/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15618743
What's up with so many male nurses these days? I'm expecting new hire to be cute young lovable stacy, but then they turn out to be some 6 ft gorilla looking dude. I hate it.

>>15618755
HR received too many complaints so now it's policy for hot nurses to be assigned to women or hot guys. Sorry if you're an incel patient, you get the murse.

>>15618755
males cant get into medschool as easily due to diversity/female quotas, so now they do nursing school and become traveling nurses for good $$$.

big pharma is corrupt

>>15618808
>males cant get into medschool as easily due to diversity/female quotas, so now they do nursing school and become traveling nurses for good $$$.
Skill issue. Even with occurring, men should be so skilled that it doesn't matter and they get accepted anyways.

>>15618755
Male Nurses are always sociopaths.

Anyway, I am a dentist and I wanted to come bitch about nurses. One was pre-opposing my wife for a routine surgery and giving all these answers to my questions which I was skeptical of.

Doctor comes in and gives me real answers a little later.

Are nurses supposed to pre op patients? She was literally hoping we would ask questions so she could answer but they were all not correct answers. Is this like just her wanting to feel in charge or is it something they are told to do?

>>15618905
Obviously, but they make money so invest

>>15618743
>nurse recently did a TAVI in the UK
https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/993871
Unions were a mistake

>>15619995
Nurses are all under the curse of Eve

>>15618743
My bones are imploding and codeine can't fully supress it

Want to be a heart surgeon. Gonna be replacing valves and transplanting hearts. Will I be able to do actual scientific work or am I just going to be a trained monkey who does the same thing over and over?

>>15620705
Just become a nurse >>15620577

>>15618755
>>15618766
I recently had a surgery and there was this really cute 10/10 qtpie Asian nurse that was there with me entire time. We were talking a lot post-surgery and I lowkey felt like she was flirting a bit. Complimenting left and right, laughing a lot etc. And I was partially still under anesthetic influence so I was going at it as well (Which I wouldn't while not under influence because Autism). Hand fed me food when I could have eaten it myself (It was a minor surgery, I was fine to eat). She was quite touchy, and being very nice. Then when I got up she again complimented my tall stature and large physique, walked me to where I was going, and on the discharge documents attached a post-it saying "Hope you feel better soon <3" I had a boner the entire time even though I just had surgery ngl.

Now, yes, I am very affection starved so you don't need to say it. But was she into me or are all nurses just this nice. I had quite an ego boost from that after, but thought it might just be general demeanor post-surgery for nurses, since I haven't had a surgery before. But nurses outside of that haven't really been as nice. Nice, but not to this degree.

So was it real? Or am I deluded?

>>15620705
Monkey if you like money.

If $30k a year and ‘fame’ and ‘respect’ sound better to you then research

>>15621106
You’re a moron. She’s that way with everyone because she gets more pay if she gets good reviews.

>>15619995
>Obviously
in my experience it's not that obvious among doctors

>>15619995
>obviously pharma is corrupt
in my experience it's not that obvious to most doctors

>>15621161
"fame" in your particular sub-specialty niche community aka ur maybe a known name to about 4000 people

medicine rat race might be the worst of all cuz there is not even a financial payout for doing it. just circle jerking at an academic hospital for 300k a year while a dentist is putting braces on kids or a derm is cutting cysts out and both making twice as much as you, just lmao

>>15621161
I'm currently studying math, physics and chemistry from the ground up to better understand how the circulatory system functions. Can I perhaps make certain heart related inventions in the future? Or is that reserved only for biomedical engineers? I'm asking this because medmonkeys are only taught surface level shit like anatomy and very little biochem and physiology so my opinion probably won't even be respected

>>15621106
>10/10 qtpie Asian nurse
Why did you even bother to mention the race?

>>15621172
Damn, so it never even began. It really is over.


>>15621840
Just specifying. Is there something wrong with mentioning a concrete visual detail in a story?

>>15622068
>Just specifying. Is there something wrong with mentioning a concrete visual detail in a story?
You wouldn't have mentioned 'White' if the nurse was White.

>>15622085
Yeah I wouldn't have, because like 80% of them are white. Just like I didn't mention the color of the walls because there's nothing that stands out about it.

new cancer cure being investigated, writeup in cell
https://twitter.com/gigaj0ule/status/1686814611658715136
https://www.cell.com/cell-chemical-biology/pdfExtended/S2451-9456(23)00221-0

>>15622235
pdf is 30 or so pages but first page is the tldr

I posted this in another thread but I wanted to post it here too.

What are everyone's thoughts on AI's impact on the need for doctors and the role of midlevels? I think the jobs for doctors will be massively reduced due to AI augmenting the diagnostic abilities of physician assistants and nurse practitioners. We're already seeing hospitals hiring more and more PAs/NPs per doctor, and NPs have achieved the right to practice independently in 26 states.
PAs and NPs are continuing to lobby for more independent practice rights in more states, and if AI can make their diagnostic ability comparable to that of the average doctor (it basically already can), then do you really think hospitals will keep hiring doctors? The only safe specialty will be surgery, but that will become overwhelmingly competitive (more than it already is).

The only saving grace for current doctors will be if they're willing to take much lower salaries to compete with PAs/NPs, but that isn't an option for new MD grads with $300k of debt. This is actually a good thing for everyone except MDs, as it will bring down the cost of healthcare significantly.

I feel like anyone who wants to be a doctor should pursue the PA/NP track, otherwise they're going to get screwed.

>>15622491
>I feel like anyone who wants to be a doctor should pursue the PA/NP track
Based. I'm an NP and I could have gotten into medical school but the work/life balance of NPs is so much better. I think I made the smarter choice, actually. To any premeds out there, I implore you to do the same; don't go to medical school.

>>15618808
>due to diversity/female quotas

my med school is over 50% asian

>>15621328
>while a dentist is putting braces on kids

https://www.wsj.com/articles/mike-meru-has-1-million-in-student-loans-how-did-that-happen-1527252975

>>15622491
NPs are dragging PA's through the mud, just be association

PA only makes sense if you're female

>>15622529
let me guess
>retard takes out the maximum amount of student loans so he can party/buy new cars/etc
>oh ill just pay it back later bro
>graduates
>wtf i have to pay for this?

>>15622529
>>15622540
>go on government repayment plan
>pay 10% of your income for 25 years
>get loans forgiven
paying your loans back is for suckers

>>15622529
How did you even get into Med school if you're this stupid.
>The average debt for a dental student was $292,169 in 2019 while medical students owed about $215,900 in 2018

>>15622509
Wait, is it possible to become an NP without first working as a nurse? Is there a fast route for someone who did a non-nursing bachelors (but still took basic sciences)?

>>15622538
Yeah NP does look like the stronger option.

>>15622557
>Wait, is it possible to become an NP without first working as a nurse? Is there a fast route for someone who did a non-nursing bachelors (but still took basic sciences)?
Yes, please be an NP instead of going to medical school. It's the smarter choice.

>>15622491
I feel AI is still too far away to be able to be significantly integrated into medicine due to the FDA regulations/AMA pushback. I do feel that midlevels will keep getting broader scope of practice as well, but I don't think they'll significantly affect MDs and their wages for at least 50years.

>>15622509
optometry is another great midlevel medical profession (at least in the US and maybe canada).

>>15622577
Dont they cap out at like 150k a year tho or am I mistaken

>>15622577
Optometry seems pretty boring, plus it's a lot more competitive. There are a lot of NP schools (many of which are online) and the average admission rate is something like 70%. You can specialize in whatever field you want and gun for high-paying fields like anesthesia.

>>15622589
median is about 124k but it depends on many factors such as area/state, primary care vs specialty optometry, solo private practice vs group OD practice vs group OD-MD practice, etc. bureau of labor stats pic-related

>>15622577
>optometry
I always see you, why didn't you become an ophthalmologist? Why are you always shilling optometry?

>>15622491
I wish i could put every pseudo intellectual on reddit or 4chan who talks about AI diagnosis in front of an ER department with GPT-4 open and let them handle all decisions and responsibilities for the day. AI in its current form is just useless, uptodate is a far superior choice every single time.

>>15622616
>boring
some people like it, some dont
>a lot more competitive
sure, it's more competitive than NP schools, but it's not that bad. there's a lot of retards.

>>15622627
>I wish i could put every pseudo intellectual on reddit or 4chan who talks about AI diagnosis in front of an ER department with GPT-4 open and let them handle all decisions and responsibilities for the day.
Cope. MD = Doctor or Memorization.

>>15622627
>in its current form
I don't need to say more.
Also the premise here isn't that the AI is doing all of the work. The premise is that an NP, instead of consulting a doctor for a more complex/rare diagnosis, will consult the AI. They can legally practice independently despite having significantly less diagnostic knowledge, so imagine being the average doctor and trying to convince the hospital why you deserve 2-3x the salary of an NP+AI.

>>15622625
a lot of reasons. im not into surgery too much, was worried about trying to get into the very competitive ophthalmology spots, scope of practice keeps expanding for optometry for nonsurgical interventions (lasers being the new big push in many states though i don't know if i'd ever see enough patients where i plan on practicing if it's worth to buy one), setting up a private solo ophthalmology practice seems incredibly more difficult/headache than solo optometry, optometry teaches more about vision therapy which i found interesting (i've heard many ophthals still view it as shit), the amount of schooling, etc.
>shill
i just want to talk with people.

>>15622651
>i just want to talk with people.
What do you even contribute besides promoting optometry?

>>15622676
shitposting :^)

>>15622685
>shitposting
Like what you're doing right now?

>>15622646
>. The premise is that an NP, instead of consulting a doctor for a more complex/rare diagnosis

Most misdiagnosis happens in common medical disorders that present in a very unusual way, not the other way around. The presentation of stroke, heart attacks can be extremely variable. A patient with shoulder pain,stomach pain or toothache as their only symptom can be a heart attack. It is usually experience, careful examination and observation that allows you to make the distinction.

Anyone here taking rapamycin?

>>15622634
that would spell DoM thoughever

>>15622755
Nothing stops NPs from gaining that experience. MDs fresh out of medical school certainly don't have it. If you took an MD track and cut out a lot of the memorization that's going to be made obsolete by AI, put more emphasis on clinical skills, and paid residents a proper wage, you'd have yourself a PA/NP program.
In the future MD programs will exist solely for those looking to pursue surgical specialties.

>>15622847
>In the future MD programs will exist solely for those looking to pursue surgical specialties.
I would argue it would be easier to integrate surgical specialties into a fast-tracked training program than medics. Thats basically what dentistry school is to some degree. a 7 year program, 2 years didacts, 5 years of ortho surg for example, could be feasible

>>15622847
Crazy that surgery was a bone-setter tier trade at one point that medical doctors refused to accept as equals, and soon it is going to be the only medical field left. How the turns tabled.

>>15622907
Oh for sure. MD programs will have to be shortened to something like that to survive. There's no reason for surgeons to be learning and practicing in details the work of the NPs/PAs.

do you mind vet dippin toe in this thread

>>15623013
Post some animals you see.

>>15623025
surgery pics
its horrible
also I have been out of the field for few years, was trying to ask how should I get back in track

>>15623062
Oh. I was trying to scope for some cute cat pics.

>>15622509
>I'm an NP
NP chads rose up

>>15622540
>undergrad debt
>$600k dental school (they exist)
>$300k dental residency

dentists have to pay to do residency, btw
this guy was dumber than any med student

>>15622616
>gun for high-paying fields like anesthesia.

thats a separate nursing path.
still way easier than med school though. anesthesia is paying fat money to both doctors and nurses lately

>>15622646

> for a more complex/rare diagnosis, will consult the AI

Incredibly midwit take. Obviously not experienced in the medical field. Opinion disregarded.

>>15623392
Why is he 40 and hasn't paid any of it off though? assuming $300k /year, he can easily live frugally for some time and pay off most of it. And he had enough time already to do that. People choose to have debt, they're not stuck with it.

>>15623455
>is forgetting that AI can comb through literally every case report ever published, in addition to pulling in clinical trial results published 5 minutes ago
You're too focused on where AI is right now. Also, even current AI tech is enough to drastically reduce the number of doctors needed because rare conditions are, by definition, rare, and only veteran docs will be useful in those cases.

>>15618755
If I had to do real work, I'd rather have the gorilla-looking male nurse with me

>>15623711
What does real work involve? Caretaking? Yeah women are much better at that. Literally built by GOD himself for nurturing and care. Nurse is a naturally female profession, just like pre-K teachers is.

>>15623734
Tell me how your cute 5ft nurse works out when you need an extra hand to flip some fat bastard onto/off an operating table or be stress resistant in ICU conditions surrounded by piss blood and vomit

>>15623745
>>15623734
and also have any god damn common electrical/mechanical sense regarding medical equipment and ergonomics in general

>>15623745
Idk, but I know If I was the fat bastard, I would much better prefer to be manhandled by a harem of cute 5 ft nurses than 3 gorillas. You gotta operate like a business anon, keep the customer satisfied as well. It's not all about you.
Also, you can call in a jannie or something for manual labor. Nursing qualifications do not involve heavy lifting. It never has. If you're hiring for manual labor, you're gonna lose out on other more important aspects of nursing that women are obviously better at.

>>15623885
>you're gonna lose out on other more important aspects of nursing that women are obviously better at
like i said, try working in real medicine where you need a nurse for actual medical skills(fast iv access and other manual skills(urethral cath, nasogastric tube, basic airway handling, etc. etc.)medication handling, monitoring, knowledge of emergency protocols, etc.) rather than whatever meme 'caretaking' your eye candy glorified receptionists do

>NPs itt
NOT MED GO AWAY

>>15610903
why would you study medicine if you hate people lol

>>15624976
that's like saying why would you become a mechanic if you hate drivers
i hate people too, but enjoy fucking around with human physiology

>>15624950
Cope. We're the next generation of medicine.

Thoughts on working for the government and getting loans paid off in 4y vs standard repayment plans vs other ideas?

>>15624950
Idk about the rest of the fields, but I always choose a NP psych to go to. They are way better with giving you the meds you need. Actual psychs are pedantic women who want to help you with "le coping strategies" and "we gotta make sure" etc. like STFU bitch, I don't need advice, I need meds, give me the prescription and fuck off. NPs are good with getting to the point. I feel like regular psychs make everything convoluted because they want to put their years of education to good use even when we don't want it. Need to feel important and not just a med prescriber. NPs don't have the same ego issues. NPs should be renamed to RN (Real Niggas, not registered nurse). Because that's what they are, they keep it real 100%.

>>15625494
>psych
schizo opinion irrelevant, didn't read further

>looking for comfy med bros
>find thread filled with noctors and their opinions
>this is why we cant have nice things.

Why can noctors only exist as parasites

>>15625681
Sorry, faggot. This thread is for nurses now.

>>15625457
I'd become a politician solely to stomp out nurses. Dont test me

>>15625681
>NOOOOOOO!!!!!!, you have to dedicate a substantial amount of time and money pursuing a medical degree, you're NOT allowed to have a life outside medicine!!!!!!
Midlevels are the future now, old man. I'm glad I didn't go to medical school.
>>15625721
You won't do shit. Go back to studying.

>>15625730
>implying you dont study
Nurses, everyone. Our future is grim

>>15625730
I am so glad I went to medical school. I didnt realise how bitter it made people who didnt get in.

>>15625580
lmao, once you realize the power of amphetamines, you'll be booking an appointment with a NP psych as well.

>>15625738
Don't put words in my mouth. I do study but not the unimportant shit like the coagulation cascade.
>>15625749
I got accepted into multiple MD programs but don't have an ego like you do, so I went to NP school for a better lifestyle.

>>15625763
>the unimportant shit like the coagulation cascade.

Thats what you call unimportant lol . Honestly just steer clear of my fking pts.

>the unimportant shit like the coagulation cascade
>goes on to wonder why his patient on enoxaparin has normal INR, dose must be too low

>ITT: arrogant faggots thinking they're hot shit because they know some trivia that they can be googled.

this must be bait
as a euro doctore who doesn't have this midlevel memery i refuse to believe this guy isn't baiting

>>15625827
What's yurop's midlevel scene look like? Is there any push to give nurses more power?

>>15625837
I can't speak for w. europe, in ex-ussr shitholes there's a clear delineation of education and responsibilities of the two
nurses work with their hands, doctors work with their brain
doctors do the diagnostics and prescription, nurses handle the actual medication administration and patient care
it's a bit more muddled in surgery and anesthesia where nurses are trained in some basic skills to assist the doctor(i.e. the operating nurse might help suture or the anesthetist may have some basic airway skills), but all the advanced and risk-involved tasks are still doctor only

Nurses need to [redacted] xerselves

The medical establishment tortures pre-meds so it's only fair that NPs torture them. The only fix to "The Nurse-practictioner Question" conundrum is to make life easier for pre-meds.

>be me
>OMFS resident
>get consult
>”all of pts maxillary teeth are mobile, think it might be a lefort fracture”
>go look
>patient just has a denture
-_-

>>15621106

Fucking hell, nurses don't get paid enough to deal with this.

>>15626568
lol

>>15622235

Eh, it's nothing exciting yet. Come back in a few years and see if the clinical trials are promising.

>>15625763

Don't speak about my fucking cascade like that you heathen.

i know this is an english language board but american doctors dominate the conversation and assume that everyone else is also scared of being replaced by "midlevels"
no. we don't care. you chose the system that paid more, you deal with the bs

>28 year old virgin
>qt nurse smiled and talked to me today
i want to hang myself bros

I started 4th year yesterday. I got about 14 pimp questions wrong in a row. I feel demoralized not going to lie.

I don't know how you do it ER friends. This is miserable

>>15626797
List some of the questions
We’ll see if u were just being retarded or not

>>15626894
No I really am very retarded it's embarrassing

>>15626938
It’s ok anon
It’s hard under that pressure. Simple stuff u obviously know goes out the window

>>15626975
>>15626938
U will get better

>>15626975
>>15626980
thanks bros i will keep trying, of course

Could I get kicked out of my pediatrics residency if I don't agree with transing the kids? I pretty much just keep my mouth shut in every lecture. I don't know what I would do if I was placed in a situation where I had to actually prescribe something though. Hopefully I just would never be placed in that situation until I'm out on my own

I just got rejected from med school. I'm pretty sad, but I'm going to keep trying as many times as it takes. Any advice on what to do from here?

>>15627272
change your skin color, become trans, score better on the MCAT, get real world work experience, etc.

>>15627272
>I just got rejected from med school.
As in you just got rejected from all your schools for the 2022-2023 cycle?

>>15618743
523 MCAT, 3.1 gpa, 1 research pub., good ECs, 3 languages etc. Gonna apply next cycle, but am I gonna make it or is it over because of the GPA.

>>15627280
I only applied to the school in my home country so far. I'm eligible for a government funded scholarship, but it only covers my tuition at UWI campuses in the caribbean, of which there are 3. I can't afford med school otherwise so I'm limited to those. I missed the application deadline for the other 2 campuses, as I wrongfully assumed they would all have the same deadlines and planned to apply to all three at once. Now that I have my documents in order I'll apply to each university as their application periods reopen.

>>15627317
>>15627276
I think the dude is already brown. Explains the shonen shit reaction pic.

Is it sign of cahexia if you steadily lose weight (0.25-0.5kg per week) despite objectively eating as much or more than before while also moving way less (due to constant exhaustion that can't be relived by rest and agonizing bone pain)? No diabetes, no hyperthyroidism and parasite free since it began (2 months ago) to my knowledge

>allergic to raw foods
Is this possible? Whenever I eat them my mouth and throat get irritated and I am constipated. Is it a result of a lifetime of eating shit foods?

>>15627381
End-stage urbanism

>>15626568
kek

>>15627385
Can I just get rid of it by ie. eating a grape every day until it goes away?

Is it possible to get rid of an allergy by increasing exposure to it?

>>15627283
Nice mcat. Some schools filter at 3.25 GPA. I imagine you'll match somewhere though. If you don't hate the idea of DO too much you're pretty much guaranteed. With that MCAT you'd probably be good regardless though

>>15627411
Yes. They do this in clinics to gradually relieve people's anaphylaxis risk with bee venom as an example

>>15627272
Go to NP school. You will be way better off than 90% of the students trying to get an MD right now when NPs+AI inevitably take over most of medicine outside of surgery.

What's the fastest route for me to become a nurse practitioner if I have an undergrad in engineering and a PhD in biomedical engineering?

>>15625738
Who needs to study all of the useless details when you have AI for that? Specialize in a narrow area via clinical experience and let MedGPT handle the rest.

>>15625837
It's not really a thing because yurop docs accept a modest wage instead of demanding $300k+ salaries.

>>15627272
Go DO and be a bonerbro with me

>>15627599
I saw this
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5479315/
Which gave 15 microgram allergen for two years. They should have given them 200mg instead.

>>15627622
>>15627644
Based. NPs are going to run this shit one day.

it's not a competition

Is this real?
Can you drive metal stakes into someone’s brain and not kill them?

>>15627592
Thanks, just been kinda anxious because of the gpa, but you're right, hopefully the MCAT makes up for it.

>>15627344
It's cancer.

>>15627272
It's OK man, I reapplied and got in this cycle to a good MD program, so theres hope yet for reapplicants! Advice is tricky, because depends on your situation. Get some honest feedback and figure out how to make the most of the time before next cycle. For me that was getting patient care time and emphasizing medicine as my calling. Most schools are gonna ask about reapplication, so craft a story around it.
I know where you are right now and it fucking sucks, but there's a path forward, even if it's not what you originally planned. Don't let an adcom define your self worth.

How do you cure supraventricular tachycardia which is triggered by exerting physical effort for a couple of minutes and bending over past 90 degrees soon after?

NPs, lol... lmao

Chat gpt 7 isnt going to make you smart when most things known about human disease are absolutely wrong or pharma sponsored. The average doctor is an absolute midwit, the average NP is a standard deviation below that.

Stick to prescribing metformin in urgent care.

You can continue to peddle snake oil on the corpse of healthcare delivery. The lid is popping off right now right under the noses of the idiots running the hospitals and insurance plans. Id really consider stocking up some critical supplies and buckling up for the collapse of the american healthcare system.

>>15628208
when did it start, and was it after you got mRNA vaxxed?

>>15626568
holy shit

>>15628309
Around six years ago. Before I got vaxxed. I already had a mitral valve prolapse.

>>15628297
>all doctors are midwits
Makes me feel confident since I'm not a midwit

>>15627990
You just ask the brain nicely to move out of the way of the stakes

>>15628385
Doctors are 125. Conversely, the average IQ of doctors out because of malpractice was average, around 100. So midwittery can land you in trouble in medical professions because of the high stakes.

>>15628208
Mammalian dive reflex or oculocardiac reflex

>>15628453
>Doctors are 125. Conversely, the average IQ of doctors out because of malpractice was average, around 100.
Source? I want to read about this.

>>15628500
I made that graph in middle school for a project, so it's legitimate.

>>15628500
I was narrating from memory so I guess I messed it up a bit, but not malpractice per se. But medical infractions in general. So Physicians referred for any error.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0887617704000769
tl;dr
>The results of this retrospective review of neuropsychological performance on 148 physicians referred for assessment due to allegations of medical error suggest that, as a group, they are generally of average intelligence. Average intellectual functioning among this physician group is consistent with prior reports of physicians assessed for performance difficulties but is lower than the expected level of functioning of physicians as a whole (Turnbull et al., 2000, Madden, 1988). Previous reports of the intellectual functioning of “non-impaired” physicians have suggested that the mean I.Q. of individuals with medical degrees is 125 (Matarazzo & Goldstein, 1972; Wecshler, 1972)

>>15628532
Now why would you be mad, hmmm what could it be, what could it be? lol, facts don't care about your feelings, snowflake.

>>15628568
Just having a bit of fun, calm down.

>>15628373
Sorry bro that sucks. I would start with not doing that. Also, give blood

>>15622847
You're at peak dunning kruger if you think doing the physical task of surgery is harder to do than to practice medicine. Any retard can do surgery, which is a physical skill. Knowing when to operate and what kind of procedure (open chole or lap chole) seems to be the hard part that less people can do. You don't know shit and it should be obvious to anyone in real medicine.

>>15628539
I had my IQ ballparked between 130-135. Feelsgoodman

>>15628208
Ablate everything and become a robot with a pacemaker
T. NP

>>15618743
Recently I've noticed I'm growing hair in my ears. Is it just old age or a symptom of something more sinister?

>>15631060
It becomes less of a physical skill when shit goes wrong during surgery and you have to react quickly to save the patient. Not to mention someone has to be iterating on and improving surgical procedures.

>>15631060
Agreed all I have seen surgeons do is the same shit over and over. They simply refuse to operate if there is a hint of a complication. I cant imagine anything more boring.

I'm a pre-med

>>15631060
>if you think doing the physical task of surgery is harder to do than to practice medicine

it is, retard
they work way more and stand with back hunched all day

>>15631453
Become a pre-NP and join the future of medicine. Don't waste your time in medical school.

>>15631453
>lust poster
Youre ngmi

>>15618755
Your weak doctorly arms need strong men to do the heavy lifting for you.

>>15631060
You're at peak dunning kruger if you think doing the task of practicing medicine is harder to do than surgery. Any retard can practice medicine, which is memorizing an algorithm. Knowing when to use GLP-1 agonists vs SGLT2 inhibitors seems to be the hard part that less people can do. You don't know shit and it should be obvious to anyone in real medicine.

>>15628539
Damn that's interesting. I read up on it a bit since the posts got me interested. It seems like a veracious claim that Medical doctors are ~125 with a 6-7 st dev. And it is still roughly that today. and the data confirms some of the claims in that pic >>15628453 when you read about it. It got me wondering though. What makes it so that 120-140 ends up being the Ideal range for becoming a doctor roughly, I mean I can think of what stops the lower IQ from doing it, Mcats, gpa etc. But can't think of anything that stops the very higher IQ. Are they just disinterested in medical professions? Maybe they're already rich so they don't need to be in this shit rat race? or something else, idk.
I never thought that IQ mattered much in being a doctor before though (except for of course being somewhat above average), I mean even the MCAT is less of an IQ test than any other standards test and is really much more so based on hard work. But I guess it does lol. Surprising. but pleasantly since I'm an aspie so it's good news for me.

>>15631183
You've got symmetrical teratomas in both your ears

>>15631844
Higher IQs would go into pure science for stimulation if they're spergs or high tier finance for profit if they're normies

>>15631735
This fall is my last semester, then it's time for more volunteer work, research at the uni and studying for the MCAT.

>>15631844
>tfw to smart too want to interact with fatties and demented old people

>>15632501
>Gee I don't know how all that digoxin got in their IV fluid

>white coat ceremony coming up soon
First few weeks of MS1 are already making me wish for premed again

>>15631844
Why would a higher IQ ever go onto get an MD? Just think about it. They should have tested NPs, that's where they would have found the 140 and 150 IQs.

>>15632712
>>white coat ceremony coming up soon
I hate how White Coat Ceremonies are at the beginning of the year. It would be so embarrassing to get kicked out of medical school down the line.

>>15632712
>white coat ceremony
Do Americans really? So cringe

what surgery is this?

>>15633268
Urology

>>15632738
Beginning to feel like I really didn't deserve my merit scholarship when there's people coming in with hoards of preexisting medicine-specific knowledge and my major was barely related
Hope to God i don't fail out :(
>>15633225
You're poor (and probably underserved bless your heart, you don't know better)

>>15633449
My country's GDP per capita is higher than the US. Try harder.

>>15633707
not a single respectable country here. You are a cuckold.

>>15633735
>respectable country
American culture is centered around niggers. They have holidays for niggers. They killed hundreds of thousands of white men to free niggers. They listen to nigger music. They elect a nigger as their president. They dress and act like niggers. They draw the entirety of their modern culture from niggers. They post sassy gifs about niggers. They watch sportsball in worship of niggers. Their biggest event of the year involves throwing parties in honor of niggers playing sports. They use nigger slang like "bruh" and "thot". When you say "Martin Luther" they're not thinking of the father of protestantism. They're thinking of the nigger. Their cities are completely overrun with niggers. They worship their ZOGbot police force disproportionately filled with niggers and their global police force of soldiers filled with niggers. Their men sit around watching nigger ball while their women sit around watching nigger talk shows. They worship niggers like Muhammad Ali and Michael Jordan and Michael Jackson and the late Eddie Murphy while attacking the whites who actually built their country before niggers took over. Their movies are filled with niggers and their music charts are topped by niggers. They send niggers to the Olympics and celebrate when the niggers win because those niggers are true red blooded american niggers. They watch nigger porn to a point where "BBC" does not make them think of an international media company but about nigger penises instead. They will tell you how much they hate niggers and how the mutt's law meme is a stale joke and they are just pretending to love niggers but the evidence speaks for itself in that America has always been and will be a nation of nigger loving niggers.

>>15633794

>>15633707
>per capita
shitter cope detected.

>>15633735
These countries are all still mentally poor
And being a doctor there is nothing short of wageslavery

>>15633794
Your country's government is replacing you. Do something about it, but you won't.

How do I make med students more interested in radonc?

>>15634013
Isn't radonc literally a dead specialty? Medonc management is the future, only boomers who bought in at the bottom will survive the shrinking - even gen x'ers are getting squeezed to hell and back, forget new recruits into the wagecage. The radonc SDN board is just depressing

>>15632712
All I need for mcat studying is uworld right?

>>15634136
begone foul premed

>>15632731

Kek

>>15615881
woah there anon are you suggesting i have to do my OWN research for my OWN thesis???

>>15634952
i will say though thank you for the suggestion i will unironically look into it

>>15632731
True

>>15634136
I tutor for the MCAT so it would be a conflict of interest to speak to pr*med without them paying fat stacks

>>15635856
>tutor
People actually use tutors instead of free videos? LOL

>>15635906
I used a lot back in my ugrad, not for mcat just classes, because my college offered them for free for being a first generation student. So might as well, not like I'm losing anything. The difference between watching videos and tutors is night and day. It's not comparable at all.

>>15635973
I think all you really need are prep books and videos for subjects you get stuck on. Tutors and prep companies charge thousands.

>>15633735
half the countries on that list are micronations with wealthy populace

monaco is literally less than 1 square mile

>>15634136
AAMC practice tests, uworld, and a premade anki deck

yes, all the 520+ scorers use anki now

>>15636150
Thanks. I'm a hu-white man, so your advice is well received.

>>15635906
You would be surprised, I make like 50 an hour working for someone else - could be making 100+ by myself still, but don't have time anymore to be hustling for clients

Funniest thing is that I just used the Kaplan books, Jack Westin and Uworld - not even any videos or Anki
>>15636150
I got a 525 and didn't touch Anki after day 3 of prep lmao
There's no reason to be pigeonholed into it

>>15636214
>cis white male
I hope you don't get a good score, for the good of America's healthcare needs - you need to get just good enough to go practice rural FM as a DO or lowtier MD

Hopefully far away from our diverse bastions of progress

>>15636499
>I hope you don't get a good score, for the good of America's healthcare needs - you need to get just good enough to go practice rural FM as a DO or lowtier MD
You're acting like someone with a good score can't just do the same thing and practice FM.

>>15633268
looks like a total knee. i only had one month of ortho though

>spend 4h studying since 4chan is down
>i dont remember anything i looked at
im retarded....

really dreading the match. i'm matching peds as a DO so it's not the end of the world. all the interviews and essays and letters of rec and money and me being autistic. it's just a lot

Why are doctors so universally clueless about nutrition?

>>15637075
Hey, at least you're not matching ophthalmology/dermatology.

>>15637075
I'm feeling it too, anon except PMR/IM here. of the 3 LORs for med school and 4 for residency I have written 6 of my own letters.

why peds if autism?

>>15636499
>cis white male
I'm also a racist bigot who showers with soap and refuses to eat dirty sloppa.
I'd like an internal med specialty, so I can flipflop between rural MD chad and working in a rural hospital. HR girlies don't like rural compared to the city so I can avoid the baren womb women pretty easily. The examkracker books I acquired for free seem like good content review. Also the EK YouTube account has kino test question reviews

is there a reason promethazine wouldnt have much of an affect on someone? I took 50mg before sleep for the first time and i just slept as normal

>>15633268
>13 whacks with a sterile hammer later
CALL XRAY!

>>15634139
This thread belongs to BPC (big pre-med cock)

So haem-onc is a no go?

>>15633794
Based.

>>15637953
>that house
>1 million dollars
LOL

>>15621106
lolno unless you went to a private richfag hospitalel, post-op nurses don't do this

she was into you to the point where she wasn't doing her fucking job, you're not meant to hand feed patients who can do it themselves and are meant to be discharged soon, the whole point of nursing care post-op is usually to encourage the patient to be independent

being touchy is fucking stupid because every time you touch a fucking patient you've technically contaminated yourself with god knows fucking what and healthcare workers are notorious sources of hospital acquired infections of the nastiest fucking shit, i touch patients as briefly as possible

won't go into how highly unprofessional it is to flirt with patients

enjoy the ego boost, it was for real, just remember that she was being unprofessional and stupid, you almost had your semen forcibly extracted by the vagina of a dumb femoid

>>15618755
natural male instinct to expand into frontiers

it's a solid career choice, good money, good opportunity for advancement, and ICU/ED/mental health always need males, it does feel nice to be in demand

>>15622557
You can't direct entry into a NP. NP requires bare minimum masters level nursing, and most of those require experience. Don't forget that the main safety guarantee for NPs is the fact that they've worked for a nurse in increasingly senior roles for about the same time as a doctor takes to get through to residency or more- at the barest minimum. Many NPs have been working as nurses longer than most new doctors or nurses have been alive.

>>15637953
>>15638316
do americans really pay a million dollars to live in old person village shack?

>>15638424
Rural FM doesn't have this problem

>>15638347
>experience = everything
Silence, propaganda bot.

>>15638490
Experience =/= everything as you've said, but any older nurse going for NP not only has experience, but will also have completed post-graduate studies and attained extra competencies/qualifications at that point. I did mention the minimum requirement of a masters.

>>15638512
>2-4 semesters of (potentially online) random classes
Such an upgrade.

>>15638512
This is all you need to replace a doctor? LOLOL

i'd like to have my semen forcibly extracted by the vagina of a dumb femoid
just saying

>>15627283
the GPA is a hurdle due to screens, but if you consider DO then you 100% will get into a decent DO school. there's a 520 in the class below mine. just be sure to explain "Why DO" or maybe have some DO shadowing, so it doesnt look like a total backup.
but maybe you'll get lucky with your state MD schools

because I work with alot of dumb asses that might do it one day, if someone drinks some of our fucking isopropyl alcohol, is it true you should give them regular alcohol like vodka? I'm considering stashing some on site just in case it happens--if its true that is.

>>15637075
>and me being autistic
consider path instead. seriously.
>>15637080
because it's literally not taught in med school. same with any dental medicine. i think we had one powerpoint slide on the teeth or the inferior alveolar nerve
>>15637953
yikes, postpartum psychosis
>>15638424
its new york. people will practically "kill their firstborn" to live there

What journals does /med/ read, if any? I miss reading print magazines and am thinking of subscribing to American Family Physician.

>>15640296
>What journals does /med/ read, if any?
Why do you want to read academic journals in your free time? Do something fun outside of medicine, man.

>>15640296
i read shonen jump

>>15640296
I'm peds and read aap stuff from time to time. Think it's pretty common to read whatever your specs main publication source is

>>15640090
No, the opposite, that's a methanol thing
In methanol the really toxic part is not methanol itself, but its metabolites produced by an enzyme in the liver, the same one which breaks down other alcohols, so you make it busy with ethanol to slow down the conversion of methanol
Isopropyl alcohol is a lot less toxic, so you want it metabolized and out as quick as possible(thus the usual poisoning treatment - gastric lavage and drinking loads of water), adding ethanol would just make the effects last longer

>>15640488
>i read shonen jump
Why are there so many anime dudes here? Are you a Spic?

>>15640296
Why would I read any? I know how/why medical research is pumped out kek, it's just mindless data regurgitation and fucking around with numbers for academia nerds to pump their publication numbers
I just read the final guidelines to see what's the Currently Approved(TM) action plan is to not get sued, and for my own education attend lectures/classes for knowledge/skills I'm actually interested in

>>15640296
i think BMJ is the only journal that's not completely and utterly bought by big pharma
BMJ gave light to the Pfizer whistleblower which was based.
Most journals don't do journal-ism though. They just upload a pdf file of the paper whoever payed them to do it.

Way more important that you have to read the papers and nowadays you also have to read the appendix to the paper because the paper itself is basically an ad and the critical stuff is in the appendix
and read them CRITICALLY
>>15640765
There are problems with your approach
1. guidelines apply to about 80% of the patients. often a person comes in that doesn't fit the gudielines.
2. guidelines is what's minimally expected.
3. most important point. Guidelines DO NOT tell you the effect size of the treatment that is recommended. If you read the papers you'll see that a large part of the treatments we use have tiny tiny effect sizes. Having an idea of those tiny ass effect sizes is great when you have to make a clinical decision and actually not be distracted by nearly meaningless interventions and just focus on the important interventions that may actually.

Guidelines just suck and a lot of them are based on poor evidence. There's so many of them and they contradict eachother, you can't even follow all of them at the same time.
Also one thing is telling
>Currently Approved(TM)
you know that if the guideline changes all the time then it's probably not an important guidelien else they figured it out in 1996

You can't be a good doctor and not read papers nowadays. Unless ofc all you care about is not get sued.

PS
Hilarious how you'd think only the government made laws.
Apparently guidelines are also 'laws' now because not following it can get you sued even if following it is pointless or even potentially harmful.

PS PS
even reading the paper can be pretty pointless because the data could be falsified. Researchers rarely publish patient data. Unless a FOIA request is made.

Can one become medic 100% self-taught?

>>15641121

A qualified doctor? No. Not in any developed country. You need a recognised medical degree.

Can you learn things to an equivalent level of a newly qualified doctor without going to medical school? Possibly. Patient interaction and clinical skills will be hard to pick up though.

>>15640569
>anime
shonen jump is manga. (i dont actually read shonen jump.) i just read whatever romcoms i can find, and im white.

>>15641100
>Pfizer whistleblower

Hope you're just a larper and not someone who has actual patients

>>15641187
I had my covid19 vaccines (3 or 4 shots total, I can't remember) and encouraged everyone to get them because the vaccine (in particular) was a good thing and helped us get out of lockdowns. It was safe and effective back when it was released. Currently the virus is milder and mutated 1000 times over so vaccine is not that effective (it's outdated).
I'm not totally up to date on the cost benefit of it currently.
But let's be real, the mrna covid19 vaccine is the most widely sold drug ever, billions of dollars. And Pfizer still hasn't released patient data (in anonymized form) so we can make our own conclusions.
Pfizer is just ONE example. All drug companies should be regulated better and they should be forced to release patient data in anonymized form without having to go to court and doing FOIA requests. Oxycontin from Purdue pharma is an example of a drug company that falsified data, lied to doctors and thousands of people ended up harmed, addicted or dead. Nobody went to jail.
Anyways
In my opinion, media focuses on the anti-vaxxers on purpose to discredit actual criticism of how drug companies lie their asses off and buy FDA approvals.
It's like how oil companies finance fringe climate activists that vandalize paintings in museums.

On a personal level:
Next time you have to taper a patient off some benzo from the 70's or switch them, or change their blood pressure meds because of a totally unnecessary and avoidable drug shortage - remember the drug companies used that money to make drug ads and to buy FDA officials fancy dinners instead of producing basic meds to saturate the market.

>>15641243
Sure that's fair, guess i've misjudged you my bad. Agree with everything you said.

>>15641100
>words words words
sorry didn't read
too busy practicing actual medicine
do keep me informed about the results of your 10 year trial to prove hypertension pill A is 0.02% more effective than hypertension pill B(totally not sponsored by pill A manufacturer)
i've got my magnesium and urapidil iv in the meanwhile

Is it possible to have Crohn's with insignificant levels of C-reactive protein and low erythrocite sedimentation speed?

I have compatible symptoms except visible bleeding or nausea but a colonoscopy and a gastroscopy were negative so if it's there it's just in the small bowel. Also, nothing has been seen with ultrasound yet.

The doctors have told me to have an enteric MRI but I am afraid of the gadolinium deposition consequences in the long run form the IV contrast, many studies are being published warning that even the "safe" modern gadolinium chelates do stay in your tissues including the brain and the long term effects of it are unknown.

On the other hand if i go for a CT scan of the entire abdomen the radiation dose would be very high.

Could any anon provide any insight about my predicament?

>>15641374
>insignificant levels of C-reactive protein and low erythrocite sedimentation speed?
>I have compatible symptoms except visible bleeding or nausea
>a colonoscopy and a gastroscopy were negative so if it's there it's just in the small bowel.
>Also, nothing has been seen with ultrasound yet.
irritable bowel syndrome
consistent with your paranoia over a single fucking CT
take meds, schizo

>>15641374
stop going to the doctor

>>15641408

yeah, those abdominal cramps that throw me on the floor in fetal position followed by explosive diarrhea are totally of no concern

>>15641374

Normal scopes, normal inflammatory markers, presumably other blood tests normal and lack of bleeding are all very reassuring.

Further investigation seems unnecessary; what is the remaining differential at that point?

>>15641469

What I forgot to mention is my faecal calprotectin is high, fluctuates between 150-300 mg/kg and in the colonoscopy they didn't take a look into the ileum for whatever reason.

>>15641482

Can't always get into the ileum.

The majority of raised calprotectin is not due to IBD. Even very high calp is only ~50% predictive for IBD.

>>15638339
We're so back
>unless you went to a private richfag hospital
It's so over

I traveled to go to Hopkins hospital for the surgery, so one of the biggest hospitals in the world. It's not richfag per se (I think, there was a lot of black people there lol), but I think much of the staff thought I was rich because of some things, incl. the nurse (I think she even said something about how she was impressed and that I must be smart). Even though I'm not. Not rich at all, nearly broke. So maybe it was just because of that.

I really like the rest of the post though, makes my ego feel really good. It feels good to be liked by cute women. I would have really liked my semen to be extracted by her vagina. Damn should have asked for her number. I always end up missing opportunities like this.
>>15626591
Deal with what? I didn't grope her buddy. Was just talking. There was no indication that she was uncomfortable.

Why are GPs always the biggest retards possible? Do all rejects end up becoming GPs or something?
I feel sick to my body when I'm near a known GP

>>15641553
Depends on your cut-off, just "elevated" calprotectin like above 50 has low specificity as you say. However above 200 in the presence of clinical symptoms should be sufficient to warrant more testing. Especially given how often crohn's disease is only restricted to the Ileum alone. I'd suggest doing the coloscopy again and request a ileum sample this time.

>Memefact: Body odour is caused by old sweat

I guess that's sometimes true but it doesn't explain why I can be freshly showered and bathed and then out of nowhere it's like a stink gland has just popped under my armpits leaving me smelling strong enough to be leaving stink-trails.

wtf med?

>>15640296
I read the British Journal of Anesthesia.

>>15642041
Yeah, that's the whole point
It's a beautiful system, really
Retard doctors get filtered from serious specialties into GP/FM, and a GP/FMs job is to filter retard patients from taking up serious specialists' time

>>15642228
>retard patients
>see retard doctors
>retard doctors send retard patients to specialists
>everybody's time is wasted and nothing is fixed
>big pharma pockets minimum fees for every visit in the process

Amazing

>>15641374
>Could any anon provide any insight about my predicament?

Literally eat your own shit, cultivate your flora.

What on earth do you hope to see with magnetic imaging? Some foreign bodies you lost up your ass as a child?

I'm so fucking dumb and socially incompetent. It's all so tiresome.

>>15642499
hey, me too :)

>>15642499
Same

>>15642228
I'm pretty smart and I *want* to do FM. Why is it so shameful?

>>15642707
>study biology/chemistry and medicine for years to stamp prescriptions for hypertension drugs for old people and diabetes drugs for fat people for your entire career

Can alcoholism cure the depression?

>>15642174
You should shave your armpit hair. More hair = Larger surface area for bacteria to inhabit = more stank. It's not entirely accurate, but just think about more "smell" getting stuck in all that hairy mess just like shit gets stuck in ass hair. Or how it might be harder to clean out the "smell" from the hair just like it might be harder to clean a hairy head vs a bald head.

I haven't gone back to armpit hair (or ass hair for that matter) since I started shaving. It's just objectively way better. Less smell, less sweat, less hassle, life is just better. I have convinced many armpit-having skeptics to do the same and everybody has thanked me later for the enlightenment. You will as well.

>>15642499
I am neither and it's still tiresome. Life never gets better.

>>15642273
Now imagine
>20,000 retard patients
>3000 retard doctors
>1000 specialists

>Retard doctors screen and send only 2000 of the 20,000 retard patients to the specialist
>Specialist is not bogged up by a constant flow of retard patients asking continually for retard shit, they are filtered by the retard doctor.
>Retard doctor is able to provide the retard shit for the retard patient. And specialist is able to provide specialist care only for those that really need it.

>Everyone is happy.

Amazing, isn't it?

>>15642920
Are you depressed?

>>15642832
Where I'm from FM can work emergency and as internists so it doesnt seem so bad.

>>15640518
thank you

>>15618743
Anyone here have the military pay for med school or do Doctors Without Borders? I'm interested in both

>>15642949
No, not at all. Quite the opposite. But as Schopenhauer says, want and boredom are the twin poles of human existence. You solve one problem, you suddenly have another much different problem that replaces it. Life never collectively gets good in our experience of it. Our experience just fluctuates endlessly.

>>15643201
>doctors without boarders
Let the Africans die. Wtf is wrong with you

wondering if you guys know how they maintain temperatures for fluids in thin tubes. i'm building a thing and i need to monitor line temperature of fluids in like, 2mm ID tubes.
i figure people in medicine might have practical experience with this, making sure that blood or IV lines are at a stable temperature or whatever.

>>15642174
>Body odour is caused by old sweat
its caused by bacteria defecation. youre not washing it well enough + some smells persist (think onion or garlic).

>>15643825
No, they are my Human brethren. I value their life just like my own blood brother's.

>>15643951
Stop. 20% of their DNA isnt even in the modern human genome.

>>15643923
I have no experience doing that kind of stuff in medicine but I worked in a spectroscopy lab in undergrad where we had to keep solutions moving across flow through cuvettes at a constant temperature.
We just used an immersion circulator and water bath (basically just a sous vide machine, but more expensive because it was a scientific instrument).

Another day, more mexican patients who cant speak any English on govt benefits who dont follow anything you ever tell them to do. Oh joy. Can we please import more of these upstanding citizens?

>>15643980
Youre doing doctors without borders in the USA? Rekt.

>>15643201
I'm getting med school paid for w/ scholarship but want to do Doctors without Borders after residency, preferably in some rural but highland (so awesome weather) place
Do they look for a lot of surgeons?

>>15644023
All doctors in the US are doctors without borders, dont you know? Borders are made up lines devised by evil white men.

>>15643980
>he doesn't speak spanish in 2023
This is a you problem

>>15644052
>spics come to my country and I need to speak their language
Yep, makes sense to me.

>>15643923
https://jorvet.com/product/warm-line-gen-ii-iv-fluid-line-warmer/

>>15644072
>I am unable to learn any second language at all.
Very plebeian behavior. 200 years ago, you would be required to learn both Latin and Greek for the most basic college education in the US. They have loosened that requirement and you can't even learn one language now? Even though knowing additional languages, especially Spanish, raises chances of getting into med school exponentially and is extremely helpful on the job? ngmi

>>15643950
>bacteria defecation
I know it's hard to imagine, ranjesh, but not all living beings shit

>>15643957
How did you even get into med school with this degree of debilitating illiteracy? I hope, for the better of our medical industry, that you're still a pre-med.

>>15643980
>doing a spec where he actually has to talk to a conscious patientoid
ngmi

>>15640569
>Why are there so many anime dudes here?

dude, its 4chan. what do you expect?

>>15644345
Spanish is a very ugly (and useless) language.

>>15644415
Ugly? sure, your preferences and I agree as well desu. Useless? absolutely not. In the US, it's the most useful language apart from English.

>>15644420
No, 2nd most useful is Japanese to read manga.

>>15643923
Ah. My 3rd world education finally pays off. When I take care of critical patients I blast the 1L saline bottle at the microwave. Then I open a hole and place the IV line inside.
>>15643980
Back when I did my social service I had the very same problem. Language wasn't the problem, it was their mental retardation.
Have fun with our worsts, they're your problem now lmao.

>>15644352
>>/Reddit/ would be more of your place, niggerloving tranny faggot.

>>15642940
you also just perfectly described what a NP is. lol

sub retard filters retard patients to the retard doctor.

>be me, mexican doctor, legally aproved by my gubmint
>looking at job offers in google
>salaries for GP's average between 10 000 to 20 000 MXN
>google burger salaries, expecting to be something like twice higher
>not even close, it's like >10 times higher, according to the first results

Now I see why every asian-american dad wants to have a doctor kid over there. I would jump the fence, but my mexican diploma probably wouldn't be worth shit.

>>15640296

Does UpToDate counts? While we're on topic, redpill me on UpToDate, anons.

>>15644624
What's quality of life on your salary like mexibro? Can you afford a decent house, raise a family and the such?

>>15644479
>When I take care of critical patients I blast the 1L saline bottle at the microwave. Then I open a hole and place the IV line inside.
Holy fucking kek
And I thought I work in ghetto conditions in eastern europe

>>15644624
10,000 to 20,000 MXN per day is actually pretty normal even here for GPs (The average is $225,000 a year, which turns out to be almost a meagre 15000 MXN per day with 260 workdays a year) you're not losing out much. Stop worrying so much, you're right about average even for here. No point in jumping the fence

>>15644640

Well, for me, a literal kissless handholdless wizard, not bad, because I also inherited some properties (thanks grandpa and granma, they also bankrolled my career, may God have them in his glory).

Most married doctors I know, even specialists, have 2 or even 3 gigs, so they can afford a more luxurious life. I imagine maintaining a family with just 10 000 - 20 000 pesos a month is not as comfy.

>>15644656

Yeah, you are right. Anyway, all that I want for life is to buy me an expensive gaming PC and some good medical insurance because you never know. Other than that, I don't even plan to buy a car, because I don't even have friends, so I don't have a reason to go out other than for going to work. In short, I don't need money that much.

>>15642114

Even a very high cut (>250) off has a poor specificity (0.49 for endoscopically confirmed IBD when audited locally in our service).

Of course a high calP needs investigation (as has been done in this case), but it is very far from synonymous with IBD. It's a classic exclusion test, like a d-dimer although marginally less shit.

Redoing a negative colonoscopy only makes sense if the ileum was deliberately not intubated, which may or may not be what happened and even then the diagnostic yield is going to be low for an invasive and potentially dangerous test.

>>15644656
>10,000 to 20,000 MXN per day is actually pretty normal even here for GPs
Pretty sure he's talking per month here anon. American GPs earn per day what Mexicans earn per month, that's a massive difference.

>>15644657
>Well, for me, a literal kissless handholdless wizard
How are you some of you niggas, doctors, yet wizards? lol

>>15644697
Sufficiently advanced medicine is indistinguishable from magic

>>15644697

Being ugly and having cluster C personality disorders.

>>15644697
I'm just a resident but women don't give a fuck if you're a doctor. It's a mid 90s television meme

>>15644704
>but women don't give a fuck if you're a doctor
But they certainly care about the money, right?

>>15644479

>When I take care of critical patients I blast the 1L saline bottle at the microwave. Then I open a hole and place the IV line inside

Hey fellow beaner. I'm a retarded GP, studying for ENARM (see >>15644624).

What do you do that for if not a larp?

>>15644708
Not pesos, only dolares

>>15644720
Are you one of those swarthy, short Mexicans or are you light-skinned and tall?

>>15644727
he posts on 4chan, i'm sure you can figure it out.

>>15644735
>he posts on 4chan
I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. Some virgins are handsome.

>>15644727
I am not Mexican. I'm not that anon. I was just offering the truth as a third party. But lightskinned and tall, I am. But White American I also am.

My farts smell like what dried lentils smell like if they've been soaked for too long and started to sprout
Is this a problem?

>>15644741
How many lentils have you eaten recently?

>>15644745
About 4-5 cups of cooked lentils in the past week

>>15644741
What do dried lentils like if they've been soaked for too long and started to sprout smell like?

>>15644823
plant

>>15644845
Interesting

No motivation:
>research is falling behind
>haven't studied for 2 weeks
>more distracted during placement
>took me 20 mins to write a 3 line email about an audit
It's fucking over. I'm watching a car crash in slow motion.

>>15644740
>amerinog
>white
>>15644717
Cold infusion in critical state bad. Body temperature infusion in critical state good.
Simple as.

>>15645031
Niggers are outperforming you. Are niggers better than you? Tell yourself that if a dumb gorilla nigger can nigger harder than you can then youre a double nigger. Have a motivational picture

Is knowing Spanish as an American MD a benefit?

>>15645644
No, because then you'll only get spic patients.

GPfag here
bros, if you have a younger patient (around 20 years old) that has only tachycardia, do you give her a beta blocker? also, she has below average levels of iron in her blood

>>15637953
why did she do it?

>>15646355
Refer to psych. She has anxiety because this world is so fucking bleak

>>15646504
i don't think we should go to psych in these cases before somatic diseases are eliminated as a possibility