/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15582909
Woke is knowing you should be travelling to a corrupt foreign nation and getting a corrupt doctor to pretend your kids are vaccinated and fill out the papers to save your kids from the toxins of vaccines. Germs are fake and gay

>>15582914
Okay but I believe germs are real. I just have very low trust in our society because during covid the scientists and medical people showed me they are brutally utilitarian and that I have almost nothing in common with them morally or ethically. I really don't know what they are capable of, they clearly don't value the truth the way I do. Is it possible that many doctors know it is crazy to inject infants with heavy metals? Maybe. I have no expectation that they would tell me the truth or do right by the individual if it threatened their career or their perception of the greater good. Is it possible that RFK jr is right about the adjuvants going to the brain? Maybe. I don't know. Why do the companies have immunity from liability? I don't know. Are RFK jr's claims about them never having to prove they are 'safe' true? Maybe, I don't know. I just know that the people who were willing to unperson people for not taking a medicine during Covid are more or less demons (I'm not religious, but it is the most apt word I can think of), so I really can't trust them. I just want to protect my kid from diseases, and was hoping someone here had some logical insight into this problem.

because they're unvaccinated

>>15583109
How would they be diagnosed if they never go to the doctor?

>>15583130
The Amish do go to the doctor. You're thinking of Jehova's Witnesses.

>>15583130
The Amish do go to the doctor. You're thinking of Jehovah's Witnesses.

>>15582909
>So I figure if they are bigger and more developed the amount of toxic aluminum and mercury and god knows what else would be of less risk to them.
Sound logic.
Also, 90% of the "vaccines" are not needed.

>>15582909
You can check the makeup of many vaccines on wikipedia. If you are concerned about certain ingredients you can simply decide on a case-by-case basis. I guess in order to judge the risk of a specific ingredient you should ask your doctor.

Example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DTaP-IPV-HepB_vaccine
License Data: NiH: https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/drugInfo.cfm?setid=b63c4c7d-3dbf-419d-84cc-2c1957b92be7
INGREDIENTS AND APPEARANCE > Inactive Ingredients
Includes some aluminium as well as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polysorbate_80 (a food (and soap) additive) and formaldehyde (not harmful in the given concentrations; generally the concentrations matter a lot and this is why I think most heavy metals in vaccines are not that dangerous compared to drinking coca cola from aluminium cans and so much more, so maybe RFK jr should advise people against doing that as well...)

In general you can search the nih database for the name of your vaccine and then check it and talk the concerning ingredients through with your doctor.

The risk is, if your kid doesn't get the vaccine it might get the real infection. This might be deadly or life-destroying, but you know that already.

>>15583271
>compared to drinking coca cola from aluminium cans
If you didn't know that cans have a liner to prevent aluminum leaching, then I don't think you have any authority to make big speeches about vaccine safety.

>>15583229
>unironically believing vaccines cause autism
Jesus christ this board is fucking dead

>>15583292
>big pharma reeeeeeeeeeeeeeing
>nooooos you cannot just point out science that makes us look bad!

>>15583271
>wikipedia
kek, yeah no bias there whatsoever.
totally scientific also! kek

>>15583271
>generally the concentrations matter a lot and this is why I think most heavy metals in vaccines are not that dangerous compared to drinking coca cola from aluminium cans and so much more, so maybe RFK jr should advise people against doing that as well...)
it matters if its going straight into the bloodstream in a form that can cross the blood brain barrier too though, very different from eating it I think

>>15582909
the implications are pretty simple:
if your kid is strong, nothing will happen.
if your kid is weak, they'll die.
this is how we rolled before modern medicine started shitting up the gene pool (or "saving" it)

>>15583400
>heavy metals in vaccines are not that dangerous compared to drinking coca cola from aluminium cans
Al is not a heavy metal
Al cans are lined with plastic (microplastics are bad also)
Dosage over time per kg of bodyweight matters matters. One average vax = many many months of average common exposure to all other forms of toxic metals and chemicals that are in vaccines as preservatives. Now look at how overdosed children are becoming, starting oddly enough when younger millenials were being born. >>15583229

The evidence is clear and well known, just being suppressed by government due to the trillions of dollars at stake and public backlash for what they have done, should normies wake up.

>>15583130
>How would they be diagnosed if they never go to the doctor?
Who says we don't?

>>15583334
>science
>every claim is based on either jpegs from facebook or one study by a discredited quack that has been proven wrong multiple times

>>15583418
This. If my kids die, then so be it.

>>15582909
They should be fine. I did not get any required shots until I was an adult a few years ago because a job forced me

>>15582936
Theyre masquarading as brutally utilitarian, in reality they're incompetent or evil when it comes to calculating utilitarian value.

>>15583607
>>science
>>every claim is based on either jpegs from facebook or one study by a discredited quack
Exactly! Big government "science" is shit.
They ruined it.

>>15583640
hmmm

>>15582909
there's no mercury in vaccines you idiot

>>15583616
i doubt your wife will be as okay with it as you are
and prepare to probably get divorced, after your wife loses her children and she resents (You) for it, do you think she will want to go through the pain of the loss again and have another child?

>>15582909
>I'm concerned that all the adjuvants might poison my kid somehow
The biggest risk for your kids is that at least one of their parents is an idiot.

From a pure probability perspective theres no way your kid will encounter shit thatthe vaxes supposedly prevent

Dont vaxx him, raise a chad

>>15584269
Thiomersal

>>15582909
Vaccine your kids asap dumbass. Don't play with their life you retarded anti-science bad goy.

>>15584272
You say that like it's a bad thing. If anon and his wife have weak offspring they should be barred from procreating any more after it inevitably dies.

Doing so voluntarily just saves the rest of us the trouble.

>>15584464
>Is thimerosal still used in vaccines for children?

>No. Thimerosal hasn’t been used in vaccines for children since 2001.
>However, thimerosal is still used in some flu vaccines. Yearly flu vaccines are recommended for all children. If you are worried about thimerosal, you can ask for a flu vaccine without it.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/thimerosal/faqs.html

>>15584844
>.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns
KEK!
Same people that force you to poison your children, tell you that their poison is "safe and effective".
Geee wiz soooo convincing!

>>15584844
>there's no mercury in vaccines you idiot

>>15582909
bump

>>15585791
this thread is is titled "Delaying kids vaccination" with OP having concern about "the amount of toxic aluminum and mercury and god knows what else would be of less risk to them."

like I said none of the vaccines for children contain thimerosal, it has been disused since 2001 despite no evidence of harm
the flu vaccine is optional and if you are worried about thimerosal you can choose one without it
so yeah I was right

give one of them all of the vaxxes and give the other one none of the vaxxes. record your observations and make another thread in 20 years
also this is an >>>/adv/ thread

>>15586224
>like I said none of the vaccines for children contain thimerosal
You didn't say that. You said there is no mercury in vaccines. A lazily crafted and easily provably incorrect statement that undermines trust in science.

>>15583109
>zero amish children diagnosed with cancer, diabetes, autism
Are posters on /sci/ really this credulous? Is this board qualitatively any different from /x/?

Jesus, I shouldn't need to post a source for this prima facie bullshit claim, but here
https://imfar.confex.com/imfar/2010/webprogram/Paper7336.html

>>15586226
this would be extremely immoral

>>15584288
you sure about that?
https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/article-747844

>>15582936
>I believe in germs
Ok so don't vaccinate your kids to test out whether germs are actually harmful. None are going to die because germs are fake and gay.

>>15582909
chang and igor would approve

>>15583130
they die because god loves them so much that he wants them back early.

>>15584286
Well, one of the parents has to be female ...

>>15586340
so you're totally open to drinking a solution containing h. pylori, a bacteria which can cause stomach cancer?

Why "delay" and just not get them at all?
The government even pushed chickenpox vaccines now! How fucked up and crazy is that?!
What's next, pimple vaccines?

>>15583427
you are not amish

>>15582909
If you're a retard, your kid will still be a retard with or without vaccines.

>>15582909
Never give any kind of vaccine EVER to your loved ones. News are full of bloodclot epidemics.

>>15588166
>News are full of bloodclot epidemics
you are an npc

>>15583292
Show me a single study that says all vaccines do not cause autism.

>>15582909
pretty sure some vaccines have to be given early in life because the illnesses they prevent (to a degree) might be even worse in their adult lives than as children. google says chickenpox is an example of this.

>>15588218
>pretty sure some vaccines have to be given early in life because the illnesses they prevent (to a degree) might be even worse in their adult lives than as children. google says chickenpox is an example of this.
That's the big pharma advertising you are spewing.

The logical and sensible and scientifically safer method is to just let kids get chickenpox (it's harmless to kids) and get NATURAL IMMUNITY to the virus.
That is FAR better than the toxic vaccines that don't even work half the time.

>>15588300
>just let kids get chickenpox
antivaxxers are identical to the commie retards who cry and bitch for the return of a time that was objectively shittier because they're so spoiled rotten they have no clue how good they have it

>>15588300
>The logical and sensible and scientifically safer method is to just let kids get chickenpox
yeah, but that was a single example.

>it's harmless to kids
exactly, TO KIDS. unvaxed retards will one day get what they deserve!

>>15588320
>piss poor government PSYOP attempt
Try again tard. That's lame af.

>>15588380
>unvaxed retards will one day get what they deserve!
Have you gotten your 26th booster yet? If not, you are not fully vaccinated retard.

OP here, thanks guys. Not as helpful as I was hoping, but the pro-vax people had an opportunity to make arguments as to why it is important to get them done asap. Seems like it doesn't matter. I'll probably get them vaccinated with only 2-3 of the most important ones when they hit 5 years old or so.

>>15588456
>your children die as infants
>well at least they didnt get injected with autism

>>15588399
quit larping as a schizo, they are pure souls and you're tarnishing their name with your egotistic coping

>>15588166
eat shit

>>15588888
desu it's worth it to breed out autism gene