/sci/ - Science & Math

Two more weeks!

>>15628284
https://twitter.com/gimjiun79102152/status/1687306506965037056
>just give us 6 more months to put it on a multimeter and a magnet
Korea is already trying to save face and wait until everybody forgets.
Ladies, I think we can safely say that it's officially over.

>>15628268
On the 4th, according to Quantum Energy Research Center Inc. and the Korean Institute of Energy Technology (KENTECH), the two institutions agreed to an MOU on May 24th, regarding the development of a thin film vapor deposition application utilizing a room-temperature ambient-pressure superconductor. QERC had introduced multiple corporations, research institutions, and universities as its partners, but amidst controversy as many claimed that they had not entered into partnerships with QERC, KENTECH has been revealed to be the only institution to be in an official partnership with the company.

Park Jin-ho, Vice President of KENTECH, was the one who had presided over the partnership. In a call with Yonhap News today, he said that he had already been provided LK-99 samples, and were in the process of analyzing it using high performance electron microscopes, of which only 3 exist in the world, and that "it's been about a month since we've started analysis". Park explained that he'd first received the partnership request from QERC in 2017, them being introduced to him by Professor Emiretus Oh Geun-ho of Hanyang University, who had participated in the research of LK-99. He said "At first, the material properties itself looked pretty okay, but the replication rate was very low and there were problems with the purity of the samples", and that "when they contacted me again earlier this year, a lot of their problems regarding replication and sample purity had been significantly improved".

Park explained that he was approaching this from the perspective that even if this material is not a room-temperature superconductor, if it possesses properties exceeding that of conventional materials, it could have a degree of application. He said "Electronic semiconductors, power lines, and other such areas of our research benefit greatly from superconductor properties", and that "this is a simple material of which the component elements are not difficult to acquire".

I need more copium

>>15628268
The preprint of last week was caused by justified fear of the world changing tech being scooped by others, and worse, suppressed.

With a six month "it's in our hands now" and it going all the way up to the president saying "lower your expectations disruptive tech makes my handlers mad"

Do NOT pin your hopes on 6th month memory hole group. American labs are likely also compromised. It's time to brute force this stuff in hobbyist garages on the double, /sci/

>>15628268
Will this solve meth problem?

>>15628268
So they had the sample for one month, did nothing, couldn't report nothing. Sounds like the sample wasn't very good if they had nothing good to say about it after having it for so long.

STOP THE COUNT!!

>>15628268
I'm very bitter that I did not discover this world changing material and so therefore I'm going to downplay its importance as much as possible.

>>15628268
It's so over

>>15628436
Sounds like they didn't want anyone to know about it, and now that people do, they want to get ahead of it and make everyone believe it's just a nothingburger

It's honestly amazing the amount of cope I'm seeing here.
A diamagnet would not follow the magnet, the friction of the tiny part that's touching could not possibly account for the pinning effect.
We never even left.

>>15628461
Cope below this reply.

Any other gambling degenerates down to place a bet on it?

>>15628479
This picture is anti-Christian.

>>15628461
>>15628479
It is physically resting on the magnet you fucking retard.

>On August 3 2023, the Korean LK-99 Verification Committee requested a high-quality sample from the original research team. However, the team responded that they would only provide the sample once the review process of their paper, potentially submitted to APL Materials, is completed. This process is expected to take several weeks or months.[30]
Backsisters, our response?

>>15628524
Cope, that tiny piece touching could not possibly stabilize the entire sample and lock it in place.

>>15628533

the guy who made the thread had a good explanation he said that the group needs the sample in head while the peer review takes place so they can rerun tests if the reviewers have an issue with a graph or something

>>15628533
Fake news. Too busy giving real samples to real scientists to the point they can't hand it over to nobodies until after they get their due credit

>>15628545
B-But they are making more copies and sending them out en mass as we speak, right? We're contradicting ourselves backsissies...

>>15628554
>b-b-b-b-b-b-but
Doesn't disprove video evidence of flux pinning.

>>15628524
The argument is it's Meissner effect but the material is too heavy which is why at least one part has to be touching the magnet.
Diamagnetism doesn't act like that.

>>15628479
>muh diamagnetic
>muh no levitation
Diamagnets don't work like this.

https://youtu.be/8JlZdyq8b6Y?t=126
A diamagnetic material could not possibly stay in place and SELF CORRECT to the same position over a single magnetic field. It would slide away or rotate as it bounces.

>>15628554
They did the experiment over a thousand times they said, and they only have 2 samples good enough to show in a video, and they don't even fucking float fully. They don't have shit and they know it.

>>15628588
>they only have one sample!
>...
>they only have two samples!

>>15628594
post proof they have more
fag

>>15628268
>sorry anons, Mr. Kim is taking a 6 month vacation
>verification will continue once he returns

>>15628605
>>15628326
>He said he received LK-99 samples and analyzed them with a high-performance electron microscope that only has three units in the world, adding, "It has been about a month since I started analyzing them."

>>15628268
Oh shit I know what it all means

>America doing ufo hearing
>Reported to be a tictac shaped drone that moved at impossible speeds and trajectories
>America has had superconductors for a while but restricted it to military tech
>Chinese constantly stealing US data
>Steal papers on superconductors, hand it off to Korea because corruption
>Koreans produce it successfully
>Government plans to hide it like all the rest
>Someone with humanity in mind leaks it
We're going to find that the government has had this shit for a while now. Probably from aliens. Their ships are probably made of this shit.

>>15628647
The chinks would never give anything to south koreans lmao

>>15628572
BOTTOM LINE -
If there is any phenomenal aberrant behavior in this material it opens up an entire new area of research. They used cheap elements, but the possibilities of the entire periodic table is glittering

>>15628647
>Steal papers on superconductors, hand it off to Korea because corruption
What? That would never fucking happen

>>15628654
What is corruption. The state wouldn't but Chang looking to make a quick profit would.

>>15628654
They wont give something this big to north korea

>>15628661
He would make more leaking it to his own, you idiot.

Koreanium: never ever

>>15628806
What if it's just small grains of superconductor suspended in bigger diamagnetic sample?
That would explain why levitation effects are so weak and why there are problems with measuring conductivity
Is any of the teams checking for something like this?

>>15629286
Didnt mean to reply

>>15629286
>Is any of the teams checking for something like this?
yes, i'm on it. give me 2 more weeks

>>15628479
what would happen if the base was moved like this and a non-superconductor material was on top of it?

>>15630323
It would fall off.
>>15629178

So now that the floaty spinny rock has been confirmed to follow be pinned by magnets regardless of pole orientation by 2 independent teams from across the world, including tests with the rock physically separated from the magnet to rule out friction, what cope is left for those who say this isn't the Meissner effect?

>>15630381
LK-99 isn't a RTSC superconductor, it's just a monopole.

>>15630381
No 0 resistance or something.
If the ruskis lab actually shows nore proof coming from the sample from the animetard which will be the next cope?

>>15630401
in that case we have to bring forth our strongest weapon: thunderfoot

it is diamagnetism, but that's even better it'll unlock the power of cheap and easy maglev transportation everywhere

>>15630426
it is and I agree with you, diamagnets such as superconductors will be amazing for trains.

>>15630424
I love how thunderf00t makes all the i freaking love basedence redditards seethe

>>15630400
That would be an even bigger discovery desu

>>15630400
>not RTSC
>it's just a monopole.
Wait, do you realise the absurdity of that? It's basically saying 'not fusion, but an artifical singularity reactor'.

>>15630445
why?

>>15630448
Because it's impossible by our current understanding of electromagnetism. It would be like the official discovery of a particle with negative mass.

>>15630448
they literally teach you this in high school physics class retard

>>15630448
because \/ * B = 0

>>15628380
This. Kwon saved the human race.

>>15630445
????

>>15630496
what happened there

>>15630496
Never reproduced.

>>15630523
85 he was just a kid

It's working? https://twitter.com/andrewmccalip/status/1687405505604734978

>>15630400
Monopoles would break physics completely if they exist, that would be the biggest discory in human history

with a physical monopole you can literally levitate for free riding the earth's magnetic field like a surfer. the magnet troll meme would literally come true.

>>15630543
Some are claiming this is just what iron flakes do. His samples are ridiculously small unfortunately. It's clear that the Koreans have withheld some major steps.

>>15630554
Well that's not possible because if it was it would be floating irregardless of having another magnet close by

>It's just a monopole bro

>>15630563
>he doesn't know about the Thanos poop

>>15630572
Ok but explain why that pic WOULDN'T work

>>15630586
In the same way that the car magnet is pulled to the right by the arm magnet, the arm magnet is pulled to the left by the car magnet. (Newton's Third Law)

> with the discovery of a monopole... war... has changed.

>>15630496
>>15630523
Go to magnetic monopoles Wikipedia page
Look for heading "monopoles" in condensed matter systems.
TL;DR it's a quasi-particle. An emergent phenomenon. Not a fundamental particle.

>>15628586
indeed.
there's no local mimimum in the field out of the base magnet they're using
unless some schizos think it's actually several magnets and they're moving with the sample underneath or some shit

>>15630563
>iron flakes
There's no iron in the ingredients, that would mean they achieved alchemy

>>15630586
It's a mutual attraction and the second magnet is attached to the car.

>>15630572
fixed

>>15628443
>I'm very bitter that I did not discover this world changing material and so therefore I'm going to downplay its importance as much as possible.
same >:^(

>>15630544
investing in $LK99 coin as we speak
>captcha

>>15630645
don't super conductors hate magnets. He should be going in reverse

>>15630717
fuck i missed

https://twitter.com/instsondaw/status/1687433935012139008
This is it folks
No more coping

>>15630732
Yeah, I'm thinking we're BACK. WE FUCKING WON BACK BROS.

>>15630732
we're so fucking back

>>15630732
https://twitter.com/instsondaw/status/1687458668814479360

>>15630732
need more confirmation from this one before I can say that we're back

>>15630745
Finally...

bruh

>>15630745
>>15630732
literally who?

>>15630732
Retards. You can see that it's just a regular superconductor when he pokes it.

>>15630732
>>15630745
isn't it sticking in place like that a sign of it not being superconductive? I thought the magnet shouldn't have any influence other than repulsion

>>15630732
temperature or fake

>>15630732
Ok real talk, I'm skeptical because this a new account and apparently there's no institute with that name in Germany

>>15630616
>koreans make alchemy true
>it only produces iron from copper and lead

>New twitter account
>0 google result on this org
>Suspicious device around the magnet
Stinks of fake, it's so fucking over

>>15630732
are they even credible? new account, place named doesn't seem to exist

>>15630732
>>15630745
>>15630759
No fucking way, I don't believe they made a full working pellet in the same time everyone else made shitty 1mm rocks. I'm guessing this one is fake.

>>15630732
Too good to be true. First confirmed scam replication. Probably a false flag by doomsisters

>>15630796
>>15630791
>>15630783
>>15630777
>>15630776


what a bunch of faggot goalpost moving nooticer in this thread and twitter. At some point you have to accept that we now have superconduction

Im just surprised not a single barrista
stated that this was ""unfortunately probably just a diamagnet""

>>15630796
Yeah it looks too good and the account is from this month. He needs to post more info about himself and how he made it.

>>15630563
>Some are claiming this is just what iron flakes do
Ok good for them. It's not tho, plus it's not made of iron

>>15630732
>>15630745
>a big ass 3d-printed contraption just to hold a magnet
yeah nah

>>15630745
>>15630759
webm

>>15630841
>Spinning around

F L U X P I N N I N G

literally not a superconductor.

>>15630811
I'm fine with the other floating rocks, they all look similar, have similar looking levitation over simple magnet setups and were relatively well documented in their creation and team credentials. This one looks completely different, appears more refined, no creation documentation and made by a literal who on a 3D printed setup. Too many differences for it to be legit unless it's a different process altogether that is riding the hype wave.

>>15630732
>New account
>Only one post
>Institute that doesn't even exist
You're becoming pathetic

>>15630859
Rtsc isn't real so the only place that can research them also has to be not real in order to make them real

Its over

> Rtsc isn't real so the only place that can research them also has to be not real in order to make them real

>>15630732
Its an electromagnet underneath you idiots;
Maglevs can float just fine, once you inject active power, anything can float, including a drone/airplane/jetback. Not impressive.

Unless they can make it float with the magnet on their hands, its a pure fake.

>>15630851
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSojjjvRCR0#t=4m27s

>>15628647
Dumb nigger

>>15630851
it doesn't spin here
https://twitter.com/instsondaw/status/1687433935012139008

The rtap superconductor wars are over but the antigravity war is just beginning...

>>15630895
Are people really falling for this fake as fuck shit?
>Account made in August 2023
>Some no name "private group"
>Clean footage of a perfect material levitating
This stinks so bad of a fake that it's covering up the scent of the French next door.

>>15630859

I know you're convinced that you're just displaying reasonable scepticism but reasonable scepticism as been assfucked all week. This is nothing like tajpajeetquantum and everything like the russian tranny.

So how about you stop being a fucking faggot and risk being disapointed once in your life?

>>15630992
bro it's okay just take the magnet out of the plastic and take a photo of your lab and everything will be fine. maybe a little info on your process so we can understand how you made such a nice sample. no need to be upset you just provided the least evidence and the most impressive result, it's a standard combination for inducing doubt.

lmao

>>15630992
the magnet is sleeved in a giant 3d printed housing anon...

>>15631017
Flying carts in the middle ages was a possibility, thanks at alchemy

>>15631017

That solution was suggested here.
I wouldn't be surprised if that method was actually a legit way of doing it, but this account is dogshit until he takes the magnet out of that contraption and publishes some data about the process.

>>15631033

What's even crazier is that superconductors are probably fairly plentiful in nature if the materials needed are that simple.
I bet they'll start discovering them all over the place if this thing turns out to be real.

>>15631017
so they baked the crystals, pulverized the result, tested the powder for SC properties, then took the most promising clumps and pressed it together into a puck?

>>15631017
>"May we see it?"
>"...no"

>>15630953
This is all I care about. Fuck fusion, fuck more efficient power lines, fuck quantum computers. I want this troll science to be real so I can get that hover bike.

> i'm outta here

>>15631054
kek

even the poles managed to do it...
backbros, it's never over now...

>>15631058
As I recall the magnet is also pushed on due to newtons third law

>>15631066
How do we deal with the tilt?

>>15631053
Yes.

Basement temperature turbo contuctor.

>>15631066
O KURWA!

>>15631084
Basement-temperature
Ambient-pressure
Superconducting
Electromagnetic
Diffusion

or how I like to call it: B.A.S.E.D.

>>15631066
>lied about methods on an academic paper
are you even allowed to do that? what's the point of an academic paper if you're going to lie about the method to keep it a secret? just don't fucking make a paper. I think this lends even more credence to the theory that governmental powers were looking to keep this quiet, but a few of the researchers rushed to make it public knowledge.

fucking hell bros it's real isn't it
we're backer than back

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polaron
A polaron is a quasiparticle used in condensed matter physics to understand the interactions between electrons and atoms in a solid material. The polaron concept was proposed by Lev Landau in 1933[1] and Solomon Pekar in 1946[2] to describe an electron moving in a dielectric crystal where the atoms displace from their equilibrium positions to effectively screen the charge of an electron, known as a phonon cloud. This lowers the electron mobility and increases the electron's effective mass.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Fr%C3%B6hlich
http://www.w2agz.com/Library/Classic%20Papers%20in%20Superconductivity/Froehlich,%20PR%2079,%20845%20(1950).pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolay_Bogolyubov

On a new method in the theory of superconductivity, 1958.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogoliubov_transformation

https://arxiv.org/abs/2308.01135
Two recent preprints in physics archive (arXiv) have called the attention as they claim experimental evidence that a Cu-substituted apatite material (called LK-99) exhibits superconductivity at room temperature and pressure. If this proves to be true, LK-99 will be the holy grail of superconductors. In this work, we used Density-Functional Theory calculations to elucidate some key features of the electronic structure of LK-99. Although some aspects of our calculations are preliminary, we found that: i) in the ground state of the material the ferromagnetic and antiferromagnetic configurations are practically degenerated, ii) the material is metallic, iii) the Cu atoms seem to be hosts in the lattice with not covalent bonds to other atoms and supporting almost flat bands around the Fermi level, and iv) the electron-phonon coupling of these flat bands seems to be dramatically large.

>the electron-phonon coupling of these flat bands seems to be dramatically large.

>>15631066
Ściemniają means to darken but in this context it means they obfuscate stuff, and they didn't disclose the real procedure. Chinese had similar impression.

>>15631115
I guess if you sat on the holy grail of materials science, being extremely fearful of the research being stolen would be a huge deal

>>15631124
I've seen enough people get fucked over to tell you that if it was me, I'd need the payment in gold fucking bars delivered to me before you are getting shit

>>15631114
>the electron-phonon coupling of these flat bands seems to be dramatically large.
>What properties could a solid material have if it is the case?

Electron-phonon coupling refers to the interaction between the lattice vibrations (phonons) and electrons in a material. This interaction plays a crucial role in various physical phenomena, and if the electron-phonon coupling in certain flat bands is large, it could lead to a number of interesting properties:

Superconductivity: The most well-known effect of strong electron-phonon coupling is superconductivity. The BCS theory (Bardeen-Cooper-Schrieffer theory) of superconductivity suggests that a large electron-phonon coupling could facilitate the formation of Cooper pairs – pairs of electrons with opposite momentum and spin that move coherently and enable superconductivity.

Enhanced Thermoelectric Efficiency: Strong electron-phonon coupling could lead to enhanced thermoelectric efficiency, as it can promote phonon scattering, thereby reducing the lattice thermal conductivity. This is beneficial for thermoelectric materials, as they seek to maximize electrical conductivity while minimizing thermal conductivity.

Polaronic Effects: A strong electron-phonon coupling might result in the formation of polarons, quasiparticles formed by an electron and its associated polarization field. Polarons can significantly affect the electrical and optical properties of a material.

Charge Density Waves: Materials with strong electron-phonon coupling can also exhibit charge density waves (CDW), periodic modulations of the electron density in the solid, leading to insulating behavior and a variety of other electronic properties.

Phononic Devices: With a strong coupling, it might be possible to control the flow of phonons in a material, opening the possibility for phononic devices.

>>15631144
Thanks chatgpt. Anyway backbros, do we have a response to that picture? I'm not feeling so good...

>>15628497
I've been betting on on Kalshi. The return if it resolves NO is about 33% but I'm not gonna wait a year and a half to get the full payout.

>>15631075
here's my proposal

>>15631114
More gpt expert opinions.

>>15630732
>Yes, exactly. We made it from powder, sorting it by meissner effect size, then pressing in a small anvil.

Someone literally suggested this the other day and /sci/ shouted them down, kek

>>15631162
kek

>>15631111
It's not that uncommon for methods on academic papers to be somewhat sparse on detail, especially for finnicky procedures. The infamous "X method was done as described in Y paper", which also says the same thing for multiple papers in a row until you find something from 1972 which has no relevance to what you're doing today. Outright lying is probably overstating it, but it wouldn't surprise me that much if they had a more refined method compared to the basic one that was put out there. It's a bit different here since this is such a big find if real that they're not going to have career issues for the rest of their lives, but there is definitely a level of sandbagging that goes on in academia where people sit on results until they can publish it for the most impact.

>>15631114

>>15631144
>Superconductivity: The most well-known effect of strong electron-phonon coupling is superconductivity. The BCS theory (Bardeen-Cooper-Schrieffer theory) of superconductivity suggests that a large electron-phonon coupling could facilitate the formation of Cooper pairs – pairs of electrons with opposite momentum and spin that move coherently and enable superconductivity.
The whole Nikolay Bogolyubov theory is you don't need Cooper Pairs for Superconductor but Electron - Phonon interactions on lattice.

>>15631172
I think if that is true it may demostrate that one of main hypotesis for how it works its wrong

>>15628647
You should not be allowed on /sci/ if your model of the world is so bad you think aliens are more likely than government stupidity.

>>15631182
Source
On a new method in the theory of superconductivity, 1958.

>>15631066

Everyone gets that same weird half lift with this stuff, just cut the fucker in half and see what it does.

And I think it's less of intentional obfuscation and more about them just getting it accidentally somewhat right, but not knowing exactly how.
I also believe that the guy went rogue and published the paper prematurely, because he had a feeling the Korean institute was going to keep this under the lid and he might have been fucked out of any credit, which is extremely likely in the case of any breed of slants.
They're glory hounds by nature and will stab each other in the back mercilessly to steal credit.

So now it's up for everyone else to figure this out, but by doing so the original patent means fuckall because the composition and manufacturing techniques will be too different from the original.
The scientist might have fucked Korea entirely out of making a cent from this by releasing the info to the public to play with.
Instead some garage guy is going to figure it out, sell the technique to Raytheon for a million and we all pay the burgers forever for the miracle tech.

>>15630745
>>15630732
Who the fuck are these guys? This tweet is literally the only reference to this organization in the world.

>>15631195
>Everyone gets that same weird half lift with this stuff,
Yeah this worries me a lot. My guess is if you cut it in half you would still get the half lift. There is no way noone has tried this out of like the 10 replication so far.

>>15630776
You're correct, Meissner effect would not result in the magnet returning to position.

>>15631203
the real question is:
do you wanna lose money on this?

>>15631195
>>15631209
It's trying to turn with the field lines but can't because it's too long relative to the repulsion and gets stuck like a long stick in a creek. Diamagnetism.

Apparently a sulfur impurity is absolutely key to creating superconducting LK99

>>15631228
GOOOOOOKS!!!

>>15631228
> copper
> lead
> sulfur
> phosphorus
i TOLD you bro

>>15631228
Two forms of Cu2S are known. The so-called low temperature monoclinic form ("low-chalcocite") has a complex structure with 96 copper atoms in the unit cell.[7] The hexagonal form, stable above 104 °C,[8] has 24 crystallographically distinct Cu atoms. Its structure has been described as approximating to a hexagonal close packed array of sulfur atoms with Cu atoms in planar 3 coordination. This structure was initially assigned an orthorhombic cell due to the twinning of the sample crystal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copper(I)_sulfide

Top 15 scientific hoaxes

Number 15: LK-99

>>15631228
>Poisonous and stinky
Futurebros it's gonna be terrible

>>15631250
cope overcel

>>15631250
Number 1: Cold Fusion
...

Haven't been here since Monday or Tuesday, current status?

>>15631243
>tfw I went to university instead of mixing powders in my garage based on astronomical associations and medieval elemental theory
alchemist bros… won…

>>15631268
we are backer than back

>>15631243
Someone needs to replace the phosphorus with mercury. I have a good feeling about it.

>>15631268
Some people posted more videos of floaty rocks and so "we're back" even though nobody has demonstrated proper Meissner effect and nobody has detected lower resistance than normal lead. It's a diamagnetic.

>>15631243
It's just not fucking fair.

>>15631268
We are just starting to get a number of seemingly successful replications (4 now I think?). Not that it means anything until a resistance test is make public.

>>15631268
people are coping with a floating rock by saying it diamagnetism, even though no diamagnetic material exhibits the same behavior

>>15631268
People keep reinventing magnets (which already exist)
Absolutely 0 evidence of 0 resistance

>>15631279
>le floaty rock is successful
Even the original video did not show Meissner effect

>>15631277
>i-it's a scam!
>i-it's a ferromagnetic!
you are here
>i-it's a diamagnetic!
>i-it's not actually room temperature!
>i-it's a ceramic!

>>15631285
But this is exactly how they behave, settling at specific points, conforming to field lines. A proper super conductor would not snap back to its original location when moved perpendicular to a magnet.

>>15631298
I'm exactly where I am last week. It's a diamagnet. It has higher resistivity than lead even at cryogenic temperatures. I don't think the gooks are lying and I never did. But they are wrong.

>>15631310
sounds like a midwit trying to make their "cautious skepticism" sound intelligent

chinks paper+video

https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2308/2308.01516.pdf

【LK-99验证】 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV14p4y1V7kS/?share_source=copy_web

【补充视频】 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV13k4y1G7i1/?share_source=copy_web

>>15631215
it would if the material is riddled with impurities letting the magnetic field penetrate it

even if it would be much less useful from a practical standpoint, it only being a diamagnet would still be really exciting considering the sheer strength of the interaction completely flies in the face of established theory.
That's the trick to coming out on top no matter the outcome

>>15631298

>>15631209

Yeah could be that the samples will all show the same effect regardless of the physical size.
It probably has multiple different kinds of superconducting and magnetic properties in one and that fucks things up completely.
Only way to do this would be to measure different parts of it carefully and chip out the most superconducting stuff and garage replications can't do this.

I wonder if it would work to blast it with a hot air gun to see if it loses the superconducting properties at higher temps.
Then again if there's diamagnetism at play in the sample along with superconducting, it probably wouldn't explain shit and they have to measure the resistance to know anything conclusive.

>>15631322
Such a strong und USEFUL diamagnet for practical application that it cant even lift itself on a strong permanent magnet. LOL

>>15631311
You sound like a delusional cryptobro with no argument.

>>15631316
If it was riddled with impurities it would not float at all.

>>15631340
good thing that I didn't make any claims to the effect that it would be particularly useful and in fact openly stated the opposite

Reminder that if this is diamagnetic, it is still the weirdest diamagnetic material we have ever seen.

Why have white people fallen behind in innovation?

Is it because of leftism destroying merit?

>>15631352
All superconductors are Diamagnetics, but this will be the strongest Diamagnetic non-superconductor by far.

>>15631355
It's because unlike chinks and gooks and russians, they aren't willing to gamble their reputations by just fucking lying about their findings.

>>15631355
Have you seen white colleges? Gender theory is the best thing you can get from wh*tes anymore.

>>15631347
yes it would. you just need a sufficient number of pockets of superconductive material to levitate...

>>15631342
it's sad that some people got so buck broken by missing out on the crypto train they hate any idea of technological progress

>>15631334

>Mfw this tech should have existed since the fucking 80s

We should have been living in the Blade Runner future by now.
Movie timelines were the ones we were meant to have.

>>15631355
100% leftism. You can’t even bring up that black people are dumb as fuck. You can’t say that men can’t get pregnant. Or there are only two sexes. They HATE truth and honesty.

>>15631366
The blade runner future is shit though

>>15631366
but the Blade Runner future is absolutely awful

>>15631366
Imagine where we'd be now if slavs didn't exist

In a hundred years the invention of the internet will be attributed to some pajeet or chang. Same with the automobile and vaccines and the internal combustion engine.

>>15631375
So is our present

>>15628268
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPxbVAdags0

>>15631374
>>15631375


True, but at least it looks cool.
I mean we're basically in that corporate ran future now, but we don't have flying cars or constant rain and neon lit noodle shops.
Instead we have a total clown world and kebab shops.
Could have at least nailed the aesthetics along with the cool tech.

>>15631355
Isn’t Switzerland still the most innovative country on Earth?

>>15631366
Yeah man imagine what we could have done with a material that conducts worse than lead until the boiling point of water and then conducts even worse

>>15631361
But replication efforts are failing
So who’s lying?

>>15631394
Get over it. You lost.

>>15631391
This country sucks

why do you guys feel the need to pick a 'side' and defend it, even when it makes absolutely no sense? do you all have brain damage?

>Korean

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAGAGAHAHAHFHTHNDHRHD

JAPAN BTFO

Remember when Japan was a capital for science and tech? Lmfao. Japan is declining.

>>15631268
See>>15631228 aparently the amateurs have more success to reproduce the material than the labs. Looks like is bc a common sulfur impurity on the phospor precursor is needed to get the material

>>15631406
>Remember when Japan was a capital for science and tech?
Never?

>>15631403
Global Innovation Index says Switzerland is consistently the no.1 innovative nation on the globe, for like an entire decade.

>>15631406
Kimchi chaebol slave detected. Japan is still cooler.

>>15631399
No I didn't. You're a fucking retard. Show resistance below lead or kill yoursrlf.

>>15631415
Someone's mad.

>>15631409
for tech they definitely were in the 80s
for science not really a 'capital' but they show up pretty often

>>15631411
and what did they invent?

>>15631406
>>15631409
It's been that way since Japan's 90s recession where have you been

>>15631421
Dunno I’m just parroting

>>15631418
Yes, I am fucking mad that people keep calling a material that conducts worse than normal metal a super conductor

>>15631415
get therapy doomer faggot

Didn’t some Pajeet also claim to discover this like a month or three ago?

>>15631428
Not an argument.

>>15631425
Where the fuck is South Korea? Racist and biased piece of shit index.

>>15631436
lol sub100 IQ detected

>>15628588
They said its more like a 1 in 10 chance of producing a good sample now

>>15631436
#6 on the right side
>it's another "/sci/ can't read" episode

Novel ferromagnet confirmed

Back to over status?

>>15631425
Some indexes places S. Korea above Switzerland, though. Switzerland isn’t even in the top 5 in some.

>>15631355
>>15631372
>Nooo western academia is ruined by leftist politics!!1
Then explain China. The power of their political propaganda on academia is undoubtedly way more serious than that of the West. They are an actual authoritarian state instead of culture war memes.

>>15631466
China is a national socialist country

>>15631466
Authoritarian regimes have always fostered hard scientific study. Look at to e Nazis. They aren’t conditioned to think like a retarded American. America is so bored with itself it has to complicate the simplest of concepts like male and female or if men can get pregnant. America is a bastion of stupidity. Isn’t it hilarious how a nation known for killing all of its sparrows is now brighter than the supposedly “good” side?

>korean (american colony) discovery
>chinks immediately try to make it about them

Can someone explain to me why anybody is hyped about this? The original paper had 0 proof of superconductivity (the resistance dropped but still higher than copper). The only "supporting evidence" we have so far is unusual magnetic properties that was replicated by independent groups. Now I understand if people were excited to learn about this unusual property but we already know its not a superconductor so why do people still call it so?

>>15631485
there's an argument to be made that it could be refined into something that actually is a superconductor, and theoretically speaking our best chance of finding one is to look for something adjacent to it
the magnetic properties are really, really difficult to explain if it's not a superconductor, to the point that some have posited that the "pure" stuff being one is more likely

>>15631485
That are only displayed by superconductors.

It's over

>Q. Why doesn't LK-99 completely levitate in the video?

>(Prof. Kim) : Well it should, but it didn't fully levitate. You see its one dimensional, that is to say if I draw it on a plane it's a line. If that one dimension becomes a metal, then what's the stuff surrounding it? Its non-metal. So when you measure it the two show up together, so we can't make a very homogenous sample. That's why it's at an angle, that is my view. So I'm sure if we develop this tech more we can get it to levitate more, but I don't think it will get as good as 2 dimension or 3 dimensional superconductors. That said, surely, we can mechanically shave away at the 1 dimensional line and cut only that part out, right? If so then we can use that. That's what I think needs more technological research. So that's the direction that I think a lot of development should be done. We're just at the beginning, surely?

Nevermind, we're back
>>15631491

> doomposters have to fire the last desperate volley
i will NEVER be a depressed sissy, no thanks

>>15631483
Chinks are terrified of being perceived as no.2 due to their heritage/history of being dominant for so long. The century of humiliation fucked over their psyches forever. Xi Jinping is one of those types who seriously believes he’s in the wrong timeline, and that China was never supposed to decline behind western powers. As long as the chink is around there will always be a struggle or tug of war for power. Japan wanted to show the world they were equal to white colonial powers when they adopted wester customs and attire. It was kind of sad/cute. Western influence really destroyed cultural self esteem everywhere. EVERYONE is wearing the western business suit and building western minimalist skyscrapers.

>>15631228
>The alchemy needs brimstone to work
B-Bros?

>>15631485
it's either a superconductor, or a new type of magnetic phenomenon that hasn't been seen before

admit it overfags, you kinda want to be back, deep down.

it's so over, it's not even funny

>>15631491
>the magnetic properties are really, really difficult to explain if it's not a superconductor,
It's typical diamagnetism

>>15631521
except for the part where it's obscenely strong. like, stronger than should be possible, several times over

please, I need this for my AI waifu

>>15631521
Just 5,000 times stronger than pyrolytic graphite and self aligning.
Just normal diamagnet things.

I don’t understand shit about science but I know one thing, we are so back
Captcha: tvBAKp

>>15631524
Women won’t let you have that

>>15630732
>>15630745

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLIIYtnDups

Retarded faggots

>>15630732
What's preventing some rando from claiming a video of a YBCO pellet is LK-99?

I want to believe it's real because RTSC + full-dive VR is technology that I want to exist.

>>15631538
Pretty hard to do without the condensed vapor and ice giving it away.

>>15631536
this. stop getting distracted by le diy bullshit. also start asking for magnet paper views, else you'll get constantly duped

>>15631523
It's not stronger than bismuth

We used graphite for this batch and looks promising, can't wait to receive a Dirac medal for this work

Remember that a lot of people are down a lot on prediction markets and they have huge motivation to make a viral fake news.

>>15631558
>can't even do the same thing as in the video

>>15631558
your rock has autism

>>15631408
Amateur are openly talking about it on twitter. Proper labs are scrambling and preparing papers to Nature and waiting half a year for peer review.

>>15631556
show me your chunk of bismuth that interacts with a magnetic field more strongly than this shit does

>>15631556
>bismuth
wow such power https://youtu.be/Hj3Ta7DH9DI?t=104

>>15631549
Not if you drop the ambient humidity to near zero. I'm thinking it's real, but some random person with no history suddenly claiming to have the best sample of a potentially world-changing material warrants skepticism and caution.

>>15631556
>arguing by making shit up
based

>>15631189
its over Mick, they're real

i just want something to happen, anything, I don't want to believe that it was all pointless, everything that lead me here

>>15631527

>>15631260
>Cold Fusion
that's real too, skeplet

someone jumped the gun editing wikipedia again

>>15631509
or instrument error

>>15631574
>the most diamagnetic element
>only that strong
Wait, people are trying to argue that LK-99 is this shit? If so it must be a fucking strong diamagnetic then if the strongest currently known diamagnetic material is only that strong.

>>15631598
unlikely, given that everyone who's done it (with the sulfur impurity, at least) is observing similar strength

>>15631505

Xi is a puppet with no say. China is ruled by 7 aristocratic families.

>>15631596
kek, I would leave it like that

>>15631589
>lead
kek

>>15631444
The Chinese lab did an attraction test on their sample and the flake didn't move, it's not ferromagnetic.

>>15631568
That was not my point, my point is that if you just follow the original paper using lab grade precursos you may not get the effect of the koreans if they used a lower grade phosporous, with sulfur impurities

Has it been confirmed YET? I thought we were all supposed to know if it was bullshit or not by fucking Monday.

>>15631634
What we do know is that LK-99 is the strangest material we have had recently. Literally no material is like this.

>>15631634
you answered your own question right there buddy

labs (and there will be many who tried this without going on fucking twitter about it) aren't shouting it from the rooftops because it doesn't work. It's over.

>>15631640
so it could be uniquely useless?

>>15631648
Name a single stable, useless chemical or compound
Not counting your genes

>>15631066
Kurwa ja pirdole

>>15631444
Doesn't he have his own sample now? If it's ferro it would attract and stick to his magnet

I think we'll need higher density/discharge batteries and way more efficient trannies.

>>15631658
>Name a single stable, useless chemical or compound
>Not counting your genes
Best laught in days

>>15631277
Hell yeah, those stupid gooks need to hook a car battery with some jumper cables up to one, it’ll blow their scam right out of the water!
Did I get your thought process right ?

>>15631745
It's not a scam, they just jumped the gun. Multiple labs have measured the resistivity of LK99 and while a discontinuity in resistance vs temperature has been replicated, in not one study has LK99 been shown to have lower resistance than lead at any temperature. This could be an instrumentation problem. But if you get a reading of 10^-6 ohm M, that's not evidence of super conductivity, regardless of whether the material is actually that resistance or whether that's the noise floor of your set up.

>>15631365
>missing out on the crypto train
None of the crypto apologists ever got rich from it, that's the entire reason they're selling "tips" and "lessons on how to get rich with cryptocurrency" and why they base their decision making on how bright the sun currently is outside of their caves.

>>15630851
>>15630962
either it is legit or fake
check >>15630878

>>15631521
>>15631527
>>15631594
Retard

>>15630851
That's because the string it's on is twisting and it's a fake. The tilting ones are real

>>15628268
N

>>15630953
how exactly is this allowing the ring to levitate? The whole assembly will still just fall down without something to push off of to keep aloft.

Over status?

>>15631862
Over is so fucking over.

>>15631862
Hasn't even started.

>>15631851

Starting to seem like it doesn't matter whether it's a RTSC, because this thing has magnetic properties so far above anything currently out there, that it's a revolutionary material by default and will change things radically.
Can't wait for people to crack the code with this, just switch around some elements and figure out what really makes it tick and we'll have something incredible.

>>15631862
owri da...

>>15631862
We are back, over

>>15631862
It's so fucking over

>>15631851
why not just test its fucking resistance

>>15631243
i need a chemical sample of the Egyptian pyramid stones NOW

over status?

>>15631917
They did.
They made a thin film that showed 0 resistance.
All this over posting back and forth could've been avoided if you had just believed in your old gramps.

if it was a superconductor, we'd know more by now.

>>15631932

https://ezdubs-vod-api.com/result/1687352753155457024_ko_en
https://ezdubs-vod-api.com/result/1687352753155457024_ko_en
https://ezdubs-vod-api.com/result/1687352753155457024_ko_en

>>15631243
The Chinese labs have computationally predicted better properties if the copper was replaced with GOLD

Alchemybros... We're so back

>>15631896
Come again. We are back? Over

>>15631273
Nah, phosphorus is still fitting considering it was discovered via alchemy.
Throw this shit into a bath of mercury and see what happens.

there is no rational reason to be a backcel

>>15631932
They did not. There is a paper saying it showed zero resistance but the actual fucking graph shows 10^-6 Ohm M resistance, which is higher than fucking lead. Having a discontinuity in resistance vs temperature is NOT a super conductor, it is just one thing that super conductors have. The most important feature is that, below the critical temperature, it has extremely low resistance, way below regular metal. And nobody has demonstrated that. In fact nobody has demonstrated that LK99 is less resistant than lead under any condition, even cryogenic conditions.

>>15631962

>>15631957
Explain this >>15629178

NONE OF THE VIDEOS OF LK-99 HAVE EVER DEFINTIVELY SHOWN THE MAGNET FLIPPING WAKE UP AND REALIZE ITS OVERRRR!!!!!!

>>15631917

But that would put a stop to the anticipation and our two more weeks would end.

>>15631942
>It's already poisonous and smelly
>Let's make it expensive too
No.

>>15631425
What does Switzerland even invent? Cutting Edge financial instruments?

>>15631976
The Chinese flake video did.
It's over, overbro. Sell your over while you can.

>>15631942

This would make the price of gold do 1000x at minimum.
It would become the world's most sought after industrial metal overnight.
I need to buy an ounce if it starts looking like it's the real deal and gold is the super ingredient to make it work.

>>15631970
It never began. The problems I'm talking about were evident from even the pre-prints, which also showed resistivity above lead. Even the video of the "meissner effect" shows the material flipping around the field lines which it's not supposed to do.

>>15631340
>this unrefined thing that was just discovered a week ago is totally useless
Have you ever stopped to listen to your own words?

>>15631994
Who would've predicted a 21st century gold rush?

Although I think a safer bet would be to just invest in heavy metal mining companies rather than specific metals. It might turn out that it works better with some other combo of materials once the effect is better understood*

*If it turns out to be real, that is

that's what you get from trusting the unknowable oriental mind.

Shit like this is why I don't even bother reading the title when there's no western name listed

>>15632018
Didn't you read the studies retard? The dopes copper has to be placed perfectly in the hardest to reach spots. In other words it will never be practical to manufacture. This is already evidenced by even the main guys having 1 shitty barely functioning chip the size of half a dime after 1000 synthesis attempts.

>>15631404
I tried arguing that point yesterday and at least one guy started frothing out of his front-hole

>>15632019

There's probably countless of answers in fine tuning it even within it's own existing recipe.
I hope gold isn't the real answer because the amount of it is very limited and it would seriously gimp the manufacturing and make it unnecessarily expensive.
If gold suddenly becomes the integral part of building the holy grail of electronics, it's is going off the charts by real demand instead of just being an old meme metal with some use in electronics.

>>15632031
Have you seen how elaborate the way to make modern transistors is? If you can make a superconductor out of this you can bet your ass someone will find a way to mass produce these.

so since it's officially over and this has proven to be a nothingburger, what do we do now?

>>15632097
Spend the next 6 weeks pretending that it's totally real and only a matter of time before we're fucking counselor troy on the holodeck of the USS Astroballs until we get board and start shitposting about something else

>>15632097
Overchads will continue to shit on backcucks, life will continue as usual.

>>15631994
There is an asteroid full of gold not far from Earth

>>15632031
>it will never be practical to manufacture.
>f-fine, it's real, but it will never be easy to manufacture!
I think someone listed this as number 7 on the over-twink cope-list earlier in the thread

>>15632127
They will continue to cope untill they get run over by the maglev train they refuse to believe is real

aren't you guys tired of being wrong all the time

>>15632127
>f-fine, it's real,
It's not real though. It's a heat induced insulator, not a superconductor

>>15632141
yeah, a little bit

>>15632142
So you think the guys that developed this for years don't know the difference between a super-conductor and an insulator?
How hard did you have to work to be this retarded?

>>15632159
>So you think the guys that developed this for years don't know the difference between a super-conductor and an insulator?
No I don't think it, I know it, because I read their fucking paper. Their material conducts moderately worse than lead below the critical temperature and then much worse than lead above it.

>>15632172
>this one guy who literally cannot stop talking about the condoooooctivity and responds to every post talking about it

don't you get bored? what's your payoff here?

>>15632179
What's your end goal in shitposting about a "superconductor" that isn't even an okayishconductor?

>>15630895
>>15631017
Based Agarthan lab emerging to outer Earth to flex on the untermenschen.

>>15630811
>>15630732
>>15630745
That is simply not LK-99, I'm a believer but:
1. that's not how LK-99 has been acting at all.
2. That's not how meissner effect works, the only thing similar is that it's "levitating" but everything else is different.
3. that's a fake account of a non existing institute.

>>15631505
I wish we had helped Japan finish the job. If our leaders were more prescient they could have helped Japan retain their culture while adopting more important Western values. It will never not crack me up how much effort they put into destroying their history and culture as a feudal, loosely centralized monarchy island nation with a noble warrior class that romanticized exquisite steel swordsmanship and built castles to appear more Western. If anything, a cultural expo of that history in the US could have resolved the racism and got them labeled as lost Europeans.

>>15632251
This. Everything about that account and "sample" says bullshit

>>15632251
can you stop talking about it. its a joke/spam. anyone who speaks german realizes it right away

>>15631994
BUY BUY BUY

>>15632124
how weirdly convenient

brainlet here, tell me if I got this straight. so for flux pinning wouldn't they have to heat up the sample past Tc, place it on the magnet, then wait for it to cool down so it starts doing the levitating stuff? I saw some dudes playing with a regular superconductor and if they just took the magnet to the superconductor it would exhibit diamagnetism, wouldn't lock.
but if they heated the superconductor, then brought in the magnet and the cool it down, it would then do the meissner effect magic thingie.
so shouldn't LK-99 be heated before placed on the magnet, for demos? else it would behave like a diamagnet?

>>15631598
>visual instrument error
>thousands of eyes seeing shit happening means the thousands of eyes are actually defective

it's diamagnet

>>15632870
>10 years have passed since the discovery of LK99
>the kids are playing on their hoverboards in the local hoverboard park
>one man sits alone, clutching his knees and rocking back and forth
>"just a diamagnet... just a very strong diamagnet... it's over... it's over...", he mutters to himself

>>15632897
All superconductors are diamagnetic, retard

>>15631366
hurts my soul

>not a scam
https://twitter.com/TajQuantum/status/1686360842877419520

we are so back

>>15634213
>two more decades

>>15634213
>those comments
twatters are so mindbroken over losing their life savings on shitcoins huh