if it's in orbit, they want to know about it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Fence

>>15697466
We would have world peace right now if MacAurthur got to drop ze bomb on china and McCarthy got to round up all commies. Imagine von Braun getting an unlimited budget because the MIC simply didn’t need to exist ugh

https://www.spacex.com/follow-dragon/index.html

>>15697488
>Uses Azure
Elon really did stop paying Google for cloud services lmao

>>15697425
On his way to Alpha Centauri

>>15697359
good lookin cake

>>15697517
It's probably made of vegan compliant nutritive styrofoam and frosted with stevia-based spackle.

https://twitter.com/Ian_Benecken/status/1695549929777762674

Complacency..

>>15697536
not that easy in patchery

>>15697536
It’s over for NASA wagies

>>15697536
This is like SpaceX spitting on veterans

>>15697536
Oh no... not the critically important patches...

>>15697536
I officially have zero faith in artemis. People are going to get challenger’d

>>15697536
SpaceX's first failure in years

>>15697564
no one gives a fuck about patches except for crusty old boomers.

>>15697571
It should be a bigger concern that they didn't actually install or test the life support systems on Artemis I.

>>15697571
what would the effect be on SpaceX?

>>15697579
You’re a huge fag, I dunno if anyone has ever revealed this to you

>>15697536
hahahaha that's great

>>15697579
true

>>15697536
>page is down
>page cannot be found
>page cannot be found
>page is down

Twitter has actually gone to shit since Elon took over, links don't even load half the fucking time. BUILD THE FUCKING ROCKETS.

>>15697591
works fine

>>15697581
Might gain funding for a Falcon Heavy/Crew Dragon replacement for SLS while losing out on launching the outer planets missions that the now available SLS could facilitate.

>>15697591
it loads fine for me. Prob a skill issue

>>15697536
who had the responsability to do this?

>>15697651
Either JSC or KSC employees

>>15697667
99% likelihood it was supposed to be a Johnson thing in Houston. They do most of the fabrication work/food prep for cargo that goes up to the station

>>15697671
why do they have such a retarded cluttered desk?

>>15697684
Idk, all the processing rooms have that engineering major “organized chaos” vibe

>>15697684
that desk's not even that bad though

>>15697536
>The complex technical demands of a Van Halen flight ultimately had a notable side-effect on modern spaceflight, especially via the provider's technical contract-rider. The band used contract-riders to verify the launch table's power availability, security, structural and weight distribution details. Their now-infamous riders specified that a bowl of mission patches was to be placed in their dressing room and, separately, in a different area of the contract, that all of the brown mission patches were to be removed.[124] According to both manager Noel Monk and Roth, this was listed in the technical portion of the contract not because the band wanted to make capricious demands of the launch provider, but rather as a test to see if the electrical, structural, security, and safety requirements in the rider had been thoroughly observed.[125] If the bowl, without brown mission patches was present, then the band, management and crew could safely assume the other, more legitimate concerns in the technical rider were fulfilled; conversely, if the bowl was missing, or brown mission patches were present, then Van Halen management would be within their rights to have their crew or the launch provider inspect the work, redo it or even cancel the night's launch at the provider's expense.

huh?

>>15697700
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Van+Halen+flight

what the fuck are you quoting

That one brief moment when they managed to land and everyone was cheering for India despite all the racism from 4Chan, that's what I live for.

>>15697403
It's scary dude. You click one piece of shit and even if you close the video in a few seconds your feed is poisoned with garbage forever

>>15697726
>what is watch history

>>15697718
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Halen#Contract_riders

>>15697718
Zoomers don't know about band contract riders

>>15697726
What's even more hilarious is searching for playlists, which is not SafeSearch filtered or algorithmically adjusted
Scroll down a bit and you'll get explicit porn and people who spam SEO garbage in their video info

>>15697726
no it isnt you retard, just click on the video and say not interested
the feed will adjust if you do that enough (probably depends on how many shitty videos you have clicked on)

Things I'm excited for in upcoming spaceflight

>Dragonfly Titan drone
>PSYCHE Mission (yeah popsci mush I think its cool)
>Pangea Aerospace Aerospike, GRCop42 implementation
>Dual Mode Nuclear Propulsion, combo Nuclear Thermal Rocket and Reactor-Powered Ion Drive
>SLS/Artemis Cancelation

https://x.com/fccspace/status/1695154126319964453
Why did none of you fags post this? Either way it is now less than two weeks.

>>15697806
>FCC

>>15697811
Yes I know its not FAA.

>>15697806
It was posted at least twice already you double faggot

>>15697814
Might wanna kill yourself now.

>>15697822
take your own advice
>>15694388

>>15697822
previous thread you brainlet

>>15697787
>Dragonfly Titan drone

Literally what is there to be excited about this garbage. 2030 something and it's not even going to the lakes THE MAIN FUCKING THING WE WANT TO SEE. Behead NASA roundhouse kick NASA babies into trash compactors push NASA slowly across a table saw crucify NASA boil NASA in a vat of acid feed NASA its ground up babies pull NASA apart limb by limb with horses

>>15697806
It was already posted twice :)

>>15697832
Calm down, it will inevitably survive past its main mission and get extended (literally ever NASA mission does this) and they will take it to the lakes. Flying on titan is so fucking easy, it will quite literally take a minuscule amount of power to traverse the whole moon if they wanted to

>>15697839
Okay well if this is the case, why not design it to explore the whole planet in the first place. Throw a submersible rideshare along with the mission. Something. ANYTHING other than
>this will launch in two decades after delays, take fifty bajillion years to get there, and only explore one area :^]

if people want to compete with space x
why don't they launch rockets?

>>15697846
Space is hard, Elon man evil

Canoo van a cute

>>15697846
Because SpaceX has a pretty substantial lead and trying to get out ahead of that is both hard and expensive and everyone who is in a position to try is used to getting extra government money for less effort.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTjZ7FCCOu0
T-25:00 to the next boring standard starlink launch, if anyone cares

>>15697846
gradatim ferociter

>>15697856
>blue origin founded in 2020
>still hasn't launched

truly
gradatim

It's actually insane how mindfucked normies are that

>Lol Elon man is scammer all of his companies are flops and losing money
>Model X most sold car on the planet last quarter
>SpaceX too successful need daddy government to step in and stop scammer man

All coexist inside the same head

>>15697860
blue origin was founded 8th september 2000
spacex was founded 14th march 2002

>>15697865
Model Y, X is the 100k premium big car with falcon wings

>>15697865
>To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again: and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself -- that was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word 'doublethink' involved the use of doublethink.

1984 wasn't supposed to be a guidebook.

RARE 4ASS captcha

>>15697855
T-5:00

https://twitter.com/SpaceX/status/1695602058672717922

Starlink launch video live

>>15697898
yt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEClIbWr3m0

launch

>STILL NO DECENT REAL TIME FOOTAGE

>4000km/h just from burning some gas out of a pipe
lmao people really believe this?

>>15697909
So true sister

nice s1 view

https://youtu.be/ekuLHUp_5Nw
>Clear speaking cute English

it's suss that they like never show starlink deployment any more right?

>no commentary
Finally, FINALLY

Welcome for Starlink launches holy fuck

>>15697917
It would be an excellent way to covert deploy glowsats yeah

>just pure rocket audio ambience and mission control callouts

FINALLY
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>>15697915
So cute... I need Elon to notice her...

>>15697921
It's comfy listening to the throttle down for MaxQ

>>15697922
>Clear becomes the official SpaceX host and Elon tweets out her stream on X

omg they landed an orbital-class booster

>>15697433
the nro is a joint organization between the space force and the cia. space force is more like an intelligence agency than a fighting force. so they're not very powerful but they watch you masturbate.

>>15697924
omg omg omg! this surely means i won't be a loser anymore and will be leaving on mars with my asari/twilek waifu in 10~ years
yasss elon!

>>15697924
Jeff did it first. Cope

>>15697909
When you squeeze the tip of a garden hose thats on full blast, what happens?

>>15697846
because the market isnt there!!! HELLO???

>>15697879
>1984 wasn't supposed to be a guidebook.
If I have to hear that reddit line one more time I might make a really fucking awful post (worse than this one). please spare me anon

does starlink work on cloudy days

>>15697889
Nice
>>15697929
This is my hope :)

>>15697918
>>15697921
Did the technical webcasts have the rocket audio? I forgot if they were like these new Starlink webcasts or if it was only mission control like the current mission control audiocasts plus the video. Never understood why they stopped doing them with that handy video feed switcher thing although the mission audio that starts before and goes for longer is very much appreciated.

>>15697943
yes
t. starlink

>>15697934
>bro just poor gasoline into a sodacan and watch it fly into the atmosphere!

Torricelli was a fraud, atmosphere doesn't exist and vacuums are Italian lies

i cant go anywhere online except spaceflight forums without seeing someone talk about "apartheid elon" and nobody should have enough money to create a space program better than nasa.

>>15697955
you should have learned how ignore idiots in Internet 101, which you needed an 80% or better to pass in order to get your Browser Permit. Go re-take the test, you clearly cheated

WHO ORDERED ALL THESE FUCKING RAPTORS

>>15697962
Kek

>>15697536
he burned my patch

>>15697951
>poor gasoline

Liquid cryogenic Kerosene (RP-1) frozen to

>>15697943
yeah, it uses a different frequency compared to GEOsats so it penetrates clouds better

>>15697966
10ghz ish to be exact

https://twitter.com/ATabarrok/status/1695459110345687382/photo/1

LMAO. DOJ will sue DOJ

>>15697968
Spamming stupid twitter shit ≠ interesting /sfg/ content worth sharing with the general

>>15697968
As it turns out, the government is immune to this particular law. (As it turns out, the AG has the power to make anyone immune to it.)

>>15697951
don't do this it makes mustard gas

>>15697955
>nobody should have enough money to create a space program better than nasa.
this is correct, but not because people shouldn't have a lot of money

>>15697832
The seismograph will at least allow measurement of wave dynamics and mapping of Titan's planetary layers, but other than that, yeah, it seems like a pretty shit mission from a planning standpoint. I swear they slow-roll this shit specifically to avoid answering questions about whether or not there's life out there.

>>15697970
twitter? what's that?

>>15697832
I wonder how they'd pull off a lake mission

Subs are out, you need to be in positive control at all times. Boats would be interesting but you can't land one unless it's skycrane style. Driving along the beach would be hazardous in the extreme. NASA would additionally go insane trying to sterilize whatever they send, because muh life

Why hasnt spacex done more to help these women that look like men in their space suits. The white front pattern of the suit has a taper to it and they called it a day.

>>15697987
>Boats would be interesting but you can't land one unless it's skycrane style

Ok, what if, wild concept here, a boat with wheels.

>>15697990
>mass autism
NASA would spend a billion dollars trying to land on the lake than add redundant propulsion modes

>>15697989
they literally gave her an hourglass figure. what more do you want? tit plates?

>>15697995
>tit plates?
NTA, but yes.

>>15697994
You could potentially get one of those wheels with huge treads that are also paddlewheels I suppose

>>15697995
Some more changes to the suits so they don't get felt up when somebody thought they were opening a refridgerator

>>15697987
>Boats would be interesting but you can't land one unless it's skycrane style.
ULA seems to be quite confident in using an inflatable heatshield as flotation device for SMART recovery purposes.

>>15697987
Landing on titan is so fucking easy, you don’t need a skycrane bro

>>15697939
If it's so reddit, then how come it's true?
Checkmate, Mastodon.

>dragon 2 can carry 7 people
are we ever going to see this?

>>15697915
missed the stream ;_;
Clear was very Max-Qute today!

>>15698001
just find a different, unique way to say the same thing

>>15698003
Maybe when Dream Chaser and HTV-X are both operating and NASA doesn't need all the cargo space they can cram and can add more seats

>>15697139
I had a Constellation phase as a child. I played Moonbase Alpha unironically. In hindsight Constellation was shit but I wish people talked about it more.

>>15698014
AEIOU

>>15698014
we should have gotten Altair, it was so cool, but now with Starship HLS, it just feels like too little for such a long awaited return

>>15698018
It would have been a better bet than starship, but only if they kept development going. Starship is based but it was chosen so fucking late (through no fault of SX. I’m complaining about NASA here. Who tf thought it would be a good idea to BEGIN a lander competition right before they wanted a landing, with commercial partners, when nobody has landed something that big on the Moon in like 50 years)

>>15698020
Yeah just absolutely fucked timing and priorities its sad but whatever, Starship is now, the era of crappy plucky landers is done

Could SLS as it is now even fit Altair?

>>15698018
What height can you fall from the moon and still be ok?

How could you resist doing a jumping flag plant right there. Who can punish you? No one is going to the moon twice in the foreseeable future, and that moment in your career can't be topped. You would be the hero of the people. Also imagine if there is historical footage of the mission commander spilling his coffee and turning red as ed harris.

>>15696740
I am accumulating a wide range of specialty skills that would make me a reasonable candidate for the phase of lunar exploration where the goal is beginning to build out infrastructure. Currently working on learning to fly helicopters, machining, and electrical engineering.

Why was the landing stage so fuckhueg compared to the ascent stage?

>>15698028
no. now give me 60 billion dollars to develop block 2

>>15698031
americans got fatter

>>15698032
ffffffuuuuuuuuuck

>https://x.com/fccspace/status/1695154126319964453
Has anyone posted this yet? Seems promising for Starship, even if FAA verification is the one which really matters.

>>15698039(You)

>>15698039
Why is there porn of a cartoon fox

Why am I seeing it

>>15697832
from what anons have told me months ago, it can't get to the poles due to communication issues

>>15698039
this means they want to try to launch, FCC is super easy to get because they don't give a shit about this sort of thing

>>15698030
>fly helicopters
You might be better served learning how to handle quad- or hex- copters. Any kind of moon-hopper will probably resemble one of them.

>>15698028
Nope! Couldn’t even fit in a Block 1b cargo, and it would be too heavy. It could only fly on a Block 2 cargo, and even still it would literally be maxing out the capabilities

>>15698057
That's so fucked, it was overdesigned so Ares V could only lift it I bet

>>15698064
Well I guess but you’re thinking about it a bit wrong. Remember, the original plan was to have both Ares I and Ares V. So I don’t blame them for designing it to fit comfortably in an Ares V (60-70 T to TLI)
Altair is about 46T, which is coincidentally exactly what Space Launch System Block 2 is maxxed out at for TLI

>>15698029
I believe the danger is more in how you could fuck up the EVA suit rather than your body itself.

>>15696805
Privatize the US government

>>15698050
Being a pilot is more of an all-round bonus. It requires on-the-spot decision making and control input with the lives of others and yourself on the line. It demonstrates that you're able to go through many hours of training and then execute on that training. And specifically with helicopters, it shows that you're the right balance of mentally stable and unstable to be willing to climb into an ungainly beast of a machine that wants to destroy itself and you, then successfully command it to not do that while also doing productive work.
I would like to build some kind of vectored-thrust testbed vehicle as an engineering and control exercise, but certainly not at a man-carrying size right out the gate.

>>15696897
>Mom, I posted it again

>>15698088
Dangerously based

>>15697166
Use lasers instead.

>>15697080
The time to hop has ended. The time to throw skyscrapers into space is 14 days away.

>>15697109
Ukraine just isn't as important as you think it is

>>15698100
>not a single one of those people give a shit about space
Let that sink in

>>15698106
https://twitter.com/jeff_gluck/status/1695603654542127471

>>15697536
The patches are like brown m&ms. If they forgot the patches how do we know they remembered the important stuff, like propellant or life support systems or the right number of astronauts?

Deeply concerning!

>>15697700
kek, I thought the same thing

>>15697725
Not me. It is not enough that Space X succeeds. Others must fail.

>>15697923
Sorry, sweaty. Elon is anti-trans agenda

>>15697951
I just tried this and it worked fine. Potential skill issue on your end.

>>15697109
He brazenly hand signaled white power on national tv. Why can he get away with it?

>>15698117
Thank God

Vid of rocket launch and race
https://twitter.com/Florida_Hawkeye/status/1695639509029773688

>>15698029
E = m g_e h_e = m g_m h_m

h_m = h_e g_e / g_m

About six times the height you could fall from on Earth. You'd have the same kinetic energy and hit at the same speed, so it should be pretty similar, except that your weight would be less.

>>15698084
You can be "that guy that ripped his spacesuit on the moon", or even "the first guy that died on the moon".

>>15698135
why do americans have all the most boring sports imaginable

>>15698153
The rest of the world watches soccer, it doesn’t get more boring than that

>>15698153
we'll if you're such a hot shot driver why don't you try turning left

thought so

>>15698153
"boring"
>>134427352
>>134427555
>>134427663

>>15698153
>boring
>>>/sp/134427352
>>>/sp/134427555
>>>/sp/134427663

>>15698155
NASCAR is objectively gay. They banned the confederate flag and they have an affirmative action no talent negro driver

>>15698141
>fall face first and break your helmet
>become popcorn

>>15698191
see >>15698120

>>15698152
That was the best part of For All Mankind, especially because of how he died

>>15695824
https://youtu.be/dRcHTdWY5lU?si=upAbaYMSIUh8Jr6b

Metallic hydrogen linear aerospike SSTO spaceplane

Can we get a RUD on the drone ship just for shits and giggles?

>>15698250
That's literally the only reason I watch the streams. It's bound to happen eventually and I want to be there.

>>15698250
For New Glenn? Gosh I hope so

>>15698160
High speed traffic… woah

https://youtu.be/jpeXODoOIPs?si=FPkHa0Hg9PejGQqe
25 year anniversary! Maiden launch with a satellite aboard kek

>>15698267
>Total Launches: 3
>Success(es): 0

https://twitter.com/CSI_Starbase/status/1695249945228627976

ITS OVER SPACEX IS FINISHED!!

>>15698278
https://twitter.com/SeanKD_Photos/status/1695663748487303593

literally how is vulcan centaur not ready yet lmfao

>>15698278
The age of the tentshed is over, the age of the gigganigga bay is here!

>>15698251
Same here pretty much
Everytime I miss one, the first thing on my mind is "damn did I miss it blowing up?"
Apparently, Crew-7 had a little excitement with the entry burn being short but that was probably planned.

>>15698253
That too, if anything to shut the retards up. Hope they don't try a payload first go

>>15698272
kek even Astra was better than this

New BO patent just dropped. Will sue if you try to copy it :^)

>>15698289
Yeah I was like this is it when the entry burn was like 2 seconds long but it was a big nothingburger

>>15698287
bureaucracy and incompetence

>>15698325
>exposed ceramic tiles can absorb water and therefore must be waterproofed before every launch, an undesirable effect that can add unwanted mass to a booster
>so uhhh… let’s shroud each tile in metal
6D thinking there Jeff

>>15698349
With vapor deposition it doesn't have to be that much metal

>>15698325
Didn't ULA solve metallic TPS for Venturestar?

>>15698361
They call out inconel sheets by name
>>15698365
Yes but those were different and they were low temperature tiles only

>>15697995
Why doesn't this show up on archived.moe? Usually I can find deleted posts but not this one

>>15698399
Archive.moe is trash, use warosu.

>>15698278
This was already posted dear nigger poster

>>15698399
It was krystal porn so hot I'm on a round of fluids in the emergency room

No it was just some anon who replied about the women's spacesuit that deleted his post really fast

>>15697865
Normies don't systematize knowledge. They see the world as a set of unconnected ideas that rattle around in their heads like a bag of marbles. Current year politics makes the problem worse than it already would be, by punishing the most obvious and basic uses of pattern recognition as an "-ism" or "-phobia".

>>15697772
This
Hitting dislike might also help, as will reporting the video for spam or misinformation.
I haven't seen even one of those for months now.

You know, its interesting how no matter the background or ideology anything space related seems to pull anyone from anywhere. I think that /sfg/ is a testament to that. Gn bros, whoever you are. Oh and gm to jeetsirs.

that's it im gonna print the sloth discussion from the last thread

>>15698465
And do what? Put it in your scrapbook?

>>15698454
My dad started getting swarmed with shit like "X celebrity has just died, like and subscribe to pay respects" until I showed him how to report shit and click "not interested". Seems ok now.

>>15698470
post it on r/4chan to farm reddit karma

>>15698465
What about the "what is or isn't a furry" discussion?

>>15698481
literal cancer

>>15698481
What about the "what is or isn't a spaceplane" discussion?

Very pleased with my results desu

REALLY looking forward to when we get out own reddit cadres baiting bullshit in these threads for epic 4chan screenshot karma

>>15698500
or xwitter likes

>>15698500
The Krystal posting and disdain for niggers keeps most of them away.

https://twitter.com/VickiCocks15/status/1695715385629176281

Good morning sir

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg

Ahh music to my ears.

Happy 4th anniversary, Starhopper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYb3bfA6_sQ

>>15698517
Good morning Sir

Sayonara, mid-bay
https://twitter.com/AnthonyFGomez/status/1695730415846248790

>>15698155
>it doesn’t get more boring than that
challenge.
accepted.

>>15698250
i want her stick thar lolipop in her tootsie

>>15698465
print?

>>15698613
Four years....

>>15698714
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Iqr0L4bUms

>>15698708
I wanna make it prettier but not right now

>download gunner heat pc
>tank sim
>some dude hiding in the bushes kills me with atgm from 2km away
Absolute garbage game. fuck /k/. fuck missiles

>>15698742
You call this a screencap?

>>15698741
Seems bretty realistic, wrong thread btw kys gameslop consoomer

>>15698763
it seems you can't read words

>>15697356
Thoughts on Tory Bruno explaining ULA's edge?

>>15698767
Sundays is offtopic day because of low traffic
Everybody knows this.

>>15698805
Falcon Chubby has done direct to GEO insertions for commercial customers so basically his whole chart is invalid.

>>15697822
>phoneposting nigger
you should take your advice and shove it up your fat retarded ass

>>15697854
I thought that /sfg/ hates it because it's not Cybertruck

>>15698876
I hate it because it's fucking hideous and for no other reason.

>Smart Recovery methods
>doesn't just land right back where you want it to

Makes you think

>>15697865
Jews did nothing wrong

>>15698805
LEO is 99% of the difficulty
after LEO you are just shrinking payload to get to your desired orbit

>>15697865
You don't know what "normies" think because you don't go outside.

>>15698928
!!! MIDWIT DETECTED !!!
!!! MIDWIT DETECTED !!!
!!! MIDWIT DETECTED !!!

They docked

$75m for this project.
How much would an Indian Falcon 9 or Starship cost?

>>15698805
ULA doesn't want you to know Falcon Heavy has more throw than Delta IV Heavy or any Atlas V configuration.

>>15698695
Seek help

>>15699020
Falcon 9 costs ~$30M to build out. Refurb launch costs is ~$10M. Customers pay ~$50M on bulk order and ~$70M on one off order

>>15696729
Indian space station

>>15699111
Superpower by 2035

>>15699115
Do you have a source for this?

ITS OVER

>>15699111
2035? lol we’re all going to be living on Vast™ 100-meter spinning stick stations™ by then.

>>15699115
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwDPTThyfYc

>>15699111
Looks dumpy

>>15699125
QUICK /SFG/ HOW CAN WE BLAME THE FAA? OR BIDEN? PLEASE TELL ME HOW I CAN SUGARCOAT THIS!

>>15699139
ELON MUSK IS A FRAUD. IF HE WASN'T IT WOULDN'T HAVE CRASHED AND BURNED

>>15699125
Are those sparks from the metal, or did they leave the electricity on?

>>15699125
>showers of sparks from the bolts shearing
Neat.

>>15699137
the beige module that is barely visible is a toilet area

What is the likelihood that Jonny Kim and/or Zena Cardman are sent straight to the moon for their first spaceflight without doing an ISS mission first? Would NASA assign one of their astronauts to a lunar landing mission before they even go to LEO for the first time?

>>15699137
Salyut architecture is never going to die, is it?

>SpaceX already gone
sad!

>>15699137
>>15699111
What's that big module at the bottom, an inflatable?

>>15699122
>source
Yeah, the FCC? Read the fucking letterhead.

>>15699172
I don't think NASA would select someone for Artemis who had never been to space before. Then again, Jeremy Hansen has never been to space before and he got a seat on Artemis 2. I don't know how him being Canadian might have adjusted the calculus for that.

I do remember hearing a while back that NASA was pushing to get more of their unflown junior astronauts into space to try and avoid this exact issue. Kim and Cardman could get onto one of the crew rotation flights that's scheduled before Artemis 3 but spending six months on the station would probably start stepping on toes for the A3 training program. The only way I could see it working out is if A3 slips to a 2026/27 launch, which is looking more likely than not. Then they could fly on Crew-9/10 and still get back in time to train for the moon.

The grin on Konstantin's face as he came through the hatch.

>>15699195
thats a letterhead, not a source.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jf61cqQr5U

2 engines failed turing the test flight before the rocket even left the pad. During the latest static fire 2 engines failed, and in the static fire before that 2 engines failed as well. You get where I'm going with this?

I hope you've left your contribuion to the lift thread:
>>15675512

>>15697855
yet nobody is even trying to replicate reusable first stages even for just practical prototyping

>The entire field of astronomy is fucking gay and astronomers should kys
or
>Astronomy is super based and worth studying as a hobby—it’s only “academic astronomers” who are fags

>>15696740
Currently wrapping up my computer shitance degree, but realized I don't have a passion for writing app #384. Trying to refocus my efforts into hardware + signals so i can be employable in the space industry. Is it over for me?

>>15697984
if some microbes are found off world why is this such a big deal? If basic organic building blocks can hop with random asteroid bombardments between planets finding small colonies on other solar bodies is pretty much a given. If there is one particularly rich host in the system like earth is in the solar

i swear to go this earth can only support life is another take on the milennia old geocentricism which is driven purely by angst and ego

>>15699279
Pop astronomy, like all popsci, is gay and its practitioners should rope themselves. Astronomy itself, like all relatively hard sciences, is based.

astronomy is the psychology of cosmology. mildly useful, but overall a meme.

Nip accent too strong.

>>15699323
when are the russians performing a hostile takeover of the iss?

>>15699312
Can you expand on what you mean by this?

>>15699279
everything that's interesting to me happens within about 200 AU of here. humans will never go further than that and we can't get good looks at the roggs further out than that. I do not care for stars nor astronomers
>look at me I know everything there is to know about these pinpricks of light :^)
>I can tell how much they wobble, exactly what colors they are, and how much redder they are than they should be
>no I can't actually take better pictures of them than you can with a dslr on a dark night

>>15699332
They’ll try, then run out of oxygen, run back and hole up in the S0 ITS, then wait til everyone stops trying and claim victory

>>15699360
>everything that's interesting to me happens within about 200 AU of here. humans will never go further than that
no

>>15699291
Should have studied CE or EE then.

>>15699137
The indians have already peaked. Flying automated probes that run Java code is one thing, but building manned space systems with critical and reliable life support is another.

>>15699375
>relies on a propulsion method thats never been tested in space before and is uncertain if it even works

SpaceX? Heh... never heard of 'em.

>>15699512
Enron musk is finished

>>15699474
It's over ( ._.)

>>15699185
A space diaper for all the poo.

>>15699279

Will OFT-2 succeed or blow up?

>>15699291
CS is a math degree with extra steps
You'll have to go again as an aerospace engineer if you want to do anything exciting

>>15699559
yes

>>15699147
Metal. Would have been much bigger if it was electrical tearing up.

>>15699559
It will succeed at blowing up.

https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2023/08/space-rider-update/
>The European Space Agency’s (ESA) Space Rider program has officially begun its validation and testing phase, as it prepares for a maiden flight in the third quarter of 2025. Space Rider is Europe’s reusable uncrewed robotic laboratory that will provide an “end-to-end integrated space transportation system” for commercial customers. After launching into space, Space Rider will spend two months in orbit while customers complete experiments and technology demonstrations onboard, before returning to Earth.

>Space Rider was originally set to begin flights end of this year after having received funding in 2019; however, several delays have pushed back its inaugural launch. Yet, entering into Phase D marks a significant step toward launch as ESA is preparing for several drop tests to validate the capability of Space Rider’s autonomous landing algorithms.

Not having a functioning rocket to ride on is part of the problem.

>>15699559
>>15699568
It will succeed, then blow up.