/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15645889
Nah

>>15645889
>Koreans confirm what other fellow koreans said

Fuck off chang

>>15645897
THIS.
It's time to put it away.

here's Bard AI take on LK-99

>>15645897
>>15645900
>Overfag seethe

>>15645905
>Superconductor
>Conductor
>Trains
Lel

>>15645889
uhm overfags...?
I thought... it was over?

>>15645889
>However, confirmation of the microcrystalline structure and verification of superconducting properties are not related.
So it's irrelevant then.

>>15645911
"Looking at the microcrystalline structure, we can estimate the possibility of a substance even if we cannot confirm its properties. When we analyzed the microcrystalline structure of LK-99 by X-ray, we found that the crystal structure of the sample was the same as the crystal structure presented in the paper by Quantum Energy Research Institute."


Until now, researchers in China, India, and elsewhere have claimed to have successfully recreated LK-99, but none of them have been able to confirm the X-ray crystal structure in the paper. This is the first time an outside organization has confirmed the microcrystal structure of an LK-99 sample.

X-ray crystallography is used to view the microcrystalline structure of proteins, new substances, etc. In organic matter, it mainly looks at the molecular level.
The sample created by the Quantum Energy Institute reportedly received a passing grade from the researchers at the Korea Institute of Energy Technology for its purity, uniformity, and reproducibility. This means that the synthesis of the material has reached a stable trajectory.

However, the official said, "Whether it is a superconductor is for the scientific community to determine, and we are only interested in its electrical properties. Now that the material has reached a level worthy of systematic analysis, we plan to make it into a thin film with good applicability and explore the possibility of application in the energy field."

>>15645923
This is the first time an outside organization has confirmed the microcrystal structure of an LK-99 sample.
Isn't that because they recievved a sample of the conductor from the guys who made it? The important part is if it behaves like it's supposed to

>>15645889
>THIS IS MY FINAL COPE
cringe

>>15645889
WE ZIJN TERUG

>overfags still seething about the retard who didn't follow instruction procedures or even confirm he had the proper structure in his replication.

>>15645889
tl;dr backsissies got hit with another debunk?

>>15646022
no it's the opposite
the only people studying the sample have confirmed the crystal structure is the same as the paper

>>15646026
so it's a nothingburger

>>15646022
It’s backbuddies, please educate yourself before embarrassing yourself on the World Wide Web

Backchads... I've been shaking and crying for the past 24 hours. How could we allow overcels to dominate us like this?

Back, at last... a few more days and we'll have hard proof of it.

the Korea Institute of Energy Technology = Korea Electric Power Corporation (public corporation)

>>15645889
So where the fuck is superconductivity? No? Fuck off.

>>15646048
If the technology gets out (like it would seem to have happened) there is not much they can do about it except flooding the internet with over cringe and falsified papers to kill excitement and discourage future attempts. This is whats happening. Don’t let them kill innovation. Keep pushing.

>>15646083
>So where the fuck is superconductivity? No? Fuck off.
hmm move to canada and go through the legal procedure for euthanasia, or just wait you dumb redditor

>>15646029
More like rest assured my investors it does fucking work and we will deliver the product as promised

Also for clueless people there is nothing here, keep moving on.

It is a fucking capitalism world, why do you thing you will have exotic things right after it is discovered/invented? The governments, the militaries, the super elites will always have the first taste. Only after they get bored of it then you will have the leftovers.

>>15646136
that's not entirely true and highly dependant on how difficult and expensive it is to set up and manufacture at scale.

>>15645923
They just aren't interested in whether or not it's a superconductor? Does the Institute of Energy Technology have better things to do?

>>15645909
>>15645889

>>15646136
>Only after they get bored of it then you will have the leftovers.
that only happens if they can physically control the reagents. else RTSC will pop up on all dark markets just like drugs.
considering most of the recipe is known, and the fact that worst case scenario people will fucking mine their own phosphorus I think we all know where this is heading.

>>15645906
t. huang fan

>>15646146
They can tell that it's not, they just choose to not post it but their silence obviously tells everything you need to know.

>>15646146
i think it means they are done testing the chunks and are now going to attempt to isolate the part that is potentially superconducting and test that instead

machine translations are really shitty

>>15646146
Contractually obligated not to talk about superconductivity. Like an nda to get the sample.

>>15646183
Yeah you know you could interpret it is "the definition of superconductor doesn't concern us, we are going to see how useful it is." Which could be good or bad.

Then it's officially over. The only hope was for the structure to be different, as all replications with consistent XRD do not show sc.

>>15646217
it doesn't explain why everyone gets such different results

>>15646082
>Public corporation
>Majority owned by the Korean Government
Ok, overcel

>>15646136
>It is a fucking capitalism world
>The governments, the militaries, the super elites will always have the first taste
You have no concept of what capitalism means retard

>>15646265
public corporation = owned by the State
Yes. What's your point?

>>15646146

When this thing became public one of the superconductor tech stocks in Korea went up 280% in couple of days.
Imagine what happens if the official institute says something about this possibly being legit.
Chances are they've been told to shut the fuck up about any superconductivity until the big boys have loaded up on enough stock, because this is a quick free +10x for anyone in the know investing into these stocks.
Imagine throwing 10 million into one of these and week later walking away with 100 mil and all with zero risk.

>>15646292
A public corporation is one traded in the stock market

>>15646319
Shit yes, you're right. It looks like something different in my language.

>>15646249
Some properties are slightly different depending, but one property is the same in all of them. NO ROOM TEMPERATURE SUPERCONDUCTIVITY. That's all that really matters.

>>15646296
Cryptobros have zero IQ

>>15646322
Easy to get mixed up

We never left

>/biz/raelis coping this much

>>15645889
Dropping OC meme to cut through the bullshit.
Did I miss anything?

>>15646859

>>15645889
>Koreans confirm the Korean research is totally legit just to boost their stocks and that we totally have a working sample
Can we see it?

>>15646876
a sample was sent to MIT

>>15646164
Starting to get Covidian vibes from this whole thing. If they try to give red phosphorus the Ivermectin treatment, we will know.
I bet this stuff can be made from car batteries, copper and diet Coke (for phosphoric acid).

>>15647087
If this whole thing was real as to be able to create ambient temperature superconductors with cheap available common materials there would have been both a preemptive and active efforts through all the media apparatus to curtail and stop public replication from institutions and individuals. The fact the powers that be give absolutely 0 fucks on anyone discussing this freely goes to show you how much of a fiasco this whole thing is

>>15647164
Search the archives for 'its over' starting July 21st (or whenever the arxiv paper gained traction) to see how many results you get and tell me there is no effort to suppress it

>>15647174
No, there is no actual effort to suppress it. A real effort to suppress it would be the news and mainstream media calling the public to trust the experts, avoid discussion and to not attempt replication unless you are an expert for your own safety while labeling anyone discussing it a potential terrorist and threat to national security. What you see is just common 4chan autists picking sides and shitflinging at each other

>>15647164
You're seeing that now, such as with how the flawed ferromagnetism paper has been latched onto

>>15645908
I bellowed in laughter

>>15645923
>Whether it is a superconductor is for the scientific community to determine, and we are only interested in its electrical properties.
How is superconductivity not an electrical property?

>>15646859
>Did I miss anything?
Multi-pole magnets.

>>15646859
need more trollface & more comic sans

>>15646164
>and the fact that worst case scenario people will fucking mine their own phosphorus I think we all know where this is heading.
Time to fire up teh piss boilers.

>>15645905
There are two kinds of people
>those who enjoy sharing the knowledge they’ve accumulated with the world
>those who hate explaining even a minor thing