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If religion is so stupid (or such is the consensus today), then why so many great minds spend a lot of time analyzing and pondering upon it? For example Isaac Newton was a devout Christian and he read the New Testament in ancient Greek and spend a lot of time analyzing it. Why did such a smart guy not realize that "religion is stupid"?

>> No.15598316

>>>/his/

>> No.15598339

The sheer amount of literature on christianity must have interested him. Plus there was no reason to question it till darwin. You have to think about it from a perspective of a 15th century man who has no experience with other foreign cultures, or has never seen strange animals. I think its his verbal iq on overdrive being interested in analyzing the vast amounts of latin and greek literature. Leibniz was also a christian btw.

>> No.15598349

>>15598312
By his time for over a thousand years Christianity had blocked scientific advancement, like claiming the earth is flat, with the threat of death for anyone who thought of something that contradicted the dogma of the jewish mythology. Perhaps Newton was studying it to try to find ways to use pilpul on the scripture to make it support him in case puritans turned up on his door accusing him for witchcraft.

>> No.15598355

>>15598312
Because they were conditioned to be Chrisitian from their childhood and lived in a fully Chrisitian society which reinforced their faith.
No matter how smart you are, if there's no one to confront your beliefs there's little chance for you to really question them.

>> No.15598363

>>15598312
Look buddy, we called it the enlightenment for a reason. Everyone was up to their eyes in magical dogma, even super smart people like Newton. We're free now! You can cum into a vibrating artificial vagina without fear of hell.

>> No.15598369

>>15598339
>15th century man
more like 17/18th century
not gonna read the rest of your post midwit

>> No.15598382

>>15598369
english isn't my native language i conflated 15th century for 1600s

>> No.15598383

>>15598349
You're thinking too much about it, they were plenty of truly pious Christian scientists at that time so it wouldn't be surprising if Newton was one of them.

>> No.15598425

>>15598383
Isaac Newton grew up during the English interregnum, during which the country was ruled by utterly insane zealots and during which witch hunting was at its height. It's not unlikely at all that he'd look through the new testament to search for ways Jesus might agree with him in case some religious maniacs start a mob against him.

>> No.15598431

>>15598312
Well, if I have seen further than Isaac Newton, it's because I have stood on the shoulders of giants. I forget who said that.

>> No.15598484

Religion at that time was connected to the state, his employer. I don't think there was any way to rebel against that. Plus rebellion meant a disagreement on scripture on doctrine not full blown atheism. It would be inconceivable to suggest any person would have developed atheism at that point in history, especially a person who grew up christian.

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>>15598312
>>15598312
Materialism and modwit retards. Name a more iconic duo.

>> No.15598718

>>15598699
Even after trying to make the anti-philosophy side look as ridiculous as possible this image still manages to make them look more reasonable.

>> No.15598751

>>15598718
You are an indication that /sci/ is retarded. Not even that anon, I just find you ridiculous.

>> No.15598763

>>15598751
>Waaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaa
You're an indication this board has been flooded with low level midwits who think posting anti-science images made by someone else makes them smart

>> No.15598770

>>15598312
Because those who went against the dogma were burned at stake. Being an atheist was a good enough reason to be killed, just like in Saudi Arabia today.

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>>15598770
>Being an atheist was a good enough reason to be killed, just like in Saudi Arabia today
based

>> No.15600058

>>15598770
For hundreds of years prior, the dogma was that witches didn't exist and witch accusations were persecuted local superstitions. How is this any different to non religious ideology or policy, anyway?

>> No.15600127

>>15598312
There was no internet nor tv back then

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>>15598312
>or such is the consensus today
Its not the consensus
Most people on the earth are religious, if you exclude some of the more secular areas like china.
Religious people literally believe in magic and value their religious beliefs way more than science. Just go to any muslim country and you'll see what i'm talking about.
Same applies to christians (the real ones atleast)
Religion is the norm. Science and scientific thinking is the achievement of a select few.

>> No.15600432

>>15600058
Most secular nations don't kill you on the basis of your beliefs

>> No.15600457

Because religion, despite all else, is an exceptionally powerful tool of control. If you can understand religion, you can understand how to control others into doing what you want them to, lead armies, etc.

>> No.15600458

>>15600432
Assuming you completely buckle if it's any remotely important issue & unless you're in any position of power

>> No.15600463

>>15598312
>religion vs science thread

>> No.15600468

>>15598349
>Christianity blocked scientific advancement
How dare you advance such a racist eurocentric agenda. Places like Africa, Asia, and the Americas were completely untouched by Christianity, and these POC would easily be able to advance science before colonizers stole all their advancements

>> No.15600538

>>15600457
Yeah this. It is also why it is not just atheists who are so reluctant to research NDEs, but also religious people, since the NDE offers no control since everyone goes to heaven unconditionally when they die.

And NDEs are more real than this world, in every way. For instance, NDErs report expanded intelligence. One NDEr said that the greatest supergenius who ever lived, with the help of the greatest supercomputer of all time, would be immeasurably dwarfed by the intelligence she had access to while in the light, so much so that it would be closer and fairer to compare the intelligence of Einstein to that of an ant. Literally and seriously. And as another NDEr described their cognition during their life review:

>"I looked up, and saw four translucent screens begin to appear - and form a kind of gigantic, cubed box all around me. It was through this method that I was shown my life review. Without ever having to turn my head, I panoramically saw my past, present, future - and there was even a screen behind me that displayed a tremendous amount of scientific data, numbers, symbols and universal codes. I was in complete amazement because (as all of this was occurring) I realized I understood absolutely everything I was seeing - even in the most microscopic detail! There seemed to be no limit to the thoughts I was able to think or the ideas I was able to absorb. In this space, what we tend to think of as a limited comprehension or single-mindedness here on Earth, becomes truly infinite and limitless here! I kept thinking over and over how true it is what they say: that when we go back home - we all really are of one mind!"

From here: https://youtu.be/U00ibBGZp7o

Another way NDEs are more real is how one NDEr said that he saw more than 80 new primary colors in the NDE world, compared to the 3 primary colors we have here.

From here: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mysteries-consciousness/202204/does-afterlife-obviously-exist

So heaven is real.

>> No.15601062

>>15600538
>Yeah I felt like, super smart, smarter than Einstein
>Interesting, what did you do with your intelligence?
>Errr, well, I dunno, it was just, like, a feeling, you know?