/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15653711
>affect no-one's day to day life
>Life hasn't changed at all in the last 20 years because of new inventions and discovered
Did you fall on your head as a kid?

>>15653754
I know you're talking about smartphones. All those did was make kids gayer and dumber.

>>15653711
>turned out to be fake
no, they were just locked away and called fake so people forget about it

>>15653918
That's not any better.

>>15653769
yep

>>15653769
i got gayer and smarter actually

>>15653711
>every recent discovery which claimed to be world changing turned out to be fake
Covid vaccines weren't fake.

>>15653754
>time travel to 2000
>you know your laptop? it's gonna be smaller, combined with a cell phone, and have a poor quality camera built into it. yeah it's more powerful but most programs are just bloated and don't really take advantage of it I guess haha
>imagine being able to order delivery or call a cab right from your cell phone! no wait this is different, you don't have to dial
>yeah search engines are way cool, except actually they were better around your guy's time and now they just show you ads and a bunch of indian stuff
>medicine? the big advancement was a treatment for gays with HIV so they can keep fucking each other in the ass. yeah that stem cell stuff doesn't go anywhere
>video games are prettier but also way less fun. virtual reality just hurts your eyes and also doesn't have any games, the big use is for perverts to pretend to be animals or to watch porn for twenty minutes before you cum and/or get a headache

>>15655405
Kek!

>>15655399
>Covid vaccines weren't fake.
Yeah, but they didn't prevent Covid. They just gave everyone who took them a fatal prion disease.

>>15653711
It sorta shows your age when you post cringe like this. I honestly can't imagine anyone over 20 thinking like this, let alone someone that wasn't born in 20XX

>>15655481
I sorta get it. There haven't been a lot of big paradigm shifts on the consumer end since the late 2000s. There's been a lot of cool shit if you know where to look for it of course, rapidly improving robotic manufacturing, much better construction materials, immune therapies for cancer, much better battery technology, but it hasn't much changed what KINDS of things most people buy or use on a day to day basis.

>>15655549
There's been plenty of change, even just from 2010. The difference is that when were born at 2003 and can only vaguely remember events from 2015 onwards of course 2023 doesn't look any different to you.

>but it hasn't much changed what KINDS of things most people buy or use on a day to day basis
born in 20XX

>>15655481
>Why, just in my lifetime, we discovered sixty totally real non-binary genders, and that certainly changed the world!

>>15655569
Fact of the matter is that life is totally different from just 2000 but you don't know that because you weren't living in 2000. Your view is transmogrified because you expect things to change more between 2015 and 2023 than they did between 1300 and 1900 dates which you consider close and basically the same because to you their happend in the 2 days you went over them in school.

>>15655405
Good post, but it is even worse.
In 2000 the Palm PDA's were already out for a number of years.
Also released in 2000 was pic related, which is already a smart phone.
The first camera phone was also released in 2000.
Another one
>Tivo and DVR's. We sort of still have them, but now the harddisk is in another place and you have to pay to access it.

>>15655566
Great examples, dipshit. Name a substantial change in consumer products since the iphone

>>15655405
I think this is a bad take desu. Human development is exponential. Life has changed much more in the last 20 years in terms of development than probably any time in history before this. In terms of Inventions and discoveries. If you took a man from the year 1600 and put him in the year 1700, sure he wouldn't fit in perfectly. But life wouldn't have change THAT much. But if you took a man from just 1990 and put him in 2023, he would be completely flabbergasted by how much everything has changed, at least in terms of newer inventions etc.

It's not that things are not changing, or that new inventions are not being made. The material condition of people is changing quite abit. But you perceive stagnation (which you express by saying that all changes have been minute and useless) because there is a cultural stagnation, not material stagnation. In terms of material advancement, we are getting exponentially more advanced. But in terms of cultural advancement, we are getting exponentially lesser advanced. Culturally, not much has changed in quite a while. A little chance, yes, but not nearly as much as they used to have. Culture has not changed as much 1970 to 2020 as it did in 1800 to 1850, for example. So you perceive no change in culture and superimpose that stagnation on material advancement when that is just not true.
(here's a nice article on Stuck culture btw https://lindynewsletter.beehiiv.com/p/culture-stuck).). Stuck culture=/= material stagnation. The culture is stuck precisely because of the exponential material advancement.

>>15655573
>that life is totally different from just 2000
Indeed.

>"Project Ginger, is it going to change the way we build cities?"
>Oh, wait, you are talking about the Segway? No, not really, it turns out it's just a self balancing two wheeled gadget. But 20 years from now, we have them with only one wheel.
>We do have electric cars in the future tho
>"Oh, you mean like the EV1"
>Yeah, but not they catch fire when you charge them.

>>15655615
I don't need to. I can simply mock you for being young for not noticing. A perfect argumentative suplex if I say so myself and I can up with this after half liter of vodka

>>15655648
Same to you retard. The more you try to sound gay the more silly you sound and more right I am.

>>15655573
I was alive in 1980, you presumptuous snot. Yes, the world has changed: Everyone is dumber, lazier, and more self-righteous. I have to lock my door now because of the diversity renovating my community. I'm on camera all the time. Everything is covered in garbage. Everyone has all the knowledge in the world in their pockets, but they can't make a loaf of bread to save their lives and their biggest concern is that criminals aren't being treated nicely enough by police officers. Homes are too expensive to buy. Everyone is a fucking drug addict. They vote the way CNN tells them to and go wank to internet porn in their mom's basement.

I assumed you were asking about POSITIVE changes due to technology. All the positive changes we were promised were lies. This isn't the fault of new technology. It's the fault of retards who actually believe new technology is going to solve their problems while they gain weight and watch TikTok videos.

>>15655660
Well in that case you are simply low IQ

lmao

>life is totally better and futuristic because we have smartphones!

>>15655661
>iF U dOnt aGreE wItH me, Ur DUM!

>>15655675
Yes.

>>15655686
anime is for faggots

>>15655701
Not only that, but the most redditcore chinese cartoon of the past decade.

>>15655701
En mää anime kun vaan vitun kännis but I mena it, you tarded if yiu disagree wihm eme ja tässä kuva

>>15655701
>>15655710
Mut joo, basicallly you < me in 3%* That's all there is to it.

>>15653711
Stable Diffusion is probably our last big invention desu.

>>15655726
>says life has changed since 2000
>doesn't say how but instead just says "nuh uh" over and over to anyone who disagrees

>>15655742
Basically homopoika 100% desive play

>>15655749
You should get a tripcode.

>>15655753
you got blown out face the facts my guy

>>15655734
Chatbots, expert systems and neural networks already existed.
But chatgpt it not even an expert system because it only gives politically correct answers.

>Climate change, reducing CO2, Are we going to use Nuclear power plants to fix that?
>Nah, we are going to place windmills everywhere for 5x the cost and just hope the wind blows when we need electricity because an earthquake happened near Japan.

>"How about culture. I'm sure the new Millenium is going to be great!"
>Well, about a year from now, there is going to be a big false flag event which results in a war in Afghanistan because everybody forgot about Newtons law's being a thing.
And then somebody makes a power point and we invade Iraq.

That's basically the reason we're all in on quantum physics and AI
We're trying to cut through all the fluff and go straight to universal source code and get answers that way

>>15655660
>If you invent phones and put everyone on tiktok, people will become lazy
>That means that phones were never invented
Are your tarded?
Sometimes, negative life quality outcomes are a result of material betterment. The fact that everyone is obese doesn't mean that we have less food now. It means precisely that we have more. It is a negative outcome resultant from material betterment. Material improvement =/= Life quality improvement. You are a retard. Do you think they even could become this lazy, obese and drug addicted a hundred years ago without all the material improvements in society we have now? We made all this possible exactly because of the shit that we have made, not because we are regressing to the 16th century. This (what you call shitty) life wouldn't even be possible with the primitive tech and science they had in the 18th century. Sad that you are 40+ and still don't know the basics of how the world works. Without the internet (a material improvement that has had many negative consequences) you might have been much wiser at this age.

>>15655814
I didn't say AI. I said specifically Stable Diffusion which combines latent space. Internet is vastly different specimen post Stable.

>>15655831
The simplest way to explain the current state of the West is extreme amounts of psychological trauma and brain damage.
The physical parts being caused by poor food, pollution, heavy metals.
The psychological by the decline in culture, loss of purpose and intentional trauma campaigns such as climate scare, covid, etc

Culture is supposed to act like an antidote against tiktok and being lazy and fat.

>>15653754
What thing of any value was invented in the past 20 years?

>>15656306
How about iPhone, retard? This sub has seriously gone downhill with people like you.

>>15653711
The world has certainly changed since the introduction of the internet to the dumb masses.
>inb4 but it doesn't count because the change is le bad

>>15655820
>We're trying to cut through all the fluff and go straight to universal source code and get answers that way
Ernest Jones, in 1913, was the first to construe extreme narcissism, which he called the "God-complex", as a character flaw. He described people with God-complex as being aloof, self-important, overconfident, auto-erotic, inaccessible, self-admiring, and exhibitionistic, with fantasies of omnipotence and omniscience. He observed that these people had a high need for uniqueness.

>>15655619
Totally and utterly at odds with reality, hope you didn't spend too long reading one man's divorced from reality ramblings. Culture has changed more rapidly the past century than any period previously. In the past 20 years alone you've seen a total replacement of religion with some racial morality. You've seen cultural and arts traditions replaced with afrophilia. Every day interactions and norms changed both top down by laws and from population mixing. People can keep up with their new amd gpu, they can't keep up with the destabilising cultural shifts

>>15657415
>In the past 20 years alone you've seen a total replacement of religion with some racial morality.
because the government says racism is evil

>>15653711
>LK-99 is over
>back to AI hype for the next 20 years at least

>>15655656
Drinking is for faggots. And telling people about your drinking like it's cool is even more pathetic.

>>15653711
>turned out to be fake
wrong

>>15653711
Why do you feel entitled to rapid technological development during your life? This has historically not been the norm.

>>15655566
I was born in 85. Literally nothing has changed since 2010.

>>15655593
In 2000 it was very uncommon for people to own digital cameras, most people still used film. Also most people still used street atlases to get around, GPS navigation was rare and expensive.

>>15653711
>actual discoveries are extremely minute in practice and affect no-one's day to day life
You're conflating applications of discoveries with scientific discoveries.

Actually affecting the 'day to day life' of billions of people takes a fuckload of money, more time than you'd think, and ideally a readiness for change among the people you're influencing.

>>15653711
İn the last century, we have reached to the point where a person, however smart he is, cannot make any new discoveries by himself. And since then we're approaching to a point where the methods we use to work together are fully realized. So, until we find a way to hack our brains or invent AGI we won't see much progress.

>>15659286
digital cameras remain inferior in image quality to film

>>15659358
That may be so, but digital easily wins for convenience and price.

>>15659329
>You're conflating applications of discoveries with scientific discoveries.
What recent "breakthroughs" have practical applications?

>>15659329
>Actually affecting the 'day to day life' of billions of people takes a fuckload of money
this is mostly because the markets have been captured by huge corporations and it's cheaper to make competition have huge financial barriers to entry than to actually compete on quality. hell, sometimes they'll eat a loss just to price competitors out of business. free markets aren't free, and regulations are captured by preexisting parties (that's why you see "AI companies" driving for massive "AI regulations" - they're scared shitless that open source projects will put them out of business and want to kill them immediately).

oh, and academia is completely fucking rotted by the profit motive from the labs to the universities to the publishers - the only real takeaway overall is that, even if you think capitalism is somehow not just really, really shit at innovation in the long term, the profit motive absolutely is. we didn't ask the private sector to crack the atom OR to invent ways to take us to space - what's happening today is literally private companies picking up after the dregs of discarded government spaceflight programs and ideas, and so far only succeeding in... spaces that they didn't start. while heavily subsidized by government spending on payloads.

the reusable rockets thing isn't even new, the fucking Soviets were building Energia and Buran before Melon Husk had even been fired from PayPal for incompetence

>>15659358
Yeah, and cuneiform lasts longer than paper. Cheapness and efficiency are also key aspects of one thing superseding another.

>>15653711
>every recent discovery which claimed to be world changing turned out to be fake
big media distraction that turns out to be fake?
pure cohencidence

>>15659576
the invention of ivermectin was genuinely useful

>>15662277
Oh boy, another flavor of cold medicine.

>>15660849
>capitalism bad
>Energia was reusable
>Buran wasn't just a copy of the space shuttle which was itself a shit design
>"Melon Husk"
Thank you for letting everyone in this thread know you have an IQ capped at 100 and anything you say can be safely ignored

>>15659576
It's difficult to know. Sometimes it is easy to see at least some application like LK99 (if if actually is a superconductor). Sometimes it takes decades for the importance of something to be had and you have to blend it with other disciplines in order for it to be considered monumental. Mendel's pea plants come to mind. Originally thought to be obscure, irreproducible noise (especially with his unfortunate hawkweed follow-up), it's now a seminal work. He died before his paper was even ever cited 3 times.

>>15660849
And just because you are so fucking monumentally stupid, let me provide you with a list of inventions that were created by either private individuals or corporations in capitalist societies:
>Internal Combustion Engines
>The Telephone
>The Radio
>Electric motors
>Motion photography
>The Airplane
>The Light bulb
>The Cathode Ray Tube aka TV
>The Air Conditioner
>The Refrigerator
>The Transistor
(list truncated for brevity)
Know what else these things have in common? They're far more relevant to your daily life than atomic energy or spaceflight, even if you're employed in those iindustries

>>15653711
The internet?
Smart phones/micro-computers
mRNA vaccines????!!!

What fucking wooden hut do you live in where your life hasn't been dramatically changed by the ever quickening pace of technological advance?

>>15655405
>>15653711
Sounds like you're just too dumb to understand things around you.

>>15662363
The World Wide Web is over 30 years old at this point and the underlying telecommunications technology goes back to the 60s, stupid zoomer

>>15662363
>Smart phones

>>15655686
>proceeds to repeat "POINTLESS" for 5 minutes straight

>>15662376
Those phones are smarter than the people who own them. The phones are the ones calling the shots in that relationship