/sci/ - Science & Math

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>>15691733
Just off yourself already. Determinism is mental illness. You demonstrated it in the previous thread, and you're demonstrating it right now by starting another thread about it.

>source?
>>i made it up

>>15691743

>Determinism is real.
For you. That's why you're a slave while I am free.

>>15691733
>Determinism is real
true, based
>However the set of variables and conditions governing human behavior is so complex and high-dimensional that we can never calculate or predict it
umm, sure, yep
>Therefore for humans, free will is our reality
no. that doesn't follow. lol

>>15691742
Explain why you think you're rational for believing in abrahamic concepts.

>>15691733
>we can never calculate or predict it.
not with that attitude

>>15691733
>free will is our reality.
If you had free will you would not have been determined to be born to your parents, in your city and brought up the way you were speaking the language you were forced to learn first

>>15691733
Close except you have it backwards. Free will is our reality therefore determinism isn't real.

>>15691733
>Why does no one understand this?
They have no choice.

>>15691733
>the set of variables and conditions governing human behavior is so complex and high-dimensional
How complex and how high dimensional?
What are the variables and conditions and how do you derive human behavior from them in principle?

The fact is, you're just talking out of your ass and just assume such laws/predictive algorithms exist without any evidence.

>>15691982
>They have no choice.

>>15691733
>determinist mfs when I shoot their dog (suddenly I should be held accountable for my choices)

>>15691733
That's not even logic and it certainly isn't falsifiable science.

>>15691733
Who is "no one?" I have said this here countless times. You would think on a board of math autists they would have some inkling of what chaos theory was but imagine my surprise when I found out this board is filled with such retards they dont know or understand the basic bitch concepts

>>15692105
no, they'll just be angry and will seek to get back at you for it.

>>15692259
Get back at who for what? How do you sue nature? What's the crime and what are the elements of guilt?

>>15692275
get back at you for your actions. you can't sue nature(?). they perceive your actions as a crime. they perceive you as guilty. objectively speaking, you embodied the act which has upset them.

>>15692292
If I get sucked into the air by a tornado and land on your dog, killing it, there's no crime. Sorry.

>>15691733
You can be determined to believe that if you like.

I'm a free agent who reached all his beliefs through transcendent methods tho :)

>>15692309
it merely comes down to who manages to overpower who, and inflict their will on the other.

>>15692105
That doesn't contradict it though. Perhaps I was always destined to try to get back at you for killing my dog.

>>15692326
aka cope

determinism is not real

quantum effects build up

>>15691733
Free will is real. However human keep falling to the same trap it is shit easy to calculate or predict it. Therefore for humans, destiny is our reality. Why does no one understand this?

>>15693749
>Free will
the concept itself is as schizo as it gets, and so do its followers

>>15691733
Determinism? How about niggerism.

>>15693755
Yes, that is for the better.
Control freak should never bother with schizos. They are not ordinary cogs in a machine.

>>15691733
>special pleading that makes the whole thing pointless and you have to pretend that the logic is magically both consistent and nonconsistent
wow why does nobody buy into it?

>>15693813
>Determinism? How about niggerism.
based