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Because it's now proven a fraud. Time to go back, tourists.

>> No.15594158
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15594158

Based Pavek was right all along.

>> No.15594166

>>15594149
>t.tourist

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>>15594149
>literal who on twitter says this looks like diamagnetism
Wow that's so cool
I guess that means you're ready to back up your claim by replicating the experiment and proving this is all bullshit, right?
You wouldn't just say things on the internet for attention, right?

>> No.15594173

>>15594168
i replicated it this morning using ~$0.12 of materials and the exact same after-market oven they used, and as it turns out, it doesn't work.

>> No.15594181

>>15594158
>Mongoloid 3rd world slavshit spreading homophobia and anti-science disinformation

Why am I not surprised?

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Thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8CZXpAM4e

>> No.15594202

>>15594149
Scientists are now taking correlation as proof? That's just sad.

>> No.15594206
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How is this not unironically game over?

>> No.15594214

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8CZXpAM4e0

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>>15594206

>> No.15594274

oh my science!!!!!!! another twitter literally WHO posted?!?!!?!? TIME TO MAKE A THREAD!

>> No.15594282

>>15594149
>hmm, something similar to this happened before
>so it's a proven fraud
???

>> No.15594312

I know a dude who did his PhD in Electronic Engineering on the topic of superconductors.

He told me it's the easiest route to a PhD, without any real physics education, because you just have to produce some, literally any, result in lab.

>> No.15594319

>there was something similar so it's not real
>the paper is shitty so it's not real
>their explanation is shitty so it's not real
why is everyone so impatient?
just wait like 4 days and i'm sure we'll have dozens of attempted reproductions
there's really no reason to speculate so hard in either direction

>> No.15594604

>>15594319
>I'm just sure that some rando who doesn't even know what he's talking about has achieved what scientists in the field have failed at for over fifty years now.
No offense, but you are an idiot.
We don't have the time to check out every bullshit claim by some nobody who yet again says he's invented perpetual motion.

>> No.15594913

>>15594604
>No offense, but you are an idiot.
>We don't have the time to check out every bullshit claim by some nobody who yet again says he's invented perpetual motion.
as if you're doing anything. You have and can do nothing but wait. You're regurgitating what others have said to appear smart. There is no evidence that their paper is falsified. It could be fake and it could be not. A super conductor in a non-commercial available state is a pretty false equivalence for perpetual motion.

In the words of an animu girl:
>stupid faggot, little cock sucker.

>> No.15594926

>>15594149
so whats the point of faking this?

>> No.15594967

>>15594926
for the lols

>> No.15594989

superconducting kimchi

>> No.15595346

>>15594604
>WE don't have time
lmao sure

>> No.15595382

>>15594926
it's not fake. the regular conductor industry is covering it up.

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It's over

>> No.15595405

>>15594604
historically randos invent shit all the time. the first plane was invented by bicycle salesmen who didn't have a high school diploma

>> No.15595414

>>15595405
Santos Dumont wasn't a bike salesman.

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>>15594206

>> No.15595418

>>15595414
brazilian hue spotted

>> No.15595672

>>15595416
How do I break it to him that many non-superconductors exhibit discontinuities in specific heat capacity?

>> No.15597232

>>15595416
lmao the first graph is literally the lambda point transition of Helium-4

>> No.15597248

>>15594149
>Jul 26

>> No.15597251

>>15595672
example?

>> No.15597257

>>15595382
fugging knew it, big conductor always does this

>> No.15597258

>>15595416
If only the graphs were fucking legible

>> No.15597284
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seems like hirsch thinks its real?

https://jorge.physics.ucsd.edu/jh.html

>> No.15597290

>>15597284
>>15597284
>>15597284
What am I looking at?

>> No.15597308

>>15597290
>Jorge E. Hirsch

>Hirsch's scientific work is involved with understanding collective, large-scale properties of solids, such as superconductivity and ferromagnetism, based on explanations starting from small-scale mechanisms. Hirsch's most significant work would be his attempt to unify theories of superconductivity with his theory of hole superconductivity which suggests pairing of electron holes that would lead to high temperature superconductivity as opposed to pairing of electrons in conventional BCS theory.[5] He believes that there is a single mechanism of superconductivity for all materials that explains the Meissner effect and differs from the conventional mechanism in several fundamental aspects.

he left this comment on the sciencecast video

>"Give me a foothold and I will turn the Earth"
>https://jorge.physics.ucsd.edu/roomtlevitation.mov

13 hours ago. an archimedes quote and a link to the video. it either means he thinks we are watching two magnets interact, or it's a diamagnetic solid, or it's a room temperature superconductor exhibiting the meisner effect.

he called the video roomtlevitation. i assume his UC lab replicated the LK-99 fabrication. it would be the world's first replication? dunno, i don't have social media so i can't check his twitter.

>> No.15597320

>>15597284
>>15597308
you are completely missing the point. The video he posted was just a bit of aluminum foil with a "hidden" magnet. He's implying that there's a small magnet glued on the "levitating" object that's obstructed from view. He's ridiculing it.

>> No.15597321

>>15597308
>>15597284
supreme cope
you're reading a lot into insane ramblings

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>>15594158
Truly one of the comments of all time

>> No.15597327

>>15597308
That's just sarcasm

>> No.15597329

>>15597322
God I hope this turns out to be legit just so this comment can go down in history

>> No.15597330

>>15597320
i gave that as an option.
>he thinks we are watching two magnets interact

why didn't he label his video twomagnets? the archimedes quote is about levers, why is he being a cryptic faggot about it.

>> No.15597332

>>15597329
Cheering for scientific fraud just to own normies
Just /sci/ thigns

>> No.15597336

>>15594206
isn't this a cryptobro who was an AI expert last week?

>> No.15597352

>>15594206
Debye temperature characteristics of superconductors are empirical.

>> No.15597410

>>15595416
we're so back

>> No.15597524

>>15597336
He's now a condensed matter specialist.

>> No.15597828

>>15594149
>then disappeared
oh vey

>> No.15597892

>>15597251
>example?
Um, EVERY SINGLE THING IN THE WORLD THAT GOES THROUGH A PHASE CHANGE?
I mean you do actually know that liquid water and ice do not have the same heat capacity, right?

>> No.15597894

>>15597892
LK-99 isn't going through a phase change though

>> No.15597897

>>15597232
>lmao the first graph is literally the lambda point transition of Helium-4
And the two don't even look alike!
I mean, why did they seem to think it was necessary to remind us what the lambda-point looks like?
These guys seem like total amateurs.

>> No.15597900

>>15597894
>LK-99 isn't going through a phase change though
How due you know? Steel goes through several phase changes as you heat it up from alpha-phase.
Solid, liquid, and gas aren't the only three phases. There are many more.

>> No.15597901

>>15597900
*do

>> No.15597954

>>15597900
Phase change at room temp is itself a big discovery

>> No.15597983

CONFIRMATION: IT'S REAL

>> No.15597986

>>15597983
no it's not gook shill

>> No.15598003

>>15597954
>Phase change at room temp is itself a big discovery
Um, the phase change of alpha-tin to beta-tin happens at 13.2°C, and that's just the first thing that happened to pop into my head.
There are probably THOUSANDS of materials that undergo phase changes around room temperature. It doesn't make them superconductors.

>> No.15598025

https://youtu.be/XcYP5XP0Rlk

>> No.15598031

>>15597986
I am literally levitating at this very moment.

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>>15594149
I just woke up. It's real.

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I just fell asleep. It's fake.

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>>15597257
>big conductor
Political correctness gone mad

>> No.15598132

Real if fake

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>replicating the results is raysis

Why are Ivy League idiots like this

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>>15597284
Anon this is some timecube shit.

>> No.15598250

>>15598225
>Oh yeah? You want to replicate this superconductor? Replicate every other paper too or you're racist.
People like this aren't worth taking seriously

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>>15594149
>there have been previous claims, which later turned out to be false, therefore this claim is also false
???

>> No.15598272

>>15594312
>because you just have to produce some, literally any, result in lab
That's all PhDs nowadays

>> No.15598280

>>15594312
.. Yes but this is not "any" superconductor, you do realize that right

>> No.15598304

Chink experiment results W H E N?
I don't want this to be over, bros...

>> No.15598306

My prediction:
No-one has acted fraudulently (aside from some shady drama related to who gets credit, apparently).
The basic instructions in that incomplete arxiv paper will be somewhat inadequate and early attempts will fail, but reproduction will eventually succeed.
The material will behave strangely and be difficult to measure. It will continue to display some signs of superconductivity and not others. It will be hard to work with.
No consensus will be reached about whether it's a superconductor or not.
Significant funding will be made available for research into similar materials.

>> No.15598307

>>15598304
>he fell for chink quora larp
LOL

>> No.15598310

>>15598225
Women should stay in the kitchen

>> No.15598333

>>15598103
>devisut
???

>> No.15598354

>>15598251
It's called regression

>> No.15598356

https://www.zhihu.com/question/613850973/answer/3136029641
Professional that debunked the last superconductor scam just completely destroyed this paper. Said it's so unprofessional and obviously a joke.
It's so fucking over.

>> No.15598362

When can we expect to see the arrest video?

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>>15598356

>> No.15598379

>>15598356
someone should tell the chink there's like three papers
gooks want their nobel

>> No.15598377

Over status?

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>>15598376

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>>15598384

>> No.15598390

>>15598377
Ask again tomorrow.

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>>15598377

>> No.15598399

>>15598376
>>15598384
>>15598388
he mad

>> No.15598404

>>15598376
he is fundamentally misunderstanding how LK99 supposedly works lol

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>>15598388

>> No.15598412

>>15598399
He's a physicist theorycel. The future will be determined by experimental chemists, alchemists, who make wonderous things and figure it out later. That's what's happening here. Their napkin math is probably bullshit. Doesn't matter, the rock floats.

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>>15598409

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>>15598419

>> No.15598427

>>15598306
Shouldn’t it be simple to see if it’s a superconductor or not? I mean I’m obviously not an expert but if it can conduct current with minimal resistance then surely that must be enough, no?

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>>15598426
he does seem a bit heated

>> No.15598430

>>15598376
>>15598384
>>15598388
this guy is wrong and I could explain why but post-vax mental malaise leaves me too unmotivated to do so
let him convince people and everyone just give up it doesn't matter anyway, we'll all die tomorrow or tomorrow's tomorrow

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>>15598412
Based and expirementpilled. Chalkboardcels on suicide watch.

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>>15598428
lol, XRD peaks can certainly be "lumpy" especially from raw data
he is starting to lose me on credibility here

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>>15598435

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>>15598442

>> No.15598447

>>15598427
their issue is that they can't create a sample per enough
they argue that there are portions of the material where the arrangement is perfect and superconductivity is happening
it exhibits many of the signs of superconductivity
so they need a better sample and someone should help them with that by reproducing it
they've laid out their hypothesis and the steps to reproduction while also shitting on physicists because they "don't know shit about finding a superconductor" and "chemist dicks are statistically 5 inches longer than average" basically

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>>15598446
> bejing
kek

>> No.15598452

>>15598447
Oh I think I get it now, thanks for explaining it like that.

>> No.15598454

>>15598447
>per enough
pure enough

>> No.15598472

>>15598434
The autist theorizer is afraid and confused by the Chad schizo experimenter
>Nooo stop that! You are invalidating all my equations I made up!!! NOOOO ITS NOT SUPPOSED TO WORK THAT WAY YOURE WRONG YOURE WRONG WHY ARE YOU DOING THAT ITS NOT GOING TO WORK STOP THAT RIGHT NOW!!!!

>It failed again? Splendid. I have a good feeling about this next one.

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https://twitter.com/8teAPi/status/1684964085010677760

>> No.15598482

>>15598412
that is basically what is happening currently in ML
there is no good theory for why deep learning works so well, but it just keeps working

>> No.15598492

>>15598482
>As an AI language model, I can not create a room temperature IQ superconductor

>> No.15598506 [DELETED] 

>>15598356
>>15598376
>>15598384
>>15598388
>>15598409
>>15598419
>>15598426
>>15598428
>>15598435
>>15598442
>>15598446
>>15598451
>ching chong bing bong ding dong
Don't care. Didn't read.

>> No.15598536

>>15598492
well, it does work, to the extent that these are just giant probabilistic calculators based on a corpus, but they restrict it behind fine tuning and classifiers to get rid of the badthink and badspeak so that uppity journalists don't shriek

>> No.15598543
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15598543

i asked pi.ai about potential superconductor gadgets
it came up with a "quantum compass"
use quantum entanglement to instantly communicate with a network of ground stations
these ground stations would be connected to a database of the earths gravitation field

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>>15598547

>> No.15598558

>>15598225
>planefag
kek

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https://twitter.com/condensed_the/status/1684958794109825025

absolutely seething lmao

>> No.15598614

>>15598554
doesn't the gravitational field of the earth change on a daily basis? you know, cuz of the flowing core and all

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>>15598608

>> No.15598624

>>15598614
There is no molten volcano shit under the flat plane retard.

>> No.15598626

>>15594173
>I replicated it, doesn't work
Cool can we see your setup, process, tests, and result on video?
>No
Sad. Many such cases. Reported for trolling.

>> No.15598630

>>15598614
The change is very small and slow, the navy has been using gravitational filed for submarine navigation for many decades.

>> No.15598632
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> This is a direct tutorial on how real research is never done, NEVER, doing research is slow/incremental/detailed/frustrating/boring, and never makes for a good ''Hell's Physics" show on TV

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>>15598608

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>>15598608
>physicist seething because the results don't match theoretical models on a whiteboard
today is a good day

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>>15598608
>doing research is slow/incremental/detailed/frustrating/boring
>you can't just discover a random substance with superconductivity without figuring out how it works
>b-because...because it's not right...!

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>>15598636

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>>15598608
Holy fucking seethe. The story is the same throughout history. Schizo occult experimenters will always btfo amd subjugate theorycel pencilpushing psueds.

pic related. It's Keplers schizo shit. He revolutionariesd astronomy for the sole purpose of being schizo more accurately

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>>15598646
https://twitter.com/QuantumQelly/status/1684974136811286528

So I guess its one person running the account and not a shared account

>> No.15598656

>>15598608
>>15598636
>nooo you can't have lead outside of a laboratory!!!
Goddamn, zoomers are so retarded they actually think lead has been banned. Lead has innumerable commercial and industrial applications to this very day, but they think lead in a ROOM TEMPERATURE SUPER CONDUCTOR is a showstopper. Utterly sheltered, completely naive and divorced from reality. We should legally forbid people from doing to university before they're 30, to make sure people get some life experience and don't go through college completely sheltered from reality.

>> No.15598661

>>15598656
Apparently it's a tenured professor, not a zoomer.>>15598655

>> No.15598663

>>15598661
Zoomers are tenured professors now.

>> No.15598665

>>15598636
>NOOOO STOP WORKING WITH LEAD YOU NEED A LICENSE ITS TOO DANGEROUS YOU NEED TO BE CERTIFIED AND USE AN APPROVED LAB AND AND AND
Lmao, had this dude never heard of hardcasting for handloads?

>> No.15598666

>>15598663
The oldest zoomer is 27.

>> No.15598670

>>15598665
Never heard of sports fishing, or even batteries.

>> No.15598674

I hope these sheltered morons never go to the dentist, because they may find themselves in a room COMPLETELY ENCLOSED IN LEAD AAAAAAAAAAAAA NOOOO NOT THE LEAD MY HECKIN BRAIN CELLERINOS ARE GOING TO DIE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.15598684

>>15595416
>>15595672
Alex Kaplan is a grifting Jew peddling his coffee wares. Claims to have a Bachelor's in physics. He doesn't know what he is talking about. Zero reading comprehension, the figure in the paper states it's Helium-4.

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>> No.15598696

The plot to avatar is ruined forever

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15598702

Replicationbros...
It's over...

>> No.15598706

>>15598655
Theyre space engineer they probably know about not breathing fumes directly. You have to cool it first

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>>15598693

>> No.15598714

>>15598702
why are the poles keeping these materials hostage
fucking invade them

>> No.15598716

>>15598702
LEAD REGULATION CHADS WERE BACK

>> No.15598720

Any actual news on this?
It's been 4 days. surely someone somewhere should have rushed it out by now?

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>>15598702
Seriously why does /sci/ of all places care about these amateur attentionwhores? By the time he accomplishes anything all normal labs will have given their results and there will be conclusions long before.

>> No.15598731

>>15598725
Can I watch those labs screaming
>FUUUCKKKK
on Twitch?

>> No.15598737

>>15598725
do you think it likely the normal labs will livestream the stuff floating?
why do you hate floating rocks?

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>>15598737
>why do you hate floating rocks?

>> No.15598750

>>15598725
All the scientists at "normal labs" are mired in bureaucracy.

>> No.15598753

>>15598737
Doubt it is that easy. They wasted 20 years in the lab.

>> No.15598781

>>15598753
they wasted 20 years developing a way to make it in 3 days

>> No.15598785

>>15598720
>Still no replication
How many days has it been stuck at no replication? 3 days? 4 days?

>> No.15598790

>>15598785
Part of the procedure is ~72 hours of cooking in a furnace, so that isn't really surprising.

>> No.15598791

>>15598785
shit framing. did anyone come out as having created the material AND it doesn't work as expected?

>> No.15598794

>>15598785
Please tell me you aren't this dumb.

>> No.15598797

>>15598785
>>>/pol/

>> No.15598804

>>15598702
>polacks sabotaging one of the greatest discoveries of the century
THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!

>> No.15598806

>>15598753
>>15598781
maybe they needed 20 years to make a company, research lab and a patent so they'll actually profit from it, instead of publishing some vague findings and that other team ends getting the fame and money

>> No.15598817

>>15598785
I just noticed that you're a namefag. So you actually are that dumb. Filtered.

>> No.15598818

>>15598785
Yes, you learned about the concept of "replication" 4 days ago.

>> No.15598819

>>15598790
>>15598791
>>15598794
>>15598817
newfags go back

>> No.15598820

>>15598785
missed you Gary

>> No.15598823

>>15598819
>hurr durr why hasn't the thing that takes several days not already happened in only a few days
Blow your brains out, worthless retard.

>> No.15598832

>>15598636
now THIS is some copium
This RT superconductor has got to be real so this tantrum is immortalized in history

>> No.15598835

>>15598506
seething gook detected

>> No.15598856

>>15594206
Well, he writes
>I have bad news
and then proceed to disclose he has an OPINION. Like wow, man. If LK-99 flies, his career will be well shredded.

>> No.15598861

>>15598856
/k/ope

>> No.15598876

Replication attempto doko?

>> No.15598877
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>15598861
kobot online again ꒰⁎˃ ॢꇴ ॢ˂⁎꒱ෆ⃛

>> No.15598973

>>15594319

if it's from indians, you can be 98% sure the result is fake.
If it's from south koreans, you can be 92% sure the result is fake.

>> No.15599034

>>15598973
Koreans are Indian rape babies. They are poo mutts.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heo_Hwang-ok
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dravido-Korean_languages

>> No.15599074

we're over
it's back

>> No.15599078
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15599078

What if the secret to making it work is humbleness, love and compassion?

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>>15599078

>> No.15599095

>>15598785
It's supposed to be "4 days? 5 days?" You're getting rusty Gary

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>>15599078

>> No.15599118
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>>15599078

>> No.15599120

>>15598835
IMPLESSIVE

>> No.15599128
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15599128

https://twitter.com/andrewmccalip/status/1685014885099528194

>> No.15599131

>>15599128
>already coping for failure
grim

>> No.15599139

>>15598785
Based Gary

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15599143

https://twitter.com/alexkaplan0/status/1684935072481214465

a bit old news, but coffeeman has some comments

>> No.15599145

>>15599131
There's more variables to this than specified in the paper, don't act like it's some Minecraft recipe where you just plug the ingredients into a vacuum forge and it pops out an ingot of LK99.
I expect several repro efforts to claim it's bunk due to things like failing to match heat ramp rates and thus getting a product that doesn't match what the authors got.

>> No.15599156

>>15599139
>Based Gary
>>15598820
>missed you Gary

That's not THE Gary. But we'll see how he does :-)

(Gary never left & he love you too :-)

>> No.15599157

>>15599143

Korean bugpeople backstabbing each other and jockeying for position? What a surprise

>> No.15599182

>>15599128
Space company can not afford giving all their employees their own laptop?

>> No.15599186

>>15599143
All this guy does is repost comments without credit. He can not even read or speak Korean.

>> No.15599216
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15599216

https://twitter.com/zupet0/status/1684938195325333504

https://namu.wiki/w/LK-99

>> No.15599243

>>15599216
So basically by forcefully publishing his preprint Kwon shat all over Lee's and Kim's professor's dying wish ?
Man this just keeps sounding more and more like a plot of some movie

>> No.15599255

>>15599243
I would do that once I realize I'm not smart enough to do whatever my teacher thought I would. In the end, Kwon is getting the nation's first Nobel and not his teacher which is a better deal that he is ever going to get if the guy was alive.

>> No.15599261

>>15599243
I don't think Kwon even knew the professor, wasn't he some random dude that just came in as a CTO of the company or something

>> No.15599264

>>15599261
>CTO
You mean the guy that does all the actual real work? The technical guy with all the actual scientific knowhow?

>> No.15599269

>>15599255
These grifting Korean scientists aren't getting Nobel Prizes.

>> No.15599276

>>15599264
no, its basically a manager in this case

>> No.15599293

>>15599269
They gave it to some Japs despite magnesium-doped gallium nitride existing since the 1970s

>> No.15599296

>>15598785
Kek

>> No.15599309

>>15599156
Gary is a state of mind

>> No.15599330

>>15598132
Fake if real

>> No.15599341

>>15599143
Did he publish without permission to ensure his name was on the paper? All this just to try and get a Nobel even though all the others knew the current sample(s) were shit and they needs to make a purer sample to produce clean experimental results and a real paper.

>> No.15599352

>>15599341
This is why the 3 person rule on nobel is bullshit btw.
A nobel must be presented to a work (along with everyone who made it happen), not just the dudes at the head of research nor the clown that forces an early publication because they are nervous about getting credit

>> No.15599353

>>15598636
>ywn bash this nerd
>ywn throw his books on the ground and break his glasses and call him gay

>> No.15599405
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15599405

Scientists at the Chinese Academy of Science were able to manufacture LK-99 following the instructions in the preprint and have done several tests, all of which were consistent with the data presented by the authors.

>> No.15599419

>>15599405
> consistent with the data
that same data that doesn't prove it's a superconductor. great job PRC propaganda department.

>> No.15599420

>>15599405
Source: moonrunes

>> No.15599430

>>15599419
The point is that it is something. If it doesn't turn out to be a superconductor, it could still be a monopole, which would still be a significant discovery.

>> No.15599431

>>15599276
If he's the chief TECHNICAL officer, and one that has been cited thousands of times, I'm pretty sure he did a lion's share of the work and is rightfully pissed about what these scheming rats did to him.

>> No.15599437

>>15599430
it's not a fucking monopole, get real. a diamagnet is infinitely more likely.

>> No.15599444

>>15599255
Kwon was never taught by the prof though, just Lee and Kim. Seems like this is Kwon being desperate and trying to latch on after he was kicked out.

>> No.15599464

>>15599430
come on man it's way more likely to be a superpooperconductor than a fucking monopole

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>>15599405
We’re so back.

>> No.15599476

>>15598856
he doesn't have a career, he's a crypto grifter

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>>15599430
>it could still be a monopole
you cannot beat magnet
you break magnet it turn to two magnet
magnet win every time

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>>15599431
bullshit, you are completely clueless

>> No.15599483

>>15599405
This would be one of the most important (possible biggest) scientific discoveries of mankind and this is how it is unravelling? Translated WeChat messages on 4chan? I don't believe it, sorry.

>> No.15599493

>>15599483
Penicillin was discovered when they accidentally left a sample out for too long.

>> No.15599495

>>15599483
Honestly is like the less weird shit of all of this, nothing at all look serious

>> No.15599500

>>15599493
An apocryphal story (i.e a lie).

>> No.15599504
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15599504

What the FUCK is a conductor?
I'm here for COFFEE.

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15599522

>>15599481
>>15599437
>>15599430
>>15599464
brainlet here, if it is a monopole magnet what would that mean for science of physics or whatever?what could we use it for? what things would it bring about?

>> No.15599528
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15599528

>>15599504
Why does he have Oompa Loompa hair?

>> No.15599533

>>15599528
who is to blame for that?
the mother and the father

>> No.15599536

>>15598725
because it’s fun you faggot

>> No.15599540

>>15599405
any more updates on china? it's 6:19AM there

>> No.15599545

>>15599522
No new technologies that I'm aware of. It is more what it could mean to fundamental physics.

>> No.15599548

>>15599522
Monopoles don’t exist dingdong. Never will at any temperature.

>> No.15599550

>>15599522
Most likely boring shit like new kinds of detectors and scientific instruments that would get you shot for touching with your finger.

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>>15599419
the data shows zero resistance conduction though so why the fuck should we care if it floats?

>> No.15599558

>>15599552
Exactly. Fuck Meissner.

>> No.15599559

>>15599216
>ref: namu.wiki

>> No.15599560

>>15599552
Because I want my fucking hoverboards

>> No.15599563

>>15599552
Because the Meissner effect is one of the clearest signs of superconductivity. A single effect such as conductivity could be a measurement problem.

>> No.15599564

>>15599552
Type I and Type II superconductors float, so this implies there is a new type that's never been theorized before, the Type Seethe Superconductor.

>> No.15599570

>>15594274
Underrated post

>> No.15599578

>>15599522
a lot of theorycucks would be very happy.
practically, anything that plays with magnetic fields could probably use it. So tokamak fusion would go from 20 years away to 15.
If you can get monopole particles down really small you could put a bunch of them together and get a really strong material, using magnetic attraction in place of chemical bonds. But that's more sci-fi than anything.

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>>15599552
>>15599558
>>15599564
I don't get it
We see the motherfucker float so why are you guys pretending nothing is floating

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15599582

brb making cold fusion powered lk99 emdrive rn

>> No.15599588

>>15599580
it doesn't float

>> No.15599589

>>15599580
Because it's not fully floating, there's still some support right there. It could just be diamagnetism.

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15599590

>>15599548
>calls me dingdong
>cannot understand hypothetical
ok nigger

>>15599578
>>15599550
>>15599545
ty anons

>> No.15599594

>>15599580
It's wobbly.
Diamagnetics can float and wobble like that, but known superconductors should freeze in place and not move at all.
The sample is either very impure so only a tiny part of it can "float" as it should, or the material is diamagnetic and so not superconductive at all, or it's superconductive and also doesn't perfectly repel magnetic fields (unheard of).

>> No.15599601

I have no idea about the science behind this and I dont need to
I know about human nature, and this is clearly bullshit

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>>15599580
Meissner effect is a property of all superconductions when thete is expulsion of magnetic field from the interior of the material and it occurs without passing current through it. The authors say that their material does not show meissner effect without passing current through which is pretty sus. Its honestly confusing at the moment because it does show other properties like phase transition and zero resistance conductivity...

>> No.15599612

>>15598435
Yeah, he can tell that apatite is not a family of crystal structure to the >500 P63/m structure of apatite-like phases in the crystallography open database.

Same goes for perovskites, clays, double layered hydroxides... all families of similar crystal structures.

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15599618

> material allegedly exists since 99
> all we get is a shitty video "demonstration" that doesn't even demonstrate what it's supposed to

fake and gay

>> No.15599634

>>15599601
If this was a fraud, they would've immediately asked for money or investments instead of fighting for a Nobel prize.

>> No.15599645

>>15599618
its too important and easy to be a fake
everyone is rushing full retard to recreate this shit
they probably just fucked up and jumped at the first promising data to avoid the chink spies from stealing it

>> No.15599654

>>15599634
They grifted for 24 years on this material alone.

>> No.15599657

>>15599634
it isnt a fraud they are just stupid
scientists have the same mentality around this as the retards who believe that schizo babbling about aliens
the marks are in the lab

>> No.15599664

I'll believe it when I taste it

>> No.15599665

>>15599654
The material wasn't patented until last year, retard. How did they "grift" with it?

>> No.15599667

any real physicist and material science knows this paper is retarded and won't waste the time replicating garbage that doesn't work lol

>> No.15599678

>>15599667
both physicists and MSEs are virgins who have small dicks. the chad experimental chemist mogs them. cope.

>> No.15599679

>>15599654
>work on experiments for 20 years in a basement without telling anyone
Pretty shitty grift.

>> No.15599680

How many people do you think know about this story by now?

>> No.15599685

>>15599680
About 30 nerds.

>> No.15599690

piss and shid it's over

>> No.15599705

>>15599680
one tweet about it has 29 million views

https://twitter.com/alexkaplan0/status/1684044616528453633

>> No.15599707

so even in the likely case that it's not in fact a superconductor, but simply a diamagnetic material with very high conductivity at room temperature, is there any similar kind of material already?
did they authors say what they kind of material they were trying to look for? did they simulate it first?

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>>15599680

>> No.15599727

>>15599725
lol china

>> No.15599728

>>15599707
They explicitly called the material a superconductor in the papers, and said it had a Meissner effect and all the other doohickey.

>> No.15599733

>>15599680
any westoid or asian de-facto westoid with internet access is likely to have heard something

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>>15599618
> material allegedly exists since 99
> all we get is a shitty video "demonstration" that doesn't even demonstrate what it's supposed to
yes. because we weren't supposed to have it at all, the researcher straight-up leaked it. if this works, as far as I'm concerned it's literally skunkworks-tier secret tech gifted to us like prometheus gave the grecians fire

>> No.15599736

>>15599727
helps you understand the seethe and cope, they're butthurt about the Korean dog being first

>> No.15599737

>>15599707
>, but simply a diamagnetic material with very high conductivity at room temperature, is there any similar kind of material already
No. Nothing like it

>> No.15599744

>>15599734
we got the resistance graph in the third paper, it's superconductivity

>> No.15599746

What country would you be happiest to make such a groundbreaking discovery? The Philippines would be pretty funny.

>> No.15599760

If it's just a novel diamagnetic material will they still get a nobel prize?

>> No.15599761

>>15599744
Can you post the graph?

>> No.15599766
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>>15599746
The Sealand schizo.

>> No.15599768

>>15599746
north korea

>> No.15599770

>>15599760
>muh diamagnetism

Explain the 0 resistance, buddy.

>> No.15599775

>>15599582
we're back. we're SO back, we're so SO fucking back!!!!

>> No.15599779
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diamagnetards will never recover

>> No.15599781

>>15599705
Fuck off Alex Kaplan. You been spamming your own social media account everywhere on 4chan

>> No.15599782
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15599782

I don't know what's more fascinating at this point. The actual possible discovery or the fact that this entire thing has the hallmarks of a K-Drama being made in real time.

>> No.15599783

>>15599760
they wont get a nobel prize either way
this wasnt a real discovery, they just made it by accident
pure luck, zero thought or skill

>> No.15599788

>>15599781
Buy my coffee.

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>>15599761

>> No.15599794

>>15599783
Cope.

>> No.15599795

>>15599794
i suppose you want the infinite monkeys to win the nobel for literature

>> No.15599797

http://journal.kci.go.kr/jkcgct/archive/articleView?artiId=ART002955269

>> No.15599799

>>15599795
If this gets replicated, they're getting it. Period. And you know it.

>> No.15599800

Does this bring us closer to the cyberpunk/blade runner future?

>> No.15599805

>>15599734
>leaked
Imagine if it's real. Imagine if it never got leaked. Imagine having absolute monsters hoard and keep it a secret from the world until billions die from climate change caused by a preventable energy crisis. Imagine at the end, where only a few thousand humans are left, the elites pull it out of their ass and then parade around as the saviors of humanity, even though they intentionally hid it until the last minute to kill and exploit as many people as possible.

Grim. I'm glad the guy leaked it.

>> No.15599808

>>15599594
this is a problem indeed, there should be lock, I'm not seeing it

>> No.15599809

>>15599800
Absolutely. Not there, but way way closer.

>> No.15599812

>>15599805
>climate change
lmao

>> No.15599813
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>>15599800
You know it.

>> No.15599814

>>15599800
much closer
dial-a-yield plasma rifles and shit

>> No.15599817

>>15599800
>laser/energy rifles
>flying cars
>hyper advanced prosthetics
>neural implants
>limitless energy transfer
Yeah, I'm thinking we're back.

>> No.15599823

>>15599812
>nooo humans are le heckin helpess we can't shpae the climate at all! we're gods perfect helpless animals and have NO agency
kys

>> No.15599826

>>15599799
They should get negative Nobel Prizes for having such a shitty paper.

>> No.15599827

>>15599813
>>15599800
>people are going to start changing their species, sex, and race for real
Terrifying but exciting. I will remain myself and watch the bizarre post-human creatures to come
Can we make slime girls real? I want a slime girl wife desu

>> No.15599829

>>15599800
No, those futures aren't usually dependent on superconductors, and cheap room temp superconductors are the "good for everyone" kind of shit that doesn't lend itself to dystopias

>> No.15599832

>>15599829
So many people want this to be false so they can inflict dystopia upon others. I'm skeptical, but optimistic. What we've seen so far is good.

>> No.15599834
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15599834

How can room temperature super conductors be real if 'room temperature' is an opinion?

>> No.15599835

>>15599744
https://twitter.com/sanxiyn/status/1684840231294672897
it's over anon

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15599837

hopium cucks BTFO yet again LMAO

>> No.15599840

>>15599800
It gives us the battery energy densities, power efficient electronics, and super powerful (and cheap) CPUs needed to create the technologies in those universes, yeah.

>> No.15599841

>>15599835
Skill issue unironically.

>> No.15599843

>>15599837
>thundertard
I'm comfortable dismissing his opinion

>> No.15599844

>>15599837
he hasn't killed himself yet?
I thought being a miserable bitter faggot every waking moment of every day would have turned his heart into a hand grenade

>> No.15599845

>>15599834
can't tell if this is just bait or...

>> No.15599848

>>15599837
oh, it's the EDS guy

>> No.15599850

i went to sleep and woke up - is it over or are we back?

>> No.15599852

>>15599837
>we can't make copper wires out of ceramics so this means we also can't put them in PCBs or make special circuits or solid state batteries out of them
This guy is such a pretentious fag holy shit

>> No.15599854

>>15599850
it's back we're over

>> No.15599859

>>15599837
DOES THIS RETARD KNOW WHAT THE FUCK A CERAMIC CAPACITOR IS
IS HE SERIOUSLY SUGGESTING THAT WE CAN'T USE CERAMICS IN PCB OR CHIP DESIGN WHEN ONE OF THE MOST POPULAR TYPES OF CAPACITORS IS FUCKING CERAMIC

>> No.15599863

>>15599845
It's true, chicks with dicks don't exist.

>> No.15599867

>>15599783
you can nobel for accidental lucky discovery, see cosmic background microwave

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>>15599837
We've had YBCO wire for a decade retard.

>> No.15599875

>>15599837
>The very first paper shows that it can be applied as a film over copper
>Retards:

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15599894

The eternal korean cannot be kept down

>> No.15599899

>>15599829
What kind of future would this bring then? Something more optimistic akin to Solarpunk?

>> No.15599900
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>>15599800
No because that's a visual aesthetic rather than a fully fleshed out world

>> No.15599905

>>15599899
Utopia or elysium
Countries that are ahead will jump anywhere from 20 to 200 years into the future

>> No.15599910

>>15599900
Is this AI generated?
It looks so fucking off it has to be

>> No.15599912

>>15599837
well this pretty much confirms it's real

>> No.15599914

>>15599899
Reality as it is now but cooler punk.
People who buy explosive based guns will be retarded fudd boomers or military (retarded fudd boomers), you'll be able to rent jetpacks, and Elon Musk will show off a real hoverbike (it's retarded and it will never come to market).
You'll hear about how much better electrical infrastructure is but you won't really notice it. A new fusion reactor design utilizing RTS will seem promising and will deliver net-gain when it's built e+5 years from now.

>> No.15599916

>>15599837
>Trannyf00t
discarded

>> No.15599918

>>15599910
Hong Kong riots some years ago.

>> No.15599923

>>15599918
Then it's had some serious edits done to it because the feel good faces are all fucked up and the letters are blurry messes.

>> No.15599950
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>>15599835
good morning sir

>> No.15599959

>>15599182
Space companies usually outsource the production of certain parts to third parties. I doubt that guy's company does anything more with spacecraft than that

>> No.15599983

>>15599823
God created man in His image with full agency which may be used to destroy the planet. Nothing personnel

>> No.15599987

>>15599959
He is ex spacex
They make as much of their own shit as they can to keep costs down

>> No.15600109

>>15599823
I'm saying you're a fucking retard if you believe in anthropogenic climate change you dumb leftoid nigger.

>> No.15600120

>>15599837
Isn't this the guy who makes obsessed videos about feminists and then all the comments are "please stop talking about feminists and make your normal content"

>> No.15600133

>>15599770
It's not zero. It's higher than copper. That's why it don't float.

>> No.15600185

>>15599843
>>15599844
>>15599848
>>15599852
>>15599859
>>15599875
>>15599912
>>15599916
Motherfucker has a PhD in Chemistry, the most complicated field. Show your equivalents, or shut your fucking mouth. LK-99 is trash. If anyone knows this, its him.

>> No.15600191

>>15600185
it's over

>> No.15600202

>>15600185
Trannyfeet spotted

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>>15600185
>Chemistry, the most complicated field

>> No.15600253

>>15600191
>>15600202
>>15600215
Your PhDs in scientific fields.
Post them, faggots.

>> No.15600286

>>15600253
IN ALL FIELDS
>captcha: PhD

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>>15600253

>> No.15600398

>>15600287
>gook vs white man
gee i wonder who is a dirty lying bug and which one is part of the group that made 99% of every single significant and relevant invention and discovery?

>> No.15600435

>>15600398
>source?
>I am white

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>>15600398
what white man are u talking about white men are nowhere mentioned in this study r u stupid stfu all white countries will be majority nigger anyways stfu cracker

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>>15600398
what white man are u talking about white men are nowhere mentioned in this study wtf

>> No.15600916

>>15600109
I never understood why some people are so vehemently against the idea that over 100 years of pumping CO2 and other greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere on an ever growing industrial scale affects the climate. Big coal and oil must be very good at their job.

>> No.15600921

>>15599837
But optical fiber exits and pretty flexible? I know that glass isn't a ceramic, but at least on the surface level, their properties seem similar to me.

>> No.15600929

>>15600185
>If anyone knows this, its him.
Ah, yes. Thunderf00t, the CEO of chemistry, destroyer of papers.

>> No.15600946

>>15599837
this dude is a complete retard
YBCO is a fucking ceramic

>> No.15600951

>>15600185
here you absolute homo >>15599868
never post that faggot again if you aren't explicitly mocking him

>> No.15601075

>>15599837
I refuse to believe this isn't satire.

>> No.15601089

>>15600951
Tape is not wire and can't be used like one you blackest gorilla nigger.

>> No.15601174

>>15599914
quantum computers for the masses

>> No.15601195

>>15601089
can deposit traces on silicon tho
you're not thinking enough

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>>15599837
They hated him because he told the truth. I haven't seen many actual professional weigh in on yet. These threads have tweets from some physics baristas or people with BS in some irrelevant field.

>> No.15601342

>>15601326
Holy -- I kneel.
LK-99 is looking like shit now.