/sci/ - Science & Math

I hate the metric system.

pretentious

>>15561145
You’re so cool can I suck your cock

Who did it best?

>>15561170
Is this a serious question?

>>15561145
Based.

When are metric niggers going to convert their time units to base 10 exclusively and stop appropriating systems with superior composition

>>15561170
It depends on what your metrics for success are. Blue Moon is a capable incarnation of "what NASA wants" without being a soulless rendition of a NASA placeholder render. China's lander is too basic for anything beyond flags-and-footprints missions but by that same coin it's also the most likely to be successful. Starship HLS is absurdly oversized compared to the RFP but that makes it exactly the sort of thing you really need if you want to set up a permanent lunar outpost.

>>15561170
Watching moonship land for the first time is going to be wild.

do you guys think Chandrayaan-3 is going to land this time?

>>15561170
None of them did anything so far.
Ask again once someone has actually done it.

>>15561145
I hate the imperial system. Retards always forget to do basic conversion and then pancake half a billion dollar probes into some planet. I hope we can round you faggots up and launch you towards space Australia.

>>15561170
>middle
>tag: prolapse

>>15561170
China only becuase it’s about fucking time someone just did an orbital assembly in two parts. It’s something I’ve always wanted

>>15561198
Actually, numerous engineers at NASA informed their superior about inconsistent data.
They were admonished for failure to report through proper channels.

The failure of those probes was bureaucracy, not units.
NASA's report levied absolutely no blame at Lockheed.

https://twitter.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1679638671526449153

Orbital vid teaser

>>15561050
>>15561074
I feel bad for Japanese space fans. It's just been L after L for their space industry for the last year or so.

https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1679676852670025728

JAXA's Epsilon S Solid rocket motor exploded during test.

Skip to ~50 secs

>>15561204
Before Kathy's involvement in CCS/CCR, NASA was an old boys club. Even now, external forces are trying to turn the clock back on it. Shock surprise.

>>15561132
>>15561135
>>15561143
I dunno Anons I see multiple dictionary sites saying it's a correct usage akin to "in fact".

Are there any realistic, feasible concepts for lunar mining?

>>15561212
they're not supposed to do that are they?

>>15561223
Kek I was just about to chime in on this. I can’t let it go.
>In the event, it was not, and would not be until 2022.
What the FUCK does this mean bros?

>>15561226
Test is a test

>>15561223
In the event, it's a UK idiom, and it sounds absolutely bizarre.

>>15561254
So this is case of American usage bucking up against UK usage.

>another vaporware space station edition

noooo I missed the stream. didn't get to hear Clear's live reaction.

>>15561258
I wouldn't put it past either of these coming to exist since they share a same goal of mass production and buying Starship launches and then slot in experiments or whatever into the walls, but leave that up to the person buying the station.

How is this as a configuration for a small/medium lift launcher?

>first stage
>x7 gas generator cycle engine (C3H8 + LOX)

>second stage
>x1 pressure fed engine (C3H8 + NO2)

>>15561212
Didn't it blow up once already? That's solids for ya.

>>15561170
Landing on the moon is a team effort. Starship can get us to the moon, but how do you get from Starship down to the surface? That's where Blue Origin comes in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6PSgMcVmyo

Clear what are you doing you're gonna get doxxed!

I'm optimistic that SpaceX is going to unlock a ton of formerly science fiction ideas into reality. (i.e. orbital manufacturing, asteroid mining, offworld colonies, etc.) -- just look at the upmass in pic rel.

How do I invest in this new future without getting scammed by obvious scams (like Mars One, ARCAspace) or more elaborate ones hiding behind SPACs? How many $ do I need to be able to buy into SpaceX directly?

>>15561170
Apollo
I also wanted to see the Soviet lunar lander work

>>15561317
I think it's $500k minimum during the funding rounds. You could set up a SPAC just for that purpose, pool funds with other interested parties.

>>15561210
>>15561212
>>15561262
did it make Clear cry?

>>15561317
>1 new rocket per month, for 48 months
>30 launches per months
Under what circumstances would such demand possibly arise?

gaze upon him: sub-retard spacex regurgitator and elonion orbiter extraordinaire

>>15561339
He does have the downs look, absolutely mindless

>>15561317
Expect at most 1 Starship launch per month by 2030 at best
>u naysayer!!!!!
This is already many times better than our current space capabilities, 12 Starship launches per year would be a massive victory

>>15561298
i can almost taste her

>>15561349
I think it isn’t outside the realm of possibility to see 1 launch a week by 2030, as long as they can create enough demand to see more payloads constructed.

>>15561170
blue origin, most realistic
spacex most full of lies, price dumping
middle ???? idk

>hold hold hold
COME ON

HLOD!

>>15561339
>>15561349
>>15561357
dilate

wait hold on
HOW many engines a quarter, Jeff?

>>15561366
now that i have your attention,
you are a fucking retard. look at your dumb retard face, retard beard, beady retard eyes and awful retard hair. pasty retard skin sweating retard mug. you are an ugly ginger retard and you are puffy

well at least we still have our pajeet bros in 4 hours

>>15561371
what's decollage in sirs language

>>15561366
SpaceX shares are cratering, bagholders are desperate to sell but the buyers just aren't there.

rogbros....

>>15561384
it's rover...

>>15561380
I sold out of spacex years ago when i found out elon was CEO

>>15561380
>>15561398
kek

>>15561355
>>15561338
If they can't fill payloads with customer stuff, they can send up propellant and build and fill absolutely massive tank farms in orbit. They can also stash building materials (maybe girders/plates/whatever, which can be assembled and/or sold later.
Here are some calcs for a colossal 200m diameter pressure vessel made of 8cm thick stainless steel. Would take 552 starship trips to get all the steel up, then it would take an additional 149 trips to fill with methane or 307 trips to fill with oxygen.

>>15561409
building up a cache of materials in L4 or L5 would be epiccccc

>>15561414
>>15561409
>bring up a massive superconducting magnet, a nuclear reactor, and a whole lot of radiators
>tow it to Sun-Mars L1

>>15561421
Wasn't there some study that found you only needed a few kW to make radiation a non-issue on Mars? It was posted here a long time ago but I never found it again.

>>15561409
>8cm
why?
>123psi
why?
>6.4x largest oil tanker
why?
To what end?

>>15561428
>To what end?
To store propellant in the ball

>>15561421
what's going to keep it there after humans stop maintaining it

>>15561434
if humans are abandoning core orbital infrastructure any survivors on Mars are gonna have a bad time anyways

>>15561439
I have no confidence in the longevity of this species! This thing should be such a monolith that it does not need attention for a million years.

>>15561443
You probably could but it would be exponentially more expensive to at best become a neat precursor race goody ten millions years after we're gone

>>15561428
I used 123 PSI (aka 8.5 bar) because the starship tanks are tested to that.

For the radius, I think I picked 100m because I wanted to make it ostentatiously large.

And then the hoop strength determines the 8cm wall thickness. I'm certain my solution isn't optimal, so have a crack at it if you want!

>>15561455
also, here's my 1000 hours in mspaint drawing of how a depot would work.

>>15561465
I still prefer this

What music should be a staple of Martian life? Feels like old west music might make a resurgence, seeing as Martian dust storms are just the dirty 30s without oxygen.

Reminder that it's over

https://twitter.com/SpcPlcyOnline/status/1679543642816675845

https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/07/ula-finds-root-cause-of-vulcan-failure-sets-path-toward-debut-launch/

>>15561555
https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/07/the-senate-just-lobbed-a-tactical-nuke-at-nasas-mars-sample-return-program/

can't link to the previous thread anymore, it had a post about this

>>15561560
you cannot count on america ^_^

https://spacenews.com/centaur-modifications-push-first-vulcan-launch-to-fourth-quarter/

>>15561562
https://www.space.com/ula-vulcan-rocket-first-flight-delay-late-2023

https://www.space.com/nasa-orders-more-spacesuits-for-moon-space-station

>>15561566
https://spacenews.com/nasa-awards-crossover-spacesuit-task-orders-to-axiom-and-collins/

jeff foust article about the same thing from 4 days ago

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/13/elon-musk-spacex-near-150-billion-valuation.html

he can't keep getting away with it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2ueCg9bvvQ

Chandrayaan-3 mission launch in about 1.5h, official stream starting in 45min

>>15561170
Starship of course

>>15561553
Starcraft 1 Terran music
https://youtu.be/S41XFYRX6Bs?t=67

>>15561573
insallah misson will success

>>15561181
they tried that in france after the conversion to metric but it didn't stick

>>15561193
I'm pessimistic, for some reason that seems to be difficult

>>15561380
150 bil now lol >>15561569

>>15561455
wouldnt it make sense to have distributed depots instead of one massive one so that a problem with one (sabotage, errant debris hitting it, an asteroid, some system malfunction causing it to deorbit) would not destroy everything but only one distributed unit
having many would also mean it would be easier to fill multiple starship missions that need that propellant simultaneously much easier

>>15561573
Live

over 250k viewers lol

Flight sequence

The moon redeemenings.

just woke up, what's happening?

>>15561631
about 20min until a indian moon rover mission launches
it launches 9:05 UTC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2ueCg9bvvQ

Yeah, we can watch the stream no need to redeem every frame.

>over 500 thousand people watching

Is it really that big of a deal

Imagine the smell

>>15561644
well for india it is I guess

>>15561638
based poos, I hope it goes better than last time.

>>15561644
they're competing for fourth country to make an uncrewed landing on the moon, aren't they? I'd say that's a big deal.

That much interest for a fucking moon rover.
Meanwhile NASA has to enlist the help of pop culture to generate hype for Artemis.
https://twitter.com/NASA/status/1679494270808457216

>>15561631
good morning sir

>Half a million excited Indians watching there nation achieve something instead of complaining about how <1% of taxes goes towards scientific development
The west has fallen. Millions must be glassed from orbit.

>>15561653
746k watchers now

>>15561653
There's a story about microsatellite that my university was building I'll tell it later

>>15561656
It's 867k already in just a minute.

REDEEM THE ROCKET SIRS.
DO THE NEEDFUL!

>>15561653
Nasa has become too conservative on dangerous missions or too scientific on some and do shit like the crap camera on the juno probe.

There is a balance to be sure on goals and safety but nasa does not has it how the fuck they never used orion with people is beyond me.

Also why make the service module cucked as it is right now instead of a chad servive module like in the apollo csm?

Cowspeed Chandrayaan

Clear san https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2FSFE3QHTYE

kill all vtuberfaggots

T-5 minutes

>over a billion people watching

>>15561673
*million
I'm a fucking retard

COWSPEEED

>>15561680
Nice pic

>>15561673
1.757 mil

The rest of world is 40 years behind america in optics

so about 10 minute burn now before satellite separation

HYDROLOGGS :DDDD

JIMBAL

>>15561695
I was promised it would blow up wtf

good morning sirs

jai Hind IRSO >>>>> nasa

>>15561317
>How many $ do I need to be able to buy into SpaceX directly?

Way more than you have and if you had that kind of money you would be better off throwing some at every penny stock shitcoin space company IPO. It only takes one of two to pan out and you will make WAY more money than buying into SpaceX at its current retarded valuation of life 150 billion or whatever.

unrelated but some people seemed to be interested in the previous thread
X.AI is going to have a twitter spaces after market close today, so in about 10h 40min

separation and ijnection succesful

>Webcam pointed at a screen showing slowly updating jpegs
You do you, ISRO.

>>15561706
These telimetry displays and flash animation mog the shit out of SLS launch and slideshow

why do they need to record the screen instead of streaming the screen directly?

>>15561714

>>15561719
The technology isn't there yet

>>15561717
Because it's India, a country where they "teach" programming by packing a thousand people into a tiny room and having them repeat what the teacher says out loud.

they're so happy

>>15561717
The boomers higher ups are tech illiterates

>>15561730
I hate my fellow countrymen

>>15561717
Good morning sir

Sirs

someone post the blue indian astronaut with the swastika.
seems like I never saved it.

>>15561730
>bheemappa meethappa poojar
>jai MP rao sir
>congratulations onarable s.somnathan sirrrrr
kek

Holy fuck I hate India and it's inhabitants

>>15561768
YWNBAW sir
>>15561717
Cutting corners. Why bother when it does the job

>>15561147
Frogs don't have cocks. They have tranny holes (((cloaca))). Hence, all frog posters are trannies.

I hate modern technology

why can't we go to mars on a 6502 driven rocket

>>15561783
YWNBW

>>15561795
JRHNBR

KGATLW

>>15561783
I would unironically rather be a girlcock tranny than a micropeen street shitter.

bloody bitch bastard mudarchods in this thread, must be jealous jews and japs.

>>15561730
I was looking for my post

https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/07/the-senate-just-lobbed-a-tactical-nuke-at-nasas-mars-sample-return-program/
>The US Senate on Thursday slashed the budget for NASA's ambitious mission to return soil and rock samples from Mars' surface.
>NASA had asked for $949 million to support its Mars Sample Return mission, or MSR, in fiscal year 2024. In its proposed budget for the space agency, released Thursday, the Senate offered just $300 million and threatened to take that amount away.
>Further, the report states that the $300 million allocated to the Mars mission will be rescinded if NASA cannot provide Congress with a guarantee that the mission's overall costs will not exceed $5.3 billion. In that case, most of the $300 million would be reallocated to the Artemis Program to land humans on the Moon.
it's over

>>15561809
we know, more gibs for artemis.
general consensus is that at least the grifters at jpl are being fucked over.

>>15561793
>6502
ok nintendrone

>>15561809
MSR is over budget but at least it's actual science. Senate needs to put a stop to Artemis like they're doing with MSR, cause Artemis is realistically way worse

>>15561813
look the details don't matter
y can't we go to mars on a motorola 68000

I WILL share my new autistic obsession with sfg

>>15561644
landing on the moon is a big deal, always was

>>15561657
it's now later. tell it.

>>15561804
>picrel
mfw when ariane 5 retired and h3 not flying in 23 so your country leapfrogs to numba 3 in the world by forfeit

>>15561809
>>NASA had asked for $949 million to support its Mars Sample Return mission, or MSR, in fiscal year 2024. In its proposed budget for the space agency, released Thursday, the Senate offered just $300 million and threatened to take that amount away.
Yes, I'm sure cutting year or year funding and stretching out the timeline will absolutely save money in the long term.

>>15561809
If you can't pick up some test tubes off Mars and bring them back for 300 mil then you should just fucking die scumbag government contract grifters

>>15561846
its not that easy in picking-up-rocks-from-other planets-ry

https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/07/rocket-report-rocket-labs-next-step-in-reuse-blue-origin-engine-explodes/

Small rockets
> Zhuque-2 rocket makes history.
> Virgin Galactic announces window for next commercial flight.
> Rocket Lab's next launch will take another step toward reuse.
> Astra seeking to raise more money.
> India wants to get in on the small-satellite launch market.

Medium rockets
> SpaceX sets another rocket reuse record
> .Date set for next Japanese launch.
> China's Space Pioneer raises money for reusable rocket.
> China launches Internet test satellites.

Heavy rockets
> Blue Origin engine explodes on test stand.
> Upgrades continue at SpaceX's Starship launch pad.

>>15561846
At this point, JPL has been pretty much hollowed out, most of the boomers who knew what they were doing are gone.

https://investors.virgingalactic.com/news/news-details/2023/Virgin-Galactic-Announces-Flight-Window-for-Second-Commercial-Spaceflight/default.aspx

Next Virgin Galactic flight announced, flight window will open August 10th

> Elon stole the name
http://www.triangspacextoys.info/SpGApapr/ConsPapr/StrkrAds/StrkrClr.html
thunderfoot shall hear of this!

>>15561879
maybe he had those toys as a kis

>>15561880
Quite possible

>>15561879
>thunderfoot shall hear of this!
Unironically do it

>>15561717
Few probable reasons
1. Streaming system would need a new RFP, tender, lowest bidder, anti corruption verification, court case. Usual bureaucracy and red tapism
2. Govt not wanting to wanting to share data in favor of "national security interests"
3. Lazy, cheap option

Pick whatever's your favourite.

>>15561879
Imagine being a boomer /toy/ autist that's trying to collect these to relive his childhood. When sudden some emerald mining fuck comes in and pollutes the Google results.

>>15561861
how can China have a cheap MSR mission?

>>15561846
Do they even have a plan for how this is all gonna work? Or did they just collect a load of samples and hope that they'd figure out how to get them home eventually?

Who would win?

>>15561933
If the competition is gayest spherical body that bæsedboys obsess over too much, then it’s a three-way tie

>>15561937
mindbroken by wellchads

>>15561933
are you stalking me

>starlink launch aborted
SPACEX IS FAILING AT THIS VERY MOMENT

>>15561943
t.

>>15561951
That's a very nice tube.

>>15561954
t.

>>15561933
Wow the death star isn't that big.

>>15561959
so true

>The American Sea Dragon lifts off from Kwajalein Atoll Base in the South Pacific with 500t capacity to the moon and beyond.

Daily reminder we could've had this instead of Constellation, Artemis or Starship.

>>15562014
Starship will be better than SD if all goes well

speaking of wellfags, check out this fruitfly study on how they adapted to micrograv conditions. Includes flies in a tube for artificial gravity, where they didn't end up changing from earth flies.
https://www.cell.com/cell-reports/fulltext/S2211-1247(22)01099-3

https://www.cell.com/cell-reports/fulltext/S2211-1247(22)01099-3
>Spaceflight poses risks to the central nervous system (CNS), and understanding neurological responses is important for future missions. We report CNS changes in Drosophila aboard the International Space Station in response to spaceflight microgravity (SFμg) and artificially simulated Earth gravity (SF1g) via inflight centrifugation as a countermeasure. While inflight behavioral analyses of SFμg exhibit increased activity, postflight analysis displays significant climbing defects, highlighting the sensitivity of behavior to altered gravity. Multi-omics analysis shows alterations in metabolic, oxidative stress and synaptic transmission pathways in both SFμg and SF1g; however, neurological changes immediately postflight, including neuronal loss, glial cell count alterations, oxidative damage, and apoptosis, are seen only in SFμg. Additionally, progressive neuronal loss and a glial phenotype in SF1g and SFμg brains, with pronounced phenotypes in SFμg, are seen upon acclimation to Earth conditions. Overall, our results indicate that artificial gravity partially protects the CNS from the adverse effects of spaceflight.

After looking at this, I kind of feel like the wording is missleading, the adaptations to microg make sense in microg, they don't result in adverse affects until they get 'returned' (is it returned if they've spent multiple generations in space) to earth. As it applies to astronauts, they'd probably be better quality if they were adapted to microg, but we couldn't ever return them to earth. The cylinder is a crutch to keep the population from adapting to the new environment for no reason.

We need to breed multiple generation of mice in space and see wut happens.

few days old but I haven't seen it discussed here yet, nasa starts testing thrusters for gateway

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/glenn/2023/nasa-aerojet-rocketdyne-put-gateway-thruster-system-to-the-test

>The AEPS must undergo qualification testing before being certified to fly on Gateway. The combined NASA-Aerojet team will use two qualification units – models nearly identical to the thrusters that will fly on PPE – during these tests.
>A second qualification unit will arrive at NASA in 2024 to undergo a wear test that mimics the anticipated conditions the AEPS will experience during Gateway’s initial orbit raising and transition to lunar orbit. NASA expects the thrusters to operate for 23,000 hours total during a nearly four-year test campaign inside NASA Glenn’s massive vacuum chambers.
>To ensure Gateway is ready for launch and its transit to the Moon, the PPE’s actual flight thrusters are being built now and will launch to space before the entire multi-year wear test is complete.

>>15562044
>xenon
obsolete and expensive

>>15562014
Reminder

>>15562071
Just looks like poorly rendered water falling off it to me.

>>15562071
What the fuck is this autism that gets posted every other thread?

>>15562076
>gets posted every other thread?
No it doesn't you nignog

>>15561645
Not a lot of diversity in that pic

>>15561602
Probably there will be a ton of them. Also on would be some at different orbits, and potentially with different propellant (like xenon/krypton/argon for ion thrusters). Eventually even just plain water, and bulk wheat, etc. would be stored in depots, to allow bigger ships to be launched into orbit empty (or assembled in orbit) then filled up before their trips.

>>15562088
Diversity is our weakness.

>>15562071
Please enlighten us non-autistic mere mortals to what you see there.

>>15562076
the creators of the show confused a technical drawing symbol on the blueprint with some kind of weird thruster
not sure what they mean as I've only had one course with technical drawing and that was a while ago but the fact it is a techincal drawing marker/symbol instead of part of the rocket should be pretty clear

>>15562123
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/19880069339/downloads/19880069339.pdf

if I would have to guess its for "this side is down" or something as the drawing didn't fit on one A4
but what is shows is that the creators were very lazy and weren't bothered with technical accuracy too much

>>15561181
Maybe we should actually do that. With the base unit being a day. Then 1s = 12μd.

>>15562014
>instead of Constellation, Artemis or Starship.
If you’re claiming that Sea dragon could have been made as the post-shuttle project, then no it couldn’t have, that was an idea of the 60s, not the 2000s, industrial lobbies, NASA’s mindset and environmental interests would be against it

>>15561181
Metric time already is decimal based

>>15562159
I think he wants to claim the sexagesimal base for imperial units when that is older than Anglo outhouses.

>>15561465
Wouldn't one pressure vessel be enough? You'd just need a separating membrane inside.

>>15562123
Where the fuck is the payload?

>https://riograndeguardian.com/nextdecade-announces-mammoth-size-project-for-port-of-brownsville/
>port of brownsville is building a massive LNG (methane) facility for spaex
>it'll be done ~2040
what the fuck

>>15562193
lol, 2040
I mean if boca chica becomes a massive spaceport at some point then that makes sense, 17 years in the future seems just extremely slow to almost be pointless

>>15562193
That doesn’t say dick about spacex, it’s for powerplants.

>>15562200
yeah after reading it, nothing about spacex lmao
its probably just a good location

>>15562193
ESGhound shitting pissing cumming

https://twitter.com/r3a9an_k_/status/1679876950502825986

> something manifold related between OLM legs, looks interesting

>>15562202
unrelated to Musk so I doubt he gives a fuck

>>15562217
meant to reply to >>15562206

wtf it a changayga3

>>15562215
this is a blue board, anon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOAjpmdaiYw

> Landspace achieved a groundbreaking success on July 12, 2023, with the first orbital launch of a methalox rocket worldwide: the Zhuque-2. This new rocket also triples the payload capacity of the largest Chinese commercial rocket to date, and showcases the growing importance that commercial companies are playing in Chinese launch.

beatuiful woman at nsf
https://youtu.be/hukjMVIecdU

>>15562261
>Landspace
Seriously? Who comes up with these names?

>>15562265
Chinamen

https://twitter.com/Ringwatchers/status/1679892831924625408

>>15562263
faggot

>>15562261
>Chinese
>commercial
lol
lmao even

>>15562265
the chinese name is lianjiang or something which translates into blue arrow aerospace, this landspace thing is baffling and many other chinese companies use retarded names like these but then have additional names

https://twitter.com/Free_Space/status/1679575383056826368

>>15562284
A tanker? Huh

>>15562289
lurk more

>>15562291
no

https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1679902235998793749

>>15561858
>explosion during an engine acceptance test is "relatively routine" early in the engine's production run

RocketLab really needs to pick up the pace, one launch so far this year eleven planned.

>>15562319
Yes blue origin lander launches without fuel and additionally is planned to be fully reusable with refueling in nrho.

>>15562044
Are they going to expend that much Xenon when testing or is there a capture mechanism? Is there a way to simulate 23,000 hours so we don't have to pay or wait for four years of tests?

>>15562076
Idk just report and move one.

>>15562168
My reasoning for wanting several layers: protection from micrometeorites (whipple shields need lots of thin layers to work) and I think to make it stronger (like how I-beams are far stronger than an equivalent flat plate). You wouldn’t want one of these things to catastrophically fail. Most micrometeors are really small (like pinhole sized) and with only 123 psi it wouldn’t lose very much propellant. And because the tank is so massive, a small leak wouldn’t noticeably move the thing either. Maybe there’d be some kind of self-sealing goo (like Slime) between layers to handle small leaks.

>>15562351
retard goyflix viewer

>>15561566
>He tried the space suit on, it fit great.
>"I will still scrap it and buy another for the actual mission"

>>15561818
Paramotor stuff looks pretty fun.

I'm ameriafat ( ._.)

In space no one can smell you streetshitting

MSRbros I don't feel so good

>>15562383
filthy bugchaser

>>15562388
Being ironically retarded is still being retarded

>>15561575
Imagine blasting across the Martian roggs on your Vulture or other spacebike listening to this.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD4GbGmvNRc

>>15562397
don't know why that link quoted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD4GbGmvNRc

>>15562383
I hope they can somehow finish this mission below budget

>>15562410
Bruh in what world is that going to happen

>>15561815
MSR and Artemis are both colossal wastes of money

More landers for the moon and mars, great
Meanwhile the decadal survey has an entire section begging NASA not to cut funding for actual exploration. Veritas to Venus? Dead. Uranus/Neptune exploration? Dead.

>>15562436
Artemis at least gets Starship across the finish line and funds depots. Venus missions get retardedly cheap after that since a basic Hohmann with aerocapture is enough, so just strap a kickstage to it and launch on Starship.

>>15562325
Bezosbux strikes again

How do we get Americans excited about modern spaceflight like these guys?

https://twitter.com/geoffdbarrett/status/1679888827844898824?s=46&t=ySaWSLoZU6lwZ7u03-FcBQ

>>15562463
4.5x the population, and the population is VERY nationalistic and likes their achievements. Just look at any random YouTube video about anything science. You'll have hundreds of pajeets in the comments saying 'actually this ancient Indian text shows we invented X' where X is calculus, algebra, email, scientific method, bacteria science, whatever the fuck

>>15562463
Push our own boundaries.

>>15562463
Shove all the nonwhites into wood chippers.

outside of Bebop, and season 1 of Expanse, what space shows are worth my time? I heard For all mankind is good but pozzed. any other animes? From the Earth to the Moon?

>>15562480
this

https://twitter.com/relativityspace/status/1679899646947377152

>>15562484
Planetes

>>15562488
https://twitter.com/relativityspace/status/1679899965383122944

> Our HQ has a unique test yard where we can cryogenically test components before they go into our engines. This helps us reduce risks and speed up the iteration process by testing at the component level first (right in our backyard).

>>15562427
they just need to build a few retrieval helicopters, a ascent vehicle to get the samples to orbit, and a spacecraft to take the samples back to Earth

>>15562490
> The first two test cells are focused on Ox and Fuel pumps. With an additional three test cells for valve development.

>>15562484
Tsuki to Laika to Nosferatu

https://twitter.com/LMSpace/status/1679879862348120065

> Seeing triple!

>The future of @NASA_Orion is looking pretty good! The crew modules for #Artemis II, III and I are in different production phases at @NASAKennedy in preparation for bringing astronauts back to the Moon.

>>15562436
both MSR and Artemis are pretty bad but they do have a silver lining
-MSR is good science but for a huge price
-Artemis is a big waste of money except the bit of money that's going to SpaceX

Also yeah imagine if we took a few billions out of MSR, how many science missions could that fund? Dragonfly is only a little over a billion if I remember correctly

>>15562325
Watch the third provider be Boeing, forced on the USSF in order to increase cadence/lower cost of SLS.

>>15562501
The only good thing about artemis is gateway. Sure hls is cool and sexy, but without a station to tie us to the moon we would use that monolith twice and then wait 50 years to go to the moon again

>>15562489
This
>>15562497
I liked this one too, odd but good.

>>15562436
>More landers for the moon and mars, great
So it's not a waste of money then

>>15562488
>>15562490
I AM PROOOONTING

>>15562463
Indians don't have a culture of critique telling them its bad/uncool to be proud of their collective achievements

>>15562484
watch Star Cops
>Set in the year 2027, a time where Interplanetary travel has become commonplace, it starred David Calder as Nathan Spring, commander of the International Space Police Force—nicknamed the "Star Cops"—who provide law enforcement for the newly developing colonies of the Solar System. The series follows Nathan Spring and the rest of his multinational team as they work to establish the Star Cops and solve whatever crimes come their way. Operating in a relatively accurately realised hard SF, near-future, space environment, many of the cases that the Star Cops investigate arise from opportunities for new crimes presented by the technologically advanced future society the series depicts and from the hostile frontier nature of the environment that the Star Cops live in. There are five permanently occupied space stations orbiting the Earth and there are bases on the Moon and Mars. Approximately 3,000 people are living and working in space.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Cops
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpeldoEzg2U

>>15562507
Explain what gateway doesn't that going directly to the moon can't do

>>15561809
LMAO. What did they expect. If you're trying to turn the Mars Sample Return mission into a $10 billion dollar nonsense, then there will be no sympathy.

It maybe better to just send a Starship and refuel it back to earth.

>>15562583
What

>>15562583
Like gateway vs lander or gateway vs moonbase? vs lander it’s better because congress will be obligated to keep the reusable space station in use once it’s there, they can’t cancel the program.
vs moon base is more of a toss up. you could argue for the benefits of long duration habitation on the lunar surface, but space stations are easier to build and get delivered to situ, so it’s less likely to have schedule slips and budget overruns. Which again makes it harder to stop doing moon missions.

>>15562585
>It maybe better to just send a Starship and refuel it back to earth
delusional. the isru refueling on mars will be a gigantic project.
certainly more expensive than $10B
what you want is an ascent vehicle.
it would be better if it was one that went from mars straight to earth entry instead of another satellite being involved.

>>15562484
LOGH
Crest of the Stars
Space Brothers

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1679946016806834176

>>15562608
SpaceX will already be building their own ISRU.

NASA just needs to pay for the ISRU usage on Mars. Which will likely amount to ~$100-$200M imo. And a Starship class would be another ~$300M or so fully fueled and such. Totaling no more than $500M maybe.

>>15562583
No comms blackout windows or two week long nights. Pairing Gateway with a commsat constellation in LLO will allow colonizing the whole surface of the moon if we can solve power delivery to the night side via beamed power or nukes.

>>15562615
starting in about 2 minutes

>>15562624
But I can hear him shuffling around

>>15562615
>>15562624
>dead air
lmao. Why is Musk always so awkward with his impromptu talks

Fuck it, cancel ISS and just bring gateway back to LEO after canceling Artemis around the fifth mission. SLS can be a dedicated crew-cargo craft for the new station
Start up a new commercial lunar program it will be way fucking cheaper. This way you can dedicate all your grifting to LEO and all your “serious” stuff to Moon and Mars

"mars is less interesting than earth"
OHNOOOOO

>>15562632
It's called autism

>Musk has grown enamored by EARTHERS
It’s over, pack it up boys. The Mars dream is dead.

luigi time

AI should be completely unregulated

luigi, look!

>>15562652
yup. elon's naivety is gonna get us all killed

goddammit

so much for the "set reminder" button lmao shit didnt work

>>15562680
Even the listen live button doesn't work for me. Using some youtube livestream.

Reminder that booster landings are literally more reliable than Twitter

So they're really *NOT* trying to make a second chatgpt

Elon wants to break speed of light
AI is our only hope to figure out how, and hope the standard model has a crack

>>15562694
smart, but this is why it will fail
>>15562695
completely retarded

>>15562700
do you think it's a hard limit?

>>15562694
They're making a TruthAI that will answer the meaning of life, universe and everything

>>15562703
I think understanding nonlocality and geometry will get you the equivalent of faster than light without actually physically travelling faster than a massless force carrier

>>15562695
>Elon doesn't know about the Scharnhorst effect
what a pleb

>>15562711
virtual particles are so fake

>>15562695
the standard model is already full of cracks lol, it's a miracle any of it works at all

we'll figure out some delayed choice quantum eraser type fuckery. I hope.

>>15562707
I hope it will be integrated with Truth Social and Elon+Trump will make up

>>15562718
>xkcd
>the first force is gravity
according to relativity this is false

>>15562718
Delayed choice is a problem created by Copenhagen interpretation of qm. The assumption of collapse/ leads to time travel required to undo the supposed collapse.

It's best understood as superdeteministic system like a many world system, but idk if many world is right but it's the closest and the simplest form of qm.

>"Look," said Ford, "I'll show you." He grabbed a napkin off the table and fumbled with it. "Look," he said again, "imagine this napkin, right, as the temporal Universe, right? And this spoon as a transactional mode in the matter curve." It took him a while to say this last part, and Arthur hated to interrupt him. "That's the spoon I was eating with," he said.

>>15561809
JPL went from sending Voyager 2 to Uranus and Neptune without actual NASA approval to fucking this

>>15561933
thought it was Mimas from the thumbnail

>>15562615
can you start listening from the beggining or does it have to finish first?

>>15562762
you have to wait I think

>>15562764
retarded app

>>15562766
It's a fairly new feature, not an app.

why oh why does elon insist on using spaces? it's an embarrassing disaster every damn time

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/new-nasa-artemis-instruments-to-study-volcanic-terrain-on-the-moon

New CLPS mission just dropped

>>15562772
It's his baby. Ofc he will use it.

>>15562787
Spaces were a thing before he took over.

>>15562772
Eat your own dog food.
They will fix it until it isn't a disaster.

>>15562325
https://www.ssc.spaceforce.mil/Portals/3/Documents/PRESS%20RELEASES/Space%20Systems%20Command%20Releases%20National%20Security%20Space%20Launch%20Phase%203%20Draft%202%20Request%20for%20Proposals.pdf?ver=0xrSGmdDFdcsSnLOiIT1Rw%3d%3d
China is the reason they give for adding a third provider
Imagine being the third ranked provider in lane 2

>>15562798
They're serious about spending the cash to maintain space dominance

But how long is Congress going to play along with this

>>15562803
Another reason why the third provider will be Boeing with SLS.

>The ability to rapidly re-constitute space-based capabilities or re-supply payloads or cargo at precise locations for time-sensitive logistics (in-space or terrestrially) is a critical but presently non-existent capability that contributes to sustained U.S. economic leadership in space, and builds an enduring advantage that may be leveraged during times of crisis or conflict. With the emergence of in-space manufacturing and accelerated growth of both manned and unmanned orbital destinations requiring logistics support, there is a need to deliver/return payloads and cargo accurately, safely and on-demand. Sustaining isolated or remote platforms or teams of people affordably and at scale additionally requires evaluation of emerging technology solutions that potentially satisfy commercial, civil and national security needs.

>The Department of Defense (DoD) seeks novel commercial solutions that enable responsive and precise point-to-point delivery of cargo to, from, and through space. Doing so in a cost effective manner at scale requires solutions that leverage reusable or serviceable technologies to move a wide variety of cargo where it is needed, when it is needed. Awarded companies will prototype autonomous delivery for one or more of three distinct modalities: from Earth to a mission-designed orbit or trajectory in space, orbital return from space to the Earth to a precise point of recovery, and through space from one orbit to another.

https://www.diu.mil/work-with-us/submit-solution/PROJ00502
https://www.airandspaceforces.com/can-cargo-be-delivered-to-from-and-through-space-dod-wants-ideas-soon/

>>15562843
Pull it up higher you slut

>>15562751
>Anon has mistaken me for this dickhead Mimas. It seems logical because Mimas also is spherical and in fact does have a very prominent large crater

>>15562870
Mimas is bigger than the death star :)

>>15562843
disgusting

>>15562870
The third Death Star was covered in rock and disguised as Mimas when the Empire crumbled

https://twitter.com/Telesat/status/1679943780269723649
>This Sunday, the RocketLab Electron Rocket will be taking the LEO 3 demo satellite on a journey into space! The launch window opens at 19:30 ET
balls

Hey, Alderaan!
TRY SUPPORTING THE REBELLION NOW, YOU FUCKING STUPID BASTARD!

>>15562843
we need her onlyfans

>>15562900

>>15562889
Robot holding a tray of BALLS

>>15562904
surprised it took this long for someone to call us sóy after all this death star posting

>>15562695
ahem

>>15562914
i have my limits

I do wonder what was the reaction when the first good resolution pictures of Mimas came out. I don't know where to search for old newspapers and such

>>15562920
Let me reenact the scene for you
>
no one cared. it didnt make news at all.

>>15562878
it could be worse

>>15562935
>it could be worse
holy shit that's way hotter

>>15562915
Based believer

>>15562915
Just 3 more months to go, QIchads

>>15562798
https://spacenews.com/space-force-to-select-three-providers-of-national-security-launch-services/
>The Senate Armed Services Committee in its version of the 2024 National Defense Authorization Act directs the Space Force to add a third provider in Lane 2 of NSSL Phase 3. The House version of the NDAA does not include this provision.

https://www.armed-services.senate.gov/about/membership
Members of said committee. Cantwell is not on it. Any of these known BO or Boing shills?

>>15562935
this >>15562940
she's cute and not disgusting. also the tattoo is literally better

>>15562499
bill gates invented the assembly line and 200 years later we are doing individual assembly again

> can see the rings
> angular size too large for Iapetus
dropped

>>15562992
>It has also the most inclined orbital plane of the regular satellites; only the irregular outer satellites like Phoebe have more inclined orbits. Because of this distant, inclined orbit, Iapetus is the only large moon from which the rings of Saturn would be clearly visible

>>15562843
BLACKBIRDED

>>15562836
oh yeah, space marine orbital drops coming soon!

>>15562988
here's a closer one of the tattoo

>>15562992
>angular size too large for Iapetus
It could be a camera far away and zooming in, that's how they do those giant moon pictures.

>>15562935
>>15563045
Someone once posted a video of (a lookalike of?) her with the same exact hair sucking a nigger dick in this general.

>>15563073
i wish bro

>>15563078
This literally happened. idk if it was her though

>>15563083
the chick is probably lesbian irl

That xai thing was 2 hours of hot air nothing. what a huge waste of time

>>15563045
Aw geez

>>15562915
FTL becomes even less possible in a QI world.

>>15563122
QI is even more based than I thought

https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/07/viasats-new-broadband-satellite-could-be-a-total-loss/
The recent Viasat satellite cost $700M

Will X AI solve the Fermi Paradox? Will /sfg/ apologize then?

>>15563122
Jumpgates become feasible.

>>15563122
And that's a good thing!

ftl is for faggots, trannies and lames

>>15563148
This is cope

>>15563148
Zubrin proved ramscoops don't work and in the process discovered the magnetic sail.

>>15563148
Based

>>15563152
Cringe

>>15563156
Keep coping lol

>>15563158
Tranny

>>15563160
Copey :)

>>15561818
>*flies into controlled airspace without radio communication*
I hate paramotors
I hate paramotors
I hate paramotors

>>15563152
>>15563158
>>15563161
Coping about what you faggot?

>>15563183
Die FAA nigger

>>15561719
why elon doesnt send spacecraft like this? whats the separation orbit and weight? falcon heavy should do it easily?

>>15563217
Indian rocket for indian lander

>>15563219
so let indians make landers for south afican rocket

LVM 3 internal cost for ISRO: $45 millions
Falcon 9 price for a customer: ~$67 millions, more so nowadays since they're in a monopoly situation.
Both rockets do the job!

>>15563136
The paradox in my bank account when I'm done slurping their IPO

>>15563269
>their IPO
not gonna happen

>>15563136
I sure hope so, my life savings depends on it

>>15562543
I'll stick with the original.

>>15562353
Nigger I haven't watched a normie tv show in years. Gay spam about trash is still gay spam.
Report all fag show posters
Report all ksp timewasters

a 1986 Dan DeLong concept, he'd later be cofounder of XCOR

>>15561349
that would mean a complete and utter failure of the starship program as a whole, and would necessitate a total redesign from the ground up. don't think that is going to happen.

>>15561338
full starlink constellation
artemis flights
colonizing mars

>>15562352
I don't mean having a single protective layer. I mean having a single sphere. This is more volume-weight efficient due to the surface-volume relationship.

Ive done the math, its unrefutable, FTLtards drag the average IQ of /sfg/ down by 40 points.

>>15563148
Warp drive? Wormholes? Teleportation? That stuff is lame. Where are my pretty women in white dresses who lights some candles and flips tarot cards while chanting in Welsh?

>>15562843
Made for BIG BLACK RECONNAISSANCE

Before it comes out in the press tomorrow, in the next thread I'll give you guys a little sneak peek at a project I've been working on in cooperation with NASA.

>>15563373
Faggot

>>15563373
Does it involve demonic aliens by any chance

>>15563435
This is your brain on /x/

>>15563373
NASA doesn't make announcements on Saturdays
u lie

>>15562499
Weren't they planning to reuse these things? How many are they planning to build? They already aren't going to use the one from Artemis 1, since it never had life support and they took hardware out of it for building up the next one.

It seems like they plan to build up like 4, fly the early missions, then the expect funding to dry up so they will never need to reuse the things. Oldspace shenanigans never cease to amaze.

>>15563135
It's just GSO, send some space force guy in there and tell him to hit it with a wrench

>>15563332
>Druid circle uses their powers to teleport ships through space

If the Chinese lunar mission is happening within the next 7 years how come we haven’t seen any hardware? No Long March 10, no EVA suits, no new capsule, yeah Artemis was delayed and shot but we have hardware for the next couple Artemis missions going into 2029, you would figure the Chinese would have at least some hardware built

>>15563661
China doesn’t have a lack of hardware. They’ve “technically” already fabricated some LM9 parts, and sent the next gen capsule to space. The problem is that the hardware that gets built suddenly becomes outdated as the designs rapidly change.
For example, the next gen capsule (that had already been built and tested) has now had a complete size change. And we all know how often LM9 designs change

wen hop?

>>15563690
flight window opens august 10th

>>15563661
There's a lot of pictures and video of YF-100K engine testing that end up on twitter. I also remember seeing photos of some test tanks for the first stage, although this was well before they settled on calling it the CZ-10 so they seem to be impossible to find now. Not a lot gets out and not everything that ends up on Chinese social media filters over to us in the west, but they're clearly making progress. You just need to know where to be looking.

>>15563690
Hey just be quiet, ok?

>>15563208
There’s a good possibility I will if paraniggers keep flying into local traffic patterns unannounced like bumbling retards.

>>15563765
>modern pilots can't use mk 1 eyeballs and need bing bing wahoo gadgets to not crash into a 5m cross section object in the entire fucking sky

Yeah this checks out I guess

>>15562615
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tV1KPkuiBI
supercut of xAI spaces, there was a lot of dead air