/sci/ - Science & Math

Joystick drift.

>>15513616
implosion = instant death
or it was a psyop so they can go to atlantis and don't have to interact with normanfolk ever again

>>15513616
Underwater currents
Bermuda Triangle
I prefer abduction by aliens.

>>15513624
they are the aliens but they got tired of their human skin suits

>>15513616
Electronics failure and they were probably stupid enough to have no way to change buoyancy without power

>>15513630
we need to go back

>>15513629
Nice plot twist.

>>15513616
The controls were running GNU/troonix on an Intel management engine CPU. When the ME's cell router went out of the range of the glowops international network it lost connection and bricked itself to ensure DRM safety. Many such cases

Hull failure is my guess - this thing has been down there like two dozen times at least. 4000 meters is no joke (no military submarines can go anywhere near that depth) and I think this might have been the most heavily exploited vehicle of its kind. They also had some sort of cope real time hull integrity monitoring software running so it looks like they were at least thinking about this possibility

Comms ceased about two hours in so thats about the time it would take to get all the way down there. The vehicle also has an automatic ballast release system to bring it back to surface in case of power loss. There are pretty much two possibilities - the hull failed and they got squashed like a can or they got snagged on something down there but the first is much more likely.

>>15513630
They explicitly stated they did have a way - the CEO (hes down there) said that everything can fail but as long as the hull holds and the ballast system works its gonna be fine. So they were prepared for power failure.

>>15513616
>most plausible
There was a flaw in their carbon fiber pressure hole. They imploded.

>>15513620
That should not have prevented them from resurfacing.

>>15513630
>>15513679
The way it SHOULD have worked is that the ballast is held in place with electromagnets. If the sub loses power, the electromagnets release the ballast. Fail safe.

I don't know if they actually did it this way, but they certainly should have.

>>15513673
Navies do have some submersibles that can go this deep, but to your point they're not the sort of submarines that have torpedoes and stuff.

Alvin is owned by the US Navy.

>>15513685
They had a gravity ballast that would release if they tilted the sub a certain way, airbag, roll weights and finally links that would dissolve after 16hrs in seawater to release ballast

The carbon tube was kind of a novel design and it must have failed due to repeated stress - the sub has made the trip before

this fatty had pretty good analysis about what were major red flags about the safety of the vessel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dka29FSZac

>>15513700
Yes, the carbon fiber hull failing seems like the most likely cause. It's very difficult to make and verify perfect homogeneous carbon fiber parts, I bet the repeated stresses interacted with a latent defect and eventually caused sudden catastrophic collapse.

>>15513702
>sub brief
Be careful, he's often quick to jump the gun and leap to conclusions that aren't necessarily supported. I haven't watched that video yet so maybe he's more careful here. Just something I've noticed about him before.

>>15513616
>https://newrepublic.com/post/173802/missing-titanic-sub-faced-lawsuit-depths-safely-travel-oceangate

>>15513705
he says at the end of the video "i'm sorry, but your loved ones are dead", so you may have a point (he's probably right, but there's no way to be certain, so it's not something he should say... yet)

>>15513703
How often is it inspected? You think every descent trip, the crew would do an inspection like a Pilot does a wing walk or walk around before flight.

>>15513729
There are inspections, and then there are inspections. There's a world of difference between eyeballing the hull for cracks, and carefully xraying every inch of it.

>>15513702
>that music at the end
i cri everi tiem
>fattie fat fat fat
the part where they wrapping some fucking sticky tape around a dome and using GLUE to attach the ends is priceless.
i won't go in that thing unless it's a solid 100 inches ball of titanium

>>15513731
yes. there is also a huge difference between inspecting every microinch of it and doing that exact same thing with someone who finished high school and gets paid more than peanuts for the job, as some airlines have yet to figure out

>>15513750
Yes, and it seems like one of the reasons this guy hired young people is because they were more willing to go along with his ideas ("they're more inspirational" aka "they agree with me more readily")

>>15513720
the sudden change in tone and sad background music were hilarious

>>15513720
Lol. They are dead

>>15513703
I saw somewhere that a hull failure would likely be able to be detected due to huge amount of energy, anyone know if that’s true?

>>15513616
Alamos

>>15513766
Sound waves in the water have a way of bouncing off thermal layers in the water. It's not impossible that the mothership's sonar missed it. Or maybe the sonar did pick it up but the humans missed it, or aren't willing to give up all hope until they find bodies.

I don't give a shit . It was billionaires. Nepo babies and trust fund kids should be illegal just like inheritance.

So tired about hearing about the controller.

Seriously though why wouldn't they simply have a small cable running to the sub at all times though?

>>15513774
They trusted the soience.

>>15513641
meds

>>15513780
Experts designed my nigger-rigged submarine. You trust the Experts, don't you? You're not one of those aggressive anti-science people are you?

>>15513784
I've heard that being anti-science can be deadly.

>>15513616
It was made out of
>carbon fiber

>>15513788
This is going to prove a turning point in the public's perception of carbon fiber. it will soon be looked at like hydrogen in airships, every know-it-all normalfag will be telling everybody they know that their new carbon fiber bicycle frame is going to implode just like that submarine. No longer will we see conspicuous carbon fiber styling on consumer products, nobody will want it.

>>15513621
who is John Galt?

>>15513792
>turning point in the public's perception of carbon fiber
Not really. We didn't stop using steel or any other common material just because it failed outside of its known tolerances when used inappropriately.

>>15513800
It won't be cool anymore, so frivolous and conspicuous use of carbon fiber for style purposes will go away.

>>15513779
a small, 2.4 mile cable

>>15513616
incompetence.

>>15513616
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GDthiBGMz8

>>15513616
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co31KsQDuFA

>>15513807
Weren't they doing a cable for the initial dives to find the titanic for power and data?

>>15513792
cyclists who spend thousands on their carbon fiber components already know they have shit durability. they still want to be a few pounds lighter.

>>15513820
miles long tethers have been used before. not sure about the titanic specifically, but the more you hear the CEO talking the more you realize he'd never want something like that anyway.

>>15513836
Yeah he was some sort of hippy guy that didn't want anything that would disrupt his vibes (refused to have voice communication). Tethered remote controlled craft have been used down to the titanic, you can have tethers that are several miles long.

>>15513616

Those guys are the deadest anybody ever has been

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkhBPF4yfkI

Honestly pretty relieved. I thought it was some sort of insane claustrophobic nightmare with 5 people slowly, consciously dying in a metal can in the deep ocean, but apparently they probably died instantly if they didn't just automatically resurface?

>>15513820
>>15513836
>>15513850
I think you need a big ass boat to use a cable that long, if the CEO could afford that the submarine would actually be good

>>15513616
ghosts

>>15513788
>>15513792
>>15513800
carbon fiber is fine if you are not a fucking retard like those morons who made the sub.

it's a very light material that beats still when you need very low weight at reasonable strengths.

for a submarine those morons should have used steel but what do you expect when they literally used a $400 PC and a knock-off sony controller lol.

>>15513788
>>15513792
>>15513800
carbon fiber is fine if you are not a fucking retard like those morons who made the sub.
it's a very light material that beats steel ..when you need very low weight at reasonable strengths but nothing spectacular.
for a submarine: those morons should have used steel but what do you expect when they literally used a $400 PC and a knock-off sony controller lol.

>>15513974
was the controller actually wireless??

https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1671331003300732930
Regular banging noises were heard by sonobuoys on monday.
Control loss is more likely, unless the quality of the sub is so bad they weakened the hull by banging on it, but an implosion is extremely loud and would have been heard too.

>>15513974
Carbon fiber is a bunch of layers wrapped on top of each other. The pressure changes will cause repeated expansions/deflation on all the little imperfections. It's a snowball effect until it collapses

>>15513982
yeah

>>15513974
>carbon fiber
that shit's implosive m8

>>15513974
>$400 PC and a knock-off sony controller lol.
There's nothing wrong with either of these though. A 400$ computer is more powerful than the ones we sent to the moon etc. Sony controller is cringe looking but if it works it works I guess.

hit job
just like what happened to original titanic

rich and influential who were obstacles to "certain group"

>>15514003
>be carbon fiber
>implode
The memes just write themselves. When will carbonfags learn?

>>15514009
>if it works it works I guess
I guess it didn't, I guess.

>>15514015
The controller and computer worked fine, the stupid thing was expecting carbon fiber to hold up under such high pressures

>>15514012
never

>>15513993
I know. It's a great material for my surveying equipment pole (because its extremely light for its strength), but if you build a sub that shit is brittle.

>>15514003
>>15514012
it's just extremely brittle for the purpose. you don't use it when something will have the weight of a car per square inch, its main usage is when you need something extremely light at a reasonable strength (but nothing spectacular in terms of strength).

>>15514009
>>15514015
>>15514017
electronics quality is rarely about the main chips nowadays. $400 PCs may be "great" for your office or gaymes but they also have 5,000 extra components like little capacitors that can explode at any moment.

e.g. your $200 GPU may have $10 cheaper sub-components for them to save (multiply that by hundreds of thousands) but that little "detail" is what makes a card survive for months compared to YEARS.

>>15514009
>A 400$ computer is more powerful than the ones we sent to the moon
Cool now let's compare durability
>Sony controller is cringe looking but if it works it works
I've worn out buttons on gaming controllers and I don't even use them to pilot submarines to the darkest depths of the ocean.

>>15513879
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU9kt3BYnxQ

repeated dive-surface cycles weakened the vessel and the explosive paki curry shart finished it off

civil engineer here. we build common houses with 2X redundancy to a common expected earthquake.

those morons not having redundancy for diving 4km deep is that most stupid thing I heard this month.

squid attack

The only issue I see with the controller is its wireless. When did they change the batteries last, would suck ass if that was the only issue.

>>15513702
That fat retard is a complete joke and will present things he knows are fantastical lies as the truth as evidenced by everything he's said about the thresher. You'll see actual submariners shitting all over him on /k/ sometimes and even as a relatively uninformed retard who worked on sub parts at a defense contractor I know enough to not trust anything emitted from his flabby jowls.

>>15514091
>/k/
nazis know nothing of submarine tech

>>15513986
They’re alive lmfao

>>15513616
Orcas.

>>15513685
>>15513700
>but muh electric systems and the thingy that dissolves
Have you even considered that a creature might exist down there that just ate the whole pod? It didn't even chew it; they're still alive.

>>15513700
My cousin received an order from their company for galvanic timed releases. He had a conversation with either an intern or a junior employee, expressing his desire for "better" ones, meaning ones that last longer. So if these "better" releases were used for self-dissolving bonds on Titan, they should resurface within the next 32 hours.

>>15513682
>That should not have prevented them from resurfacing.

If they were next to the Titanic, joystick drift would've caused the submarine to crash into the ship and damage the submarine's hull. If the crash was hard enough, they would be inside the Titanic, making surfacing difficult or impossible, especially with the cameras damaged.

>>15513749
Glue bonds are pretty great, but you have to QC them to hell and back. I don't know if I would trust them for pressure seals.

The bigger issue to me looks like it's all Unidirectional fibers around the circumference. That's great for hoop stresses, but it's a rookie mistake to not put crack arrestors and +/- 45's for the axial loads.

>>15513620
kek

>>15513986
Holy shit they're gonna asphyxiate aren't they? Had hoped it was at least quick

>>15514066
THIS

>>15514276
Giant squid are pretty much a nothingburger to any serious sub but this tiny jury rigged "sub" might not be able to shrug one off so easily. If a squid latched onto my sub I would want some heavy duty steel or titanium protecting me instead of some carbon fiber that the squid might be able to bite through.

>>15514292
What you need to do is reroute engine power to the hull.

>>15514177
They don't have 30 hours

A Tic Tac multipurpose exploration-combat drone hit it with a meson beam.

They warned us not to explore the depths.

unfortunately james cameron wasn't aboard

>>15513630
apparently they have seven redundant systems to get them to the surface if power fails.
and they probably would have been spotted by now if they were floating on the surface.
so complete hull failure is the most likely event.

>>15513807
He's a billionaire

>>15513616
>Giant squid
Why is this meme being forced? Might as well speculate about Moby Dick, Leviathan and Poseidon.
>that's mythology retard giant squids really exist!
Exactly. Just like females exist that want to fuck you but you have to look for them at the bottom of the ocean.

>>15514066
Imagine if they actually find them in the eleventh hour and get them back to the surface in the knick of time, then fight when they're cracking the hull open and stepping out into the daylight they get marked by Angry Orcas

>>15514433
The pakistani guy and his son teamed up to kill everyone else so they can get more oxygen for themselves
Then the pakistani dad killed himself so the kid has 96*5 = 480 hours of oxygen remaining
Therefore glowies should keep searching for another 490 hours
clean it up glowies

who cares if some wef cunt dies?

>>15514058
>common houses with 2x redundancy
So you build two houses?

I'd wish to die instantly. My worst fear is the abyss of the ocean. Being entangled in the wreck of the fucking Titanic while you slowly asphyxiate is nightmare fuel.
But more to the point: Pakis and trust fund kids. I don't really care whether they live.

>>15513616
my question is how can a plane detect sounds made underwater? That's crazy!!!

https://www.insider.com/plane-searching-for-missing-titanic-sub-detects-noises-underwater-uscg-2023-6

>>15513616
the basic gestalt is that the entire titanic sinking was a hoax made by the jew glownigger bankers and their families to make a ton of cash from the insurance and the movies around the faked event.
>Titanic was insured by the same company that insured the Hindenburg AND WTC on 9/11 (also MH17, MH370)
>as with the WTC/HB they paid out without investigation
>the exact! coordinates to the Titanic wreck are NOT public (you would need to ask James Cameron)
>Jew media had the story already prepared and pushed it way too early
>the water in April is 15 degrees celsius in that region (member icy lips DiCaprio? that was bullshit)
>Icebergs were NEVER spotted again in that region where she allegedly sunk
>wreck footage was filmed in a studio that explains why there are NO fishes seen anywhere
>the wreck was literally found by a monkey (((they))) are fucking with us)
>now they say they found a bacterium on the titanic that eats the steel away so the wreck will vanish in 10 years
>this bacterium was only found to eat on the titanic wreck (sure Moshe)
>according to the story Guggenheim a Billionaire jew refused to enter an empty Lifeboat (46 places were free) and instead sunk with the ship and let his wife escape with the money, hello? nigger are you awake?
>(((Jacob))) Astor also rich billionaire gigajew industrialist allegedly sinks with the ship, his life insurance is paid out (he only faked it same as Guggenkike)
>Titanic ship was moved to Germany where it was rebuild, mothballed and then sold to the US after WW1 and it became the USS Imperator

tl;dr: another fake and gay globohomo psyop, possibly comms being passed around or part of a larger globohomo narrative

>>15514557

Dropped SONAR buoys. Signals and relayed to the bird.

>>15514563
Sonobuoys are pretty crazy.
https://youtu.be/eidMDdMK38s

>>15514539
no you stupid fuck. let's say you expect an earthquake within its design life that will cause damage A. well you don't build for damage A but for damage A X 2 (very roughly speaking) because if the worse you expect on average A then the whole town would be demolished on a freak earthquake lol..

>>15514560

Shut up faggot buying into retarded tall tales doesn't make you smart or special, just gullible like everyone already knew you were

>>15514578
That's safety margin, redundancy is system duplication, pal.

>>15514581
Golem. The post.

>>15514585
mathematically it's various safety factors but I wasn't writing to a conference of actual engineering.

but conceptually if you want to increase safety in such a contraption you'll need redundancy.
e.g. for a building you may make the core more thicc but this may need 3 computers etc.

>>15514585
mathematically it's various safety factors but I wasn't writing to a conference of actual engineers.

but conceptually if you want to increase safety in such a contraption you'll need redundancy.
e.g. for a building you may make the core more thicc but this may need 3 computers etc.

>>15514594
I know what you meant, was just pulling your leg a bit
>t. EE

>>15514560
>USS Imperator ceded to White Star Lines as war reparations
Bro no way. Now I gotta go down the rabbit hole

>>15514015
i guess implosion was caused by the controller then

>>15514032
>I've worn out buttons on gaming controllers and I don't even use them to pilot submarines to the darkest depths of the ocean.
and how many hours do you use them vs how many hours these subs see action retard. Wait until you learn how expensive super-duper secret military hardware is piloted with xbox controllers and I am not only talking about drones. this controller hysteria is a complete nothingburger, perpetuated by armchair slobs who recognize something they use. The carbon fiber hull is sus as fuck

>>15514093
/k/ is the most down to earth hardware focused boards on the channels. Leftypol faggots like you stick you like a sore thumb with how inexperienced and cuddled bunker dwellers you are to the realities of machines and war

>>15513616
no way to tell honestly.

could be billionaires faking their deaths

>>15515318
or NWO killing off billionaires who act like retards

>>15513616
Failure of a bulkhead or something at two miles below the surface... Some sort of hull failure, and it was crushed. Safety systems likely account for everything except for the catastrophic failure due to pressure. Look at all submarine accidents/fatalities. Much more robust systems have suffered worse.

>>15514115
based whale taking the submarinepill

>>15513616
You think they panicked in their last moments or just calmly accepted it's over? I'd like to think it's the latter but something on /pol/ that stuck with me.
>We all enter this world kicking and screaming and we all leave the same way.

If Navy P-3's heard banging sounds then there was no implosion. God have mercy on their souls this is a bad way to go.

>>15515374
there was probably a fire with all that fiasco of $400 PCs and knock-off ps3 controllers, and suffocated within ~10 minutes.

who gives a shit if you suffer for 10 minutes or 10 seconds (you might suffer from a constipation too).

>>15513616
Power went out. They start drifting two miles deep with the ocean current. find way to release Ballast. Drifting two meters below surface 300 miles away.

>>15513641
Watching the video of the sub it appeared to be both mac and windows.

>>15514096
were, 2 days ago, probably running out of oxygen at this point

>>15513986
>>15514096
>They’re alive
>>15515425
they're shit. some random guy heard one random noise that could be from anything and "journalists" kept copying it.

that shitbox probably got a fire from the $400 knock-off PCs in it or imploded because of the criminally stupid usage of carbon fiber.

Navy heard "rhythmic banging every thirty minutes" which is enough of a shot for them to fly in a deep-water drone sub, but there's no guarantee that banging is the sub. If the sub is still intact it's likely trapped under something which is preventing it from floating despite releasing ballast

Assuming it is the sub and the drone can get it free of whatever is keeping it from floating the questions will be:
-how long will the untested life support actually maintain 5 people
-how quickly can the ship with the sub get to the surface location
-how quickly can the drone find the actual sub and free it

If I were one of the people in that sub I'd probably strangle the CEO to make the scrubbers last a bit longer

>>15513616
hit an iceberg

>>15513774
Not only billionaires, but billionaires who bragged about not hiring white men.
I hope their death was painful.

>>15513616
I still don't understand why the fuck they made it white/grey (very hard to see if it surfaces) and why the fuck they used a wireless controller?

>the current state of this board
Even fucking /tv/ threads about this have less schizos than here

>>15513816
futurama got its science right.

>>15515442
if it's exactly every 30 minutes, it seems likely that it's a man-made signal, right? animals or the ocean itself wouldn't do that

>>15515587
That's the hope, slim as it is.

There's no pressure in space.
That means the oceans of planet Earth could have the highest pressure in the entire universe :O

>>15513673
>real time hull integrity monitoring software running so it looks like they were at least thinking about this possibility
probably some troll off the shelf load cell hooked up to a free trial monitoring software

>>15513616
titanics revenge

>>15515595
>hull integrity
>for carbon fiber
It's either 100% or it's shattered like glass with no inbetween

>>15515593
am I a joke to you?

>>15515536
Well it was written in part by mathematicians

>>15513616
Why is so much effort being put into rescuing them?

>>15513729
fatigue failure ultimately

but if they're tapping. . . . . .

they still alive

>>15515637
its what civil humans do

>you fuck

>5 billionaires disappeared without a trace, despite being searched for by half the world right now and everyone knowing their general location
Hmm, dunno if too schizo, but what are the chances of them just faking their deaths or something?

>OH N-

>>15515667
There's no way they didn't start beating the shit out of the CEO the second desperation started seeping in.

>>15515648
No one would bat an eye if they were random fishermen.

>>15515670

My brother in christ they are eating him right now

>>15515674
>>15515670
They most likely died instantly. The odds of them having a hull breach are a lot greater than them losing comms + movement + somehow not being able to surface, all at the same time.
Which is probably a good thing because dying instantly from a hull breach is better than the alternative at least

Would corpse start smelling after a few days? 1 person has higher chance of survival than all of them together.

>>15515672
sadly true

>good point sir

>>15513616
My hypothesis is that it imploded the moment they lost contact with it.

>>15515737
Wasn't it after only 90 minutes? Have deep could they have gone in that time? Implosion depth?

>>15513616
>A few more millionaires are dead

Who gives a shit
But I can't wait to see a SpaceX shuttle explode live

Something like dis

>>15515746
>Have deep could they have gone in that time?
I assume deep enough for the 1500m certified porthole to explode.

>>15515601
You look funny when you reply like that

But yeah second hand observation and recordable experiences

I hope we find them alive

Any other undersea kino?

>>15513702
he looks like his body has been compressed from years of being in the deep.

>>15515877

books:

http://www.amazon.com/Living-Working-Sea-James-Miller/dp/1886699011/
http://www.amazon.com/Ocean-Outpost-Underwater-Springer-Popular/dp/1441963561/
http://www.amazon.com/Undersea-Colonies-Dennis-Chamberland/dp/1889422150/
http://www.amazon.com/Sealab-Americas-Forgotten-Quest-Ocean/dp/0743247450/
http://www.amazon.com/Pressure-First-Encounter-ebook/dp/B009RYN2U0/
http://www.amazon.com/Undersea-Geoffrey-Morrison-ebook/dp/B0062PXGW6/
http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Life-ebook/dp/B0076DDUCY/
http://www.amazon.com/Starfish-Peter-Watts/dp/0765315963/
http://www.amazon.com/The-Swarm-Novel-Frank-Schatzing/dp/0060859806/

games:

ABZU
Anno 2070 w/Deep Ocean addon pack
Aquanaut's Holiday 1 and 2
Aquanox 1 & 2
Archimedean Dynasty
Bioshock 1 & 2
Blue Submarine No. 6 (Dreamcast)
Deadly Tide
Deep Fear
Deep Fighter
Deep Sea Tycoon
Diluvion
Ecco the Dolphin 1/2/3
Endless Ocean 1 and 2
FarSky
In The Hunt
Narcosis
Sea Quest DSV (SNES/Genesis)
SOMA
Sub Culture
Submarine Titans
Subnautica
Subwar 2050
Treasures of the Deep
XCom: Terror from the Deep


movies:

The Abyss http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096754/
Sphere http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120184/
Leviathan http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097737/
DeepStar Six http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097179/
Deep Blue Sea http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0149261/
Aliens of the Deep http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0417415/
Deep Sea Challenge 3D http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2332883/

>>15513682
>That should not have prevented them from resurfacing.

if you joystick drift into the titanic, it would

>>15515934
forgot about iron lung, i learned about that game with this disaster, i feel really morbid playing that game just now, it has a very similar feel to what those guys are experiencing

I love watching stupid fucking rich people die in the most preventable way possible

>>15515307
>Wait until you learn how expensive super-duper secret military hardware is piloted with xbox controllers
You can't provide a single example. The US Navy controls periscopes and some weapon systems with xbox controllers, but no submarines.

>>15515947
Retard, they lost contact only 1.3 km deep, the Titanic is 4 km deep.

>>15515955
And they use wired, reliable Microsoft controllers built like a brick. Not the cheapest, wireless (!) Logitech pad you wouldn’t give to the little brother of a distant friend to play splitscreen Halo

submersible has fallen
billionaires must die

>>15515959
Yes exactly, but logic doesn't penetrate the logitech shill's head so he keeps whining about anybody who questions the controller being "85 IQ" without presenting any real arguments that stand up to examination of the facts.

>>15515996
Logitech hasn't even made that controller in 15 years. Where did they get it.

>>15513616
>>15514433
>>15514447
This rescue:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rescue_of_Roger_Mallinson_and_Roger_Chapman
Had them with 72 hours of oxygen, test they were rescued alive after 84.5 hours. And apparently had only 12 minutes left at that point.
So maybe they have more time then we think

The banging sounds are the four men taking turns assfucking the twink

>>15513620
Hit the mode button and accidently switched left analog stick with the d-pad and didn't notice the stupid light

>>15513673
This, sudden catastrophic hull failure at the moment communication was lost.

>>15515358
kek

>>15515442
Oh shit, sorry. It was just me banging your whale of a mom.

>>15513673
>They also had some sort of cope real time hull integrity monitoring software running so it looks like they were at least thinking about this possibility
They gave the sub a video game health bar lmao. Who falls for shit like this.

>>15513673
>>15516085
The funniest part of having a "hull monitoring system" is that it's not a titanium hull that might stress, it's a carbon fiber one that will go from totally intact to shattered like glass

What happened
https://youtu.be/ifOzrOgpI4g?t=227

>one "toilet"

>>15513616
Assuming theyre telling the truth about having multiple backup systems to resurface, even in the case of power loss, it either imploded or they’ve surfaced and haven’t been found. Probably the former. Probably the best outcome. A painless and basically instantaneous death is better than sitting in a shit filled tub with four other dudes as you all suffocate.

>>15513641
Kek this is a fantastic theory

They already died of hypothermia at this point.
It's at best 4°C at this depth. Without power and even if they had winter clothes, they'd die of hypothermia after a night or two.

The bangings are likely not from them according to navy veterans. Remember the Titanic is being actively eaten away by bacteria, the structure is collapsing and in about 10 years there shouldn't be much remaining.

>>15515999
>mobile link
fucking nigger

>>15513616
Do you think they kill each other in order to save the oxygen? Because that's what I'll do first.

>>15516278
first time here and i already see the n word

>>15514296
>epilepsy.webm

>>15516280
They probably did that and crawled inside the body cavity to keep warm. We're talking about billionaires here. These "people" will do literally anything to get ahead. One day the submersible will be recovered with their corpses and the horrible truth about these types will be known.

>>15516280
seems right at first, but kill someone in a space so fricking small its dificult

>>15513621
wouldn't the crush depth of a sub this small be insanely deep?

plus they're looking at the titanic to begin with, which is sitting on the seabed, so even if it fails around that area it has nowhere to fall

>>15514383
They don't have to have them. The sub will resurface and it will be a cool story. Also, how do you know that one of them didn't kill the rest to make air last longer? Maybe it will resurface with only the CEO alive and he will tell us of the orgy and death game they had; it's gonna be a cool anime.

>>15516275
>you would gwt hypothermia at 4 degrees
>you would die from 4 degree weather
Lol

>>15516332
Jump in a 4C bath and let's see how you fare

>>15516340
I grew up surfing and diving in water that was between 5 and 10 with surface temps ranging from minus 5 to 0. You aren't getting hypothermia at those temps if you are dry and wearing basic summer clothes like shorts and a t-shirt.

>>15515871
looks fucking miserable

>>15513974
>and a knock-off sony controller lol.
That Logitech is one of the most reliable wireless gaming controllers ever made. It's not the controller's fault the company forgot to account for fatigue of the carbon fiber hull

>>15515955
>>15515959
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgYjvTFR9uA
wow, that took, like, 5 seconds to look up

If they're still somehow alive, imagine the fucking smell

>>15516347
you will ABSOLUTELY die within 72 hours if you are unable to find shelter at those temperatures, what the holy fuck are you talking about?

So which one happened /sci/?
>The submersible surfaced but is lost at sea and the passengers are locked in and are running out of oxygen
>The submersible got stuck thousands of feet underwater
>The submersible imploded
>The submersible had a power failure/lacked CO2 scrubbers so the passengers already died from hypercapnia
>Same as above, only the submersible is trapped deep underwater and the passengers died from hypothermia
>The passengers killed each other
>The passengers sacrificed themselves so the 19 year old could have more oxygen

>>15514581
It is you who is buying into retarded tall tales. The reason there is so much suffering in the world is because of golems like you who buy into the latest retarded tall tales. Your ancestors were huge retarded tall tales buyers.
Coronahoax exposed most of the NPCs like this anon and every new psyop is exposing more and more of them.

>>15516414

no u

>>15515489
They got what they deserved. At least some wholesome justice.

>>15516288
if by "insanely deep" you mean 2k ft then sure lol

>>15513616
why cant it be dragged up if its found? 2 miles of cable and a winch is easier to come up with than a vehicle that is both available and can perform a rescue. it sounds so simple it must be stupid, so why isnt it being done other than an inability to specifically locate the sub?

>>15516436
I have no sympathy for them.

ONLY ONE HOUR OF OXYGEN LEFT TICK TOCK HAHAHA

>>15515599
I'm no engineer, but I'm pretty sure you don't want fail-deadlies when you're dealing with life and death.

>>15516275
with winter clothes above freezing you are fine retard

>>15514560
>Titanic ship was moved to Germany where it was rebuild, mothballed and then sold to the US after WW1 and it became the USS Imperator
>entirely different fore and aft castle
>different arches on the bridge windows

Got caught in a ghost net

>>15513616
bros...

>>15515489
Muh 50 year old white men.
Fuck you boomer you fucked the world by hoarding wealth and lowering living standards. You're not fooling anybody you stupid 60 year old

>>15516275
if they stripped naked and spooned (cocks inserted of course) the middle ones might just make it

>>15516505

>>15516524
why do you expect people who you hate to be nice to you? where did you get the comically outsized and irrational sense of entitlement?

>>15516544
Boomers are not entitled to respect after what they did. The world is on fire and burning to the ground.

>>15516445
because there is nothing you can attach a cable to. no eyelet, no load bearing lifting spot to hook a crane to. this submarine is so retarded, it has to be launched and picked up by a submersible raft, and dragged up a ramp onto the support ship. IF they find it, they would have to build a robot first capable to operate at this depth to lay a harness around it which would have to be custom made as well. nothing they could have achieved in the available time window. maybe in a year of preparation and tests.

>>15513616
>pass the controller to the 20 year old
>he does barrel roll

If there was five women in the sub instead of five men they would have been rescued in time. Remember when the west completely ignored the Boko Haram raping, burning alive and executing over 10,000 young boys but lost their shit when the Boko Haram kidnapped 273 girls and went to rescue them?

>>15516487
Speaking of ghosts I wonder if they’re hallucinating out of panic and seeing ghosts of titanic passengers swimming towards the window. Shit would be a good movie

>>15513673
>no military submarines can go anywhere near that depth
Retard

probably power loss. the sub had this problem before and apparently it didnt experience decompression because knocking was heard, if that is indeed what it was

>>15513616
picrel

>>15516747
power loss would still let them drop ballast and surface

They either got snagged (very likely if they were trying to do what Cameron did, shits risky as fuck) and stuck or the carbon fiber tube failed.

>>15516729
Your point is well taken but not really relevant to this. Consider the flooding cave in SE Asia a few years ago with boy scouts (or something similar). Or the downed Malaysian flight. Sometimes things are just kinda spectacular that draw attention, boy or girl. Now, immigrant sex attacks, human trafficking and verifiable law enforcement cover up, that's girl-oriented news so horrifying we're definitely going to see mass demonstrations and rapid institutional response with that right?

>>15516766
how was the fail safe mechanism designed?

>>15516775
>pneumatic pump to drop ballast
>manually rocking the boat to release the ballast
>disintegrating ballast links to release ballast once submerged for 24+ hours

>>15513616
1) Implosion
2) got caught on something
3) mechanical / electrical failure

I thought submarines increased the internal pressure to make the delta smaller

>>15516789
They can but not to the ~6000 psi at 4km.

>>15513621
>>15513673
>>15513703

It wasnt an instant colapse, the layers of carbon fiber delaminated with pressured water squeezing through them, the walls started leaking water, they tried to resurface but got flooded too quick.
After a while the carbon fiber hull caved in, but it wasnt an instant implosion and they suffered a little bit.

They rest not that far from the Titaninc wreck, a few hundred meters to a couple miles, I think south of it.

Source: I remote viewed it this morning.

They're out of oxygen now

>>15516414
if you want people to take you seriously, you shouldn't use wojacks with commin schizo/retard talking points

>>15516789
There's a limit to how much you can do that before oxygen becomes toxic I think.

>>15516747
Navy says analysis shows the knocking was "background ocean sounds"
There's also new rumors that they were descending to quickly and that a "noise anomaly" occurred just before losing contact

They might have slammed into the ocean floor and imploded

>>15516657
It floats, if it's intact then all they have to do is free it from whatever's keeping it underwater. If it breached it's not in one piece to salvage.

>Millions were wasted in effort to rescue all this retarded niggers
Should have left the at the bottom of the ocean the seconds they hear that the ceo literally ignored all safety regulations.

>>15516811
Nah, they should sue to recover all costs from his estate, no expense spared.

>>15516811
What do you wager is higher?
>The cost of the rescue operation
>The cumulative taxes paid by the drownees

>>15516814
Billionaires do tax evading all the time, so probably the former.

>>15516811
They should use this dead retard's wealth to design a submersible that isn't a macgyvered piece of shit

>>15516657
why don't submarines get manufactured with these bad boys?

>>15516505
what's with people caring this much about random shit? like imagine some basedboy is so invested into some random world event he made a twitter account with oxygen level depletion countdown like what
get a life you fucking loser

>>15516811
>>Millions were wasted in effort to rescue all this retarded niggers
It makes for good training.

Implosion due to cyclical pressure wear. Novel carbon fiber hull never been tested before at depth for repeated dives
Idiot ceo ignoring safety was bound to happen

>>15516814
Meh, the operation has value as a training and inter-agency cooperation exercise

>>15513616
The man best suited to answer this question was piloting the thing.

>Never find them
>therefore never dead
>submarines conformed immortality boxes

>>15516830
It's a custom job designed by the tour company, for one. But I'm not so sure there's nothing that could be used as an eyelet on there.

>>15513616
The man best suited to answer this question is onboard.

>>15515871
fuck that looks like a death trap.
to be fair so do modern air lines with increasinlgy diversity hires, LQBTQBREIFWEIDESHANIQUA - IQ2+2=5!, and doing repairs/maintianiance in Sholuvakistan

>>15516840
The CEO was also woke and refuses to hire white men

>>15516891
>falling for this AGAIN
He wasn't woke, he was cheap.
You dipshits fall for this ruse every goddamned time.
Rich cunts don't hire fresh grads because they "want to inspire" or because of "diversity," that's the kind face they put on to hide the real reason: people with experience cost more and will push back on unreasonable or unsafe demands.
This guy originally did hire a 50 year old white guy and that guy said "this is insane, this hatch is only rated for 1600 meters and you're trying to take commercial passengers to 4000," got fired, and sued.
In any industry you care to name, and I'm guessing you're most interested in either comics/cartoons or video games, the hiring pool is all fresh grads for the same reason. They're cheap and effectively captive labor that won't push back.

>>15516891
Would have happened if he hired white men as well. He didn't want voice communications to interfere with the vibes. Didn't want a tether to interfere with the vibes

>>15516901
>>He wasn't woke, he was cheap.
He will be forever remembered as woke. Let him speak up and correct us.

Unironically; That the controller lost connection.

>>15516912
Doesn't matter cuz he was white

>>15514296
Carbon fiber is a shit conductor.

>>15515871
That'll be $250,000, anon. Now climb in and let us bolt this can shut from the outside

explosive decompression

>>15516891
The dead joystick mauler was a (retarded) 50 year old French ex-sub guy so no.

>>15516505
I CAN'T BREATHE

DON'T PANIC NOW YOU ARE ALL DEAD WE ARE FINALLY SENDING SOME CABLE ACROSS THE ATLANTIC.

>>15517009
That's space, anon. You decompress when you're in 1 atm and the outside is 0 atm.
At the depths they were operating the outside is around 300 to 400 atmospheres. Extreme compression.

How the fuck do fish not implode

>>15517049
I guess they just don't have air trapped in 'rooms' of their body.
The literal titanic is also fine down there, it's full of water.

>>15517058
almost. they do that, and they also have some parts that can withstand high pressure (e.g. their muscles in isolation).

>>15513729
One time they went all the way down with one thruster mounted the wrong direction

>>15516505
Most people see mto be talking about the oxygen reserves, but do they even have energy left to keep the air filters running? If they are alive they have been there for four days now. I don't know about this but do the batteries on this thing even last that long?

>>15517049
It's not the pressure but the change that gets ya, see: blobfish

they just found debris. is it remains?

>>15513616
James Cameron makes this expedition seem like childs play, dude literally went to the deepest part of the ocean

>>15517074
Honestly I would think one of the bigger issues is that the viewport up front is only rated for 1300 meters when they're going 4000 meters. Also it's located where the toilet is so if it breaks while you're taking a shit you're the first to go.

Wouldn't it be funny if the french submersible finds the Titan, and the humans inside are still alive, but they can't be rescued? So they have to watch and slowly suffocate as they are being found but there's nothing that can be done to help them?

(by the way they could still be alive if they sacrificed one of them to preserve oxygen)

>>15517098
>only rated for 1300 meters
I heard that a lot and I'm not sure of the meaning of the word "rated" here. Is rated as in designed for it or just the rating an agency game.

If it's designed for ~1300 and it's supposed to just break a lot after than then those people are the biggest brainlets the seafloor has ever seen.

>>15517093
Cameron obviously didn't cut corners like this retarded ceo did.

>>15517077
There's no way they would announce it if those debris didn't look brand new like submersible parts. Especially near the Titanic, a zone obviously full of century old debris.

>>15517104
I guess rated means that it's confirmed safe for 1300m through trials, experiments, mathematical calculations. While it could still be safe at 4000m but it's not confirmed

>>15517105
It was funny watching that documentary where Bill Paxton is visibly shitting his pants all the way down to the wreck

So they are now saying they found a "debris field" but isn't the wreck vincinity one huge debris field? They should be able to recognize the two titanium hemispheres though, pressure wont do shit to these.

Credits to the OceanGate team full of incompetent turds. An underwater implosion is extremely loud, they would have picked it up on hydrophone even a hundred km away.

I love that these billionaire fucks probably drowned or some shit. Their souls are now banished to hell, where all rich people go.

>>15517115
uhm you try recognizing two titanimum hemispheres at an underwater depth of 4000m and without swimming goggles

>>15517116
does a tree make noise when it falls but nobody is listening? checkmate atheists

WITH A DYING THIRST
TO BE THE FIRST
COULD IT BE?
IT'S HIM
JAMES CAMERRROOON

>>15517111
I only have a background for structural engineering, and we usually design for roughly "twice the forces" there or more for high safety cases (hospitals/schools/etc.).
In that logic: they only designed it for roughly ~3000km so they were pretty stupid.

>>15516702
fucking madcatz!

>>15517110
>near the Titanic, a zone obviously full of century old debris.
what the fuck are you talking about. the titanic sank a billions years ago.
the debris of it is gone for good and the water is crystal clear apart from the occasional seagull shit.

>>15516901
This

>>15517135
its been a hundred years, there is anything on the ocean floor that isn't covered by sediment now. In fact in cameron's documentary they showed this pretty clearly, the floor around the ship is clear with no debris

Ship itself is sitting in it up to its anchor too

>>15517116
That's probably why they waited hours after the rumored rapid descent and attempt to release ballast. They knew they were dead and wanted a head start on ass covering

>>15516834
sorry your reddit mods are protesting

>>15514091
I followed him on twitch for a bit as an ex submariner because it was interesting that he was on twitch. quickly realized he was view-botting. he left his channel showing replay of some presentation he made for like 3 weeks and the views were at 361-363 for weeks

Why did they used the wireless controllers though? Didn't the wired one are cheaper?

>>15517178
CEO wanted to be able to pass it around like a joint

>>15516922
MORE POWER

>>15516834
>what's with people caring this much about random shit?
It's called boredom. are you some sort of space alien who doesn't understand people at all?

>>15517110
>There's no way they would announce it if those debris didn't look brand new like submersible parts.
This. They already know the whole area is strewn with century old debris, so if they're announcing debris it's because they have strong reason to believe this debris is new.

>>15515999
If that's the case they have about 6 hours and 16 minutes of air left right now at this very moment. If there not find by 4:12PM PST they've suffocated

>>15517201
https://twitter.com/USCGNortheast/status/1671907901542211584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

>>15517049
They have a tube that runs through their body that adjusts the pressure

Sidenote: no one's mentioning that haven't had any food or water for at least two days at this point on top of sitting still in -30 degree Fahrenheit temperature.

They're dead AF with it without the air

>>15517049
Fish aren't made of carbon fiber, obviously. Carbon fiber is implosive.

>>15517221
>Sidenote: no one's mentioning that haven't had any food or water for at least two days at this point on top of sitting still in -30 degree Fahrenheit temperature.
It has been announced that searchers found a debris field. They imploded, probably shortly before their mother ship realized contact had been lost.

>>15513630
They had dissolving weights. If it hasn't surfaced it's imploded.

THE CURRENT THING? HOOWLY FAWK I'M CUMMING!!!

Debris is 'landing frame and rear cover from sub', expert says
A rescue expert says the debris found in the search for Titan was "a landing frame and a rear cover from the submersible".

David Mearns, who is friends with two of the passengers on board Titan, says he is part of a WhatsApp group involving The Explorers Club.

Mr Mearns told Sky News the president of the club, who is "directly connected" to the ships on the site, said to the group: "It was a landing frame and a rear cover from the submersible."

https://news.sky.com/story/titanic-submarine-missing-live-updates-submersible-cannot-be-opened-from-inside-time-running-out-on-oxygen-supply-waiver-mentions-death-three-times-12905748#6086594

It's unironically over

>>15517244
Meh, i prefered that they slowly suffocated to death while the room is full of smell of shit and piss.

>>15517244
The entire carbon fiber hull imploded into minuscule dust.

How do you think the guys in the sub are doing bros?

>>15517178
>Didn't the wired one are cheaper?
ESL posters should be shot on site

>>15517244
The landing frame is detachable as ballast IIRC, but the rear cover means the carbon fiber imploded for sure.
The died in a fraction of a second

>>15517228
If the fucking ship had an hydrophone they would had probably heard it implode, right?

>>15517285
They did heard the lound banging sound. That probably the sound of sub imploded

>>15513616
some took a stinky shit and the whole sub was gassed to death

AAHAHAHHAHA

>>15517297
Maybe crazy millionaires shouldn't be able to sell tickets to ride on their untested uncertified death capsule even if they do it in international waters

GO WOKE LOSE YOUR LIFE

>>15517307
why hire expensive white guys when you can buy colored fresh graduates for cheap

>>15517307
Anon, please

>>15517315
He is right tho

>>15517307
>>15517313
>>15517316
he did hire a 50 year old white guy
then that guy said "this is insane, you're going to kill people"
then stockton fired that guy and hired people too young/inexperienced to talk back to him
Diversity and wokeness had fuck all to do with it
Stop falling for this shit

my question is. Why not make it remote controlled? bro do you really need 4km of water on top of your head to feel accomplished?

>>15517301
why not?

>>15517318
>Diversity and wokeness had fuck all to do with it. Stop falling for this shit

They are still bad though

>>15517318
>asking 4changs to not fall for rage bait
come on, anon. that's literally the reason most chuds are here: the limitless ability to consume and comment on rage bait. It's the fuel of their life.

>>15517325
How is reddit and twitter any different than this place then?

>>15517285
If they were paying attention, and if they were willing to believe it when they heard it...

>>15517297
>thruster is installed backwards
!?!
>the fix is to... hold the controller sideways
WHAT??!?!?!!?
How does the PHYSICAL ORIENTATION of the controller effect anything?!?

>>15514009
the steering wheel of a formula 1 car is about 50k. Might be excessive but at least spend more than 15 bucks and get an original xbox controller.

>>15517301
>oh noo some billionaires died..
>we should take away everybody's right to have fun unless it's been certified by government nannies
Fuck off.

>>15517318
Go woke, get imploded.

>>15516901
>He wasn't woke, he was cheap.
he 100% was woke. but this is irrelevant. He ignored the laws of physics, really doesnt matter your ideology if you ignore the laws of physics. Those are above
each side wants to act as if the laws of physics are on their side, theyre on neither, they are their own side, all succesful engineers know this

>>15517345
You misunderstand me
Rich cunts should be able to kill themselves in whatever fantastical ways they desire
The problem is letting them make money doing it to other people

>>15517350
Nah fuck off. If people want to pay to ride on shit that is EXPLICITLY disclaimed as experimental and unregulated, that is their right.

>>15517341
best I can do is madkatz

>>15517104
>>15517111
rated means its 100% guaranteed to be safe at that depth, even in the most extreme situations, even if you are having a very bad day in all senses. Beyond that it MIGHT survive. but its not guaranteed.

Also improtant to note, the rated limit means you can do it and not risk cumulative wear and tear that would eventually lead to failure.

Say, its rated for 1300, but theres an extreme emergency and you cant surface but youll be a lot safer if you drop to 1500-2000, they would decide to just do it but then scrap the sub because you just cant know what kind of damage it had.

Going over the safety limit again and again just to save a few bucks is so extremely stupid it defies all reasoning, civilians, particularly stupid civilians have no business in this and they learned it the hard way.

>>15517361
>civilians, particularly stupid civilians have no business in this and they learned it the hard way.

Let the people have some fun

>>15517368
I mean sure, but i really feel sorry for them. I dont wish for people to suffer, the kid particularly is very tragic, imagine if his father forced him into it.

The rest of course, everyone should be entitled to kill themselves if they want to, just not harming someone else

>>15517361
>civilians, particularly stupid civilians have no business in this
Military nuke boats are designed and built by civilians, FYI. The Electric Boat Company (or whatever GE calls it now) is a civilian company, not part of the Navy.

>>15517324
This is the science and math board

>>15517297
No one's mentioned it white yet, but the hubris of meaning something Titan one again ends in disaster. Ironic that it was an exciting to the TITANic of all things.

Still pending what happens with the eugenics baby in silicon valley

>>15517373
General Dynamics, whatever. Point is, the preeminent submarine design experts are civilians.

>>15517221
>Sidenote: no one's mentioning that haven't had any food or water for at least two days at this point on top of sitting still in -30 degree Fahrenheit temperature.
They had food and water onboard albeit a small amount. Hopefully it's nothing that'll give them the shits or rancid gas though because the only thing separating the toilet from the rest of the submarine is a thin privacy curtain. Considering Stockton is a fucking idiot it's probably safe to assume he packed curry for the Pakis.

>>15517378
Don't forget the Titanic was preceded by a book about a ship named the Titan, which was just like the Titanic and also sank after hitting an iceberg.

So we've gone full circle. Titan -> Titanic -> Titan

>>15517383
>Considering Stockton is a fucking idiot it's probably safe to assume he packed curry for the Pakis.
Top kek

>>15517383
True, but the trip was supposed to last six hours. They probably had a light snack, not enough did to last the 4 days they've been down there.

So, even with rationing they've probably been out of food and water for a day or two

>>15517385
Good call out.

If you refuse to lessen from history, it will repeat itself

>>15517385
they basically jinxed themselves by naming it after that original story of a wreck...

that and building a submarine that was obviously and predictably faulty which was denounced by one of their own engineers as well as every other submarine company, then instead of changing their ways just silencing the whole deal using lawyers...

but hey, the name must have helped too

>>15517355
I trust this POS with a DB-15 connector more than a shitty logitech controller

>>15517341
F1 cars are a lot more complex than a submersible that can only turn and move up and down at one speed.

It's ogre

>>15516834
only thing i see is the guys on board had money. that is it. Underwater deaths happen all the time like oil platform barochambers or divers getting lost in caves/wrecks and dying in there. One of these fresh water cave corpses lead to some infamous footage in the failed rescue op where the then mummified dead guys head floats across the camera view port

it must be leftypol pests flood spamming this submarine story across all boards. they take extra pleasure whenever some randoms with money die due to their inherent pettiness and jealousy

>>15517529
Billionaires all deserve to die, but It's a shame about the kid and pilot.

imploded

>>15517561
link?

so they were crushed into a mist?

>>15515593
There are much higher pressures in our gas giants.

>>15513616
The hull was compromised at a certain depth, and it blew up, killing everyone inside instantly.

The crew did not just sit there for a week.

>>15513630
There was no electronic failure.
The memes around the joystick was just speculation. The sub blew up shortly after they departed.

>>15513630
The sub just imploded

>>15517627
this, the logitech controller imploded the hull.

>>15517638
enough about the controller, this is like bat soup levels of ridiculousness.

They were crushed to liquid slush the moment the wessel imploded. There will be no bodies. Only bones - at best. Some teeth maybe.

>>15517672
crabs have probably already skeletalized the remains.

>>15517372
Getting imploded is a pretty terrible way to go. I hope whoever's left learns their lesson and the company just sticks to unmanned drones tethered to ships where you can watch the live footage from some kind of theatrical viewing room. It would probably be cheaper too.

>>15517693
>Getting imploded is a pretty terrible way to go.
does it hurt?

>>15517725
No. Your brain would be mush before a single neuron could fire an action potential in response.

>>15517693
>Getting imploded is a pretty terrible way to go
Much better than slowly suffocating.

>>15517772
What if your brain is already mush

>>15515934
How the hell could you forget Barotrauma?

>>15517101
No. That would not be funny. It would be horrifying and hopeless.

>>15517373
Electric Boat is also a hellpit of retardation these days according to guys I know who used to work there