/sci/ - Science & Math

I fucking hate him for killing Pluto even though it's more of a planet than fucking Mercury, but still better than the le string theory man that destroyed an entire generation of stem students.

>>15515951
He is a good speaker. I don't know much about physics so he is better than me at it.

>>15515957
>chuckles
>looks smug
>says something smug

>>15515951
not fit to shine the shoes of a Bogdanoff

>>15515951
He's a gay faggot LOSER

>>15515951
just another actor defending heliocentric basedence

>>15515951
just another actor defending heliocentric onions.ence

>>15515951
just another actor defending heliocentric s.o.y.e.n.c.e.

>>15516345
im somewhat sure he's pointed out numerous times that you can make a correct and consistent system from any vantage point, for example, an earth-centric system
but he also says that it's generally less useful, and he implies they're "less correct" while still being perfectly correct which is obviously an error

>>15515951
Not as good as Sagan.

>>15515951
Wouldn't be that bad if he wasn't woke as fuck.

>>15516342
heliocentrism is 1800s tier dogma, its absurd that ppl still believe in it and think that they're educated. the current conventional wisdom on the topic for the past century amongst astrophysicists has been that einstein's relativity is the correct theory and we live on earth rather than on the sun, our reference frame and view of the universe is geocentric rather than heliocentric.
the only ppl who still believe in heliocentrism are midwits that began and ended their education on the topic when they learned about galileo in jr high school

>>15516374
just to chime in here: general relativity says that all coordinate systems are “symmetric” meaning that it doesn’t really matter how you choose a reference frame for defining your coordinate system. in fact the main power of the theory comes from this symmetry under coordinate transformations (general covariance). arguing about coordinate systems is kind of low IQ

>>15515954
You're awfully passionate about how the IAU classifies celestial bodies.

>>15516358
I blame Sagan for Atheists having the most historically ignorant takes on Hypatia/the library of Alexandria, Galileo, and Bruno, and never shutting up about it vis a vis the retarded science vs. religion "debate." Smoke theGrass Tyson is still bad in that regard, but not AS bad.

>>15515951
When the spinning ball-Earth is finally exposed worldwide for the 400+ year deception it was, Earth's entire population will suddenly be faced with the reality that every government, every space agency, university, secret society, religious organization, mainstream and alternative media outlet have ALL been duplicitous in propping up a monstrous manipulation to fleece and control the masses. The resulting mass mental exodus away from the control system is exactly what humanity needs. Once the flat Earth truth gets out, these lying politicians, spokesmen, reporters and teachers suddenly change from being heralded voices of authority to being ridiculed, shunned and denounced as they deserve. Once the flat Earth truth gets out, these governments, universities, media outlets and other entangled organizations which have long been hard at work weaving this multi-generational ball-Earth myth, suddenly and completely lose all credibility. Once the truth of our flat Earth gets out, so does the truth of these few elite families/societies who have kept this most important and fundamental reality from us for these hundreds of years! Essentially, once the flat Earth truth gets out, so does every other important truth by proxy, because this "mother-of-all-conspiracies" holds under its umbrella literally ALL of the other conspiracies, and exposes them.

>>15516400
The idea of Pluto as a planet has been hated by the professional community since it was discovered because Pluto was discovered by an uneducated man and the scientist/priest class disliked being publicly shown up like that. They want Clyde Tombaugh to be forgotten, which is why they campaigned so aggressively to have Pluto delisted and recategorized as a lesser object even though it fit all of their definitions of a planet.

>>15515951
Yet another climate change shilll that won't even so much as say the word "nuclear", so fuck him.

How can he pretend to know all, when his thesis was a joke?
Im a postdoc and I feel so uneasy to talk about something that's out of my expertise. This dude isn't even qualified to talk about astrophysics, but keeps talking about every possible topic.

>>15516569
hes also a vaccine expert

>>15516374
correct, heliocentrism is certfied trash classic
>>15516345
wouldn't expect anything less than complete falsehoods from this hollywood actor

>>15515951
He's good at public speaking when he's on his own, his editors do a good job of keeping him from sounding too pedantic. I think he's kinda irritating in groups though.

>>15516972
he turns into a stammering idiot the second he gets a tough question

He was pretty cool when he got sucked off by The
Mask in that one interview.

>>15516972
>editors do a good job of keeping him from sounding too pedantic
editors aren't doing a good job then

>>15515951
>What's /sci/'s opinion on Black Science Man?
>Black
100$ he's like 50% black AT MOST. Tho I think its even less than that.

>>15515951
Arrogant irritating fucker. Ran a planetarium, so a great scientist.

>>15515954
>the le string theory man that destroyed an entire generation of stem students
who are you taking about? And how did he destroy an entire generation of stem students?

>>15515951
I enjoyed hearing him tell a joke about aliens finding no intelligent life on Earth. The image he's been projecting seems quite friendly to me, but I think it would serve him well to be humbled.

I like Michio Kaku
i don't care that he doesnt know a goddamn thing about 99% of the shit people pay him to talk about on TV. his ability to speak bullshit with such confidence is truly inspiring

>>15515951
You call that black?
Very pale compared to real blacks from Africa like Twum, plus he married a white looking jewish woman so his family is even less black than he is.
His name should be changed to Dysgenic Soience Mutt

>>15518167
>His name should be changed to Dysgenic Soience Mutt
that would make his kids DSM II & DSM III

>>15515951
This guy loves to go on and on about the scientific method and how you should question everything, unless you question the narrative, or le "Settled Science". Where was he when real, accredited scientists and doctors were being censored and punished just for saying that the covid vaccine wasn't the second coming of christ? "Question everything" my ass.

>>15516411
silence flat earther, you're just a plant to obfuscate and mock us truthers
it is clear that the world is hollow and that the nazis fled into it at the end of ww2 with their secret treasures

>>15519121
Proofs? Yeah zero, meanwhile there are hundreds of proofs for a flat earth. Error curvature not found.exe

>>15519184
obvious false flag operation by the cia/nsa
your "proof" is all manufactured to obfuscate the truth even more to make the rest of us look retarded
meanwhile the hollow earth has more historical proofs for its existence, and is backed up by scientific fact

>>15515951
>What's /sci/'s opinion on Black Science Man?
Not science or math. Drink hydrazine immediately

>>15519567
why does black soience man trigger you so much? are you a racist?

>>15519504
Hollow earth has zero proof except cartoon drawings. Meanwhile there are tens of millions of flat earth pictures and you can test it out yourself anytime you look out.

>>15517878
Kaku

>>15519076
right, he is just a propagandist who poses as a scientist for clout, theres a lot more out there like him. why on earth anyone would trust his judgement on medical topic is beyond reason, he failed out of astronomy school, so how is he supposed to know anything about other sciences when he can't even perform in his chosen field?

>>15515951
He's not as smart as midwits think he is, but I do like him

>>15515951
He fills an important role, and he's entertaining for 1-2 hours, but past that he's actually really obnoxious to listen to. I subscribed to his podcast for a while. He's SUPER repetitive, is convinced his bad jokes are gold, seems to lack a kind of practical perspective about life, changes his point of view depending on the social scale of the topic he's discussing, and he's legit one of the most lowkey arrogant people I've ever heard speak.

Look at his publication history, that's all you need to know to judge him

>>15515951
Poor man's Carl Sagan. Really illustrates the drop of quality of science education / popularization.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8khZZNGjafc

>>15520652
https://neildegrassetyson.com/cv/#papers


The Faint-End Slopes of Galaxy Luminosity Functions in the COSMOS Field
C. T. Liu et al., 2008, Astrophysical Journal Letters, v.672, p.198

COSMOS: Hubble Space Telescope Observations
N. Scoville et al., 2007, Astrophysical Journal Supplement, v.172, p.38

The Cosmic Evolution Survey (COSMOS): Overview
N. Scoville et al., 2007, Astrophysical Journal Supplement, v.172, p.1

Optical light curves of the Type IA supernovae SN 1990N and 1991T
P. Lira et al., 1998, Astronomical Journal, v.115, p.234
(See also Erratum: 1998, Astronomical Journal, v.116, p.1006)

BVRI Light Curves For 29 Type Ia Supernovae
M. Hamuy et al., 1996, Astronomical Journal, v.112, p.2408

The Type Ia Supernova 1989B in NGC3627 (M66)
L. A. Wells et al., 1994, Astronomical Journal, v.108, p.2233

The Expanding Photosphere Method Applied to SN1992am at cz = 14600 km/s
B. P. Schmidt et al., 1994, Astronomical Journal, v.107, p.1444

On the Possibility of a Major Impact on Uranus in the Past Century
Neil D. Tyson et al, 1993, Astronomy & Astrophysics (Research Notes), v.275, p.630

An Exposure Guide for Taking Twilight Flatfields with Large Format CCDs
Neil D. Tyson & Roy R. Gal, 1993, Astronomical Journal, v.105, p.1206

Radial Velocity Distribution and Line Strengths of 33 Carbon Stars in the Galactic Bulge
Neil D. Tyson & R. Michael Rich, 1991, Astrophysical Journal, v.367, p.547

On the possibility of Gas-Rich Dwarf Galaxies in the Lyman-alpha Forest
Neil D. Tyson, 1988, Astrophysical Journal (Letters), v.329, p.L57

Bursting Dwarf Galaxies: Implications for Luminosity Function, Space Density, and Cosmological Mass Density
Neil D. Tyson & John M. Scalo, 1988, Astrophysical Journal, v.329, p.618

uvby Photometry of Blue Stragglers in NGC 7789
Bruce A. Twarog & Neil D. Tyson, 1985, Astronomical Journal, v.90, p.1247

>>15515951
I saw Neil Degrasse Tyson at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything. He said, “Oh, like you’re going now?” I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying. The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter. When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

>>15515951
I buy the black part, but I doubt the assertion that he is "science" or "man"

Thoughts on Asian Science Man?

>>15522516
>quantum computing will make string theory testable!
>string theory will produce BIG RESULTS just you wait
>2 more decades to produce results!

>>15520581

>>15515951
I just want my bike back

>>15522516
his sperging about RTGs proves he's an idiot

>>15521718
black soience potato

>>15515951
*scoience

Why does he always have to have stupid comedians sidekicks on his show Startalk? Isn't he already dumb down enough for the masses?

>>15522521
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm9tUVI6Ehk
quantum mechanics meme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8yVJDO9HJ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZngxijknKs

>>15524736

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raTOh2ZMDhQ

>>15515951
hes not really black, hes so pale that he has got to be at least half white and hes not really a scientist, he got kicked out of the profession due to lack of ability. so of course that calls into question if he is truly a man or not.

>>15526199
just say you hate black people anon that would be honest

>>15515951
Most of the things he says are just things we already know but worded with better vocabulary. Nothing new. He probably couldn't figure out how to turn ice VII and lab grown diamond bonding to conduct thermal energy and store it for incredibly long periods of time.

>>15516401
People say similar things about Tyson's take of Al-Ghazali, (see: https://historyforatheists.com/2023/03/neil-degrasse-tyson-and-al-ghazali/)), but that page doesn't offer an alternative and Tyson's take seems like an oversimplification of the mainstream view a few decades ago.

>>15526491
NDT isn't black. Twum is black, she is from Africa. HDT is a dysgenic mutt, like all American """""blacks""""""".

>>15520978
>On the Possibility of a Major Impact on Uranus in the Past Century
ridiculously dumb article

>>15528067
The peer reviewers must've been frightened to death of being accused of racism

>>15515951
He has a nice voice. But the fact that he speaks fast is very beta-ish

100% a niggerjewfaggot grifter makes you realize every word he's coopted isn't real in the first place and cosmologists are all schizo grifters off of people's desire to know the sky

>>15524654
to make himself seem smarter

>>15515951
He's a dumbass nigger

>>15515951
https://youtu.be/UOLLMkAHHQI?t=2477

They are all phonies

>>15528067
Uranus jokes are reddit-tier, holy shit. Everytime there's Uranus related content, the "I hecking love science!" crowd always comes like cockroaches and keeps muttering the same lame "jokes". Fucking grow up already. Can't believe 1/9 of solar system planet discussions get ruined because of fucking manchildren.

>>15515951
He's fine
Personally, I'm not a big fan of pop science anymore, but I do think it's fairly important to keep people's interest up

>>15529292
>They are all phonies
But not the good pastor. He's legit!

>>15529377
>but I do think it's fairly important to keep people's interest up
why? astrocrap isn't important

>>15529963
this. astrofaggotry is both the most expensive and most useless science, it should be done away with outside of the tiny tiny fraction of a percentage of it that is genuinely useful.

>>15531057
>he doesn't want to meet the ayys

>>15529427
https://youtu.be/KcqFDUJsBE0

>>15531232
good video

>>15531057
>the tiny tiny fraction of a percentage of it that is genuinely useful.
making calendars and predicting the time of sunrise and sunset is already figured out pretty well, same goes for tides.

>>15531232
N

>>15532180
i tried to think up any other worthwhile uses for astronomy and all i could think up was solar flares possibly affecting weather and electronic communications

>>15515951
Not quite enough autism in this thread.

>>15533184
https://youtu.be/KcqFDUJsBE0

>>15515951
i appreciate him as a scientist, but i don't appreciate him being a cringelord in general

>>15533250
he isn't a scientist, he failed out of astronomy school

>>15518167
As a man of science, you should know that we are all pink on the inside.

>>15528795
the n word is racist

>>15515951
the current model describes it as if we are in 1 closed time fractal while in reality its billions trillions.

>>15534226
every time, a dimension fall in on it self it splits the core, creating an new direction. the sun an the earth can it self be time fractals.

u see nothing, with out knowing where the next big time fractal runs in an loop you see nothing.

their is the possibility that already with in our solar system more as 1 time line exists.

>>15534237
the longest wave come from the edge of the fractal the shorts from the center, an important beacon is complexity, increasing complexity means you get dragged into the past, into deep time. so if you have an totally closed loop, the measurement of long waves and its direction vs short waves and its direction, show you only your local fractal. but the universe is of infinite age.

>>15534242
if you happened to live in a very stable time fractal you might cant measure long waves cause the simply bypass the entire fractal. like also if you have in the direction of the true core are more stable more closed loop it might absorb all ultra high waves. this is why for a real measurement of your location wave length is much more important as optical devices.

>>15534242
>

>>15533271
this

>type ""black basedence man" into google
>all the results are about NDT

>>15533271
>he was accepted into the astronomy graduate program at Columbia University, where he earned an MPhil degree in astrophysics in 1989, and a PhD degree in astrophysics in 1991

>>15515951
He is and will always be a microcosom of what's bad about popsci. As such /sci/'s opinion of him hasn't change all that much over the past decade save for tourists that come here.

>>15516413
>Pluto was discovered by an uneducated man and the scientist/priest class disliked being publicly shown up like that. They want Clyde Tombaugh to be forgotten
Take your meds. Michael Faraday had no formal education, and yet he was one of the most brilliant experimental physicists ever. Not only that but most people don't even care about astronomers in general, its not like William Herschel or Le Verrier are popular figures

>>15533271
>astronomy school

>>15536632
>wanted to be Carl Sagan 2.0
>has barely contributed anything to his own field
>all he has currently is a shitty podcast nobody listens to
>will only be remembered for his voice
Lmao what happened? Did he just never get any opportunities? Does nobody want to work with him? Or is he just legitimately not know anything about astronomy or astrophysics?

>>15536687
He became the director of the Hayden Planetarium shortly after getting his PhD and started writing popsci articles in the mid 90s. I don't think he's cluseless as fro the looks of it he did get his credentials legitimately, but where as Carl Sagan actually had a rather productive scientific career before making Cosmos, NDT just became a communicator once he was through with gradschool.

https://youtu.be/KcqFDUJsBE0

>>15536904
why do you keep spamming this flat earth conspiracy retard in this thread?

>>15536756
>NDT just became a communicator once he was through with gradschool
because he couldn't do research, because the degrees he got were fake, because negros are held to lower academic standards than everyone else, because the jews and white liberals who run universities presume that negros are a lesser race of human.
he might've graduated being able to do research if he had been held to the same standards that white males are

>>15515951
Reddit tier midwit.

mirror obsessed pervert, a lot of astronomers are like this

>>15538560

>>15520581
>he is just a propagandist who poses as a scientist for clout
bill nye: negro edition

>>15529359
>Can't believe 1/9 of solar system planet discussions get ruined because of fucking manchildren.
>planets are all equally likely to be discussed
Anon you're sounding a lot like black science man rn

>>15540642
when are they going to invent a beaner celebrity astronomer to influence the illegal immigrants?

>>15541994
Heres a jewish feminist one, soon NASA will have a fake astronomer to use to propagate propaganda to every different identity group

>>15515951
I understand that he is trying to reach a broad audience and sometimes crosses the line between scientific interpretation and fictional entertainment.
Many of the topics he covers are still works in progress, he can't be more wrong than the others who are also wrong, its nice to hear about how green the grass is on that side of the fence all the same.

>>15541994
>>15543108
They need a new cripple one too

>>15515951
Flagstaff resident here (i.e. home to Lowell Observatory). We're liberal as fuck but if he came to town he'd be the first black man lynched for reasons unrelated to his skin color.

>>15515954
>for killing Pluto
I asked a docent at Lowell Observatory why in an entire field of planetoids, Clyde Tombaugh only noticed Pluto and the answer was "We were only looking for Planet X, to explain irregularities in Neptune's orbit"
The observatory was jury-rigged from homebrew parts and the films they got back were only being viewed with the naked eye, Tombaugh did not have equipment that would have told him outright how many other rocks were swirling around in the vicinity. Every body in the solar system was either detected in the night sky or inferred through orbit irregularities.

>>15516374
>heliocentrism is 1800s tier dogma
16th
If you want to tell Copernicus he's a retard have at it

>>15515951
Knows what he's talking about, but he's an arrogant prick and needs a script to be given to him or he'll piss and shit himself.

>>15516413
>because Pluto was discovered by an uneducated man
This is the same community that willingly named Hale-Bopp after two amateur astronomers who discovered it from their fucking back yards with telescopes, and many other celestial bodies are named after their discoverers without incident.
Lowell's widow chose the name for Planet X less out of mythology and more because its first 2 letters are Percival Lowell's initials, and that probably pissed off a few people. But Lowell did not pick idiots for his crew or a light polluted site, and that's WHY Tombaugh found what universities couldn't.

>>15516569
>This dude isn't even qualified to talk about astrophysics, but keeps talking about every possible topic.
He's intimidated by Sagan's ghost, but without the breadth of education Sagan had (or, more importantly, Ann Druyan pumping all the words that came out of Carl's mouth). Seriously, reddit once asked him for a reading list and what he gave them was clearly the undergrad bookshelf in his computer room without any real thought to it.

>>15526199
>he got kicked out of the profession due to lack of ability
What, they revoked his science license

>>15544093
He got a sºyence license instead, its like psychiatry vs psychology

>>15544072
>This is the same community that willingly named Hale-Bopp after two amateur astronomers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Hale_(astronomer)
>Alan Hale (born 1958)[1] is an American professional astronomer

>>15545489
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Hale_(astronomer)
someone who hate him must've selected that pic to be his wiki bio portrait
>Alan Hale (born 1958)[1] is a fat, bald, four-eyed American professional astronomer and ugly nerd

>>15534219
>the n word is racist
How could that be? Racist doesn't start with an N.

>>15546210
>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Hale_(astronomer)

image this is the picture for your wikipedia bio

>>15547326
why is he so greasy looking?

>>15515987

>>15544065
Is anyone really that disgusted with him outside the rightoid anti-reddit demographic?

i.

e.

You hate normies who "fucking love science" so you're just anti anything in proximity to that.

>>15549363
>projection

>>15550465
Did he forget the amogus?

>>15550465
i didn't say anything about race

>>15549363
Well, he's literally a confirmed product of affirmative action, a rapist, and does an objectively shit job of science communication. He's almost as bad as Michio Kaku and veritasium.

>>15550914
Sir, this is a 4chan.

>>15526491
kys and fuck black people

>>15550920
>Black Science Man is a rapist
>ALMOST as bad as Michio Kaku and Veritasium
Michio Kaku and Veritasium are super rapists?!

>>15515951
I used to think he was a meme but he slipped into my YouTube shorts recommendations and I think he’s actually quite a good science popularizer

>>15551155
kaku isn't a rapist, but he's guilty of being raped at summer camp and admitting to liking it and this offends morons

>>15548545
probably from fucking dogs

>>15549363
/sci/ never liked him because he's popsci, there contrarians and tourists who hate him for different reasons

>>15552355
But he's not a white woman

>>15520978
Compare this publication list to pseuds like Sam Harris
Neil is pretty legit

>>15552385
>pop sci
uhh dude this board is constantly debating the canals on mars, you're all pop sci enthusiasts

>>15553375
>pop sci enthusiasts
that's why half of /sci/ is retarded

>>15553375
we had 9001 submarine threads just a week ago, /sci/ is dominated by redditier popsois who worshing BSM like a god

>>15515951
He’s an asshole that loves hearing himself speak

>>15550465
>>15550531
Amogus on top left.

>>15554638
I think he loves kissing himself in the mirror (but only on the lips) even more.