/sci/ - Science & Math

https://spacenews.com/northrop-grumman-prepares-for-final-flight-of-antares-with-russian-and-ukrainian-components/

https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/

>>15610817

>>15610835

yaaaaas https://apnews.com/article/space-command-biden-colorado-alabama-382b12b57733848fd1d083227aefa0bf

>>15610860
BASED BIDEN BASED BIDEN
AND FUCK YOU SENATOR FROM ALABAMA

>>15610860
Get fucked Shelby

>They are openly pushing for genocide of white people in South Africa.
>@CyrilRamaphosa, why do you say nothing?
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1686037774510497792
wtf they're gonna destroy him for this

>>15610835
I can see his neovagina is treating him well.

>>15610879
>This is all downstream from the rotten secular religion of wokeness and CRT plaguing America today.
Pure cringe thinking American fads have that much pull in South Africa. They would have landed on this course without any influence from the West.

https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/1686116328669908992
Dolphins near the Rocket Lab ship

>>15610879
People seem to forget that he is a saffer.

>>15610860
Can't wait for the colorado springs launch facility

>>15610879
what is a rosedale thread

>>15610879
They are literally singing kill whitey.

>>15610896
Come for the Pike's Peak race, stay to watch a rocket launch above the clouds. I'd be down for that for sure

>>15610896
Colorado would be an awful place to have a launch pad.

ULA has concerns about a third competitor in national security space launch

https://spacenews.com/ula-has-concerns-about-a-third-competitor-in-national-security-space-launch/

>>15610892
Dolphins are so fucking cool. This is also very random but this thought occurred to me yesterday: there are probably thousands of people who live in landlocked regions like montana or idaho or whatever who have never really traveled far from home and seen the ocean in person. That’s crazy to me. Like they know the ocean is salty in theory but they’ve never smelled or tasted that distinct flavor. They’ve never seen dolphins. They’ve never been on a boat. Must be sad

>>15610925
It would look cool as fuck but the post was satire. Is it ok to launch away from the ocean and further from the equator than you need to be?

>>15610938
There are people who have only known the sea who will never see montana

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJESLxEd0Tk

>>15610925
Colorado gives me too many nosebleeds and huge boogers but DAMN is it nice to have 60-70° weather in the summer
I wouldn’t want to live there though. Too many granola heads lol

>>15610933
nobody would care about you dropping debris on kansas or oklahoma

>>15610950
Hahah you raise a good point. The furthest north Ive gone, besides NYC which I won’t count here, is Colorado and New Mexico. I need to bug out one day and see Montana. I especially want to go to the Oregon-Washington-BC region. Especially olympic national park, it’s supposed to be a hidden gem

>>15610955
>nobody would care about you dropping debris on kansas

ESGhound would be furious if an airforce starship crushed the wicked witch of the west

>>15610907
based
accelerate!

>>15610955
Yeah forvthe same reason they are going to start doing east launches out of Vandenberg, but it has worse inclination options compared to Florida and California while having no water access for shipping rockets.

>>15610938
most people will not see most of the world anyway
even more extreme if you include the moon

What are we to make of the recent senate UFO drama as debunkists

>>15610988
Sad but true. Earth, as a planet, is fucking gorgeous. I wish I could safely go see syria, afghanistan, africa, etc. It’s the gem of the solar system!

>>15610993
distraction

>>15610995
>I could safely go see syria, afghanistan,
you would we classified as an UAP. Also I hope Earth turn into a tidally locked eyeball planet

>haven't used my fancy SpaceX novelty mug in a while!
>make coffee
>Mars terraforms
>happy face
>drink the coffee
>Mars slowly reverts to a desolate hellscape
:<

>>15611007
how does it work?

>Haven't used my SpaceX novelty torch lighter in a while
>fill pipe with meth crystals
>heat it
>become extremely euphoric and productive
>slowly start reverting to my old lazy self
:<

Looks like the hot stage extension is clamped on like a normal starship aft section. Neat

>>15611019
It's just a regular heat-changes-the-colors mug with red Mars as the cool state and blue Mars as the hot stats

>>15610993
House of representatives hearing. Big difference. There might be clowns in the senate, but the house is a clown show. I make nothing out of it. The guy will obviously start selling his newfound fame.

>>15611024

>>15610995
earth is cool but it has been tainted by EARTHERS. We must leave our comforts behind

>>15611034

So I haven’t given this a thought for like two years now but what alloy is SS rocking these days? Last I checked it was 304L or something?

>>15611019
I made a webm just for you

>>15611050
thanks fren :)

>>15610993
That it's not spaceflight. You also don't debunk testimony unless you can prove the great red football field of 2003 wasn't aliens or didn't happen. It's like asking what /sfg/ thinks of ford's sexual assault accusations against kavanaugh.

>havent used my fancy SpaceX novelty gas canister in a while!
>fill up with gasoline at local gas station
>huff fumes for about 30 minutes
>extreme euphoria and disassociation
>happy face
>pass out
>wake up and puke out all my guts
:<

>>15611044
something special ordered from a Finnish company in Alabama

>>15611058
didn't know huffing rocket fuel could do that

>>15611065
>huff liquid methane
>fucking freeze to death from the inside out
woah

>>15610938
Thalassophobia is also very common in people from landlocked areas

Me, I watched Jaws

>>15611050
Just apply heat to Mars. Terraforming is that easy.

I was supposed to have a published paper on the effect of radiation on DNA damage last august. It has now been almost a year overdue. Goddamnit.

>haven't used my fancy SpaceX novelty Falcon 9 dildo in a while!
>fill my ass with lube
>ride it for hours
>cover myself in cum
>aheago face
>post nut clarity
>realise I'll never be fucked by Musk
:<

>>15611074
>terraforming Mars is trivial provided a sufficiently large kettle and a lever with which to tip it

>>15611077
We need it too, MSLRAD's paper on the cumulative dose for the trip out to Mars uses an old study if I recall

>>15611080
>t.

>>15611080
can we get a webm of how it works

>>15611096
kek

Colonyfags will never know just how /comfy/ it is to sleep through an electrical storm
No orange sunsets
No blue dawns
No greenery or peaceful nature walks
Just barren landscapes

>>15610879
>their

do you all want to have a movie night

Is 1964 too early, realistically, for a mars lander? I’m trying to make my RSS career as realistic as possible.
Also, wtf do you do after landing on the moon in RSS career? It’s not realistic to move on to mars desu.
Do you build stations in LEO for the next 30 years then do a return to the moon and mars?

>>15611170
Fuck yes it’s too early lol

>>15611019

>>15611177
Ah damn I meant a probe to mars.
The US had lunar orbiters launch in ‘59 but they didn’t work. And the Soviets tried for mars and Venus flybys in ‘60 and ‘61.
But no one tried to orbit mars or Venus until like ‘69
The first attempt to land on the moon, however, was in 1962, and it was a small lander hoisted on the Ranger 4 spacecraft as a secondary payload

Just neat space race facts btw

>>15610935
everybody isnt winning Tony, you are losing :^)

>>15610935
Honestly this is such a fucking dick move by Blue Origin.
>”Gentlemen agreement” to not compete with ULA for NSSL launches
>End up competing with ULA
>Drive ULA out of business

>>15611197
>CEO Tory Bruno: ‘It’s not competition if everybody wins’
>ULA loses their natsec contracts
>surprise pikachu

/sfg/, gimme something to huff

>>15611201
oh no not that artificial government mandated conglomerate of boeing and lockheed's rocket programs, we can't just let them compete on their merits and heckin loserinos despite using Blue Origin engines

>>15611201
The third provider will be Boeing with a cargo SLS.

>>15611203
sweaty balls (female) and radium

>>15611201
ULA should have expected this.
building and launching rockets while contracting out engine development was always stupid anyway/

>>15611186
Ooooooohhhh oh then yeah. I would say Explorer 1 (1958) would be the same in ANY timeline, as the US was scrambling to get that shit in orbit as fast as possible. But after that, yeah, they could have theoretically attempted a Mars landing in 59 or 60 if there was a political desire to go there and prioritize it over the moon or humans to space or whatever

>>15611201
All tory had to do was choose Aerojet, merge with them, and Vulcan would already be flying. BO would still be shitting their pants and getting pitty contracts that get delayed ad infinitum. Instead he tied his fate to them

>>15611203
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed-choice_quantum_eraser

>>15611203
have a good whiff of some hydrazine.

>>15610812
>final Russian engines
does that mean a full two years without an Antares launch, since the Firefly first stage won't be ready until 2025? Yet another payload (Cygnus) rescued by Falcon 9.

It’s honestly painful how close the N-1 was to working. We could’ve at least had a few permanently crewed pressurized models on the moon since the 70s if the N1 and Saturn V flew together

>>15611209
To be fair it was either “go with this Jeff guy” or “pay Aerojet Rocketdyne twice as much, with probably even more delays than the BE-4”
ULA got screwed by AeroDyne being pieces of shit who can’t into engines that aren’t RL-10s or gajillion dollar SSMEs. Although on that same token, Aerojet Rocketdyne kind of sucks now because Jeff Who purged all their talent about 15 years ago. So maybe it is Jeff’s fault aftwr all lol

>>15610892
Uplift when?

>>15611219
N1 is only cool because it never actually worked despite multiple attempts, so it inadvertently garnered this “woah what it!” legendary status. In reality it was a pretty shitty rocket even if it did work. And Energia basically did everything N1 needed to and more, so. It would have been cool if Energia just became the workhorse of the CCCP/Roscosmos

>>15611216
the guy in pic is a dumb fag

>>15611225
*”woah what if”
I cannot type today

>>15611225
like Tupac?

>>15611216
looks like a good picture for a
>my feet hurt
meme
captcha 8GAGY

>>15611225
>>15611230
The problem with Energia is that it became operational when the USSR was dying. N-1 at least has a decade or two to do cool shit I guess

>>15611225

>>15611096
Idk how to convert into WebM, but I posted it on my Twitter https://twitter.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1521006895846277122

>>15611240
Fuck off tim, post official starship interior mock-ups or get lost

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-boeing-to-provide-progress-update-on-starliner-crew-flight-test/
>NASA and Boeing will host a media teleconference at 2 p.m. EDT Monday, Aug. 7, to provide an update on the first astronaut flight of the company’s CST-100 Starliner to and from the International Space Station.

why are we using propulsion? why don't we just fold space

>>15611248
It better be a press conference concerning the cancellation of the shitliner. ComCrew contracts were issued AGES ago;. Kek it’s competitor dragon is basically at its end-of-life, and this lil nigga has yet to bring a SINGLE soul to space

>>15611248
It's shuttered, isn't it?
RIP starliner
Many laughs were had at your expense.

The funniest part about Dragon is that it’s so flight-ready it’s constantly hogging docking ports and preventing its competition from even attempting to catch up

>>15611237

>>15611216

>>15611264
NASA is literally going to have to demand spacex slow down and move a mission back a whole expedition just to give Boeing! a chance. Probably a first in the history of spaceflight

>>15611222
no idea when this booster will fly again

>>15611271
They could use the spare dragons for tourism in the mean time

>15611269
brain damage

>>15611248
it will be a delay announcement. bad news is Monday release, good news for Fridays. That's how the corp world works

What stops Russia from digging up their Energia and Buran blueprints and making them?
Outside of money of course

>>15611288
same thing that stops nasa digging up saturn v

>>15611288
money

>>15611288
All the infrastructure was in Kazakhstan and all the industry was in Ukraine

>>15611288
The country is corrupt as fuck and any ounce of ambition is met with at least twenty to thirty men who are going to skim 90% of your budget before you even have a chance to design something on paper
That, and roscosmos has literally lost the ability to build hardware with the tolerances required for aerospace flight. The only thing they have right now is Soyuz because it is a retard proof design drawn up by men much smarter than anyone alive in the motherland today.

>>15611264
This always felt let cope to me
>oh we can launch till 2025 cuz muh docking ports
sure buddy

>>15611288
The same reason they are stuck with using T-80s and T-72s while pretending that Armata will be ready every week

>>15611299
>>15611306
kek

>>15611288
What’s stopping China from doing this is the real question. I guess that’s what LM-10 is though. It just doesn’t look as visually appealing as Energia does

>>15611283
Don't they need a date before they can delay it? Also Starliner delay telecons are so common they happen with basically no advance warning.
I'd agree with the others that it's over, if this statement didn't reiterate specific details of the CFT.

>>15611315
would it kill long lehao to pick a new livery? Like is there some CCP rule that every rocket has to look exactly the same, aka boring as fuck

>>15611306
>they are stuck with using T-80s and T-72s
Anon they've used multiple T-55 VBIEDs and are issuing T-62Ms to Motor Rifle units

>>15611315
>What’s stopping China from doing this is the real question
Maybe because you can't launch a photoshop pic?

>>15611319
I wonder if we can get an inside scoop early.
we need a PIZZINT equivalent for Boing.
If you didn't know, PIZZINT is like before the bin Laden raid or the invasion of Kuwait or Desert Storm, pizza sales spike in DC, since the CIA/White House/Pentagon staff are working late. This is a real thing - now they try and mask it by spreading out the orders.

>>15611328
I know everyone wants to meme China as being 40 years behind but it's silly to think they couldn't just make a really big kerolox rocket. They have their own modular station, I'm pretty sure expendable cores are a known concept for them.

>>15611320

>>15611044
Still 304L afaik

>>15611209
It's not like he had a choice, I doubt LockBoeing would've given him the money to start up an engine development department. And it would've taken even longer probably.

Captcha: NAJSA

>>15611337
What does L2 say is getting announced?

>over half of all active satellites are Starlink

>>15611362
he can't keep getting away with it

>>15611362
what if starlink is an ABM net that the Space Force has been keeping quiet about, it's already past brilliant pebbles in quantity

Does Boeing even want to do anything with shitliner besides the few NASA trips to the ISS? Dragon has inspiration 4, Axiom missions, and future trips to commercial stations as other duties besides ISS crew rotations.

>>15611367
don't forget polaris

>>15611169
If it ain't Space Cowboys, I ain't watching.

>>15611367
SUPPOSEDLY… commercial orbital reef and other stations. It’s not going to fucking happen though
BO would unironically have an easier time just making their own crewed vehicle

I want to believe

>>15611387
Imagine the smell

>>15611387
all redditors are socially deprived fags who feel the need to compulsively lie

>Elon is political posting again

ITS ALL SO TIRESOME

NO ONE CARES

BUILD THE FUCKING ROCKETS

>>15611320

>>15611392
no

>>15611387
>Things that definitely happened

>>15611393
Fuck yeah baby
Ooh remember when Russia did the Yuri’s Night soyuz? I think all rockets should have some graphic design thrown into the mix

>>15611347
Certainly better than a white canvas

good news everyone https://spacenews.com/boeing-nears-selection-rocket-initial-flights-cst-100-crew-capsule/

>>15611398
nothing beats the Pizza Hut proton

>>15610892
Is the one that just flew? Or the one from a week ago?

>>15611402
>the Boeing space systems manager's name is Elbon
>Elbon

you can't make this shit up

>>15611387
thanks for the 4chan pass kind anon

look how happy he is bros

>>15611406
Lel

>>15611405
must be from a week ago since the last launch got scrubbed to the 4th

>>15611387
DAE HAVE SEX???? SEXY SEX SEX
so sayeth Mr. Redditor

>>15611406
elbon mubsk

>>15611409
A real human being and a real hero

>>15611409
how upset would von Braun be about the last 60 years of rocketry

>>15611417
Seething like the rest of us

>>15611409
what is going on on his mind?

>>15611428
Dopamine and serotonin
Oh also: USA USA USA

>>15611398
Fuck that’s a really nice livery on a Soyuz. It’s a fucking tradgedy Russia didn’t cleanse itself of oligarchs and joined the EU or NATO after 1991.
Could you imagine Russia being America’s best friend? The Eagle and the Bear, united to shit on the Chinese. What a fucking tradgedy.

>>15611442
Do you blame them though? EU is gay. NATO is basically just an anti-russian organization lol.
I do agree though. The post-cold war 90s / early 2000s were very comfy. US-Russia relations were so strong, particularly the space flight sector. I wish they were going to the Moon with us as equal partners but alas it was not meant to be. They suck at space and we aren’t too sad to end ISS and say our final goodbyes to them
Now here’s a fun alternative history: ghadafi successfully creates the United States of Africa with a unified currency and passport system much like the EU, and they have the second strongest space flight sector in the world second to the US

Weird alternate history idea:
In 1962, Russia was choosing its 20-ton-to-LEO class vehicle. Korolev proposed the N11, which was an N1 minus the first stage.
Chelomei proposed the UR-500, AKA: Proton. Proton, obviously, won.
It’s fun to think about what would’ve happened if the N11 had been selected. A lot of the engine reliability issues of the NK-15 would’ve been found before the N1 first flew.

I’m not saying the Soviets would’ve beat the US to the moon, but it increases the likelihood of the N1 having a successful flight earlier on.

>>15611458
Any sort of United Arab space agency will likely use hypergolic, Soviet stuff, no? Neat idea but Jesus. The Russians, Chinese, and the West would team up to stop them lol

>>15611462
Holy shit imagine it flying along side the Saturn INT

>>15611465
There’s a pdf out there that showed that NASA even realized that flying 3 Saturn Vs a year was cheaper than the shuttle dev + flight cost and yet…they still picked the shuttle

>>15611463
Kek that’s true. The second ghadafi tried to pimp out some medium or heavy lift launcher he would have been invaded for muh WMDs

>>15611468
Fuck shuttle, although towards the end of the STS program they got REALLY good at refurbishing the entire stack as quickly as humanly possible (relatively speaking; remember this is the government)
They could probably refurbish shuttle orbiters and SRBs faster than they could build a bunch of Saturn Vs

current state of the thread is giving me golden age /sfg/ vibes

>>15611472
Yeah I heard that they were able to refly RS-25s without even static fires. It’s crazy to look at shuttle and realize that some parts of the programme were truly remarkable and others sucked fucking ass

>>15611476
Truly remarkable hahah

>>15611475
how would you say it is shaping

Whenever I go to the gym, I pretend that my warmup weight is a static fire. So I’ll be under the bench press at 50% my training max saying
>Static fire complete
If I lift up the weight but immediately rerack it, I say
>Hot fire abort. Hit fire abort
When I’m under the bar getting ready for my main lift (powerlifting), I say
>We are going for main engine start.
>T-10, 9, 8, 7, 6,
>5 - main engine start- 4, 3, 2, 1
And when the weight is moving, I like to pretend
>Copy chamber pressure is nominal, gimbal is good
When I fail a lift early on, I pretend
>We have had an anomaly on the pad I repeat we have had an anomaly on the pad
When I have a lift that goes well, Gustav Holst’s “Jupiter” plays in my head

>>15611491
You have CRIPPLING autism

>>15611491
Ummm, based department line 1

>>15611458
Do you think the space port would be on East Africa like all the east coast space ports we have or in West Africa so it could land on the Sahara similar to what the Russians do?

>>15611513
Both. And if they only had funds for one cosmodrome, it would obviously be in Somalia.
>inb4 some random anon makes a rebuttal about it being “politically unsafe” or some shit
The hypothetical here is that most of africa is united under a regime that brings stability

>>15611520
Is the equatorial portion of Somalia wet? If it is a desert, it would be a nice advantage over rainy places like Kourou or Alcântara

>>15611387
>10 years ago
honestly the reddit of a decade ago was probably in a better state than what most of the boards here are in currently

Is Turkey still going through with that Somalia space port idea

>>15611533
Africa is the asshole of earth so probably not

>>15611533
Wouldn't somewhere like Kenya make more sense given Somalia's current status?

>>15611532
Reddit used to be libertarian, apparently. 2015-2016 was a mistake

>>15611442
>>15611458
Nineties Russia was incredibly corrupt, anything that wasn't nailed down was sold for pennies on the dollar. Putin types are incredibly bitter about it.

Saturn A-1, the first Saturn variant studied. It used the traditional Saturn I and IB first stage, but with a Titan I first stage on top. A centaur could function as the third stage.

Saturn A-1 could put 6.5 tons into LEO - about twice the mass of Gemini but 1/3 the mass of Saturn IB’s payload (partially fueled Apollo)

http://www.astronautix.com/s/saturna-1.html

How do you think war in space will be fought?
>lasers
>missiles
>guns
>nukes aimed on a direction
What do you think is most likely

>>15611590
Depends on the time period. Orbital assaults on planets and moons could be hell due to “guerrilla” surface-to-orbit anti ship weaponry. Expect heavy casualties when storming a defended celestial body

>>15611590
depends on the scenario but it will be usually if not always completely unmanned

>>15611564
Not gonna lie, this is kind of retarded. Like they were trying to maximize cost over performance lol

>>15611590
Gigaships

>>15611607
Are those unmanned?

>>15611607
ACES feels like a fever dream

>>15611607
/sfg/ needs a worldbuilding project

>>15611074
Just put a dipole at the Mars-Sun Lagrange point to divert the solar wind and start proding godly R-12 and Halon to induce warming.

>>15611607
These are great but literally one shot and it’s fucking over

>>15611236
Energia is why the West should have dismantled the Russian space program and imported it in the States instead of subsidizing it. A Soviet being paid 65k USD a year in 1993 would not know what to do with it.

>>15611647
active protection systems

What would surface to orbit transportation look like in 150 years or so?
>RAPIER engine
>Nuclear to orbit
>Etc.

>>15611647
easy, we use LK-99 superconductor for infinite energy to create energy shields

>>15611597
I feel it would be easier to shoot a target on the surface from orbit than vice versa, since it will be stationary and lower in the gravity well. Main issue would be logistics since you'd need to transport everything from elsewhere in the solar system, giving a sizable planetside advantage unless the attacking power is able to field a fleet strong enough to win outright. Once that force is achieved then just launch a massive nuclear barrage to destroy the enemy launch facilities, missile sites, military installations, and relevant industry. Then land forces on some undefended/friendly part of the planet and mop up any resistance. Maintaining supply lines could be challenging, since the transport vessels would need to either evade or overpower enemy ships seeking to intercept them which in turn means they can carry less stuff with them.

>>15611590
IRL: Railguns, high maneuver missiles and lasers that double as long range comms. Wish: Particle beam cannons, carrier punches, high maneuver micromissiles, shields that blow up Toronto when they overload and J-Pop jamming all frequen4amgvbcies.

>>15611607
Like the other anon said, won't this get fucked if they get a single shot in one of those exposed tanks?
I does look like a real spacecraft but that's because our spacecrafts aren't designed to deal with weapons.
How would they be shielded?

AHHHH NOOOO ELON IS POLITICAL POSTING AGAIN GET BACK TO ROCKE-

oh wait
based

>>15611637
I wish I write do a hard sci-fi story about space exploration and warfare in the 70's up to 90's but my knowledge of actual spaceflight is limit and I can't think of a resonable alternate history excuse for this.

>>15611695
*I wish I could write a

>>15611698
>>15611695
Just get to writing mate. I’m in the same boat.

>>15611690
yeah, so based
when it's a topic I approve of, he can waste all the time in the world, instead of focusing on rockets/mars
but when it's a topic I dislike, omg what a fucking retard procrastinator

>>15611742
that's the truth
I wonder if in 2003 PayPal people were like ELON WHY ARE YOU WASTING TIME WITH ROCKETS GET BACK TO GLOBAL PAYMENT SYSTEM REEEEE

>>15611747
yes they were a lot.
it's a recurring theme in vances and bergers books

>>15611719
I can't ever start doing anything without figuring out the basics first. I still have no idea what would be a realistic excuse for an early space age.

>>15610896
>11-foot diameter Estes black powder SRBs

>>15611248
I can't wait for the Q&A to absolutely skewer them to hell for the sheer failure of the program thus far.

>>15611546
reddit was always max faggoty no matter how you spin it.

>>15611848
reminder they got ~60% more $ than spacex for the initial contract

>>15611491
Whenever I take the piss I pretend my dick is raptor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOol0ZF0a-U&t=78

>>15610907
One of the most bizzare happenings on the world. You take millions of refugees each year you can air lift all the white safers in one day and give them their own canadian town and no one would notice.

>>15610879
elon can easily debooonk any attempts by critics of saying he is pushing conspiracy theories because of the clips of malema and his supporters singing about mass murder of an ethnic group

>>15611801
WW3 breaks out
Terrorists sieze the station
Corporate wars
Etc.

>>15611719
>>15611801
I also plan on making my own hard scifi worldbuilding project/setting, although I would like to have it be set in the 2080s-2100s timeframe, based on a future where SpaceX first lands men on Mars in 2031 and reaches around 100000 colonists by 2050.

>>15611931
I wanna do stuff with large stations on Mars and the Moon lmao

>>15611607
>disabled by 100 dollar space drones

Shit really blowing up on outer /sci/ rn
The lk99 superconductor theoretically justified. https://twitter.com/Andercot/status/1686215574177841152
Time will tell whether its cope from theoreticians or not

>>15611590
Expendable remote operated thrusters
>Move your unmanned orbital vehicle into proximity of enemy satellite, place expendable thruster onto the satellite with a tiny solid fuel tank
>Thruster drops enemy satellite into atmosphere

>>15612107
lk99 is a scam

>>15612119
I think so too but if it is they just roped in theoretical physicists too

>>15612107
Room temperature superconductors makes (among the many other things they do) terraforming trivial
>superconducting magnetic deflector at Sun-Mars L1
>fusion generators on Mars to heat the caps
>superconducting plasma nozzles on NSWR zubrin drives allow yeeting comets at Mars

>>15612126
would room temperature superconductors make any theoretical forms of ftl even slightly more physically possible?

>colorado gets to keep space command
yikes. its pretty stupid that most of our military space is located in one location.

>>15612132
Other than betting on even more unknown physics, not really.

>>15612132
FTL breaks timetravel rules
All that is above my head like why magnets work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an0M-wcHw5A

>>15612147
fuck ftl. what about suspended animation/cryosleep.

>>15612134
they should surround Cheyenne Mountain with high energy lasers and Aegis Ashore batteries filled with SM-3A, imagine having a spot on Earth actually considerably protected from orbital bombardment

>>15612132
it would let us build larger, cheaper, more powerful particle accelerators to maybe discover new physics that maybe allows FTL, but probably not

>>15612151
There's already multiple different theories of FTL that don't break time travel rules, the problem is requiring a material that pushes outwards on spacetime like normal gravity pushed inwards

>>15611491
This but i imagine i fucking a rocket girl

>>15612152
its just going to be AI in space brudda

>>15612194
surely it will use blockchain, will it?

>>15612107
WE ARE GOING

>>15612194
no it won't. transferring consciousness isn't possible.

>>15612205
>he thinks humans will exist

>>15612227
silence heretic

>>15612107
Yeah no

>>15612288
please never post this idiot's xits here ever again

>>15612290
basically it doesnt matter if you can build high testosterone superconductors. IT DOESNT MATTER, IT'S FANTASY, SO SHUT THE FUCK UP UGGGGHHH

hitler just told me Lk-99 is fake

>>15612314
what i tell ya

>>15612151
No it doesn't

>>15612327
Yeah

whats the first spaceflight improvement we would see with a rtsc?

>>15612432
UFOS become real immediately

>>15612432
Launch loops https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Launch_loop

>>15612314
somebody once told me
superconductors were gonna roll me
koreans cooked one up in a shed
it was looking kinda dumb with their hopes on plumbum
and the shape of an L on their forehead

>>15612448
Fuck off launch loop retard

>>15612432
Fuck all initially. Eventually if you get superconducting electronics thermal management gets easier.

>>15612554
Will it really improve it that much though? Isn't the majority of heat from computing due to gate switching and not resistance?

notice elon keeping eerily silent on the superconductor claims. he is probably incorporating the technology into neuralink, tesla, and spacex as we speak, leveraging dojo xAI to enhance properties and open the gates to paradise. the universe will be ours, the musk future

>>15612548

>>15612432
Spaceflight? None. At best you'd make extremely long maglev "catapults" possible, Ace Combat style

>>15612634
>None

There's quite a few decent applications, the catapult one you mentioned is pretty important. Outside of Earth and Venus it becomes practical and eliminates propellant production dogshit. It would also make plasma magnet schizodrive, if it works, WAY cheaper and easier, you would be a fool not to use it desu. Superconducting batteries mean you can do long term missions in the outer system without nuclear faggotry since you now have a massively superior energy storage medium. Easy magnetic shielding, radiation is now a non-issue. If the magnets make fusion a possibility then there's your torch drive too. I'm sure there are many other applications too.

>>15612602
based
also space fountains and orbital rings

>>15612602
Superconductors of sufficient magnetism kill this meme dead in the water because people will just float their shit into orbit from the magnetic poles. Bonus for being able to launch any size payload of almost any fragility since you just strap magnetic pusher plates to it, float out of atmo and then push hard for velocity.

>>15612594
oh great
more schizoposting

https://blogs.nasa.gov/sunspot/2023/07/28/mission-update-voyager-2-communications-pause/
>Communication with Voyager 2 has been lost when flight control pointed its antenna away from Earth, moving it by 2°.
>Voyager 2 is programmed to reset its orientation multiple times each year to keep its antenna pointing at Earth; the next reset will occur on Oct. 15, which should enable communication to resume.

>>15613434
It's not a communication loss, it's a communications pause. It wasn't an error, it was done inadvertently.

>>15613459
>It wasn't an error, it was done inadvertently.

Average dogshit government program bootlicker

Chandrayaan-3 Mission Update:
>spacecraft healthy.
>perigee burn raised its orbit to 288 km x 369328 km
>next up, maneuver at perilune to achieve Lunar Orbit Injection

>>15612796
>Superconductors of sufficient magnetism kill this meme dead in the water because people will just float their shit into orbit from the magnetic poles.
>The Earth's magnetic north pole is racing towards Siberia—and it is following an "unusual" and historically unprecedented path on its way. Experts told Newsweek that the pole could reach the vast Russian region as soon as the middle of the century.
https://www.newsweek.com/earth-magnetic-north-pole-follows-unusual-path-races-towards-siberia-1789823
Sorry Amerikanskis, we get to dominate the next space age too

>>15613589
why doesn't it just fly a straight line?

Chinabros...

>>15612134

>>15613745

ISRO doesn't have the ability to do a direct transfer trajectory like Apollo or Artemis. This one gains energy by doing multiple elliptical Earth orbits to gain gravity assists.

>>15611637
It'll have to be a couple of parallel projects by small groups, or else the whole project will be a meltdown of memes and shitposting. Maybe the projects are divided by time period and location so they can be plausibility connected but still separate.

>>15613788
Sounds fun. There would also need to be some ground rules to prevent it from cascading into one bit shitpost

>>15613786
You can't get gravity assist like that. The engine is too weak to do a single TLI burn, so it has to build up speed over time.

>>15612288
and just like that, I'm now certain it's not a scam

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/01/planet-pl-lays-off-about-10percent-company-restructures.html

earth imagining being a shit business in general or just macro problems?
there was a geospatial intelligence startup that went bankrupt too
maybe not imagining directly, but you could argue its partially in the same sector

https://spacenews.com/geospatial-intelligence-startup-kleos-space-files-for-bankruptcy/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kleos_Space

>>15613828
>earth imagining being a shit business in general or just macro problems?
Nah it’s probably the latter. People like Maxar have found a comfy niche in the sector—granted they have had time to expand their business model and do more than just imagery. But still. Sounds like a skill issue for planet

>>15613745
Oberth effect
just play ksp

>>15613828
>>15613841
>“[laying everyone off] was taken to increase the company’s focus on its high priority growth opportunities and operational efficiency, which the company believes will further support its long term strategy and path to profitability,” Planet wrote in a securities filing.
Hahahah I love desperate corpo speak. I feel bad for the people who lost their jobs though, that’s never fun

https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/07/end-of-the-line-for-russia-and-ukraines-partnership-in-rocketry/

>>15613860
Does Yuzhmash even exist anymore, like physically?

>Wallops launch
I will take pictures for you guys

>>15613872
thanks bud hope you get some nice shots

>>15613848
I feel like we will live to see everyone switching to English eventually, only to see dialects and distinct languages re-emerge with various social classes, subcultures and professions using their own lingo, ebonics, catchphrases and figures of speech to a point where the same language becomes mutually unintelligible to non-affiliated groups

>>15613786
More like too noob. Russia manages best https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luna_25

Any applications for (if it turns out to be real) LK-99 in spaceflight? Also, the rest of the board is just filled with stormfag /pol/tards stay here if you want actual discussion. Or go shitpost with them lol.

>>15613863
The factory in Dnipro took a few missile hits early on, but most of the physical assets should still be there and intact. The bigger problem would be Kiev trying to conscript anyone that can hold a gun.

>>15614071
wtf do you mean, rest of the board.

>>15614071
Newfag

>>15614071
go back

>>15614095
based

>>15611406
>Elbon
Next thing you know Elbonia is going to be a real place.

>>15614095
This is how I sort as well lol, no need to look through the rest of the catalog

>>15613816
How does Orion's Arm handle itself? They're probably doing something right in regards to project planning across multiple independent worldbuilders.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpODBsu8S2A

>>15614158
Elbonian space program is giant slingshot, offshoot of their aerospace industry

where can I read musks shitposts if I don't have a twatter account?

>>15614095
yes, i just use this link.
https://boards.4channel.org/sci/sfg

>>15614222
make an account stupid. You had to make an account to post here on 4channel, why the hesitation for X?

>>15614222
Use this link >>15614233

>>15614222
https://nitter.net/elonmusk

>>15614222
Here, anon will inevitably post them

>>15613816
>>15613788
You can't organize anything on 4chan. It will be full of literal faggots and retards.

Take whatever your idea is somewhere else and try to organize it there by yourself without advertising it there.

This isn't an attempt to politely tell you to fuck off. It's a warning that if you don't do that your project will not only fail having accomplished nothing, but you will meet some of the very worst of humanity in the process (schizos, tripfags, avatarfags, furfags, etc.).

>>15613788
>>15613816
You can't organize anything on 4chan. It will be full of literal faggots and retards.

Take whatever your idea is somewhere else and try to organize it there by yourself without advertising it here.

This isn't an attempt to politely tell you to fuck off. It's a warning that if you don't do that your project will not only fail having accomplished nothing, but you will meet some of the very worst of humanity in the process (schizos, tripfags, avatarfags, furfags, etc.).

Mars is a living world

>>15611288
lack of brains, money, industry, talent, engines. Effectively what it lacks is a functioning space program which can only be created in functional state. Snow monkistan is certainly not it, just like africa has no serious space program anywhere

>>15611674
>shields that blow up Toronto when they overload
I fucking love how hard old macross went sometimes.

>>15611347
Why did NASA take the cool raceway livery off of the SLS SRBs. I love the worm but it looks like an afterthought

>>15614469
The ICPS is that underpowered.

>>15614480
They should just use a decal if paint is that heavy

>>15614222
make an account
you dont need a phone number anymore and they accepted my throwaway email

It’s official gentlemen; Luna-25 has been mated with its upper stage in preparation for an Aug 11 launch.
(The Fregat upper stage WILL explode and end the mission)

t-7 days to Boeing canceling shitliner

>>15614631
>(The Fregat upper stage WILL explode and end the mission)
based pockocmoc

EARTHERS

What happens when the first city on Mars is named X?

>>15614926
earthers will seethe

>>15614926
don't you mean the first city on X?

>>15614941
Can SpaceX change the name of a planet to X? Imagine the seething

>>15614941
>The Elon discovers Planet X by the simple expedient of renaming Mars.
sounds good to me

>>15614944
if Elon gets the first earthly humans on the red planet I think he's won the right to take the naming rights away from the romans

>>15614947
kek

>>15614944
If they control an independent, self-sufficient colony, who is going to stop them?

>>15614990
Redditors

>>15614990
To be independent, you need a military.

It all falls on /sfg/ in the end

>>15614999
They will have history’s greatest interplanetary ballistic missile, I wouldn’t be too worried about it

>>15615001
somewhere such as...OUTER SPACE

>>15615001
Spinchads, it's time.

McCulloch finally got fired for spending all his time on QI instead of his actual job (oceanography).

>>15615244
worth it

"Shifting to the social aspects of the project, it's nice to see that the film doesn't try to change the historical reality of World War II America to fit today's diversity, equity, and inclusion agenda"

From Zubrin's Barbie review.

>>15615173
It has always been our time

>>15615272
kinda based (fucking your own students)

>>15614926
Someone posts an x about it on X, then they drive somewhere in their RoadX through a tunnel dug by SoilX

>>15615001
Can't wait for the future where high capacity batteries are charged in space and shipped back to Earth

>>15615244
Mad Mike will roast them during his Nobel Laureate speech
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOzNsQyamvk

>>15615264
How is WW2 related to Barbie?

>>15615325
Remain silent, goy.

>>15615289
delusional

Hop wen?

>>15615409
remember when socialist twitter was all over musk giving that quick look?
they wanted to imagine him seething so bad.

>>15615415
>ELON IS SO MAD OMG HAHAH HE DOESNT KNOW WHAT’S GOING ON
Yeah I remember. Kek i’m pretty sure every single soul in that room expected it to blow up, it was just a matter of when

>>15613434
Go over to /sci/ and see the golems day after day performing the most retarded mental gymnastics whenever a new delay, blunder, or rocket launch postponement is announced. These golems just eat right up. This has been going on for years now, decades really if you account for the boomers and gen x golems who were sold these space dreams in the 70's and 80's. Those idiots too believed they would be jetting through the galaxy at any moment now in their own personal spaceshipt with their robowaifus meeting all kinds of exotic aliens along the way. They too were sure it would happen in their lifetime. Many of those losers are still alive today and the only thing they got was CGI and studio props like the Star Wars franchise and Star Trek.

In reality it's just bread and circuses to keep the golems waging for a science fiction future that doesn't exist because the earth is flat and stationary.

>>15613434
>nobody posted it
they received a heartbeat confirming vehicle is fine.
https://twitter.com/NASAVoyager/status/1686391051630821378

Doug returns.

>>15610860
Lmao fuckyou Shellby, you cancerous, greedy boomer

>>15615325
Come on, Barbie, let's go party
Ah, ah, ah, yeah
Come on, Barbie, let's go party
Ooh woah, ooh woah
Come on, Barbie, let's go party
Ah, ah, ah, yeah
Come on, Barbie, let's go party
Ooh woah, ooh woah

>>15614446
you laugh at him but those niggas are more capable at building rockets than 4ASS and that's saying something about our society

>>15611165
Beautiful Desolation.

>>15615532
Yeah maybe if you’re only there for a few nights, a month max. I don’t think anyone is going to buy Buzz’s idea when they’ve been stuck in the same five modules on Mars for 35 years with only eleven total minutes of EVA time outside of the habitat hahah

>>15615564
yeah meds

>>15615264
surely you meant Oppenheimer

>>15615611
Barbenheimer.

>>15615500
please don't post literal war criminals in this thread

>>15615670
make me

https://www.space.com/international-space-station-resupply-ng-19-antares-launch
> Watch an Antares rocket launch cargo to the International Space Station tonight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21X5lGlDOfg

should be in 4h 10min if I'm not mistaken

>>15615670
Two nukes and firebombing of Japan was and always will be justified, and I’m tired of pretending it’s not

>>15615710
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2023/08/antares-230-farewell-launch/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0PQdwLySAQ

NSF stream starts in 3h

>>15615710
>>15615744
Wow the Antares 230+ is retiring. I sure am gonna miss that rocket.

>Antares 300 series uses firefly tech
>firefly's record so far is one failure and one partial failure
>they're putting a Cygnus on it for the maiden flight, no test flight
wat

A SINGLE F9 BOOSTER (b1058) HAS LAUNCHED AS MANY TIMES AS THERE HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL ANTARES LAUNCHES (16). And Antares has been flying since 2013.

Let THAT sink in.

>>15615776
Starship was an even bigger failure than anything firefly did

>>15615796

>>15615819
seethe tranny.
firefly hasn't flown for a year and the moster powerful rocket in history will beat that cadence on its second attempt.

>Dragon XL
>I am forgotten

>>15615838
They'll just roll a completed one out one day.
Its contracted so will happen just like the extended fairing we saw yesterday.

>>15615796
I think Antares is a lot like Starliner. It could have been a lot more successful than it was, but its managers never saw any need to do more than the bare minimum and only were interested in pursuing high value government contracts. They could have purchased more Russo-Ukrainian hardware and tried to complete for something, but why bother? Why bother going after private spaceflight missions when you've got a part of commercial crew for the ISS? Why bother trying to compete with Soyuz for commercial launches when you've got a part of COTS? Lack of ambition all around.

>>15615831
yes, starship will beat their failure rate and take the crown for most failures

>>15615858
that's a lot of tranny seethe

funny how the most powerful rocket in history causes such a short circuit meltdown with the redditor seethers

>>15615849
I thought DXL was cancelled

>>15615884
idk. they're gonna resupply gateway with d2?

>>15615884
You thought wrong.

>>15615890
but starship will exist

>>15615865
my emotions are in check. yours however, well, lets just say it remains to be seen

>>15614941
you will visit X city in planet X and you will be happx

>>15615927
how many Xs a month is rent?

>>15611225
>>15611236
>>15611237
Never forget what they took from you...

>>15615941
communism?

>>15615857
I think they already got as many NK-33s as they were going to get. Maybe if they acquire Firefly they have a path to reuse, but they'll probably keep selling solids for government contracts to keep the ICBM plants running.

>>15615849
>>15615884
It’s not cancelled. But SX were in talks a year ago about modifying the contract to just use Starship
Take this with a grain of salt though I saw this on twitter and it wasn’t from berger or sheetz or foust

>>15611255
And how exactly are we gonna build memefolders in space?

nice payload adapter bro

>>15615982
Hoping it fails for peak comedy but also kind of hoping it works so the US gets spooked into accelerating

>>15615982
soul...

>>15615670
no

>>15616020
wild bill is aging like shit. Meanwhile black don’t crack lol
>>15616002
A failure would pretty much confirm chink superiority over pockocmoc in my book

>>15615927
Heck yeah, I'd be happy. Imagine living on another planet in this lifetime.

HOLY FUCK. Its like one of the dream come true.

>>15615958
They switched over to RD-181s after the Antares 100 got retired, so hardware stockpiles wouldn't have been a limitation. First stage structures shouldn't have been an issue either since Yuzhmash wasn't really doing anything else at the time.

Rate my Starship timeline, bros
>2023
2 launches - none make it to orbit
>2024
5 launches - Final 2 make it to orbit. Demo of in-space propellant storage with depot prototype
>2025
8 Launches - First successful recovery of a Starship this year.
>2026
12 Launches - First propellant transfer in-orbit. First launches from Kennedy
ALSO - Artemis III flies this year, but only to NRHO and not to the surface
>2027
18 Launches - Artemis HLS Demo with expendable tankers due to low flight rate
>2028
24 Launches - Artemis IV using expendable tankers to make up for slightly lower flight rate
>2029
30 Launches - First mars-bound EDL test starships.
>2030
38 Launches - Artemis V HLS. Starship testing for crew launches to LEO
>2031
44 Launches. Artemis VI HLS mission. More EDL tests on mars
>2032
48 Launches. Artemis Base Hardware to the lunar surface.
First crew to LEO and back on Starship
>2033
52 Launches - Artemis VII HLS. Regular crew to LEO and back on Starship.
More EDL tests on Mars with “real” payloads
>2034
66 Launches. Same deal, really
>2035
72 Launches. Final set of EDL demo tests on mars.
>2036
80 Launches. Same deal, again
>2037
88 Launches. First ISRU and Pre-Hab equipment to Mars.
>2038
96 Launches. Same deal, really.
>2039
104 Launches. First humans on Mars.

>>15616081
Too fucking long and specific for me to say, but I do like your first two estimates.
Not sure if the whole “5 flights a year” thing or whatever still exists though

>>15616087
It’s honestly all speculation last 2028 so don’t take that seriously. I’m guessing 5 flights maybe in 2024 based on how pad turnaround was between IFT-1 and IFT-2. It seems possible SpaceX gets it to about 2 months between flights very soon

>>15616095
Honestly the limiting factor is licensing. Within 2 years I could see SX [theoretically] being able to fly a stack once a week if they wanted to.

>>15616081
Nonsense. 2023 sounds believable, not not anymore.

How the FUCK is spacex going to test everything and be ready in time for Artemis 3?

>>15616115
NET 2028 probably. But nasa is in a hard spot because Artemis IV won’t happen any time soon (ML-2 won’t be ready before 2028). So nasa might need to either wait till after 2028 for Artemis IV to be built, or keep the Artemis III Orion and SLS in storage until starship is ready

>>15616115
As long as pads dont explode, they'll launch as much as needed.

L2 reports that Booster 9 static fire should come this week

>>15616115
How is *any* hardware for ArtIII going to be ready in time? The timetables are a complete joke and it’s going to get pushed back not only because of HLS but because of a million other things like space suits, EUS, possibly gateway, SLS hardware slips, probably a few unforeseen problems with Orion,

This is how grim the situation is:
Imagine rolling up to NASA right after Apollo 4 and suggesting the whole program be scrapped and started over? People would call you a commie retard
Yet Artemis is so gay we already have the first mission under our belt and we would save time and money by just canceling SLS and starting Artemis over from scratch

>>15615944
Energia.

>>15616115
They will just delay Arteemis 3.

I work in marketing at Kennedy. Bill Nelson has instructed us to start a new Artemis advertisement campaign with the slogan “Our Team; Us” (as a pun)
None of us know how the hell to approach this

>Debut of Soyuz-5 pushed back to 2025

Man, they're struggling aren't they?

>>15616183
At least khazakstan said they are fine with ground equipment for it, right? Silver lining
Because Lord knows Vostochny will never be ready

>>15616183
How do Russian space fans cope with this shit goddamn.

>>15615289
Expensive and inefficient af, just like planned

>>15616180
You know the rules, photo with a timestamp

>>15616180
>I work in marketing at Kennedy. Bill Nelson has instructed us to start a new Artemis advertisement campaign with the slogan “Our Team; Us” (as a pun)
>None of us know how the hell to approach this
Use this picture and write the slogan in Fraktur with some spurious umlauts. They'll back off pretty quickly.

>>15616197
Go lurk on dvach; the answer is “not well”

>>15616115
Nelson already said: III is not happening in 2025.
> Artemis 3 will launch no earlier than December 2025 and will carry the first woman and first person of color to the lunar surface

stephen clark's articles suck. surface level garbage.

>>15616158
Because back then we had no alternative and NASA was determined to win the space race, but times have changed.
We have had alternative to the megumin rocket for almost two decades. In early 2000s ULA came up with their orbital depots but it wasn't pursued. Now we have Falcon Heavy, and soon Starship and NASA is also ignoring it.

I wonder, do they even realize that they're about to get overtaken by China if they decide to stick with SLS?

>>15616220
What is meant by “person of color”

>>15616220
It’s not even a HLS thing. Orion needs 26 months between flights right now. Don’t ask for a source because I forgot lol

>>15616228
The US won’t be overtaken because of Starship. But part of me wishes HLS went to BO and never Starship because America needs a fucking wake up call
Imagine if NASA was stuck with the old BO lander design right now. No falcon heavies for gateway, no SS lander, only delays and shitty rockets. If Musk woke up one day and said “ehhh fuck all this were shutting it down in two years” NASA would be absolutely fucked

>>15616235
depends on who you ask. for some it means any non pure white person. for others it means only the blackest africans.

>>15616225
yeah, a lot of text but not that much interesting info usually
maybe they will improve with experience

>>15616273
I’m asking NASA’s definition. They’re using this term very liberally but to my knowledge they haven’t defined what they mean by it

>>15616249
I cannot wait until all the boomers are gone from government.

EARTHER (derogatory)

>>15616249
NASA wouldn’t even have LEO capability right now if Musk threw in the towel a few years ago. Oh Starliner will be ready soon? No it won’t be

>>15616281
more than likely any person with at least 50% black in them

>>15616249
Starship is great, but for now it is only used as a lander and we need an alternative to SLS/Orion, that would get astronauts from the surface of Earth to NRHO. Crewed Starship is too far away.

>>15616228
Long March 10 isn't likely to be able to overtake SLS by all that much. They've both capable of performing similar missions, but LM-10 has to fly four times in a year before it can outpace SLS, and that's asking more than can reasonably handle. By the time China is set up to do more than one lunar mission per year Long March 9 might be coming on-line.

>>15616328
Depending on how much delta-v HLS has in the tanks it might be possible to load crew into it off of Dragon in LEO and have it fly to the lunar surface and back from there. Even if it can't handle that you could just replace Orion (and Gateway) with a second Lunar liner variant of starship.

Or you could just take the pussy way out and launch a modified dragon on a Falcon Heavy.

>>15615962
Gateway has a max docking mass limit of 14t right? DXL is likely over the limit. Starship's dry mass alone is 100t.

>>15613434
>>15615472
When the new DEI hire nearly ruins a decades long journey.

>>15616372
Nah I guarantee you it’s like three or four old white boomer dinosaurs doing 99% of the work

>>15615884
https://spacenews.com/nasa-plans-to-start-work-this-year-on-first-gateway-logistics-mission/

It was below the radar because it is not needed until Gateway exists.

>>15615796
Antares had the promise of filling the medium-lift slot left vacant when Delta-II retired, and that had over a hundred launches. But it ended up only doing at most a couple launches a year for a single government contract. Very disappointing.

>>15614269
does nitter work again now?

>>15616225
Juicyness hot takes missing. Berger would trigger the SLS crowd LMAO

>>15616235
A clown obviously. They just need a special spacesuit with large boots

>>15615627

for me it’s rockot