/sci/ - Science & Math

Good morning from India

>>15688359
see >>15688365

>>15688375
fuck, see this one >>15688371

>>15688359
Why do people criticise Russia because of the Indian rover landing? I hope you guys realise that Luna-25 is the first time a spacecraft launched by Russia has left Earth's orbit. Even if it is a crash, it is still a win for Russia.

Can anyone explain the benefit of making satellites larger and at what point does size increase have diminishing returns on performance?

I got to thinking they probably based starship's size on what they thought they could achieve for starlink v2. But is there any point in future starlink becoming even larger and leading to a bigger rocket after starship?

>>15688320
RTG. That's probably why the Yutu rovers that landed with CE3 and 4 only lasted about a year.

good morning sirs, we redeemed the moon

>>15688384
People will criticize Russia no matter what they do, that's how the world order works.

>>15688419
lol

>>15688384
They are the same contractors from the phobos-grunt mission, so it is no surprise it failed.

>>15688384
>Luna-25 is the first time a spacecraft launched by Russia has left Earth's orbit
???????

>wake up
>check news
>india did it
where do we go from here?

>>15688384
Because Rusia is a loudmouthed bunch of liars

>>15688494
private missions from USA are going to land, then japanese, human moon landings by USA, perhaps a base, China makes a base too, India works with one or both

>>15688193
China does not rely on Russian engines (anymore).

>>15688501
i was talking about russia

>>15688392
What they want is optimize bandwidth per cell with per sat cost. Its possible Starlink might get bigger with larger Starships, but Starship's already huge as it is any larger comes with more issues. But if Starship does increase to 18m diameter, then its extremely possible that Starlink sats will increase as well.

>>15688507
They will probably do more space taxi stuff for the ISS and launch another probe to the moon some 25 years later.

>>15688493
Mars-96 and Phobos-Grunt both failed in LEO.

>>15688519
nice apollo footage

Look at those landing legs on India's next gen vehicle. ISRO's ambitions knows no bounds.

>>15688507
russia is irrelevant

>>15688527
It can’t be, the Kubricks wasn’t there

>>15688527
The structure of the legs of the Apollo lunar modules and the Chandrayaan-3 are distinct from one another.

>>15688359
retard

https://twitter.com/esherifftv/status/1694379312713961727


Zubrin interview live

Good morning sirs. When does the big rocket fly?

>>15688559
informed speculation thinks 3 weeks

>>15688554
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtaTqhdVgPo
X streaming is crap. I might watch this just because i want to see if Zubrin can contain his mad.

>spin prime today
spin prime today
>spin prime today

>>15688566
one day I will find out who Zubrin actually is and not just see him as some guy that gets posted here

NET september 8

>>15688581
Has anyone actually ever died or have become injured because of rocket debris or space junk falling back to Earth?

>>15688586
didnt that happen in china. wiped out a whole village or something.

>>15688589
yeah a cz-3B failure
could've been avoided if they used a sea launch platform or a coastal launch site like today

>>15688586
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_space_debris_fall_incidents
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spaceflight-related_accidents_and_incidents

>>15688593
>>15688589
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAyOhUYIbd4

Look at these guys with their smart phones out. Just like in tourist groups, when they block everyone else's view holding their phones up. LOL

>>15688664
Ok but who?

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>>15688670
Good MARNING SARS!!!!
India GOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
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Thoughts on the next stage of the Indian space program?

>>15688664
why film it with smartphone when the footage is being recorded and livestreamed?

>>15688686
Hahahahaha no way

>>15688686
>those "achievements"
i warned you guys in the last thread about this shit

>>15688384
Russia fucked up, the number 2 superpower can't even compete against Indians. Russian space program is officially dead while India just landed on the moon.

>>15688686
INDIA NUMBER ONE

>>15688686
Kek, nice edit.

>>15688686
>>15688698
It was even better a while ago.

>>15688718
There's some sort of an edit war going on clearly.

>>15688689
I agree, it's pretty retarded. Amazing they landed something on the moon.

>>15688704
They maybe the number 2 superpower militarily but they were nowhere as far as space was concerned other than serving as a space taxi. ROSCOSMOS's advantage over everyone else lies only in human spaceflight due to their extensive experience. India has been well ahead of Russia as far as it concerns extra-planetary missions since 2008. We all just assumed Russia must be as capable because the Soviet Union was a beast. It is sad to see corruption and rot seep through the successor of a legendary agency.

>>15688723
based. fuck wiki janni3s

>>15688723
P*kis v kanglus. India needs to ban all western social media and web search or wikis and make their own like China did. 1.6 billion people should control their narrative not let some mentally ill trannies dictate it.

>>15688735
They still have a pretty extensive but shrinking edge, particularly in engine design (see OP pic). Both India and China wanted to source Soviet engines and Russia has provided *some* of them but were always unwilling to give their best ones ie. the Energia RD170 family. China's YF-130 tests showed that it's still a bit less efficient.
I predicted earliest this week that this dynamic might be changing with Luna 25's failure. They might finally share it with China, if not for the lunar project then the economic support they've been giving them.

how much of chandaaryan 3 was made in india and not ordered from other countries

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1694395877450735744

LMAO

Rogozin was in a plane that had crashed.

>>15688800
>Wagner chief Prigozhin
>Rogozin

>>15688800
You pro/anti Russia faggots need to go back to /pol/. It so fucking annoying.

>>15688800
I thought it was him at first too.

>>15688493
He's doing the thing where he obnoxiously pretends that Russia and the Soviet Union are two completely unrelated entities, to absolve Russia of the guilt of Soviet imperialism. (The "Soviet Union" was nothing more than Russian imperialists colonizing their neighbors.)

>>15688839
"Russia" just poofed into existence in the 90s, obviously.

>>15688808
Progozin

>>15688800
Lol they already murdered him.

POO
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Reminder, only 2 country in the world has rovers on the Moon right now.

China
India

Why is there so much polshit on /sfg/?

>>15688855
Nationalism is a disease anon. We should be happy two rovers sent by HUMANS are on the moon ;)

>>15688860
The collagefag advertised there a lot.

>>15688867
Sure, after China collapses and India poos in the loo

Are there any craters on the moon designated for waste disposal?

>>15688384
Don't have a link but some anon posted a long ass list of all the spaceflight failures Russia has had post USSR breakup.

Sorry, but I trust Chinese spaceflight experts more than brown ex-colonial slaves.

>>15688898
the cope in this post is insane

>>15688684
I love that Russia got showed up by a bunch of pajeet street shitters, hahaha

>>15688359
fucking faggot newfag why did you feel like you should be making a new thread???

Why does he hate Russia so much?

Honest question. Is musk the biggest hack of the 21st century?

>>15688942
Nope.

>>15688877
How long before Americans build a school on the moon and how long would it take for the first lunar school shooting to take place?

>>15688854
POO
ON
LUNA

>>15688942
he is the biggest opposite of a hack you can be of the 21st century

PM Modi: Chandrayaan is not just India's achievement. It is the whole world's. I know there is always nationalism associated with space but can we just all celebrate this?

Lol russia is shot shit, first luna25 now prigogin
russia all the way to the bottom

>>15688972
what is that pic on about lmao

Someone make an edit of shit on Luna-25 plox.

nobody cares about india, wagner troops are apaprently fighting russian troops. civil war is back on the menu. we're going to see space warfare for real.

>>15688973
>"now prigogin"
>implying that was an accident
>implying crashing planes isn't one of russia's favorite methods of getting rid of people

>>15688839
>The "Soviet Union" was nothing more than Russian imperialists colonizing their neighbors.

Stalin wasn't Russian.

>>15688839
How did Russia decline so badly though? SU was a gigantic beast, and they were terrific at science/tech/math. The guys at the top right now must be guys who grew up during SU times. Heck, SU+Russia still has the most gold medals at the IMO. They're smart, how did they fuck up so badly?

>>15688993
accidents do happen...

>>15689006
massive corruption on every level, the corruption is even systemized

>>15689005
And the British Royal family is German and Napoleon was a Corsican, it makes no difference. Stalin was an imperialist who commanded and oversaw Russification of Russia's neighbors. The Soviet Union was nothing more than Russian imperialism.

>>15689025
Why did the US invade 84 countries?

>>15688942
Isn't he a pedophile since he hung out with Epstein and all?

>>15688798
Hello br*tshit your seethe will power CH-4
>>15688993
CIA also killed India's chief nuclear scientist Homi Bhabha in a plane crash over the alps. Someone also killed India's independence fighter Netaji Bose in a plane crash in Taiwan. India's first military chief commander Bipin Rawat was also killed in a Russian made MH17 crash after he said India must shun foreign imports...

>>15689030
Does the US being imperialist somehow disprove Russia being imperialist?

>>15689022
that was true even during the 60s and 70s

>>15689034
>CIA also killed India's chief nuclear scientist Homi Bhabha in a plane crash over the alps.
source it was the CIA? BTW when I heard about what happened to Pringles today the first thing that came to mind was that Indian general that died in a helicopter

>>15689034
Also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smolensk_air_disaster
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981_Pushkin_Tu-104_crash
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Yuri_Gagarin

Politically inconvenient people have an uncanny tendency to die in plane crashes.

>>15689061
How do they crash them?

How is it that India landed on the moon but Russia crashed?

>>15689066
Probably small explosives planted in the planes, or other forms of sabotage. There are many ways they could do it.

>>15689069
Rephrase the question.

>>15689035
No. I'm just wondering what would compel a nation to invade 84 other countries.

so fucking cute

>>15689080
Imperialism.

>>15689030
The US has not invaded 84 countries.

>>15689075
Why is Russia getting shown up by a literal developing nation

>>15689081
suborbital stone trajectory

>>15689082
Yes, but 84? How many layers of imperialism are you guys on? Have you disbanded your Evil Empire at least nominally yet or do you still take pride in that bloody flag?

>>15689085
What do you mean by "why"? It's not as though they deliberately chose to fuck up.

>>15689092
>everybody who criticizes Russian imperialism is an American who supports American imperialism
Go back to >>>/pol/

>>15689083
Invaded 84. Intentionally funded bloodshed in at least 180. I don't remember the exact number.

the moon has redeemed
i'm glad

>>15689085
russia/soviet union landed a moon probe 50 years ago last time
india had a failed landing attempt 4 years ago and they learned from that and succeeded now

>>15689100
The only people who screech about how Russia is literally le evil USSR at every possible occasion are Americans or Ukrainians who fleed to America. No actual Ukrainians in Ukraine, though. Those are too busy trying to draft-dodge.

>>15689085
Russia has de-developed itself

>>15689030
>>15689080
>>15689092
Those countries should be thanking America for the privilege of getting invaded by America.

>>15689106
>everybody in Europe loves russian imperialism, that's why NATO is such an unpopular alliance and countries are eager to be annexed by Russia again
Lol

This thread is so shit.

>india edition

Oh right, that makes sense.

>>15689116
>Europeans heckin' love NATO and are all screaming Slava Ukraini
Called it. Unmistakably American.

>>15688359
>luna is kill
>prigogine is kill
>poos land on the dark side of the moon
what a time to be aline

>>15689120
NATO membership is voluntary, the threat of Russian imperialism is the reason so many countries join.

https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/08/india-becomes-the-fourth-country-to-land-a-spacecraft-on-the-moon/

> Confirmation of the successful landing triggered a celebration across India, both inside and outside the mission control center in Bangalore. Chandrayaan 3 ends a 47-year drought in successful lunar landings by any country outside China, which has placed three probes on the Moon's surface, including one on the lunar far side, since 2013.

> The lander began its powered descent to the lunar surface about 20 minutes before touchdown, initially bleeding off speed in a horizontal orientation before pitching over to start a vertical approach to the landing zone. Vikram paused its descent at 2,600 feet (800 meters) and 500 feet (150 meters) to allow on-board cameras to check for boulders or hazards.

> The arrival of Chandrayaan 3 on the Moon marks a comeback for India after the country's first attempt at a lunar landing failed in 2019. That mission, named Chandrayaan 2, crashed after a cascading series of problems. Higher-than-expected thrust levels from its braking rockets drove the lander off course, and its on-board software was unable to compensate for the error.

> Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi watched the landing through a video connection from South Africa, where he is attending a summit of the BRICS nations—Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa. He said India's successful landing on the Moon was "welcomed universally."

> Luna 25 was the first Russian mission to attempt a landing on the Moon since the Soviet-era Luna 24 mission in 1976. Chandrayaan 3's success, coupled with India's other accomplishments in space, signals it may be time to rethink Russia's ranking among the world's space powers.

posting a few other articles as well with I think have some non-overlapping information

>>15688392
>>15688513
And, because SpaceX has a (huge) competitive advantage in both $/kg and total kg to orbit, they're just digging a bigger moat between themselves and their competitors. If Amazon's Kuiper costs more and has less capable satellites, Starlink is going to dominate them. It might also be possible to bundle other satellite payloads onto Starlinks, like 100kg of asteroid detecting instruments, or 100kg of video telescope, failover/backup nodes for Starshield etc.

>>15689130

https://spacenews.com/chandrayaan-3-india-becomes-fourth-country-to-land-on-the-moon/

> The Vikram lander touched down near a prime landing site at 69.37 degrees south latitude and 32.35 degrees east longitude, close to the crater Manzinus U. The descent was supported by ESA’s ESTRACK deep space tracking station in New Norcia, Australia.

> The landing was made at the highest latitude of any spacecraft to soft land on the moon. The success follows a failed attempt in 2019 with the Chandrayaan-2 mission lander.

> The landing was made at the highest latitude of any spacecraft to soft land on the moon. The success follows a failed attempt in 2019 with the Chandrayaan-2 mission lander.

> The landing also comes days after Russia’s Luna 25 spacecraft suffered an issue during an orbital maneuver and smashed into the moon.

> The lander also carries Pragyan, a six-wheeled, 26-kilogram solar-powered rover which will seek to demonstrate roving operation on the lunar surface. Its rollout is expected within the next few hours.

> The mission is chiefly a landing technology demonstrator, the lander and rover carry a number of payloads for in-situ science experiments. Vikram carries the Radio Anatomy of Moon Bound Hypersensitive ionosphere and Atmosphere and Langmuir Probe (RAMBHA-LP), a deployable Langmuir Probe to measure plasma density near the lunar surface, a probe to measure thermal properties of lunar surface down to a depth of 10 centimeters, an instrument for detecting lunar seismic Activity, and the passive Laser Retroreflector Array provided by NASA.

> More countries and private entities could soon join this rarefied group. Japan is set to launch its Smart Lander for Investigating Moon (SLIM) mission on a H-IIA rocket at 8:34 p.m. Eastern Aug. 25 from Tanegashima Space Center.

>>15689128
Funny how despite your standardized cope routine, you don't try to deny my initial assessment of your so-called "nationality".

>>15689134
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/23/india-chandrayaan-3-moon-mission.html

> Houston-based Intuitive Machines aims to launch its first cargo mission to the moon in November, while Pittsburgh-based Astrobotic is preparing to launch its first lunar cargo mission within the next year.

> Modi visited the U.S. in June, during which he signed agreements alongside President Joe Biden to join the Artemis Accords and further collaborate on missions between ISRO and NASA.

> Next year, the space agencies are expected to work together to fly Indian astronauts to the International Space Station.

Why go to the moon and not even send a camera bro wtf

>>15689136
I told you when you started this diversion that America is an imperialist power, as is Russia.

>>15689138
map of the landing site

https://quickmap.lroc.asu.edu/layers?extent=1.8205533%2C-77.8805949%2C41.7455579%2C-56.7627637&id=lroc&showTerrain=true&queryFeature=0&queryOpts=N4IgLghgRiBcIBMKRAXyA&features=32.34810585%2C-69.36768573%40%40%7B%22label%22%3A%22Chandrayaan+3+target+landing+site%22%7D&layers=NrBsFYBoAZIRnpEB2BDYIHYFcA2vIBvAXwF0kBmCuAFkQ0h3yLPJPOHDigYRGrgV6iJgXZtWQA&proj=17

How is ISRO this advanced? Serious question.

>>15689140
The world is sick of you and your wars. Your "friends" in Europe first and foremost.

>>15689101
>I made it up

We know.

>>15689146
Stuck between two imperialist powers, given the choice between NATO membership and being annexed by Russia, the preference of the majority of Europeans is demonstrably clear.

https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k2RZO9ghnc

rocketlab launch stream starting in 3h

>>15689149
See >>15689146

>>15689151
see >>15689116 >>15689149

>>15689154
From a European to an American, I'm just letting you know that Europeans know what's up and they want you to stop funding war on their continent. It's done. You've done your damage. Pull out.

>>15689034
why would America kill an Indian

>>15689145
Probability. When your country has an indiallion amount of people there are statistically going to be thousands of people who are smart and knowledgeable at aerospace. Plus common use of the english language due to historical british control / a culture that values going off and studying abroad while not exactly becoming permanent expats feeds a lot of knowledge back into the country

>>15689146
>The world is sick of you and your wars.
Classic asiatic self-importance. No one gives a shit about what a bunch of mongol rape babies think, and they certainly aren't "the world."

https://orbitalindex.com/archive/2023-08-23-Issue-232/

>>15689157
The fact that you got off on this tangent about American imperialism because the Soviet Union was (accurately) described as Russian imperialism betrays your alignment.

>>15689167
Show flag.

Has Russia produced anything worthwhile space related, not talking about soviets.

>>15689169
https://www.isas.jaxa.jp/home/slim/SLIM/technology.html

JAXA has a moon lander launching in 3 days

>>15689170
Uh huh, ok. Anyway, we'll call your NATO representative when we need you. For now, just take your filthy blood money and leave.

>>15689171
Go back to >>>/pol/

>>15689176

>>15689178
It's always an American. Every single time.

>>15689056
Leaked docs a few years back. Search for it online.
>>15689160
To derail India's nuclear program. Homi Bhabha unwisely publicly spoke about India's 3 stage nuclear program and US had to shut him down.

>>15689173
ExoMars barely made it to Mars, but it did make it. Energomash still makes some really good ORSC engines, some of which started design after the fall of the soviet union (arguably though, as their basically just upgraded soviet engines)

>>15689181
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TTTJ20iRbs

english livestream, there is also one that seems to be japanese and then a third one that I don't know what it is, perhaps telemetry

>>15688942
The greatest human of the 21st century. So far.

>>15689061
Poland pres had to be Ruskis, right?

>>15689177
>incoherrent ravings of a furious Russian
All you've got to do is stop trying to annex your neighbors. Once you stop doing that, NATO will no longer have any purpose and will naturally dissolve as the member nations choose to leave it.

The only reason NATO exists in the first place is because of the campaign of Russian imperialism that was the so-called "Soviet Union".

https://orbitalindex.com/archive/2023-08-23-Issue-232/

>>15689183
also Iranian nuclear scientist was gunned down kek

>>15689131
Amazon could effectively fund Blue Origin and competitors for decades without breaking a bank

>>15689194
Yes, of course. They even made memes about it.

>>15689195
Guess I'll just leave you to your padded cell where you can keep talking to imaginary Russians.

>>15689176

AIIIEEEE. GOOD EVENING SIRS

India #1
Spacex #2
China #3
USA #4
Japan#5
Russia #6

>>15688686
Holy shit, India is mogging the rest of the world

>>15689210
We're recalling all our RDs, no more engines for you. Let's see you do CY-4 now.
(but pls don't stop buying our oil)

>>15689210
Based, ser

>>15689130
Wish they would show more photos and videos instead of this just one grainy, low res photo after the landing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xhX7RPpiLA

ENTOs scare me
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_trans-Neptunian_object

>>15689223
Pretty bad communication. NASA always says what are the next operational steps and what to expect when.

>>15689229
we need an /astro/ general for these, /sfg/ and musk fanboys here hate talking about astronomy and astrophysics

>>15689239
I'm the muskiest fanboy there is and I posted that

>>15689239
as long as you send a cybertruck to orbit mars im fine with it

>>15688581
>only 2 weeks away

>>15689229
> no planet 9 yet
Brown & Batygin better deliver

fuck "starbase" lmao
just move back to Kwajelein Atoll, Falcon 1's launch site

>>15689216
If a certain neighbour was removed from the map we could have a Indo-Russia oil/gas pipeline. A shame if your nuke stockpile went to waste *hint hint cough cough wink wink*

https://twitter.com/NASA/status/1694431918773674164

NASA's Psyche discussion livestream

BEACH CLOSURE
SPIN PRIME SOON
STATIC FIRE TONIGHT OR TOMORROW
STACK AFTERWARDS

>>15689289
No OP notice, no static fire

https://twitter.com/robert_zubrin/status/1694419340865462751

>>15689299
spaceflight

Tory Bruno, an engineer who has worked on some of America's best rockets and missiles, doesn't think much of Starship.

>>15689306
zubrin

>>15689310
ULA's days are numbered who gives a shit

>>15689306
It was flight over air space
therefore it's spaceflight related
the logic implicable

>>15689306
>spaceflight
>flight

All these countries competing who can land on the moon when they can't land on Earth

>>15689310
Tory Bruno doesn't think much of reuse either.

>>15689346
Wrap engines in heatshields, parachute them down and catch with helicopter.

scam streams are back in my feed
hadn't seen any in a while
oh well

>>15689310
We don't think much of Tory Bruno

>>15688581
its happening

>>15689225

>>15688581
i am beyond ready

>>15689225
whats in the box?

>>15689272
seems to be basically public/laymen questions

>>15689310
when did he say that? because I doubt he would publically

>>15689328
easier to land on the moon than land an orbital booster

>>15689384
we really don't know that. One company has attempted the latter and got it to work after some initial failures. Now it works fine. Perhaps BO & Neutron and whatever will also find it is pretty easy after some early oopseies.

>>15689289
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhJRzQsLZGg

wouldn't a static fire have to mean an overpressure notice as well?

>>15689387
just looking at the variables involved
moon landing: no appreciable atmosphere, low gravity
earth: atmosphere means weather, aerodynamics, high gravity means you need more powerful thrusters, the combo means the control algorithm is going to be much more complicated

also, 4 different countries have landed on the moon, only one entity has landed an orbital class booster

>>15689403
>4 different countries have landed on the moon,
Can any of these supposed landers see each other and send live pics and video back?
Can the brand new India lander see the shit we left behind in the 60s?

>>15688566
2h stream

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftxRjshzdnA

apparently she had some more interviews with personalities that get posted here

Dr Phil Metzger
2 months ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAEyXj3GN14
6 days ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4DNwrUpvjM

Chris Combs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiiqiWVgOGY

Jonathan McDowell
1 month ago (listened to this one, it was pretty interesting)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDlqZh9fdgs
library tour 2 weeks ago (??)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nws9yBZq-Xo
QA 2 weeks ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3tP1rnyNv4

>>15688566
Thank you for bringing this little strumpet to my attention

>>15689445
>>15689443
imagine if guys with big dicks did this

>>15689443
Is she a better interviewer than those soiboys?

>>15689229

>>15689445
she was a TV news person at some point, so she usually allows the person being interviewed to actually answer the questions without interrupting them (unlike some other retarded streams)

>>15689448
yes

>Scattered & Detached
>POWER GAP
>Sednoids
lmao

>>15689229
What does the Oort Cloud make you feel? Also, these extremely elliptic scattered disc orbits make me fucking hard.

>>15689435
It actually took a picture of an Apollo site as it was orbiting the Moon.

>>15689467
>oomer cloud

>>15689443
>Chris Combs

No thanks I have a low tolerance for extreme EDS.

>>15689443
missed this one

Dr Scott Walter and Zack Golden (CSI Starbase)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3tP1rnyNv4

haven't really listened to Scott Walter, usually talks about Tesla with some other Tesla youtubers, but apparently he is an aerospace engineer
Zack comes on the stream halfway through
there was also a livestream with zack like 4 months ago before the first IFT but what I remember of it, it was mostly about Zack himself and Starbase and how it is to look at shit there instead of techincal stuff about starship or spaceflight

>>15689473
wrong link lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Saj9sLemcsk

>>15689463
>2012 VP113, also known by its nickname "Biden"
>Never less than 11 hours behind Earth time
How aptly named!

>>15689467
what is actually there? similar to the primordial remnants as pictured inside the solar system. That is loose piles of gravel held together by barely any gravity

>>15688898
No one tell my friend here about the Mongols and the Manchus

good morning /sci/!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>15689511
We've got a big one inbound and could get a probe there if we really wanted to.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C/2014_UN271_(Bernardinelli%E2%80%93Bernstein)

>>15689536
We need to have a spacecraft ready for such encounters

Hey fags whats happening with S25 rn?

>>15689080
No one sets out to eat the whole bag of potato chips. You eat one and it's pretty good so you keep going.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5si7GauyLLw

https://twitter.com/torybruno/status/1694289678097436938

>>15689119
Welcome to the designated shitting thread, sahib.

>>15689150
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k2RZO9ghnc

30min until rocketlab launch stream start

>>15689558
When is the company sale supposed to go through? I wonder if tory will be replaced.

>>15689564
>roggetlab
fuck off beck

>>15689549
I think raptors are being installed or something

>>15689556
kino

>>15689558
>We need to get rid of the prints. The weight of all of that skin-oil will effect Centaur's peak performance.

>>15689160
Revenge for Custer

why didnt elon do this first?

>>15689584
SS isn't done yet

>>15689325
In the word spaceflight, space modifies flight, so that the kind of flight it refers to is flight in space. It doesn't mean space or flight. It's similar to how a doghouse is a house for a dog, not either a dog or a house.

>>15689584
do what?

>>15689558
He seems to have somewhat understood that people like seeing the construction and development phases of rocketry

>>15689443
>Miss Piggy phenotype
pass

>>15689145
It's a very old agency and got started when India was even poorer than it is today. Add that to India always being on top of missile tech (effective for nuclear program and defending against Pakistan/China in high altitude environments) and you get a long legacy of low-resource high-quality development with every rupee that they get being hard fought for with solid results.

Picrel is them assembling their first rocket in the 60s, transporting smaller parts by bicycle because the team didn't have enough funding for trucks and a lot of fuel to spare

>>15689603
> engineers that can't build a two wheeled cart to be pulled by the bike
wtf

>>15689617
>build a two wheeled cart
Money was tight; and they already had a bicycle.

>>15689625
Come on, you can build them from scrap and two bike wheels

>>15689599
faggot

>>15689632
Time is money, anon.

>>15689590
how did india beat the god elon musk

>>15689641
They didn't build a Starship

>>15689617
>pull your bike apart to make a cart
>no money allocated to buying and feeding an ox to pull heavy loads
>now you have a wheelbarrow but no bike to get home
Zamn it's almost like applied physicists running a nascent space program are smarter than a neet online

>>15689632
Did that too.
India was a staggeringly poor country after the brits took all the money.

>>15689652
Ok nvm I guess ox maintenance was allocated in the budget

I thought Vulcan was going to launch soon

>>15689641
They're working on a thing that can land on earth and Mars, landing on the moon is just a side product

>>15689617
Socialist country, plz understand

>>15689683
landing on the moon is far more useful than landing on the moon right now

>>15689689
>landing on the moon is far more useful than landing on the moon right now

>>15689689

>>15689693
typo. basically meant; moon > mars

>>15689689

>>15689689
yeah

>>15689689

>>15689689
gm ser

how are they doing a spin prime without an overpressure notice?

>>15689584
Land on the south pole? Elon’s goal is not to dunk on everyone. Elon is vonBraunian and his only (long-term) goal is Mars
It’s just that certain aspects of this goal such as F9, SS, Raptor, and HLS dunk on everyone. But he’s not trying to break every goal and set every record

>>15689689

>>15689699
Kek is that don knotts?

>>15689689
>t. Halley’s Comet

>>15689564
live

>>15689310

>>15689738

LIVE
https://youtu.be/-k2RZO9ghnc

>>15689652
>the brits took all the money
Shit like this is why India will stay poor and dirty forever. Take responsibility for your own destiny. Pathetic.

18 min to launch

>>15689150
spaceflight now honestly has the best launch schedule

>>15689745
18 minutes

red means recovery, splash and grab

>>15689740
>"I spent a long time thinking Spacex was bullshit and now my every waking moment is spent worrying about them"

splash n grab

The page 10ers are here bros /sfg/ is healing

>flying a re-used Rutherford on this booster
baby steps

8th booster recovery attempt, one of the final ones before they try to refly a booster

>>15689752
>"Wish there were some truly inspired people working here"

>>15689564
https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/1694445669002740176
>For the first time, we’re launching with a preflown Rutherford engine today. This is a major step toward evolving Electron into a reusable rocket.

T-15:00

Clear is live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXzGKmfeKEo

LIVE
https://youtu.be/VXzGKmfeKEo

>>15689754
Good morning! I am a page 10 purist I ride it out come hell or high water (jk I post in both threads)

>>15689310
"Doesn't think much of Starship" in the sense that he tries to think about it as rarely as possible to keep his anxiety in check

>Clear's using an AI-generated voicefake
based

>>15689767
face reveal

>>15689775
its his real voice and face

Why are they making such a big deal about flight 40? Such a random number

>>15689783
Based 10

10
20
30
40
50
etc

>>15689747
You have to analyse what went wrong in order correct the mistakes.
Recognising the evil of the Anglo-Saxon is a vital piece of information and must never be forgotten.

>>15689776
kek is this actually him

>>15689788
https://twitter.com/clearusui/status/1624307785692504065

Okay but why is beck memeing around with reusability when neutron is supposedly going to come online soon registered trademark
Electron reusability won’t really give them any 1:1 experience will it? I guess engine refurb but that doesn’t feel like enough to justify it

why hasn't this drogue-parachute-splashdown tried for boosters before?
it seems so simple

>>15689776
NOOOOOOOO THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

>>15689793
spacex tried it with Falcon 9

>>15689788
>>15689790
IT’S OVER

>>15689790
AHAHAHHAHAHA
i knew it
its over for clearfags

>>15689791
it means they get to tell investors they're already reusing rockets

>>15689795
I think it was just the interstage. I actually saw a photo of this for the first time two days ago and was super confused haha

small chance the re used engine explodes, we'll see in two min

>>15689800
do they not do static fires?

>>15689790
It's just a joke. Were it true however, I'd have to start watching her (him).

>>15689799
no the whole first stage, this was early early days.

>>15689791
perhaps they plan to keep launching electron simultaneously for a while, and this could make it cheaper

liftoff

>>15689796
>>15689797
>retards falling for a joke tweet that uses an ai-generated image
Look at the glasses rims you stupid fucks.

>>15689783
They're getting close to beating Pegasus as most-launched small-lift US rocket not named Scout

Clear Max-Qute!

boring

Max Qute

>>15689808
cope

>>15689811
>>15689814

>They're going for recovery and included a camera in first stage

Let's goooooooooo

>>15689810
literally copying space x format

gravity wins again stage 1

>>15689822
yes, why not, its great
this might as well become a standard

is this a kiwi accent? it's weird

c'mon drogues, this always gets me in KSP

>>15689828
its these >>15689751, not sure which accent you are talking about

GOOD CHUTE

>>15689825
Why don't they do something new like have a drone with a rocket booster filming for a couple miles

>>15689751
Girl on the left is literally MADE to birth strong sons.

tfw no live feed from the south pacific because it's literally the middle of fucking nowhere

>>15689006
Never recovered from the 90s.

>>15689836
that sounds expensive

>>15689837
That's a Maori my man, you want no part of that, trust me

>t.NZfag

>>15689842
Pretty sure you can make solid rocket fuel in your basement

Splashdown confirmed

>>15689808
Damage control!

>>15689857
I'd be worried if it didn't. can you imagine?

HARUKI DESS
HARUKI DESS
HARUKI DESS

/Designated Shitting Moon/bros how we feeling?

>>15689910
doing the needful, sir

>>15689146
The US isn't the one invading a European country right now, dumbass.

I missed the end of the rocket lab stream, did they get the booster?

>>15688684
sirs we sooperpoower now

>>15689946
Splashdown was called out, but didn't see the boat pull up alongside it before the stream ended.

booster cryo loading

>>15689946
Latest tweet said that the boat was still underway.

spin prime

https://twitter.com/DJSnM/status/1694440005442371813

>>15689992
For all we know they're inflatable models and this is all a scam. Still, we've already seen that tank being trucked around

>>15689992
I isn't new Glenn being part of the lunar landing architecture is sort of a bad thing? There are other government and private launchers the lander could go on but because those are BO's competition they shoehorn their own rocket into things

i dont give a fuck about rocket lab launches
smallsat just isn't interesting
simple as

>>15689171
I am American, and we are #1 for a reason you dick sucking slav, and damn straight we have killed millions, it worked diden't it?

>>15689992
He wants so badly for there to be another launch company worth talking about because Musk makes him seethe and Spacex is poisoned by association in his brain.

>>15689992
Show us the engines, Jeff.
Full duration burn?
Assembled booster cryo test?
Date for a test launch?

>>15690007
>There are other government and private launchers
Right now, unless those other launchers are named Falcon Heavy, there really aren't. Even if all of the in development rockets were flying none of them come close to being able to lift Blue Moon's pudgy 45 ton self into orbit.

I'd say this is actually a good thing because it gives Blue Origin some outside stimulus to finish their damn rocket.

>>15690040
SLS exists too, although its mostly a theoretical option because thats not going to be cost effective. The fact that the blue moon lander is dependent on a rocket that does not even exist yet adds a lot of unnecessary technical risk

>>15690055
*dependant on a rocket that does not exist yet, when falcon heavy already exists and has similar capabilities

>>15689996
Anon, I...

>>15689992
Shut the FUCK UP Scott

INDIA SUPERPOOER 2023

>>15688537
imagine a Bollywood faked Moon landing

>>15689992
Wow, they welded some rings together? すごい

>>15690059
what am I supposed to be seeing?

KINO

>>15690074
Wrong thread sorry

I have Tory Bruno's autograph. AMA

Apparently ULA stopped giving out their iconic swag on X due to cost saving measures...

>>15690087
How much did he pay you for it?

>>15690122
He gave me a $3000 bonus and a placard

>>15688686
very less gravity

>>15689603
SOVL

Really happy for Indiabros right now. This is a win for humanity especially in the Artemis-era.

>>15690101
Didn't he gift Clear a t-shirt or something once?

>>15690159
>T*ry Br*no replied to clear, Elon hasn't

It's over clearbros....

>>15690024
smallsats are no less interesting than run of the mill telecomsats, imagingsats and glowsats, and none of those are interesting

>>15690148
It is akin to Columbus first voyage to India. But this time India has taken the voyage to Columbus!

>>15690168
Moreso just proves that Elon is a conman

>>15690175
This decade is very exciting when you consider all the missions that are scheduled to take place. It seems like a prelude to what will happen in the next half of the century. The major players now will be the apex conquerors of space tomorrow. Too bad my country is nowhere near launching it's own satellite let alone contributing in any meaningful way.

>>15690214
Does your country operate cargo ships?

Indian moon rover deploying.

>>15689992
Can someone spoon feed me what happened? Spacex won the HLS contract, blue origin sued. Then at some point a different contract was awarded? What is blue origin going to make for the moon? Is it for a later mission and not 2025?

>>15690223
Yes.

>>15690059

>>15690252
The original contract was based on anti-competitive principles because it evaluated different proposals based on their strengths and weaknesses. That blatantly unfair method puts companies at a disadvantage simply for being less competent, but fortunately Blue Origin stood up for the rights of every company to acquire sustainable government contracts due to a presidential administration which for once cared about people over numbers.

>>15688083
source is 3548553 if you were curious

https://tech.hindustantimes.com/tech/news/how-isros-chandrayaan-3-got-a-tech-boost-from-nasa-and-esa-71692792432787.html

Don't get so cocky Apu

>>15690252
>>15690265
>Two versions of Blue Moon are under development: a robotic lander planned to land on the Moon in 2024,[3][4] and a larger human lander planned to land a crew of four astronauts on the lunar surface for the NASA Artemis V mission in 2029.[5]

If starship doesn't fail this will look ridiculous. It can't even be a back up vehicle because operations will be scaled for starship not apollo

Kinda Hat on a Hat to emboss the treads.

>>15689061
>Politically inconvenient
>Yuri_Gagarin

>>15690159
>50kg at that size
Guess clear has done extra rocket fuel

If NASA tried this, there'd be a dozen lawsuits to stop it.

>>15690321
I legit can't tell if this is about stamping the moon or just making simple looking wheels that are thick enough not to break

>>15690321
Which logo provides the best traction and why is it Blue Origin's?

>>15690321
Curiosity's wheels have a pattern in them that spells JPL, it's not unknown to do stuff like this

Hell it's probably where they got the idea

>>15690331
its to mark the designated shitting lanes

only 18% got it right in the end

>>15688898
Isn't that even more impressive that they did it despite that?

>>15690314
Politicians hate and fear such nation heroes, because somebody with such fame and adoration might challenge their power. He was making noise about Soyuz 1, seemingly confirming their paranoid fears, so they banned him from future space flight to limit his fame, and then killed him when they thought it was safe.

I sleep

>>15690542
goodnight sir

>>15690542
Please enjoy beautiful dreams tonight, sir.

>>15690321
Why? What's so illegal about this?

>>15690542
Sleep tight my friend

>>15690321
Maybe everyone, including private companies, should do it, as an identifier

>>15690033
I want there to be another launch company worth talking about so there is more content + it keeps SpaceX on their feet more
different companies could pursue different avenues simultaneously as well
perhaps hydrogen is better in some niche situations like around the moon or whatever due to easier manufacturing

>>15690321
its imprints on the moon lol
tire tracks vs tire tracks that are more easily identifiable, its irrelevant
the surface is going to be disturbed either way

https://spacenews.com/rocket-lab-reuses-engine-on-electron-launch/

https://europeanspaceflight.com/sab-orbital-vehicle-could-work-in-concert-with-space-rider/

>>15689124
and the test flite is a mere 2 weeks away

>>15690321
The Apollo 11 landing legs famously had a Swastika pattern on them.

>>15690625
Apollo 11 confirmed honourary Hindus. Jai Shri Ram.

>>15690625
Keep really? A cursory search turned up nothing.

>>15689992
reminder there's literally NO people in this busy blue origin rocket factory

Why can't Russia and North Korea into rockets and spacecrafts? They're spending more on it than Chandrayaan-3 and can't even get a dinky little satellite into orbit.

>>15690033
Kek

>>15690033
Everyone who is not clinically insane would like there to be at least two healthy big rocket companies.

>>15690649
As for Russia, corruption, bad leadership, as for Korea, they are literally just learning how to build rockets and also possibly sabotage

>static fire tomorrow
the steamroller cometh

>>15690667
At the end of the day, a rocket is still a volatile tube of explodium that you're setting on fire on one end and then controlling everything well enough that nothing burns that shouldn't, and does so long enough that it uses up the explodium and got enough oomph from the fire to actually make it to space. Sometimes it occurs to me just how crazy that they work at all.