/sci/ - Science & Math

>HULLO

TED

>Previous climate studies of tidally locked planets assume the planets are perfectly tidally locked. However, many tidally locked planets are in multiplanet systems where the planets will experience orbital forcing from their neighbors. It should be noted, however, that single-planet systems, multiplanet systems with large orbital spacing, or certain multiplanet architectures may be sufficiently described as near perfectly tidally locked
>Vinson et al. (2019), who conducted a similar analysis as this paper on spin behavior, describe this unique spin state as chaotic. We classify this spin state, generally, as ’tidally locked with sporadic rotation’ (TLSR).
>The TLSR spin state is unique in that the spin behavior is often not consistently tidally locked nor is it consistently rotating. Instead, the planet may suddenly switch between spin behaviors that have lasted for only a few years or up to hundreds of millennia
>the planet may spin 180◦ so that the previous substellar longitude is now located at the new antistellar point,and vice versa.
Imagine chilling on the comfiest longitude on your eyeball planet for 100s of years, and then it starts to rotate. Apocalyptic.

>>15470710
this shatters my dreams of the incredible tiny chance of there being cool life on eyeball planets

Some roggets

>>15470718
Could be life, it would just have to survive random extinction events.
You could also have an eyeball planet where there are no other planets in the star system, that would probably be pretty much safe.

>>15470726
Mm, Roggets.

we have to get off this fucking rock

>>15470747
that is the only reason I am still living, to go to space (and I am also excited for new upcoming Marvel movies, wouldn't want to miss those if I killed myself)

>>15470754
(be firm) no

>>15470740
>engines ignite, liftoff only when clamps retract
>just like the shuttle
starship becomes more and more like shuttle everyday...

>>15470754
faggot

>>15470757
Early generations of rockets tried retraction at engine ignition, but that's a good way to drop a rocket on the ground as the engines fail to reach full thrust for a few seconds after ignition. Video not entirely related.

Chang Zheng 2F a baka. BAKA

will rocket 4 be a success? Will it ever even get off the ground?

Will Terran R, Neutron and New Glenn eat into Falcon 9 demand?

>>15470797
it will eat SpaceX alive. Any company not managed by a fraud will destroy SpaceX

>>15470829
Gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8

What's your favorite exoplanet system and why?

>>15470826
theoretically yes, but I don't see that happening for a few more years. By then starship is likely to be at least beginning to deliver payloads.

what keeps you here, earth man?

>>15470797
>will rocket 4 be a success?
Maybe. It should at the very least be more successful than rocket 3. They stopped trying to make the engines themselves and there are fewer of them and its a more capable rocket on paper.
>Will it ever even get off the ground?
It already has contracts so hopefully that can keep astra from folding before at least a test flight.

>>15470691
Haha I saw this on Reddit today. that makes two /sfg/ redditors :)

>>15470854
this is my post as well: >>15470754

>old thread still on page 8
Early staged thread sucking early, as usual.

any italians on sfg tonight?

>>15470756
:15-:22 is what hell looks like

>>15470834
Notice how nobody responded? Take your nigger tier astroonomer shit to a different thread, this is /sfg/ not /sffg/

HLS a boy...

>>15470875
mods

you're too obvious.
what do you think about >>15470878?

>>15470882
Who the fuck are you talking to? I hate schizos so much bros

>>15470875
that is not what SS is supposed to mean in /sfg/

>>15470691
Elon spooges at the thought of having one of his acolytes end up like that "in service to the greater good of humanity" or some shit

probably a few willing to partake in "the science" here on sci

New Armstrong when?

>>15470903
Many people died colonizing the Americas, same with everywhere else anon. If people die, they won't be doing it with elon and science in mind.

>>15470904
after new glenn heavy

>>15470907
You mean their last words won't be
for elon and humanity
before they ack?
elon would be disappointed

>>15470916
he's the guy heading the company designing the boat, so no.

DEAD
DEAD
DEAD

>>15470691
Threadly reminder that rocketry is quite literally archaic technology and so as long as the frontiers of physics and math have not budged forward once bit since the 1930s when it was handicapped by general relativity, humanity will never get off of this rock and will most likely go extinct here.

china: "we plan to land humans on the moon in 2030"

>jaded spacefags
"call us when you get there"
>the general public
"what? who cares humans already went to the moon."
>new spacefags
"LOL china can only copy stuff enjoy flying to the moon on chinesium soyuz also FUCK ELON MUSK"

>>15471054
All I got right now are dumb speculations and dumber memes. Posting either will degrade the quality of this general.

>>15471118
true. /sfg/ is on life support because nothing is happening, and we still have to wait MONTHS till OFT-2

>>15470875
Wrong

>>15470757
SpaceX retracted the hold-down clamps FIFTEEN MINUTES before launch. The clamps are only needed to counteract wind forces before the tanks are full enough for the weight of the rocket to be self-stabilizing. You would know this if you watched the stream but you're an oldspace tourist who doesn't actually care about spaceflight, just your barely reusable obsolete flying coffin

reminder that nasa is taking RS-25s out of museums and killing 4 of them with each SLS launch. there will be nothing left of the shuttle program in 10 years, while starship will be so commonplace that putting one in a museum would be like preserving a toyota corolla or honda civic

>>15471104
China will go to Mars before Musk

>>15470826
At best, New Glenn will manage to keep Amazon from putting Kuiper satellites on F9 in desperation as every other rocket's schedule continues to slip (Arianne 6 won't fly till '24, Vulcan is still in "where's my engines jeff" cope mode, Russians probably won't even be an option in a few years)
Hard R and New Tron are realistically still 3+ years from commercial flights, and RocketLab still hasn't finalized the design at all, so it might even be 5-6 years out for them.

>>15470871
yes

We should send a bunch of extremophiles to Venus.
>you like volcanic vents at the bottom of the ocean?
>perhaps I can interest you in volcanic vents on Venus
Just drop them off and leave them to their own devices. maybe when we check back in a few decades they will have built nice alien reefs

>>15471104
>jaded spacefags
FAA delays/stops SpaceX another 2 years

>>15471201

>>15471191
FAA cope still going even after OFT-1?

>>15471229
They delayed it by 2 years, and now with lawsuits, there maybe another long delay

how come astra gets to just shut off the engines as a FTS but spacex has to blow theirs up? I want to see starship fall into the sea.

>>15471213
I love chubby spaceplanes. They're cute.

>>15471242
Kys Clearnigger

>>15471232
did you fucko boingo clown retard not get the message that the FAA is fighting a lawsuit ON BEHALF of SpaceX and now SpaceX has JOINED THEM in alliance AGAINST the environmentalists who originally filed the suite?
I hate capitalizing words for emphasis like that but you're such a stupid nigger that it became absolutely positively necessary to get the point across, fucking subhuman get off /sfg/

>>15471233
This is like asking why a dinghy doesnt have to follow the same rules as a cruise ship when returning to port

>>15471233
rocket 3 in one piece is smaller than the post FTS chunks of starship

>>15471262
Next you'll say Biden is protecting America.

>>15470747
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUpBSvN1a50

>>15471232
>They delayed it by 2 years
Should have delayed it another fucking year so SpaceX could make a flame trench lmao

>>15471271
Mods

>>15471278
trench flamers will be btfo in 2 months

>>15471161
Pic related?

>>15470834
pulsar planets because they're sterile and therefore no one jerks off over potential lifeforms on them

>>15471278
Should've waited 20 years to do R/D and charged NASA $4 billion per year in R/D. Then sell Starship for $4.2B per year

>>15471283

>>15471293
>deflecting to SLS because your FAA cope got called out

>>15471296
Cant argue out of your own hyperhole?

>>15470718
Don't be too disheartened, these types of dynamical systems are very hard to simulate well

>>15471300
What does SLS have to do with SpaceX clearly needing more time to get the orbital flight working?

>>15471305
What does that have to do with FAA "defending" lawsuits about beetles?

Dumb nigger

HOW TO SPOT A NASA NIGGER:
They say anything positive about flametrenches or SLS

https://twitter.com/TylerG1998/status/1663285170894454784
>A new high-definition #ArtemisI recap video can be found deep within #NASA’s Exploration Ground Systems News & Resources page, showing views of LAS jettison, SAW deploy, the cruise around the Moon, and more.
>You can find the video here:

and you'll have to go to the tweet for the video link because faggot 4channel thinks it's spam

>>15471308
I'm not that anon

>>15471312
Not NASA niggers, but retarded reddit niggers

>>15470829
>"Orange man bad!"

>>15470834
>exoplanets

>>15467979
Reports of my death in the last thread were greatly exaggerated. Had to stop making videos as I got an actual space industry job. Glad you guys enjoyed though.

>>15470797
No. They're continuing to bleed people to stay afloat and have no contracts beyond the generic Space Force new rocket test payload.

>STILL no StarFactory in Arkansas

This whole boca chica fiasco was a giant waste of time

>>15471242
Imagine the AGAs.

>>15471337
M E G A S O N I C
O R B I T A L
D R I F T I N G

>>15470691
are these the three ungrateful crybabies who were complaining about "too much oxygen" in their capsule? I think russian astronauts are made out of tougher stuff

>>15471348
Gus would have slapped you silly, sonny boy

>>15471348
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperoxia
human bodies are not really made for space
too much heat, ack
too little heat, ack
too much oxygen, ack
too little oxygen, ack
too little pressure, ack
too high pressure, ack
too much CO2, ack
too much nitrogen, hallunications -> ack

>>15471353

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1663231259785723904

Shenzhou launch LIVE

https://youtu.be/moM5Ien7UwM

T-1 hour

>>15471365
I mean its true, I dont like it but it is true.

>>15470903
Unironically me. PLEASE, I'm 100% serious I will be the first footstep to Mars written in blood. Please Elon if you are reading this. I need to die a fiery death, living is unbearable, I'm no Starman but I will train my ass off if you give me a chance.

>>15471365
>>15471395
Yes, but thats the way of life. No one has to like what others are, just that they are simply as such.

If you post it on /k/, they'll call your a liar lol

Reading about early french rocketry industry highlights how the only reason continental western europe even ever had large liquid rocket engines is entirely thanks to Karl Heinz Bringer and his team of a few dozen germans who were working in vernon in the 50s and 60s

>>15471401
>Reading about early french
Stopped reading there

>>15471182
Not a bad idea. What kinda demented person doesn't want to spread life.

>>15471365
Is this gonna be like the F-15 where we tell ourselves our adversaries are way ahead of where they really are, so our programs can get a bajillion dollars to beat them?

>>15471421
probably

>>15471409
Good idea desu

>>15471421
China getting to the moon by 2030 is a perfectly achievable goal with the technology they have now. Their new capsule is well into development, their lander is reasonable, and everything they need to build the LM-10 they already have. One launch stages a lander to lunar orbit and a second sends a crew capsule out to meet it. We could run this exact same mission architecture right now using Falcon Heavy.

The key difference between this and Artemis is that this is only capable of a flags and footprints mission instead of starting an outpost. Then again, you can't really maintain a lunar outpost with SLS either.

Is this going to be another one of those rockets that renters uncontrollably?

>>15471365
https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1663353815641337862

>>15471442
Depends which stage actually makes orbit.

HERE WE GOOOOO

RIP villagers

>>15471373
1:31 AM UTC
WE GAAN...

BING CHILLING SUCCESSFUL

They jet the LES tower before the strap ons and core stage burn out? Weird choice

>Starship still can't launch

uh oh stinky

>>15471467

>>15471373
Glad to see the china added cameras to the second stage.

Berger with a shot at Chinese space designs.

How can Elon even compete

>>15471373
1:50 AM UTC
Launch mission successful

>>15471487
Sending four dudes into space instead of three is a good start

It's over

There are currently 17 people in space

>>15471501
12 of them are asians

>>15471506
that falls roughly in line with world population percentages

>>15470710
>>15470727
Sounds like a game of thrones

this might be off topic but I don't want the illerminerty to come after me if I'm onto something.

what's bothering me is: if Betelgeuse is 10-20+ times larger than our sun, and 600 lightyears away, how is its supernova not a threat to our solar system/atmosphere? the crab nebula was created by a supernova from a star ~10 times larger than our sun, and it's 6000 lightyear across, we're relatively close to Betelgeuse in this framework, and considering how little we know about supernovas, and the recent strange solar system activity, why aren't you science nerds worried about it?

tl;dr - are nearby supernovas the "great filter"? are we about to get sifted? or is space fake and this is the pretextual crisis for one world government and antichrist?

>>15471510
>[The Crab Nebula] has a diameter of 3.4 parsecs (11 ly)

>>15471510
Short of Quantized Inertia horizon drives (or magic FTL) and nuclear fusion powerplants both becoming suitable for manned interstellar travel there's nothing anyone could do about it. Why worry for no reason?

>>15471516
oh was I completely wrong? I must have misread wikipedia

aren't there entire "bubbles" of space that have been cleared out by supernovas?

>>15471510
Square cube law
Unless it's gamma ray bursts
Then it's not square cube

>>15471510
>if Betelgeuse is 10-20+ times larger than our sun, and 600 lightyears away, how is its supernova not a threat to our solar system/atmosphere?
>we're relatively close to Betelgeuse in this framework

It is 600 light years away. There is no framework where the terms "light year" and "relatively close" coexist.

>>15471510
>are nearby supernovas the "great filter"?
Could be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7PM8iDt_4w

>>15471365
most people probably dont even know china has a space program or even people in space. most people probably dont care either.

speaking of things people dont care about...

>In a matter of a few days humanity has broken the record for most people in space at one time and most people living in orbit at one time. These records were last broken just a mere few years ago and it's very likely they'll be broken again in just a few years. Incredible times
https://twitter.com/Alexphysics13/status/1663360860620828676

>>15471545
>speaking of things people dont care about...
Call me when the spaceflight record is set with entirely American manpower.

>per interviews on CCTV just now, the Chinese are planning their first crew lunar landing mission on the 5th & 6th Long March 10 launches
https://twitter.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1663375367481229312

>>15471545
Spinhabs NAO! We can't be paying dudes millions to train them underwater for fuckall reason. Just put them in spinhabs factories and they can frolick about in zero g their spare time

>>15471559
It's a red herring
They send suicide mission to moon
Then declare the first american landings was fake
Chaos

>>15471559
When’s the first flight planned and cadence? We know Long March 10 will launch in 2033 but I can’t find any info on CZ-10

>>15471559
That sounds reasonable and in character for China. They're going to want to do at least one test flight each for the capsule and lander and they did four unmanned Shenzhou launches before they sent the first crew up. Two of each before the first landing wouldn't be unexpected.

>>15471545
virgin galactic didn't make it to space

>>15471559
>Apollo 2.0
Ehh, cool I guess, better than nothing. Thank goodness SpaceX is a thing.

bros quick some one grab our beloved krystal

>>15471559
It seems the LEO version will get a separate name, so I would expect the Chinese to follow something like this:
* Launch 1: Apollo 4+6
* Launch 2: Apollo 8 (perhaps straight to lunar orbit)
* Launch 3+4: Apollo 10 (dress rehearsal)
* Launch 5+6 : Apollo 11
https://twitter.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1663378340299051008

>>15471595
Cut her fingers off and punch a hole in her helmet

Jeet space station when?
>designated shitting module

>4 tests in 4 years

NASA could never

>>15471635
Congress forbids NASA from dropping SLS and going Starship all together

>>15471637
source?

>>15471644
https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/06/legislation-requires-nasa-to-build-sls-test-article-after-initial-flights/

>chinese crash land on moon
>no rescue possible
>elon sends a starship hls
most likely scenario

>>15471262
Okay and the lawyers fighting for Miller were totally on the pro-gun side as well I'm sure. Tell me some more lies.

>>15471652
>>elon sends a starship hls
They would have to get a license for that, first.

>>15471409
based enemy of evil
also france cannot into space, so posting about the french here is off topic

>>15471652
You forgot
>Starship landing kicks up a bunch of sharp rocks and punches holes in the Chinese tin cans
>chinkstronauts all die anyways

>>15471660
starship hls engines are at the top

>>15471662
Chinese products are made of explodium.

https://twitter.com/MarcusHouse/status/1663375359411384320

Starlink stealing NBN customers LMAO

>>15471629
When they get a rocket that can launch 20 tons to LEO. It's going to be a while. That's past what the GSLV-4 is supposed to be able to lift.

>>15471658

>>15471669
for posting? No need, I'm from Mars, no laws here.

>>15471669
>get me rocket loiconce
>dont have a bloody rocket
bollocks

I hate Manlet

>>15471688
>average sales of FH goes for ~150M
>avg SLS costs ~4.2B
4.2billion/150M = 28X more expensive. or 1/28

>>15471690
even adjusted for payload to orbit AND additional payload cost to split it into multiple chunks it's cheaper

>>15471691
Well NASA doesn't pay a single dime for Falcon Heavy development. So there's that you need to factor too.

SLS development costs alone will go in ~40+B before we take into account of the SLS hardware itself.

If we assume SLS will launch 20 times before retirement, thats another 2 billion per SLS cost ammortized alone. 20 SLS launched once every 1.5 years = SLS usage well into 2050. I dont think SLS can even survive to 2040 let alone 2050, but lets assume such.

So thats 4.2B + 2B = 6.2B / 150M = 41.33X Falcon Heavy launch x 70 ton to orbit = 2893 ton to orbit.

>>15471629
After redeem the kerlax engine and nglv expendable sirs

>>15470754
I hope you're being ironically a faggot

>>15470875
mr hands moment

>>15471161
Lolno and if only

>>15471313
I would use the Alpaca as aerial pressurized transportation ngl

Could someone do a retard a favor and post the Starliner mission progress webm? I keep fucking up and not saving it.

good morning sirs indian space program has the most kino ui thank you sirs please redeem

>>15471788
Need more telemtry from the other gyys seriously

>>15471329
What's wrong with them?

>>15470878
Ah, this must be why all the flat earth fucknuggets have suddenly shut the fuck up.

>>15471182
Only Venus doesn't have any oceans you ignorant dumbfuck inbred hick

>>15471882

>>15471667
and people wonder why musk is hated
so many industries disrupted

>>15471559
I wonder why NASA is so against multiple launch missions

It worked pretty well back in the Gemini days

>>15471936
>He's taking away our customers by selling a better product for less! Somebody stop him!

>>15471942
goddamn that looks unreal

>>15471941
competition is bad (generally). monopolies are good

>>15471953
You forgot your big ol' Sarcasm indicator

>>15471545
Why should they care? They aren't doing anything new up up there. Would you care if 1000 people wintered at McMurdo station?

>>15471955
Kys stupid redditard 4chins doesnt use sarcasm indicators

>>15471333
based
good luck with your career anon

>>15471974
Says the blatant tourist who ESLs their way out of being able to use punctuation.

>>15470691
ACK

>>15471667
Good. Fuck internet providers who spent decades doing fuck all whole increasing prices yearly.

>>15470740
musk is such a fucking idiot
>water trench what for?

>>15472006
they had to dig the pad out anyway, this was a unconventional way of doing it

>>15472010
well, all in the name of scie-ACK

>>15472006
>Something's damaged once
LITERALLY UNFIXABLE!!

This is why oldspace is getting its shit pushed in: none of this damage actually matters.

>>15471688
>by some estimates
>experts say
>studies show
>CNN believes
>MSNBC has found
>FBI agrees
>leaked intelligence reveals
>Pentagon confirms
>a source familiar with the matter tells BBC
>a source who spoke on condition of anonymity pointed to
>multiple reports from both sides
>public sentiment suggests
>the police has announced
>according to analysts
>it is projected
>audio reports detail

>>15471998
> doesn't realise that half those increases are taxes to protect nbn from starlink and 5g competition

>>15471948
>fisheye lens
>parachutes
Absolute state of sciencegolems

>>15471946
This one is blatant CGI

Threadly reminder you are never ever leaving this enclosed plane alive. CGI is all you get in this life.

>>15472033
The numbers in Berger's 2014 tweet are pessimistic to Falcon Heavy's cost advantage compared to reality.

>>15472029
>damages rocket
>damages private property
>wastes hundreds of millions building a worthless launchpad and then wastes even more having to get it ripped out and build a real actual useful launchpad
oh and -$44billion on twitter.
oh yeh, he's a real genius.
a real life iron man you might say.

>>15472043
Whatever you say, Chang.

>>15472033
meanwhile in /sfg/:
>it was revealed to me in a dream
>I made it up
>works cited: crack_pipe.png
>"can I get a source for that?" "No."
>twitter screenshot @literalwho
>seemingly innocuous link, it's krystal porn
>pdf, also krystal porn
and yet still this general is somehow more reliable than the MSM

>>15472043
Elon Musk is a puppet of mil intelligence, the entities behind him have unlimited funds. One thing they can not do though is leave this flat and stationary plane we are living on.
I know some of you sciencegolems think he is designing rockets, running several companies, making cars and shitposting on twitter all day. He does none of that and I'd not be surprised if even his twitter posts are posted by somebody else.

https://youtu.be/eJK1gLHbOxA?t=1136
https://youtu.be/52dVfhgt_T4?t=694

>>15472053
Good grief, not even one new thread to get to "muh unlimited DoD money." Get help, Ivan.

>>15471353
We aren't supposed to go to space. Exploring space should be compared to other deviant activities like homosexuality, pedophilia or being transgender

>>15472046
>>15472055
Funny how elon shills always deflect to muh China/Russia

>>15472048
/sfg/s lucid visions are known to be the final word in all matters space flight and nasa has confirmed that

>>15471693
will it launch 20 times though? even 10 seems a bit optimistic to me
4.2 billion for an artemis mission (or just 2 bil per launch) is fucking insane even ignoring the suck amortized cost

>>15472046
except every single thing i said was real and true and correct.
you can dismiss what i said by calling me a non white but you cant dismiss the FACT that my entire comment was 100% true.

>https://officialnasagear.com/space-shuttle-playing-cards/
IF YOU LIKE TO GAMBLE
I TELL YOU, I'M YOUR MAN
YOU WIN SOME, LOSE SOME
IT'S ALL THE SAME TO ME

>>15472064
Literally nothing you said about the money was true.

>>15472057
Because it's always some hyper-nationalist retardation from Asian countries at this hour.

>>15471992
a helmet with a spine severing neck ring?
based

>>15472066
if they aren't 80s tiddies wearing half on spacesuits and posing around the shuttle im going to be annoyed

>>15472043
not wasted, they got valuable data to continue iterating
also, Musk didn't personally pay 44B, there was a consortium of other investors involved and leverage that twitter itself took (adding about 1b of debt service costs to twitter itself), but twitter is just about to be profitable now, even with that added 1 billy per year

>>15472072
> modern NASA being raunchy
SO I CALLED UP THE CAPTAIN
"PLEASE BRING ME MY WINE"
HE SAID, 'WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT SPIRIT HERE
SINCE 1969"

>>15472067
you cant prove that
also
>Literally nothing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acquisition_of_Twitter_by_Elon_Musk
huh, thats weird, seems like you just lied.
i cant say im surprised that a musk dick rider would just go on the internet and lie.
oh and this
>>15472078
is probably the biggest cope i have seen all year.

>>15472079
cor id describe her protuberances

>>15472081
not cope, its called iterative development and is how SpaceX developed the most reliable, cheapest and most succesful rocket system to date, the Falcon 9

also you keep being wrong about the acquisition and generally a retard so this is the last (you) I will give you

>>15472081
anon, look around you and understand where you are. We don't take kindly to teslaqs, sierra club, css, journos or (You). go back.

>>15472081
$46.5 billion after closing costs.
>Hundreds of millions for the pad
They've literally done nothing but bring out pile augers and small CAT bulldozers to redo the ground works and everything they've scraped out is rebar and concrete. It doesn't take receipts to trivially realize that you're an order of magnitude off of the right ballpark for the cost of the pad infrastructure that was damaged.
Furthermore, the exhaust plume appears to have created a clear-zone around the rocket. The systems failures on Booster 7 were probably due to various vibration induced hydraulic fluid distribution network and engine failures.

>>15472089
>i dont like you so you are bad thing(you just stick your hand in the box of all the things you dont like and call me whatever you pick out)
>>15472086
nice pivot, but it needs some work.
try addressing the topic seeing as you are not good enough at diversions yet :)
>>15472092
"blah blah blah i dont know how much they spent but you are wrong blah blah blah"
why even bother replying if you LITERALLY have nothing to say.

space elevators are gay af

>>15472109
not sure if this is the space elevator retard, might be though
kind of memoryholed the specifics of that one but this arguing style is a bit familiar

/sfg/ está vivo.

>>15472056
There is no outer space. We live on an enclosed flat and stationary plane. This whole general is a fraud perpetuated by shills and/or average science™ enjoyers.

>>15472109
They're fine for the Moon and Mars, its just hopelessly premature to go on about how we need them NOW

>>15472106
>"blah blah blah i dont know how much they spent but you are wrong blah blah blah"
He gave a reasonable range for the price, which showed yours was likely an order of magnitude over estimated, his reply is better than your posts in that regard

>>15472126
HAHHAHA who the fuck made this hahahahhahah

>>15472128
Good books
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hooded_Swan

>>15470913
>SSLLLSS

>>15471974
Fag /s

>>15472191
nice ass

>elon landed in beijing some hours ago
what's going on?

>>15472223
tesla factory need more slaves bing chilling

>>15472223
nevermind its for tesla
https://twitter.com/CGTNOfficial/status/1663495429420642304

>>15470691
most retarded OP image I've seen in a long while.

>>15472131
Literally just use mass drivers in both of those places.

>>15472043
You speak blasphemy but there is still time to repent.

statsfags

https://planet4589.org/space/astro/web/pop.html

>>15472233
shocking your reality ain't it? I downloaded it from lebbit.

>>15472227
>China welcoming their greatest competition in space and autos with open arms
>Biden cant even see him privately, let alone in public

NASA in Hebrew means _________

>>15472251
Weird comparison. How much has Musk feuded with Chicoms publicly on their politics then? Did he publicly chide Xi about lockdowns that hurt Tesla? No. He is a good boy in China because he knows he can get slapped hard there. The situation is fundamentally different.

>>15472293
OK dementia Biden cum suckler

>>15472043
I'm sorry, only first worlders are allowed here. You have the ability to comprehend scale and relative importance of any random thirdie.

>>15472233
thread was also made early, so retarded all around but for some reason people started posting here

first station-to-station transfer between the iss and chinese station when? is it even possible?

>>15472317
not without a dep*t

>>15472293
Elon Musk is a globohomo puppet.

https://youtu.be/eJK1gLHbOxA?t=1136
https://youtu.be/52dVfhgt_T4?t=694

>>15471104
They'll do fine as long as they copy the Soviet manned lunar lander

>>15472316
>>15472233
All these generals are now likely made by AI. The days of glowniggers making these threads manually are gone. All they have to do is assign one agent per board who will run several of these new AI chatbots to promote their propaganda in generals and other threads.

>>15471182
Sure, make sure to send life that has adapted to living in sulphuric acid

>Retard advertises on /pol/
>Tons of resident schizos move in
What a surprise....

>>15472353
I absolutely believe that advertising on /x/ would have been better than /pol/. I will never forgive collagefag for what he did.

We own this place

What's left before the next OFT? Launch pad repairs and static testing? The next Starship has the hydraulics completely replaced with electric motors, right?

Has any work started on whatever engine is replacing Raptor? Or will Raptor 2 just keep getting better over the next decade?

>>15472353
>>15472365
bros, please don't talk about the schizoposting
Schizoposters get called retarded faggots constantly but they keep posting. Why? Because they actually enjoy it.

Post about space flight instead and let the retards seethe and drool on themselves. They have nothing to add to meaningful discussion and are accustomed to replying to people who are angry about retards. Informative on-topic posts are their kryptonite.

>>15472375
>Informative on-topic posts are their kryptonite.
NOOOO STOPPP

>>15472375
>What's left before the next OFT?
idk i dont pay attention to shit like that anymore. just call me when the next launch is happening.

>>15472353
What if we take the retarded schizos
and put them in camps where they can build rockets

>>15472372
our plan was always to leave this place, dumb frogposter

Daily reminder a 5.0 GPA MIT engineer prefers the Space Launch System as NASA's primary rocket for Moon/Mars mission.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiera_Guinn_Fletcher

https://youtu.be/7j_cDYAfk1U

>>15472420
Next you'll tell us people working for JPL's rover division prefers robotic rovers over sending people.

>>15472375
>Informative on-topic posts are their kryptonite.
this desu

>>15472420
>literal whos like this have wikipedia articles but kpop idols with massive achievements and millions of fans get their articles deleted for lack of relevancy
the state of wikipedia

>>15472420
a diversity hire that works for a company involved with rocket, prefers rocket over another rocket
lmao,
oh she actually works directly *on* SLS, even more retarded

> After graduating from MIT, Fletcher took up a position at Boeing as a Structural Analysis Engineer.[8] She is one of the lead engineers and designers working on the Space Launch System for NASA which aims to put humans on Mars.

>>15472429
Pedos like you need a reality check

>>15472434
Stop being a racist chud

>>15472429
they are all interchangeable anyway
just pick one at random

>>15472441
so are "5.0 GPA MIT" engineers

Hop

>>15472429
Based wikipedia dabbing on bug people

>>15472447
nice mass margins bro

>>15472408
then you get wacky QA failures

>>15470875
(You) a faggot...

>>15472431

The point is she had her choice of jobs but choice Boeing/SLS. A 5.0 GPA mind thinks that has a greater chance of success than the death trap that is Starship.

>>15472048
>>seemingly innocuous link, it's krystal porn
Those don't even work anymore since Twitter requires a fucking login now to view lewd material. Not even Nitter bypasses it

>>15472449
>nice mass margins bro

>>15472454
>>15472447
>>15470875
Go to /c/ if you want to post off topic garbage.

>>15472451

>>15472456

>>15472458
anything i don't like is bait

>>15472458
if it was good bait it would have more bites

No wonder NASA accomplishes nothing and everything takes forever

Makes you think...

Falcon 9s 200th launch coming up

WHAT THE FUCK SKYLAB JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE

>>15472471
kangaroo mail sure is slow...

Yuropeens should all be thrown in the deorbiting ISS

Where are Elon's chopper gunships?

https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1663565499081572354

>>15472479
why did you link this?

>>15472482
no ULA at all? Im surprised

>>15472486
>planefags flying back in style

https://twitter.com/NASAWebb/status/1663564067544629259
what does this water mean

>>15472490
Ukraine shotdown a Russian drone

>>15472493
REAL answers only

>>15472482
Europe... has fallen

can the flat earth schizo recieve a permaban off of sci already?

>>15472420
cute girl

>>15472479
>ISS camera controller in Houston showing off on the zoom here!
Literally doesnt zoom at all the entire video, only changes focus. Is NSF staffed by retards?

>>15472503
is that a rhetorical question?

>>15472487
only two more Delta Heavy left (one in June)
only a few more Atlas V, thanks to the sanctions against their Russian engines
and of course no engines, no Vulcan. Jeff?

Also shows China's ascendance over Russia over the last decade

>>15472514
Vulcan has engines tho

i HATE oldspace

>>15472533
whyy

>>15472535
Kys Vulcanigger

good morning urf

>>15472540
haha he forgot he wasnt on a movie set anymore

>>15472490
It probably means Enceladus is undergoing extreme tidal stress from Saturn.

>>15472497
>Le jew face
Back to /pol/ with you

https://twitter.com/itsmoislam/status/1663553871657193472

>>15472431
>She is one of the lead engineers and designers working on the Space Launch System
No wonder it's a piece of shit!

>>15472500
Where? Is she behind the gross thing in the center of the photo?

>Starship's failure rate is 100%
It's over.

there is hope: vulcan will never fail

>>15472629
because it will never launch

>people unironically think oldspace will succeed
ITS OVER!!

>there are more Chinese in space than Americans

Its OVER

>>15472670
what's oldspace?

The earth is flat and stationary with a dome. This general is a fraud in all aspects perpetuated by glowniggers, AIchatbots and the average science™ enjoyers

>>15472689
China is extremely strong

The earth is a dome with a flat sky. On the underside of this dome earth; another dome. There is another hidden earth on the other side of the dome, they call this the "southern hemisphere". They hide it from us because of the wild and dangerous creatures that inhabit the underworld, such as emus, or the concealed society known as "Australians". Some say these are the same thing, others claim they are at war with each other

>>15472670
>>15472482
Old space is dead lol

Do flat earthers think other planets are flat too?

>>15472721
SLS is hoovering up all of NASAs budget
old space is not dead yet, they are still holding on for dear life, squeezing the last out of the industry they can

>>15472689
Yeah but they're chinese so there's still less of them.

>>15472734
SLS will die when Congress finds out China has a sustainable, yearly moon colony plan by 2027. SLS with its $4.2B launch once every 2-1.5 years cannot keep up with cost/time needed to launch.

How hard would it be to remake some older rockets as groups and sell them as cheap alternatives. For example use the proton m as a basis. They aren't that heavy 44-50 tons empty mass which isn't that much. Maybe use some newer materials digital guiding system and some newer production techniques like sls printing for the engine. It should be possible to make a rocket under 10millions i would say.

How likely chinese will actually try to test pregnancy in space?

>>15472719
come on! you expect us to believe that bullshit?
(everyone knows it's turtles all the way down...)

>>15472746
hahah this is why I come here

>>15472746
Call me retarded but aren't fetuses in zero g anyway, they're just floating around in there in water. But I guess their development could be affected by abnormal blood circulation or something

>>15472754
>>15472746
It would be awesome if they setup a human pregnancy test. Its better to test it in a controlled fashion rather than an accidental one through private space tourists.

https://twitter.com/SLIM_JAXA
https://www.isas.jaxa.jp/home/slim/SLIM/technology.html
>SLIM will be equipped with a small probe, LEV-1, which will operate independently on the Moon's surface. We have solved this problem by designing the shape of the pad that kicks the ground. There are many other technologies packed into these two small robots!

Cute hopper!

>>15472756
As long as someone leaks the footage I'm cool with it.

>>15472760
This seems cool but really sketchy, how many landings will it survive shredding itself into sharp and sticky moon sand

What happened with all the plans for a moon base?

There used to be so much talk about it but now there's nothing.

>>15472727
other planets don't exist, they are simply pretty lights placed by God for our entertainment

>>15472782
there are detailed plans, but nobody acted on them because the faggots at NASA and in congress decided that instead of letting private corporations build the rockets, that they'd have NASA build Shittle.

>>15472760
Lunar leaper bros...

>>15472782
USA lost interest. I think it will end up like in the show space force where china has regular rockets going there and a fully built station while the USA is putting some cheap ass tent with moon rock protection here.

>>15472792
Damn, just imagine what could have been.

BREAKING: "The US has mandated that there must always be atleast one person of color on the ISS at all times to adhear to the Biden administrations increased focus on diversity. This comes in a new bill that achieved a 71-29 vote in the Senate, and is slated to take effect on Feburary 30th, 2024."
Heres the REAL link: https://babylonbee.com/space/420/69/niggers-in-space/

>>15472875
Artemis 2 Backup Crew.jpeg

>>15472754
Floating and zero-g are two different things. The difference is whether your guts are floating in free-fall too.
Those "i-Fly" places that lift you up with a fuckhuge fan are floating, that's an extreme example of buoyancy, no different to your guts than standing on the floor. In skydiving you achieve true free-fall, and your guts are weightless too.

>>15472875
>babylonbee
At least you deleted it quickly.

>>15472907
I fucked up the green text for the breaking part, and I shoudlve done a different website. Its a fake link anyways, I copied it to redo it but people already saw it so why bother
>original
>BREAKING: "The US has mandated that there must always be atleast one person of color on the ISS at all times to adhear to the Biden administrations increased focus on diversity. This comes in a new bill that achieved a 71-29 vote in the Senate, and is slated to take effect on Feburary 30th, 2024."
>Heres the REAL link: https://babylonbee.com/space/420/69/niggers-in-space/
I shouldve chosen something else for the start like WaPo if I was gonna fake a link.

>>15472930
Notice Feburary 30th, REAL link, and babylonbee has a space section at all. Conservatards dont give two fucks about space, also
>niggers-in-space

another day where thundercuck is sperging about Elon for clicks.

>>15472316
>thread was also made early,
we need to make sure this never happens again.

>>15472500
explains a lot

>>15466968
>>15466968
>>15466968
New thread here. This one is unsalvageable.

>>15473004
>page 6

>>15472937
I wonder what he has to say about pic related. The chart is basically undeboonkable.

>>15472689
>not a single PoC
space is racist

>>15473011
>literal retard

>>15473027
>Calls everything racist if it isn't blacked
Why are people like this

>>15473027
More like (white adjacent)

>>15472782
The US decided to spend 2/3 of its federal budget on free shit for niggers and boomers instead of doing something productive with the money.

>>15472043
>damages rocket
Damage a rocket whose mission was to splash down hard and explode in the ocean?
>damages private property
Literally nothingburger
>wastes money on launchpad
The OLM design wasn't changed at all after the incident, only the pad under it got something added. Nothing was "replaced". What was built is still needed
>twitter
Will never be controlled by commie self-hating california cucks ever again. FeelsGoodMan

You are a very retarded poster

>>15471937
Boomer mind set carry over. From when it was assumed to be harder to dock than make a better rocket.

Sirens in South Korea, Japan urging citizens to seek shelter. I guess North Korea is doing the satellite launch now.

>>15473102
it's war we going to war kim jong un is bombing us

Did the nork rocket fail?

>>15473102
He wont do shit. The minute he does the US has good reason go carpet bomb them with nukes.

>>15473102
(I guess Fearless Leader doesn't believe in NOTAMs)
Any bets on whether it will successfully reach orbit?

>>15471937
Shelbyism. If multiple small rockets can do a mission you don't need big ones for launching anything but huge integrated payloads or refilling depots.

>>15473154
maybe, could also be just a stage, the nips only care about where the spent stage fall

>>15473102
>>15473158
>>15473154
Sounds like it didn't work out. But points to him for trying, rocketry is tough! #TeamSpace

>>15473045
also fighting commie peasants in a jungle

Spain joined the Artemis Accords today btw

>>15473185
Also, a Spanish new space company is having a maiden launch in a few hours?

https://www.spacelaunchschedule.com/launch/miura-1-sn1-test-flight/

>>15473171
and you also don't need spessplenns with half a dozen crew to launch a satellite

>>15473186
it will fail

>>15473183
at least it was pretty kino

>>15473186
Company is called PLD space, rocket is called Miura 1.

Here is the livestream

https://www.youtube.com/live/htb4TVnKLg4?feature=share

It’s launching from the south of Spain, is this the first rocket launch from the European mainland?

Nork rocket blew up

DEDICATED ORBITER PRIORITY LIST:
-Uranian System
-Neptunian System
-Callisto
-Any KBOs
DEDICATED LANDER PRIORITY LIST:
-Titan (AT THE LAKES FUCK YOU DRAGONFLY)
-Enceladus
-Ceres
-Europa
-Phobos/Deimos
-Venus (One that actually survives or floats in the clouds
-Any KBO
-Mercury (might as well ignore this)

>>15473220
>KBOs
Anything that has to slow down at the target would be slow as fuck. I'd rather have solar sail flybys that take 5 years or less to get there

>>15473238
>unironically praising solar sail memetech
Do you also believe that fusion energy will be viable within our life times? God I hate roddit so many of these baboon tourists come here and shit up every thread. Youre probably a spinqueer too arent you? Fucking ridiculous

>>15473244
Read nigger.
https://arxiv.org/abs/2303.14917

>>15473188
It made for a super neat interplanetary probe launcher though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXl4cS57PVw

>>15472449
>wacky QA failures
Then we ride into the danger zone.

china can only afford a flag and footprints mission to the moon. how will they turn it into a long term outpost?

>>15473295
By lying to their people about what they've done.

>>15473254
>arxiv.org

>>15473303
I get yelled at whenever I post this so thanks for doing it for me.

>>15473295
pretend their tiny apollo style lunar lander is a real moon station and have 2 dudes live in a tin can for months at a time with robotic resupply missions.
something the US could be doing today on FH/F9

>>15473197
Not in this class. Miura 1 is just a sounding rocket that they're using to test out the systems for the later Miura 5 SLV. There have been plenty of sounding rockets launched from continental Europe before, although most of the launch sites I know about are up in Scandinavia.

>>15473295
Long March 9. The LM-10 is fine for the initial prestige missions that let you scout out the area, but for a real lunar base you need a bigger rocket that can move a lot more mass for a lot less money. LM-9 and the reusable LM-10 versions fit that bill.

>>15473303
>doesn't check out the authors
They're substantial people, unlike you

>oh my god he's calling oh my god
https://archive.org/details/TomMuellerInterview2May2017

>>15473321
wrong image