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>"I have a high IQ becaususe i have a college deg-ACK!"
What would you define as the watershed moment, where academic institutions abandoned the original purpose of universities? The declining value of attending university was already being discussed when boomers were most of the student body, but when was it definitive?
As a down syndrome person, I would like to learn about this.

>> No.15657902

>>15657886
>I couldn't get a college degree so I must now cope and mald on a Soviet tap-dancing forum for autists.
Did you drop out or did you not get in to begin with? I'm sorry for your loss either ways.

>> No.15657904

>>15657902
>either ways
The absolute state of university education.

>> No.15657905

What's the matter... Feeling... Caged muuuurhhhuuuuu

>> No.15657908

>>15657886
I heard that the highest iq downie has a 136 iq

>> No.15657909

The point of no return was when they allowed women in university.

>> No.15657923

>>15657902
I don't know what mald is. People with down syndrome have degrees now so it obviously doesn't mean anything.

>> No.15657939

>college
isn't it like an US middle school equivalent?

>> No.15657944

>>15657939
college is now just extended day care for young adults.

>> No.15658274

>>15657886
over 50% of all americans get college degrees, that means that the average iq of a college graduate is about 95 or so

>> No.15658328

>>15657886
>What would you define as the watershed moment, where academic institutions abandoned the original purpose of universities?
You have it the wrong way around.
Universities started with law and theology.
The ancient museums and what not were about learning, and they had vastly different structure and practices.
Modern universities had the purpose of training state functionaries and the like, and chained in with that basic education in mathematics.
The university as a place for science is an enlightenment development where the guys who came up with new mathematics and science then taught at universities, but their community was the republic of letters not the universities and soon after the royal societies and their appointed sinecures.

>> No.15658349

>>15657886
https://mymodernmet.com/dylan-keuhls-down-syndrome-graduates-college/
> He has sustained his ability to shine as a unique individual by graduating from The Evergreen State College in Washington State.
Everyone knows this college is a joke. Its not like a degree from a normal college.
> Kuehl's passion for creativity led him to study for a Bachelor of Arts degree. He enjoyed classes in painting and dance as part of his curriculum, but his primary focus was writing.
His degree doesn't require IQ anyway.

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>>15658349
>Everyone knows this college is a joke. Its not like a degree from a normal college.
mice cope.
college is a scam that only easily tricked low iqs fall for.
you are no more intelligent than a downie

>> No.15658385

>>15658349
It's an accredited college. This just means every other colege under the same accreditation umbrella is just as bunk.

>> No.15658398

>>15657886
>Bachelor of Arts degree
Everyone already knew humanityfags were retards

>> No.15658463

>>15658385
>Out of the billions of retards in the world, they gave one retard a degree saying he can move his hands & put colors on a canvas.
>That means that I'm actually very smart and I failed & dropped out only because they reward retardedness in colleges these day
oof, I can smell your whole life story just from this post. Maybe you could've switched out to a different major. Something along the lines of art or dance like Dylan would've allowed even a retard like yourself to graduate if you tried hard enough. At least you would have had some degree instead of being a bum.

>> No.15658519

>>15658398
Most of the time you actually have to pick a specialization at least. A "Bachelor of Arts" seems like even more of a fake degree than your bog-standard Communications or Liberal Studies. They're either too embarrassed to name his actual major because it's something like poetry or finger-painting, or Evergreen offers the lowest bar degree possible at any accredited school. Which makes sense given that their acceptance rate is 98% and enrollment appears to be in decline for decades now.

>> No.15658646

>>15657904
For all intensive purposes, his point is valid

>> No.15659068

>>15658519
"Bachelor of Arts" is the type of degree, not the major concentration. It generally connotes more breadth and less depth than a Bachelor of Science degree, e.g., if you want to teach mathematics to children you would get a dual BA in mathematics and education, if you want to go on to study math in grad school you would get a BS instead, a Liberal Studies or Communications major would usually be working toward a BA. What you are thinking of is called a Bachelor of Fine Arts degree. Evergreen is big on interdisciplinary roll-your-own-major degrees which is probably why the major isn't given.

>> No.15659073

>>15658646
>For all intensive purposes, his point is valid
Bone apple tea

>> No.15659094

>>15659068
Yeah I knew all that, maybe my post was unclear. I've just never heard of anyone being awarded a Bachelor of Arts in isolation without a listed major. But you're right it's probably just some weird Evergreen thing.

>> No.15659812

>>15658463
nice cope, you're desperate to come up with an excuse for why you're better than that downie, but you can't think up any

>> No.15660680

>>15657886
The watershed moment was whenever going to college implied getting a good job in everyone’s mind (or that you only went SO you could get a good job).

>> No.15660878

The bar should be passing a graduate real analysis class. If you can, then you should be deemed to be at least somewhat intelligent.

>> No.15661322 [DELETED] 

>>15660680
people go to college as a means of work avoidance. people who are developmentally delayed wish to remain schoolchild because they're not willing to join the adult world and become contributing members of society

>> No.15661378

>>15661322
>people go to college as a means of work avoidance
Possibly true today. I graduated from tech school in 2004 and spent six months looking for a job, any job, before I enrolled in college. Couldn't even get a job at McDonald's back then. Though I did get a student job once I enrolled.

>> No.15661396

>>15661322
Management positions are often barred behind a degree requirement. I've met people that stay in school as a means of work avoidance but they go to grad school. The kids who go right out of high school and get a degree in something stupid at a state school are genuinely making a good professional move. Where it gets questionable is going into mountains of debt for a degree in something stupid at a prestigious university. That move often doesn't pay off.

>> No.15661563

>>15661322
A doctor has to go to school for a long time and definitely contributes more to society than you do.

>> No.15661568

>>15657886
>What would you define as the watershed momen
When admissions stopped focusing on merit and started focusing on diversity.

>> No.15661706

>>15657886
>announcement: we are a degree mill now

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>>15657886
>bachelor of arts

>> No.15661942

>>15661563
Don't argue with the retard man, let them fling shit at each other in peace. Exit a retard-filled thread as soon as you notice more than 2 retards congregated. No point in arguing.

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>>15661706
It's Evergreen College. He's far from the most retarded person to go there.

>> No.15662017

>>15657886
>where academic institutions abandoned the original purpose of universities?
The seeds were probably planted with the GI bill.
Universities got their first big taste of government subsidies with it.
The government started subsidizing student loans in 1965 with FFEL.
That is when shit really started sliding.
Add all of the civil rights nonsense that they used to water down the admission standards for activist reasons and you get to where we are.

I think the problem is unnoticed/unresolved because how people view the function of universities has changed.
They used to be viewed as filters that find and concentrate the innate talent that exists.
At some point the politics got involved because the equity crowd noticed the people who passed the filters were performing better economically.
Originally, things were fine (likely optimal) when universities retained their standards and there was extra money for the poor geniuses who couldn't overcome the tuition barrier.
But then they looked at the numbers and found blacks couldn't overcome the admission standards at the same rate as whites and cried racism until the admission standards were watered down.
Things were still functional (despite the inflated cost due to more people passing the admissions standards) since you could still get an idea of who was quality on the back end by looking at GPA.
But then they looked at the numbers and found blacks couldn't achieve a high GPA at the same rate as whites and cried racism until the curriculum/grading standards were watered down.

We are here. We have a non-functional filter that somehow costs way more. We have a private sector which is forced to pretend the credentials on paper have meaning (lest they be accused of discrimination). The private sector also has its hands tied when looking at promotions.
Almost all quality control is gone.

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>>15657886
>"I have a high IQ becaususe i have a college degree"
Nobody said this. The opposite is the case. For high IQ people a degree is trivial and hence not an achievement worth mentioning. Only midwits care about degrees.

>> No.15663355

>>15662017
>But then they looked at the numbers and found blacks couldn't overcome the admission standards at the same rate as whites and cried racism until the admission standards were watered down.

When, specifically, did this occur?

>> No.15663598

>>15657939
>>15657944
Pretty much yeah

>> No.15663928

>>15662671
nice try degreelet

>> No.15664432

>>15663355
Vaguely, it started around the early 70s. It was mostly a cultural push from activist students/administrators post desegregation.
The colleges were willing participants and shit got so out of hand that some states started passing laws (in the 80s and 90s) to prevent consideration of race because so many unqualified blacks were getting in and displacing other more qualified students.
Ironically, the law seems to have been mostly against all of the university shenanigans to unfairly admit blacks throughout the decades.
The lowering of the bar and pursuit of quantity over quality seems to be the response of the universities in order to still let in all of the blacks while not running afoul of the law.

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>>15664432
>this guy was awarded a phd

>> No.15666735

>>15661954
Steve Jobs went there

>> No.15667788

>>15657886
The downfall began when universities starting becoming political, and students were being propagated and radicalized to "fight the power", then later on down the road, students began to succumb to their vices of drugs, alcohol and sex, it became the focus point for most students that want to go university, to be free from restrictive parents and enjoy for the vices. Now, it's inclusivity, not only for profitable gain, but to dilute the fields of academia with useless people that shouldn't have a degree in the first place.

>> No.15667872

>>15667788
>drugs, alcohol and sex, it became the focus point for most students that want to go university, to be free from restrictive parents and enjoy for the vices.
just more subversion of society by the jewish organized crime gangs who control and profit massively from those vice industries.
what was once a meaningful, noble institution of learning has been turned into a cash cow for the jews, who promote all of those vices to children using their media empire and then send the children off to university so that they can feed the jewish vice industries profits

>> No.15668108

>>15666735
So did Paul Stamets

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>>15657886
Anon this is one man, this was likely to happen due to IQ distribution

>> No.15668126

>>15668120
Downies getting college degrees is actually fairly common these days.

>> No.15668487

>>15668120
Imagine what he could've accomplished if he was short 1 chromosome.

>> No.15669226

>>15668487
getting a college degree isn't an accomplishment, over half of everyone gets a college degree, graduating from college only means that you're average

>> No.15669310

>>15657886
The GI bill.

>> No.15669525

>>15666735
Jobs attended Reed College, not Evergreen State.

>> No.15669527

>>15669525
>Reed is ranked fourth in the United States for all postsecondary institutions for the percentage of its graduates who go on to earn a Ph.D., after Caltech, Harvey Mudd, and Swarthmore College.
Meanwhile Evergreen State graduates literal retards.

>> No.15670221

>>15669527
Evergreen & Reed are both liberal arts schools for upper middle class drug addicts, they're easy to confuse. Neither one has any noteworthy alumni other than Jobs and his claim to fame is capitalizing on other people's intellectual abilities, mainly Woz's &.Ive's

>> No.15671284

>>15657886
average university graduate

>> No.15671414

>>15661322
Why tf should I contribute to a society that actively wants to genocide my race and whorships a lie for nearly 80 years (I'm a White Christian German)

>> No.15671625

>>15657886
There is a range of abilities even among people with Down syndrome, especially when you consider mosaic individuals. It’s not surprising that one could fulfill the requirements for a college degree.

>> No.15671629

>>15657886
Before the 1960s when it became solely about indoctrination. My guess would be December 1913 at the birth of satans bank.

>> No.15671752

>>15671414
You can contribute to the genocide of your race that way. Nothing more based than that.

>> No.15671774

Y-you do have internship or prior full-time experience in the domain you're trying to get your advanced degree in, right anon?

>> No.15671865

>>15657886
Going to university does not embody willingness to perform, nor does it embody intelligence..
For most, it is much rather a part of a specific modern day lifestyle, a sort of expectation, a ritual, which is why it has been watered down so much.
The willingness to spend money, lack of results upon failure, as well as the capitalistic nature of this part of the educational system, require it to continually lower the standards, in the quest of getting people to pay more money, while ultimately teaching less and less useful information.
The real value is merely social, as people who regret wasting their time and money based on their retarded normie flock behavior, continue to gatekeep and mock people who made a technically better decision.
Most people should not get into university.
There should be more trade schools, specific to useful modern jobs.
It is worth mentioning, that ideologists took the opportunity to usurp the capacity of the university system, after the fall of the CCCP, as politicians and media let down their guard, which causes all the political issues.
Competency will fade away extremely quickly in the next few years, there will be political clashes, educational standards for both teachers and students will fall.
In short, this is an enormous bubble. A debt trap, which is going to explode in the 2040s.
Only God knows what is going to happen in conjunction with the other events of the time. For all intents and purposes, I do not see how this problem could be resolved with reforms now.
Go to university, if you feel the need for feeling good about yourself, based on societal flock behavior reaffirming you wasting your time and money on a degree that has very little value outside of that same flock behavior.
In a perfect world, you would go based on genuine interest in something like mechanical engineering, biology or anthropology, not based on the illusion of economic value and elitism, stemming from mass delusion.

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>>15670221
>They're the same!!!!
Reed: 35% acceptance rate, 3.9 average GPA, average SAT score 1420
Evergreen: 99.5% acceptance rate, 3.1 average GPA, average SAT score: 1100

>> No.15672522

>>15672286
https://www.reed.edu/reed_magazine/june2010/features/drug_policy/

>> No.15673206

>>15657923
Just because you have down syndrome doesn't mean that you're retarded

>> No.15673214

>>15658382
Holy cope anon
>Payday loans have an average annual percentage rate (APR) ranging from 391% to more than 521%.
https://www.incharge.org/debt-relief/how-payday-loans-work/
>August 2023, federal student loan interest rates for undergraduates are 5.50% for the 2023-24 school year
https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/loans/student-loans/student-loan-interest-rates

>> No.15673556

>>15658274
Pretty sure that is not how it works

>> No.15674883

>>15657886
Low iqs cant get degrees that require math and physics.

>> No.15674965

>>15673556
you're low iq, nobody cares what your opinion is

>> No.15675311

>>15661563
Fuck you dumb ass. I have my own landscaping cmopany. See how things go when all the grass and shrubs grow out of control and reclaim the buildings those doctors "work" in. Plus I pay my taxes and support my local high school athletics teams. You people here don't know shit about what it means to contribute.

>> No.15676094

>>15674883
Which is why all degrees should require math and physics courses.

>> No.15676366

>>15657886
>What would you define as the watershed moment, where academic institutions abandoned the original purpose of universities
90s-early 2000s

>> No.15676704

>>15674883
why not? just because you want to think of yourself as a special snowflake?

>> No.15677349

>>15676094
>Georgia Tech requires all undergrads to pass calculus
>Georgia Tech constantly has a shitty football team
Seems to work.

>> No.15677566

>>15657886
Florida State?

>> No.15677849

>>15671625
This
Also Chris Chan managed to get a degree (albeit taking 5 years for a 2 year degree)

>> No.15678217 [DELETED] 

>>15671625
>It’s not surprising that one could fulfill the requirements for a college degree.
most people get college degrees, anyone can get one, even downies. the people who don't bother getting one are the people who are high iq enough to realize its just a big waste of time, just like high school was

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college degrees per se barely tell you anything about an individual.
that should be a white pill though, even if you're a retarded neet like a lot of people on this shitty board you are most definitely mentally gifted enough to live a successful life, but whatever your score is, you're not guaranteed a positive outcome.

>> No.15679416

>>15675311
>Defends himself by saying he pays taxes, which everyone minus the mega rich does, and that without his contributions to society plants would grow more.
Lmao, yeah my bad. I was obviously wrong.

>> No.15679481

>>15679416
you don't pay taxes, you're overgrown baby thats still in school like a child regardless your advanced chronological age. daddy still pays all your bills for you

>> No.15679542

>>15679481
Hah, I WISH I didn’t pay taxes and that my dad paid all my bills. Pretty hard for him to do that buried six feet in the ground though. Why are you so upset that there are people who graduated college that contribute more to society than you? Do you think you contribute more than anyone else?

>> No.15679973

>>15676704
Low iqs cant do math and physics because it is too irreducibly complex.

>> No.15679992

>>15669527
>Swarthmore College
SIR DO NOT REDEEM

>> No.15680106

>>15678217
Yes, the high IQ route is becoming an HVAC repair guy instead of an engineer or cardiologist

>> No.15680795

>>15680106
>cardiologist
medical error is the leading cause of death in america, doctors kill more people by accident than they save from potentially deadly medical conditions. they're just expensive leeches.
>HVAC repair guy
saves people from deadly heatwaves and cold snaps, a literal hero and a necessary, valuable and contributing member of society

>> No.15680809

>>15675311
You’re delusional. I would explain why but I don’t have time. My hometown is holding a ceremony in my honor and the mayor is presenting me with a key to the city because I mowed my lawn today.

>> No.15681700 [DELETED] 

>>15659094
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_IepvcqGp4&t=10s

>> No.15682544

>>15680809
You're only upset at people who do useful things with their lives because they make you look bad in comparison

>> No.15682570

>>15657908
>>15657886
Downies lose 40 IQ points, on average.
Poor guy, had he been normal he'd literally be in Von Neumann territory.
But good on him, nonetheless.

>> No.15682588

>>15659068
Degree's in pure math are BA degrees

>> No.15683355

>>15682544
Totally. Every time I see a landscaper I get suicidal.

>> No.15683621

>>15682588
Mine wasn't. In fact, the main distinction between a BA and BS in math at my university was that the BA only let you apply so many credits of math toward the degree, which was significantly less than the minimum math credits required toward the BS.

>> No.15684264 [DELETED] 

>>15669527
>the percentage of its graduates who go on to earn a Ph.D
People who need to stay in school until they're 30 before they can find a decent job are low IQ. I was earning over $100k 1 year after graduating high school.

>> No.15684561

>>15658274
No, it only means that the lowest graduate IQ is below 100.

>> No.15685767 [DELETED] 

>>15684561
wrong

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this is what a university graduate looks like
show the children

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>> No.15686894 [DELETED] 

>>15658382
Conservatives are retard who beg their children to pay the Jew back rather than beating the Jew to a pulp and looting their shekel chest

>> No.15686922

>>15685767
No, he's right. If the median IQ is 100, and more than 50% of the population is getting college degrees, then the lowest IQ graduate should be below 100 IQ. I guess they could be exactly 100 IQ, but in theory the chance of being exactly 100 IQ is zero.
Of course the actual proportion of college graduates is still below 50%, unless you include Associate's degrees and trade schools.

>> No.15688260

If even downies can get degrees, then morons without degrees are even more stupid than people with downs syndrome

>> No.15688293

>>15686922
>in theory the chance of being exactly 100 IQ is zero
That would be the case if IQ scores were continuous, but they're discrete since they're always given as integers.

>> No.15688818

>>15686856
lol

>> No.15688824

>>15657923
>anon doesn't know how to use a dictionary to look up and learn common English words
It must be difficult to live with down syndrome, as you plainly do.

>> No.15688826

>>15658274
>>15674965
retard
>>15673556
correct

>> No.15689204

>>15673206
>Just because you have down syndrome doesn't mean that you're retarded
Downies suffer from so many neurological and motoric issues that any IQ tests given to them must account for the elementary difficulties they face in carrying out those tasks.

In defense, however. Even accounting for all that, it's clear that the average Downie performs well below the average normie on IQ-related tasks.

>> No.15689424

>>15657909
agreed the purpose of universities was exploration and free thought
women r hive-minded collectivists

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>>15674883
Wrong.

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>>15686751

>> No.15690577

>>15657886
>watershed moment
What a stupid fucking expression. You sound like a pseud

>> No.15691901 [DELETED] 

>>15690577
why do redditiers always inject profanity into their posts, is it because of their immaturity and lack of emotional self control?

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>>15657902
>Soviet forum for autists
You’re on 4chinnz not the sharty and the sharty is dead since last week.

>> No.15692054

>>15691910
what happened to the sharty?

>> No.15692137

>>15657944
Threads over boys, go home

>> No.15692150

engineering filters for >115 IQ in US schools
>130-140 IQ in top competitive schools in both US and overseas
medschool filters for grit and hardworking capability + >110 IQ
math,phys etc are pretty much worthless as undergrad degrees (unless you're scum and willing to work in finance) and you need >140+ IQ and some work ethic to comfortably finish grad level stuff

anything else is just a certificate showing you can follow directions and those people should work in trades or their degrees should really only take 2 years

>> No.15692186

>>15690577
>You stupid fucking chud
life imitates art

>> No.15692203

>>15659073
Its bone appetite like a serial killer fat gut.

>> No.15692205

>>15657902
Why are college kids always so barely literate?

>> No.15692475

>>15657923
>mald
Probably just means seething going by context

>> No.15692494

>>15657908
I heard that too, there's 8 billion people lol why are people surprised a few downies have degrees

>> No.15692613

>>15689731
I’m a grad school dropout in physics. Got in the 60th percentile on the physics gre my senior year of undergrad and felt like a total failure. Went to my state school, which only required a 50th percentile at the time. After I’m there for a bit we are in the grad student office and start to talk about the physics gre. In a room of 1st and second year grad students with probably 15 international and 10 domestic, I was the only American who met the requirement. Turns out my school will conditionally accept you as long as you hit the 50th percentile within two years of being there. I became so disillusioned with American education in that moment.

>> No.15693011 [DELETED] 

>>15692494
>downies are smart!!
college cuck's cope

>> No.15693036

>>15688824
mald is not a common English word, it's twittertalk

>> No.15693041

>>15693036
yet it's in my dictionary, how curious.

>> No.15693047

>>15693041
it's not in the OED which is the only dictionary that matters

>> No.15693058

>>15693047
Wiktionary is better, it has more words.

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>>15693011

>> No.15694616

>>15659812
You didn’t deny what he said anon. Are you a bum?

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>>15661563
>doctor
>contributes to society
medical error is the leading cause of death in america
no matter what medical condition you're suffering from, going to see a doctor only increases your likelihood of death
doctors only contribute to the undertaking industry

>> No.15695713

not all downies are tards. A lot of them have normal intelligence actually.

>> No.15695723

>>15695713
This one was obviously a retard because it attended Evergreen.

>> No.15697225 [DELETED] 

>university graduates have downie tier intellects
its funny because its true

>> No.15697370

>>15697225
You have no degree, so you're even less intelligent than a downie

>> No.15697377

>>15695705
Okay anon.

>> No.15697385
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>>15695705
>medical error is the leading cause of death in america
lol okay

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>>15697370
>You have no degree, so you're even less intelligent than a downie

>> No.15698806

>>15698312
Hick cope
Even that downie in the OP is better than you

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>>15697370
>he still thinks getting a degree is a function of intelligence rather than payment and compliance

>> No.15699689

>>15695713
>tards
retard is short for "retarded intellectual development"

>> No.15700708

>>15657944
>young adults.
that term used to mean early-mid teens, now it refers to people in their 20s

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>> No.15702273 [DELETED] 

>>15700708
>people in their 20s
who play video games, watch cartoons, don't have jobs, aren't contributing members of society and daddy still pays all their bills
AKA overaged children
or kidults in modern parlance

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>> No.15704074

>>15689731
>they are le poor predictor
> … but let’s only regard the already filtered subset
Murder imbeciles.

Murder imbeciles.

>> No.15704085

>>15665133
>forced to see it every night
The only place I see his face is /sci/

>> No.15704701 [DELETED] 

>>15699689
>"retarded intellectual development"
>>15702273
>people in their 20s who play video games, watch cartoons, don't have jobs, aren't contributing members of society and daddy still pays all their bills

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Dr. Karen Gaffney PhD downie

>> No.15706257

>>15704701
>people in their 20s who play video games, watch cartoons, don't have jobs, aren't contributing members of society and daddy still pays all their bills
Yeah that's retarded economic development, not intellectual.

>> No.15706601

>>15689731
>these scores are a poor predictor of success if we assume that gender and race invalidate them
Maybe they're perfectly adequate predictors of success and women and minorities are just correctly being filtered out at the appropriate ratio compared to white men.

>> No.15707628

>>15706257
if you're behaving like a child at an adult age then you're suffering from arrested intellectual development, AKA retarded intellectual development

>> No.15707748

>>15707628
If you aren't behaving like a child from time to time then you're a shit parent. Loosen up, throw some water balloons at your wife or something. No matter how butthurt you get over NEETs, NEETing isn't equivalent to retarded intellectual development, nor is it equivalent to acting like a child. Although it's mildly amusing that you've left me wondering whether you're just being childish by posting this or you're actually so stupid that you believe it, so thanks for that.

>> No.15709158

>>15707748
you're behaving like a child at an adult age because you're suffering from arrested intellectual development, AKA retarded intellectual development.

>> No.15709295

>>15709158
>you're
On what basis? Given that I'm a husband, father, homeowner, and contributing member of society. Is everyone who disagrees with you retarded?

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>>15657886

>> No.15710425

>>15709295
pics of wife, children, house and deed or you're lying

>> No.15711127

>>15710425
Well that answers >>15707748, you're being childish. I accept your concession of defeat.

>> No.15711874 [DELETED] 

>>15710425
>no pics
it was a lie all along

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>>15705599
>downies get phds

>> No.15714414 [DELETED] 

why do college kids all presume that they have superior IQ when they're old and still haven't even figured out how to earn a living yet? smart people are already making decent money when they're still in high school

>> No.15715436

>>15714414
affluenza, its causes pampered rich kids to mature more slowly, if ever, and to eventually lead a much less full life.
kids that aren't pampered can end up going much, much further and doing it much, much faster
heres 20 year old mike tyson, already a world famous multimillionaire, scoring his 21st knockout victory
https://youtu.be/CRCVwsIokEw?t=152

>> No.15716412

>>15698806
>the h-word
notice how you can call whites any name in the book and jannie does nothing, but jannie issues bans constantly for using the n-word.

>> No.15717515

>>15657886
this only demonstrates how bad grade inflation has gotten.

>> No.15718183

>>15716412
yes, everyone notices

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>i graduated from college
>that means i'm as smart as a downie

>> No.15720557 [DELETED] 

if downies get sympathy gibes degrees then do they get sympathy gibes pussy too?

>> No.15721961 [DELETED] 

>>15705599
downie nobel laureate soon

>> No.15723054

>>15688826
>t. low iq

>> No.15723099

>>15723054
What's the average IQ of the half of the population that's on the upper half of the IQ curve?

>> No.15723101

>>15657902
But he have a good question. Seriously if college degrees can be done by people of lower IQ then, what does it mean?

>> No.15723111

Yeah.

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Muh blaq wimmen be gon ta da kolidge n sheit yall crackuhz donn e'en np

>> No.15724179

>>15702273
Nothing more sad than somebody over 28 who still lives with their parents and hasn't launched their career. Plenty even with graduate degrees but are just too useless to employ.

>> No.15724403 [DELETED] 

>>15723099
about 40 points above yours

>> No.15724410

>>15724403
You seem to be awfully upset about being obviously wrong.

>> No.15724428

>>15723113
Now let's look at what degrees they pursue, how many complete them, what schools award them, and their success in using those degrees to improve their lives. If they're mainly fashion merchandising degrees from Full Sail University, it just means lots of black women have tons of student loan debt and career prospects that are unaffected by having a degree.

>> No.15725562 [DELETED] 

>>15724410
You seem to be awfully upset about being obviously low IQ

>> No.15726827

>>15723101
It means having a college degree signifies low IQ

>> No.15726845

>>15723101
It means not having a degree implies you're even less intelligent than a downie

>> No.15726847

>>15726845
Degrees have far more to do with compliance than intelligence.

>> No.15726877

>>15726847
Cope

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>>15726877
You're the one who must cope.

You are a schizophrenic lefty college kiddie mutt who thinks his degree is going to be useful.

I have one, serious deal with plenty achievements, I am obviously white and claim here and now, it's useless

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This is what a university graduate looks like
Show the children
Especially the children of color

>> No.15727891

>>15700708
Oh you didn’t know? There was a “study” that claimed “children” death from shooting tripled or something in USA. The “scientists” used age 1-19 to push their claim under name of “children and “teens”
Yes 1-19, because that one extra year is when so many gangbanging hoorats die in gang wars and it could inflate the numbers
Science turning into a literal joke nowadays

>> No.15729293

>>15727882
lol

>> No.15730869

>>15726827
Falling for the scam indicates that. Smart people don't get fooled so easily

>> No.15732041

>>15723099
>i can't do math
low iq

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>u go 2 college
>ur first day of class
>u go into the classroom
>its filled with downies
>the professor walks in
>shes a downie
how would you feel in this situation if you hadn't eaten breakfast?

>> No.15733236

I have a degree in sociology and it's definately a proof of intelligence and education. I consider myself smarter than most people.

>inb4 "but muh STEM"
STEM people live in their isolated bubble with math and equations. They are functionally retarded outside of their bubble. Recently I talked to a physicist who didn't even know what pansexual means. Can you imagine being that uneducated?

>> No.15734804 [DELETED] 

>be retarded
>go to college
>graduate in 4 years

>> No.15735848

>>15734804
I already know it was going to come to this ages ago when they started giving ADHD kids extra time on exams

>> No.15736024

>>15733236
Die trash

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>>15736024
triggered

>> No.15737666

>>15733173
But I did eat breakfast.

>> No.15737749

>>15733236
>RP
I'll act as if not.

The difference is that 80% of physicists can easily accurately reconstruct what "pansexual" could mean, whereas not even 20% of sociologists could a) understand what the term "linear operator" refers to, but b) more importantly, they could never even get it, even if explained, i.e. it's not related to what word you use for it.

>where do 80% and 20% come from? Sources?
You can't use indeterminate/undefined variables which only stand in an inequality relation with each other with low IQs.

>> No.15737780 [DELETED] 

>>15737749
>muh iq
>i'm soooo smart cuz i fell for the STEM meme
you have nothing else going for you so you decided to develop an identity solely based on your imaginary iq
>non-stemfags don't understand the schizophasiac lingo, buzzwords and catchphrases that i've wasted years on pointlessly memorizing
who cares? you mays as well have memorized a bunch of baseball stats or comic book characters' backstory

>> No.15737785

>>15657902
>soviet tap dancing
shut the fuck up
this is the mongolian basket weaving website
take your commiecope elsewhere

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>>15737666

>> No.15738450

>>15657909
/thread

>> No.15738997

>>15737780
cringe low IQ cope

>> No.15739030

>>15673214
I took out subsidized loans. I had the money, but if you offer me a loan and say tax payers will cover interest for the next 4 years, I'd be an idiot not to take. Enjoy making those payments for me wagies. I'll consider it again in 4 years when inflation has reduced the loans value by another 10% at least lmao

>> No.15739537

>>15671774
Kek imagine studying at uni and not realising the only thing that matters is exploiting the chance to get your foot in the door through meme internships. Blank CV = permanently fucked, so many people then end up going down the COPE pipeline of graduate school, reach the end, and are STILL unemployable because their CV IS BLANK and HR don't want to hear 'in X uni project' as the answer to every interview question. Sad, but they never listen, not my problem.

>> No.15739555

>>15692150
Got a £70k software engineering job in a FAGMAN company with a maths undergrad degree. High in the UK compared to other STEM (engineers like £25k starting kek) because it is a shithole, but a relative W is a relative W.

>> No.15739629

>>15706601
everyone is equal so that cannot be the case

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>> No.15742067 [DELETED] 

>>15733173
this happened to me

>> No.15743188 [DELETED] 

>>15719538
Congratulations, you're now a fully fledged NPC

>> No.15743249

>>15657886
look its the average software engineer when he calls himself "engineer"

>> No.15743824

>>15663928
Already been there done that, no one respects you the way you think they do
>muh arts dukree

>> No.15744604 [DELETED] 

>>15737666
lol

>> No.15744824

>>15657902
not my loss I assure you

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>>15743824

>> No.15746895

>be retarded
>go to college

>> No.15747796 [DELETED] 

>>15739555
Are you a downie?

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>> No.15748809

IQ occurs naturally on the upper echelons of IQ. You, perhaps, unlike I, have probably not scored and IQ point or took any sort of legitimate test.

IQ is for super intellectuals only.

>> No.15748834

>>15748794
Who is this semen demon? Does she have an OF?

>> No.15748894

>>15748794
Life's full of United Parcel Service and Fetal Alcohol Syndrome?

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>>15745575

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Iykyk

>> No.15751160

>>15657886
>The declining value of attending university was already being discussed when boomers were most of the student body
The boomer problem was that a lot of people who would have otherwise never bothered with attending university decided to go as a means of avoiding the Vietnam draft. Thats when the "underwater basket weaving degree" meme got started.

>> No.15751847

>>15678943
They really should split research and professional degrees. An MBA is qualitatively nothing like an MS in a STEM field.

>> No.15752220

>when ur peer review committee is over 50% downies

>> No.15753535

>>15752220
>when ur peer review committee is over 50% downies and there is no effective difference from peer review committees with no downies

>> No.15754733

>>15657886
>Downies getting university degrees
might as well, women and blacks are getting them too

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>>15754733
gibez me dat college degree muffugguh

gibez me dat phd fo free

>> No.15757025 [DELETED] 

>>15748834
>she
https://archived.moe/lgbt/thread/28999895

>> No.15758699 [DELETED] 

>>15743249
engineers are people who operate engines

>> No.15758967 [DELETED] 

>>15657886
jesus christ this board is so slow. this thread is a month old and just keeps getting a post everytime it hits page ten. Can we just spam this till post limit?

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>>15758699

>> No.15761250 [DELETED] 

>>15724428
cope, you have the same qualifications as a downie

>> No.15762192 [DELETED] 

>>15754733
every other flavor of mentally ill person is also getting them

>> No.15763869

"I have a high IQ becaususe i have a college deg-ACK!"

>> No.15763887

>>15657908
>I heard that the highest iq downie has a 136 iq
Lol no
Thats an urban miff

>> No.15763893

>>15657908
professional iq testing is a scam

>> No.15764074

>>15657902
lmao get him

>> No.15764125

>>15657908
This is the most retarded thing I have seen on 4chan all week

>> No.15764687 [DELETED] 

I bet that downie has a bigger dick than STEM sissies too

>> No.15764757

>>15657886
oh fuck it's the evergreen state college
that place is fun

>> No.15766151 [DELETED] 

Imagine going to college, getting your degree and then going to apply for a job and eventually finding out that they gave your job to a downie instead

>> No.15766421

>>15657886
My private middle school was more academically difficult than my four years at a top 25 state university.

>> No.15766711

>>15766421
You had an easy time later on in your education because you studied harder than most people do early on. Not sure what point you're trying to make. Are you saying Evergreen is academically challenging because its a private school?

>> No.15767251

>>15658349
Did he graduate because he had an objective sense of beauty and form or because he was unable to perceive objective aesthetics and therefore unaffected by "modern arts" that are intentionally ugly?

>> No.15768825

>>15766711
>Evergreen is academically challenging because…
…all of the students cripple themselves intellectually with massive amounts of mind bending drugs

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>>15766711
Evergreen is a public university, which should tell you something about the State of Washington since it funds this trash.

>> No.15769589 [DELETED] 

>>15768833
They're probably the ones making money selling drugs to the students

>> No.15769648

>>15733236
Nobody really knows what pansexual means, it just means you’re horny

>> No.15770903 [DELETED] 

>>15769648
>horny
desperate and unwanted

>> No.15771841

>>15753535
We're already living in a world where academic journals accept articles written in ebonics
>sheeeiiittt muh p value mufffiggin 0.5 all up in dis beeeyach

>> No.15772973

>>15657886
stunning and brave

>> No.15773678 [DELETED] 

How does a downie get a college degree? Aren't college degrees only supposed to be for smart people?

>> No.15773708

>>15657908
So you are saying there are super retards. Makes sense.

>> No.15773742

>>15773678
>Aren't college degrees only supposed to be for smart people?
No, college degrees are magic talismans that grant extra income. Everyone is entitled to a college degree talisman.

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>>15750260
oh lawd, the chance of randomly corralling 4 130+s (less than 1% of the pop) in a venue that specifically is aimed at a mid to low IQ audience, are infinitesimal.
Glad they managed that feat!

>> No.15774801 [DELETED] 

>>15773742
If everyone, even the completely retarded downies, gets an extra income talisman then doesn't that just mean they're all getting average income, but wasting a large percentage of their life and a few hundred thousand dollars sitting through an extra 4 years of school to do it?

>> No.15774978

>>15774801
No, the talisman is magical and you're a racist for even questioning it.

>> No.15775121

>>15773749
anon did you never take a statistics course? 130 is just 2 SD's in a normal distribution. That's not less than 1% each... it's ~2.2% each.

if you meant the cumulative odds of getting 4 of them, disregard, but 1% would be several orders of magnitude larger than necessary, and weakens your point

>> No.15775510

>>15775121
I didn't say 130, I said, 130+, and if you regard the pic I quoted, indeed no one there is 130.
Please use your eyes, zoomie undergrad.

>> No.15775985

>>15775510
Also add in that two of the 130+ are female, which are far less common at that level than males.

>> No.15775998

>>15657909
this and this for most topics relating to admission of anything. someone can post that image.

>> No.15777075

>>15773678
>Aren't college degrees only supposed to be for smart people?
no, college degrees are for gullible idiot who think that the "college degrees are for smart people" meme is real just because they saw it on tv

>> No.15777088

>this thread is still up after 47 days

>> No.15777543

>>15777088
does that upset you?

>> No.15777552

>>15709875
how do you even fill a 3 year, 24-course degree for social work
like what subjects are people in a bachelor of social work studying is it just like 4 core and 20 electives

>> No.15778063

>>15657886
>economies slowly transition to skill-based hiring
nothin personnel, degreetards

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>>15778063
>economies slowly transition to skin-based hiring

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>>15778926

>> No.15780567 [DELETED] 

>>15657886
First time in ages I've seen a heterosexual white male receive recognition for any achievement in academia

>> No.15781277 [DELETED] 

>>15780567
>get plastic surgery so you look like a downie
>suddenly all doors that were previously closed to you swing wide open
seems like an easier and less humiliating life hack than being a tranny or a faggot

>> No.15781339

>>15657886
is it not more telling that a literal retard could get one, but you couldn't?

>> No.15781681

>>15677349
Michigan does the same

>> No.15781768

>>15781681
No it doesn't. Took me less than a minute to find that LSA degrees at the University of Michigan only require three credit hours of qualitative reasoning, which can be satisfied by a single economics, astronomy, oceans explorations, intro to statistics, elementary programming concepts, or any of a couple dozen other freshman level gimme classes.
Why would you like about something so easy to check? Please help me understand what motivates you to post false shit like that.

>> No.15781781

>>15781768
Qualitative reasoning? What in the woman is that?

>> No.15782258

>>15657886
College is for fucking geeks, watch this to truly get rich and successful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVhg3FCnzwg

>> No.15782990 [DELETED] 

>>15782258
imaging getting a better education in 6 hours than university students get in 4 years

>> No.15784030 [DELETED] 

>>15782258
This video is excellent

>> No.15784881 [DELETED] 

>>15657886
>As a down syndrome person, I would like to learn about this.

>"I have a high IQ becaususe i 4ch-ACK!"

>> No.15786189

>be retarded
>go to college

>> No.15786947

>>15784881
lol
really makes you wonder how many other posters on 4chan are also downies. i bet OP is not the only downie on /sci/

>> No.15787897

>>15657886
They made knowledge a business, and everyone is welcomed to pay the fee. Not that they sell any real knowledge, just enough shit for you to run someones books.

>> No.15787923

>>15657886
>down syndrome

So he has a CS degree

>> No.15788152

>>15786947
I have down syndrome
t. astrophysics major graduating in the spring

>> No.15788798

>>15788152
Its a double major in astronomy and physics, I'm also getting a minor degree in math. I had an internship with NASA over the summer and got my name on a paper as coauthor too, my boss at NASA said I should apply for a job there after I graduate

>> No.15789925

>>15788152
>>15788798
have you ever had your IQ tested?

>> No.15789932

>>15775510
>130+s (less than 1% of the pop)
This statement is false

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>>15723101

>> No.15790897

>>15789925
IQ tests are fake and gay
t. astrophysics downie