/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15509984
solar winds have lots of electrons
lots of electrons with different charges flow into poles and cause all sorts of magnetic interactions causing weather influences
solar activity is exactly what gives weather energy and a reason for water go up and down

>>15510104
A lot of that vertical movement of water vapor in the atmosphere has to do with convection, but energy is energy, I guess if you dump in a bunch of excess energy on top of the normal convective energy then that could exacerbate weather activity.
The first part of what you wrote was kind of vague, I didn't quite get exactly what you're trying to say. Are you saying if I hooked up a Tesla coil to a nuclear reactor I could make it rain?

>>15510167
>A lot of that vertical movement of water vapor in the atmosphere has to do with convection
I don't know if you've seen any studies of the polar vortex and its magnetic signature, but the input of solar energy via charged particles literally causes the convective currents of air in the atmosphere. Though perhaps ironically it's most visible on other planets, such as Jupiter, which are better studied in those details.

>>15509984
Energy entering the atmosphere has literally been pushing particles into motion. The sun has always been one of the main influencing factors in air and water movement.

>>15510180
And as the Earth's magnetic field weakens, air currents like the polar vortex will become more erratic as the energy input becomes more erratic.

>>15510190
is the magnetic field really weakening? thats sounds like yet another made-up soience doomsday story

>>15510223
Measurements have been taken for nearly 100 years. You can measure the pole shift if you're willing to triangulate the poles with some friends in other countries.

>>15510226
what do the measurements say? only that the pole is shifting around? or is it getting substantially weaker?

>>15509984
weather =/= climate

>>15510440
It's getting substantially weaker, and the weakening is accelerating according to NASA. 5% field strength reduction per decade up from 5% per century.

>>15509984
this doesn't support the carbon credit economy and therefore it's psuedoscience

>>15509984
it should at least be a means of forecasting the weather. i have never seen a weather forecast that took solar activity into account.

>>15510460
stop spamming the board with your ridiculous end-of-world doomsday propaganda, nobody believes in that garbage. nasa isn't a scientific organization, they're a government mouthpiece that spreads lies

>>15511145
Space Weather News and quakewatch.net use it to forecast storms and earthquakes.

fervent heat from the ground
start at 1:14
https://youtu.be/xtR04-kd5UI?t=74

>>15511364
Interesting scientific observation.

>>15511190
Are they more accurate than the forecasters who ignore solar activity?

>>15511634
Yes.

>>15511685
Is there really a correlation between earthquakes and solar activity? That seems like it should be more widely known, but I found
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598- 020- 67860- 3
>Large earthquakes occurring worldwide have long been recognized to be non Poisson distributed, so involving some large scale correlation mechanism, which could be internal or external to the Earth. Till now, no statistically significant correlation of the global seismicity with one of the possible mechanisms has been demonstrated yet. In this paper, we analyze 20 years of proton density and velocity data, as recorded by the SOHO satellite, and the worldwide seismicity in the corresponding period, as reported by the ISC-GEM catalogue. We found clear correlation between proton density and the occurrence of large earthquakes (M>5.6), with a time shift of one day. The significance of such correlation is very high, with probability to be wrong lower than 10–5. The correlation increases with the magnitude threshold of the seismic catalogue. A tentative model explaining such a correlation is also proposed, in terms of the reverse piezoelectric effect induced by the applied electric field related to the proton density. This result opens new perspectives in seismological interpretations, as well as in earthquake forecast.

which seems to back up the idea.

>>15511995
>Is there really a correlation between earthquakes and solar activity? That seems like it should be more widely known, but I found
Despite being very well evidenced, it's on the fringes of earth science for reasons I really don't understand. But yeah there is a strong correlation and EM effects are frequently observed prior to or during earthquakes.

>>15512001
>it's on the fringes of earth science for reasons I really don't understand
probably poor understanding of physics by most of people interested in geology. they probably learn some mechanics and maybe some thermodynamics, but if they go much further than that then they might as well just get a physics degree and forget about geology altogether. plus EM math is annoying
>calculate various statistics about the electric field of this square solenoid
I wish I'd never bothered with it myself, what a waste of time

>>15512052
Piezoelectricity isn't a foreign topic in geology though. But I think you're right that it has to do with a resistance to going outside their discipline for answers. If they admit that space weather influences earthquake prediction then they're giving up a lot of their own pet theories and putting the ball (and the grant money for a life-saving technology) almost entirely in another department's court.

>>15512069
>and the grant money for a life-saving technology) almost entirely in another department's court.
yeah, and astronomers are probably the greediest and most money hungry scientists out there. they can get and waste money like nobody else, thats what seems to be their main skill.

>>15509984
>effects
retard.

>>15511364
that guys is an amusing sperg, reminds me of jack horkheimer, but he is so excited that he is too incoherent to convey much information about what got him so excited.

>>15514184
OP video is far more informative

Its stupid that this topic isn't more well studied. Astronomers have wasted the past 50 years on dark matter and other pointlessness when they could've been doing something useful.
>b-b-but theres no low hanging fruit left
here it is, kiddo

I can see how charged particles from the sun could make storms heavier, but wouldn't the effect be mainly around the poles?