/sci/ - Science & Math

>>15455083
We're outpacing the rate of CO2 accumulation seen in the Permian-Triassic extinction event. If you don't think that matters you don't know anything. When that inevitably sets off a positive feedback loop releasing sequestered CO2 all it's going to take for a similar mass extinction is bad luck. It's never exclusively about some single cause, it's about balance. The more you start to tip, the more likely smaller and smaller events are to make you fall. Same goes for the P-T extinction event, and similar.

Obviously it's a problem now and a problem with us because we're the ones causing it. For the P-T event it took numerous simultaneous bad luck events for that to occur, same for rapid sulfur dioxide accumulation and precipitious increase then plummeting of global temperature killing off everything. If we're stupid enough we'll manage that all on our own.

>>15455119
>We're outpacing the rate of CO2 accumulation seen in the Permian-Triassic extinction event.
completely false, the siberian traps mantle plume eruption was adding over 100ppm annually, we are adding less than 3, furthermore the volcanic event blotted out the sun, preventing the co2 from being converted to organic matter, in our current situation the co2 is leading to an increase in organic matter.
please stop spinning your ridiculous chicken little stories on the science board

>>15455185
>completely false, the siberian traps mantle plume eruption was adding over 100ppm annually
source?

>>15455185
>completely false
I've no idea where you get your figures, but the latest Nature publication was 2507 +4764/−1193ppmv in 75kyr. We're definitely exceeding that rate by a lot https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-
22298-7
>furthermore the volcanic event blotted out the sun
Almost like what I briefly wrote about the balancing act is completely true and you're proving my point.
>please stop spinning your ridiculous chicken little stories on the science board
lol sorry kid better luck spinning your bullshit next time

>>15455119
> we
shill. bullshit.

>>15455192
> http
> .com
misinformation. fuck your fucking government.

>>15455192
Ohhh, owned.

>it used to be warmer than now
Yes.
https://xkcd.com/1732/

>>15455507
>le reddit hockey stick graph

>>15456089
>HACKED GLOBAL WARMING EMAIL
yeah you shouldn't really complain about unprofessional sources

>>15456506
He didn't

>>15456522
faking data is unprofessional for a scientist, but for a sºyentist its a routine, mandatory part of the profession.
global warming is sºyence, not science

>>15457234
this

I wish the captcha for /sci/ required solving some kind of randomized undergrad level integral. 99% of retards like >>15457234 >>15458597 would be filtered because they'd probably be too stupid to even type it in to wolfram alpha properly.

>>15458626
what does that have to do with the thread topic?

>>15458626
> I
shill, typical

>>15458626
>I want to censor everyone who I disagree with because I am unable to convince them via honest means
maybe you're opinions are wrong, you'd be more convincing if they weren't

>>15455083
There is no such thing as a sardonic frown.
The term "sardonic grin" comes from the practice in Phoenician Sardinia of disposing of criminals and old people using Hemlock Water Dropwort. The poison acts by constricting the muscles causing death by asphixia which also causes a rictus like death grin AKA the sardonic grin.

>>15458626
True, sci has gone to absolute shit in the past few years with all of the retards spamming their boomer tier Facebook theories
It seems like social media has made people in general way more fucking retarded lately

>>15461939
samefag shill. scared of uids huh?

>>15455192
> the latest Nature publication
Lol, Nature hasn't been a science magazine for years. It literally publishes political garbage that the authors and editors themselves don't even believe.

>>15461953
lol can't argue the facts just deny deflect discredit, forgetting how effortless it is to point out you've conceded you can't argue the evidence. You really think that tricks anybody?

>>15461973
> word salad
shill, only retards trust government

>>15461973
I'm not the other poster and I couldn't care less which one of you wins the vapid argument you're having. I'm only here to shit on the hollowed-out corpses of erstwhile science journals like Nature, Sci. Am., et al., that literally publish political garbage they don't believe.

>>15455083
I don't think things projected to happen by climate alarms are bad. He's some notes I drew up a while ago, give me reasons why they require us to surrender our freedom to the state:

Decline in fruit-bearing trees in Sahel - its a desert?
Malaria increases in Kenyan highlands – population increase, building near swamps?
More vulnerable livelihood trajectories for indigenous Aymara farmers in Bolivia, due to water shortage – run by socalists, expect corruption
Increase in agricultural yields and expansion of agricultural areas in southeastern South America – more food = disaster?
Impacts on livelihoods of indigenous groups in the Canadian Arctic – next to no one on earth is apart of this group (IPCC says: “Warming; change in snow cover; change in sea ice” / they claim a ‘change in ice’, so its not decreasing or they’d say so right?)
Impact on livelihoods of Arctic indigenous peoples - to no one on earth is apart of this group (IPCC says: “Warming; change in snow cover; change in sea ice” / they claim a ‘change in ice’, so its not decreasing or they’d say so right?)
ncrease of shipping traffi c across the Bering Strait – “major change” understandable, but: “No change” under where a other potential factor affecting it ‘reference change’ should be. WHAT ABOUT MODERN ICEBREAKERS? No ice breakers in the 1850s besides sail powered, certainly nothing on our modern scale. Still fair enough bout less (?) ice
Increased degradation of coastal fi sheries due to direct effects and effects of increased coral reef bleaching – Due to the climate causing bleeching right? NOPE!(IPCC: Role of climate= Minor ) ha! And (IPCC: Coastal fisheries degraded by overfishing and pollution) huh, so bleaching CAN be caused by POLLUTION? Funny how they always use reefs as a star in the climate crisis...

>>15462028

Aside; a lot of “increases” in food production with “Major” climate cause... funny that

Minors:
Reduced fi sheries productivity of Great Lakes and Lake Kariba – “Minor”
Stagnation of wheat yields in some countries in recent decades – “Minor”
Positive yield impacts for some crops, mainly in northern Europe – “Minor”
Negative impacts on aggregate wheat yields in South Asia – “Minor”
Negative impacts on aggregate wheat and maize yields in China – “Minor”
Increased degradation of coastal fisheries due to direct effects and effects of increased coral reef bleaching – “Minor”

Majors:
Advance timing of wine-grape maturation in recent decades – “Major”
Increase in agricultural yields and expansion of agricultural areas in southeastern South America – “Major”
For the other table above :
Increase in coral bleaching in the Great Barrier Reef and Western Australian Reefs - Pollution; physical disturbance huh

>>15462031
Another thing I find strange about focusing on fossil fuels as the predictor of our doom, is that the carbon source for those fuels originated from the atmosphere.

See this graph, assuming it is roughly accurate, we can see that ppm CO2 was an order of magnitude higher than today. Presumably we could burn ALL fossil fuel reserves, and our climate would at worst return to what it was in those archaic times.

Of course, that might kill a bunch of fancy tree frogs, but humans are unbelievably adaptable.

>>15462028
> Malaria
old globohomo hoax, extremely stupid

>>15462035
Whoops, graph is here.

>>15462037
What i'm saying there, is that the increase in malaria cases will not be a result of the climate changing, but as a result of the increased population of those countries where malaria is found.

In much the same way the UK is building on its forests, Uganda might be building on it's swamps.

>>15462044
yes, more population, more colds

>>15462031
Oh, for clarification on what i'm commenting on, it's the IPCC AR5 report, pages 1008-1010

https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar5/wg1/full-report/

>>15462031
>Increase in coral bleaching in the Great Barrier Reef and Western Australian Reefs
fake news, great barrier reed coral is currently growing more rapidly than it has ever been recored in the past
https://e360.yale.edu/digest/great-barrier-reef-coral-cover-2022-record
>Great Barrier Reef See Most Extensive Coral Cover In 36 Years
>In the northern and central stretches of the Great Barrier Reef, scientists have recorded the most extensive coral cover seen in 36 years of study, according to a new report from the Australian Institute of Marine Science (AIMS).

Researchers tracked hard coral across 87 reefs along the coast of Queensland from August 2021 to May 2022, finding that coral cover reached 36 percent in the northern third of the reef and 33 percent in the central third, up from 27 percent and 26 percent, respectively, the prior year.

>>15463409
Yep, i'm sure that's the case. I'm simply commenting on what the IPCC claims will happen.
>Increased degradation of coastal fisheries due to direct effects and effects of increased coral reef bleaching – “Minor”
They believe that a) coral reefs will bleach in the future, however they b) factor that climate change contributes to that will be "minor"

If you read the AR5 report pages 1008-1010, you will see that they actaully admit that climate change will have many "minor" negative affects, but will have many "major" positive affects like increased crop yields in south america.

>>15462195
>www.ipcc.ch
political shills, ipcc is a branch of the un, its not a scientific organization

>>15455083
Do you think it's good to pump toxic gas into the atmosphere? Why is it a bad thing to request corporations and car manufacturers produce less toxic gas in the atmosphere? What is the downside?

>>15464736
even here you smell like shill

>>15464769
Think for yourself, sheep. You can't come up with any arguments against it.

>>15464792
shill confirmed.

>>15464847
Sub-70 IQ sheep confirmed.

>>15464857
> iq
lol, nobody cares about Iq but total retards

>>15455119
>We
Its mostly US and china though.

>>15455185
>ridiculous chicken little stories
THE SKY IS FALLING!!!
THE SKY IS FALLING!!!
chicken and all her friends little get eaten by the fox at the end of that story

>>15464925
then fox is hunted by humans.

>>15465506
shill, if those frogs survived in that pot for millions of years, really nothing to worry about.

>boomers pumping shit into the air = good
why are climate deniers so retarded

>>15465582
> climate denier
are you sin denier, shill?

>>15465661
dilate

>people all over the world have dedicated entire lives to studying the climate
>but I know more then they do because I saw some graphs on Facebook
What makes someone like this? I don’t get it at all. I studied this in undergraduate a bit and it seemed pretty clear to me it’s happening. That was months of studying and I just scratched the surface. Why do these retards think they know anything? Not to mention every single denier source I’ve looked into is a complete joke. It’s nearly a moot point anyway, it’s too late.

>>15465669
>properly accredited and credentialed individuals (this matters a lot to some people i.e you) with years of experience in the field study and research climate science
>quote them
>noooooo you're just posting facebook takes! i arbitrarily dismiss any contrary information
:S

>>15465668
are you questions denier, shill?

>>15465683
The "credentialed individuals" are the ones who keep on getting caught producing lies and fake data to justify their gibes. I don't know anything about Facebook, so I can't comment on that other than to say that people who look at Facebook clearly don't belong on 4chan

>>15455083
the climate has always been changing

>>15465903
I don't see how anyone in their right mind could place their trust in the "credentialed individuals" who are in the midst of causing the replication crisis

>>15467670
savior complex types are not rational thinkers, they are mentally ill

>>15455083
>tiniest amount of resources
breh look around you and try to find SOMETHING made with zero plastic. zero dino juice. fuck the oil part, just look at the plastic. Plastic is just an oil company trash chemical that they convinced everyone else to BUY and use.

does it look like it was a "little bit of resources"?

>>15469272
>reeeee!! I hate plastic
typed on a plastic keyboard or on the screen of a plastic phone

>>15470021
unironically I do hate plastic.

>>15465669
>muh replication crisis soience is totally real guise!!!!
>you've got to believe me!!!
>muh article was published in a journal that has hundreds of retractions annually
>that means its true
>reeeeeeeeee!!!

>>15469240
>they are mentally ill
dangerously so, they're mentally ill in the same way serial killers are

>>15456506
>unprofessional sources
scientists who refuse to follow the scientific method are unprofessional, data manipulation and telling end of the world fairy tales are unprofessional

>>15470021

>>15473652
lol

>>15464736
CO2 isn't a "toxic gas", CO2 is an absolute necessity for the survival of life on Earth, its as important as Oxygen

>>15469240
this, the global warming meme plays into the fantasy life of the savior complex crowd like nothing else

>>15477263
Climate equity for equator folvks who burn mountains of trash

>>15477269
the civilized world has been donating fortunes of money to them since ages ago, somehow or other, they are still poor

>>15478234
How can Africans afford to double their population every 25 years if they're poor? I thought raising children was super expensive

>>15479011
raising educated children or retards? think again.

>>15479106
many africans are smarter than the average westerner

>>15480131
shill, at least try to pretend being scientific

>>15480184
Africans are smart enough to know that faggotry is idiotic and toxic, does it upset you that Africans are smarter than you are, faggot?

>>15480789
shill confirmed. migrate to Africa! save your virgin butt!

>>15465903
>people who look at Facebook clearly don't belong on 4chan
this