/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15686772
I got interested in the mathlete team after school when I was in elementary/middleschool.

Also this guys is pretty intelligent apparently her ranked highly on Australias versions of standardized test.

He’s also fine so that’s a +

>t.blackie

>>15686772
Get them not to beat the shit out of the ones that actually study and do their homework. It's a cultural problem.

>>15686776
are you having a stroke, anon?
>>t.blackie
oh, never mind

>>15686791
>the ones that actually
the ones *who study. someone beat you, and english is not even be first language (but it's too easy to learn to me).

>>15686795
I am anon in all seriousness anon I just like vomit my thoughts as quickly as poss

the final redpill is that you can't teach math to anyone that doesn't want to learn it. whenever a kid asks me
>when am i ever going to need to know this?
then my answer is that you won't need to know it unless you want a job that requires it. most people don't want to work in STEM

>>15686810
Most people do want to paycheck in STEM.

>>15686812
yeah and i want a paycheck from professional sports. that doesn't mean i want to put the effort into it

Math is just too abstract and non applicable to every day life for you to be able to force someone to use it. He's right.
99.99999% of people that ever lived and probably ever will live have done so without needing knowledge of sin cos or tan in thier life.

If you just want kids to do better in math in school however, then you have to make the school culture one in which doing well in school is the most important thing, and not anything else I guess. I dont know how

>>15686772
I don't understand this. Why are mid-IQs so obsessed with "educating" low-IQs? Education fetishism is a mental illness. Education should unironically be denied to anyone below 130. Giving dumb people delusions of intellectual competence makes them into bad people. It makes them into viciously bad people.

>>15687162
So you're suggesting that 98% of the population is incompetent for anything but manual labor? On top of that, you're suggesting that education, which practically always includes standardized testing, would somehow convince idiots (who by the nature of being idiots do badly on these tests) that they're intelligent?

Something tells me that you wouldn't be one of those to receive education in your fantasy.

>>15687877
>So you're suggesting that 98% of the population is incompetent for anything but manual labor?
I'm suggesting there's nothing 98% of the population needs to be competent at that would justify "public education". They don't need anything beyond reading, writing and arithmetic. "Science" especially shouldn't be part of their curriculum.

>you're suggesting that education... would somehow convince idiots ... that they're intelligent?
Yes. Your entire nation operates on this premise. You, yourself, are an example.

>>15687899
> yes
> refuses to elaborate further or refute the reasoning of the previous argument
Alright, I see there's no constructive argument to be had on that question. Moving on.

> I'm suggesting there's nothing 98% of the population needs to be competent at that would justify "public education".
And you believe that who gets education and who doesn't should exclusively be based on a childhood IQ test?

>>15688294
>you believe that who gets education and who doesn't should exclusively be based on a childhood IQ test?
No. It should be the initial filter. You can then chuck people out who turn out to be incompetent, unwilling or uninterested.

>>15686772
make math mnemonics into rap lyrics

>>15686772
Just don't. We don't need more people who regurgitate words from a book without understanding their meaning. So much would be fixed if higher education was only for those who truly want it.

>>15687877
Yes. The US is only 2% blond, 1% red haired and 11% brunette haired for a total of 14% for those with Northern European traits, not counting the mongrel tares which have those traits the US is less than 14% White(Northern European.) The rest are the slave caste and they are degenerate and fucking stupid with the exception of the occasional outlier.

https://youtu.be/vf6oo2MPmww?si=iZDceJkXZQkut9D1

>>15686772
Ban math classes that the slowest retard in any given school wouldn't be able to pass.
Replace 75% of math problems with classroom discussion on how math makes you feel (social emotional learning).
Add intersectional feminism and race consciousness to every math word problem.
Teach that girls are better than boys at math.

These were the solutions devised by lifelong educational experts in San Francisco, New York, Virginia, and other enlightened progressive Democrat strongholds. I think you'd better listen to them. You trust the experts, right?

>>15686798
>and english is not even be first language (but it's too easy to learn to me)
You seem to have work to do as well. Get studying!

>>15688308
What about people who would excel at older age? They would be filtered too early. I say if your model is really to be enforced, at least put some testing throughout the minimal public education to spot people who turn out to be competent later in life. Talent is not the only nor the most relevant factor in getting good.

>>15689503
>Virginia
Why Virginia?

>>15689670
>at least put some testing throughout the minimal public education to spot people who turn out to be competent later in life.
Are there any examples of this? I know there is an experiment where a kid is placed in a room with a marshmellow. if the kid waits 15 minutes to eat the marshmellow, he will get a second one.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX_oy9614HQ

>>15689670
>What about people who would excel at older age?
I don't care about your theoretical would-bes. If you're legitimately smart, determined and have something to show for it, do your best to study informally, seek tutelage, impress someone who can arrange a second chance for you. Losing the occasional genius to an imperfect filter is still vastly better than losing all of them thorugh an education system that gives people legitimate brain damage.

>>15686772
he monke

>>15686772
Focus on potential applications. That's quite easy for trig specifically, because there are loads: Engineering, surveying, communications, video game development...

Use watermelon and fried chicken units.

>>15686772
What the fuck is the point of trigonometry kek
I ain't gonna be using that shit cuz i aint do trades or STEM
CTFU

>>15687141
>If you just want kids to do better in math in school however, then you have to make the school culture one in which doing well in school is the most important thing, and not anything else I guess. I dont know how
That's how you get school shooters. Stop making kids feel like graduation day and grades determine their life completely.

>>15686772
The nigger is right. Math beyond algebra, geometry, and basic stats is useless for a majority of people. We have computers now, so why the fuck would most modern day intellectuals need to memorize endless letter-number formulas if they aren't measuring particle physics?

Randomly learning French or Japanese. Understanding how circuitry or cars work. Studying chemistry. What do these all these have in common? They are all knowledge that have actual useful applications outside of a career. Yes, even learning a new language you will only use for a week is a better use of time than learning trig or calc. Advanced mathematics are useless skills if you aren't specifically being payed to use them.

>>15686776
I see you included a + just to make sure we couldn’t miss you were making a pun. I reserve the right to ignore annoying puns and pretend not to notice them blackie

>>15686772
>Doesn't know Sine waves are used as bass in a ton of hip hop/electronic music

>>15686772
The clothes he's wearing are sewn in factories that were built using sin cos and tan in foreign countries that you have to use sin cos and tan to ship them from. He's probably never gone a day in his life without using sin cos and tan lol

>>15691056
no one ever shot up their school over grades
but youre right it is a problem cause of suicides
During high school, there was a girl, not my year like one or two below me, honors student girl, got caught cheating on a german test and walked out during the test, left the school went to the river and walked in and drowned herself.
I was looking it up the other day, her mom successfully sued for 750k a few years later.

So yeah it can be a problem. There was another kid that killed themselves before but it was i think a couple years I started. dunno why he did it.

>>15687162
No dude you've gotta educate them to different levels based on how smart they are, they still do this in Europe it's nothing crazy. If someone's only fit for sweeping floors you give them 6 years of school anyway just so they can fill out forms and other bullshit.

>>15686772
Tell them that if they try hard and learn as much as possible. They could turn into this!

>>15686772
Come on baby I’m a Reddit cuck
I like your bull. Let me slurp and suck.
He is big black and mean with a massive schlong
Let me gargle his cum as I sing this song
He is so black and strong and tall and hung
I’ll be his little prepper until everything’s said and done

>>15686791
>It's a cultural problem.
It's not. Cuckservatives and leftards alike have been spouting this for over 80 years and wasted trillions of dollars on this assumption. The reality is that it's a racial problem, not a cultural problem. The research done in the last decade has irrefutably proven what we knew all along, which is that academic performance is largely genetic.

Policy decisions should be focussed on avoiding racial discrimination against outlier individuals (i.e. the original definition of racism), while promoting low skilled work opportunities for mixed race Africans. Trying to hit qoutas with AA, build role models, lying about history to pretend non-Whites can also do things etc. was never going to have the desired effect.

>>15692501
>No dude you've gotta educate them to different levels based on how smart they are
What for?

>>15693374
>Cuckservatives and leftards alike have been spouting this for over 80 years and wasted trillions of dollars on this assumption.
Sounds like a cultural problem to me, walmartbro. :^)

>>15691917
>Understanding how circuitry or cars work. Studying chemistry. What do these all these have in common? They are all knowledge that have actual useful applications outside of a career. Yes, even learning a new language you will only use for a week is a better use of time than learning trig or calc.
Even at a basic tech level you literally need trig and calc for circuits and chemistry you utter bottomwit.

>>15693374
deadass need to go back

>>15693376
I fucking explained what for

>>15693550
You don't need 6 years of education to sweep floors. You don't need to fill out forms to sweep floors, either.

>>15693550
>>15693563
You know what you need 6 years of education for? To be taught to think that you need 6 years of education, to fill out a form, so that you could sweep floors. That is what educating low-IQs is truly about.

>>15686772
Rap songs about algebra

>>15693669
(Verse 1)
Woke up this mornin', with equations in my mind,
X's and Y's, coefficients hard to find.
Got them variables, constantly on the move,
Solve for 'x', got something to prove.

Algebra, ain't just about numbers,
It’s about expressions, sleep and blunders.
Squaring, factoring, quadratic in sight,
Hit it right, and the solution's tight.

(Chorus)
Algebra thuggin', in the streets of math,
Moving variables, feel its wrath.
Solve it, graph it, break it on down,
In the world of numbers, algebra's the crown.

(Verse 2)
Polynomials, stepping up the game,
Complex problems, never the same.
Linear, quadratic, cubic too,
If you're lost, I'll solve for you.

Y equals mx plus b, that’s the line,
Graph it once, and it'll shine.
Got them brackets, parentheses, ain't no joke,
Algebra's lit, watch the numbers evoke.

(Bridge)
Inequalities, got them greater than signs,
Algebraic thug life, crossing them lines.
From absolute values to the exponent's rule,
Keep it cool, algebra's the tool.

(Verse 3)
Factorization, breaking it all apart,
Find the zeroes, that's the art.
Expression on the left, equal to the right,
Balance it out, keep it tight.

Word problems got stories, tales untold,
Solve them right, watch the mystery unfold.
Multiplying binomials, using FOIL's creed,
Algebra, it's the seed you need.

(Chorus)
Algebra thuggin', in the streets of math,
Moving variables, feel its wrath.
Solve it, graph it, break it on down,
In the world of numbers, algebra's the crown.

(Outro)
From constants to coefficients, keep the rhythm alive,
Algebra's the game, where only the fittest survive.
Whether in a class or on the block, it’s all the same groove,
Step to algebra, show and prove!

>>15686798
>english is not even be first language (but it's too easy to learn to me).
Smugly correcting someone's English and then posting this babble in the same post shows an astonishing lack of self-awareness.

>>15686772
As a thirdie I've been thinking about going to village and doing paid math competitions. I'll give the top 3 kids what their parents earn in 2 days of hard labor.
>>15692100
Those factories were designed by people who knew all that, but most likely built by people who don't. So it comes back at what >>15691917 said.

>>15692100
>The clothes he's wearing are sewn in factories that were built using sin cos and tan in foreign countries that you have to use sin cos and tan to ship them from. He's probably never gone a day in his life without using sin cos and tan lol
People like him unironically enjoyed a much better existence before Europeans figured out sin, cos and tan.

>>15689482
>talking about IQ
>immeadiately conflates it with race, and claims him being whtie makes him smart
Yep, you wouldn't even amke the 100 cutoff.

>>15693860
I bet he's a NEET too.

>>15686772
Ban Asians from math classes

>>15686772
Learning to share with fractions.
It's probably best to keep knives out of that exercise Anon.

>>15686772

>>15693568
If you want to keep the peasants looking like burgers so they don't know they're peasants, you do it my way. If it doesn't matter that they know, you don't have to.

>>15687162
>Education should unironically be denied to anyone below 130.
it is not possible to reach that IQ without educating the person. stop posting about things you have no knowledge in

>>15695130
People would have that IQ without early childhood education, but less of them.

>>15695329
they wouldn't even be able to answer a single question on an IQ test if they had no knowledge of the abstract concepts needed to answer it

>>15695410
IQtards can't understand that IQ test answers are learned and high scores are a result of education and training. They just think it's a magical measurement of intelligence that's somehow just in their brains from birth.

>>15689670
community college exists and allows you to start from essentially nothing and get into good, even prestigious universities at any age

>>15695421
You're both fuckwits, IQ measures things like pattern recognition and visuo spacial cognition and the new ones do it without any cultural bias and some don't even require reading, you can give them to chimps (like you two).

>>15695473
>pattern recognition isn't learned
>visuospatial function can't be improved through training

>>15688340
In the hood we call it PEMDAS, straight murder being committed in the streets
Math so sick, these cats gettin' heated
Parenthesis and Exponents - put 'em in check, no matter who you meet
Multiplication and Division - go as hard as you like, bodies'll hit the concrete
Addition and Subtraction we do it all with no hesitation, lay these criminals to rest in a decision

They can't be messin' with me when got the PEMDAS flow 'bout me, my verses bound to get hit like a relic
Guns and violence, that's a deadly combo, just screamin' PEMDAS with my comrades in camouflage
All these upcomin' cats think they kingpin, they better beware cuz I'm pokin' with the order of operations

These other gangs can't stand to see my success, tryna come at me with some stress, but I'm not new to this
My crew and I run it with precision, I got the math science that can put 'em in prison
It's crunch time, so I'ma keep 'em complicit, pumpin' PEMDAS kicks and throwin' scientific fits
Don't be foolin' with me on the battlefield or 10 feet deep that's where you gonna dwell

Don’t overlook the power of equations, PEMDAS the answer to all of these gang relations
Put these cats in handcuffs one by one
Cuz when playin' wit' the mnemonic none of 'em can run
No need to be mergin', yall know the rule, whoever messes with me I put 'em in a coffin with PEMDAS

>>15693550
no amount of edumucayshion will do it mayne

>>15687162
Having a bunch of poor uneducated people is a recipe for crime and everyday violence, which is something you will face in your everyday life if you are mid IQ but not High IQ.
Thus why we need the education.

>>15695130
Your post demonstrates exactly why sub-130-IQs should not receive any kind of education.

>>15696084
>Having a bunch of poor uneducated people is a recipe for crime and everyday violence
Why are you lying? The overwhelming majority of humanty had lived simple and peaceful lives without any education for almost all of human history. Your "education" actually correlates with increases in rape and murder.

>>15693379
>Even at a basic tech level you literally need trig and calc for circuits and chemistry you utter bottomwit.
Only if you go into those professions. Next time try grasping a post before replying to it. Anyone can do their own wiring or mix chemicals without ever having to use trig or calc. Retard

>>15687162
True as fuck, now every shitskin can become a doctor or lawyer with a bit of effort. I fantasize about the wealth and prestige a doctor or lawyer had in the XIX century when most people were peasants...

>>15693860
>amke
Yeah whites are literally smarter than browntards confirmed.

by farting in they mouf. They love that

but seriously, how do you not know this?

you interest them.

>>15686798
>>15693699
Classic smug ESL who heard "you speak better English than most natives" one too many times.