/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15544300
Yes, psychology and therefore psychiatry are both obviously false. It doesn't take a lot of knowledge to realize this.
The further redpill is that biology and associates are also just as false.

Anyone who reads the DSM knows how arbitrary the classification and diagnostic criteria are. It's easy to abuse the fuck out of this shit. Also psychiatry and psychotherapy have no concept of treatment. Best they can do is throw questionable pills at the patient.

>>15544300
>Are they correct?
Yes. I often called Psychiatrists "potion makers", a type of voodoo.

t.Developmental Psychologist

>>15544320
>The further redpill is that biology and associates are also just as false.
Care to expand on that?

>>15544339
Being a schizophrenic with daddy issues doesn't confer that degree to you.

>>15544300
Imagine practicing psychiatry and having to deal with collapsing demographics and economies and societies and your only method is prescription drugs that your suicidal patients have to pay for. You can't even call out the real reasons for the problems you cannot fix because you'll be removed for it.

What a shitty job lol.

>>15544300
>If so, what other sciences are equally fake?

I approve of this thread because OP generated his question via a reasonable process.

Obviously, things like phrenology and eugenics are pseudo.

I would reiterate that mathematics isnt a science and doesn't identify itself as such.

We might start to say that epigenetics is psuedo. As far as ive noticed there isnt a huge move within it to identify the genes that have been switched off. Certainly with respect to the gays.

Sociology is another one. I dont know enough about it, but i was surprised how common it was to see sociology presume that political ideologies were the underpinning basis for behavior rather than the other way around. I was also surprised when the first thing they told me was that experimental parameter construction was too difficult to be attempted.

Thats all i can think of right now.

>>15544794
Ive met more Psychologists than you ever will and they all agree Im smarter than them.
>Daddy issues.
What the fuck are you pulling out of your ass? Stop LARPing as a Psychologist, its glaringly obvious how little you know what youre talking about.

Besides, when I speak to them I just avoid answering any questions without them knowing while turning on them, the term is Psyche-driving, where they belueve theyre leading but theyre not.

I dont like lying and refuse to answer intimate questions. It makes me blush with shame.

>>15544858
I can see I struck close to home. Your hatred of your rich father (who supported you despite your illness) is very shameful.

>>15544863
>I can see I struck close to home
No, dumbass...stop LYING to feel superior, only weak, stupid, unaccomplished people do that.

Youre a charlatan, its obvious...stop LYING.

>>15544869
Projection is a sign of psychotic meltdown. Your anger at yourself for pretending to have degrees to win internet arguments would go away if you stopped doing it.

>>15544880
>pretending
Im meeting Professor Levine in a few weeks, later this year I may try to visit Norman Wildberger when Im in Asia.
>...but youre a lying failure, j-j-just like me amd everyone else!

I know you didnt do anything with your life...but...

WE ARE NOT THE SAME.

>>15544889
You're a schizophrenic who has a rich father. You used to travel the world when you were sane, and even have photographs from the good times, but you've lapsed into delusions now that you're homeless and out of favor.

>>15544889
>Professor Levine
Developmental Cognitions (Phenomenology)
>Norman Wildberger
Sociology of Mathematics (Number Theory)

>>15544894
>You're a schizophrenic
Youre not a Diagnostician.

I am.

>>15544898
Having extensive experience in psych wards doesn't make you a psychiatrist.

>>15544889
>I know you didnt do anything with your life...but...
>WE ARE NOT THE SAME.

Im not him but the one thing you do in your life which i do not is brag like an internet toughguy and namefag.

You didnt even disprove his argument with logic or facts. You just bragged.

Maybe i should stop typing to you.

>>15544900
>psychiatrist
Pill pusher? Keep your pseudoscience to yourself.

Developmental Psychologist doesnt use Rx to fix problems, we use our big brains to logically orient psyches to balance.

t.Doctor

>>15544902
>You just bragged.
Stating my credentials isnt bragging. Its referencing my field or research for audit.

You thinking my "pretending" could even be "logic and fact" without "bragging" is retardedly illogical.

Sit down, dipshit, youre fucking retarded and incoherent.

>>15544902
CoP is another homeless schizo the mods refuse to ban. If you poke him the right way he reveals a lot about his home life and who he was before he had his breakdown. He was one of those rich kids who travels to Africa and the Middle East for poverty tourism and he often reposts the same couple pictures from his last trip to Afghanistan. Nowadays he reads a lot of pop-sci books on kindle and considers himself a master of the occult (and also lies about having multiple degrees).

>>15544911
Its fascinating to be famous...like a hollywood star that has hate-fans that "like know all about them" then procede to say a bunch of false stories and refuse to accept they were wrong because they need to feel like they know something secret.

Sad....very sad, little, lives...

>>15544300
I think anyone who knows even a little about psychiatry knows it's bs built on pseudoscientific unfalsifiable models that compete with each other because none of them can be proven or disproven.

>>15544911
>poverty tourism
I do the tour, they get the poverty.

Firm but fair.

>>15544330
Is affluenza still in the DSM?

>>15544300
Nutrition.

>>15544947
That is an interesting cut on your left palm.

>>15544300
>>15544320
Psychiatry is abuse. The drugs are known to be harmful. E.g. antipsychotics shrink the brain. This is brain damage. It's a known effect, and yet doctors can FORCIBLY inject patients with these drugs against the patient's will.

I can understand locking someone up if they're dangerous, okay. You want to prevent harm to others, that makes sense. But drugging them with known harmful drugs is abhorrent.

Perhaps one way to reduce the chance of a distressed person from committing harm is to say to them "if you commit harm to others then that's a crime and you'll go to prison - but if you need help then there are helplines you can call that can offer you assistance with any emotional distress". Treat people like humans instead of drugging them against their will.

>>15544300
All science is fake and gay these days, "scienitifc" atheism has led us into a new dark ages

>>15546299
That's because lying is the foundation of atheism, and therefore the foundation of materialist science.

>>15546299
>>15546583
How many times did your priests molest you then?

>>15544300
>Are they correct?
Yes.
>If so, what other sciences are equally fake?
Virology.

>>15544914
Do tell how arguing with some basket weaving anons is the most efficient use of your hard earned degrees and not some cheap self-validation. Seems.. sad, very sad.

It's pretty obvious it's fake when all research in AI immediately erodes psychological mental constructions as if your brain has magical modules in your head which make you "happy" "sad"
Anyone who believes this shit is in a religious cult invented by Freud and the rest that modern twisted people mostly women recite "HAPPY" "SAD" and why you should or should not be either of those things when they are catchall human terms describing a much more complex process exactly as consciousness describes an arbitrary line which a sufficient number of cells in the correct organization can act on their own accord all at once which doesn't mean you have some divine light powering you just as happiness doesn't magically come from the brain
They just make this shit up because they are incapable of logical conclusions so derive a fake science from human things over and over and peer shaming that stupid humans believe are not a consequence of a describable system rather something which they have a will over, and that's what makes psychology utterly insane because it redirects people's wills away from the outside world which they can change to the inside thinking they can change modules as if the human brain is a car, and then they soil actual self realization like zen meditation by trying to define it's mental functionings and how it's good for 15 minutes a day when zen meditation is meant to permeate all actions, and doing nothing includes realizing those who rave about their divine knowledge of concepts which exist entirely only in human language like happiness or sadness or baby's first experience (what about the damage of circumcision, where are the brain scans?) are utterly insane
Psychology being adopted as an academic science has ruined all our lives and spoils the journals because a 1/3 of them truly believes in this shit

>>15544300
>guy ends his long career making good money and basically living the sloth life
>finally admits it's a scam
wow.

https://mises.org/wire/dr-thomas-szaszs-campaign-against-psychiatric-coercion-and-therapeutic-state

>>15547860
>arguing with some basket weaving anons
Why was Jesus breaking bread with sinners and the underclass?

>>15547860
...and when Im in the US I walk the streets at night and mingle with homeless drug addicts and schizophrenics. Give it try some time...theyre people too, but in "sad, very sad." places in life.


Im not interested in mingling with people filled with the arrogance of a comfortable life, confusing it with ability or merit...

>>15544320
The final redpill is you can't trust any research/science that has too many uncontrolled/unaccounted variables, OR if there is lack of scrutiny, usually from the topic being too niche/irrelevant or prohibitive cost, OR, when it involves intervening in the real world, doesn't reveal if it fails on short-enough time scales, OR if the topic is corrupted by being too close to power/money interests.

I would add sociology, economics, cosmology, education, climate science, and much of medicine.
Even history when it is invoked too much politically/socially.

>>15544836
>eugenics is pseudo
It is based on selection, the strongest result in biology. I have no doubt it works. Humans used it on livestock/crops for thousands of years. The problem is it isn't always clear what side effects a given selection criteria will have. I'd argue we implement/uphold unintentional eugenics/dysgenics programs everyday. Every reward/punishment is tipping the scales.

>>15544300
What psychiatrists have done to science. I will do to psychiatrists.
:)

>>15547952
>it isn't always clear what side effects a given selection criteria will have
Sometimes a bad thing is a güt thing.

>>15544300
any social studies.
now to counter myself they are not completely fake they just apply only to the masses, look how consumerism work, propaganda and marketing or psy operations they work well but not on non retarded individuals

do psychologists/psychiatrists study the function of the brain on a physical level?

>>15544300
Psychiatry is real but the shit is so corrupted by social bias it's unreal.

>>15544300
I think one problem with science today is they don't value questions. They only value answers.
This isn't just psychology but lots of science suffers this.

I've finally understand simply "knowing what stuff don't know" or the "gaps in your knowledge" is infinity more valuable than having no clue how stupid you are. It's the first step to forming the correct questions, and having the right questions are necessary to finding answers. I find the more you learn about something the more questions you have. So if you don't have questions about something then you've either mastered it or haven't even begun to learn about it.

Being a professional in a scientific setting, and having a bunch of questions and saying "I don't know" makes you look dumb. Having the answers to everything, even if those answers are only "theoretical" somehow makes science look sexy and makes you look professional and smart. If your field of science is difficult enough then nobody will be able to question you except for your peers or students, and students can be taught you are correct even when you are not.

>>15548204
TL;DR truth > questions > awareness of ignorance > unaware of ignorance > believing in incorrect/misinformation

>>15548204
Well said.

>>15545715
>Psychiatry is abuse. The drugs are known to be harmful. E.g. antipsychotics shrink the brain. This is brain damage. It's a known effect, and yet doctors can FORCIBLY inject patients with these drugs against the patient's will.
Schizos are paranoid, because the government is in fact out to get them.
If you knew the entire governing class of society was against you, would you trust anyone who put them into power as rational human beings?

>>15548263
>Schizos are paranoid, because the government is in fact out to get them.
that means they aren't paranoid, they're just more observant and intelligent than everyone else

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Agreed. I just use them to get drugs.

>>15544944
Just the DSM itself is arbitrary garbage. It's akin to astrology but few people want to admit it.

>>15547911
>schizophrenics

I mean, we used to call these people "crazy", rightfully burn them and be done with it.
Now we need to call them "schizophrenics" and allow them in our society so that they can burden us financially and physically.

>>15547985
Psychiatrists at least have some understanding of neurology and how behaviour relates to biology but even they are guessing.
Psychologists are much worse and blindly, and in a cult-like fashion, follow the DSM. I know several of them and they legitimately sound like cult members. Their biases also seep through their "diagnoses". It's unironically "crazy" how they keep getting away with it.
They're usually also arrogant and dumb, the worst kind of combination.

>>15548745
>Their biases also seep through their "diagnoses". It's unironically "crazy" how they keep getting away with it.
My favorite thing is all the diagnostic feedback loops that get baked into certain diagnoses.
>diagnose patient with sociopathy
>have them in therapy for months
>they start to show signs of compassion and empathy
>"That clever trickster! He's SUCH a sociopath that he's CONVINCINGLY PRETENDING to not be as sociopathic as I know he is! Clearly these signs of improvement are proof of his condition deepening."
I will never allow myself to be evaluated by a psychologist or psychiatrist for any reason. One wrong answer and you can be slapped with a social death sentence of a diagnosis that you can never escape.

>>15544300
How's neuroscience? Is it ever going to replace psychiatry?

>>15548760
They're quite literally a priest preaching the DSM as "the truth". It's really scary as I've seen a lot of people I know fall into their traps, one of them even committed suicide. Others are drugged up and numb themselves to avoid dealing with life. I understand someone can get desperate in a sense but psychiatry as a "science" needs to be reviewed. They're an emotional mob.

>>15548723
>so that they can burden us financially and physically
Cost hundreds of billions, easily, and turned every major city into a tent city, and drugs! They brought Drugs everywhere!

Its them, theyre the problem!

>>15548760
>One wrong answer and you can be slapped with a social death sentence of a diagnosis that you can never escape.
Is that really how it works in America? Kek what a shithole

>>15548745
>Psychiatrists at least have some understanding of neurology and how behaviour relates to biology
No, they don't. They value these things but do not understand them. It's trivial to convince a psychiatrist to prescribe you any drug in his armamentarium, you just cram a few Wikipedia articles about neurochemistry relevant to the drug you want, and infodump during the appointment. They don't know the first fucking thing about neurochemistry so it isn't difficult to make them believe you know more than they do.
>Psychologists are much worse and blindly, and in a cult-like fashion, follow the DSM.
Psychologists are even easier to impress and influence. They don't understand mathematics beyond their required statistics classes. Nearly everything they talk with you about in a session is about limits in some way, but they don't even know what an epsilon delta proof is. The downside to this is that they don't understand Tarski's undefinability theorem, which is how you get shit like >>15548760
>>15548805

>>15544300
>what other sciences are equally fake?

Why don't mods ban namefags? None of them contribute anything good to this board. All of them leave a pile of shit behind them when they post.

>>15544300
This level of self-consciousness is pretty brutal. I wonder how he sleeps at night, knowing he's been played as the useless idiot of the system for most of his lifetime.

>>15549469
found ya schizo

>>15548944
>Is that really how it works in America?
I doubt it, whenever someone implies schizos are dangerous in American media someone always jumps out and says they aren't particularly dangerous while here it's the opposite.
>>15548993
>you just cram a few Wikipedia articles about neurochemistry relevant to the drug you want, and infodump during the appointment.
You can do that do any doctor.

>>15548723
yeah millions years of evolution favored broken ill junkies to exist, clearly its not the drugs, society and toxic air, water that creates such people, fucking retard
psychiatry is criminal organization, their best work is lobotomy

>>15548745
lol, the whole concept behind depression was debunked
psychiatrists education are in form of spreadsheets from drug cartel

>>15544300
oh dont run away silly, there are bunch of lawsuits ready for you from people that psychiatry has destroyed

>>15547952
>The final redpill is you can't trust any research/science
ftfy

>>15549469
based, fuck namefags

>>15544320
>psychology
>talking and more talking, mambo jambo, yadda yadda yadda
>psychiatry
>take medication, if it works continue taking if not then stop
Sometimes people resort to psychology but I don’t really understand why. Many people suffer from unhappiness because of loneliness, for example, and a psychologist isn’t going to solve that but it’s the current recommended medical treatment. Why, do you really need someone to tell you how to cope with loneliness or how to fix it? You know very well how to fix it. People are just turning their psychologists into pretend buddies. A psychologist is just an overpaid companion for hire.

I don't know why people feel the need to argue about what is and isn't scientific it just looks like monkey shit flinging kek.
I don't really know about the topic, but it sound a bit presumptuous and iffy to implicitly claim that psychiatry has caused a rise in suicide in and of itself rather than considering other factors at play.
People have this weirdly dramatic view like drugs are being pumped down your throat and you're being forced to take them when that isn't the reality. I can understand developing an addiction and can buy into the idea of big pharma making money to an extent but it just sounds hard to believe and contrary to my own experience. There's no way to validify if the patients are even following the recommended treatment. I just don't buy into it.

>>15550300
>People have this weirdly dramatic view like drugs are being pumped down your throat and you're being forced to take them when that isn't the reality.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation

>>15550300
>People have this weirdly dramatic view like drugs are being pumped down your throat and you're being forced to take them when that isn't the reality
but it is reality, people are literally forced to take them in most cases, even underage kids where retarded parents are to blame

>>15550322
my teeth aren't going to rot because you're a schizophrenic

>>15550540
Hey anon, did you see my goalpost? It was right here before, but I think someone moved it.

>>15550529
Thats one of the big problems in child psychiatry. If the doctor tells the parents that they are at fault for the kid's problems then the doctor loses a client. The parents never change their behavior in response to that diagnosis and that is always the diagnosis. When a kid is messed up it is nearly always the parents' fault, but if the doctor says so then the parents just take the kid to a different doctor

>>15544300
>>15544836
Hard agree on sociology. I admit its limited, but almost study I've read especially in my undergrad soc class was dripping in a special sauce of *look at how tragic this is. These people need help.* there seemed to be this undercurrent no matter what I was reading, and it all just felt like story telling or activism more than learn learning

I'm a big fan, but: anthropology and archaeology. So many of the prevailing theories are built off of several layers of transitive induction, and the data sets can be as scant as they come.

>Here's half of a mandible we found in the dirt in morocco therefore homo sapiens is 50,000 years older than previously thought

Not that I have a better suggestion. It's a heroic task to be as clever and imaginative as they are.

>>15544300
Psychology can only take inspiration from science and is only as good as the practitioner. This was known since the beginning but has to be rejected for the industry to justify itself.

>>15544300
In a sense, some also conclude that it is an accident of circumstances that made medicine the background for psychiatry instead of neuroscience. Arguably all science is fake in some way, historically it involves upheavels and changes in method and convention. If you want to go even further then the only defensible method of any serious science is "anything goes." This is especially true for physics.

>>15551500
Muchanson's by proxy should be grounds to have your child taken away.

>>15544300
Social sciences are and have always been fake. Economics too.

>>15544300
Therapy is fake too

>>15549725
Not even your own?
Oh wait, that was assuming you're even remotely capable of performing research.

>>15548993
I have been studying detailed neuropharmacology for years and am probably the type of person who would infodump on medications I'd like to try in a psychiatry appointment.

Are you suggesting that if I became a psychiatrist I would suddenly become an intellectual pushover? To me it sounds like the problem is that most psychiatrists (and doctors in general) just aren't that intelligent or principled, therefore making it difficult to find good ones.

I have seriously considered becoming a psychiatrist just to become one of the "good ones". The primary purpose would be to do research on biomarker identification for treatment outcome prediction and, by extension, better categorization of illness.

>>15545715
>anti-psychotics shrink the brain
Somewhat, but it's mostly due to the disease.
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3476840/

>>15552223
>After 17 to 27 months of treatment, both haloperidol- and olanzapine-treated monkeys had an equivalent and highly significant 8% to 11% decrease in fresh brain weight and volume when compared with the sham group.
Other than that, treatment and disease effects are confounded.

>>15552223
>prescribe the same medication to everyone who has specific mental illness
>study their brains later and see they shrank
>"Hmm, could it be the medication? No, it must be the mental illness that shrinks their brains! Add it to the list of symptoms and carry on with prescription."

>>15549573
>You can do that do any doctor.
I suppose so, but if there's something medically wrong with me then I want a doctor's opinion. I don't go to a psychiatrist for their opinion.
>>15552219
>Are you suggesting that if I became a psychiatrist I would suddenly become an intellectual pushover? To me it sounds like the problem is that most psychiatrists (and doctors in general) just aren't that intelligent or principled, therefore making it difficult to find good ones.
I'm suggesting that if you were a psychiatrist, and that was the only thing I knew about you, then I would assume you were a tool until I had good reason to believe otherwise, and I wouldn't go out of my way to find such reasons. I don't feel that way about doctors in general because other doctors don't resort to force when you disagree with them, only psychiatrists.

>>15550255
Dumbest poster ever, psychiatry is as retarded as psychology, its even worse because psychiatry is way more dangerous when the jew fills your brain with whole mendeleev table of juice

>>15552777
this, these "scientist" are retarded, nepotism puts the most braindead people in research

>>15548723
You mean like when they force fed Hemlock to Socrates for introducing crazy idea to the children?

>>15548805
No, its more like mystery religions where a bunch of different "truths" are competing within the same system for the largest personality cult.

>>15552149
Impossible since all moms have Munchausen by proxy to some degree due to the trauma of child birth.

>>15553454
The thing is, some people actually report the medication working, so psychiatry is an objective science. Just try taking an antidepressant yourself and you will notice it actually affecting your mood and personality, it’s no joke.

>>15552223
>our study suggests that antipsychotics have a subtle but measurable influence on brain tissue loss over time
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3476840/

So your own link says that antipsychotics cause brain shrinkage.

These drugs are abusive, especially since they are given to people against their will. But even if you give people a choice, maybe these drugs just shouldn't be available. Other harmful drugs like heroin are illegal. Heroin and an antipsychotic might give you some temporary feelings of being chilled out, which you may like, but both will harm you.

>Chronic fatigue is repeatedly a common withdrawal symptom of antidepressant discontinuation
https://draxe.com/health/antidepressant-withdrawal-symptoms/

Anyone else had this? I came off antidepressants recently and I feel tired all the fucking time, it's very annoying.

>>15554126
You need to wean off of those as slowly as possible. You should have asked your doctor how to do it correctly.

>>15554116
>bro just like BRO just do drugs for free dopamine lmaoooooo

>>15554156
What a retarded comparison. Just imagine if someone is suicidal, are they supposed to go without treatment?

>>15554168
Depressed and suicidal people have lost meaning and purpose in their lives to varying degrees. The solution is improving their sense of purpose, not getting them high on drugs. They should do things like grow plants, volunteer at an animal shelter or soup kitchen, get a pet... Filling your days with things to do that make you feel needed by others is the best way to combat depression and suicidal thoughts.

>>15551511
Social sciences aren't empirical sciences, so not exact. That doesn't make them a scam.
There's no empirical way to conduct research in sociology and anthropology

>>15554168
Massively overpriced pills that are more likely to kill you than they are to save you don't qualify as treatment.
If any big study ever compared common antidepressants to doing sports as a treatment for depression, I'm certain that doing sports would come out as the better treatment.

>>15554185
Antidepressants are usually taken initially to prevent anything from happening, then they advise them what to do next. People that are truly super suicidal get put on suicide watch or are given drugs to numb them so they don’t commit suicide.

>>15554203
>Antidepressants are usually taken initially to prevent anything from happening, then they advise them what to do next.
I know, that's what's so fucked up about it, because you're forcing them down one of two possible paths:
1. The antidepressants numb them too much to actually bother improving their situation. They FEEL better and made complacent with no drive to make their life better. They depend on the meds to coast through their unfulfilling life.
2. They find motivation to improve their situation (either because of or in spite of the antidepressants) and succeed in doing so, but when they try to come off the meds they crash and feel even worse than they did before despite their life having improved in ways that could have helped their condition if the meds weren't fucking with them. They depend on the meds to feel normal and they feel reliant on them even if they didn't need to be.
This policy of "fuck up your neurotransmitters first, ask questions later" often creates more problems than it solves, but of course fostering dependence on a therapist and prescribed drugs is no skin off the back of the therapist and drug companies who get to take the money for all the visits and drugs.

>>15554348

>>15554150
Yeah but I can't be fucked with that. I don't want to take these drugs any longer. They cause terrible side effects and I don't want any part in that.

Thankfully the one I've taken (Prozac, a.k.a. fluoxetine) has a longer half-life than the others. So it leaves your system more slowly. So it sort of tapers itself.

Think I'll just drink more coffee to counteract feelings of lethargy.

Schizophrenia Before and After Meds | My Story

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCQksKlposk

>>15544858
You sound a massive faggot lol

>>15544833
What real problems?

>>15544320
>The further redpill is that biology and associates are also just as false.

Biology is a type of philosophy, taxonomy Aristotelian final cause ect. Yes it is fake, chemistry and physics (ballistics) only real part.

>>15554624
Nice freudian slip there.

>>15544833
Why would they care about demographics etc?

They choose to train as doctors. Then they choose psychiatry because, I dunno, they're interested in the mind, or because there are financial incentives, etc.

Then they're told to read all these studies funded by drug companies (how convenient) which tell them that psych drugs work.

And sure, the psych drugs do work to some degree, but the whole industry downplays the negative effects. Because if everyone was convinced that psych drugs are a bad idea (which they are) then all these psychiatrists and drug researchers would be out of a job. Because nobody would buy their drugs anymore.

So - of course the psychiatrists don't care about demographics or whatever. They care about shilling for their horrible, harmful "drugs" because it keeps them paid.

>>15554628
Mostly the industrial revolution and its consequences.

>>15553420
Ever heard of Libby Zion? She was killed by an EM resident after she presented to the ER with flu-like symptoms. The resident proceeded to give her pethidine and haloperidol, the former of which interacted with her MAOI and gave her serotonin syndrome. When she attempted to pull our her IVs the resident had her forcibly restrained to her bed, after which her fever soared and she died from cardiac arrest.

It seems like if an inpatient doctor of any type perceives you as being psychotic they will happily restrain and medicate you against your will.

>>15554185
Your problem is you have never experienced what it's like for something to be physically wrong with your brain in a way that impacts your emotions. You can only consult your narrow experiences where your emotions have always been affected by external factors.
What about someone who develops acute depression and suicidality following a TBI with no other cognitive deficits? They're otherwise fine and living the same life they were before, but now the way their brain forms and processes emotions is physically altered.
The job of any good psychiatrist is to figure out if a person's psychiatric issues are due to external or internal causes (or a combination) and to treat accordingly. Shitty psychiatrists exist on both ends of the spectrum (and psychologists usually exist only one end).

>>15554946
>Your problem is you have never experienced what it's like for something to be physically wrong with your brain in a way that impacts your emotions.
The chemical imbalance theory of depression was literally debunked.
>What about someone who develops acute depression and suicidality following a TBI with no other cognitive deficits?
Are there any actual examples of this happening or are you just pulling a hypothetical out of your ass? I know there are cases of brain damage causing personality changes, but specifically ones involving depression and suicidal thoughts?

>>15548993

>No, they don't. They value these things but do not understand them. It's trivial to convince a psychiatrist to prescribe you any drug in his armamentarium, you just cram a few Wikipedia articles about neurochemistry relevant to the drug you want, and infodump during the appointment. They don't know the first fucking thing about neurochemistry so it isn't difficult to make them believe you know more than they do.

Euh, I don't know what shithole country you're from but a psychiatrist is usually trained in the basics of neurobiology.

>Psychologists are even easier to impress and influence. They don't understand mathematics beyond their required statistics classes. Nearly everything they talk with you about in a session is about limits in some way, but they don't even know what an epsilon delta proof is. The downside to this is that they don't understand Tarski's undefinability theorem, which is how you get shit like >>15548760

Lay off the drugs for a while, buddy.

>>15554946
>What about someone who develops acute depression and suicidality following a TBI with no other cognitive deficits?
Surely they would be seen by a neurologist instead of a psychiatrist. Which just confirms that psychiatry is nonsense. Actual diagnosable brain problems are treated by neurologists, not psychiatrists.

Psychiatry is a fantasy, where people exhibit emotional distress, and non-existent "illnesses" of their brains are conjured up, to try and explain why they're behaving this way.

But like I say, real physical brain differences are dealt with by neurologists. And if no real physical brain difference is found, then the reason for the patient's different behaviour is the events in their life, that they're emotionally reacting to.

>>15554959
>The chemical imbalance theory of depression was literally debunked.
Who said anything about a chemical imbalance? It's starting to sound like you know nothing about neuroscience if that's where your mind went.
>Are there any actual examples of this happening or are you just pulling a hypothetical out of your ass?
Clearly you aren't discussing in good faith if you'd rather wait 2.5 hours for my reply than do a quick literature search yourself.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/481944

>>15554969
I agree that mood and other "psychiatric" disorders should be considered a specialized subset of neurology, as the dichotomy is a result of historical ignorance. Of course this is specifically for actual (pathological) disorders, as anyone else should be seeing a therapist instead of a doctor. The core problem with neurology taking it over though is that they don't have any additional tools available for diagnosis or treatment. Psychiatrists already can order EEGs or fMRIs, but insurance isn't going to cover it. Nonpharmacological treatments like ECT, TMS, and VNS are already regularly used by psychiatrists.

>>15555136
Between pic related table and statements like this:
>Although patients with major depression and TBI ... were significantly impaired in neuropsychological tests assessing executive functioning.
I don't think it's as clear-cut as you were trying to make it sound. The TBI patients with depression were largely people with a history of mood disorders who struggled with other problems resulting from their brain injury. That's also saying nothing of the psychological trauma of whatever accident caused the brain injury or the ways in which it may have interrupted their lives while they had to spend time recovering. Even just having to deal with the medical bills could trigger depression, especially in groups of people who tend to have a history with reacting to things with depressive symptoms.

>>15544300
>what other sciences are equally fake?
Physiology
Not because it doesn't have any predictive power, but because there are so many black boxes that to assume just about anything without experimentation is impossible

>>15554936
Was she given haloperidol for flu, or did she come in for flu and was given haloperidol because she was already a psych patient? Not absolving the medical personnel who proximally caused her death, but psychiatry was involved.
>>15554967
>I don't know what shithole country you're from
America
>a psychiatrist is usually trained in the basics of neurobiology
"don't know the first fucking thing" was admittedly a harsh exaggeration. I disapprove of one-dimensional "insert drug A into symptom B" prescribing. For example, "the Wellbutrin seems to be helping with your depression, but you seem to be dealing a lot of anxiety, let's add Ativan as needed, oh and have you tried Seroquel? It's great!" vs. "the Wellbutrin seems to be helping with your depression, but you seem to be dealing a lot of anxiety. That could be due to the Wellbutrin increasing the free adrenaline in your system, so let's try a beta blocker to prevent your body from using it. If that helps, we should titrate the Wellbutrin to a lower dose and re-evaluate." True story, the former is the solution I was offered, the latter is the one I came up with after reading a few Wikipedia articles.
>Lay off the drugs for a while, buddy.
Just the Wellbutrin, fren. The logic of DSM diagnostics doesn't permit a concept of negation, as a previous diagnosis can't be invalidated by diagnostic process, at most the diagnosis can be found no longer evident. Without a negation operator, the logic isn't strong enough for the Undefinability Theorem to apply. As a result, the diagnosis is a millstone around the patient's neck, never even admitting the possibility of dialectical development. Most psychologists understand this subconsciously, they "don't really like diagnostic labels" but "they're necessary for billing purposes."

>>15544300
a lot of psychology theory is true and helpful.
The problem is with how mental health companies operate. They need improvements. Government, insurance, and drug companies influence them or add a bunch of stupid rules that make it not as effective.

>>15547906
It was convenient to the fictional story to put him in that scenario.

>>15549495

>>15555422
>just let psychologists and psychiatrists do whatever they want without regulation and things will be better
lol, no way fag. That's a recipe for disaster.

>>15555422
Psychology is alright. Psychiatry is not. Psychiatry is abuse.

>>15544300
oy vey thats $300 for our 1 hr therapy session

depression cant be cured, come back every 2 weeks for 50 years

oyyyy

>>15555433
>It was convenient
[hand wave away the point so as to not look like you made a logical error and still can pretend superiority through feigned ignorance]

Waaa_pikachu.jpg

>>15553454
>any substance that affects your brain is Jewish
Ironically enough it's people like you that need to be medicated the most.

>>15554126
Yeah I came off lexapro and if i wasn't working or eating i was sleeping. Lasted a couple months. Just take some caffeine you'll be fine.

>>15556024
I see, thanks. Yeah I guess I'll drink coffee to help things.

Apparently the elimination half-life of your drug is about 30 hours, while for Prozac, which I took, it's 96 to 144 hours, so that's like 3 to 4 times as long. Hopefully that doesn't mean I'll get withdrawals for 3 to 4 times as long.

https://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/drugs-and-treatments/antidepressants/comparing-antidepressants/

>>15555967
"The point" was some half ass reference to mythological nonsense.

>>15556093
NTA but it's not so much the elimination half-life that you need to wait out. Your body isn't producing as much serotonin as it's supposed to because the Prozac made it so the same amount of serotonin would go further, so your production decreased to compensate. You need to wait until your production resets to a new baseline, and hope that the new baseline is manageable.

>>15544300
I just use my diagnoses as justification for disability funding. Psychiatry does nothing to help me. Psychology may give me insight, but the cores of keeping healthy remains the same: sleep right, eat right, have the right friends, etc.

>>15556103
>half ass
F-, GET OUT.

/b/ is more your speed, they wont expect extrapolations or abstractions, just spoon fed "tell me wat do".

>>15556277
checked
>I just use my diagnoses as justification for disability funding
based

>>15544300
Experimental psychology is painfully fake and gay.
>Milgram experiment results were cherrypicked like crazy (most participants figured out that the person they were "shocking" weren't actually being shocked, so they pressed the button knowing that nobody was in any danger).
>Phil Zimbardo straight-up lied about the Stanford Prison Experiment (guards were instructed on how to behave, prisoners weren't actually allowed to leave at any time)

>>15556277
Any resources on how to disabilitymaxx without ending up institutionalized, drugged, or spending an arm and a leg on regular therapy?

>>15556159
Yeah you're probably right. Wish I had never taken these stupid fucking drugs.

>>15556676
Evolutionary psychology is where it's at. Figuring out WHY we have certain psychological features.

>>15556681
>hay guise any tips on getting into the NHL without learning to play hockey or even skate?

>>15556744
Evo psych is even dumber.
It's unfalsifiable nonsense.

>>15544300
>If so, what other sciences are equally fake?

Virology is a far bigger scam than anything in psychology.

https://amidwesterndoctor.substack.com/p/the-evidence-for-antidepressants

>>15557464
true
https://viroliegy.com/

>>15557464
If virology isn't real then there's no need for water treatment plants. Enjoy your rainwater.

>>15558057
What a retarded comment are you implying only viruses(do not exist) cause sickeness?

>>15558063
Viruses obviously exist and cause sickness, like the Covid virus.

But obviously viruses are not the ONLY cause of sickness. Bacteria also cause sickness in many cases. And bacteria are different to viruses.

>>15558101
>Bacteria also cause sickness in many cases.
Never proven. Bacteria often show up at the site of sickness but no one has ever shown they cause it. It's like stumbling on a deer carcass in the woods and blaming the maggots for killing it.

>>15558101
>like the Covid virus
Ilumina inc sequencer enjoyer

> Person sick
> take sick persons mucus
> add it to monkey kidney cells
> add genetic contaminants, like bovine embryonic calf serum
> add toxic to kidney antibiotics like Streptomycin, Neomycin, Gentamycin
> then wait
> if monkey kidney cell dies
> then look at the cell debris on a STILL image
> done via Electron microscopy (because its in the nano size Spectrum)
> which requires toxic staining (uranyl acetate)
> dry freezing
> and then shooting it with hot electrons
> then only see some phages and exosomes of dead monkey kidney cell
> interpret these as virus
> then DO NOT take a single nano sized of these "as Virus suspected" partices
> BUT take the concoction with the antibiotics and monkey cells
> which is contaminated with different Genetic material, such as calf DNA and Monkey kidney DNA
> then shredd it so the DNA and RNA breaks into pieces
> then put them into a sequencer mostly by Illumina Inc.
> tell the machine "It is xy virus"
> then it assembles the shreds of genetic material, to what you predict it is
> this must be the cause of the disease
> self fullfilling prophecy
> and never within these experiments, they take the particle (virus cells) they claim causes the disease
> and infect some other organism with it to prove that this causes the same range of symptoms
> they skip this
> no scientific method applied
> just interpretation of dead monkey kidney cell debris which was poisoned, starved and contaminated
> and never acknowledging the noise of the experiment or absence of any control

>>15558119
I very much have my doubts about virology however a lot less about bacteria causing sickness. Manly because i can observe the effects myself like getting ignited fingernails after biting on it with dirty teeth

>>15558145
Yes, because only bacteria could possibly cause inflammation. Nothing about the chemical makeup of your saliva, trace remnants of food, or even the physical agitation from being bitten could possibly cause pain and inflammation at the site of a part of your body that you just bit with your teeth. One day I tripped and skinned my knee on the sidewalk. When I looked at my knee I found that bacteria had torn open my skin and drawn blood from the wound. I even felt a painful burning sensation from all the bacteria biting me and the skin surrounding the affected area was becoming inflamed and bloated with mountains of bacteria! What other explanation could there be???

>>15558170
Fingernails do not get ingnited as fast when biting it with clean teeth. Why does alcohol help against a infected wound if its not bacteria causing it?

>>15558187
Alcohol is a solvent and it washes away things other than just bacteria. You can't wash away everything in the wound and then claim that only one of the things you washed away was definitely solely responsible for the inflammatory response when it dies down after.

>>15558197
Why do i get food poisoning from eating mutiple days old food on room temprature

>>15544300
It is true that American society is overrun with corruption. It infects every industry AFAIK. Its basically just capitalism.

>>15558214
Because the food spoils and becomes toxic on its own. Yes, there are certain types of bacteria which will flourish eating that spoiled food, and yes you'll end up finding them in your gut after eating the food, but where's the actual evidence that the bacteria cause the illness? A proper control would be to take a perfectly clean culture of listeria or e. coli or something with no contaminants and let someone swallow that and see if it makes them sick without the confounding factor of spoiled food. Where's that study?

>>15544858
Lmao how does he convo go to where every therapists says your smarter than them? Guessing you try an act like a smart ass in front of them and hopefully not just declare it lol.
>I AM SMART. Smarter than you!
>sure anon, whatever you say

Sounds like a who thing and Pretty sure a physiologist isn’t going to argue with you since they are usually professionals who are trying to bring your walls down, not put more up by defending themselves in something petty.

>>15558311
>Lmao how does he convo go to where every therapists says your smarter than them?
Last time he asked to do an intelligencd test of some sort.

Thats how it goes, when I counter check every one of their checks they have to do something other than "Assume superiority."

>Lmao
A clapping monkey, you are...youre not a genuine person because youre delusional in your own ignorance.

Ignorance cannot be countered with intelligence for it couldnt care less about the Truth.

>>15544300
A psychiatrist is there to help you with shit when things are getting ridiculous around you.

That guy is an old boomer having a stroke. The object of psychiatry is not how behavior is generated, nor is suicide prevention.

>>15558214
Because you didn't pretreat your stomach with bleach, dumbass.

>>15555967
Anon, you have already proven you’re an insecure retard by how you conducted yourself in this thread.

Intellect is apparently a soft spot for you, and I apologize that you have to live through life with that insecurity.

But the more you act the way you’re acting in this thread, the more your insecurity will become reality and people genuinely will think you’re a retard trying to look smart.

This is also why your therapist told you that you were smarter than them. They acknowledge your insecurity and likely want to help you with overcoming it.
>but I don’t fucking know you, so just reread what you posted and consider why people may think that of you.

>>15558321
And I’ve got an iq of 140 and don’t feel the need to make sure others know I am smart.
>so why do you?

>>15558333
..but that isnt where the problem comes from.

>>15558339
>proven
Youre retarded and intellectually dishonest.

I will not engage in a dishonest debate with someone that will simply ignore a checkmate because it is their PRIDE and EGO I am debating, not a Scientist.

Go back to /pol/, youre a tourist here.

>>15558350
>namefag calling someone else prideful with a big ego
>doesn't even say anything, just cries about another board
Shut up. Not that anon either. Just shut up.

>>15558346
>I’ve got an iq of 140
Why did you?

LIARS EVEN UNTO THEMSELVES, THEY BELIEVE.

>>15558354
I have a problem with LIARS.

That isnt Pride or Ego...its a problem with LIARS.

You can only see pride because YOU ARE PRIDE AND EGO. Grow the fuck up, man-children, your bullshit is rejected.

>>15558357
You're just spamming incoherent gibberish, and you format your posts like a retard, and you apparently think adding a pic to every post that has no relevance gives your words more weight. Just shut up.

>>15558362
>incoherent
Filtered.

Try again in another thread under the name "Anonymous", otherwise your stupidity will be carried over to every thread you post it.

>>15558350
I just got in this thread anon, I apologize for not saying so in my last post.

You were not debating, you were giving arguments of authority based on being smarter. That isn’t an intellectual debate.
>>15547906 Id also argue with you that Jesus would never approach a discussion with the same callousness and disrespect as you have.

>>15558376
>Jesus would never approach a discussion with the same callousness and disrespect as you have
Correct. You need to be more honest with reality and stop caring about affirming your emotional narrative "Im smart and no way some dude is smarter than ME!"

You what its like being a hyper-savant. U feel normal...completely Normal...everyone else seems utterly retarded, even PhD holding "certified scientists" seem retarded, psy-op'd, deluded into believing the certificate is the intelligence.

YOU MAKE LOGICAL ERRORS.
"Aint noone the smartest man alive."

>>15547906
"...andd why would he hang out with midwit commoners?!"

Youre using your own intelligence as a metric for intelligence beyond yours, square peg round hole, so you toss it out as dumb.

THAT IS RETARDED AND IDOLATRY OF THE SELF.

>>15558355
Good question.
In my mind I thought you would listen to me. However, I realize I am just playing the same games you’re playing by doing so.

>>15558394
>You know* what its like being a hyper-savant. I* feel normal...

>>15558396
Hey......DUMBFUCK......I am being beratted by multiple people using the same name...Youre basically the same moron.

I THOUGHT YOU WERE SMART, MR.140-MIDWIT....

>>15558119
>>15558128
Jesus Christ what drugs have you been taking?

You people are disingenuous shitbags who ignore EVERYTHING against your arguments and assume validated every point you make.

CLASSIC gaslighting, "no u r, no i am". Infantile approaches, bad faith, then they cry victim because theyre dishonorable cowards that hate feeling shamed by their own failures. Spit in another's face then cry foul when they get spit back on, DISGUSTING behavior from "grown men".

I CAN SEE YOUR SOULS THROUGH THE WIRE.

>>15556676
but yet 2020-2021 taught us that people absolutely will be inhuman and cruel to each other as long as it is encouraged or condoned by a someone they're told is an "expert" or "authority"

>>15558432
Literally what the fuck are you talking about

People who criticise psychiatry are "disingenuous"? How?

>>15558427
You quoted 2 different people im not the guy not believing in germ theory. However whatever you can only gaslight and ridicule anyway try to form a coherent argument drooling niggercattle

>>15544909
Post your degree or fuck off back into hell where you belong

>>15558473
>Ascribing humanity to NPCs.
lol
lmao

>>15558473
Online interaction and in-person interaction are inherently different.
It's not an apples to apples comparison.

>>15554631
>Yes it is fake
Some of it, maybe. But biochemistry is real, biotech revolution happening right now is very real. Even though replication crisis is happening, it happens in your beloved physics on much larger scale, some whole fields of physics are fraudulent to the core.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5dvUVuwcxg

>>15544894
what the fuck is this post, you fucking schizo, go back to kiwifarms

>>15558830
shills sent a brainwashed retard to shit the thread up to prove psychiatry is needed

>>15544300
its fake and gay, like all other jewish science

>>15559860
15% of all posts in this thread are from that one guy

>>15559372
Yea but he is probably talking about all the actual video evidence of people being harassed, thrown out of food distribution centers, arrested, fired, and otherwise publicly shamed for not complying with useless mask guidelines rather than any mean spirited online banter.

>>15544300
So how do i fix my psychological issues?

>>15561449
step one define and confront

step two live in conflict or move on

step three don't go back to discovering the issue

>>15561464
>step one define and confront
i have anger issues. i am confronting them by telling you.
>step two live in conflict or move on
how do i move on? just forget about it?
>step three don't go back to discovering the issue
i no longer have anger issues?

>>15556676
anon did you at least read the wiki for milgram? they made many variations with the same result

>>15558830
>I dont understand whats going on!
Yeah, youre retarded, I dont expect better from you.
>>15559157
>I dont understand whats going on!
Yeah, youre retarded, I dont expect better from you
BOTH OF YOU PRETEND TO BE SMART.

THIS IS A LIE. YOU ARE RETARDED.

STOP LYING.

>>15547952
>The final redpill is you can't trust any research/science
the final redpill is that it was the germans all along.

>>15547952
>>15563383
How is the basic premise of science supposed to be its final red pill? "don't take anything on faith" is literally the whole fucking point you idiots

I'm gay

>>15563771
Male and female are seperate species that hybridized a long time ago, I believe this is where RNA became *Double-Helix* comes from, the same hybridizatiion. So if you want to be technical, there is only one gender for each species but theyve been conjoined in symbiosis. Humanity can sense this but they have no concept of Evolutionary Biology or Genetics so they everything they say about it is wrong. Both cant even define "What is a woman."

The left says everyone is trans (hybridization/symbiosis) and the right says "Thats a man." when its a woman with a vagina and uterus. Both are only half right but half right for all the wrong reasons...you know, because the world is scientifically illiterate.

Penis and vagina relationships can still be defined as a "homo-sexual" relationship in heaven, its very confusing sometimes to see beyond humans.

Its wierd to be around so much kinky stuff.

>>15544330
I actively hate the dsm as a non american and i hate how dated everything in it is despite the fact that its a collab between 300

psychiatry was ok back when they were using electroshock & lobotomies & locking up homosexuals in insane asylums

>>15564772
Ect is still used, and i think lobotomy is used for some seizures and apparently schizophrenia (though idk)

>>15561449
just stop being a faggot

>>15565807
i'm not being a faggot. i just have a bad set of genetics. my parents were alright, i just got all the downsides they had, and none of the benefits.

>>15565809
Blaming uncontrollable external factors for everything that goes wrong will only ensure you stay stuck in patterns of failure. You have to accept that you're being a faggot in order to escape the faggotry that's making you miserable.

>>15566720
The uncontrollable factors have hindered me at every turn though. It's not minor stuff is what I'm saying.

>>15566987
faggot moans more excuses

>>15544300
>Are they correct?
yes they are. scrap the field.

>>15567390
what other fields of science are fake and gay?

>>15544330
There is only one real psychiatric disease: schizophrenia - when your brain does not comprehend reality correctly.

Everything else in psychiatry and psychology is bullshit.

>>15568109
>schizophrenia - when your brain does not comprehend reality correctly
Not even that has been proven completely.

>>15544300
they're absolutely correct (I work in mental health) but how else are we going to impris -- sorry, rehabilitate -- people who threaten other people's liberties by acting abnormally?

>psycho "science"
>relative to most midwits, which defines what "normal" is
>most humans are split personality psychopaths.
>"science" telling you you are objectively wrong because you are not a split personality psychopath.

>>15548760
Speaking of getting your life fucked by a "lifetime" diagnosis, is there any way to recover from this? My entire career path got fucked by random delusional shit like this

>>15568663
Twenty years ago you could just go off-grid for a decade, then find a new psychiatrist and carefully lead them to the correct diagnosis while omitting any and all references to your past diagnosis. Nowadays with electronic medical records, there's no such escape. Thanks, Obama!

>>15568109
like sluggish schizophrenia that has no symptoms but was used by USSR to jail political enemies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sluggish_schizophrenia

youre whole field is fake and criminal

>>15568824
>used by USSR to jail political enemies
So an entrepreneur?

>>15544300

It is a failed bandaid for the absence of Christ.

>>15544300
Its all just talmudic circular logic

If you have a psychological problem, either it will fix itself, or it'll contribute to your demise.
No point in worrying about it.

>>15544300
ask your professional for a diagnosis, as in what is that they are treating

>>15569232
Ride the lightning, brother.

>>15569924
>ask your professional for a diagnosis, as in what is
most profitable for them. doctors always give the diagnosis that makes them the most money

Bump

>>15567038
errrrry single time

>>15571700
>>15567038
If you're inherently the issue with bad genes, I don't get how you consider that a fixable issue.

>>15568091
Pretty much all of them. The peer review process guarantees that all accepted scientific narratives are those that are emotionally pleasing to the midwit majority rather than those that reflect the nature of reality

>>15544300
There’s no way to prove any of the theories suggested by psychiatrists which is how science actually works. They just reflect their own thoughts and perversioita to others.

>>15544320
What do I do if I have severe anxiety?

>>15573013
cope

>>15573834
Kek
Do I sneed too?

>>15573867
whatever floats your boat

>>15571900
evolution fixes all genetic mistakes

>>15573013
Stop doing that. Just stop it.

>>15573013
I think anxiety happens when you lack competency. Like if your social skills are bad and you are in a public place. Or if you are bad at math, then you'll get anxiety in math class. Obviously not something a psychologist will help you fix, it takes time (years) and hard work.

>>15572869
>which is how science actually works
no, science has actual facts and logic, you can make experiment which prove scientific claim
atom bomb explodes, thats it, there are no opinions that will change it

>>15577657
>atom bomb
>believes atoms exist
ALL. IS. LIGHT.

>>15577657
>science works by proving theory through experimentation
>NO! science works by proving theory through experimentation!
Retarded ESL.

>>15577873
not for psychiatry, monkey

>>15577930
Then psychiatry isn't science.

>>15577873
>science works by generating profits for drug companies

>>15577943
correct

>>15578480
Glad we agree, now stop smugly declaring people who agree with you to be wrong.

>>15544300
When normies wake up to the truth about the matrix

>>15578874
screenshot is spot on. basically never trust establishment niggas. they're all disloyal and see your empathy as weakness.

>>15572869
>They just reflect their own thoughts and perversioita to others.
isn't this what cowards do.

>>15569232
>If you have a psychological problem, either it will fix itself, or it'll contribute to your demise.
for me, this biggest turn around is knowing your enemies. all thinking men know they have enemies and to not be too trusting or gates of hell swing open. the way we have the establishment set up now is young people have a ton of resources and no idea what to do with it.

friends far away enemies closer. life becomes a game of chess. you got the drop on them or they got the drop on you.

>>15578874
>>15578952
had a stroke in left half of brain if anyone wanted to ask me questions

>>15578956
>had a stroke in left half of brain if anyone wanted to ask me questions
What does that have to do with the posts you quoted.

>>15578956
>had a stroke in left half of brain if anyone wanted to ask me questions
What does that have to do with the posts you quoted?

If psychiatry is fake then what other branches of science are also fake?

>>15544833
>collapsing demographics and economies and societies

This is for sure causing all kinds of mental problems and I don't think people even realize it.

It is like what do you mean you have very high anxiety all the time?

It is as if being in fight or flight mode all the time because you are corrupted by enemy tribes causes stress or something.

It cannot be that it must be that people are sad because the government does not manage the means of production.

>>15544836
>eugenics are pseudo

LOL nice try.

Why people kill themselves if this is against our nature and instincts?

>>15580156
>Why people kill themselves if this is against our nature and instincts?
Our mental mind make our maps, and if its not in our kind it is equal to not existing at all. People that cannot figure out how to escape their problems will feel equally as being locked in a single room.

The teenager that an heros because school kids bullied her online, in her world there was no option to escape, simply leaving and not going back wasnt one, so it did not exist.

>>15580166
>and if its not in our mind* it is equal to not existing at all.

>>15580166
So, I can kill myself and it will be absolute right, because I cannot figure out how escape my problems?

>>15580174
>simply leaving and not going back wasnt one
Ever moved to a new city to be reborne again, a sinful little heretic? Maybe the problem isnt even you...maybe its everyone else, give it try.

Out with the old, in with the new, amen.

>>15580180
this fucking depression don't give me enough energy for doing something non-retarded. Even showering is hard af

>>15580186
Thats because the option to relax is available, make it unavailable. If sleeping in was an option then soldiers wouldnt get out of bed, they MUST do the job.

Go backpacking on a one way ticket, dont come back until you want to. Your envirnement is the problem, I already explained this.

Reread my postes, youre reading me like Im a fool blowing hot farts.

>>15544300
>If so, what other sciences are equally fake?
climate science is fake af

>>15544300
>I've been practicing psychiatry for 38 years.
That's a lot of practice, but how much psychiatry has he actually performed?

>>15581137
none, its a fake discipline

>>15581129
So is astronomy and cosmology

>>15583481
>cosmology
not a science, doesn't have the possibility of repeatable experiments
sample size = 1

I'm a recovering psychotic on meds right now. What the hell am I supposed to do if meds aren't an option

>>15585474
Face the demons head on.